Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - "You Only Get Engaged Twice" with Janet Elizabeth

Episode Date: October 15, 2021

Scheana is joined by co-host Janet Elizabeth and they’re spilling the tea. Scheana talks about her recent trip to New York City and her appearance on Watch What Happens Live! She opens up about why she felt different on this trip and why she just didn’t feel like herself. They also discuss the most recent episode of Vanderpump Rules and what made it a hard episode to watch. Follow us: @scheananigans @scheana @janetelizabethxSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans, and now here's your host, Sheena Shea. And back in LA, getting into some shenanigans with Miss Janet Elizabeth. Hi. Welcome back. I'm so happy to be back. We didn't get enough done last time. No, I felt like it was going to be like a part two, three, four, you know, like we'll just make this a thing again.

I think I'm back. Yeah, she's back. So, and I'm back from New York. I just got back today. I'm absolutely exhausted. You looked so good on Watch What Happens Live. Thanks. I loved your outfit.

I came with yours last night. You had a really good tan. Did you get a spray tan in New York? No. So I just got, oh my God, I don't even know what it is. It's in my bag. This new product. I stopped by a PR agency called Alison Broad, Broad, B-R-O-D, however you say that, Alison Broad, whatever. And they hooked me and my sister up with so many different cosmetic brands. So you do that yourself? They had emailed me. But like you rubbed that on yourself? Oh, no.

My sister did it for me. Oh, but still like it's like an at-home product. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's not like a spray tan. Yeah, she just sprayed it and then put it on my legs for like a shimmer. It looked really good. Yeah. I got so many amazing products from like Charlotte Tilbury, Makeup by Mario.

It looked good. Yeah, it was like awesome. I loved it. You guys like dove into it. We need to like get in to watch what happens live. Yeah. Okay, this was the first time like I actually felt nervous. And I haven't felt that way in a while.

But I just didn't feel like myself on this trip like it was my first time away from summer I know I kept seeing like all of your facetimes and everything and I was like oh like I just felt so off I cried a few times it just like I knew she was in obviously the best hands like she was with Brock my mom was here to help during the day, you know, the employee. We need to get into that. Oh, my God. I have some thoughts about this. There's so much to get into. Where do we begin? Can I start with a fun, happy story? Oh, yeah. You're engaged. I got engaged. You weren't engaged when you were here last time. Yeah. Like Brett Kenyon said it, you only get engaged twice. Yes. If you're us. Jason and and i got engaged like three almost three

or no three weeks ago it was after you got back from paris because we were thinking it would maybe happen in paris no jason told me before we left he was like enjoy the vacation don't have your hopes up i don't want you to be disappointed if it doesn't happen there so when we got back he also lied to me and i learned that he's a really good liar, which now I'm on to him for. I'm like, oh, you fooled me good. Like now I know if you need to lie about something, you might get away with it. But he told me when we got back, he was like, we went and looked at rings together and had one made. And he was like, you know, your ring, because we had it made, is going to take another couple of weeks. So like, don't expect it like anytime soon. So I was thinking like Halloween weekend or like sometime around then. And then

we were in Paris for like two weeks. So we got back, we were waking up at like 5am every day. Like I would go to check my phone. I'd be like, play Candy Crush, check all my like Instagram, like all my apps. And then I would be bored and I would look and I'd see Jason looking at his phone and I'd be like, are you up? I'm so bored. Like, please talk to me. And he'd be like, we really need to sleep in. We really need to like sleep until like at least six. Like it's like four or five in the morning. Like we're waking up way too early and then falling asleep like at dinner.

So he was like, no, we can't be waking up this early. And like Thursday before the weekend we got engaged, he was like, there's this, oh my God, I'm also learning that I don't say the word bagel correctly bagel bagel it's a bagel yeah bagel okay everyone every time i tell this engagement story everyone focuses on the fact that i say bagel weird yeah it's bagel bagel yeah okay bagel whatever so he was like on thursday he was like since we've been waking up so early there's this place called hank's bagels however the fuck you say it that we love but they sell out of like the good ones pretty early so you have to get there like first thing in the morning and thursday he was like oh since we've been waking up so early on saturday i'll go get us breakfast and i'll bring it home and i was like yes perfect he's like i'll get there when it opens. So Saturday he woke up. We woke up at like 5.45.

And he was like, I'm going to go get breakfast like as soon as it opens. I keep saying breakfast because I'm literally insecure about the way I say bagels now. So he's like, I'm going to go get us breakfast. And normally I would just let him go and I would like lay in bed. And because I was so wide awake and he was leaving at like 7, I'd been up for like an hour. I was like, oh, I'll come with you. And he was like, no, you relax in bed. Like have a, have a great time. And I was like, Oh, okay. And also I was, I sleep topless. I just sleep in like my granny panties. Yeah. Oh, I miss being able to sleep topless. Now I just leak. Oh,

like my whole pregnancy. I just slept naked. Yeah. And I would always like post photos in the morning of like Salem on my head. And one of my friends messaged me. She's like, okay, can I ask like, do you just not sleep in clothes? Yeah. It's the most comfortable way. No, I don't. Granny panties, nothing else.

