Sex, Lies & DM Slides - 115. Dating Dilemmas: Mummy’s boys, Cults & The ’Talking Stage’

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

We're back with one our favourite types of episodes - dating dilemmas!! Before we get into all your questions and relationship problems, Ana shares a hilarious voice note that she recieved from her mum that morning! Next we tackle all your dilemmas - from how to get out of the talking stage, to dealing with mummy's boys, to dating the heir of Richmond sausages?! And finally, we share our car crash stories and bizarrely, there's a lot.... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Visit connectsontario.ca. Hello, everyone. let's go hello everyone welcome back to another episode of sex lies and dm slides with me anastasia kingsnorth and me saffron barker so we are back for another opportunity to deep dive into all things sex and relationships um so how are you i good. I'm recovering from the most horrendous cold. I feel like I'm on like the last like two days of it now. So I do apologize, guys. I sound a little bit nasally because I still cannot breathe out my nose. But other than that, I'm good. How are you? I'm good. I'm not ill, which actually does make a change nowadays. I'm very happy about that. But yeah, yeah i'm do you know what yesterday i did feel a little bit worse for where i went to the nta's the day before last

and i mean i was actually fine so anna and i arranged to go for breakfast and i've texted they're like morning so it's me anna and imogen and both of them responded with responded with i felt like death so i was like right that's not us going for breakfast i felt more sorry for imogen she sat in the hair salon at 9 a.m how did she do that with a hangover i don't want to be sick getting my hair done on a hangover because i feel like hairdressers talk like they don't stop talking and just like hair could be therapeutic but it just isn't because they just don't stop talking which I love my hairdresser so it's fine but oh yeah if you're friendly with them if you're just getting to know somebody and the noise in the hair salon on a hangover like all I want to do is put

my head on the pillow like I don't need my hair being tugged so I was like oh my god bless I went to set the voice down I could hear the hair dries in the background I thought oh my god that is hell but yeah I did one too many tequila shots. But the NTH was really fun. It was really fun, actually. Yeah, you did a lot. I only did one tequila shot. And the reason I did it, guys, it's so funny. So everyone knows there's this guy who, like, I would say is, like, my biggest crush of all time.

Like, everyone would know who he is, but I actually can't say it. And I hate being that person, but I can't say it and I hate being that person but I can't say it because it's just embarrassing but he doesn't normally go to events like this and he is he's ridiculous like he's absolutely out of this world so tall just so tall and um everyone who had seen me who like knew me well had had come up to me like, you need to go to that suite. You need to go and see him. Saf, it's literally the love of your life in there. So that was courage.

Before I spoke to him, I was like, right, I'm doing a shot. But that was the only, I didn't take it too far. I had a couple of drinks, one shot. So I woke up and I wasn't too bad. An update. It wasn't actually that exciting. It was a bit like, it wasn't what I thought it was gonna be yeah when you come back over you were like how was it and you just didn't have the

excitement I thought you were gonna have and I was like oh yeah you know they say you shouldn't meet your idols maybe you shouldn't meet your crushes yeah I was given that but you made you made the right decision just having one tequila shot because I think I had probably seven or eight because me and Imogen were just getting too excited I was like why are we doing this but then to be fair I think it was because I saw the Selling Sunset cast on stage and I was got I got so excited out of nowhere like I didn't believe them because I was at the bar getting a drink and everyone's like Selling Sunset are on stage I was like we're in the UK babe they're not here so I ran to the front and they were there and I was freaking out because I'd literally just been watching the new season so then from that moment onwards it was all downhill horrendous headache well and we did

have there was like an after party then there was an after party and the thing is the drinks that you get it's either wine prosecco guys i was drinking cider yeah there's cider is what i was on all night because they didn't do any spirits apart from that you can have the shot like why don't i just like wine it's so annoying no but your cider was nice like my cider was actually banging it was good yeah i'd mix but it wasn't getting drunk no i'd mix rose with prosecco with tequila shots with like it was just all too much and i get such a bad headache on Prosecco anyway so yeah the drink choices are questionable but it was a very fun night very very fun night yeah it was eventful and also I went on I um well to be fair I went on a night out a few days before

that and I woke up the hangover and it really made me well actually I woke up and I was really ill not even to do that with the hangover but like I was just oh my god it was just awful I remember thinking I don't want to drink again I don't want to get ill again like I feel like drinking just makes me ill like not even because I'm hungover like it just makes me unwell like my body just doesn't agree with it and I think that was like the point where I was like I don't want to feel like this again I'm not gonna go to the NTAs and wake up like hungover it's not gonna happen and it didn't well I'm proud of you yeah you held your own I wish I could tell you I wish I could tell you

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I honestly like my mum I think everybody knows this who's listened to this is one of the most dramatic people you will ever ever come across so I never really know what is going to come next like I think can it actually get worse so I wake up this morning and I've got a voice note from my mum I'm just going to play it to you with... Your mum is hilarious. Honest to God. She sends me a picture with this voice note. I'm just going to listen to it because it is just wild.

