SciShow Tangents - Bats
Episode Date: April 2, 2019Bats have a bad reputation because of the ones that drink blood or spread disease, but these furry flying critters can be pretty cute! This week, we’re talking about everything from echolocation to ...weird potential uses for bat poop. Are there really bats with suction cups on their wings or is that just a cool toy idea? What is white nose syndrome and could vaping mushroom compounds… help? And what do you really think about Hank’s Dracula impression?Follow us on Twitter @SciShowTangents, where we’ll tweet out themes for upcoming episodes and you can ask the science couch questions!And if you want to learn more about any of our main topics, check out these links:[Poem]https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/these-pitcher-plants-call-bats-get-their-poo-180956014/https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsbl.2010.1141[Truth or Fail]Bats that spend time on the ground:http://news.cornell.edu/stories/2005/03/vampire-bats-keep-out-trouble-running-study-showshttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16621953https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/blogs/creatura-blog/2018/01/why-fly-when-you-can-shuffle-the-lesser-short-tailed-bat-prefers-the-ground/Diurnal bats:https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2018/11/daytime-bats-help-explain-nocturnal-evolution/https://blogs.plos.org/ecology/2017/06/29/bat-species-found-only-on-islands-in-trouble-worldwide/https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/mamm.ahead-of-print/mammalia-2017-0128/mammalia-2017-0128.xmlSuction cup bats:https://www.wired.com/2010/04/how-sucker-winged-bats-hang-on/[Fact Off]Bat & dolphin echolocation:https://evolutionnews.org/2012/05/tangling_the_tr/https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2010/01/hear-bats-and-whales-share-sonar-proteinhttps://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(09)02073-9https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12511https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/tetrapod-zoology/refined-fine-tuned-placental-mammal-family-tree/Moth echolocation blocker:https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2009/07/moths-block-bats-sonarhttp://science.sciencemag.org/content/325/5938/325?keytype=ref&siteid=sci&ijkey=GbDjRlkoHfRnYhttps://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/phenomena/2009/07/17/tiger-moths-jam-the-sonar-of-bats/http://jeb.biologists.org/content/214/14/2416[Ask the Science Couch]White-nose syndrome:https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/campaigns/bat_crisis_white-nose_syndrome/Q_and_A.htmlhttps://www.whitenosesyndrome.org/static-page/what-is-white-nose-syndromehttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-bats-could-bounce-back-devastating-white-nose-syndrome-180969378/https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-02441-zhttps://www.mdpi.com/2309-608X/4/2/48[Butt One More Thing]Bat guano gunpowder:https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/dkc09 Â
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Hello, welcome to SciShow Tangents, the likely competitive knowledge showcase starring some
of those geniuses that make the YouTube series SciShow happen.
This week joining me as always are Stephan Chin.
Hello there.
It's been a while since we recorded, so I actually haven't seen you in a while.
How have things been going?
Nothing's new. I'm still moving in.
Oh, wow.
Very slowly.
I take one thing out of the box each day.
We're also joined by Sam Schultz.
Hello.
Who's got very blue hands right now.
That was going to be my tagline.
No, I don't have one. Oh, I didn't ask got very blue hands right now. That was going to be my tagline. No, I don't have one.
Oh, I didn't ask Stefan what his tagline was.
Oh, channeling that big Zamboni energy.
Ooh, I don't like it.
Sam, sorry.
Let's start all over again.
Hi, Sam.
Hi, Hank.
So, tell me about your tagline then.
Very natural intro. Oh, we're going to leave the firstline then. Very natural intro.
We're going to leave the first one in.
Oh, okay.
My tagline is currently covered in blue paint for a secret reason.
We've also got Sari Riley.
Hello.
Hello.
I'm waiting for a prompt, a question to answer.
Sari, what is your tagline?
Yikes.
Just several yikes or just one?
Oh, just one yike.
And I'm Hank Green.
My tagline is all new skin.
Our worst intro yet.
I think it was tight.
Tight as a mofo right there.
That was really together.