Yeah. But now I have to. Now you wake up with ink spots everywhere. So right before he left, he like gave me his t-shirt, which I love sleeping in his or like wearing his shirts after he does because they smell like him. And I was like, oh, that's cute. Now I realize it's because he knew when he came back, someone was going to be filming and I couldn't have my nipples out. So he gave me his T-shirt and he left to go get breakfast and he came back and he came in the room and was like, like brought the breakfast to bed.

And he was like, Janet, like, I love you. And was being sweet. And I'm like on my phone, I'm like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Cool. Give me the bagel. And I was like, kind of like looking up at him and I was like, I'm not going to eat this in bed. I'm going to get seeds everywhere. Like I order an everything bagel. Like it's, I'm not gonna. And then he's like being really sweet. And I'm like, why are you being nice to me right now? I was like, are you trying to have sex? Like what's, why are you being so sweet? And then he starts saying all this stuff. And then I see Courtney Berman, our friend, right outside of our bedroom door filming. And I told Jason, I was like, I want our engagement like on our proposal, like on film so that we can show our babies.

Right. And so when I saw her filming, I realized what was happening. I like put my phone away and I looked at him. He's saying all this sweet stuff. And I'm like, oh, he's. Oh, it's happening right now. It's was happening. I like put my phone away and I looked at him and he's saying all this sweet stuff. And I'm like, oh, he's proposing. Oh, it's happening right now. It's all happening. And so he like got down on one knee next to our bed and proposed to me in bed. And then Kristen and our friend Allie and a few other people were like outside with champagne. And he proposed. I said yes. And we all like drank in our PJs all day and like had champagne all day and just lounged around, which was like so fun. And I got to FaceTime everybody, including you

and like show everybody. I was like, oh, the nails. Oh, I had like ratchet, ratchet nails. Oh yeah. The only way he could surprise me, I'm on top of everything. If he's not home, if he says I'll be home at six 30, it's six 33'm like where are you did you die in a car accident what's happening is there traffic what's going on and so when he managed to propose and surprise me by doing it it's because he got me unbrushed teeth unbrushed hair no makeup on nails looking ratchet but he did it he surprised me and it was and the ring is gorgeous thanks I love it I love it I love it. I love it. I love it so much. Now we're both going through our stages together.

We got divorced together. Now we're engaged. We were single girls together. The single phase, that was, it was a fun time. We got it out of our systems. We did. And I felt like I kind of needed that again. Like I needed that second adult time of being single.

Totally. Now you just have to, I want to get pregnant like next year. It's time for summer number two. No, no, you can have one like for her to play with, but I don't know. I might be a one and done. What? I don't know. Well, we've talked about this. She's so good that you'll never get as a baby. Yeah. I won't have a better pregnancy. I won't have a better baby. I get that. But I feel like what if you also get two of her? But like, what if I have twins next time? I don't know that. I don't know. I just know. Fast forward to a year, it's gonna be me and Gina on here being like, we're both pregnant. I've heard that like when the baby's like around like two, that that's when like you start to think, oh, we this again baby phase yeah but see here's the thing is like i've never been the person who's like obsessed with babies even now i'm obsessed with her yeah but even with like most of my friends they want to hold her but i'm like does that mean i have to hold yours like i don't want to trade i

just i do like Ocean they're like so similar in like size and everything so like whenever I'm around I'm like can I hold her for just a second cause I just like want to feel another baby that's like her size but all the bigger ones and then all the younger ones I'm sorry I don't have the back to do

I don't know how Brittany does it Cruz is literally I can't believe that he's like around the same age they're two weeks apart to the day, so this weekend we were at Kristen's. She just sold her house and had like a going away party and all four babies were there, which was amazing. I was like, literally give me that baby. Give me this baby. Like holding all of them. It was so cute to see all of them together. Oh yeah. They left right before you got there. And then we just saw Cruise. They were going to run to leave too. Because I got there late.

We were in Palm Springs. Yeah, but I got to see all four babies that day. And it was a smush fest and the best time ever. It made me, my baby fever is through the roof now. It was so cute. See, and that's the thing. Like with me, I'm not, like when people are like, oh my God, like I miss like the newborn phase. And like they say like every stage is your favorite.

And that's so true because now I'm like, she can hold her head up. Like, she smiles. She rolls over. Like, she's so much more responsive and whatnot. Like, it's so fun. But I'm like, I actually don't miss when I was so terrified and had to, like, support her head. Like, yes, I loved how tiny she was. But it's like, now I just feel so much more comfortable and confident with her in the beginning the show

fucking terrified yeah you look i mean i had a dream her head fell off oh my god that's it was terrifying when i was pregnant i woke up and i was like i put it back on but like it was terrifying so now when you look back at the show because she was what a month old no two weeks oh when okay so now when you look back at that you're just happy that you don't have this scary feeling of like something might happen oh i love she was just so tiny when i look back and like i love that we have these moments documented on the show on youtube because she was so itty bitty but it doesn't make me want another totally what's seeing i'm just so obsessed with her now seeing her in real life and then seeing the show air and seeing brock hold her at the show i'm like she literally looks like a beanie baby okay so funny story so when we were at that play date so they have to have a baby nurse and

a baby teacher on set the whole time and the baby nurse she actually is a friend of courtney they went to like high school i met her at the premiere yeah so she actually is a friend of Courtney Berman's. They went to high school together. I met her at the premiere. Yeah. So she was watching the screen because they have to just make sure at all times eyes on baby. Yeah. So she's watching it and my parents were also there because they had to take her back home after.