Hang on. Anna, I don't know when you'll get this. No, no, not on FaceTime. She'll be asleep. And I don't know when you'll get this. And I swear I am not mucking about. Your brother's not either. There's a vulture.

There's a vulture. There's a vulture. On the reef outside, Anna. There's a what? It's a vulture. It's as big as your height. It escaped from Edinburgh Zoo in February. And we think it's the one that's escaped from Edinburgh Zoo. I don't know what to do, Anna.

I ain't going out of my garden. It's a giant vulture, okay? It's got a long neck. It's about ten times the size of a normal bird its beak is as long as you like i've never seen nothing in the wild like this in my life oh my it's got its neck up it's yeah it's a vulture okay i'll just sort of let you know love it it ain't good i'm not going out in the garden okay i want to see it fly. Okay.

That is not what she woke you up to. She did. And she sent me a picture of this bird on the roof. Wait, and actually, is it a huge bird? No, she just exaggerated. It does look very much like a vulture. To be fair, that is actually quite terrifying, but I don't think it's escaped the zoo.

No, to go so far to say this vulture has escaped from edinburgh zoo so then i googled vulture edinburgh zoo to see like has one escaped one escaped in july and there was one news article on it so i was like like that yeah kind of like it potentially could be the vulture like it genuinely could be but surely not but like i don't i really don't know but like the thing is i know how big that roof is and how small a normal bird would look and it is massive like it is huge but then i forgot to reply to her because i was getting ready and the last message i got was that picture but after googling i think it's a bird that flew over from Norway and I was just like

what a dramatic morning because I called her and I was like do you want to call the RSPCA do we call the police what do you do because vultures can kill people it's a bird but a vulture can kill humans so she was like do you want to call somebody

she went well no what do you want me to do about it then that's what I find funny is the fact that she's calling you So she was like, I was like, do you want to call somebody? She went, well, no. I went, well, what do you want me to do about it then? Because I'm three hours away. Yeah, that's what I find funny is the fact that she's calling you. Like, as if, like, what are you going to do about it? You're a hundred and thirty miles away. But that's so cute, though. I know.

She's calling you. I'm three hours away. Do you want me to come and get rid of the vulture? Because I can't. I physically can't do that. And would you? No, I wouldn't go anywhere near that vulture. So I'm so glad you told me.

And I don't go anywhere near that vulture so I'm so glad you told me and I don't actually think it is but it just made me pissed because I was like what is coming next like my mum is just so unpredictable honestly if I got to

wake up from a voice message from Julie every morning it would make my morning it's just so funny because there's something new every day and I just love her

every day I just love her so much so much shit happens to my mum I just feel so sorry for the woman because so much. So much shit happens to my mum. I just feel so sorry for the woman because she's so stressed all the time. But this time, it was a vulture. She's so stressed all the time. She is so stressed all the time.

But I just had to put that out there because it made me die with laughter this morning when I listened to that voice note. Well, do you know what, babes? We woke up. We're not unwell. We've got no vultures. Life is great. We've got no vultures. Life is great however

today's episode is one of our favorite to do however it is it's not so great for you guys um and we're going to be answering and listening to your dating dilemmas which although it's our favorite things to do we wish these stories weren't true because a lot of the time it's just actually fucking nuts and like things that so many of you have gone through, we wouldn't wish upon anybody. But yeah, today is dating dilemmas. So let's go reading them, I guess. Don't know what I was going to say then. Couldn't get my words out.

Let's dive right in. Let's Anna and I give you our unprofessional advice of what we would do if this had happened to us yeah so I mean take our advice with a pinch of salt here yeah because it's very unprofessional I don't know just say it for yourself because I think mine's quite great actually well I think mine's great at the time and sometimes I listen to it back and I'm like oh my god like what advice have I given there so I think we have good? Okay, I'm glad you think we do. Oh, I just stressed. I do.

Okay. Okay, I really hope we do. The first one is, I don't know how to get over the awkward part of the talking relationship stage. Can you help? To be fair, I actually feel this. I think to like jump stages is hard.

