Segments - 79: Persistence

Episode Date: May 22, 2014

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Starting point is 00:03:20 Y'all can call me The Pitch. Okay. What thinks you, Jake? Never mind. You gotta just ask the pinch, babe. What if I have a problem for you? Choose. You gotta answer right.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Let's jump right into the show. Let's jump right into the show. Oh, don't let us down. What if I were? What if I were? What if I were? What if I were? You show up at gmail.com. I'm a Leo and I like to shine. Thoughts? Let's mosh.
Starting point is 00:04:29 You started a mosh pit in here. i think we should mosh for that you moshed by yourself when was the last time you saw a mosh pit i feel like it was relatively recently did you ever do a mosh pit yeah back when i was in like high school you would mosh i think i was like too afraid to mosh, but I would stand outside the pit pushing people back in. I would die in a mosh. Yeah. The mosh pits are for big dudes with cargo shirts. No, they're not for big dudes.
Starting point is 00:04:54 They're just for fucking anybody. They're for animals. There are no rules inside the pit. The pit is international waters. The pit is me, and it's you, and it's mosh, and it's good, and it's now and it's now and that was it this podcast is brought to you by mosh pit brad's ugly younger brother hey brad and mosh pit here you think brad pit has a Yeah, his name is Mosh.
Starting point is 00:05:27 It would suck to be Brad. Even if his name was Josh, Josh Pitt. Yeah. Pretty close. All right, hey. Whoa, wait, wait. Let me talk about these guys. A little bit of background info. This is me reading the email that they submitted.
Starting point is 00:05:39 A little bit of background info. We are two brothers who do cover songs on youtube under the alias thunder the covers all one word if you wanted to mention so they have a youtube channel called thunder the covers solid yeah it's cute because it's under the covers but it's also hardcore because it's thunder i like that a lot yeah the thunder from down thunder perfect um yeah that's it this is if i were you the only advice podcast on the internet hosted by us i'm amir and i'm the pinch oh my god he's back the pinch went into hibernation but the pinch has returned the last three episodes were not the pinch. That wasn't me. But I am me now. I am the pinch and you have been pinched and it wasn't a cinch, but here I am, none the
Starting point is 00:06:31 lynch. Yeah. You made a mosh pinch, which is a mosh pit based solely of people like you. So how does it work? We get emails from all around this great world. Earth. Of people who are in a difficult place. Dire. Yeah, dire straits, if you will. And they seek advice.
Starting point is 00:06:53 So they come to us and we read these emails and do our best to offer these advisors. No. Do our best to offer. You had a perfect game going. Then you got shelled in the ninth. We lost. 14 to 2. A lost. 14-2. A walk-off homer.
Starting point is 00:07:09 The manager kept me in just to shame me. Even though my shoulder was... I needed Tommy Johns, but they said, fucking put him out for one last pitch. It was like I was an old Hall of Famer throwing out the ceremonial first pitch. That was the lob over the plate. They wouldn't let me leave the mound.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I had to throw the last seven batters left-handed to not throw one strike. Manager showed me less than no mercy. I hit several of the batters. He did not care. So we are going to be reading these real emails From real people Let's give them fake names To preserve their anonymity What do you got?
Starting point is 00:07:50 What do you got, got, you got, shot You know we can do Which we haven't done in a while Since maybe the first two or three episodes Which was make up names Just making something up Yeah So like we need a lady's name
Starting point is 00:08:00 Daffodil Rayen What's that? Daffodil Rayon what's that daffodil rayon rain or rayon rayon r how do you spell that last one r a y in r a i hyphen in daffodil rain. Right. Hey guys, I'm 19 from Sydney, Australia. I'm told that I'm reasonably attractive. Anyway, I get a lot of compliments, looks, etc., which is totally fine and flattering, but the problem is that breed of guy who take it further and start outright hitting on me when I really don't want to be hit on. I've been in a happy relationship with my boyfriend for two years. I know that you're probably thinking, what a bitch, get over it. But it's actually a major issue. For instance, this morning, I was trying to study some Chinese
Starting point is 00:08:54 vocab on the bus for a test and a random guy came up to me and started hitting on me really loudly. It was so embarrassing because I'm one of those girls who automatically blushes when a guy looks at me, and I didn't get any studying done at all. It kind of happens to me a lot. I also have trouble with guys at work hitting on me when I'm just trying to do my job. It's distracting and makes me uncomfortable. My question is, how can I signal politely to guys that I'm taken before I waste half an hour while they engage in cringeworthy chit-chat and get at the courage to ask me out so I can finally say I have a boyfriend. I don't want to be rude, but I'm a busy girl with things to do. Thanks, guys.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Love, Daffodil Rayan. So, how much sympathy do you have to this cutie? I was feeling like she was a little bit of a bitch and she had to get over it up until the point where she said it's actually a major issue and now and now i don't know actually i flipped on this really tell me where you're at because i think well i think she has a non-bad problem this is like a good problem to have. My car is too shiny.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yeah, exactly. I have too much money. But it is still a problem. Obviously, you'd rather have this problem than the other problem. Why won't guys hit on me? I'm lonely and I need attention. I'm sad. I'm horny and open to it, but nobody wants to talk to me.
