SERIALously - 174: Aubreigh Wyatt’s TRAGIC Death, Idaho 4 Murder Book, Karen Read Motion for Dismissal & Diddy Grand Jury
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Hey, true crime besties. Welcome back to an all new episode of Serialist Leave.
Hey everybody, welcome back to an all new episode of Serialistly with Annie Elise, headline highlights edition.
We're breaking down everything that's going on in the true crime world this week, and
not just the breaking cases and the case updates, but we're actually going to be doing a mini
deep dive
into a case on here as well.
And the reason why is so many of you
not only have been requesting this,
but it is now going viral on TikTok
because the mother in this case
is essentially being silenced.
And so, so many people are calling to different creators,
different podcasters, asking them to help be the voice,
get this story heard, have people
hear it. And if you know what I'm talking about, you know that I'm talking about Aubrey Wyatt.
Now if you've never heard that name and you haven't heard that case, let me just give you a little
bit of a trigger warning. You're probably going to become enraged. It is one of the more heartbreaking
cases I think that I've ever been asked to cover because it is just so cruel and so senseless. So I felt like it was important that we jump on
here, we break it down. I probably am also going to extract this portion and put it
on my YouTube channel, Tend to Life as well, just so that it has even more
visibility because I really do believe that her story needs to be told and
needs to be heard.
So we're gonna get into all of that in a minute,
but first we're gonna talk a little bit
about Saraya Ongharman.
Now we have some good news that we're starting with.
You may have heard us talk about this case a few weeks back.
It was a custodial interference case.
It was a lot of he said, she said,
but basically the father and his fiance
fled internationally to Mexico with this young girl. So Saraya has been
safely located and she is now back on U.S. soil. So for a quick recap for those of you who are new
to this case, back on June 3rd, two-year-old Saraya was not returned to her mother in Pullman,
Washington after a scheduled custody visit with her father. His name is Aaron. A couple days prior
to that, Aaron's fiance, Nadia, was supposed to go on a trip with her family to His name is Aaron. A couple days prior to that, Aaron's fiancee, Nadya,
was supposed to go on a trip with her family to Italy. But before she even boarded the
plane, she said that she had to go to the bathroom, she ended up leaving the airport,
leaving all of her stuff at the gate, and then her family reported her as missing.
Now after Aaron didn't return Saraya, police announced that they had a warrant for his
arrest for custodial interference. Then they said that they thought that Nadya, Aaron,
and Saraya were all three together and headed to Mexico.
So the FBI got involved
and it became an international manhunt.
During this, parents were speaking out
on behalf of the biological father
saying that the mother was unfit
and he was left with no choice but to take her
and get her away, get his daughter away from the mother.
Yet the mother was doing interviews and speaking out
saying she was just pleading for her daughter's safe return.
We don't really know what the truth of the matter is in this situation, but we do know
that finally this week, police said that all three of them were found in Santa Ana, Mexico
at a checkpoint.
They were then handed over to the US Customs and Border Protection and they were all separated.
Aaron, the dad, is now being held in the Santa Cruz County Detention Center in Arizona while
he awaits extradition back to Washington.
And Nadia, the fiance, was deported back to the U.S. and she has now been reunited with
her parents.
As for little two-year-old Saraya, authorities said that she was in the custody of Arizona
Child Protective Services.
However, a family member did post photos and videos of Saraya on social media and says that she has since been reunited with her mother.
Nadia's parents released a statement that she's the fiancee, remember, and said
that she was found on July 4th and then voluntarily went back to her parents and
that she actually too is recovering from her entire ordeal. They said she's at a
secure private location just kind of getting back to reality. They also said
that the details of the circumstances that led to her disappearance along with little Saraya remain
part of an ongoing investigation. They said that they trust that more information will be released
as deemed appropriate by the investigating agencies and hopefully that information comes to light.
But as I said it is a lot of he said she said. If in fact it is a danger that Saraya is back with her mom,
I think that that is something to consider. But again, I want to be very, very, very clear.
There is no evidence or proof indicating that. That's just what the biological father is saying and what his family is saying.
Meanwhile, the biological mother is obviously pointing the finger at him saying, no, he's a danger.
So I think while the truth is yet to be known all we can do is hope and
pray that Saraya is in safe hands and being loved and cared for properly and that hopefully
whatever the truth is in this circumstance it comes to light and the right people are held
accountable so that her well-being is you know of course first and foremost taken care of.
Speaking of well-being and getting a predator off the streets,
not that we are speaking of predators,
but we are going to speak about predator right now.
A new civil lawsuit has been filed against Diddy,
also known as Sean Combs,
also known as Puff Daddy, P. Diddy,
also known as Creepo Predator,
also known as Cassie, Abuser and Annihilator,
all the things.
Now this lawsuit, which was filed on July 3rd
by Adria English, is just one other one
of Diddy's mounting lawsuits.
Other defendants named include multiple businesses
that were owned by Diddy, that were owned by Vi Magazine,
Tamiko Thomas, and so many more.