Every week here on SciShow Tangents, we get together to try to one-up, amaze, and delight each other with science facts.
We're playing for glory and also playing for Hank Bucks.
I've had several people reach out on Twitter and they say to me, you know, you should probably keep track of who's doing good in the Hank Bucks department.
So maybe we should do this.
Early on, there was a good reason not to.
Yeah.
Because we weren't doing them in order. Oh, now we are. Now we can. I think we'll probably be totally fine. Okay, let should do this. Early on, there was a good reason not to. Yeah. Because we weren't doing them in order.
Oh, now we are.
Now we can.
I think we'll probably be totally fine.
Okay, let's do it.
We can figure out a way to do that.
Okay.
Yeah, I want people to be into the metagame of all of this.
Mostly I'm scared that it'll be very skewed in some way and we won't realize it.
Skewed towards me.
Probably skewed towards Sam.
Since the show is called SciShow Tangents, you might expect that we go off on some of those,
but we try to stay on topic, and if we go
off on a tangent, if it is
deemed to be unworthy, the rest of
the team can force you to give up a hank
buck for your bad tangent. Now,
as always, we introduce this
week's topic with a traditional science poem
this week from Sari Reilly.
There are plants shaped like pitchers with fluid
within, and digestive enzymes to break down what has been unlucky enough to fall into these traps,
except for one species. It's perfect for naps. Its mammalian tenants get sleepy by day,
need a safe haven to roost and keep predators away. Whether they're flying solo or a mom-baby
pair, cute woolly bats snuggle in and take care. Now you might ask, what's the
plant get from it? Well, the bats pay their dues, and their currency is shit. Nitrogen-rich bat
guano is a precious treat for a plant starved by poor soil that just wants to eat. So a bat and
its toilet, what a friendship, what a team. And bat poop, I guess, is worth more than it seems.
Ah, this week's topic is bats, not poop, not pitcher plants.
I know.
There could be a lot of different things.
Oh, mutualistic relationships.
Not mutualistic relationships, but just generally bats.
That's a good bat fact that you turned into a very good column.
Very good.
Usually, Sari defines our topic for us.
Do you have a what is a bat?
What is a bat?
What is a bat?
Are they all related to each other or did they ever convergently evolve?
I don't actually know the answer to that question.
They're all related to each other as far as I know.
Yeah, I think that is the case.
They're in an order called chiroptera.
Do you know what their clade is?
I don't.
Because I know what their clade is.
What's a clade?
A clade is a taxonomical
subcategory, basically. I think it's a category within another taxonomical category, but there's
lots of different kinds of clades. But they are in the clade scrotifera, which is mammals with
scrotums. Though we are not in scrotifera, which is a little confusing. Why not? Is ours different?
Ours is different.
I think that our scrotums evolved separately from bat scrotums.
But I'm not sure.
I just know that we're not in scrotifera and bats are.
So all scrotifera evolved from one ancient scrotum.
Correct.
Yeah, I mean, they definitely came from the genes contained in one ancient scrotum.
Yes.
That's beautiful.
There's something poetic about it.
But sorry I interrupted because I wanted to talk about scrotums.
Does anybody want to charge me for that?
I don't think so.
I liked it.
Yeah, bats have scrotums, part of the definition of a bat.
They also have, they're the only mammal that actually flies.
So there are other mammals that can glide. They have membranes between their
limbs, but bats have modified arms, essentially, that they can flap and fly through the air and
don't just soar down like a flying squirrel or a colugo or something like that. And all bats have
a common bat ancestor. As far as I know, yes. Papa Scroat, I think they called him.
I know, yes.
Papa Scroat, I think they called him.
And they're the second largest order of mammals, which I thought was interesting, like by number of species that they have. Wait, second largest?
Yeah.
I thought they were the largest.
Yeah, I thought so too.
Rodents, yeah.
Oh, rodentia.
You're learning from the show.
And some of them eat insects or fruit.
Those are the two main categories of bat food.
And blood.
What about the drinking blood?
Yeah, then there are vampire bats who are off in their own corner.
And they gave all other bats a really bad name, basically, right?