Starting point is 00:10:23 But at the same time, this is also an issue. And she, you know, we're asking people for their own sticky situations, and this is hers. Right. I do want to be like, this is... She's, at the very least... Oh, no. I thought you were going to sneeze and say bitch at the same time. But you actually did just sneeze.
Starting point is 00:10:43 No, yeah, that was just a real sneeze. Is this our first sneeze on the podcast i think there was another sneeze that i said is this the first sneeze and somebody had commented that i'd sneezed another time so this is sneeze number three technically i believe the pinch has uh racked up a record three sneezes on the old p cast would you say you sneeze the sneeze yeah i would i would say i sneeze the cheese yeah okay good so what would you tell this hot forget the pinch everybody call me the sneeze oh no no you don't want to start that oh y'all know polyshore the weasel yeah the sneeze meaning um i don't i don't i don't suck the juice i just sneeze i i think it's i was like a little miffed that she's like i was studying chinese on the on the on the that's the part that got to you just like just stop it i understand you're pretty like and i'm the type of girl that blushes when a
Starting point is 00:11:39 guy hits on me like okay you're pretty you're demure you're devoted to your boyfriend you're learning chinese i get it but i'm the guy that's hitting on her you're that guy that gets hit on international i think i am going to take a walk around the block cool down a little bit for that that pissed me off the song yeah the one line from a song it really did and you have to you have to take a walk my hitter my hitter uh what could what would you do what would you suggest have you ever talked to a girl for way too long before she dropped the boyfriend bomb um uh yeah probably i don't think it bothers me that much though as much like so i wouldn't have really registered right like so you're just saying girls can be friendly even if they have boyfriends where do you fall on that like if you
Starting point is 00:12:28 talk to a girl for half an hour and she's like very friendly basically what happened to me last week yeah that's that was interesting i guess that was fine because it didn't it didn't advance to a point where she needed to say i have a boyfriend i actually a little bit get more annoyed when i'm like just talking to someone and being like, so yeah, what do you, what do you have? She's like,
Starting point is 00:12:46 um, well, yeah, I live with my boyfriend. Like, okay. All right. I was just talking.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Well, that's the, that's the problem with this girl. She can't drop it too early because then it's like, oh, you're presumptuous.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Well, maybe she's being presumptuous and people aren't necessarily hitting on her, but that's probably not true. I think it's, it's way harder to be an attractive girl
Starting point is 00:13:04 than I'm allowing right now she probably does get hit on constantly i remember being having like girlfriends and just watching them get hit on yeah over and over and over and over and it must it must be awful they're like constantly every single day you're getting attention from people you don't want it from i don't have to deal with that it's sort of like being famous like instead of famous if you're just pretty then that's the same amount of attention right and people like who are totally not in your league will just come up and be like so what's going on you're like i don't want to talk to you i don't even not in your league i mean like some ugly weird dude will just sit next to her on the bus and be like so you're riding the
Starting point is 00:13:43 bus you learn the chinese where are you going to china like yo i don't have to have a boyfriend to not want to talk to you she doesn't need to be like i have a boyfriend she just needs to be like fuck off can't she just be mean or cold or or uh yeah non-friendly yeah isn't i think that would be my advice don't be don't say i have a boyfriend, but just be mean. I guess that's where the stereotype of pretty girls being mean comes from, though. Yeah, maybe you have to be. Oh my gosh. We just uncovered... We unlocked the code.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Pretty girls are mean because they have to be. Not because they actually are. Sorry, I'm going to go to my room and rub one out. You're already rubbing one out here. All right. At least let me finish in private. You're already squeezing a chub. Chubbing a squeeze.
Starting point is 00:14:32 So is that the idea? Just be mean? I guess so. And I will say that I want to at least take back my – Oh, my God. I didn't want to – of course, I sort of lambasted her and I didn't. I didn't realize she was that hot. I didn't realize she was a fucking smoke show.
Starting point is 00:14:52 A dime. An Australian dime. I think it's tough to be, it's tough to be a girl. Yeah, it really is. So, you're, you're allowing her to be cold, mean, angry to strangers? Yeah. And I'm allowing her to say that she mean, angry to strangers? Yeah. And I'm allowing her to say that she gets hit on too much because even though it sounds like an obnoxious problem, you know what?
Starting point is 00:15:11 It's probably true. It is. Sure. We'll allow it. All right. That's it. Next. F this.