Now, this suit claims that Adria worked at Diddy's,
quote, white parties in both the Hamptons and in Miami,
that she worked these parties from 2004 to 2009. If you're unfamiliar with the white parties, he was notorious for
having these mega blowout ragers and you had to wear all white head to toe. Sometimes they'd be
on a yacht, they'd be in a mansion, they'd of course be at these like mega mansions in the
Hamptons and it was really the who's who would be there, celebrities, influencers, you know, moguls, all sorts of things.
So she was working these parties from 2004 to 2009.
And she says that she was quote,
used as a sexual pawn for the pleasure
and benefit of others.
So apparently she started working at these parties
after she joined her boyfriend at an audition
to model for one of Diddy's clothing lines,
Sean John clothing.
At that audition, there was some sort of deal that was struck.
A deal that made it to where,
if her boyfriend was cast as a model,
she would agree to work at these white parties.
Allegedly, Adria was instructed by Diddy and Tomiko
on which bottles of alcohol and champagne
all female employees were to exclusively drink from.
And they also required her to take narcotics
that were offered to her by the guests at these parties. According to the suit, Diddy laced the liquor with
ecstasy, which is why she was forced to drink from these specific bottles. They
would allegedly say, you can't drink from any of these other bottles, none of the
employees can that are females, you only can exclusively drink from these bottles.
And according to her, that's because they were laced with ecstasy. She goes on to
say that of course she had to take those narcotics that were offered her by the
guests at the party as to not refuse them or insult them and she further
claims that she was forced to engage in sex work and even prostitution while she
was at these white parties. She included that she had to do it with somebody
named Jacob Erebov who is a celebrity jeweler. He's also named as a defendant
in the suit and the lawsuit states that she is seeking unspecified damages after suffering severe emotional distress because of all of this.
Vibe Magazine and a media company are also included as defendants in the suit because allegedly they provided financial support and marketed these parties.
In 2006, there was a photo of Adria that was put into Vibe magazine and it showed her as a guest at this party. The suit alleges that they did that intentionally to quote,
further conceal the true intentions of the event and the plaintiff employment role at the event,
all in an effort to further the goals of the defendant's illegal and criminal enterprise.
In response to her lawsuit, Diddy's lawyer is saying,
no matter how many lawsuits are filed, it will not change the fact that Mr.
Combs has never sexually assaulted or sex trafficked anyone.
We live in a world where anybody can file a lawsuit for any reason without any proof.
Fortunately, a fair and impartial judicial process exists to find the truth.
And Mr. Combs is confident that he will prevail against these and other baseless claims in court.
Now, on top of all of that, there's even bigger news with Diddy going down.
It's been reported that his attorneys were notified that he's the subject of a federal
criminal investigation now as well.
Apparently, a grand jury has been meeting in the Southern District of New York, but
the two sources who came forward about this investigation say that there is no indication
that charges are impending.
So I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens with that.
But they say that Diddy has not received a target letter, which would basically say
that the prosecutors are trying to seek an indictment.
However, New York is not required to send any target letters.
So really, nobody knows for sure what is to come and only time will tell.
But my guess is that if this grand jury has been meeting,
it is likely that an indictment is on the horizon given everything that has already happened with
his houses being raided, all the other lawsuits. We of course all saw that footage with Cassie,
that horrifying footage in that hotel. So we'll see what happens. Unfortunately, sometimes even
when celebrities are caught in the act of doing some pretty nefarious and sinister things, money
talks and people get quiet, people settle out of court, things happen.
Hopefully that doesn't happen this time.
But I do think we're now entering an era,
and we have been for the last few years,
but I think it's at a turning point now,
where people in power are finally being held accountable.
Not necessarily because people wanna make
an example out of them, but because it kind of is like,
time's up for you.
And I don't mean the time's up reference, the Me Too movement, but it's kind of them, but because it kind of is like, time's up for you.
And I don't mean the time's up reference to the Me Too movement, but it's kind of like,
people are over all of these celebrities, people in power, influencers, like having
truly the power to do some fucking disgusting things, to take advantage of people, to exploit
people.
And it's good that now finally people are standing up and not only feeling more comfortable vocalizing if things have happened to
themselves, although there's of course a plethora of people who are not
competent yet enough to speak up in certain cases, but it's also nice that
people aren't scared in the legal field to actually go after and prosecute these
people. I think it's about time that people are held accountable for their
actions. So we'll see what happens with Diddy, but we know that there's obviously a laundry list
of other people who are currently under scrutiny
and under the microscope, and we'll see.
Hopefully this kind of course corrects people's behavior
and people start to think twice
about doing disgusting things.
Speaking of doing disgusting things,
that's not, actually that's not the segue I want,
but I don't know how else to go into this next case,
because we gotta talk about Gypsy Rose.
I didn't think that I was gonna be talking
about Gypsy Rose for ever, actually.
I never thought I was gonna be talking about her again,
but here I am on the mic talking about her.