And my mom said Natasha's face was just like, he can't do that. She didn't realize that Brock's missing a finger and a half she thought that he was strangling her when he was burping her and so after the scene like i didn't know this was going on she comes up to brock and she goes okay your index finger like you can't put it on her throat and he goes i don't have that finger i actually heard this story from her at the premiere night she was was showing when that aired.

She was freaking out. She was like, I felt so bad. I didn't know Brock didn't have a finger. I was like, yeah, he lost it to a crocodile, which I thought was a made-up story until I was over here recently. And I was like, I didn't want to ask. It's like one of those things you probably shouldn't ask about, but I think I had a little bit of wine, and I was like, Brock,

what happened to that finger? Yes, of him with his little pants. I can't believe that. Poor little baby. And his dad shot the crocodile nuts. Yeah. That is the most Australian shit I've ever heard. That is the most Australian thing I've ever heard. I remember after like I met him and he had told Max this story. The next day I had interviews for like last season and my producer was like, wait, so this guy you're dating like wrestled an alligator? And I was like, no, it was a crocodile. I was like, wait, what? I was like, he didn't wrestle.

Did you realize at first when you first met him that he was missing a finger or did he have to say something first? No, I had sex with him and didn't realize it. And it's so funny because I remember that day when we were in bed and I was like holding his hand. And my hand was like this to where like my ring finger and my pinky were touching. And I was like, oh, that's weird. I think I did my hand wrong. And then I was like, wait, my pinky and my thumb are on the outside.

But I was like, oh, my gosh. I just wasn't thinking. I just thought I was like holding his hand wrong. Didn't think anything of it. We've like been at a festival together we've hung out several times we've played pool I did not notice at all and so we're driving to a dispensary on our way back to LA from San Diego after like we just had sex for hours that first time. And he was like, oh, yeah, by the way, he's like, crocodile. And I'm driving. He pulls out his hand, and I was like, what the fuck?

I was like, oh, my God. Get this. So I'm just going to tell you the real story. So when we were in Australia. My face is, I'm in shock right now. This is now six weeks later. We're in Australia. We'm in shock right now. We're, this is now six weeks later, we're in Australia, we're at the zoo and we were getting like a private tour and we like got to like go and hug koalas. It was fucking awesome. Feed kangaroos. Yeah. So we did that and he adopted me a koala

having no idea I had already adopted someone, a penguin. So then the tour guide was like, would you like to go to the crocodile exhibit? And I was like, I don't think so. Touchy subject. And he was like, whoa, why not?

And I was like, I don't know, like sore subject, you know? And he's like, what? And I'm like, you're an idiot. You know, like, I don't want to like

bring it up in front of the tour guide, but like, you probably don't want to go to the crocodiles. And he goes, I didn't tell you that was a joke.

But it was, it was serious when he was four, right? It was when he was four, but it wasn't a crocodile. He didn't wrestle. Oh, okay. No. What's the Adam Sandler movie where the guy loses a hand, his golf coach? Happy Gilmore. Oh, yeah, yeah.

That he loses it to an alligator alligator and every time he sees one, he gets really spooked and scary. So I can understand why maybe bringing Brock to a crocodile pit is not the best idea. No, that's actually not what really happened. I know he did explain it on the show this season. Whether or not you'll see that scene,

I don't know. They better show that. But he tells the real story. It was like a mechanical gate that his hand got crushed in. He fucking told me it was a crocodile. I know. I'm telling you.

He told me it was a crocodile. He sat me down and told me. And I was so into this story. When he was a kid. I'm going outside of this room immediately after this and I'm yelling at him. When he was a kid, he got bullied really bad. So his mom and dad made up that story for him to tell the kids at school so yeah i know so then it just it kind of stuck with him but he forgot

that he told me that and didn't tell me he was joking so for six weeks max and i are telling everyone like we can't see the crocodile this is the most australian story ever like you fucking wrestled a crocodile like Like, this is nuts. I can't believe it was a game. Now I'm upset. Yeah, so. I'm just going to tell people it was a crocodile. I, like, went home that night, and I was like, Jason, you're not going to believe this.

I've told people that story, and most people believe it. Some people are like, there's no fucking way. But he tells it so convincingly. He's like, and then it rolled to the left. And so, yeah. But, no, it wasn't. And I know that will come out eventually. I think he even explained it either on this podcast or on a vlog.

I think we've talked about the real story. I'm going with the real story. I can't tell Jason it wasn't a crocodile. No, no, don't. He'll be so disappointed. Yeah, I know. He's like so impressed with Max's golf game. To this day, I don't think I ever told Max that it wasn't a crocodile.

I think he still thinks that. Jason's like his golf game for like, he he's like you'd think like maybe missing a finger and a half would be like would fuck up your golf game but brock's really good at golf so i can't tell jason that it was a gate yeah it'll destroy no no everything don't tell him so yeah that's uh the story of brock okay wait i want to hear how new york was okay i want to talk about this episode. Yeah. And how Watch What Happens Live was.

Because I feel like it was, I feel like this episode of any one that I've seen you go through over the years was probably one of the toughest to see. I only watched it once when they sent it to us last week. And then I couldn't watch it again. I can understand why. Yeah. It seemed like a lot. And it's only going to get worse before it gets better.