Starting point is 00:15:19 F this. Whoa. Another girl. Wait. Yes, it is. All right. Another girl. Oh, I'll name her? Yeah. Another girl. Wait. Yes, it is. All right. Another girl. Uh, oh, I'll name her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Um, Sandede Candide. Sandede Candide. She's a past tense name. Like hunted. Uh, all right. Is there any name that actually ends in E-D? Yeah. Okay, cool. Just you know i'm not
Starting point is 00:15:47 gonna ask for any examples the name is ed yes very good it also starts in ed amazing it's a riddle the name is also ted ted which is more accurate all right guys, so here's the deal. My ex, who I used to be very close to, that I've dated for a long time, cheated on me, hence the ex, and went out with some girl that he cheated on me with for around a year. However, ever since they've broken up over a year and a half ago, he won't let me go and insists on us still having a relationship as friends. I've rejected him so many times, and he just won't let up. Now I'm just fed up with his persistence. Should I just let him in again?
Starting point is 00:16:30 I know that if we just be friends it'll eventually become something more because of the past. I don't want to make a bad decision though. Any advice? I'm just gonna let the echo of you reading your stupid voice fill the room wherever she is. I think we don't have to advise her because I feel like she just heard the question read back to her in a mocking enough tone. And she gets how stupid it is.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah. Or should she just let him in again? Oh, the guy that cheated on her and then went out with the girl he cheated on her with for a year. Yeah, but now after a year, he realized how good he had it, and he comes crawling back, and maybe he deserves her now. No guy ever realizes how good I had it. They just realize they haven't touched your pussy in a long time. That's what he realized. I realized I missed the way your pussy felt and the way your tits looked. So I miss everything about us.
Starting point is 00:17:30 That's not it. And now I'm just fed up with his persistence. That's the problem. A lot of guys, like the generic advice to guys is like, you know, at first it's not going to work. You got to be persistent. Like persistence is key. But I think persistence is bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I think persistence is dangerous. I feel like when it comes to girls, if they tell you slightly, like, I err on such the side of caution that if I get slightly rebuffed, I am running away in the opposite direction. Yeah, I'm anti-persistent. Well, I think there's probably a middle ground. No, I think my way is the highway. The highway out of here. And say byway. I think you, yeah, if you are rebuffed, especially if it's like an unequivocal rebuff, she's like, I don't want to be with you, and he won't quit.
Starting point is 00:18:20 But we're not advising that dude. We're advising her. Don't let that work. That's a bad tactic. Yeah, what kind of relationship is based on? I don't want to be with him, but you know what? He was persistent. Ladies and gay men, you guys have the power.
Starting point is 00:18:33 You can rebuff people. You can do this. They're going to keep on coming back and say, I know how good I had it now. Let me back in. But if you say no, if everyone says no, and then they're persistent, and you still say no, then maybe one day all that persistence will not pay off and people will stop and the world will be a happier place. But doesn't it seem like that's the classic advice? Like, you know, your mom also wasn't down to date me, but I just kept on at it until I had her.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Like, doesn't that seem familiar? Like the guy who just kept going until he wore the girl down. And it seems romantic, but it's actually sad. seem familiar like the guy who just kept going until he wore the girl down there's a difference seems romantic but it's actually sad i think that's there's persistence like persistent persistence versus passive persistence you understand what i'm saying uh all right persistent persistence is text every day waiting outside her class or work hey let's hang out hey will you go out with me like keeping up with her on facebook you see she's single Hey, will you go out with me? Like keeping up with her on Facebook. You see she's single. Like, hey, will you go out with me? Like, no. But then there's passive persistence, like our good friend Streeter Seidel, who waited patiently for the woman he loved to come into his life. And he never stopped loving her. But he also didn't constantly fucking bother her, you know? Well, Streeter's actually here. Why don't we talk to him about this? Because, yeah, why don't you join one of these microphones so we can ask you about whether or not you were actually persistent
Starting point is 00:19:52 or whether you just waited until... Well, what's the story here? I wish you guys wouldn't wake me up. Do a podcast in my room. This is super annoying. We broke in and started talking over your sleeping body. Did you hear this question? No, I was listening to tunes.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Very cool tunes over there. So we were just talking about persistence and how I think that when a guy is persistent, it's actually dangerous and bad. That when you get rebuffed, you should just quit. No, no. Bad idea. So you're saying the quit. No, no. Bad idea. So you're saying the opposite. Well, were you persistent?
Starting point is 00:20:28 You knew your now wife when you were how old? First time I met her, we were 12. Did you ask her out any times and she said no? You know, I don't think I ever officially was like, we should date. But I made a number of passes at her over the years so what was your theory the passive persistence did you hear me talk about passive persistence versus persistent persistence like no but i but i think i understand what you're saying like persistent persistence would be yeah you want like you want to be like you'd be like the sad character in a romantic comedy who's just constantly going after the hot girl with flowers and chocolates and like,
Starting point is 00:21:12 Will today be the day, my love? Like that kind of dude. That's the PP, but you really kind of want to be the PP, you know? Yeah, that's no good. But I think you can be passive. Passive persistence. That's just laying in wait. I think it's less about persistence and more about always making sure you're an option.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I think that was the trick. Yeah. It was like, I'm always here. All of the above. I'm available. So what did you do? How did you wear her down? I bowed my time.
