Sex, Lies & DM Slides - 117. Love Is Blind UK's Catherine Richards Reveals All....

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

Today is a veeerrrry exciting episode, as we are joined by Love Is Blind UK's Catherine Richards!! Catherine spills the tea on everything that went down on the show - from how she became a contestant, how the process works, what it was like seeing Freddie for the first time, and how the relationship quickly broke down. Catherine also has some shocking revelations about Freddie and what REALLY happened after the wedding, you don't want to miss this! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's a new day. How can you make the most of it with your membership rewards points? Earn points on everyday purchases. Use them for that long-awaited vacation. Points never expire, so use them how you want. That's the powerful backing of American Express. On eligible cards, terms apply. Learn more at mx.ca. Summer's here, and you can now get almost anything you need delivered with Uber Eats. What do we mean by almost? You can't get a well-groomed lawn delivered, but you can get chicken parmesan delivered. Sunshine? No. Welcome back to another episode of Sexualized and DM Sides with me, Saffron Barker.

And me, Anastasia Kings-North. So it is Tuesday and we are back for another episode. And let me tell you, today's episode is very, very, very exciting. We are joined with Catherine, who was on Love is Blind UK. And I feel like this has recently been one of the biggest shows that everybody is talking about. And I was so excited to have her on the pod. This is the only season I've seen of the show, by the way.

I saw the American one. Is this the first UK season? I think it is. Yeah, maybe that's why. The first UK one. And when I tell you guys we have got the real tea, like I don't think you're actually ready. No, no, no, I was genuinely gobsmacked

and it just goes to show how things can be edited to look so differently. Like everything Catherine was telling us, I was genuinely gobsmacked and I feel so bad for her. Like I actually can't believe it was so different to how it was shown. Like, oh, just honestly, you wait until you hear the things that she told us. Like it is actually crazy. And it's really given us an insight to this show. So I am very, very excited for you guys to see this.

Me too. So any of you who don't actually know what Love is Blind is, just as a kind of like brief breakdown, it's basically where a group of single men and a group of single women go on dates in different pods, but they don't actually see each other. So right up until you get engaged, you're talking to somebody behind a wall. So it's kind of like a social experiment. Yeah, it's all about eliminating the way that you look to kind of like provide a deeper connection, I guess. And it's always been a concept I'm really intrigued by

because we've actually spoken about like, is love blind on the podcast before? And we're like, oh, could we get to know somebody without, you know, seeing what they look like? So it was really interesting to get to ask her about the whole process and believe me, she has just told us everything. The girl did not hold back.

Oh, I just, yeah, I don't wanna ruin anything, but anyways, we love her and we're very, very excited. I feel like we should just dive into it. It's just really opened my eyes. It's just absolutely crazy. Anyways, yeah, we love her, so let's just dive straight into this podcast. Let's go. This NFL season, get in on all the hard-hitting action with FanDuel, North America's number one sportsbook.

You can bet on anything from money lines to spreads and player props, or combine your bets in a same-game parlay for a shot at an even bigger payout. Plus with super simple live betting, lightning fast bet settlement, and instant withdrawals, FanDuel makes betting on the NFL easier than ever before. So make the most of this football season and download FanDuel today. 19-plus and physically located in Ontario. Gambling problem? Call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca. What made you decide to sign up to Love is Blind? Do you know what?

I was having a really bad day. I just got back from Portugal and I was dating this guy abroad. And then it just went Pete Tong. And literally I remember being in the gym and he had just called things off. Well, he kind of ghosted me. I was like, what is my life?

Like I was literally on the phone. I was like, what am I doing? Don't want to do that. And then within that second, I had a DM from Lovers Blind. I was about to say, so they didn't reach out to you, but they did. Yeah, they reached out to me. Wow. But you know what it's like, you get all these TV shows that DM people and it's like, is it real? I was like, what's the worst that could happen? So I applied and then it got really serious.

And I was like, I should probably tell my manager. And that was literally it. Wow, as easy as that. That's crazy. I mean, the process was long. It wasn't, there was a lot of like Zoom calls and trying to show yourself, but I literally got a DM within minutes of things.