I think also bats carry a lot of diseases,
and especially viruses and stuff that are transmissible to humans
which probably helped spread the vampire myth okay so we know what bats are yes they're cute too
i think they're really cute yes they're cute i already did they're fuzzy cute fly balls are even
the big ones cute like the two to three meter wingspans? Like a flying fox? Yeah.
I would be free to go flying fox.
And now it is time for Truth or Fail.
One of our panelists has prepared
three science facts for our education
that enjoy...
One science fact.
Hopefully you've listened to previous episodes
and know how this segment works already.
So there's two fake facts, one true fact.
And the other panelists have to figure out either by luck or wild guess which is the true fact.
If we do, we get a Hank Buck.
If we don't, then Stefan gets that Hank Buck.
Give me it.
Stefan, what are your bat facts?
Fact number one.
The lesser short-tailed bat is the only species of bat that we know of that has evolved flightlessness. It
lives in New Zealand and crawls around on all fours foraging for food and chews into trees to
create little burrows for itself. Flightless bat! If that's not real, I'm gonna give you a hank
fuck anyway. I'll take it. Fact number two. While the vast majority of bats are nocturnal, the Simone
flying fox is the only bat that exhibits, quote, strong diurnal proclivities, meaning that they are active and forage during the daytime.
Okay.
And number three.
Weird.
While most bats grab onto things with their feet and roost upside down,
the bats in the genus Thyroptera are one of two bat genera that roost head up,
but it's the only one that uses suction from little cups on its hands and feet
to hang onto leaves so it can do that.
That's cute.
So we've got flightless bats that burrow into trees,
the daytime bat, and suction bat that roosts head up.
Oh, man.
There are so many different kinds of bats.
So like any of these seem totally plausible.
I am a big fan of the flightless bat, though,
because I would never have thought of a flightless bat existing. But I it totally could it makes sense would you say it was from new zealand or
something where there's also lots of flightless birds down there the diurnal bat seems the fakest
to me because it feels like there'd be lots of diurnal bats yeah because like not all bats
are nocturnal i think which like by definition means that some of them have to be diurnal.
Also, not all bats eat insects. So like there are bats that eat fruit and you don't need to
look for fruit at night necessarily. Right. So are bats mostly nocturnal because that's when
the bugs are out? I don't know. Why? Because it's not like they need to worry about predators too
much, except for like, I guess, birds of prey, because it's going to be hard to catch a bat.
Except for, like, I guess birds of prey.
Because it's going to be hard to catch a bat.
I am going to go for the lesser short-tailed bat.
The bat that does not fly.
Flightless bat.
I'm going to do suction cup bat also because I love it.
I pick suction cup bat too.
Okay.
It was the suction cup bat.
So the Simone flying fox is mostly diurnal.
And there are a few species that we know of that fly around during the day.
But there's only like four species total.
And they all live on islands where there are not predatory birds.
I think the leading hypothesis for why bats became nocturnal in the first place is that when they were first evolving,
they had to compete with predatory
like hawks and owls and things.
Who are probably way, way, way better at flying than they are.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
And I typed in flightless bat into Google and I got the New Zealand lesser short-tailed
bat.
But it's not flightless.
It's not flightless.
It just crawls around a lot.
Yes.
It's just lazy.
around a lot.
Yes.
It's just lazy.
No, I don't know why it does it, but that and the common vampire bat both spend a lot of their time on all fours.
Walking around?
Walking around.
Lazy makes sense to me for that because it probably takes a lot of energy to fly.
Yeah, but you go much faster than when you're just walking around with your big wings.
And it's like harder to run around when you have wing arms.
Yeah, like your hands are just giant flaps of skin.
Yeah, just like one knuckle, right?
Because their wings are their digits spread out.
But yeah, so those bats still fly.
The New Zealand one does actually chew into trees
to make little burrows for itself,
whereas most bats roost. And these ones actually roost most of the time, just sometimes they chew
into a tree. So then the true thing was about the suction cups. And there are two genuses,
Thyroptera, which are the disc-winged bats, but they use suction to stick onto leaves. And the other genus, Myzopoda,
are called sucker-footed bats,
but they don't use suction.