So on Tuesday, Gypsy Rose announced that she is pregnant.
She is having a baby with her boyfriend, Ken Urker.
Ken and Gypsy were previously engaged back in 2018
while Gypsy was still in prison,
but then they ended their relationship.
And once they ended it,
eventually Gypsy ended up marrying a man named Ryan.
And after her release,
it wasn't too long before they separated
and filed for divorce.
After the separation, Gypsy and Ken rekindled things
and they started rebuilding their relationship
and now she's pregnant.
Now the divorce she was in has been pretty rocky
and there's been a lot, a lot, a lot of shade
thrown back and forth via social media,
primarily on TikTok, but a lot of shade
between her ex Ryan, Gypsy,
and now her new rekindled boyfriend, fiance, husband, guy Ken.
And it's kind of been a lot of back and forth over the last month. It's been a little bit of a mess
to say the least. They're all claiming all different things. They're throwing allegations back and
forth, but it's all in the public eye, which okay, if you want to air all your dirty laundry, do you?
Who am I to judge? But it does feel a little bit petty. But now Gypsy's pregnant.
And in a nine minute video, she announced her pregnancy.
She talked about how excited she is for her new baby.
She mentioned wanting to be everything
that her mother wasn't, because as I'm sure you know,
her mother had Munchausen's by proxy.
She made Gypsy incredibly sick, ill, disabled,
all different things while she was growing up,
which then of course resulted in Gypsy plotting her murder.
And we'll see. Hopefully this go-round is better for Gypsy.
Hopefully she's able to harness all of the love and care that she didn't receive as a child,
and she's able to put that to good use to her own child.
And I would imagine, I'm gonna call it here, and I'm gonna say it here first,
there will be a reality show.
It hasn't been announced, but I'm calling it, guys.
There is going to be something,
and let's see, what would the title be?
Like, Growing Up Gypsy, or Growing Gypsy,
or I don't know, something like that.
But I'm guessing there will be some sort of documentary
or reality show, probably on Oxygen, maybe A&E,
where it documents her whole pregnancy, the delivery,
I would guess there's gonna be cameras
in the hospital room when she delivers,
and then showing her parenting journey.
And if there isn't something in the works already,
but you're an executive at a production company listening,
you're welcome.
No, I'm just calling it.
I think that's definitely gonna go down.
Speaking of people exploiting cases,
that is actually the perfect segue for this next case. It's not a production company that's
exploiting this case, but it's an author. Because recently a new book has been published and it's
all about the Idaho Four Murders. This book was written by Howard Blum, who worked as a contributing
editor at Vanity Fair. Over the years, he's written about 16 books, but his latest one is called,
"'When the Night Comes Falling,
"'Irrequiem for the Idaho Student Murders.'"
Now, before I go into what this book is outlining,
I do wanna mention he did an article about the murders,
probably, gosh, when was it?
The murders took place in November,
I believe the article came out maybe the following January,
and in it, he was claiming to have a lot of insider
knowledge about how the blood smelled in the house when the police first got
there, certain details about the 911 call. Come to find out he's not the most
reliable and he kind of got a lot of crap for those articles that he had
published but now he's published a book and everybody's talking about this book.
It is like making its way through the media circuit. And in this book, Howard lays out the quote,
timeline of the murders.
He claims that Maddie Mogan was in fact the target
and that she was the one killed first.
I don't know if that's true or not.
I have been saying from the beginning
that I do believe Maddie was the target.
I believe he went in there to kill Maddie.
This is just my opinion guys.
That he didn't know Kayleigh was gonna be there
and spending the night.
He had no choice but to kill Kayleigh as well because she was sharing a room with Maddie.
Then when he was exiting to leave, Zana came out of her bedroom.
He had no choice but to kill her. Then he of course killed Ethan by extension.
Then he was so exhausted from doing a quadruple murder,
which was not planned for and takes an incredible amount of strength, that he just walked by the surviving roommate Dylan in a daze, beelined it out the sliding door,
and left. Again, that is not any concrete proof. That is just what I've been saying from the
beginning and what my views are on it and just based on the timeline, the details we do know,
and we'll find out when the trial comes what they put forward. But anyway, he talks about
how Maddie was the target and how she was killed first and he also talks about how Brian's dad became increasingly suspicious of Brian and even claims that Brian's sister confronted her dad about her concerns of Brian being involved.
But like I said, there's been a lot of backlash on this book and Howard claims that he got all of this information from reliable sources
and he says that it was because he was quote on the scene early before the gag orders were put in
place. And when he did that, he established these relationships with credible sources, reliable
sources, and that's how he has all of these details. He says then he used all of that information that
he has gained over time to write his book and to come up with his timeline. Take a listen.
to write his book and to come up with his timeline. Take a listen.
So in the book, you write that you believe
that one of the roommates was the target.
Talk to us about that, please.
Sure.