Starting point is 00:21:44 You know what? what honestly what it was i gave up so maybe the thing is to just give up like after after a note after like 15 years of kind of being this like sad friend-zoned guy who was just always like always around and like hey you know if you need a shoulder to cry on like but that's the thing like when you get broken up with or you get dumped or you get rebuffed you you say, all right, I'm cool with it. Goodbye. And that's the best way to get at somebody is to pretend that you don't care or to actually stop caring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I think maybe she sensed that me as an option was gone at that point and was like, oh, I better move on this now. Maybe that was it. It also just could have been like she matured and realized how awesome I was. There's like a lot of, that happens to a lot of people. They don't like me at first. Yeah. Really dislike me. Also, your dick got bigger, right?
Starting point is 00:22:35 My dick, I got the surgery, yeah. I got the procedure down in the Dominican Republic to make it bigger. The DR. Yeah, some of the girth came from the infection. Yeah. A lot of it was real, too. A lot of it did. Most of it came from the infection. Yeah, some of the girth came from the infection, but a lot of it was real, too. A lot of it did. Most of it came from the infection,
Starting point is 00:22:48 and that got drained, but there's definitely a cumulative quarter inch of added thickness and mass. Yeah, I bet. Anyway, what was the question? No, it's several. We just wanted to talk to you about your persistence. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Thanks for having me on. Thanks for having me on. I'm going to go back over to the other side of the room now. Trudas Idle. Everybody. The passive persistent. So the advice for this girl is don't give in to this guy's persistent persistence. That's right.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Try to turn him into a passive persistent. That's right. I like when we get scientific, especially because we're dumb. It's like watching two kids wear lab coats and play make-believe or adult or something. You are wearing a lab coat right now. And nothing else. Should we get to the third question? I wouldn't mind it.
Starting point is 00:23:40 All right. This is a guy, a dude, finally. Right. I'm sick of all these chicks. Forget girls. It's all about us dudes. Dudes. Dudes.
Starting point is 00:23:51 That's your Tom DeLonge. Oh, shit. All that. Small fiends. Does that guy actually talk like that or did he just sing like it? I think he talks like that. That's how he talks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:04 He's just like, I want to become a senior. What is that sentence? That's like, I want to become a senior. Class is boring. That's good. Thank you. Mom. Fuck you, Mom.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Fuck you, Mom. Fuck you, Dad. You fucking fuck. Should we call this guy Tom DeLonge? Yeah. I feel weird making fun of Tom DeLonge, though, because he is my idol. Never meet your heroes.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Not that you met him. I did meet Mark Hoppus, though. Who do you like more? I never met Tom. You sure sound like you do. First name basis-ing it up. Oh oh me and t yeah oh no no no no i i get to meet that dude though uh all right hey dudes so i'm a senior dude in high school not interested in a relationship whatsoever however i think dates are just so much damn fun. So here's my question.
Starting point is 00:25:09 How do I ask a girl out without her thinking I want a relationship? Also, if she knows it's casual, can I ask good girlfriends of mine without her thinking I'm interested romantically in her? Or is that risking too much? For example, a good friend of mine just broke up with this dime he's been dating for a year and a half. Can I casually take her out once or twice? Will that piss my friend off? Will that weird out the dime? We're good friends. It seems the difference between a serious and a casual date
Starting point is 00:25:36 is so imperceptible, I'm wondering if I should even try. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, dudes. Thanks. Tom DeLong. For somebody who thinks dates are just so much damn fun, it seems like you don't know what you're doing. It is. I mean, he's in high school, but he has such an adult problem. Dating.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Specifically dating. Like, I didn't go out. I mean, I'm way on the other side. Yeah, don't compare yourself to anyone. But guys, there's such a. You are. You exist... It's not even like another end of the spectrum.
Starting point is 00:26:08 You exist in your own universe. I'm an outlier. You are so... You are such a... All right, that's enough. I already said I was an outlier. Dude. I'm just saying outlier
Starting point is 00:26:19 almost sounds positive in a way, so I just want to make sure that everyone knows it's negative. You're not actually cutting the negativity. You're just saying it as you were going to anyway before I cut you off. Outlier. Yeah. Well, it's pretty sad and pathetic what you are, so I don't want us to be like, I'm an outlier.
Starting point is 00:26:38 No, yeah, I know. And what I did was I cut you off so that you wouldn't say stuff like sad or pathetic. And you're speaking in a normal tone right now as if're like hearing what i'm saying and taking it to heart but the words themselves are the same oh buddy i'm just saying i just don't want it no no i know what you're just saying because you just said it i know and i'm not going to say it again except just to mention you i won't say anything else i i suffice to. It was suffice. It was very suffice. It was suffice, but it wasn't succinct. It was sufficient and it was proficient.