They secrete a sticky, wet fluid
from their pads.
They just have stuff that leaks out of their fingers.
I'm glad that's not me.
Well, you could climb stuff, though.
But touching things,
typing would be hard.
Just wear gloves.
And then you take your glove off at the end of the day and be like,
look at all my goop that has been accumulating inside of my glove.
You know, when you go to the bathroom, you change your glove.
Right.
I like this.
I like this speculative universe in which everybody has to change gloves every 30 minutes.
Because we evolved from sticky people.
All right.
Next up is the fact off.
But first, a word from our sponsors.
Now get ready for the Fact Off.
Two panelists bring science facts.
That was a big one.
Bring science facts to present to the others in an attempt to blow their minds.
The presentees each have a hank buck to award the fact they like the most.
So you award it to the one who blew your mind the most. It's gonna be
me, because it's me versus Sam. I'm not saying
that Sam... What? Whoa.
I'm just saying it's gonna be me.
I heard what you said.
You don't have the Dracula voice either to
make it funny. It's me against
Sam. I wouldn't stand a chance
against Dracula. It's me against
Sam, and I'm sure that we have equal chances of winning.
The person who's going to go first is the one who most recently gave blood.
When was the last time?
It's been a long time.
It's been a long time.
It's been a long time for me, too.
I give blood to my doctor like once every.
In fact, I'm scheduled to do it today.
And I didn't.
But I should have.
Regularly.
But this is to the people who
need it the vampires yeah i think i was in high school maybe okay a long time oh all right well
it was definitely me then i got the good blood i got the universal donor blood so i feel bad not
doing it yeah it makes sense um so i i probably gave blood the last like two three years ago
i have b positive which is a nice little reminder for me i do too and my dad would always
make jokes about it because i'm like not a super optimistic person all the time you just be like
be positive siri just very weird go to go to yeah your room dad yeah i'm being an angsty teen right
now i don't need that all right so i guess that means I go first Everybody you know about dolphins, right?
Uh-huh. Yep. They are like bats in one way, but almost no other ways
We talked a little bit about how bats are in scrotifera
But it turns out dolphins are also weirdly enough in scrotifera
They don't have scrotums
But they their ancestors do.
They used to have a scrotum.
They look so funny.
Were they external?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, their ancestors were like cows and stuff.
Like horses.
Did they just get bitten off one generation?
No.
It wasn't good for swimming.
We need to do an episode about evolution.
We did one.
I know. Yeah, we do. I know.
Yeah, camels, pigs,
ruminants, and whales
are all sort of like together.
Cool.
And so those things
have scrotums,
but the dolphins,
that would be really uncomfortable
if they're just hanging out
flopping in the...
Yeah.
Anyway,
that's not what my fact is about.
It's not real.
So they are
somewhat closely related.
Like they're more closely related to each other than they are to us, for example.
But they are very different things.
Like it's a tiny fuzzy thing that flies in the air versus a big, not fuzzy thing that swims in the oceans and mostly just the oceans.
But they do have this thing in common where they both echolocate.
They see with sounds
and they do it very efficiently and effectively.
And this is a thing that evolved
and it evolved from two animals
that like evolved independently of each other.
But since they're fairly closely related animals,
it turns out they evolved this
in exactly the same biochemical way. So usually convergent evolution is a thing that
happens when like, you know, a bat and a bird both have wings, but they got their wings in
totally separate ways. Like a bird's wing is the whole arm. A bat's wing is just the fingers,
is just a separate thing. But in this case, the same protein, Preston, in the ear, has the same mutations in it that makes it different from our Preston in dolphins as it does in bats.
They have the same different genes, but they evolved those different genes entirely separately.
It's one of the best cases of convergent molecular evolution there is, and it was only recently discovered, and I find it very cool.
That is very cool.
What does the gene specifically do?
Does it just like—
It codes for like a little hair in your ear that hears better.
Basically, it's a change that lets them hear more sensitively.
