SERIALously - 29: Teen Dumped Newborn Baby in the Hospital Trash?! | Disturbing Case of Alexee Trevizo

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

Welcome back to this week’s episode of SERIALously! In this episode, we are talking about an insane story that you nearly wouldn’t believe if it weren’t for the fact that the whole thing was caught on camera. Imagine being a cheerleader, in your senior year of high school, and then suddenly finding yourself in the center of viral police bodycam plastered all over the internet and the news. That’s exactly what happened to Alexee Trevizo. In her story, there are 2 versions, the truth, and a huge lie. According to police, Alexee had been keeping a secret for a long time, nine months to be exact. They believe that she knew she was pregnant, and did something awful with her baby once it was born.  Your True Crime BFF, Annie Elise  All Social Media Links: https://www.flowcode.com/page/annieelise_ About Me: https://annieelise.com/ For Business Inquiries: [e-mail] Today's Sponsors:  Master Class: Get 15% off when you go to https://www.masterclass.com/ae 

Hey true crime besties, welcome back to an all new episode of Serialistly. Hey everybody, welcome back to a brand new episode of Serialistly. With me, Annie, your true crime bestie, here to break down another crazy case for you today. Now guys, really quick actually, before we jump right in, can you just take a quick quick moment make sure you're following the podcast give it a little like five star rating and review do your thing and then we're going to get into this because this case is probably one of the most not only horrific but like bizarre cases that I've heard about in a while so I knew that I needed to jump on here. I needed to break it down for you guys. I needed to talk with my true crime besties about it because holy shit. And

just when you kind of have an idea of, oh, I know where this case is going. I've heard as much as I need to hear. Newsflash, you haven't because there is just so much craziness along the way and so much footage and kind of, I don't want to say behind the scenes, but you know, like you get like a different lens of the case from this footage to where you're like, what the fuck was even that reaction? What are they talking about? Anyways, it's crazy. So the case we're talking about today is almost completely unbelievable. and yet at the same time, it's unbelievably common. It's tragic, upsetting, and very, very confusing. Imagine this. Imagine being a cheerleader in your senior year of high school, and then suddenly finding yourself in the center of viral police body cam that is plastered all over the internet and the news. That's exactly

what happened to Alexi Treviso. And in her story, there are two versions, the truth and a huge fat lie. According to police, Alexi had been keeping a secret for a long time. Nine months to be exact. They believe that she knew that she was pregnant and she did something awful with her baby once it was born. However some aspects of this case aren't just about one girl's personal ordeal. You'd think that now in 2023 women would realize that they have so many options when it comes to unplanned pregnancies, even if they truly do find out that they are pregnant at the same time that the child is being delivered. Stories like this shine a light on how societal expectations, family pressure, fear, shame, judgment, ignorance, and immaturity can lead to tragic and deadly consequences.

Or maybe it's not that at all, and some people are just straight up evil. In Alexi's case, it led to being charged with murder. So did Alexi even know that she was pregnant? Or did she purposefully keep it a secret from everyone so that she could get rid of the baby later? Was the baby born alive or did something happen after the baby was born? In this episode, we're going to try to sift through all of the lies and hopefully get to some semblance of the truth. This is another ongoing case, so just remember everything here is alleged and backed up by court documents, and anything else is strictly my opinion. So get ready guys, and let's get into it.

The Artesia teen delivered him in secret in the hospital bathroom and left him there. Like how big is the baby? It's full-term. What? Nine months? We're getting a much clearer picture of the confusion, shock, and ultimately horror. It was a glory bloody massacre, miss. I've dealt with death before, but never like this. Right.

Lexi, have you watched the news of the girls that what they do to their babies and what they go to jail? Alexi Treviso has brown hair and brown eyes and wears glasses. She is from Artesia, New Mexico, which only has around 12,000 people. Not much is known from her childhood other than her parents divorced and she has one sister. It's believed her and her sister live with her mom and her stepdad. Alexi was in her senior year of high school where she was on the varsity cheer squad, had tons of friends, and had a boyfriend for almost three years. Alexi and her mom Rosa were very close. Even though Alexi was 19 during her senior year of high school,

it seemed that she and her mother had very much of a, I don't care how old you are, even if you're still in high school, you're a child type of dynamic between the two of them, which is fair to an extent, I guess. came home from cheer practice and she went to bed relatively early but she woke up shortly after from extreme pain that she was having in her lower back. She woke up her mom before 11 30 told her what was going on and they decided that she should go and see a doctor that night. They went to the Artesia General Hospital emergency room and told the doctor on duty what was going on. With the lower back pain the doctor was concerned that she may have a urinary tract infection or something more serious could be happening with her kidneys. The doctor then asked if she was pregnant, and Alexi adamantly said no and that she was still a virgin. Rosa, her mom, was also in the room and also told the doctor that there is no way that she is absolutely not

pregnant however the doctor wanted to do a pregnancy test anyway to rule it out before the pregnancy results came back alexi was given some pain medication this is the er doctor and charge nurse's recollection of that evening she um she, I want to say it was around 1130 at night. I don't have the chart in front of me, so I, I, there's some details I'm going to have to sort of guesstimate from my, from my recollection. Uh, her, her basic complaint was her back pain. She was brought in by her mother. We were told that she began having, um, back pain after coming home from cheerleading practice. Sounds like she had gone to bed and then woken up, woken her mother up. And so her mother brought her in, and she was in the hospital. And she was in the hospital for about a week.

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And when I initially evaluated her, she really wouldn't sit still. She wouldn't really let me examine her. She had on a very baggy sweatshirt. And, you know, a 19-year-old with back pain, the vast majority of the time that's not going to be anything serious. But she was just not really acting right. and so i became concerned that there was something else going on technically kidney stone or something like that i asked the patient and her mother if she could be pregnant her mother said no under no circumstances i've been buying pads for her every

month um and so our i ordered our normal evaluation which would be some basic labs, including a pregnancy test, as well as a CAT scan of the abdomen and pelvis to make sure she didn't have a kidney stone or something like that. The price test came back positive an hour late, maybe 45 minutes later. I can't tell you exactly how much time had elapsed, but I became aware that her test was positive. So at that point, we sent it for a blood confirmatory test which is what we call a quantitative HCG which tells us it gives us a number instead of just a positive or negative for pregnancy

tests it gives us a number and the reason why that number was really significant was because one of the concerns that you would always have in a young woman who is having back or abdominal pain could be a tubal pregnancy. There were some issues because they had ran a pregnancy test on her and they found out that she was pregnant and she was adamant, the mother was in the room with her and was adamant that she was dying to her. Did you see that?

No, Chris came to me and told me this was what was going on because we were having an issue. And he was worried about the mother, the dynamics between the mother and the daughter because the daughter was completely denied she was pregnant and the mother was relatively upset about that she was pregnant. After that, Alexi was in the room with her mom and other hospital staff. And it was about 1.39 a.m. when all of the sudden, Alexi had an intense urge to go to the bathroom. In the hospital surveillance video, you can see Alexi running to the bathroom holding her butt. Less than a minute later, her mother Rosa comes to check on her to make sure that everything is okay.

Alexi didn't open the door and Rosa seems to be talking to her through the door and we don't really know what was said here, but she ended up walking back to the hospital room. Alexi was in the bathroom for about 10 minutes before her mom came back to check on her for a second time, but again she doesn't open the door, and Rosa went back to the room. Yeah, from there we gave her some pain medication. She started feeling a little better, and then she said she needed to go have a bowel movement, and that's kind of when the whole thing happened. So what did you do after that? So when she went to do the bowel movement, where were you at?

Initially, I was at the nurse's station. And then at some point, I went and kind of checked on her, knocked on the door, seen if she needed anything. She denied. She said she didn't need anything. Did you hear anything? I didn't hear anything. Flushed it?

Told it flushed? Yes. After a while, I started hearing. So I probably checked on her two to three times. I'm not exactly sure. And then I just kept hearing paper towel dispenser mm-hmm and flushing in like the water running I knocked and she need anything denied anything in it eventually it got to a point where I said you need to come out and I asked the clerk to get the key to unlock the door because obviously she locked the door to go to the restroom.

And whenever I finally, we finally had the key to unlock it, she opened it and just kind of walked out. Did she say anything at that point? She didn't say anything. She was just looking kind of straight past me and went back to the room. Did you look into the restroom? I did. What did you see? Went into the restroom and I saw a large amount of blood.

Where? And it was on the floor. It appeared to, like she had tried to wipe it up in places. It was kind of on the back wall behind the commode, the toilet. And so I said, you know, you okay? What happened? She said, I'm on period which she said and she walked out and then I went in because at this point we had already received the positive pregnancy lab test when was that I couldn't tell you the exact time but I know prior to that we got a positive pregnancy test on her okay prior to the bowel movement did you tell her that we've got a positive? No, the doc hadn't been in there to tell her yet. Okay, so, okay. Yeah, so went in there and I did look into the trash can at that time to see if there had been anything tossed,

but the liner was fresh and completely empty. Now there seems to be a little bit of a discrepancy between the hospital staff on whether or not she was told that she was pregnant or not before going to the bathroom, but it could be because these interviews were three months after the incident. The fact that she said that the bathroom was bloody because of her period is absolutely appalling, and the staff didn't believe her, thinking maybe she had a miscarriage. But what they discovered in the bathroom was absolutely horrifying. She had buzzed to go to the bathroom, so one of the nurses was going in there anyways because she was going to set up for them to do, like, you know, pap smear and everything.