But I don't think the talking is so bad. I think the seeing, like is the talking stage so bad I think the seeing like is the talking stage you haven't met them oh see no I feel like it's hard I feel like it's so different for every person isn't it like what you'd class as the talking stage and seeing each other I would still personally say I'm in the talking stage if I've met them. But maybe that's just how I'd word it.

Like, how would you word it? Yeah, I guess so. Because it's like, if you say you're seeing them, you're kind of locked in. Yeah. Like, oh, you're really seeing that person. Like, it's just you two. Then it's just you two. Hmm.

Okay. Okay. So talking is maybe seen. Do you know what I do think that's I think it's awkward because it's like you want to see somebody but yeah do you want to be locked in at the scene stage but the thing is I feel like we haven't got enough context here because it's like well what when you say you don't know how to get over is it that you want to move on to the next stage do we think that's what she's saying I think yeah I think she's saying she's ready to move into it but he maybe hasn't initiated yeah the moving forward which is really hard because personally like i would want the guy to initiate it i don't i don't want to be

initiating like that yeah i think if you've already seen him okay so if you've seen him multiple times yeah let's base it off of you've met him and Okay, so if you've seen him multiple times. Yeah, let's base it off of you've met him and you've seen him a couple of times. Say how many times? Four times? Yeah, four or five, yeah. You've met him four or five times. I would probably. So I don't.

Okay, so like old me. Old me. That would be enough for me to be like, I'm locked in. Like I've seen him four or five times. That's a lot for me. But now i'm locked in like i've seen four or five times that's a lot yeah but now i'm trying to do this whole new thing which is like dating like just not like being way more chill with it because as you all know i'm normally a zero to fucking thousand i'm like that with una reversed it yeah not anymore with una reversed it like four or five days it's like oh yeah like i'm talking to them, but I'm chill. Okay. This is quite different for me.

I would, if I didn't want to be like completely locked in, well, then I would obviously just carry on what I'm doing. But if I did want to, I honestly think as much as I'd want the guy to say something, I would say something. I would say like,

um, yeah. What would you, how would you word it? Yes, it is fucking hard. Okay. Here goes my amazing advice go on you said we're really good no i'd probably say i'm thinking fuck i've like really

said that i have good advice and here i am like what would i do if it was a friend also i'd probably say to them i would first say give it time i'd say give it a little bit more time because i'd want the guy to say something but if not I would say something along the lines of um oh I just hate the whole like exclusive thing but I would probably say something such as like it's totally fine if you have by the way but like are you dating other people are you seeing other people just so like I know where we're at yeah I would say something along those lines so it's like chill but it's like getting out like where's your head at and then that's easy for them to be like oh no I'm not like seeing anyone else like I only like

want to see you and it's like oh okay so like then it's easy to be like oh it's like what are we then or like would you like I just feel like it's easier then I probably would say that if it was myself and I really wanted to know the answer I think that's like a a chill way of asking without coming across to like I actually quite like you and want to move on to the next stage like you could easily play that off as like oh I'm just curious I was having a conversation with somebody the other day and they were saying, you kind of like know if you like someone or like want to be seeing them after three dates. Because you can have a really good first date. Yeah, you have a really good first date. You want to see each other again.

Second date has gone amazing. You've still got loads to talk about. Then you're on to the third. It's like, okay, on the third date, you kind of need to be getting a bit deeper now. Because you've definitely covered all of the surface level stuff stuff so you're going to start having like better conversations so I feel like that is like the decider as to whether you're gonna carry on seeing them which I thought was quite an interesting way to look at it because I've never looked at it like that. No it actually makes a lot of sense. Yeah I thought it was quite a nice way to look at it so I think I agree with what sat in the sense

of if you want to act really chill about it just be like oh like you know are you seeing anybody else or have you been going on other dates or you know but i but i would personally let him initiate the right we're moving on to the next stage like i i don't think i would have i i don't think I could personally say to him, like, well, I want to be exclusive. That couldn't, I couldn't do that. But maybe that's just me. I don't think it's that bad if you did that. What if I said,

I want to be exclusive with you? I mean, I just hate the word exclusive. I'm like, you're just together, you know, because like. The stages in dating in 2024 is a joke.

Like, we've got... It is. It is actually ridiculous. Like... It's ridiculous. Go back to when my mum was younger. But it's so weird because my mum, like, they wouldn't even really ask people out. Like, if you were seeing them, that was your boyfriend.