You know, first, we should state for the record
that the prosecution and the defense
have stated categorically that there was no interaction
between the suspect,
Brian Kohlberger, and any of the victims either in person or in social media.
That's what they say to the record. I think the reality is a little subtler. On
the night of the murders, the suspect enters through the kitchen door on the
second floor of the house. There are two bedrooms on either side. He could
have gone into either of those bedrooms if he was just on a murder spree. However, he goes up the
stairs to the third floor that enters the bedroom of Maddie Mogin. He finds him in that bedroom.
McKaylee is there too. She's just come in for the weekend to show off her new car.
come in for the weekend to show off her new car. I believe he didn't expect to see her there.
He is obsessed, I believe, with Maddie. Did he ever speak with her? Did he meet her when she was a waitress at the Mad Greek restaurant where he went to at times because of the vegetarian or
vegan food there? I think that's what happened. We saw her, he was a man who obsessions come easily to him.
He was a heroin addict. He's a man who decided to reinvent himself. He lost 125 pounds, turned his
body into a fortress. But whatever reason about Maddie is, you show her picture there, her
exuberance, her blind good looks, her vivaciousness, she captivated him. And I think he felt
ultimately that the world was just too impossible place for him
to exist where there were such people in it and he was not part
of what was happening. There have been many police body cam
videos showing of the parties that the young students gave. And I think he was on the,
he witnessed those events from the outside. He was on the periphery of those events. And that was a
constant rebuke to him. And he focused on Maddie and everyone else. And that grim, horrible night
was really just collateral damage. Wow. It's an interesting theory, Howard.
It really is. And who knows?
Maybe at the time of trial, we'll see the prosecution
lay out something similar.
Perhaps there was one intended target
and then things spun out of control.
If Brian Coburger is the killer, obviously cloaked
in the presumption of innocence legally.
Tell me, Howard, how much of your book is fact?
How much of it is fiction? All of the book is fact. At several points in the book,
I theorize about what people are saying or thinking. But the basic elements, the police procedurals,
how the killer is caught, the background of
the young students, and I also want to say the subtitle of the book is A Requiem of the Idaho
Stephen Rearards. And this book is meant to show these young students' lives to show what they
might have been. I want it to be a poignant and affecting portrait as well as a suspenseful drama."
But the truth of the matter is, the book is full of complete speculation. Law enforcement has not
said that Maddie was a target, nor have they released a full timeline of who was killed in what order.
Howard opened his book up by writing from Dick Bryan's dad's perspective, and also wrote about
how the murders changed the victim's families forever, which obviously would change their families forever,
right? However, he has openly admitted that he has not spoken with any of the
families. Not to mention there hasn't even been a trial yet to go over all of
the facts in this case, so essentially many people believe that this book is
all fiction, including Matty's own family. Matty's family released a statement
saying, Mr. Blum's family released a statement saying,
"'Mr. Blum's book in our opinion is fiction.
"'We have never spoken with him
"'about the contents of his book.'
"'As a seasoned writer, he has learned to write in a way
"'that as long as he claims his information
"'came from a source, he is protected.
"'But all this book does is tell a story,
"'a version made up by him relying on sources
"'that have no responsibility or duty to speak the truth.
And I just have to say, I get it. A lot of people are talking about this case.
A lot of people are fascinated by this case. They want to know the truth.
They want to know the who, the what, the where, the why, everything.
Because when massacres and horrific, horrific murders like this take place,
people are trying to make sense of it.
And the only way to make sense of it is to know every single detail possible,
to try to put it together.
So everybody's doing that.
Everybody's guilty.
Creators, myself, Nancy Grace, outlets,
everybody's guilty of it.
But to publish a book that is not only portrayed
from a point of view of Brian's dad opening the book up,
but then to go into such great detail
and harness it as fact, It feels not only reckless,
but highly, highly insensitive to the families,
to the victims' families that he claims to know so much about
yet has never even spoken with.
So I don't know, I don't know.
There's a lot of different thoughts on this.
I'm curious to know what you guys think.
And not to mention, there's still so many people
who don't even think that Brian's guilty.
So I guess we'll just have to kind of wait and see.
Speaking of not guilty, man, these segues are getting good guys.
Speaking of not guilty, or mistrial, I should say, we're going to talk about Karen Reed
for a second.
Because on Monday of this week, Karen Reed's defense team filed a motion for dismissal
on two out of the three initial charges.
The three initial charges were one, second degree murder,
two, manslaughter while operating a vehicle
while under the influence,
and three, leaving the scene of an accident
with injury or death.
This dismissal comes after the mistrial announcement
that was on July 1st,
and the defense is seeking dismissal
on the charges of second degree murder
and leaving the scene of an accident with injury or death.
In the motion, Karen's attorney, Alan Jackson,
says that the jurors started reaching out
immediately after the trial.
The first juror apparently spoke directly to defense
and said that the second degree murder
was never even on the table.
Basically, they had decided 12 to zero
that she was not guilty of second degree murder,
and also leaving the scene of an accident
causing injury or death.