So she was like, oh, go ahead and disconnect her, and she'd go to the bathroom. So I was like, all right. So she was in the bathroom, and then Chris, which is one of our other nurses, he was like, because I was like, dang, she's flushing that toilet like an awful lot. Oh, so you noticed her flushing toilet? Yes, and then he was like, well, damn. So I went and I knocked on the door, and I said, are you okay? And she said, yes, I'm said yes i'm fine i'm just

having a hard time going to the bathroom is what she replied so i was like okay and then as i will push the call light if you need anything so you told her to push the call light yeah she needed anything and then um like a few more flushes had gone by and then that's when chris was like i don't know because i told him what if she's having a miscarriage in there and you know flushing stuff down the toilet so he knocked on the door and he's like you gotta unlock this door and then she wouldn't reply and he's like if you don't reply he goes and then that's when she heard him call for me and he was like laura you got the spare key to this bathroom i was like yeah because we keep like our ring of keys um by the desk where i sit so i went and i got the key and just as we

were getting ready to open the door she opened it and all i saw was like blood everywhere like on the walls on the toilet it just looked like a horror film now it wasn't covering the floor or was it like swatches you could tell she was wiping it up with paper towels because it was like smeared. Okay. Yeah. But yeah, so anyways, the floor was just smeared with blood. Blood on the wall, like on the toilet and stuff. Do you remember which wall?

It was like the back wall between the toilet and the sink. In your line of work, what would cause that kind of splatter? I think something that got pulled out or ripped. Like if you rip something and blood just went, it was like, like once you see the the photo you'll see what I'm talking about. It's just... So if you say like rip like something went like that? Yeah, like if you when you rip something or if you cut something and you go like you swing your hand and blood just splatters. Okay. That's's how it looked. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Yeah. We just kept hearing toilet, the paper towel suspense going and the toilet flushing. So yeah, when we opened up the door, like we saw that and then she, I noticed she had a bloody footprints that she was leaving going back to the room that we had put her in. So I had called housekeeping, which was Lila, and I was like, hey, Lila, I'm sorry to bother you. I said, but I think this patient just had a miscarriage in her bathroom, and she looked like a mess. If you could come and clean it, and she said, okay. So she came down, and she started cleaning it, and then she went to pick up and she started cleaning it and then she went to pick up the wastebasket and then that she put the basket down and she yelled for me she was like

laurie come here the wastebasket's heavy and i was like what do you mean the wastebasket's heavy so when i picked it up and i moved it towards the door i was like shit it is heavy so i pulled it out because it had like a fresh liner inside so we didn't think nothing of it because we looked. So when I pulled the liner out, there was like paper towels. And we had rolled trash bags already in there. But she had grabbed a few and like balled them up and put them on top of him. So when I removed them, that's when I noticed the baby on the bottom of the trash can just wrapped in the bag like she she had it tight like she cuz it was that the top was twisted and then like tucked under like so it wouldn't open up so basically if you like there when you grab trash

and you like and then you fold it over put it down or whatever yeah that's how it was clear it was clear yes one of those so you saw the hospital liner so you saw the baby inside the bag yeah and then when i picked it up that's when i noticed it even more because all i saw was black and purple but once we picked it up like the bag suctioned to his face and that's when I yelled for my charge nurse which was HT and I told him hey she put her baby in the trash can so I handed the baby to him and he took off to the trauma room and opened up the bag and then that's when we went and got dr. Vasquez now you say the bag was suctioned to his face. So was that from? I think when I lifted it up, it kind of loosened. And so it just, where he was still hoist, it just suctioned to him. All right, besties, I'm going to be real with you and just keep it 100 for a second.

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So we started working her up. We did a pregnancy test on her. She was positive. She was denying that she had sex. Then she said she had to go to the bathroom. She went to the bathroom. She was in there for quite a while. We kept knocking on the door.

Finally, we got her to open the door, and there was blood and shit everywhere. She was cleaning it up. So we took her back to the room. And I was afraid that she knew she was pregnant and she had done something to herself. So the doctor started doing a vaginal exam on her. We had the lady come to clean the bathroom. She put the baby in the trash can, and then she put another clean liner over the top of it

so they look when they looked in there it looked there was no trash in there but it was underneath the clean bag the baby's dead okay we have him in trauma too but she killed the kid yeah how old was the how old was the baby i don't know it's full time she just had it she had it in the bathroom was what happened and then she whatever she did i don't know she's gonna lie she wouldn't tell us she's pregnant she's been lying the whole time okay so that's what's going on um i just pulled the doctor out of the room so nothing's been said to the patient or the mother that's in there yet okay um i have leela the housekeeper if you want to interview her yeah she's the one that kind of found yeah because i wanted to get with you guys first and then get with her right to get her statement before i even do

anything well i'm the charge and this is what has happened you can interview the nurse that had her okay the two nurses that were taking care of her you can talk to the tech which is laurie she's the one that went in there and actually found it because we goes like this is really heavy okay so then uh laurie went in there and then course, the baby was underneath the clean liner. Okay. Yeah, if we can speak with Lori. Okay, I'll get Lori, and I'll get Lito. So, Officer, so the first thing, though, is I need to make sure that the mother, the woman who delivered the baby, is medically stable.

I don't know if she delivered a placenta. She's bleeding a lot. I just got her accepted to Lovelace. So how I need to tell her what's going on, and i need to tell the mother what's going the mother they're both in there together do is one of you willing to be present for that conversation are you guys going okay let's go now i'm sorry we discovered a dead baby in the bathroom. Oh, my gosh.

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do that. Lexi, I told you about this. I just asked you, baby, to tell me the truth. It was not crying or laughing. What did you do to it? Okay, stop right here stop stop number one priority guys number one priority is she just had a baby i don't know if she's delivered the placenta she's

bleeding significantly yeah i've spoken to the obstetrician at lovelace they want her up there as soon as possible okay i need your i just need your permission to transfer her for medicals oh you're right but she is a student too she's still like 19. Oh you're right. But she is a student too. She's still 19 years old. You're right. She used to, I'm sorry I forgot she's 19. You need to, to make sure that you're safe, I need to send you to Lovelace to labor delivery. Will you please agree to that? Yes. Okay. I'm gonna work on that. In terms, I'm sorry about this, but in terms of delivering a baby and it looked like you tried to hide it, you do have to have the police involved. And that thing was crying. It came out with that thing. I know, I know. But the baby's gonna have to be taken for autopsy and there'll be an investigator and everything.

I'm really sorry, guys. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. But we need to do this correctly. And I wanna be transparent with you about what our steps are gonna be. Do you guys have, I'm the charge nurse, or do you guys have any questions for me?

Like how big is the baby? It's full term. What? Nine months? I think it was crying. questions for me like how big is it it's full term what nine months let's see have you watched the news of the girls that what they do to their babies and what they go to jail okay so as of right now like what i said is're going to have the detectives come over here and they're going to talk to you, okay? We have to gather some more information about what's going on. They'll get your statement. They're going to get the doctor's statements.

They're going to get everybody's statements, okay? So I don't know everything yet, okay? So I'm not going to tell you. I can't tell you nothing, honestly, okay? Like she's not going to go to jail? Right now she's being detained. So she's not going to leave from here at all, period. Okay?

So one of us will be in here. She's in your custody? Yeah, she's detained. Yeah, she's not under arrest, but she is detained. Okay? She's not free to leave. So while this whole thing is coming up is you're not free to leave okay one of us will be in here the whole time with you because you're not going to try to

leave or nothing like that all right like i said the detectives will be here they're going to talk to you i mean your care is of the utmost right now okay they're going to do what they need to do to take care of you to make sure you get stable they get you transferred out or whatever like i said the detectives already been notified they're already on the way so they're going to come talk to you all right so don't leave don't try to do nothing one of us is always going to be in here in this room with you okay unless we have to step out for doctor's orders or something like that because they need to examine you or do something with you but other than that like i said you are detained You are not free to leave at this point. Do you understand that? Yes, sir. Okay. Where was the baby at? I don't know. I have no clue yet. Like I said, I just talked to the

charge nurse. We're still getting all the information right now. So that was a lot. So let's break that down. Alexi apparently gave birth to a full-term baby while in the bathroom sometime between 1 39 a.m. and 1 57 a.m. She then tried to hide the baby and put it in the trash can. She comes back in bleeding everywhere and tries to blame her period and the baby was found dead which at what point do you think that they're not going to find a baby in the trash can and that you're going to pass it off as your period? And Alexi says, and this is what gets me, she says, nothing wasn't crying. It wasn't doing nothing. Using this distancing language, which is a super common thing that criminals subconsciously do, And then she tries to act just as surprised as her mom when she's told by the doctor that the baby was in fact a full-term nine-month-old baby.