Because you and Lala have made amends now. Yeah. We all saw each other over the weekend, and you guys seemed totally fine, and it seems like you guys have been a lot better. But in interviews, you guys both had words for each other that I was like, ooh. Yeah. I was like, did they watch this before they saw each other this weekend? Because this is tough.

Yeah. I mean, I know you guys did, but I'm like, I don't know how you guys do this shit. No, we talk after each episode. Yeah. It was a lot. I mean, the stuff with, I mean, okay, so I know Brock, and I've seen him as Summer's dad over here a million times. And that's how I know him.

So, like, his past, like like at first when I met him and then when you and I had a falling out I was like oh I don't know about this guy like I had the same questions I feel like everybody else did seeing the show yeah now I see how he is and I'm like I take notes Jason I'm like this is how like a dad is supposed to be and all that but I get seeing the bits that people did on the show why why people were, like, up in arms about him, why they, like, responded to the poll on Watch What Happens Live, saying, like... Yeah, and obviously when you know this is all you're seeing, you know, that you haven't watched my YouTube,

you haven't listened to us on the podcast, you haven't really known our relationship for the past two years we've been together, I completely understand when people are like, oh, my God, red flag, run. But I'm like, just keep watching. That's all I'm going to say. It's a long season. We've got a lot more episodes. Keep watching.

Yeah. But watch what happens live. So, so much fun. Yeah. Your sister went with you to New York? Yeah. And so she's never gone with me before because when she turned 21, she was already working full time. Oh. She couldn't go to the clubhouse until

she was 21. I just wouldn't have taken her to New York, you know, before she was 21. It's like just going out and stuff. Right. So she never went with me before she was 21. That shocks me. And then she's worked full time. I know. So we're there with my gay friend, Devin. Yeah. And they've hung out several times, even like in New York when she's been there without me, they've hung out. And he was like, I just can't believe you've never been here I'm like I know like it was so much fun so I absolutely love Shangela oh yeah I knew fucking queen when we were there all of her answers were amazing to everything yeah do you know if she was the Beyonce at Pride 2020 in the streets of West Hollywood probably feel like it was her and I saw that show and I'm it was like amazing but I'm 99% sure it was her

yeah she's amazing um I remember when we were over here like two weeks ago when Ariana was over here when you found out who was going to be on Watch What Happens Live with you you said it and you were like oh my gosh and Ariana literally fully fangirled out. I know. I didn't want to tell her because I know she's such a big fan of that show. She was like, you're so lucky. Oh my God. I know.

It was so much fun. And then, so get this. When we were talking before the show, I was like, oh, I was like, yeah, we have a bunch of mutual friends I saw on Instagram. And she was like, who? I started naming someone. I was like, Chester. And she was like, wait.

She goes, how do you know Chester? I was like, I did a show with him in Vegas. She goes, I saw that show. And then she was like, who? I started naming someone. I was like, Chester. And she was like, wait. She goes, how do you know Chester? I was like, I did a show with him in Vegas. She goes, I saw that show. And then she was like, wait, that was you? She came to the show? She came to my show. Oh my gosh, that's wild. Yeah.

That's funny. Yeah, so I was just like, oh my God, small world. That's funny. She was awesome. So it was so much fun. Did you feel like Andy grilled you at all? Did you feel under pressure? Because I watched it and then Jason popped in at the end of the day when I was watching it.

And he was like, wow, she's holding her own pretty well, but this is tough. It was everything I expected. I expected all of those questions verbatim. Even Ariana texted me because I think she was looking at the tweets when he says tweet any questions. She was like, be prepared for them to ask this, this. And I was like, and then they did. So I think it was, which one did she text me about? About, like, maybe not holding Brock accountable, but, like, going off on Lala.

And I was like, you wouldn't have wanted to be in the house with Brock and I that night in Palm Springs. I'm sure. I think he was afraid. He should have been. It was not good. I think it's good you held him accountable and owned up to that because people have this perception of you and maybe it's been true in the past that you've like glazed over or made excuses for the people you've been with.

Yeah, see and he like unfortunately has to deal with all that now because of my past. Right. He doesn't just get smooth sailing with me. They're like, are you making excuses for him or oh no yeah yeah i'm glad that you said yeah no i chewed him apart that night i and he deserved it like octaves that i didn't even know i could hit on the phone the fact that he still drove to palm springs obviously he knew he needed to be there for me but like i can't imagine what he was thinking on that drive that sounds like a car where your car ride where you're like you have no music on and it's silent you're holding on to the

steering wheel and you're like fuck yeah I remember he was getting food on his way up that night and I was so pissed because I was supposed to make us dinner and then he was fucking golfing because that was his way of dealing with it and just kind of like turning off before really dealing with it with me face to face. And I wasn't also, I was not actively like miscarrying at the moment. We found out the pregnancy wasn't progressing that day or I think the day before. I drove out to Palm Springs. I did want just like some time with just the cats. Like I didn't want to be around anyone for a bit.

And then when I knew he was coming and then he said he was fucking golfing or I checked his location, he was golfing. That's when I just like lost it. And then I was like, oh my God, I've been here alone for 24 hours. I don't want to be alone anymore. And then Lala was like, you said you wanted to be alone. And I'm like, I did because I did. But then I did not want to be alone anymore.