Starting point is 00:27:10 You're a loser. You're a loser, Blumenfeld. I feel like I am back in high school. But even guys that sleep with girls in high school, they don't go out on dates a lot of dates, do they? Don't they just party and get wasted and hook up? Yeah, I don't think it's a very adult problem for a high schooler to have. Yeah. Well, you know, my first article ever published on college humor was I think called the lost art of the first date. Wow. The lost art of the date or something like that. It's like how people don't go on dates anymore. Right. And I think, yeah think yeah it's it's weird to navigate that world as an 18
Starting point is 00:27:47 year old right it feels like it's too early i feel like this is a problem almost i have which is like i don't want to go out with someone because like then it's like what if i'm only mildly interested in them i don't want to lead them on and then create a weird situation later so weird to me you don't want to go out and show someone a good time you're you're putting that on them to think that they want to make something serious out of it but let's say i meet someone at a party who's like yeah she was pretty cute and she's like yeah yeah she didn't fall in love with you you're not leading her on she thought you were pretty cute too and maybe it'd be fun to go out with you but i don't want i don't want to go out with someone that's i'm lukewarm about why not i
Starting point is 00:28:23 don't know i'm just like not interested to have a full night with someone that i'm you would rather sit here by yourself yes that's more fun yeah then maybe having a good time maybe actually coming well i don't know if i would well that's like a whole different dilemma is like what if i go out with someone that i'm not very interested in and then we end up hitting it off or not not end up hitting it off, but we end up getting attached physically and I have sex with her and then I become even less interested, isn't that mean? Shouldn't I just cut it off right before we ever go out? No, because you're – you are – by doing that, you're in charge of everyone's feelings. You're not giving her any feelings.
Starting point is 00:29:03 So what? I'm supposed to open myself up just to be nice to her? No, you're supposed to just feel your own feelings. And then she can do whatever the fuck she wants. If you are like, hey, I'm lukewarm on this person, but I'd like to see what's up. You don't apply any feelings to her. She may or may not want to go out with you, but this is all still happening in your world. You go out.
Starting point is 00:29:22 You guys get a drink. You're having fun. This is great. You're your world. You go out. You guys get a good drink. You're having fun. This is great. You're not applying any feelings to her. Because in your mind, I know you're thinking like, oh, shit, I'm making her fall in love with me. I don't want to have an uncomfortable conversation about how I don't want to be with her. But just don't even think about that. Just think, I'm having fun.
Starting point is 00:29:37 You guys start kissing. You're like, okay, cool. I'm having fun. She's having fun. Who knows the adventure she's on in her mind? She might just want to fuck somebody and just never talk to you again and get back together with her ex. And she just wanted to go out one time to see
Starting point is 00:29:49 what else was out there and get some weird dick in her. And then that's... I have a weird dick. I know, dude. You've seen it. I've seen it. It's small. It takes like a right turn. Yeah, right turn. Heart right. 90 degrees. And that's what I'm saying. You don't need to apply any feelings to her. You don't need to apply any feelings to her you don't need to
Starting point is 00:30:06 you're like worried about hurting somebody I'm not worried about hurting somebody I'm just lukewarm about them getting the wrong impression or doing something but like just do it for you you don't have it's okay to be lukewarm on somebody it's okay to sleep with someone and not want anything more
Starting point is 00:30:22 as long as you're never misrepresenting yourself. So I meet someone who's like, oh, she's pretty cute and she's fine and friendly. And I'm like, I don't really want to hang out with her anymore. You think that's a bad attitude? I guess if you don't know, I mean, as long as you're being true to yourself, but don't say, I don't want to hang out with her because she's just going to like want to hang out more and more. And then I'm going to have to cut her off. Well, what about this guy?
Starting point is 00:30:47 This guy should – he should – I'm giving him this advice too. Just like you don't need to set the precedent for the date before the date. Just go out and that's fine. That's all you need to do. Except he does say, can I ask out a good friend of mine who just broke up with his dime that he's dead? No, of course not. No, don't do that, you idiot. You can't go out with your friend's ex-girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Especially not on two casual dates. Yeah. What is this thing that he likes going out on dates but doesn't like? Does that mean he likes having sex or not even that? He just likes to hang out with girls. Yeah, he likes one-on-one time. I don't think it is. I think this is pre-hooking up. Yeah, it doesn't sound
Starting point is 00:31:24 like it's sex sex. He likes going out on first dates. Right. And then second dates, and then that's it. Which is, I guess, weird to me, but whatever. But should he do that? Should he tell the girl, like, by the way, I only want to go out with you once or twice? No, because that's weird. And then when the girl wants to go out for a third time and you don't want to, what do you say?