What are you even talking about? How do you not notice that it is a full baby coming out of you? I've given birth twice. Naturally. I mean naturally in the sense that it was a vaginal delivery, not natural in the sense that I didn't get an epidural because you know my ass got an epidural. Shout out to all the women who don't. But there is no possible way that you don't understand that that is a full-term baby coming out of you and not just a tampon. Like, I can't. So first of all, how the hell did nobody notice that she was pregnant for nine months? There has been a lot of discussion online as to whether or not her mom knew that she was pregnant, as well as some photos from her cheerleading days and maybe even her senior pictures. In some of the pictures, you can

clearly tell that her normal weight is healthy for her age and her height. She's a skinny, slender girl. And then all of a sudden, she gained a significant amount of weight only in her stomach, which you can tell in her cheer pictures and from a video even of her performing. And not one person noticed this? Are you seriously telling me that nobody noticed that all of the weight in this 19-year-old girl that was gathering in her stomach didn't send off some alarm bells and some red flags? Even if you forget the pregnancy aspect for just a minute, was nobody concerned about why that was happening? Nobody from her school, nobody on the cheer team, cheerleading coaches, none of her friends, her own mother, her sister, her boyfriend,

who clearly she was having sex with. Obviously, you don't get pregnant without having sex. So did he not notice? Like, how do you explain it? Make it make sense. And going into a little more about Rosa, her mother, she told the ER doctor that she was buying Alexi pads every single month. So what was all of that about? Was Alexi lying to her and saying that she was on her period when she wasn't? Also, pads, I get a lot of people don't like tampons, but is that something because she wanted to keep her daughter pure and not use a tampon? Now, before you say, Annie, that sounds crazy, people actually do believe that. But Alexi had a long-term boyfriend and all of the sudden gained a lot of weight only in her stomach. her boyfriend and all of the sudden gained a lot of weight only in her stomach. I understand that moms want to believe that their daughter is telling the truth, especially if they have a

very close relationship. But I mean, come on here. I also know some parents can be in denial, but really? So did Rosa have a suspicion that Alexi was pregnant and maybe wanted her to tell the truth? Was she buying Alexi the pads every month almost in a way of like, okay, let's see how long you're going to keep this lie going type of way? Or again, is it possible that Alexi was actually lying about using them and maybe going through a box of them each month? I get the feeling that whenever Rosa took Alexi to the hospital, Rosa thought that it would be more of an aha moment, like, okay, I'm going to catch you lying, the jig is up now, I know you're pregnant type of thing, which obviously I have no proof of

this at all, and this is purely my speculation, but I really don't know if I believe that Rosa had zero idea that she was pregnant. However, I don't think she thought Alexi was anywhere close to a full term or nine-month pregnancy. In the body cam footage, the expression on her face is this look of just genuine shock when the doctor says full term nine months. Even Alexi's mouth dropped a little bit, which I don't know if I buy her being shocked and I'll get into that more in a little bit. Alexi on the other hand, clearly we know that she was lying about being a virgin and never having sex before. But did she know that she was pregnant? I'm assuming she never took a pregnancy test and there are some women that truly

have no idea that they are pregnant until they are delivering. It's uncommon but it does happen. So was Alexi in denial that she was pregnant and thought that maybe it would just go away on its own? I don't know. There have been a few people online that claim that Alexi may have had a disability. I don't know any other details, and again, that might not be true. I want to be clear that if that is the case, it would maybe explain a little bit more of this, but if that's's not true how big of a complete moron do you have to be to give birth in a bathroom of a hospital and then throw the baby away in the trash and think that nobody is going to know what happened make it make sense when i did the public

exam her cervix the opening to the uterus was just wide open and there was just blood pouring out. And I was, I was really mystified as to what could be happening because I thought, well, maybe she's having a miscarriage. So as this story goes on, we learn more about Alexi's condition after giving birth and the baby. And that possibility quickly goes out the window and makes you wonder what was really going on and if this was all planned. At the end of the last body cam footage, Rosa left the room. Then she came back to ask Alexi more questions. This audio is a little bit annoying because the officer is talking on the phone, but take a listen.

Where did you put the baby at? Tell me the truth. Uh, 517-836-460 You put it in the bag? Yes. In what bag? In the truck's bag. Why did you say anything to us?

Do you want to get in trouble for this now? Who could get in trouble for this? Mom, mom, just give it a time, okay? I'm going to speak to the detectives whenever she's ready, okay? You ready for the second one? Second one is 512-401-333. Last three of that second one. This particular moment is telling just by what is not said.

There was no, where is the baby now? How did the baby die? Was it a boy or a girl? Did anyone try to save the baby? There's nothing. The concern from both Alexi and Rosa is only focused on Alexi and whether or not she's going to be in trouble for this, or if she's going to go to jail right now. This interaction, and even in the one before where her mom Rosa says, I told you to tell me the truth. Did you see on the news what happened to girls who do this to their babies and they go to jail? It's just, to me, a little telling about their relationship. Was Alexi scared to tell her mom the truth out of fear that she would get in trouble? Did she think that she would be in more trouble than going to jail for her actions now? It's really confusing, and it's very, very selfish. Also,

Alexi is 19. She's not 14, 15, or even 16. And her mom was almost making excuses a little bit ago when the ER doctor was saying that they would need authorization to transfer Alexi to another hospital, and the charge nurse reminded the doctor that she's 19. And even then, Rosa said, well, she's a student, and the nurse again said, she's still 19. So what's really going on here? Her mom is acting like Alexi is 12, but she is an adult that consented to having sex, got pregnant, and then threw her baby in the trash. There's no minimizing what she did, even if she was scared. But it seems like that's exactly what her mom is trying to do.

I don't know. Let me know in the comments if you're watching on YouTube and let me know what you think. There was also footage of Alexi's mom, stepdad, Alexi's boyfriend, and his mom when they were all in the hospital in the lobby. Hi, Rosa? Yeah, that's me. Okay. Is this your family? Yes. Okay, hi, I'm Detective Mazzal, Strategic Police Department. What questions do you have for me right now? What's gonna go on, like what, can I be with her can she's getting lifelighted out right now okay so they're taking her right now okay i haven't spoke to her at all okay so like what like what's gonna go on like what what's gonna happen with her like so she's gonna get treatment before we even talk to her because she needs to be stabilized.

So that's why she didn't let it out. Once she gets stabilized, we'll try and talk to her. The baby's gonna go up north for autopsy. More than likely it'll be done with them the next day. Is she gonna get detained after she's released? Get what? Are y'all gonna take her into custody or anything like that that depends on what the da finds we have to wait for the autopsy to come back to see

what happened because right now with how everything happened we we're going to do an investigation get more information from the omi off the Medical Investigator up north. And with that, we present that to the DA, see what the DA wants to do with charges, if any at all. Okay. It should be pretty soon they make a decision. Because with the age of the decedent, they usually expedite autopsy reports and such. With normal people that pass naturally at home, takes a couple months for us to get reports back. Stuff like this, we'll get it back pretty soon. Okay. So we don't know. That's why he'll be going up north.

So, even though she's of age, if she's not available to be contacted, can we put you down as next of kin for all mine? Okay. And you'd be grandmother? I'm her mom. So you'd be the deceased's grandmother? Yes. Okay. Just wanted to make sure. So is she. That's her boyfriend. Mr. Boyfriend, do you have a driver's license?

No. And is the address on you current? On the driver's license? No. And is the address on you current? On the driver's license? Because determining all my dad's, if she's not, if she's still in medical, then they do release the infant back.

It'll have to be released somebody. It'll be up to all my who they determine next can is. Maybe the parents, but maybe you, okay? so that's where we get everyone's information would y'all mind talking to me later when y'all are okay yeah I was with her I know she talked to him for a while on the phone and then she came to me so I've been with her the rest of the time. Today? So what did she come here for that she told you? She had she told me she had back pain. That's it? That's it. Has she been having back pain before? Yeah she's pain for her and her hips is is I mean she was born with like her I don't know it's like crooked. Her spine spine okay because my ex-husband he hit me

he beat me whenever i was pregnant with her so she was early so um she had some problems with her hips like i always had to take her to the chiropractor to get adjusted because she couldn't use like she was always getting constipated like she had to get lined up whatever so i mean i've been taking her to the chiropractor because I always thought you know well this time you know I didn't know I honestly didn't know she was pregnant I didn't know I just thought like she said I had back pain while my hips are hurting me I think I need to go to the chiropractor I said okay let's go tomorrow but she was like doing really a lot of pain and you know when did it start

like the pain yes uh today she's or yesterday she said it was really bad that her hips were hurting in her back and then last night we're on the phone together and she said her her hips were hurting bad i said ask her if anything else is hurting. And she said just everything. And she went to sleep. But she's a cheerleader too, so. She's big in cheer. They have cheer competition. She works out.