So, like, genuinely, like, you'd see them twice and that's your boyfriend. It's really weird and i would say to my mom but like two times isn't enough time to get to like to know them well enough she's like yeah but then you just break up how weird so how many boyfriends did they have when they were younger because oh my god yeah they probably would have had so many moms like yeah that's just how it was for everyone like they didn't have talk and see and it was like either oh yeah like that's like oh yeah it's my boyfriend that's just how it was for everyone like they didn't have talk and see and it was like either oh yeah like that's like oh yes my boyfriend that's who she's like with now you know what that's lovely because nowadays well I don't know though because some of these people I've dated do I want them for my boyfriend no thanks no but there's two there's almost like too many people that we are like we have access to because there's dating apps, there's social media, you know,

like there's so many ways, that you can meet new people, that sometimes you're just, spoiled for fucking choice, and you like, join me, so like that's actually, quite nice that,

I don't know, there'd just be like, full, let's go for it, because nowadays, not a lot of people are like that, and if you are like that, you're a love bomber,

so you can't fucking win, you can't, well there you go, there's go there's our unprofessional advice and i really hope it was great as i thought it was gonna be not sure if it was okay right next dilemma do you want to read it out yeah so me and my boyfriend recently moved in together but i wasn't ready. Should I be honest or wait the year out? Ooh. Fuck, that's hard. I think if you tell him now, no, you moved in. But you signed the contract.

I can't imagine it going that well. No, because surely, like legally, you've signed the contract as well now. Like you moved in. And I would also think, personally, if I moved in with somebody and they said that to me, I would then be thinking to myself, like, do they not, like, love me? Like, that's, like, so weird.

Like, it's such, like, an exciting thing to then go back on it. It's really hard. But obviously, that's how you feel. It feel it's like that's such a horrible situation but I do also think when you say you're not ready like I don't know what is it because I feel as if I don't know for me personally if I loved someone and I'd I'd made a step to move in I couldn't imagine then not being ready unless I just didn't like love them or like them enough without like putting words in this person's mouth I feel like you are ready but you're more just scared because I think when you move in with somebody or when you live with somebody for the first time that is when like you really get to

know a person and that is what everybody in relationships have said like you really know your partner when you live with them and that also might be a bit daunting because like as exciting as the time is like it also might cause more arguments things might change like it's a very unknown time so even though you're saying you're not ready you might actually have been ready but the fear is just slightly creeping in and it's obviously a lot to deal with like that's a big step to take with somebody moving in with them especially a partner to be fair ditto to everything you just said like I it's really hard like that's kind of what I wanted to say but we don't know you so to say that someone we don't know is like quite hard

but if you've already jumped the step of like you wanted to move in with him and the idea was there, then yeah, I say, I say, honestly, like if you're really unhappy, obviously not. But I think you should give it time. Like if you've just, I don't, I don't think it's going to end well if you just get up and like leave. I know that's probably scary because if you aren't happy, then you should absolutely do that because also you should not say somewhere you're not happy, like 100%.

Like that's the most important thing. And like, who cares what anyone else thinks? But if it's not like you're just unhappy, but you just say, oh, I don't know if I could do this. I think give it time. Yes.

100%. I think wait out a little bit. I mean, obviously you've signed for the year now, but like I said, it could be the fear. And like, I get it. I feel like if I just moved in with my boyfriend, I would find it really hard to adjust to that. Like, I'm sorry, having boys' boxes lying around

or dirty dishes in the sink. And that's very stereotypical. But like, if they're a messy boy, oh my God, it would drive me fucking up the wall. Like, it would honestly drive me insane. But I think it's because I've lived on my own for so long. But I think definitely just wait it out a little bit longer, just to see how you feel. Because obviously, I'm guessing, oh, you just have recently moved in, so it's obviously

not been long. I think just give it a little bit more time. And if you're still feeling the same way in a couple of months, then yeah, that's your sign to be like, this isn't right. But I definitely think wait it out a couple of months then yeah that's your sign to be like this isn't right but I definitely think wait out a couple of months just to just to see how it goes but it's funny isn't it because like what even if you did it in a year's time like what difference would it make that's why I really think you should wait it out because I don't think in a year's time yeah like Anna said I don't think it comes down to like are are you ready? Yeah, I think it's more how you feel about your relationship.

Yeah. That's the advice I'll be telling my friends. I'll be like, how do you actually feel about this person? Yeah, 100%. Let's go. Hey, you. Yeah, you. Scrolling TikTok and avoiding your chem homework?