The juror said that they were hung on count two.
The other two jurors mentioned in the motion did not speak directly with the defense.
Those jurors had reached out to people that they knew who each told a different person,
and then those two reached out to Karen's other attorney, David.
The consensus on that one was that once again, counts one and three were never even on the
table, but that they were hung on count two.
More specifically, one of the people who went to her other attorney had a screenshot of
a text thread in which one juror, referred to as Jur B, said it was not guilty on second
degree and it was split in half for the second charge, which was manslaughter.
Jur B said that when the judge sent them back with the instruction, the Tui Hernandez instruction,
it turned into an all-out bully match.
The third jury didn't have anything in writing, but allegedly held a Zoom meeting with friends where they shared that there was no consideration for second-degree murder
and that they were initially 6-6 on the manslaughter charge, but then they ended at a deadlock of four no and eight yes.
Now the big problem in all of this
is that the judge never pulled the jury
to see what the true results were,
which I've heard that Massachusetts isn't a polling state
and that could be why.
The defense claims that they were never even given
the opportunity to request polling,
but because the judge basically read the letter
calling the mistrial and that was that, but there the judge basically read the letter calling the mistrial
and that was that. But there could have been a split verdict and if what her attorneys
claim the jurors are saying is true, then she would have been acquitted on those two
charges and she couldn't be tried again on those two charges based on the double jeopardy
law. Now after Karen's team filed the motion for dismissal, the judge ordered that the
list of jurors will be impounded for 10 days if not
extended. And basically in her filing she was just saying that the list should not be made public at
this time, that it puts things at risk, so they're locking it down. So 10 days, maybe it'll be
extended. However, then on Wednesday morning, the defense attorney Allen filed another affidavit
saying that a fourth juror came forward on Monday. They also were stating that they were all in agreements
on count one and three.
That juror said that they had actually discussed
telling the judge about it,
but they weren't sure if they were allowed to
because they believed that they had to come to a resolution
on all of the counts before they could or should report
any verdicts on any of the counts.
When asked if the other jurors would agree
with the not guilty verdicts, the juror told Allen,
every one of us will agree and acknowledge that we found her not guilty of counts one and three,
because that is what happened.
So it's honestly very up in the air at this point as to what's going to happen next.
Will the jury end up being brought back in and be pulled? Will those two charges be dismissed?
I mean, it's all just a waiting game now to see what happens.
But in other
news, on Monday, Trooper Proctor was suspended without pay. And on the same day that the mistrial
happened, he was relieved of duty with the Massachusetts State Police. At that time, they
transferred him to a field services division in South Boston, but on Monday he had a hearing where
he was suspended without pay. An internal affairs investigation is still happening in regards to his
conduct, and once it's done done there will be a report which rules
each allegation of his misconduct either unfounded, exonerated, not sustained, or
sustained. That report will have a lot of weight in terms of what happens next
with his career as well so it's definitely going to be interesting to
see how it all plays out. Then in a bombshell Canton Select Board meeting on
Tuesday night,
it was announced that Kevin Albert has also been placed on paid administrative leave following
Trooper Proctor's testimony. Officer Kevin Albert is the brother of the owner of the home
where John O'Keefe was found dead. The Canton police chief says that Albert was put on leave
related to the testimony of trooper Michael Proctor,
the lead investigator during the Reed case. Interestingly, Albert was put on leave back on
June 13th, but it only came to light tonight. And then Chris Albert, who was Brian and Kevin's
other brother, and he's also a select man on the board, he gave a public apology.
And then a public apology from another Albert brother, Chris.
He's a select board member and a witness in the retrial
who had recent verbal arguments with people.
Despite the tremendous harassment, stress,
and anxiety that my family, extended family,
and I have been subjected to over the past 16 months,
my interactions were inappropriate.
And as an elected official,
I am held to a higher standard.
Meanwhile, the state police union is defending Proctor,
saying in a statement in part,
the decision to suspend him without pay
pending the outcome of the investigation is disappointing
because it shifts trooper Proctor's punishment
to his young family.
His children will lose access to benefits
such as health insurance.
So like I said, it's just nice that people are finally being held accountable
in anything, really in any case, in any circumstance. But I'm glad that these people
who, in my opinion, handle this investigation so poorly. I'm glad they're being held accountable
and called out and punished and reprimanded. And it'll be interesting to see if Karen gets retried and
retried for all the charges or maybe just retried for manslaughter. I wonder what's going to happen.
The hearing is set for the end of this month, so we'll see what the state decides to do. But
I wouldn't be surprised if they only charge on the manslaughter charge because they don't want to lose
the other charges and have that as a not guilty verdict, I don't know.
I think their ego is getting ahead of them,
which tell me what you think, but we'll see what happens.
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As I mentioned at the top of this episode,
over the past couple of weeks,
I have been flooded with requests to cover this story.
It's been hard to separate facts and not facts in this.
So I'm gonna be wording everything very, very carefully
just so that you can tell the difference.