She's been active this whole time? Yeah, she's been active this whole time. And who does she live with? With me. With Eric. She's in school. She's been active this whole time. And who does she live with? She's in school. She's a senior. And how long have you all been together? Almost two years.

Two years? Okay. So I'm not trying to be rude, but you are more than likely to be the father? Okay. No, no, we get it. Sometimes it happens. It gets a little shaky when it's newborn stuff like that but with like death certificates stuff like that interpreting his sons if you choose to use them we'll be the ones to help you get those. Um, that, because that's all really you'd need and they can help you with the afterlife care, okay? Do you all have any questions for me right now?

No. Okay. Do you have my number? You can, that is my work phone if you want to text me. Okay. Or call me. I have my email on there as well, okay? Sergeant and I got your information right?

Yes. Okay. Like I said, I don't know. There will be charges. That will be up to the district attorney's office. If any are even done, okay? Okay. It's too early in the game to know right now.

Okay. So she's getting life-flighted out. We'll talk to her later. That's if she even wants to talk to us. She's a student because she still has her constitutional rights. Should I, like, get a lawyer for her? You can. That's your choice. I can't tell you what to do. That's something that y'all as a family must talk about, okay?

Now, what do you make of that footage and that behavior it seems very odd to me alexi was transferred to lovelace hospital in roswell and was later discharged she did not deliver the placenta there either so it's assumed that she flushed it in the toilet at the first hospital where she delivered the baby from there she went home and then she just totally went about with her business like nothing ever happened. She was back at school, back with her friends, back with her boyfriend. She even went to prom. Now, Artesia is a small town, and initially, after everything that happened, there were rumors at her high school of what had happened. Which,

side note, not sure if something is a rumor or if it's true, but anyway, Rosa was pissed. She ranted to police officers that this was their fault and also accused the hospital staff of violating HIPAA laws. Rosa talked to the police like they were trash and beneath her, almost as if she wasn't in the same hospital that the police were the night that they were called because her daughter threw her newborn baby in the trash and tried to hide it. Now let me just say this, newsflash asshole, your daughter could be charged with murder. You may want to cool it a little bit, maybe calm down a little bit. The encounter was extremely

bizarre and off-putting to say the least, but the police weren't anywhere near done with Alexi, not by a long shot. In April of 2023, the police started doing formal interviews with hospital staff about what they saw that night, and this is what the ultrasound tech Lorraine had to say about it. ultrasound tech, Lorraine, no, this is disturbing. She pulled me aside. She was whispering to me, and she said, apparently, what the patient did was she walked in. She goes to the restroom and delivers the baby in the restroom and then puts the baby in the bag, in a bag, because the garbages that we have throughout the departments are pretty tall and there's those large garbage

bags that are pretty sturdy. So I guess she delivers it in the bathroom and pulls placenta and everything out throws the baby in the bag goes in the garbage so anyway so I go into the room with her and I know that I need to scan her but I need to scan her through the vagina not through the belly because I noticed that there was a significant amount of blood on the table and there was a police officer in there and I was a little bit uncomfortable with him being there and so was she so I asked him if he could step out and just stand by the door so he did that so I didn't want to have a conversation with her after I was given this information but she was talking to me and um while I'm trying to get things set up.

And she says, I don't know what's going on. She said, I didn't know I was pregnant. I'm a cheerleader. I started gaining a lot of weight. My clothes were tight. I was taking birth control pills. So she said, this didn't make any sense to me. I just, I don't know what to tell you. And I did my scan and then I left.

Other than her saying, telling you that she was pregnant, taking birth control and her clothes got tighter, did she tell you anything else that may come to mind? And did you use the, the, the, the belly ultrasound or the vaginal? Through the vagina. Yeah, and still there was some tissue because when you deliver, whether it's a normal delivery or not, sometimes the stilt and the tissue can still be in there. And so she was having significant amount of bleeding.

But after that, I stopped. I told the doctor, and I sent the report out to be read, and that was it. It wasn't until the morning, too, when I walked in. And this is Artesia. I'm not from Artesia. I just work here during the week. And word gets around, and I just was hearing stories of what really happened. I never knew the details until I walked in the next day.

Okay. And I just don't say anything. And how long have you been a ultrasound? For about 20 years. Okay. So is there any other trauma or anything to that part of the body that would lead you to believe that she didn't give birth? No, no, because, you know, and after talking to the ER doctor, I mean, she was obviously in labor, you know, and I think she knew that.

And so my assumption was, you know, she panics because when she was talking to me, she was talking pretty rapid. And she was like, I don't understand. So, you know, was it all mental, psychological? Who knows? But she definitely knew what she was doing and what she was doing was wrong because of the way she was talking to me, you know, just stating, you know, I didn't realize I was pregnant and, you know, but I'm taking the birth control, you know, so, I mean, she was panicked, but, you know, I didn't see her being in a state of mind where she did not know what she was doing.

And that's just my perception for, I working with women we're not just women women and men and scanning in general you know who who's a little bit off and i i didn't get that with her she she's pretty much and she felt it i mean you could tell that she was i don't know if i should say if she was worried or she was concerned because she knew what she did was in the wrong. That was just the impression I had. And she wasn't the only person who had that sentiment. The ER doctor and charge nurse also had chilling versions of their story when they spoke with detectives. Here is the ER doctor from that night. At that point, several of your officers arrived. They

arrived very quickly. And we went in and I said, we found a dead baby in the trash. And she said, well, it came out of me and it wasn't moving. So I just put it in the trash. And the mother started screaming at her, screaming, it i knew it i knew it this is after they both sworn up and down that there was no chance to be pregnant um and so at that point once we got her transferred and i believe that the um officers called for um i'm not sure what steps they did but we made sure we didn't touch the dead baby we didn't do anything because we did not want to contaminate the crime scene and that's when i documented and that's it um and i but i was told it was it was in a plastic bag that was tied off and then stuck into a plastic bag and

then they put trash you put trash on the top to try to hide it. Okay. So he was out. Yeah, that was what was told to me. But he was outside the bag when you saw him? Yes. They had opened the bag up, and I just turned, I took the trash can, I just turned it upside down and dropped, dumped everything on the bed. Okay. And you didn't see any trauma or anything to the baby? I don't have a very good recollection of that.

My brain was 100% focused on, is this a patient I should try to resuscitate? And once I made the determination not to resuscitate, all of my attention turned to making sure that the mother didn't die. Okay. So did any of the nursing staff find the placenta at the emergency room? No. No? Okay. I have no idea what happened with the placenta. She didn't deliver it at Lovelace either.

She probably put it in the toilet, would you mind guess? Would that have been would that have been something that was able to be flushed it depends on how broken up it was i mean you know if it's torn you potentially could have been flushable or it's possible the housekeeper could have thrown it away without thinking it was just bloody um you know, cause there was blood everywhere in the bathroom. Really? And did she, did she say anything other than after you told her that you found a deceased baby? Did she say anything? Just that it was, it wasn't moving.

So she put it in the trash. Okay. And mom's screaming. I knew it. I knew it. It was a really unpleasant experience i'm sorry for that i really am is there anything um you think we should know that we haven't asked no i mean you have autopsy results and you can you know obviously make your decisions based on that she was extremely

duplicitous she lied to us the entire time it was very i mean it was an extraordinarily difficult case um the nurse and staff were distraught the housekeeper was distraught um i i don't even know what to say. I mean, it's been a terrible case. Yes, ma'am. One of the worst I've seen in my career. The interview with the charge nurse was the one that was the most heartbreaking interview in this case, in my opinion. And it's a little longer, but I feel like everything that he said was extremely significant and very telling. Take a listen. The next interaction I had was I had the tech, which was Lori Aragon, come and tell me, HT, you need to go to the bathroom. So I went to the bathroom. There was quite a bit of blood in there. So this was after she came out.

She went to the bathroom, was in there for a long time. And Chris was telling me she won't come out. So I told him you need to get the key because the bathroom's locked. And so he told her he was going to get the key. And so she came out. But there was some blood in there. So I went to Dr. Vakas and told her. I was worried that she did something to herself physically in the bathroom,

the way she reacted being pregnant and the things that I was being told. How much blood was in the bathroom? It was smeared around, so it's hard to tell exactly how much. But it was enough to cause me to have concern. Okay. but it was enough to cause me to have concern that she, I really thought she had done something physically to herself when she found out she was pregnant. Question. When did she find out she was pregnant?

Right. It was pretty early on because we did the urine. First off, any, any female that comes in with back pain, we do a urine right away because we're worried about a urinary tract infection. And with any female, when we do that, we always do a pregnancy test to make sure we don't give them medications that would contraindicate pregnancy. Do you know who told her she was pregnant? I believe Dr. Voskas did. I believe. I don't know because I wasn't in the room for that because I wasn't involved with direct care.