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Learn more at sunnybrook.ca slash special. Let's go. Should I say I have my boyfriend if my mom doesn't like me or the idea of him even having a girlfriend? I think this is better. Hear me out. You might disagree. Would you rather this or would you rather your mom didn't like him because i'd rather i would honestly rather my boyfriend's mum not like me than my mum not like my boyfriend i oh god first of all it depends if he's a fucking mummy's boy is he a mummy's boy or is he not because i think that also plays into it if my mum didn't like my boyfriend I honestly don't know if it would matter that much only because I don't live anywhere near her I think if I live near my mum like you did then I would have more of a problem but like

if my mum had met someone and she's like I'm not that keen on them i think my mum's reaction would be i don't really like them but you're gonna do what you're gonna do and you're gonna learn from it okay i could be so wrong though i could be so rather your mum disliked them than your boyfriend's mum just like you i think i would like yeah i think i'd rather my mum dislike them because oh i don't know i really because my mum liked my ex-boyfriend i've not seen her not like somebody i'd actually don't know how she'd react but then you did yeah like you said that you don't see her that much i feel like it would be that yeah i don't like we speak every day on the phone but like i could so get away with having someone she doesn't like like and bit her being a phone call

like you could probably have a boyfriend your mom could like not find out like whereas my mom's on my doorstep yeah i could have a boyfriend for a mum could like not find out. Like whereas my mum's on my doorstep. Yeah, I could have a boyfriend for a secret for a year and keep it from my mum and she would be clueless. But I would never do that. But I could.

So maybe I would prefer my mum to hate them because I can still see them on the sly. Whereas like if my boyfriend's mum hated me, I don't know. I feel like I'd always like sit and make you feel like shit yeah and I'd always be like oh is he gonna listen to her one day and be like actually yeah bit her off like oh yeah my mum's right yeah do you know I think I'd sit there and think that yeah so the only reason I say that is because if I've said this before if my mum doesn't like my boyfriend I'll fucking know

about it oh like to the point where it's not worth me being with them because I will hear about it every day and I've said this before um I've got a crack in my neck said this before but there was this one guy I was seeing and my mum just hated him she absolutely hated him and I got reminded of it every day i know every day she told me she didn't like him and to be fair i get why it was i think it was a midlife crisis situation do you know what she didn't like hey isn't the right word like he wasn't an awful person but she was just like what the fuck are you doing like there's nothing to him like it's just and i look back and the thing is she's always been right

like every time I hate to admit it but like I remember at the time I actually had to say to my mom like I get it but like just let me learn the mistakes on my own like just sometimes you have to do that yeah you do but the problem is it's like my mum has always been right so in her eyes it's like well I'm just wasting time you know like yeah she just she wants the best for me it's all that I loved it's all that a lot yeah but yeah do you know what she's better now so like now she's just very if I'm seeing someone that I used to tell her everything whereas like now I don't because and it's funny because I are like now I feel as if she's like well why why have you not like told me much about him and like I just kind of do my own thing but unless I'm actually gonna be with them I can't deal with the telling

my mom but I think opinion that's like that's good growth on you as well though because I feel like that shows that like you are you are a changed person from your previous relationships oh yeah and you're not zero to a hundreding no I'm really not do you know what like I'm very different like not that I've had another relationship since my last but I just know that like I am so different like I used to be so soft like such like I love a girl and like feel sorry for my next boyfriend because I'm not like that anymore I feel like my last relationship has just it definitely has changed how I've looked at relationships because the way that I was to then how it ended like was just so awful but yeah I think like actually within time like when I have a boyfriend like I'm sure I will be that person again because that's a part of me yeah you definitely will yeah

when you find the right person and they bring it out of you again it will just take time for that person to come back out rather than being like there straight away yeah that's true I think I just got my guard up more now. Yes. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. Everyone keeps telling me that. So it's fine. Anyways, we literally totally missed the question.

Oh God, yeah. Should you stay with your boyfriend if his mum doesn't like you? Yeah, I think you should stay with your boyfriend. Like that's... As long as he's fine with it. Yeah, if he's fine with it, then... Which I'm assuming he is if he's fine with it yeah if he's fine with it then like yeah which i'm assuming he is if he's still with you so it's not yeah i mean it's not well it is on you obviously but like

it's also not because he's obviously so fine with his mum not with his mum having those opinions he obviously loves you enough to want to be with you if my parents didn't like any of my brother's girlfriends I know for a fact they couldn't be with them like I know that they wouldn't yeah like Jed said this to Imogen before he met her which is so weird literally makes my mum sound like a monster my mum's actually the nicest person and she likes everyone it's literally one person she's disliked but he had said to Imogen like before we've met my family, it's like fucking pressure. I'm like, Jed, that's so fucking rude. He's like, just that, you know, if my family don't like you,

like, it's not going to happen. I was like, Jed, that's actually like really, and Imogen said she was terrified to meet us. I would. Because of that reason. I would be so scared if my boyfriend said that to me. Babe, I know. I'm like, and he's like, well, I'm just telling the truth.