That's interesting to me because dolphins also don't have big ears
to channel the sound in.
Right, yeah.
So the fact that they have the same mutation
and that functions underwater and above water
and without ear flaps.
In like the ear area.
Well, I assume dolphins have ears,
but do they open to the outside world?
Because I know like there's whales
that have like internal ears. I think it's whales.
But then sound is transmitted
through their jaw. There's like
a material in their jaw
that can transmit the sound to their ear
canal. Dolphins do have a tiny
tiny little ear hole.
Okay. It is pretty much
invisible unless you're looking for it. But that
is where the sound goes back in. Yeah.
And that's where their little, their Preston hairs are.
There are 14 points of mutation
that they share with bats.
And they all changed in exactly the same way.
Whenever my son walks into a place that echoes,
like it's like,
it sounds different because it's,
you know,
got some reverb quality.
He goes,
bop,
bop,
bop,
bop. And I'm like, you bop, bop, bop.
And I'm like,
you are echolocating, aren't you?
Maybe he's got the little ears.
It's super cute.
Like, you walk into a tunnel and he's like, bop, bop.
He's going to catch some bugs.
So that's my fact.
Hit me, Sam.
All right.
So, bats echolocate to find food yeah i think all
right bugs and one thing that they eat moths and this is a conjecture on my part but the moth seems
like a pretty good food for a bat because they're big and they don't seem like they fly so great
yeah and they're very easily confused by lots of stuff including light so they can just swoop
around and eat them but there are some types of moths who have learned to fight back against bats.
So there's a family of moths
called the tiger moth family,
and they make clicking sounds
by vibrating membranes inside of them.
Scientists have known about this for a long time
and that a lot of tiger moths are poisonous,
and so they click to alert bats not to eat them
because they are poisonous.
But there's a type of tiger moth called the Bertholdia trigona,
which has way louder clicks and isn't poisonous.
And nobody could figure out why until 2009.
So in 2009, they tied a bunch of moths to the ceiling
with like fishing line and they were just dangling down.
And they let bats out into this room to eat the moths.
And some of the moths could make the sound,
and some of them had been altered so that they could not click.
I'm sure in a very humane way.
Yeah, probably not just with a big needle poked through.
So what they found was that the bats caught the non-clicking moths
400% more often than they caught the clicking moths.
And the ones trying to catch clicking moths and the ones trying to catch clicking moths
the bats trying to catch clicking moths looked confused and hesitant to try to catch the moth
so what they determined after taking a closer look was that the moths could make 4500 clicks per
second which basically made like a curtain of sound that the bats got like garbled feedback
from their echolocation jammed the radar yeah totally so they couldn't tell where the moth was so they would like swoop in bit into like thin air and not be
Able to grab the moth. That's it
I also we did a side show on
Various moth strategies for not getting eaten by bats and it's also
potentially why they're fuzzy because it like the echolocation bounces back less less sound foam
yeah it's sound foam for for moths well some moths have just devoted their lives to not getting
eaten by bats which is probably a pretty good strategy for a slow moving, juicy
bit of food that lives in the air.
How do they make the clicks?
Do you know anything about the organ that
does that? I couldn't find anything that described it
super. It just said membranes inside
of them.
Clicky membrane. And so the poisonous
ones make a lot softer
clicks that
the bats avoid.
Right.
The louder ones, the bats don't avoid.
So that's why they were like, what's going on here?
I mean, my thought would be like, they're just trying to pretend.
Like, I'm also clicky.
Yeah.
I'm poisonous like a mimic.
And there are non-poisonous ones that do that too.
Okay.
These ones just like, they're so loud you can hear them without any kind of like special
equipment you can just hear them flying around in fields all right those were two very good facts i
have no idea what i would choose but me though i'm gonna give mine to sam because that was more
mind-blowing to me just like learning about the curtain the sound really good it is they're jamming the radar of a convergent
molecular evolution i know 14 points do have a good probability
well mine's that probability too right sam's is less mind-blowing from a statistical standpoint
but the mechanism is more mind-blowing so Memories. So I'm going to give it to Sam. No!