But I knew she knew fairly soon because we already were having an issue with the mother being upset about her being pregnant. Prior to going to the bathroom? Way prior. Way prior. Because then they started an IV and then they started running blood work on her. Because once you find out someone's pregnant, then you run another lab test to see how far along they are. Okay. So they started an IV and we're giving her some fluids.

I guess I don't know exactly what they were doing I wasn't involved that kind of care but I told dr. Bosco she definitely needs a vaginal exam I'm concerned that she did something to herself that was my concern and they took they took her right into the room and then I told Lori call housekeeping they got to come clean this up which time she called Lila, who was on call for housekeeping. Then I was just sitting there, and then the next thing, Lori comes and goes, H.T., oh, my God, you better come to the bathroom. I go in the bathroom, and she goes, something's in the trash can. I'm like, I looked in there.

There's a clean liner. I'm like, what are you talking about? She goes, pick it up. I picked it up. I could feel the weight. I knew then we had a serious problem. I immediately took, I just grabbed the trash can and went right across the hall. There was trauma too.

I pulled, the liner was pulled out, but there was another trash bag in there in the bottom, but it was all kind of, it was rolled up. So I had to tear it apart. And then, of course, I saw the baby in there. So I pulled the baby out, got him on the bed, checked for signs of life. There was absolutely no life whatsoever. I immediately came out of there. After I did that, went into the room where she was performing, she was performing the vaginal exam. And I immediately told her, you have to come out now. And she came out and we went

into trauma too. And she reassessed the baby at that time between me and Chris and her, we determined, you know, there was no reason for us to begin any life saving the baby was completely gone. What did the bag look like? The bag was the original trash bag that was in there it had trash in it she when I pulled it out it was spun where it was tight like tight and then it was folded underneath the baby in there so it was like where it was tight like tight and then it was folded underneath the baby in there so it was like a little capsule the baby was in so when i you know i had to tear that bag open to see the baby in the bottle um if you would look in the track and i looked in there

um i was when she told me so something i looked i said what are you talking about because there was a clean liner in the trash bag so basically he was in the bottom trash on top of him and then another clean liner put on top so then after that after we determined we were not going to do any work on the baby

I shut the room down and I said call the police and then I didn't let anybody leave. No one went back in that room. I made sure of that until the police arrived. And you said, so with the blood in the restroom, you said it was like smeared. Can you describe where all it was smeared at? On the floor, there was some on the toilet, there was some on the wall.

Do you remember which wall? Well, there's the one wall that's by the toilet, there was some on the wall. Do you remember which wall? Well, there's the one wall that's by the toilet that's closest to it where there's a side rail. There was some blood there. There was quite a bit of smearing on the toilet itself. And then on the floor, it was just smeared around. Okay. What do you think that is from? I thought she did something to herself physically.

Okay. Because the interaction between her mother and her daughter was weird. And so, but just to make sure, mother is patient's mother. Yeah. And then daughter is patient. Yeah.

So the daughter is the patient and the mother. The interaction between them after she found out she was pregnant, the way the daughter was reacting about, she was adamantly dying. She was being pregnant. She was denying that she had sex. And you heard her say that?

Yes. She was denying that dying. She was even pregnant. She was denying that she had sex. And you heard her say that? Yes, she was denying that openly. What did mom say when she said that? Well, mom was upset. And the mom was saying, I can't believe you. You know you can talk to me. You're supposed to talk to me about this stuff before you were having sex, all those kind of things.

She was saying stuff like that, which is pretty common. I mean, this isn't an uncommon thing. I see young girls having sex, and they come in, and they're pregnant, and then the mother is with them and find out, and it's upsetting to them. You know what I mean? So it wasn't uncommon. It happens. Finding out your daughter's pregnant is not uncommon.

Not the other incident. Not the tragedy. No, no, no. I've never seen anything like that okay so i want to make sure like no so just no i've seen lots of young girls come in and find out they're pregnant and then of course they deny that it's not uncommon that they deny that no mom i haven't even been having sex you know what i mean that's that's a lot of those initial reaction because you know they they feel like they're going to be in trouble i guess i

don't know what they're feeling but that's not an uncommon reaction that i see with young girls and their mothers particularly with their mothers in there or father that they'll deny that they've had sex that's that's that's pretty common all right and so you said it was Lori that called you, you went in and the liner was still on. Yeah. There was a clean liner on the top. That's what I was like, what are you talking about? And then she said, pick it up. And when I picked it up, it was heavy. I was like, holy shit. You know what I mean? I knew right. I mean, right away I knew that I just went straight to trauma too with the whole trash can. I just went across the hall and broke the baby. So after you, Doc, and Chris decided there was no resuscitation, what did you all do after that?

What did you do after that? I made everybody leave the room and I told Lori to call the police. But then after that, anything else? No, I didn't do anything until the police arrived. And they came and asked me what was going on. And I took them into the room and told them this is what happened. This is what we found. And I haven't talked to them yet.

Okay. I haven't talked. I haven't said anything to them. So between that. Until the officer arrived. So from the time of declining resuscitation to officer involvement, you didn't have contact with patient or mother? No.

Okay. Just want to make sure. No. I didn't go in the room until after the policeman showed up, and then I went in there to talk to the patient and asked her why was the baby in the trash can. And what did she say? She said that it just came out of her her and she didn't know what to do

that's what she told me and did she say it was breathing not breathing she didn't say anything she just said it came out she didn't know what to do right and at that point did mom say anything? Mom was kind of a little bit irate, like, oh, my God, how could you, you know. Well, I think the mother was in an assumption that it was a miscarriage. Uh-huh. And I told her, ma'am, that is not the case. This is a full-time baby that was placed in the trash can.

And then she really. this is a full-term baby that was placed in the trash can and then she really and that's when i told the mom ma'am if you can't control yourself i'm gonna have to ask you to leave the room because she's 19 she's an adult right and what did she calm down no she actually left she went outside and outside she's like the waiting room. And then she came back in. Once she came back in. Yeah, and then once she came back in, and then once I had talked to the police officer and stuff, some of the family had started showing up. And she went back out there, and at that point I told them,

because the officers asked me to not let anybody in certain rooms. And so I told everybody, and I even went out there and addressed the family, said, I'm sorry, the police are here now. This is kind of an investigation thing. We need to find out what happened. And no one will be allowed back into the working area anymore. And so I kept them in the way. Did they have any comments?

Not one. I was really surprised not one person asked me about the baby. If it was alive, if it was dead, if it was a boy, if it was a girl, no one asked me anything. Not even a patient? No, she didn't ask. The only thing she started doing was crying and started

talking about, she didn't know what to do. Not one. I've never seen in my, I mean, I've delivered multiple babies and I've seen multiple miscarriages and I've never seen a reaction like that. And I don't even know what to say about that. I've never seen anything like it. How would you describe the reaction? I think there was no emotion except for herself.

And she really wasn't even crying tears. She was just, and the only thing she was upset about was that I think she was going to be in trouble with her mother. That was her only concern, in my opinion. There was no concern for the baby. No one asked me any questions about the baby. Not even the family members. When I went out there and talked to them, did they say, you know, normally people I would think would say, was it a boy, a girl, you know, they, no one asked me one question about the baby at all. Not, not one. The whole time, the whole time the whole time no one asked me anything about the baby's

condition if there's a boy or girl anything nothing okay did you have any interaction with her when she got i know she was flown to to roswell did you have any interaction with her then we well because um at when we looked at the, the umbilical cord was still completely attached. So then I had concerns about her health. When a baby comes out like that, we worry about the placenta being still attached, which causes the mother to bleed. So at that point, our concern was about her and getting her somewhere. Probably, I envisioned that she was probably going to have to have what we call a DNC to get the rest of the placenta out of her to make sure she'd be okay. So I was in there explaining to her, this is what's going to happen.

You know, we're going to have to fly you to Loveless, you know, for you to see an obstetrician to take care of this stuff. So I explained what we were going to be doing with her at that point, but it was just basically, you know, my job telling her, you know, this is what I need to do to make sure you're safe and you are okay with that. There was no more conversation about the baby? I didn't ask, I didn't have any conversations with her about the baby at that point. No. My only conversations with her were about what I needed to do to ensure her health. And at that point, mom still hadn't talked, asked about the baby? No, mom was ensure her health. And at that point, mom still had to ask about the baby?

No, mom was already on the waiting room at that point. We wouldn't let her back in, but no, she didn't. Now I know that I had the house, cuz I had called the house supervisor to come down because this is a big deal. And I know that she kinda intervened on some things in the room. I don't know exactly what they talked about. But I know that Marina was visibly upset about the conversation she had with her. And we talked to her yesterday.

Right. So I don't know what their conversation was. I know that Marina was quite upset about the conversation they had. That's all I can say. As you can tell, I could tell Marina was quite upset about the conversation they had. That's all I can say. As you can tell, I could tell Marina was upset. As long as most everybody, which was after that point, my job was to, I had to get back. We still had patients coming in.