So I apologize if I get redundant with
the allegedlys and all of those things. On September 4th, 2023, a 13-year-old little
girl named Aubrey Wyatt took her own life. This was after her mother says that she was relentlessly
bullied. Aubrey lived in Ocean Springs, Mississippi with her mom Heather, who was a local elementary
school teacher. She also lived with her older sister Taylor and her little brother Riker. She attended the local public school in the area, specifically Ocean
Springs Middle School. Now shortly after Aubrey's death, her mom began posting her story on TikTok.
She did this as a way to spread awareness about suicidal tendencies, about mental health,
about bullying, just really trying to generate awareness after her daughter's horrific, horrific tragic death.
Now, as Aubrey's mom has shared her story,
it has resonated with a lot of people
and she quickly amassed tons of followers.
She has openly shared the emotions that she has dealt with
as a grieving parent, the struggles that she has faced,
and through that, she included the heartbreak
of believing that Aubrey had not left any letters behind,
only recently finding letters that Aubrey had not left any letters behind, only
recently finding letters that Aubrey had written.
She found them while she was packing to move.
After she found those letters, she posted the most gut-wrenching video, which showed
her finding out that these envelopes that she found were in fact letters that Aubrey
had left.
Take a listen.
As she continued to share and create conversation, other people have also started sharing their own stories of being bullied or having thoughts of taking their own lives. I have even seen
some people say that after seeing Heather openly grieve, it made them
rethink the decision of taking their own life so that their moms and their loved ones don't
experience the same pain that Heather experienced.
But recently, Heather was ordered by a judge to temporarily shut down all of her social
media accounts.
This came after the parents of the four alleged bullies filed a lawsuit against her on behalf of their children.
This lawsuit accuses her of acting with malice
to commit slander, defamation,
and negligence against the girls.
Heather spoke openly on TikTok
to talk all about the bullying that Aubrey experienced
from fifth grade until she was in eighth grade
and took her own life.
But as open as Heather was about all of this,
she never actually outright shared
the four girls' names herself.
Other kids and people who knew Aubrey,
who loved Aubrey and wanted justice for Aubrey,
they have shared those names.
They've been very open in sharing all of it.
So people are rightfully angry about all of this,
especially since Heather wasn't just a bystander
who was watching her child be bullied.
She consistently followed up with the school.
She did everything that she felt that she could to get it to stop.
But it never did.
It happened at school, it happened on social media, outside of school,
and it even went so far that Aubrey was apparently slapped by a girl named Molly,
who people are claiming was her main bully.
She was also sexually assaulted by
a boy on school grounds. When Aubrey was in seventh grade at the end of seventh
grade, she was essayed by a student on school grounds. And yes, I emailed, yes I filed a
report, yes I did all the things things and the audacity of an assistant
principal to call my child in after I told him not to not to question my child
who had just been violated and have to answer to a man. He did it anyway.
Whole different story. Anyway, so we were ready to move forward and then at some
point my child was so intimidated and he essentially told us that we were gonna have to go in front of the whole school board.
Aubrey was gonna have to retell her story tons and tons and tons of time.
Mind you, this is a 12 year old and she was so intimidated and scared she begged me to stop
because she was so like being bullied at school now because people had things up that were like
Team Aubrey, Team This, like who do you believe?
It was absolutely disgusting.
And did the school do anything?
No.
Then, because of this, she started getting called inappropriate, disgusting, vile names
because a bully did what he did and his parents had the
audacity to defend him whatever I don't care on that part um so we were
essentially bullied into and I'm mind you I'm in the district working so I'm
scared for my job my child's scared for her reputate. We don't know what's right. What's wrong
We're assuming because this is on school grounds the school has to take care of it. Oh
That's I did it up. I'm gonna summarize this there's lots. Maybe I'll do another one on that whole story time later
Okay, so
We drop it a message
Per operational request hindsight should I've done it? No, and I'm just like, thank you for your support, even though I wasn't support.
And you know what? We're just going to let this go.
That was seventh grade. Like March of seventh grade.
Oh, here comes first day of eighth grade. And mind you, wait.
And I got the emails back. I let that man principal know that that other child cannot be anywhere near my child no
lunch no class no reset nothing her first day of eighth grade she walks in
who's in her class yeah mm-hmm she's so hysterical she runs to the bathroom, distraught.
I had to take a moment to confess to myself.
Distraught, calls me hysterical, having a panic attack.
I immediately get off the phone with her
and I call the school.
I'm at work.
Call the school, I rate, flip it out.
I'm like, go get my child out the bathroom
who's having a panic attack, but also like fix this.
Like, how do you mess this up now there have been texts shared that are allegedly
between Aubrey and her mom now i say allegedly because since heather was forced to take down
her social media i can't 100 verify that they came from her however they have been circling around
since at least april and some of them have been reposted by her friends who are still on social media.
But in these texts, which were dated back to 2020 with timestamps, Aubrey would update
her mom on what was happening all throughout her school days.