I was very satisfyingly mind-blown by both.
Okay.
Yes.
But I got more points.
You're banished.
I will survive.
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and at BiologyAlex ask,
is there any cure for the fungus,
aka white nose syndrome,
that's wiping out the United States Northeast population of bat?
You're looking at me like I have any idea.
I have never.
I got nothing.
Have you heard of white nose syndrome before?
Yeah, it's definitely a problem.
And the question has been, in my understanding,
is this just a really bad pathogen or is there some human cause that is making it worse like pesticides or habitat loss or something that is making it more common for it to be spread more easily?
And I don't know the answer to that.
I saw a picture and it looks a lot like moldy nose.
Yeah.
It's like you get a fungus face.
Is fungus and mold, are those the same thing? Yeah. Mold is a fungus. So, yeah, it is a lot like moldy nose. Yeah. It's like you get a fungus face. Is fungus and mold, are those the same thing?
Yeah.
Mold is a fungus.
So yeah, it is a fungus.
I don't know if we're confused about how or why it spreads.
But it started in winter 2006 in Albany, New York.
As far as we know, it was probably other places too.
But that was the first documented case of it where they found dead bats with white fuzz around their nose. It's a fungus called, oh gosh, I couldn't find a pronunciation,
so this is just me doing my best with my biology knowledge. Pseudogymnoascus destructans.
That's a bad name. Yeah. I don't want that. This one bad.
And it attacks the skin of bats. So that's why it shows up around their nose because that's not
where there is fuzzy but it also attacks like their wing tissue anywhere that is exposed skin
and essentially what it does is like this attack on their immune system makes them wake up when
they should be hibernating so during the winter times during the day times, during the day times, and use their fat reserves when they should be conserving energy.
So it destroys their tissue and then leads to really malnourished looking bats.
Really, their wings tighten up for some reason.
Weird.
I think it's like whatever makes it flexible maybe gets destroyed.
I watched a video and a woman was pulling on a bat wing, which would normally stay extended and it like contracted really quickly.
Why does it wake them up? Because they're in pain or something or just messes them up?
I think so. I think it like messes up something with their internal systems. I don't know exactly
how it attacks them, but it's like a bad infection. It'd be like getting a bad cold,
but fungus in your body, I guess, which is not the same as a cold. One source that I was reading called it one of the worst wildlife diseases in North America. So
since winter 2006, it's killed over 6.7 million bats by some estimates, which is a lot. And it
can kill 70 to 90% of bats in an infected,
I love this word,
hibernaculum,
which is the place where bats gather to all hibernate in a group.
Oh, yeah, nice.
So it's a hibernaculum of bats.
Do they hibernaculate?
Caves, probably.
Yeah.
General bat places.
Okay, they don't have a special place.
A lot of caves.
Yeah.
And this is you can see maps of where this is found.
It's mostly in the northeast U.S., mostly in Canada, like that general region.
And they're finding it more and more western in the United States.
And we've actually found this fungus infecting bats in other countries, like several other European countries and I think in China.
But in the U.S., it's extremely deadly for some reason and we think it was transported over here by humans not by bats um because there's no way for a bat to migrate across the ocean in that way
so it was probably like a human in a cave got the fungus on them spread it to a different cave
and just like the colonizers,
we have infected the bat population right now, decimating them. So that is white-nose syndrome.
We're trying to figure out possible cures for it. And a lot of the research that I found is pretty,
like the beginning stages of it and pretty recent. So one main avenue is like people studying the DNA
one main avenue is like people studying the dna of this fungus and they found that one it needs cold to grow like something about its genetic makeup makes it require cold so we should heat
the earth up oh perfect we warm the planet global how would we do that uh good idea but
i need some avenues at least the bats are going to be.
So they're not entirely sure what to do with that information.
But also during the same genetic research where they discovered that it needs cold to grow,
they also found that it's missing the repair mechanisms for DNA when it's damaged by UV light.