I'm like, oh my God. I mean, Elise is honest. True. We were talking about it literally like a week ago we all sat together and Imogen was telling me how scared I'm like did you literally can't say that like well they're together now been together four years and Imogen said yeah you know she that she loved when she met all of us but um yeah I know they wouldn't be with them but that's because that that opinion matters so much to them but clearly in this situation your boyfriend's mum's opinion doesn't matter that much to him so I would absolutely stay with him like Anna said if if he doesn't care then you shouldn't care either obviously it's nice to be liked and I would definitely try my hardest to be liked by her and probably figure

out why she doesn't like you um yeah but I wouldn't not be with somebody because of that because at the end of the day you're not in a relationship with his mum you're in a relationship with him so if he doesn't care that much about her opinion then you you know like that's yeah I think that's yeah I think that's I think that's good advice I think as long as he as long as it isn't bothering him then it shouldn't bother you I do think but I do think you have to I don't know try whatever you can but like you said or even the idea of him having a girlfriend like that's crazy to me because I know what that feels like like I understand that and that sounds like a mummy's boy.

And I hate mummy's boys. I absolutely cannot stand it. We could do a full episode on mummy's boys. Yeah, actually, it's funny because there's this influencer who I love. She's amazing. And she has lots of kids. And she has a son. And they're the most gorgeous kids.

And she was like, and we were talking about like mummy's boys and stuff. She was like, oh, my God, like they're they're the most gorgeous kids and she was like and we were talking about like mommy's boys and stuff she was like oh my god like they're mommy's boys she was like when they have a girlfriend like I'm I'm not gonna hate it like this and that and I was like but don't you think when they get a girlfriend like they're really super young I'm like like it's nice like see them grow up and like start their own family she's like no and I was thinking to myself oh my god you're gonna be that mum like you're gonna be that mum that they can't have a girlfriend that can't yeah just really protective really protective but I'm when I look at like how my mum raised my brothers like I'm so grateful she wasn't like that like obviously we're all super close and like my mum's protective but

yeah at the end of the day you have to grow up and start your own family like that's life that's life like it's just like I just never understand when somebody's like that I know it's hard when like we haven't got children or whatever but yeah I just can't stand a mummy's boy I'm like just oh it just frustrates me like I've experienced it yeah you have good I've never experienced a mummy's boy before I've only heard it from staff and heard it from a couple of other people and yeah I'm gonna be honest it's giving hell and horror so I would love to try and avoid a mummy's boy yeah love a boy who loves their mum but we just don't need their mum living in their pocket no exactly like honestly this one experience i had

honestly i think he takes his mum's milk i'm not even joking if you told me he was still breastfed i would genuinely hand on heart believe you you do believe me yeah i believe you if you told me he's still breastfed that honestly the stories it's just fucking wild I think it was the worst case of mummy's boy that could ever be yeah I don't think it could be

any worse no like it was a lot and I had to deal with it and it was it was a lot but yeah

you know what he couldn't hurt a fly apparently so there you go there we go mummy's boy let's go

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in mind like she'd gone through a very very very bad breakup with him so was really out of sight out of. And our friend called her and was like, oh babe, I saw your ex out today with his new girlfriend. And said what she looked like, the full detail. And it sent her

spiralling. Because that was the first piece of information she'd found out about him since they'd broken up she had no idea about the new girlfriend no idea about any of it didn't even know where he was and sometimes I kind of think

out of sight out of mind is almost better that is how I want to deal with things because I know that when I've seen people in the past if they're out of sight out of mind and then I see something new it just hurt yeah it triggers you it hurts it brings it all back and it's like is that information really needed did she really know that but I don't know if I went okay so I know somebody that you was

basically in love with yeah and then end up being an absolute twat if i went out and i saw him and i didn't tell you and like a year later it came up would you not be like why the fuck have you not told why would you not tell me that you would be i know you would be yes i would be i would be like oh why did you wait the time if it was like yeah to get even if it was like a week after why would i keep that from you that's really weird like imagine me seeing him on a night out and not telling you and then like a year later or like a few months later you finding out you know what why would you not tell me that i think it's all about the delivery of the information yes so sorry really quickly this happened to me oh god when i broke up with my ex my one of my best friends she's just a bit dramatic she's a dramatic person okay um