Whatever. But like, oh no no I went in on him and I remember him texting me like a tough time I'm gonna pick up in and out like do you want anything I just like shut my phone off like didn't even answer him he like came with food for me and I was like no I don't want that yeah I wanted to make you also sit the fuck down and let me tell you what's going on but like when I had the DNC procedure like when I went through all that like obviously he was with yeah for those times yeah and he learned his lesson it's probably I mean that was how long were you guys dating when that happened like six months yeah I know and I hope he's

learned his lesson that like oh absolutely things happen you come home yeah a hundred percent and it just I mean and that was you know a big like turning point, I think, in our relationship because he realized how bad I did need him and that he shouldn't have done what he did. Right. You know, like that wasn't smart of him. Totally. Even if he was just like, look, I feel like I need to just go and shut off for like a couple hours. I'm going to be a little later. But like he didn't even let me know.

Right. So that's why I was pissed. So I'm like. You check his location to find out. Yeah. yeah murder i was definitely prepared for that question i was really hoping they asked the one about the name madison oh yeah did you see my um my story today yes your text with rob so i just want to set the record straight on as many of my platforms as possible i never wanted the name Madison. No offense to anyone named Madison.

I was like, okay, I could call her Maddie. But that was not in my top ten names for a girl ever. Rob liked that name, and it was like what Rob said goes. So he's like, we have a girl one day. And that's why I was like, I was only saying that to try to tell all my like, I'm not crazy. Like this guy just named our first child. Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe he's not like out there blasting that he loves me in public. But like he literally said. And then you're the one on camera repeating it. And then looking like the person who's saying like, we're naming our first child. No. But I'm like, no, this was him. So I text him the other day.

And he called me. He FaceTimes me. And I was like, no, this was him. So I text him the other day and he called me. He FaceTimes me. And I was like, okay, this is great. But I'm like, can you text me back? Because like I'm trying to prove a point. I need receipts, bitch. I need it in writing. I think I might have told you this, but I ran into him a few weeks ago actually.

At Bryce Vine show? Yeah. So I go to this event with Brad at the Mondrian because Bryce was performing and right when I saw Bryce he's like come backstage he's like but I just like want to give you a heads up Rob's there and I was like that's okay I was like I've ran into him already I'm past that awkward like first time running into your ex as we told the story in the podcast before the first time when I ran into him it was it was awesome yeah exactly how you want it to go yes yeah so that was amazing so yeah so I see him backstage and we're talking for like quite a bit he was like I just have like

so many questions and I was like okay like shoot you know like the show hasn't started yet he's like has Brock tried your breast milk I'm like that's your first question what oh random so then we're just talking about baby stuff and like he's a stepdad now. We're talking like how's each other's families doing and whatnot. That's so funny. And then we kind of like got into not necessarily why we broke up, but like our relationship. It was like the weird closure conversation that we never really had. And I didn't know like I kind of still need it.

It was like I still was harboring actual like hatred. Yeah. And just bad feelings towards him. And the why. I feel like he kind of was just like blamed it on the show and a lot of other stuff. But it was never really a personal thing. That he was afraid. And he said he felt like he could never fully open up and like be himself being with me because he was

always like afraid of how he would look on camera like just he just wasn't the right guy absolutely not and he was like but brock he's like i feel like you've met your match he is such a perfect fit for you i'm like totally he is i was like main cast remember first season that's never happened they gave brock a tray and some drinks to spill so it was such a good conversation like i left that night being like not like oh i want to keep hanging out with my ex but i was like wow that was really good like i look forward to the next time i run into him yeah and i'm happy where i am now and where he is i'm so happy and that's the thing too like the first time when i ran into him Brock and I had been dating three months so at that point I don't know if this is my forever it felt good just to be like ha look at my upgrade you know I got the hot aquaman Thor combo but this time now being engaged

I have a baby yeah you're like I looked hot that night like I just felt so good seeing him 100% so like I'm actually looking forward to seeing him again this weekend I'm solidified. I looked hot that night. Yeah. Like, I just felt so good seeing him. 100%. So, like, I'm actually looking forward to seeing him again this weekend. Yeah. I'm like, all right, this will be fun. Is he still with the other girl? Yeah. They're still together. He's still a stepdad.

Yeah. Wow. But I just thought it was so funny that they, I was like, I text him this morning and I go, in all capitals, I was like, they legit asked me the question. I just, I knew it was coming. Of course. I mean, of course it, I feel like they have to play that back and make you face that. Yeah.

Of course. Of course. I wanted to ask too about, I feel like I know, I know your mom so well and the relationship that I saw with Brock and your mom, this episode was interesting, but also not surprising. And I've like, my mom asked me about it and she's like do brock and erica really not get along and i was like no they do but i was like one i feel like your family is like mine where we show love by like bickering and like being brutally honest with each other and like if brock was like tiptoeing around your mom or like didn't really

say he doesn't know but that's that's like also like a love language like in your family like you guys like your mom's like teases me all the time you know what that is. But that's also like a love language in your family. Like you guys, like your mom teases me all the time. You know what I mean? And it's like, oh, Janet's here again? Well, good thing I stopped talking shit about her before she walked in. I'm like, Erica, you can't say that. It's like this teasing, bickering banter that you guys always have. So when I saw it, I was like, I feel like people might be like, ooh, they don't like each other.