So, I don't know, in all of our bodies, we have a bunch of cellular molecular biology mechanisms
that, like, our DNA is constantly being damaged by UV light,
having mutations, and then it goes back and fixes it.
And so this fungus doesn't have it.
So we need to shine the light on the bats.
Yeah, they're trying to figure out a way.
I think they called it a UV tunnel or something,
like constructing those at the entrance
to caves have to like crawl through the uv light yeah or like they fly through it and get blasted
by uv light which doesn't harm the bats because they have the repair mechanism but the fungus
doesn't oh but it sounds extremely elaborate like you need a lot of yeah timing that would be good for maybe one cave at a time. They also found that there is a fungal compound that inhibits the growth of P. destructans.
They had, I'm guessing, like dishes of P. destructans and then like sprayed this vapor, this mushroom vapor on them.
Vaping that truffle butter.
So we either, so okay, so our solutions are global warming, just UV tunnels, and the bats
have to vape.
That sounds great for the bats.
Yeah, they can like tan and vape.
That's pretty cool.
And one professor has tested bat vapes, but he called it a bat fogger instead.
I think he used some sort of antifungal volatile organic compound, which is what this mushroom alcohol falls into.
So some sort of chemical. I'm not sure if it was this exact one and sprayed a bunch of fog into an abandoned railway tunnel where bats roost.
And the just the numbers were higher
than they expected like this was a colony that they'd known was infected with white nose syndrome
it had been decimated in years past and it was like slightly higher than they expected it to be
so maybe it helped we're not sure but it doesn't seem to be something that's going away on its own
like i haven't heard as much about white nose syndrome as I did like in 2011, I feel like.
But that's just because we got tired of talking about it, not because the problem's gone away.
So the people who are studying these bats and studying white nose syndrome have also just been
tracking numbers of like population numbers to see what is happening and where they have to
concentrate their efforts. And it seems like certain colonies are rebounding by themselves.
So like to give you a sense of the scale, one that they were monitoring had about 90 adult
bats in 2010. And then in 2018, when the article I'm reading is published, it rebounded to 200.
And they're not entirely sure why, like is some sort of natural selection happening where maybe
bats that are more resistant to the fungus and this disease are surviving and passing on the genes that help them?
Or is it behavioral avoidance of sick bats?
Like, are they learning some sort of behavioral trait?
Are they, I don't know, is the fungus?
Just going to lay out in the sun.
Yeah.
Daytime just being like.
What if we just like put a UV light in the cave and and be like if you guys want to use this you can just imagine leaving little presents in each of the bat cave
it's like a little uv lamp a little vape pen here you go space heater yeah
do with it what you will yeah um so yeah so so it is like a very intense very devastating thing
and people are worried about the bats and it like sucks that it was probably human caused right and
so humans want to try and fix it but epidemics happen in nature all the time and species adapt
or bounce back or don't go extinct so something's gonna happen going to happen. Oh, no.
I'll go shine lights on bats.
I'll do it.
Sam's got a new job.
He quits.
Going to go to every cave.
Yeah.
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So it looks as if I lost.
Sarah, you've got two points.
Thank you.
Oh, that's not a winning?
Oh, no.
No, it's not.
Stefan, you've got one point.
Sam.
Yeah?
Pulling out the win
with three Hank Bucks.
How?
I should have thought about
the score.
Oh, I know how.
Yeah.
Oh, I did.
One plus two.
Sam, I don't trust you to tally up all our scores now.
You better build a spreadsheet so I can check your math.
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Is it about bat poop?
It is about bat poop.
All my facts are about bat poop.
They got good poop.
They got great poop.
Bat guano has a really high nitrogen content,
specifically compounds called nitrates,
which if you put them through a couple synthesis process
can be turned into things like fertilizer,
but also gunpowder.
And so at times like this particular one is a civil war.
When supply chains were cut off to the Confederacy,
they would go to bat caves, mine a bunch of bat poop,
put them in kilns, and create gunpowder from poop.
So we killed each other with bat poop.
Yeah.
Leave it to humans.
Yeah, it's the ingenuity of us.
Bloodthirsty human being.