and she somehow like found out he started following this girl from an area and like he's been with her before and everything else and like starts telling me and i was like okay oh thanks babe i don't want to know though but it was like yeah but also and it was just constant and I'm going on why like why the fuck are you telling me this like I don't want to know I think it's different if like you saw somebody out and about then I'd want to know because it's like why would you not tell me that and I know yeah why would you not tell me that and I probably would want to know but like who they're following on Instagram I don't give a shit like you don't need to tell me that like I probably looked at myself you don't need to go

like do you know I mean you don't need to like if you've just broken up but I'm not looking obviously yeah like that I remember at the time thinking why do you keep telling me and honestly for days that kept giving me new info and I actually had said to her I was like babe please stop like I genuinely don't care like please stop sending me this information I don't want to know that can sometimes be more triggering because like say if you just sit like say if I seen your ex walking down the street I'd say to you like babe I saw him walking down the street today but like yeah if I was seeing his following, like, when it came to, like, other girls and stuff, and delivered it in the same way, it wouldn't have the same effect. I think it is all in the delivery of the information.

Yeah, I think you're right. How nice it is brought to you. I think I would want to know, yeah, because when you asked me, like, would I want to know? Yeah, I would. But know yeah because when you asked me like would I want to know yeah I would but just in a very calm way yeah whereas my friend who was telling me it was so dramatic it was like phone call like babe you won't fucking believe it and I'm like I was having a really nice time on holiday and I'm like for fuck's sake like why have you told me that yeah when if you're already feeling that at all yeah and if you're already like feeling a bit shit about the situation anyway you didn't handle the breakup the best

to then hear information that you don't really want to hear it might just feel ten times worse yeah so i think tell them but yeah just tell them very like i'm really sorry maybe to have to tell you this but i didn't want to keep it from you. I know this information. Yeah, I think so. Not dramatic. Baby won't fucking believe it. Phone calls left, right and centre.

Yeah. We'll just keep it, you know, calm, cool and collected. By the way, it wasn't like this. I actually didn't care, so it's fine. But I remember thinking, I don't want to know this, but it wasn't just a follow.

There was way that, I'm making it out as if like, you followed someone and she was stalking him there's actually way more to the story but it was really dramatic how she delivered it to me and I just thought like I it's just so unnecessary I did yeah this in my life yeah you did like yeah I get that yeah I think to round this episode off um deliver the information very calmly yeah because i would prefer to know like i think i would be more annoyed if i found out a year later that my friend had known and not told me i would also try to look at it from the sense of like oh they probably didn't tell me because they didn't want to hurt me but i also would want to know so yeah definitely yeah should we do some um there's actually some really quickly i know we're

sitting around of the episode, but we've got some funny dating stories, but I think we should quick fire them. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Just to round off the thing. Like we need to just quick answers.

First thing that comes to your head. Right. First one. Turns out my boyfriend was part of a cult. We broke up. Too fucking right. Anyone in a cult, we're breaking up.

I didn't even realize people like cults are still really a thing okay that's really cool cults are such a thing still especially in the us yes okay well yeah i mean it depends but what like cult are we talking are they all the same i don't know i don't know but anyone that's any part of any cult no thank you you, I don't need it in my life. Okay, yeah, big no to the cults, that's the first I've heard that. Yeah. Sorry, the next one, great. I went on a date with the heir to Richmond Sausages.

I fucking love Richmond Sausages. Of course we're in the fridge. Don't think I'd want to go on a date there though. What? No, not to, no, but with the heir to Richmond,

like they'll own the company. Oh. Oh, fuck. I read that so wrong. What? You thought you were going on a date to Richmond Sausages? I don't know.

You went, I don't think I'm going to go there, though. I'm like, what? Wait, what the fuck? That's so funny. I love Richmond Sausages. They're so good. I'll start talking about Richmond Sausages

for way too long. Yeah, so anyway... Do you know what, though? I have Richmond Saus're so good I think it's odd to talk about Richmond sausages for way too long yeah so anyway do you know what though I have Richmond sausages all the time their protein is so fucking low low? low there's barely actually

any meat in Richmond sausages yeah that's why they taste so good oh I love Richmond sausages I love them oh sausages are magic okay well big yes that is so funny

because if I were on a date with the heir to Richmond sausages, wow, what a flex. That is so random. Yeah. Big yes. Was he called Rich? Do you reckon he is? Imagine. Do you reckon he's called Richard?

Richard. Yeah, probably, actually. I reckon he's called Richard. Yeah. He crashed the car on the first day. Once I got to the hospital, he blocked me. What the fuck? the first day. Once I got to the hospital, he blocked me. What the fuck? He crashed...