But I'm like, no, actually, I feel like it's it's like sure there are probably issues and problems that come up but you guys are facing them head-on it's not like Brock's behind your mom's back or whatever he's not like yeah but like that's also I feel like better than if he were being like yes Erica sure Erica whatever and then behind her back being like not that guy I hate that she's like you know so involved or you know with the baby or whatever my mom's used to me being with guys who have done that yeah no Rob Shay way more on the quiet totally I don't want to say more respectful because like Brock respects my mom he just has a funny way of showing it I mean he appreciates her so much he tells her that all the. He made her dinner every night when I was in New York and she was here helping. And like, they have a great relationship and bond now.

But it was definitely challenging in the beginning, especially because my mom is so involved and does help so much. And yes, I pay her to be our full-time nanny. So three things. One, your mom can hold her own. She can give it right back. And like, I love your mom for that. Like anytime I'm like, oh, this and this, she's like, oh, this? And I'm like, okay, wait, I forgot that you can dish it back. Like all of that. And

I talked to my mom today because she watched the episode and she was like, I don't think it's weird that she pays Erica. She was like, sure, if she was just a Friday night babysitter, I would say, yeah, that might be a little bit weird if she's paying her. She was like, sure if she was just a Friday night babysitter I would say yeah that might be a little bit weird if she's paying her she's like yeah but if she needs somebody available all the time wouldn't you rather have your mom be that person than a stranger and a babysitter she was like I would hope if I lived in California and I was close by and you had the ability to pay me instead of somebody else if you needed somebody because you're working full-time I'd rather have it be me than a 20 year old you know kid that you just hired off the street that you're not 100 sure about totally and she was like that

makes sense and then she was like and then sheena doesn't have to feel bad when she calls her mom up and says i need you to come actually like tomorrow to do this or whatever because then it's a mutual thing i'm paying you you're here when i need you and I can trust you totally and I thought that same exact thing and Brock knows like he so appreciates her and he knows how fortunate we are like when we go down back down to San Diego for the winter we're gonna be there for a few months yeah just because I miss being there so much and I'm like we've been you know still filming interviews and like still really busy in LA then we were in Vegas like almost every weekend last month so we just haven't been able to be down in San Diego much I know the cats are happier

there where they have stairs and just like more room like we let them on the patio there sometimes so we want to spend most of the winter down there yeah and it's gonna be hard like not having the help and I feel like that'll be the first time Brock's, not that he hasn't seen it already, but as soon as you guys can't be like, hey, like mom, can you come over for a couple hours like tomorrow afternoon or like tonight? Yeah, we can't do that.

You know, you have to like plan it out more in advance. He'll probably realize like, wow, like Erica's actually like the best. Yeah. It's way better than having somebody you have to have like hours around and like plan for. And like, you know, like I know he joked and called her an employee, but she's like so much more than an employee. Of course.

You know, and you can trust her. Yeah. I don't trust anybody. Yeah. With my kid. A hundred. I mean, a hundred percent. I mean, you, I mean, not that you shouldn't, but if you have the option, like my mom's all the way in Ohio.

So like if I can get my mom to move out here when I have a baby, I would do the same thing. But if I'm, you have no other choice and I'm working and I have to hire somebody, that's what I am dealing with. But if I were you and I had my mom 45 minutes away and could do that, I'd do the exact same thing. And I know Lala would do the same thing if she could too. And when her mom is in town,

it is just, you know, her mom and her with the baby. She brought her mom to Kristen's and her mom's like the exact same way. when like Ocean was napping her mom like was right outside the room or in the room with her I think and yeah she she doesn't utilize a nanny when her mom's in town yeah but it's like obviously like I understand I said this last night too I'm like she has to have a name we work yeah like and then especially with the babies and the baby nurse and the baby teacher, like, there's a lot. Yeah.

I would much rather, though, I feel like have my mom around. 100%. That makes sense. So, yeah, I was like, what did I say to Brock? We were talking about watching the episode back, something being awkward. And I was like, what's going to be awkward is when my mom's sitting next to you on the couch watching this episode with you. Yeah. For the first time.

Have fun with that. Oh, because you were in New York and it was just the two of them. Yeah. I didn't think about that. sitting next to you on the couch watching this episode with you yeah for the first time oh because you were in new york and it was just the two of them yeah i didn't think about that did he say how it was they facetimed me like when it was on and he was he's like i'm making your mom dinner right now then he's like oh erica this is the part yep here's where i talk shit okay but they got along good i mean i get that and like for brock coming in your mom and you guys your whole family is so close you guys all know what each other are doing all the time you share locations so that's a lot coming into like for me like jason and i's family are both in new york

and ohio so we talked to i talked to my mom like let's be honest like eight times a day every time i'm driving i call her yeah but like jason talks to his mom a few times a week there are different family dynamics. So like I'm sure Brock coming into your family, when your family's around so much, you guys talk so much. Yeah. It's a lot. It's a lot.

But it also is like very helpful when you have a baby. I can understand that. Yeah. And now that like my sister's with us full time too. Yeah. Like that's such a big help as well. And it was so fun going to New York with her. I know.

But I just like. Courtney's the coolest. She really is. She's the coolest one of, she's the her. I know. But I just like. Courtney's the coolest. She really is. She's the coolest one of. She's the coolest person I know in Los Angeles. Yeah. She's so cool. Her outfits are so cool.

She's so cool. I know. She's so cool. Calm. Cool. Cool. Calm. Collected.