I'm going to go back and read a couple for you.
So in October of 2020, a text from Aubrey said,
Please check me out today.
It's so bad.
She went on to say that Molly is so bad and so mean
and that she was super upset.
In May of 2021, she sent another text saying,
Molly is being so mean.
Heather told her to tell the teacher and Aubrey responded,
they don't care.
She is evil.
In November of 2022, Aubrey says,
bro, Molly is being so rude right now.
Heather responds with, what is she doing?
And Aubrey says she's just rude and that she's mad at her for no reason and that it's annoying.
She later texts her mom again saying,
Sorry for the word, but Molly is being such a B.
She literally talks shit about me to everyone, in all caps.
Then, things seemed to escalate in March of 2023,
when Aubrey apparently texted her mom saying,
"'Molly slapped me across the face.'
"'Heather said, "'On purpose or on accident?'
And Aubrey responded, "'On purpose.'
"'Heather tells her to go tell the teacher immediately,
"'and Aubrey said that she was in the counselor's office
"'and that they were getting all of her stuff.
"'Heather asked what was going to happen to Molly and why she did it.
Aubrey says she has no idea and that Molly did it because she said she hated somebody as a joke.
Then she proceeded to send her mom a photo of her face.
There's another screenshot, which I believe is from the same incident, where Heather says,
Tell the counselor that I want the principal to call me.
the same incident where Heather says, tell the counselor that I want the principal to call me.
There's a Snapchat conversation that appears to possibly be
between Molly and Aubrey about the incident,
although the name was blacked out,
but in it, the person believed to be Molly
says that she got in trouble and says,
why do you cry?
I barely hit you.
And Aubrey says, name, you slapped me hard.
You might not have realized it, but you did.
Now, there were other texts that weren't time stamped,
but included the other girls in it.
One said, I'm so over it.
Ava and Peyton talk crap about me 24 seven.
I don't even talk to them.
I hear them all the time talking about me
and pointing at me at lunch.
They have no room to talk and that's all they do.
I'm truly over it.
Then there are messages that allegedly are between the girls and Aubrey. me at lunch. They have no room to talk and that's all they do. I'm truly over it."
Then there are messages that allegedly are between the girls and Aubrey. In one, it shows
a girl named Parker saying,
"...I do talk crap about you."
And Aubrey responds saying,
"...I know you do."
Followed by,
"...You talk crap about everyone."
Parker responds,
"...Yeah, and?"
Aubrey says,
"...You don't know how to treat anyone."
And Parker says, "...B bitch, yes I can.
Then there's another screenshot which appears to be a conversation with Ava.
Aubrey says, keep my name out of your mouth.
Ava responds, I'm good, that's embarrassing for you.
Aubrey says, you have no room to talk.
And Ava responds, I'll talk about you all I want.
You ain't shit, babe.
Now I went back through the guest book
from Aubrey's obituary,
and there's a post from the day after Aubrey's death
from what appears to be Parker.
And it says, I remember me, you and Kylie hung out,
and then we found kitties right outside of your house.
We told your mom and we brought them inside
and we named them and took care of them
for a couple of days.
I miss you so much. I am so sorry about everything." Then there's a second post a couple of days later by what appears
to be Peyton's dad, which says, hey baby girl, so many trips on our boat, spending the nights here
and Peyton at your house. I've watched you grow into such a beautiful person. Jesus has you now.
Heather, my heart pours out peace and love for you
all. This breaks my heart." Now in a very disturbing detail, according to Aubrey's
uncle, after Aubrey passed away one of the girls posted a picture of a doll
with a noose around its neck. That alleged picture has been circulating
social media and you can see a doll with red all over it and it appears to be
hanging.
Now it's wildly believed that the photo was taken in Molly's room because people have
matched her door and a dreamcatcher that was in the photo to a photo that she apparently
has posted previously of herself. But others have said that this doll photo was taken a couple of
months before Aubrey died. Regardless, it is a disturbing, disturbing, disturbing photo.
So now really, the question in all of this is why is the lawsuit there if there's all
this evidence, and what are they seeking out of it?
The local Sun Herald newspaper posted about the documents and said that the lawsuit states
that the parents are seeking unspecified damages to compensate them for the girls' therapy
and for any other medical bills that are caused by the emotional distress that they're suffering,
as well as punitive damages and attorney's fees.
It also says, quote,
The minor children have been receiving insulting and revolting messages from around the world attacking them,
calling them vulgar names, sexualizing them, etc.
And they've had to live in fear every day that something may happen to them, any of them, their family or their friends.
The lawsuit also addresses a photo, which I believe they're speaking about the doll photo,
saying that Heather knew or should have known that the picture was taken months before Aubrey died without any intention of mocking her.
The son, Harold, also wrote that the lawsuit says, investigators with the Ocean Spring Police Department and Jackson County Youth Court have investigated
Wyatt's claims that her daughter was bullied to death,
but found the allegations unsubstantiated.