Starting point is 00:31:41 Well, he shouldn't be starting anything with the attitude that i will only have two dates why don't you just have the attitude this girl's cool i'll go out with her once and see if i want to again and then you go out with her a second time and then see if you want to again and see if and by the way the whole entire time you should be seeing if she wants to again and again and again and if you do then good and if you don't then that's okay you just be honest and say i don't want to see you again. I don't want to hang out tonight. Or you can just never respond to her texts anymore.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Say like, hey, I can't tonight. Maybe sometime next week. You grow aloof and you grow distant. And then she gets the hint. That's the modern day breakup. And I think that's fine too. You grow so distant. That's going to happen both ways.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Of course it's going to happen both ways. I think it's a beautiful thing. I think there's an art form to it. I think you've perfected the art form. Yeah. I think you're the master of the art form. I don't have a single ex-girlfriend. Just a bunch of girls that are wondering why I never texted them back.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I grow so distant, I become a dot so far away that I ultimately disappear. I am a lone star in a galaxy alone, far, far, far away, then I ultimately disappear. I am a lone star in a galaxy alone, far, far, far away. There is nothing in my orbit, and my life stopped burning long ago. I am more than a supernova.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I am a black hole, a black hole of despair. I'm lonely. I don't know what to tell this guy. I'm lonely and sad. I am this guy. I am a loser. I am Queens Boulevard. I'm lonely. I don't know what to tell this guy. I'm lonely. I'm sad. I am this guy. I am loser. I am Queens Boulevard. I am a piece of shit. I'm a fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I'm a piece of shit. Relax, dude. I am relaxed, dude. I am relaxed. I finally figured out what I am and it's a piece of shit. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:22 That's quite enough. You got that. Let's not do any more self-reflection on the podcast. My entire life I say, I wonder what's wrong with me. I wonder who I am. And then I find out and it's actually, oh, nothing's wrong with you because you are no one. How can something be wrong with nothing?
Starting point is 00:33:37 Yeah. I'm not even here. Hey, I'm not an asshole. I don't exist. And that's so much better and worse at the same time. I hate myself. Break time? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Hey. Whoa. I just emerged from that. I was so deep in hosting mode. Now I'm finally ready to be myself now that it's the break. We want to make the announcement that uh we joined quote unquote a podcast network um what does that mean it means we fucking made it dude huzzah for us we joined a podcast network thank you all for the support we don't need it anymore now we get paid
Starting point is 00:34:22 no matter what our listenership is. That's exactly incorrect. Really? Yeah. I was positive that once we moved to Podcast One that we are just millionaires. Yeah, you're like a college athlete who gets drafted to the NBA and then just stops working hard. That's me. Yeah, yeah, it should be the opposite. Well, I never started working hard. I resent the implication. That I ever worked anything hard. Yeah, we joined Podcast One, which is one of the biggest podcasting networks on the internet. Which means the world. To me.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And you. Why did we do it? Great question. Because we wanted money. Well, okay. As long as we're being truthful, we do like money. Yeah. But it wasn't just that.
Starting point is 00:35:04 We met with them, and they were very nice and friendly. They're cool people and they know what they're doing. They have a team of people working around the clock for podcasts like ours and Adam Carolla's and bigger websites, or bigger podcasts than ours. So we're excited.
Starting point is 00:35:20 And smaller podcasts than ours. If you can imagine. Or maybe we might be the smallest. Yeah. No, we are. We definitely are. Todah. No, they assured us we were somewhere in the middle. Also, because it's a network, we can have more exposure. They can put our podcast on their site, podcastone.com.
Starting point is 00:35:39 We can be guests on other podcasts. We can grow our listenership. And also, we don't have to sell our own ads anymore, which is very helpful and frees up a lot of time for ourselves to be able to do other stuff. Yeah, I'm glad I don't have to sell any more ads because now I'm just a free spirit. Yeah, well, that one was more for me. Yeah, but I would say that I was supportive in the endeavor. You did respond to the emails that I forwarded to you And you said, cool, sounds good, or just THX Sometimes you wouldn't respond at all
Starting point is 00:36:12 And you would know that that was a THX Yeah, a pat on the back If I had a problem with something, I would have responded And I also did my part in taking half the money Yes, that's true, cashing the checks Yeah Although I did set up a direct deposit for you because you started to complain about
Starting point is 00:36:27 how the checks were sort of weighing down your wallet at a certain point. I wasn't cashing them. Yeah. I was not cashing the checks. He said it was a waste of time and effort. I'd like to say that I hope that Podcast One brings us lots of new listeners.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Yeah. But more than anything- Fuck those guys. Wait, whoa. I still ride with my day ones. Holy shit. Y'all remember killing yourself at a Starbucks? Podcast won the first.
Starting point is 00:36:51 If I were you ever, you guys are my babies. Oh, you're saying. And I will never forget you. So you're saying fuck the listeners we've gotten because of Podcast One. Fuck the new ones. Fuck the new ones. You make new friends, but keep the old. Some are silver.
Starting point is 00:37:09 The others are gold. Yeah. I say fuck that rhyme. No new friends. Just the old. The new ones could have been silver, but the old ones are gold. Unless the new ones stick around for so long, then they become old. And then we start to like them again.