She's just like so put together in everything she does. I'm just like, Courtney, can I be you? I know. Like. Ugh. Yeah. No. She's the coolest. If I could be

her age and have her body and just her attitude, I would just thrive in life. Yeah. I would just really, really thrive. Yeah. So it was a good time. I just felt like the whole time I was there, obviously like the biggest part of me was missing. I felt just on edge. Like, yesterday I had a big coffee, and then I was just, like, all day I just felt, like, jittery. Then I felt like I didn't get enough sleep because then it's, like, you know, you're losing hours. And I just felt so off. And so I'm, like, getting glam last night,

and I was, like, y'all, like, I feel nervous. I don't know if it was the episode or, like, what questions I'm going to be asked, but I'm, like, I just felt so nervous. And then once I got out there and, like, was like so awesome she was great she was like such a great what do you call the co-host co-guest um yeah we were just both guests that was a good and I feel like Andy asked hard questions the poll the polls are hard like I don't know what I would do like seeing live plays of like this is what America thinks of your relationship.

Yeah. And this is what, you know, everybody has to say about it. And oh, they all voted no. Sorry. I would be bothered by that. But I felt like you held your own and you like answered questions truthfully and got to the point. And Andy's tough. He's, you know what I mean?

He doesn't hold back at all with anybody. Yeah. tough he's you know what i mean he doesn't hold back at all with anybody yeah so i feel like you answered everything that you needed to and you answered the questions that everybody was wondering about after seeing the episode yeah it was interesting yeah it was fun it looked fun i want to go to new york with courtney yeah and you but courtney mostly i'm hoping that like brock and i go back and do the show together yeah our engagement episode I think that would be fun I would love to see him on live tv right who knows what he's gonna say yeah I didn't even think about that he's so brutally honest he really is it like to a fault yeah I was gonna

say like he doesn't hold back at all such an open book I'm sure there's sometimes where you want to pinch him where you're like stop yeah I'm, dude, you don't have to tell everyone everything. Dude. Yeah. I feel like that's what made the show so interesting but also got him in trouble this season.

Like, he could have not shared very much. Like, he could have been like Charlie's boyfriend, not to say he did anything wrong, but like, you know, just taken a step back and been like,

you know, just somebody that's there to support somebody else. But he really showed himself and all of himself in a very honest way. And it's not like people like digging up this information about him. He's like, yeah, I have two kids. I haven't talked to them in four years. And like, he puts it all out there.

And he's like, you know, if anyone's going to tell my story, it's going to be me. Right. And stay tuned because, I mean, it gets ugly. I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah. So we have some more things to be me. Right. And stay tuned because I mean, it gets ugly. I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah. So we have some more things to get into. But before we do that, we're going to take a little break. Y'all, I've had these meals so many times now. I've talked about it on the podcast before. They are from Green Chef. They're amazing. Like literally the best home meal kits we have tried. I just had a blackened chicken,

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Yes, I know. This is fun. I also have to ask you something. What? I saw a couple of people sent me. So first of all, after the last episode I was on I got so many awesome dms I saw there were like good reviews and stuff yeah and I screenshotted you some like great dms that I got and everybody was super supportive and said that they loved hearing us

back together which I loved and like I'm super thankful for it's always nice like it's nerve wracking like coming on any public platform and like talking especially when it's like right now it's just the two of us and we're like gabbing and then I'm like oh my god wait everybody's gonna hear everything we talked about I forgot that it wasn't just us so people dm'd me a ton of really supportive nice stuff which I super appreciated a couple people dm'd me like in the last week or two a screenshot that Jamie sent or posted that she said that she's no longer going to be on the podcast ever again.

And I'm wondering if that's because if anybody's like missed this, which maybe I'm sure a lot of people have, but Jamie, I think it was the Surrules or Pumperules page. One of the like fan pages, yeah. Posted the TomTom announcement saying that they were requiring negative covid tests or vaccinations to come to the bar and i think everybody has their right to choose i'm vaccinated personally but a lot of people have reasons that they don't want to yeah it's a tough subject and it's something i don't

like arguing because everybody has such strong opinions on what they believe. And it's like, you're not going to change anybody's minds. So like, I got my vaccine. If you didn't, I'm not going to pick a bone with you about it because I know that your reasons are probably set in stone. Right. There's nothing I can do about it. But I did see that she commented on one of the fan pages about the TomTom post saying something disagreeing with their choice to require vaccinations and negative COVID tests to enter the bar. And I commented something back about an article that she had posted saying like, Hey, this might not be the best source. And here's why. And it ended up being like 20

comments long. Yeah. And I was like, why did I pull this string? This was just, I'm not going to change. It has like 400,000 followers. I was just like, Oh did I pull this string? This was just, I'm not going to change. And on like a fan page that has like 400,000 something followers, I was just like, ugh. And it's one thing, to be honest, if it wasn't such a public thing, for me, I was like, you know, TomTom is making a business decision. Right. That they feel like is making their employees, their customers, you know, they looked at the situation and said, how can we make everybody safe? And they made a decision and they announced it. You know, they looked at the situation and said, how can we make everybody safe? And they made a decision and they announced it.