I had ambulances coming in. I had two ambulances show up. I had more patients coming on the floor. I was down three beds because I had them coordinating off. So at that time, my attention turned to, I have to get everybody functioning. Which

not only did I have to do that with the nurses to get them back, I had to pull the doctor aside and get her focused because she was visibly upset. So that was my mind frame at that time was I have to get these people back. We have sick people still.

We can't do anything else. You sound cold, but that was my mindset. We had sick people and we had ambulances coming in and I had to get these people back online. We had to get back to work. We had to function. Yeah, the ER says to function. I have to roll. Is there anything we haven't asked you you think we should know?

I'm just going gonna tell you this I've never ever seen a reaction like that girl. I am I don't even know what to say about it. It was zero emotion. I just I don't know what to say. I've never seen anything like it. I've seen women that are only married, or not married but pregnant for six weeks and they lose that baby and they're a mess. You know what I mean? That girl went into that bathroom, made no sounds

at all and the baby came out of her. And had I don't even know how she functioned that way to do what she did and with no emotion. I've never seen anything like it. And it was a, it was a pretty good size baby. Pretty good size. It looked term to me. Yeah. Me too.

I mean, it was term, I can't tell you that was, but the only thing that upsets me the most is I understand she was scared, and I think her mother had a big dynamic on her, and I understand that. I mean, I think her mother was probably pretty controlling. I don't know that. I'm just speculation. But she gave me no chance to save that baby. I had no chance, and that baby. I had no chance. And that's not what I do.

My job is to save lives. And I had no chance on that baby. She gave me no chance. And we are a facility that you can drop the baby off, no questions asked. You can just leave the baby and go. I don't care, you know, as long as you bring the baby to a safe. We are one of those type of hospitals. So it's hard to fathom what was going on in her mind i don't know i've never i've never seen anything that i pray to god i never see it again i mean it's like it was like i don't

even like tv shit you know what i mean shit you just i don't even know what to say man it was crazy we appreciate what you do we've done a lot of things together I appreciate what you do it's my job every day it's not just a job it's a calling and we can tell that you take it to heart well it's and I truly as a father

I truly appreciate what you do well it is very upsetting what transpired and it's like I said it's harder to choke down when you don't have a shot but you need a shot with that kid so it's hard yeah well I know you've been doing it a while so if you need to talk to somebody don't hold it in just get to talking

to somebody this is one of those things you gotta put put in the case and put it away and go to work I know I've done it many times

well so you know what I'm saying well if you have any questions let us know. Cynthia has my contact info. If we need to get a hold of you, is it okay to get a hold of you again? Absolutely, man.

Okay. You know, in my opinion, you know, that kid didn't have a chance. And I don't know what she did or didn't do can't say for sure but I know she gave me no chance and that's all that matters to me I didn't get a chance you didn't get a chance to do your job I didn't get a chance to save that kid

and I believe wholeheartedly in my every fiber of being I'd have saved that kid or I would we would have got that he'd had a shot and my fiber of being how to save that kid. Or we would have got that, he'd had a shot. We'd have got him out of here alive. I don't know, but, you know what I mean? Like I said, I don't know.

I didn't inspect the child that closely once we looked him over and, you know, there was no signs of life and he was gray and there was no signs of life and he was gray and there was absolutely no heartbeat. There was no, nothing, you know, to present life. But, um, you always, I always feel like I always have a shot, right? Whatever comes through my door. This is the one you didn't have that option? I didn't have an opportunity. I mean, I've delivered, I mean, a month or so prior to that, we had a lady come in and it was breach. The kid was hanging out or blue. And that kid is alive today and well. So, you know, I really feel like we didn't get a shot. You know, I really feel like we didn't get a shot.

Alexi's actions were immature and selfish. The way the charge nurse kept mentioning that she never even gave him a chance to save her baby is so extremely heartbreaking. All Alexi had to do was call for help. The hospital where she went that night was a safe haven location as well, where women can drop off their babies with no questions asked. But instead, like a cowardly moron, she chose to dump her baby like a piece of trash in the one place where there were not only tons of people who could have saved him if he really was having trouble breathing, but she could have also given him to the hospital, where he could be adopted and given to worthy parents that would love and care for him. Instead, she robbed him of everything and ended his very precious short life. Detectives tried to get a hold of Alexi to see if she would speak with them, but she wouldn't do so without a lawyer, which was fine. They just needed to hear that from her.

Law enforcement had to make multiple attempts to speak to her, and each time they had to remind her mother that they didn't need her permission because Alexi was 19 years old and she was an adult. Now before we get to the autopsy of the baby, the most disturbing interview in my opinion of what may have happened in the bathroom was given by Lori, the CNA. Honestly, she, to me, did not look pregnant, but then she had on a hoodie. So this was fresh to you? Yes, this blood was fresh. You couldn't even smell it. And is the amount of blood consistent with giving birth or a miscarriage or some sort of traumatic event? I'm sorry, can you repeat that?

Okay, the amount of blood in the bathroom, on the floor, on the walls. Is that consistent with the amount of blood that is lost when you give birth or have a miscarriage? To me, I mean, it looked like she had given birth and it was trying to clean it up like it wasn't that much blood on the floor but you could tell she was cleaning it up because it was like smeared and somewhat cleaned up a little bit yeah and usually i usually when there's like one or two things in the wastebasket i usually pick it up and take it out but I didn't that night and then

like I've been kicking myself on this because I feel like you know if I would've just taken it out I would've seen it

well no one no one prepares for that type of thing you know what I mean most people don't act like that so don't blame yourself for it

yeah cause it's not a natural thing to do I think it's just hard because I'm a mother. I'm a grandmother. And I've never, I've dealt with death before, but never like this. Right. You know, like, it was horrible.

Don't beat yourself up about it, though, because it's something most people don't plan or most people can't think of it. To them, it's, like, unfathomable. So don't beat yourself up about it because it's something you couldn't have prepared for. Yeah. Because like you said before, you're expecting a miscarriage. Yeah, I was just expecting her to have a miscarriage and call it a day. I mean, we've dealt with patients before that have had miscarriages. Yeah.

So once the baby was taken into the trauma room or trauma room. Yeah, he went into trauma too. Okay. Did you have any, what happened? What did you do at that point? I just remember I stayed in there because she went to go get Dr. Voskis. And then I noticed that the abelicacor looked like an animal had torn apart. Like, you know, if you ever eaten string

cheese you know when you twist it that's how the bottom of the cord looked and I just remember it caught my eye I was like this this check really ripped this thing apart because those things are hard to cut right did you find the other part of the umbilical cord no we, we're thinking, I'm not sure if she had delivered the placenta because I wasn't in there when they did the final examination. But either she delivered it in loveless or she flushed it. You always didn't find it at all. We didn't find it at all.

I even looked in the little cabinet that we have in our bathroom because it has a bottom cabinet. So I opened that up just to, you to know i don't want no more surprises and how big would that be how big would the placenta be do you have any idea no i would say maybe me personally giving birth myself to a full-term baby it would have to have been about the same size as the baby. How would that... Because I've seen placentas where we've delivered a few times here, full-term babies, and their placentas are pretty good size or like that, but they fit inside one of our basins. Right.

And is it thick? It's like a... Or is it like... It's kind of thin-ish. Kind of like a servoing steak? Yeah. Thin? Like a, you know.

Looks like roast beef to me. Okay. Oh, that sounded good. I don't know. Picture in my head. I just tried to describe it. But we didn't see it. Okay.

And that, honestly, I thought that's what was in the waist basket, was her placenta. Mm-hmm. I did not expect to see this full-term baby. Okay, after that, any other involvement? The only time I saw the patient was when I went in to have her sign her paperwork, the teleforms that she has to sign because flight crew was on their way to transport her. That was the only time I had any. Did she say anything?

She just cried. She was just crying? Because there was two police officers in the room with her at the time. Okay. How many times did you hear the toilet flush, do you think? More than 10 times. Because that's when I was like, like dude something's going on in there okay and so that's what because the over 10 times in the year like in how long what span of time did the toilet flush it was like once it flushed

she waited a few minutes and then she flushed it again it was just constant flushing so 10 minutes of constant flushing of 15 minutes being in there yeah yeah because when she ran to the bathroom i did see her pass me because i remember i told the girls because she had she had her hand on her crotch and one on her butt and she was running to the bathroom when i was out there i guess we gotta go gotta go and um because when the laptop erica was out there. I'm like, this one better go. Gotta go. Because the last time Erica was sitting there, we were talking and she was like, dang. She was like, really?

And that's when we noticed she hadn't been in there for quite some time. So I don't know if maybe the baby was already coming out and she just ran to the bathroom as fast as she could or what. Is there anything you think we should know that we haven't asked you?

No. No? Okay, well. I think I gave you guys everything I pretty much know. I mean, that's just something I'm never going to forget. Right. So you've been a nurse how long? I'm a CNA. Oh, CNA? For how long? I'm a CNA. Oh, CNA.

For how long? Maybe like 16 years. Oh, so you've been in the ringer. Yes. I've done nursing home. This is actually my first time doing hospital. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah.