Starting point is 00:37:29 And now fuck the future listeners that haven't even started listening to us yet. And especially fuck those ones that have been there from the very beginning. It's like, what are you even doing here still, dude? You're starting to alienate everybody. The party's over. You ever see that motherfucker who comes to the party, he's the first one to show up, and then the party's over. And he's like, oh, should we order bagels? It's almost five in the morning. Maybe we should get everyone food.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Can I help clean up? Like, yo, dude, get out. You know what I'm saying? So who are those people? Those are the day ones. The ones that you just said that you ride with. And I do ride with them up until a point. You're bipolar.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Yes. Yes. So that's why we joined Podcast One. What's going to change? Not a damn thing. Don't you worry, babies. Hopefully very little. Actually, the last couple episodes were technically part of the Podcast One network.
Starting point is 00:38:18 So if you haven't noticed anything yet, that's sort of the minimal changes that are going to be happening. We're going to have ads before the shows, as usual, and then maybe, just maybe, an ad in the show. But don't hang up yet. Don't yell at us, all right? Relax, because it also means we'll have more episodes. For example, today's a Thursday episode. We're going to have more of those thanks to Podcast One. They're going to be able to give us advertisers that we couldn't get otherwise, like Audible.com last episode. We're going to have more of those thanks to Podcast One. They're going to be able to give us advertisers that we couldn't get otherwise, like audible.com last episode.
Starting point is 00:38:49 So if there are going to be more ads, there's at least going to be more shows. So it's going to be more content in the long run. I assure you, it is a good thing. It's a happy, happy little universe we've created because we get money. Yeah. that's it they they get uh they get ads yeah they get money they get you guys get more content right i think that's it's a triple win situation oh and then the advertisers get a good good publicity quadruple win because i really think that we we nail the advertising thing yeah yeah we got the pre-rolls down pat. That's right. And so, oh yeah, one other small change. If you listen to our show on Facebook, that's going to stay the same. If you listen to it on ifireyoushow.com or seesthecheese.com, that's also not going to be affected.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Or if you subscribe on iTunes and listen to the show on the go, also completely the same. The only difference is we're no longer going to be uploading it to SoundCloud the night before. But we're going to be uploading it to the Podcast One site. So if you bookmarked our SoundCloud page because you wanted to listen to it as soon as possible before it even gets released on iTunes, you can now find us on PodcastOne.comcom and you can look for our page on there. We're sad to leave SoundCloud, but the show will go on. So that's that, I think.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Onward and upward. I think that's it for the housekeeping. Oh, also, we're going to have maybe a little thumbnail on the logo of our podcast. And not to be too forward but i think you and i were maybe considering getting podcast one tattoos uh that is very forward i was not actually considering doing that i think we should get a matching tattoo not necessarily podcast one sure of course not maybe uh and if i were you were a jake in the mirror match a tattoo with
Starting point is 00:40:44 our names on it well Well I'll get your name you get mine. If I actually not that I'm going to but if I made that deal would you do that? I think I would get something like I would get your glasses tattooed on my on my nipples. So it's like my chest is your
Starting point is 00:41:00 I would get the penguin suit tattooed on myself. If I did what? If you got something penguin suit tattooed on myself if i did what um if you got something for me tattooed on you well what's your thing what could i get i don't know i don't have a thing like you like your glasses so you would you would actually get my glasses tattooed on your arm and then if somebody asks you like oh that's like it's my best friend yeah that's my guy right there we like make videos together make videos together before he killed himself. Would you kill yourself?
Starting point is 00:41:26 Well, I don't know. It depends on what type. Dude, if you ever died, I'd absolutely get your glasses tattooed right on my chest. If I ever died, regardless of how it happens? Yep. So like if I die before you, you're getting a tattoo of my glasses on your chest. I promise you that. Which glasses?