And so I was kind of in my head like, you know, I don't think it's right that she's commenting on our friend's business decision. And I kind of am going to put my two cents in. And it got ugly fast. And then other friends chimed in and it was a whole thing. It was a big thing. So then a week or two ago, a bunch of fans of the podcast messaged me and said, Jamie posted this. And it was a screenshot of her saying it was like a Q&A and somebody saying, are you going to be on shenanigans again? And she said like no and wrote like a paragraph saying, I wish them all the best. I wish she knew the best with it, but I won't be on again.

And I'm wondering if you think that that's because I was on after this argument. think that that's because I was on after this argument and if it's like a permanent thing or if you knew that she was going to post that in advance I didn't know she was going to post that so I saw that I mean it was super sweet and like her and I are we're good we're still friends we still talk several times a week we're in a good. We just did dinner last week at Sugar Taco. Yeah. But as far as the podcast went, it was like, I so appreciated how much time and effort and work she put in as did you in the past, you know? So it was hard for me because, you know, she wasn't obviously happy about how that situation went. And then I told her you were doing the episode out of respect, you know, I gave her a heads up and it was like, the end of the day you know it is my show and I wanted you to be

on it I didn't know that that was gonna snowball into her never wanting to do the show again and to be honest like I think you know that makes me sad because I think Jamie was great on the show and I think that there's room for lots of opinions and lots of conversations and I don't think it should be one or the other like I I think a lot of people you know loved her on it and there's space for everybody I wish she wouldn't draw a line in the sand like yeah even when my sister and I did a patreon podcast and we addressed it because um a few questions came in asking like where's Jamie been and I was like I mean I just assumed you know like she was still gonna come back so I was like okay well this is like a good opportunity to get some guests back on you know have some other co-hosts

and then when I saw that was posted on Instagram I was like oh okay well she's not coming back I guess then ever we're just gonna you know stay friends and not work together on the show anymore. And that's totally fine. Totally. And I hope that changes because I think there is room for all of those things. Like, I think there's room for Jamie to have her voice and me to have my voice and you to have guests and it to be your show overall, you know?

And I hope she changes her mind about that because I also don't want to be... Yeah, and the same because I know people loved listening to her on the show and, like, you know, people have been asking like when's Jamie coming back and then when I saw that I was like I guess she's not yeah well that's a bummer and it sucks that

I would hope would be like a debate instead of an argument turned into that but maybe she'll change her mind in the future yeah doors always open I wasn't closing it I was just like I just think for right now you know let's get back to doing some interviews. Right. I'm, I think I almost have the zoom thing figured out. It was definitely better last week's episode. We did a zoom podcast with a guest. His name is Rob dial. He's amazing. He's called the Mindset Mentor. And yeah, he has like these like 19 minute little

podcasts. He does three or four a week actually. And he was great to have on, but I was like, okay, I need to get this Zoom audio figured out. So I got a new mic that plugs into the computer, but then his audio still sounded better than mine. And I was like, God damn it, why can't I figure this out? We're old, that's why. Yeah, but soon I should hopefully be in a new studio with a new company. I'm so excited. So yeah, it's just, you know, contracts take a while.

Yeah. But I'm really excited for that. And in the meantime, you know, I'm happy to have you here again. I love doing the show with Brock, like my sister, now that she's with us working full time. Yeah, keep it new and mix it up and have fun. Yeah.

And, you know, hopefully another Jamie episode, too. Yeah, I hope so, too. I think that that's, I mean, I think that she did great things for the show. Yeah. Yeah, both of you, like, put so much, and it's like, you know, I always appreciated how much time and effort you put into it for free. Totally, yeah. You know, you're just donating your time because you want to help me out. And I have always loved and appreciated that.

I appreciate that. And I always had so much fun. We did so many fun guests and so many fun things. It was like, it never once felt like work, so. Yeah. There's room for everyone on Shamanigans. I'm saying there's room for everyone, too. I think that that's a good attitude.

Like, I would love for the three of us to do a podcast together. Like, that's going to be what I'm going to manifest. I'm not against it. I'm not against it. I would happily do a podcast with Jamie. Yeah. I don't think she would at the moment. And that's fine. Like, but I also, I don't know, I guess I can say agree to disagree on some things. agree to disagree on some things. And my point with responding to her comment on something was never to start a feud or anything like that. I wanted to have a reasonable debate and say, hey, did you ever look at it this way? And maybe I can see points that you're making and we can somehow come to an agreement here. And unfortunately it didn't turn out that way. But I don't think that there's just because I've come on that she shouldn't or I would never say if she's back on

again I'm never coming back on again like I do think there's room for everybody and agree to disagree yeah for sure we'll see stay tuned we'll see but thanks for joining me again we should definitely do this more because it's so fun having you back. Let's do it. I can't wait to get into a new studio soon. Yeah. Oh my God, I can't wait to put headphones back on. I know.

I'm doing this like raw dog, people. I actually, I do have a headphone splitter. So if you bring headphones next time. Honestly, every time we did the podcast. Do you still have the headphones that you gave me? Yeah, of course. I have the pink box and everything. Every time at this studio though, when I my headphones i remember afterwards i have such like pointy big ears that when i would

take my headphones off i'd be like my ears hurt like they were like sore afterwards but i'll put headphones back on for you perfect thank you guys so much for listening and um be sure to you know go give us a review doesn't even have to be five stars. It does have to be five stars. And when you give the five stars mention, it's because of Janet. Thanks for listening, guys. Bye. Sheena Shea.

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