That's why I said, like, I was used to deaths, but nothing like this. Well, just a reason I'll ask. So you say it was fresh blood, right? Have you dealt with dry blood, like dead blood? Mm-hmm. So is this not fresh to you or dead? This is not fresh. It's like, you know, well, I mean, I've dealt with stab wounds, gunshot wounds, but never like this.

Yeah, I understand. This one was like the most gory thing i've ever had to feel like a steven king film i feel so horrible for all of the hospital staff that had to experience such a traumatic experience i can't imagine the absolute horror of seeing a baby with an umbilical cord shredded like string cheese or like it was ripped apart by a savage. This poor innocent baby's mother who referred to her own baby as nothing. Remember, nothing was crying. Did she rip off the umbilical cord with her teeth or how would someone physically do this? Again, I've delivered twice. I don't know how this is even physically

possible. It would have to literally probably be like gnawing with your teeth at it. It is so savage and just so disgusting that it makes me physically ill. When the baby was found in the trash, he was already cold blue with no signs of life and with a temperature of 95 degrees. The items in the trash can with the newborn were paper towels, trash bags from the restroom, and a tampon. The autopsy said baby John Doe was a newborn baby boy who died shortly after birth. Autopsy and post-mortem computed tomography showed an infant male without any anatomic abnormalities or obvious physical injuries. The lungs were aerated and there was air in the stomach and no changes of disposition. The connections in the heart that allow proper blood flow in utero were

still open, which is not unusual in a newborn. The adrenal glands showed microscopic hemorrhage, which can be seen in hypoxia, which is lack of air. The air in the lungs and stomach, and no evidence of decomposition, is consistent with the baby having been born alive. Based on length, weight, and organ size, he was approximately 38 weeks gestational age, which is term and compatible with life outside the uterus. This poor baby boy had a full head of hair that was short and dark. He weighed five pounds and nine ounces and was 18.89 inches long. The cause of death is entrapment and the manner of death is homicide. The legal definition of entrapment is the mechanism of death due to confinement in an enclosed space is usually ascribed to asphyxiation from oxygen deprivation, meaning that this little

baby boy suffocated to death essentially. Meanwhile, according to Alexi, he never took a breath. So, Cindy Buck actually had told me, okay, like, yes, we need to register the baby. And, like, as a, you know, like a jingo or whatever, like infant male, but there's also, like, a paper that I need you to, you know, ask her. There's a paper that you need to ask her, and the nurses fill out. And it's very important that you, that we know whether or not the baby took a breath or whether or not the baby did not take a breath. And I said, okay. So at that time, I said, because every nurse by that time had been telling me that this patient had been kind of changing up little bits and pieces of her story.

While she was in the presence of her mom, I guess. So when I said, okay, I'll try to get the truth out of her, then Cindy was like, well, whether you have to ask the mother to leave the room, but we need to know. So I went and I found the form that Cindy was talking about about and i go into the patient's room and i introduced myself and i said there's just a few questions that i need to ask you and most of it was like you know uh first and last name date of birth uh social security number which she didn't know and then whether or not she knew whether or not she took any kind of medications and then so I said so you know right now

it's very important that you're very honest and truthful with me I said and it was just she and I in the room. And mom wasn't there? Mom was not there. Okay. And I said, did your baby take at least one breath when it first happened? Did it take at least one breath or was it not breathing? And then she kind of looked at me in the face and the eyes and she was like, well, can I tell you? And I said, tell me what?

And she said, so I've been having this bad abdominal pain, she said. And we came here to the ER and when they brought me back here to this room, I felt like I needed to go poop, she said. And I asked if I could go to the bathroom she said and so when they said yeah that I could go to the bathroom she said when I sat on the toilet she said it just all fell out and she said but when I had it in my arms it wasn't breathing it wasn't moving and so of course you want to be, very judgmental at that time. And you have to bite your tongue sometimes.

But, you know, my first reaction was like I wanted to say, hey, well, then why wouldn't you call us for help? But I didn't. I saw she said, so I just. He wasn't moving, he wasn't breathing. So I just placed him in there. Alexi threw her own baby in the trash can around 2 a.m. in the early morning hours of January 27, 2023. And now it was almost May. Months passed and nothing had happened to Alexi. However, all of that was about to change. Rosa was about to be confronted with information that for some odd

reason seemed to surprise her as much as her daughter being full-term pregnant. An affidavit was signed for Alexi's arrest on May 10, 2023 for first-degree murder with intentional abuse to a child and tampering with evidence. This interaction was also caught on body cam. And just when you think that this family may show an ounce of humility and understand the seriousness of Alexi's actions, they don't. There's none to be had, none to be found anywhere. This is my house. I have a right to see the court. I'm letting you know she has a warrant for arrest. We don't have a search warrant for your house. We have a warrant for her arrest.

Okay, can we see the court? Yeah, one switch. She gets a copy of it. Can I go up there when you take her up there? Okay, so what is she under arrest for? She's over 18. I understand that. You're a technical consultant. What is she under arrest for? She's over 18. I understand that. What is she under arrest for?

She's under arrest for what? That's all we know. What do you mean that's all you're going to tell me? She's over there. I understand that. But I have a right to know as well. We'll tell you that. Okay, then let me know now.

Let me know now. I'm giving you the the corporation i told you i answered my question what is she under arrest for like that's not about us what are you what is she under arrest for no i'm not bringing her out here yet. Let me know what she's under arrest for. She's going to get arrested regardless of that. For what? For what? For what? Are you okay with that one? Homicide. Open count of homicide. And tampering with evidence. Tampering with evidence? At the hospital? So, can you say that? The reaction is truly just unbelievable to me. The audacity of this family and their reactions is like nothing I've ever seen. When Alexi was arrested, her mom asked the police if they could

make sure that she separated from other people because of what they will do if they find out what Alexi did or what people think she did. That is a direct quote. She said both of those things. Her lawyer is claiming that she had no idea she was even pregnant. I think it's pretty outrageous, actually. That's how high-profile attorney Gary Mitchell describes the charge against his client, 19-year-old Alexi Treviso, who is currently behind bars charged with first-degree murder. She's in great distress because she's in a jail and never been there before and didn't do anything to deserve being there.

I don't care what the state of New Mexico may allege. She's at the only facility where she can get help, and then this happens? I have serious problems with that. I have serious problems with the hospital care. I have serious problems with the records we're now getting out of that hospital because I don't think it's necessarily correct and honest. Treviso's attorney claims there's more to the story. They did some lab work, but they gave the medication before and gave it anyway. And that's powerful painkillers. Mitchell describes Treviso as a good student involved in cheer and choir,

with no history of getting in trouble, and already committed to New Mexico State University to continue her education. And I have serious problems with the charge in this case, which is first-degree murder. And you can bet your life we're going to defend this tenaciously. The state has filed a motion to keep Treviso behind bars until trial. Mitchell argues she should be released, saying she's never fled after the incident and has no criminal history. She just lost a son.

She just lost a child. Well, I mean, come on, there's got to be some common human decency here. Alexi was only in custody for several days before she was released on a $100,000 bond. The judge required her to go to counseling, but she is not required to wear an ankle monitor. From what I've seen online, it looks like she was allowed to graduate high school, but did not attend the ceremony. She's 19 years old. She's a high school senior, graduates next week, although they're not going to allow her to go to her graduation because of the controversy in the community. And they just don't want to have any chaos. She's agreeable to that. They ask very politely.

She's agreeable to that. They ask very politely. Artesia is one of the finer school systems in the state of New Mexico. And they at least honor their protection of students. They're very good about that. And they simply ask. And there was not an order or a command from the school as far as we know. They just asked that she not be there so as not to generate any issues whatsoever. And so she agreed to that.

But she took her last final and is to receive her diploma. Mitchell says Treviso went back to school in January after giving birth, but after her arrest, only returned to take a final exam. He says she has a 3.8 GPA and has already committed to attend New Mexico State University in the fall. On top of that, he says she's never been in trouble before. She has absolutely no criminal record, not even a moving traffic offense, no juvenile record, no suspension from school ever, no infraction at school, and an honor student, and already admitted into college. And a member of the cheer team since she was a freshman in high school, a member of the choir,

just an all-around top-notch student and person. Just never been in trouble. I'm assuming that the charges she's facing is going to interfere with her plans for college, to say the least, but who knows. Alexi has been taking a lot of heat online, and so has her mother. A lot of people are wondering if Alexi was hiding the pregnancy the whole time or not, or if her mom really had no idea. I don't know what the truth is, but this interview with one of the nurses raises some serious questions. Once we all figured out what was going on and I went in there, Once we all figured out what was going on and I went in there, she essentially was scared. She was worried that she was going to get in trouble.

She did have a back and forth with her mother that was just about like, they had said, oh, the mom was upset because she had had sex and hadn't told her. So they were going back and forth on that, and then she was just denying it, which was a little out of the, wasn't really, did not apple at that point in time. Right. So the patient was denying having sex at this point to her mom. Yeah, she was trying to state that she was still a virgin. After she came in from the bathroom. And all the blood and all that.