And apparently when those claims were unsubstantiated
is when Heather said that she would post the evidence
and started sharing more proof about what happened.
But now she's been silenced and she's on the gag order.
The current court filing actually ended up being sealed,
but the order for Heather to take down
her social media was leaked.
Heather is due back in court on July 18th
to review the emergency order for social media.
It's gonna be decided then
if she can get back on social media or not.
The son, Harold, also reported that there is a second lawsuit
that has been filed by the parents
accusing Heather of slander.
I've inquired about the second lawsuit but have not received confirmation yet."
So while Heather is unable to speak, the public has now decided to be her voice.
They've continued to share Aubrey's story over the last week and also share some concerning
facts that may have contributed to the bullying continuing.
See, Molly's dad is a local assistant superintendent for the Jackson County School
District, and there have been petitions now created for him to be fired, because many
people believe that him being a superintendent is why the girls haven't really been disciplined
for their behavior. There have also been claims that Molly's aunt or close family friend
is the local DA. However, I want to be clear, I haven't been able to confirm that, so I
can't say
whether or not that is a fact or not. But some people believe that if it is true, that that is
helping the parents in the lawsuit. Now in the same post where Aubrey's uncle talked about this
doll incident, he said that the girls were sent to alternative school for 45 days. I haven't seen
that shared anywhere else, but if the bullying truly was so bad that it led to Aubrey's death,
it shouldn't have gotten to the point of a death needing to happen for the school to do something about it.
And 45 days really is not much in the grand scheme of things, if that is really all that they received.
There is also a video that has gone around that was from Molly's brother's Instagram where he directly addressed Aubrey's death.
Take a listen.
Molly and her friends killed Aubrey Wyatt.
We don't want to speak on that.
Damn, why y'all treating like that, bro? We just want to chill.
So like I said earlier, people are angry about this. They want justice for Aubrey,
this little girl who was allegedly bullied by four other girls,
bullied to where she felt like she had no other course of action but to take her own life.
There's a GoFundMe that has now skyrocketed this week.
It's raised nearly $100,000 for legal fees.
And Aubrey's mom Heather posted an update on it this week,
as it's the only platform that she's currently allowed to speak on.
In this update update she said, you guys have truly blessed our family.
The love, the support, the overwhelming amount of people backing us, screaming for justice.
For Aubrey and for me, as this week approaches, please continue to share, please continue
to support.
This week may provide some updates as well.
In addition to the donations, please reach out to the governor or to any official that
you may think can help in this situation.
Please make the calls, write letters, reach whoever you can to make this right.
If you are an attorney or you know an attorney that would like to help or add support, please
reach out to me.
I have new representation now thankfully.
Any additional support or advice especially pertaining to constitutional law or
civil rights would be amazing. We love you guys so much. And just know my baby girl would be
ecstatic to see how many people love her, how many people are fighting for her. I am honored to be
able to share my baby girl with so many amazing people. Aubrey's army or mob as some call it,
have been such a light in this dark time.
We love all of you.
So hopefully if all of this is true, there will be justice for Aubrey, coming very very
soon.
But keep in mind, while people are posting and wanting justice, there also have been
some pretty hateful things being posted in regards to the other girls, as well as many
different fake accounts popping up claiming to be those four girls which is only adding fuel to the fire. Myself and
Aubrey's family does not condone the bullying of these other four girls and
we want people and they want people to respectfully fight for justice. Please,
please be kind. Justice is good. Raising awareness is great, but do it in the
right way. Aubrey's best friend Bailey even posted a video about it, and I think that she is saying
it exactly right.
Take a listen.
Yes, I do not like Molly.
We are not friends.
This is not like me defending her anyway.
This is just what I believe in and what I think everybody should believe in.
And I'm not saying that you should, but I'm just saying like, yeah.
First off, we were trying to prevent bullying.
Yes, she did some things that were wrong.
Yes, all of those four girls did.
But us doing the same thing back isn't going to fix anything.
And it's not going to bring Aubrey back.
Stop putting death threats on the people that bullied her.
This is my best friend.
This is not what she would want.
In the most respectful way, Aubrey would not want us to go around and death threat people
whenever this is what was happening to her.
But this is worse.
Um, yes, a lot of things that Aubrey went through were very bad.
Everybody knows this.
And yes, we can spread awareness and say what these four girls did.
But doing death threats is not something that she would want at all.
I just want to come on here and say that because everybody is taking this too far.
Yes, her story needs to be spread everywhere.
I want it to be spread everywhere.
I want everybody in this whole wide world
to know the name Aubrey Page Wyatt.
But what I do not want is y'all death threatening
other people because of this.
Yes, what they did was absolutely wrong.
And I know this, everybody knows this.
But it's not right to do the same thing back to them.
So I know that today was a long one guys, but thank you so much for tuning in to another
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First thing Monday morning, brand new deep dive case,
but until then, please stay safe, take care of yourself, take care of your loved ones
and be nice.
Don't kill people.
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