He crashed the car, she went to hospital, and then he blocked her. So he's put you in hospital and then blocked you. Absolutely not. That is vile. That's genuinely vile. That's just a nasty person. You don't even need to see him again if he's like that. He obviously felt so guilty that he's like such a um what's the word i'm looking for um like a coward like

he's a coward oh yeah massive coward that's awful i'm actually so sorry that's horrendous fuck me i'm never going on a date again that is so oh my god I hope you're okay get rid of that boy have you ever been in a car crash yeah I have have you yeah I've been in

about four car crashes but bad ones bad bad bad one time I was the fourth car in nine cars when was this

yeah really bad this was um god I'd be like how old am i now 24 maybe like seven years ago in america me and my friends were going to bush gardens and the guy that was driving i didn't know him me and my friend was sat in the back and yeah it was a nine car crash and i mean the car was absolutely destroyed it's really sad two people died like like absolutely awful if we was the car in front we probably wouldn't have survived like how

we survived i don't know came out completely fine like oh my god yeah ended up being completely fine but i remember that i actually still remember like the hit because it was, it felt so horrendous. Like, I was so, like, taken back and it was so painful. But, like, we all walked out completely fine. Like, crazy because the first three cars were awful. And all the other cars were obviously all banged into each other. And, like, everyone's bumpers and stuff were taken off and, like, the cars were all written off. But all us guys behind were completely fine. and like everyone's bumpers and stuff were taken off and like the cars were all written off but

all us guys behind were completely fine that is i have no idea yeah and another time actually harriet's mum was driving me and harriet when we were younger to a dance competition and her and my mum were in the front talking and bang car crash it was again like quite a bad car crash um but obviously we all walked out completely fine and then we still went to the dance competition and a truck had to drive us there and it was like an hour and a half away and we're in this like huge truck and they were driving us to our dance competition oh it's so weird that was another time i had a car yeah i've actually been quite a few. Well, you learn something new every day.

I had no idea you'd even been in one. Yeah, the worst one was the US one. That was like really, really bad. Yeah, that is horrendous. And I've witnessed a lot as well. Like one time when I was younger, I actually saw somebody die on a motorbike. So sad. The car in front of us had hit a guy on a motorbike

and we were the car behind. Yeah, I know. I did not know any of this. my god i guess it's just not really something you talk about obviously i've walked out and i'm completely fine so i guess it's just something i've like spoken about but yeah like i trust myself more driving than other people because it's never been me when i've been driving yeah so you feel safer behind the wheel does make me a bit like anxious when other people are driving but yeah yeah crazy oh my god loads of it every day i did not know all that happened to you you've been in a car crash too i didn't know that either yeah but i've been in a

car crash as well it wasn't like awful i was coming back from school and i remember my mum when we're gonna crash she said it before happened. Because the lorry slammed his brakes on the motorway. So she knew. So she screamed it. We smashed into the back of him. My mum's all of her arms down here. Smashing into a lorry is really bad. Yeah.

The full front of our car went like that. All my down here, my mum's arm was burned from where the car had gone on fire. And then she told me to, she was like, get out. And I tried to open my door. My door had locked. she was like get out and i i tried to open my door my door had locked i couldn't get out so she yanked me out the um driver's seat and the car just went and we would just watch it on the way we were like but i remember that day so vividly because i'd baked bread at school and my bread was on the in the car and i remember the first thought was oh my god my

bread which is so stupid because i was so young i thought oh my god my bread bread. Which is so stupid. Because I was so young. I thought, oh my God, my bread. I dyed it pink and put chocolate chips in it. And I was really sad about the bread. Not the car, the bread. Michael, that's actually, I didn't know that about you either. You know, my brother got run over by a car. No, didn't know that.

How has this happened from quick fire dating dilemmas? I don't know. Yeah, my brother's got run over by a car. He's been hit by a car before. Did or Casey? Casey. Oh my God. I can't think yeah my brother's got run over by a car he's been hit by a car before did or Casey? Casey yeah oh my god so often and my little cousin not that long ago got hit by a car and I feel like they need to do something better for kids that are walking home from school well now the pod is raising awareness on all of this because wow yeah no there actually should be like a better like system for like kids that are to be fair my brother is

probably his fault he didn't look out in the road like that actually was his fault but yeah my little cousin it was not her fault oh my god that is awful i know well i'm glad you guys know all this information now about the fact we've been in car crashes we'll uh round it up i don't know how we've just gone there you go neither do i but thank you all so much for listening be sure to check us out on the socials and subscribe to the pod on spotify so you don't miss out on any other future goss and we will see you on thursday for our bonus episode see you guys