Starting point is 00:41:42 Those ones that you're wearing right now. These ones. Yep. So what should I get tattooed if you were to die? Maybe a little crab claw. What? The pinch. You asshole.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I don't know. I don't have a thing. What's your thing? I don't have one, dude. Stop reminding me. You're warby parker right now which is why i'm gonna get one and it'll be both of our glasses yes um yeah i don't know maybe i'll wear like not you're so nondescript i used to have the yellow belt remember a yellow belt tattoo the worst tattoo i could have right behind the sun
Starting point is 00:42:26 you have on your ankle you could get this the tribal sun tattoo yeah your tattoo on my body that's what it'd be you'd have to get the butterfly oh yeah i think that's what it is your defining characteristic is something you added to yourself right whereas mine is something i was born with your glasses my glasses okay my. Okay. My poor vision, at least. Should we get to one last question? Let's try. We owe it to podcast one. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Here we go. This one's pretty funny. Last dude of the show named Cagnid Son. Cagnid Son Cagnid Son Yeah He's a martial artist It's always E.D. What does that say? I have to stop living in the past, I guess
Starting point is 00:43:14 Alright Hey guys, I just finished my first year of college And moved back home for the summer It's great to see my parents again But that being said, I have one major issue My mom sleeps on the couch in our living room every night, and my dad sleeps in the master bedroom. Worse yet, my mom goes to bed at 8 p.m. every night because she has to get up at 4 a.m. for her job. My problem is this. In order to move anywhere in my house, you have to walk through or past the living room, and my mom
Starting point is 00:43:41 is an extremely light sleeper. One heavy footstep and she'll instantly wake up and start yelling at me, saying that she won't be able to go back to sleep and that she's going to fall asleep driving to work and crash her car. Am I a diva and an ass for thinking that this is unreasonable? I mean, I can't even get up for a glass of water without being put on a midnight blast by the woman who gave me life. Should I ask my mom to sleep somewhere else? Should I find somewhere else to live this summer? Any advice would be much appreciated. Todah.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Cagneyed son. Cagneyed. Am I a diva in an ass? First of all, it's not your house. It's their house. You're living in their house, and you're waking them up, regardless of the situation,
Starting point is 00:44:24 and you're wondering if it regardless of the situation and you're wondering if it's unreasonable to ask this homeowner not to sleep wherever she you're taking the mom's side yeah imagine if someone crashed at your place and yelled at you or got mad at you if they woke you up that's what's happening wait what you're a homeowner right and there's this guy that's crashing with you for the summer for free not you're not you're not charging them and they're eating all your food that's ostensibly what's happening then you're sleeping because you have to wake up at 4 a.m so that you can afford this house and this person keeps waking you up and then he's like is it unreasonable to ask uh you to change where you sleep?
Starting point is 00:45:07 Well, she shouldn't be sleeping in the living room if she's such a light sleeper. How dare you? Ms. Hurwitz, I apologize for this rude behavior. I don't think it's crazy if you're a light sleeper and you sleep at 8 p.m.? Yeah, 8 p.m. till 4 a.m. So he's a prisoner in his room from 8 p.m. till 4 a.m. So he's a prisoner in his room from 8 p.m. until 4 a.m. Yeah, and if he feels like a prisoner, he can leave. I suggest that you let her sleep in your room and you sleep in the living room.
Starting point is 00:45:36 How's that? That's fair, but at the same time, I want to scold him. What was I about to say? Oh, yeah. His second option. He said, should I ask my mom to sleep somewhere else? Should I find somewhere else to live this summer? Yeah, the second one.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Find somewhere else to live this summer. Nice. Yeah. Well said. Leave. Well said, asshole. Goodbye. You're a mama's boy.
Starting point is 00:45:59 That's your problem, dude. You would never want to upset your mommy. Oh, sorry, mommy. I didn't mean to wake you up, mommy. I'll stay in my room all problem, dude. You would never want to upset your mommy. Oh, sorry, mommy. I didn't mean to wake you up, mommy. I'll stay in my room all summer, mommy. Dude, grow a fucking pear. Nut up. I don't live at home.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Huh? I don't live at home. Yeah, right. You know where I live. I live with you. Okay. You got my glasses tattooed on your chest. I love them, dude.
Starting point is 00:46:24 That's actually a pretty chill tattoo. Maybe I'll get it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I hope you die soon. What? Just because I think it'd be a chill tat. Why don't you get the tat while I'm still alive to appreciate it?
Starting point is 00:46:36 It's not the same. Of course it's the same. It's not the same. It's better, actually. All right, that's it. I say move out. Jake says switch rooms with your mommy. I just say address the situation in a – you don't have to be like, mom, I hate this.
Starting point is 00:46:52 But just be like, hey, this is really tough for me. And you guys, I'm sure she's a reasonable woman. Yeah, she sounds very reasonable. What with the yelling at her son. She wakes up yelling. Yeah, that's – I think that's a tough situation to deal with and I think it deserves to be talked about in the light of day, okay? Obviously she's going to be cranky when she's waking up if she's got to
Starting point is 00:47:09 be at work. Yeah, that 4 a.m. job. 4 a.m. wake-up call is obviously tough. She has a newspaper route. But you know what I say when she gets home from work, you give her a nice little coffee, you say, Mom, can we talk about something? This summer is, you know, it's going to be tough for me. I would love if we could find a solution to this problem and i think she'd appreciate it i think she would respect you and i
Starting point is 00:47:29 think i would respect you well there you have it what else is there to say uh if you find yourself in your own sticky situation you want our help for whatever reason that email address again is if i were you show at gmail.com we start and end every episode with a custom, uh, made, uh, theme song from our talented fans. That first one was from thunder,
Starting point is 00:47:52 the covers. And this last one is from somebody who calls himself street lamp. See you Monday. If I were you, show me the picture of you. Hope they didn't tell you anything too severe. I wouldn't really worry though. Just don't. Worry though. Just don't. Worry though.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Worry though. I ain't giving it a go. After the outro. Outro. Outro. Outro. After the outro, outro, outro, outro.

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