So I did the pelvic, and then I think shortly after that, the mom was in the waiting room after that. And then she was just worried. She was asking me, like, what was going to happen. I told her, obviously, I did not know. Is this when you found out she was worried about getting in trouble? Did she tell you anything? She didn't say anything about what had happened.

She was just essentially worried that she was just going to get in trouble. So that's what I mean. Were those the questions she was asking? Like, what's going to happen to me? Like, that kind of thing did she ever ask about the baby no not once

and so her folks her being in trouble and anything other that she talked to you about she did at one point time when the ultrasound was

tech was in the room with her ask if there was anything she pretty much said would there be any like bad outcomes if she had started taking stop taking one medication and stop taking another and I said well what medications are you talking about she said well what would happen if I stopped taking birth

control started taking weight loss medications? I don't know. That's a hard question. I thought so. You sure what would happen if you stopped birth control and started weight loss? Mm-hmm. And she didn't like expand on that? She didn't tell you why she was thinking that? No, it seemed obvious in my head though, so. Could you like tell me why it seemed obvious? Well, it seemed like she'd been trying to hide this pregnancy from her mother

from some for some time. So if you pray, if you know you're pregnant, you're not going to continue taking birth control medicines. But if you're trying to hide it, you might start taking weight loss medications. That's kind of what it seemed like in my head. Okay, she wanted to make sure because it seems like it to me. she just wanted to make sure. I'm not thinking. And was the argument between her and her mom pretty heated? I would say heated. It was awkward.

Awkward? Yeah. Like they were going back and forth and her mom was definitely angry. Okay. And the patient is 19. Her mom is quite a bit older. Gotcha. And they never once ask about the baby?

During the entire time you had contact with her, once she left the bathroom? Even after they found out that the baby was found and all that, they never ask anything about the baby? I did go check on the mom just to give her an update and I think she asked about the situation like asked what was going on I told her I couldn't tell her anything so I just went to go tell her that like she's being transferred to Roswell and give her an update on her daughter essentially and that she asked about like what what was going on with all of that. She said, what happened to the bathroom?

What happened to the bathroom? I said, I can't tell you. Right. But nothing specific saying what about the baby? Correct. Okay. First of all, if Alexi was on birth control, did her mom know? And if so, why was she so surprised that Alexi was having sex?

It's not clear what medication Alexi was on or if she was taking some type of weight loss medication while pregnant or had stopped birth control and started weight loss meds, but it seems like it could be a possibility. Although it's a little late to ask what the effects of that are if she had already been doing that. Did she think that taking diet pills or whatever she had would hide the pregnancy? Is there a chance that she thought that this may end the pregnancy? I don't know, possibly. Maybe she thought that by taking all these medications it would be a forced miscarriage or forced abortion. I don't know. Currently, Alexi's trial is set for October. She has pled not guilty on all charges. Her lawyer thinks that this is ridiculous and still says that she did not know

that she was pregnant, which I don't know if I really believe that. What do you think? So she is shocked whenever she delivers a baby. And then the issue of what caused the baby's death is going to be one that's going to be litigated. I already have a real good idea what caused the baby's death. It had nothing to do with my client. She was not at fault. Mitchell says Treviso had spent four hours working out with her cheerleading team earlier in the day and was dehydrated. He says pregnancy didn't even cross her mind. There's no question that she thought she had been protected. There's no question that she had wisely used birth control, she and her boyfriend.

So, but obviously it didn't work. Upon arrival at the hospital, Mitchell says Treviso was loaded with medication, including Zofran, sodium chloride and morphine. They gave her major medication. Some of that medication certainly dangerous to a unborn child or fetus and contraindicated if you're pregnant, certainly contraindicated if you're pregnant, certainly contraindicated if you're going to breastfeed later on. And that medication was started without finding out whether or not she was pregnant. He says eventually hospital staff learned Treviso was pregnant, but didn't tell her before she went to the bathroom. He argues she should have been monitored during this time.

This is a classic instance that a female feels the need to go to the bathroom. He argues she should have been monitored during this time. This is a classic instance that a female feels the need to go to the restroom. Maybe we better check and make sure she's not delivering a baby. I mean, you just don't allow that kind of thing if you know what you're doing. They did, and they didn't bother to tell her. Mitchell also stresses Treviso gave birth alone. So this is a situation in which the hospital failed her, the nurses and doctors failed her, the medical investigator has failed her. When asked why Treviso put her baby in the trash can, Mitchell echoes what Treviso says in body camera video. Lexi, I told you about this. I just asked you, baby, to tell me the truth. It was not crying or nothing.

The baby was dead. She took her baby. I know that, and I'm not at liberty to get into that. I need to save that for our experts and stuff to discuss. And I really don't want to tip off the state of New Mexico not at liberty to get into that. I need to save that for our experts and stuff to discuss. And I really don't want to tip off the state of New Mexico to what my client might say. But let me put it this way. People would be very pleased with the actions that she took and the way she handled the situation. Despite the fact she's on major pain medication, Despite the fact she's on major pain medication, is in total shock and in a state of panic,

she still tried to do the right thing by her baby, I'll tell you that much. And that baby wasn't put in the trash right away. As Long Crime Network reported, an autopsy conducted by the Office of the Medical Investigator showed the baby's death was not consistent with a stillbirth, finding he had air in his lungs. Mitchell says the results can't necessarily be trusted. I'm obviously going to have another expert look at that. I don't know if that's true or not because I don't have much confidence in all of mine. He alleges the hospital illegally released parts of Treviso's medical history, something that may be considered malpractice. I'm absolutely convinced that not only will we be able to show that she's totally innocent,

but we'll be able to show what some people might call malpractice that took place. And that's before we even get into the violations of HIPAA, Privacy Act that protects and protects our medical doctor patient privilege New Mexico. Mitchell bel will be acquitted of the when more information com

intend to hold back in re woman. She di this. Uh she was an extre attitude now about women' now exposed to a first de women in this country is now exposed to a first-degree murder charge. In New Mexico, a first-degree murder charge could yield a life sentence. Child abuse resulting in death could mean an 18-year sentence. Lexi, have you watched the news of the girls, what they do to their babies and what they go to jail?

The one thing that I am extremely curious about will be what comes up in the digital evidence for this case. Her Google history and text messages may prove to be a goldmine for the prosecution in proving their case, that she knew that she was pregnant and she knew the whole time and that she tried to kill her baby afterward. Something tells me if she was stupid enough to commit this crime the way that the prosecution sees it, she was definitely googling like a madman. But I guess we will have to wait and see. Unfortunately for Alexi, things are only going to continue to get worse. And I'm not so sure how a jury is going to see this, but I'm going to take a wild guess that it is not going to be good. Alexis Evia, another New Mexico teen, was recently on trial for dumping her newborn in a dumpster to keep her parents from

finding out that she was pregnant. She was found guilty and sentenced in May to 18 years in prison, and her baby ended up living after being found in the dumpster by a couple who heard the baby crying. She was charged with child abuse involving great bodily harm. In that case, her lawyer argued that her actions were not premeditated and that a previously undiagnosed mental health disorder played a role. The judge presiding over the case told her that had it not been for luck and the grace of God, he would have been deliberating a sentence in a murder case, as there was a high probability that the child would have died had he not been found.

The Alexis Avea story is another insane case with a maddening interrogation that made me want to pull my hair out because of how stupid she was. Alexi's lawyer also says that these cases shouldn't be compared. The parallels that are only drawn is because they're women and they involve babies. In the Hobbs case, which is the one you're speaking of, the young woman in that case was alleged to have placed her baby in a dumpster and she knew the baby was alive and the baby lived. In our instance, that's not what happened. The baby was, did not live long enough to survive and nothing, due to no fault of my client. Now, had she been rendered proper medical care? That's a different story, but she wasn't rendered proper medical care. But what do you think? Is there a reason for a comparison to happen? Although the outcome was different, luckily for the child with one

surviving, at least, it begs the question, do these young girls hide their pregnancy because of fear that their parents will find out and what they think that the repercussions will be I know that there are certain pockets within New Mexico where there is a very strong religious sector so could it be attributed to that in any way as though they need to be pure they're virgins until marriage and that anything else is a red mark and disgrace of the family name is that where the pressure comes from or are these just irresponsible selfish immature young girls that think they can literally throw their children away like a stick of gum what do you think and what do you think about this case I am very curious to know do you think Alexi knew she was pregnant the entire time

do you think that it was a big surprise do you think her mother had any inclination and what do you make of all of those interviews and body cam footage I will be following this case very closely guys and I will make sure to be back over here on the podcast and update you as soon as we know more especially as she's going to be heading to trial just in the next couple of months. All right guys and don't forget head over to masterclass to grab that deal while you can. It is 15% off when you go to masterclass.com.ae. I'm telling you guys there are so many useful classes and instructors there you're going to love it masterclass.com slash AE so make sure you check back for not only that update but for other

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