So did they tell you, it's cause one of my best friends just went on Love Island and when they first approached her, they never said it's Love Island. They were like, there's a, it's a date. Like she knew it was Love Island. Yeah, I knew it was Love is Blind. But you know, it was, it's a dating show, like,

but they didn't tell her. So did they tell you it was Love is Blind? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they told me it was Love is Blind. And I was like, oh, like, like I'm not gonna get it. And then yeah, here I am. I wasn't even meant to go on the show. I was actually a reserve.

You're a reserve. Oh my God, that's crazy. Yeah, I was a reserve. How long were you in the audition process for? Like what is the process like? I was in the audition process like three months, just over three months. And then I got told three days before they started

flying everyone to Sweden that they want me. So I went to London with my mum and then they were like, Kat, what are you doing on Friday? And I was like, oh, and they were like, we want you on the show. I was like, okay, that was literally it. I had like three days to pack, go back to Jersey, pack and go. But I didn't even realise they filmed it in Sweden as well. I thought it was in the UK for some reason. No, it was in the UK for some reason. No, it was in Sweden. But it's such a crazy concept.

Did the idea of it not absolutely terrify you? Do you know what? I was just so excited to leave work. I was like, this is it. I've got a holiday. I'm leaving work. I'm going to be the love of my life. Yeah.

I didn't actually think I'm going to get married. That did not go through my thought process. I was like, this is going to be fun. I was like, God, I'm turning 30, I'm bored of life, this is exciting. Yeah, well to be fair, you didn't really have time to think about it. You had three days. All these girls, I remember rocking up and all the girls had planned their outfits and they had like their rollers in. I literally came off from the beach in a bikini and my hair like see-saw in and all these girls were glam and I was like what am I doing? It's really intimidating. I was going to ask how was it like meeting all the girls for the first time?

I absolutely hated it. So my friendship group is very small back at home. It's very cliquey and then when I met 15 women I was like. It's a lot. It's like you feed yourself to the lions. Like so many personalities. It was just, it's a lot. It's like you feed yourself to the lions. Like so many personalities. It was just, yeah, it's a lot. But then also as well, it's like, obviously they're your friends. Like they're the only people at this,

at the beginning of the show that you meet. But at the same time, you know that you're all speaking to the same people, like getting to know the same people. It's just weird, cause like in the real world, you're not speaking to the same guy your best friend's speaking to. Well, if you live in Jersey, you do. Well.

Oh, okay, small town. Okay, where I'm living, I'm on doing that. Yeah, but this is what I mean. The UK is so big in Jersey. I've said it so many times, it is so small. So, but yeah, that whole thing is really- I actually have been to Jersey. I've been there once.

Oh, yes. Yeah, I've been there once. I actually loved it when I went. Why? One of my friends has a house there and they was having a party or something and she just invited me over. And her other friend was like a partner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I was like, oh, I'll just, yeah, why not? I just hopped a lot. Yeah, it's nice, but yeah, no. It's small. Yeah, everyone owes everyone. Yeah, exactly. Okay, well at least you were kind of used to that. Yeah, I was like, it's fine, it's normal for me.

Okay, so what was it like then, to say like the first day in the pods, how did it all kind of play out? Like how many dates did you have? So day one, we dated everyone. So we dated all of the 15 boys. In the first day? First day, so when it got to number 15,

I was like brain dead. I was like, you're like a robot repeating yourself. I was about to say, but you was an autopilot. Yeah. It is so tiring. So, but you do kind of know who you click with straight away. Like it's quite easy. But yeah, it's very tiring.

And that was literally it. Did you date, like, did you date a lot before this? Like was you a data as such? No, I hate dating. I hate going out for dinner with someone on a first date. I think it's like cringy, I can't do it. I hate drink, like going for drink. I'm just not a data, like I don't like it.

What do you think it is like? Cause I'm kind of the same. Like I'm not a very good data because I hate the having to get to know someone part. Like I just don't, it's long. It's so boring. And I feel like it's hard because you're like,

you don't know where you stand, do you lie at them? Do they like you? Am I gonna get ghosted? It's such, they've got no choice here. They have to be behind that wall. So yeah. That was quite nice though, because you know that you're all in the same boat.

Yeah. I'm so curious as to like how long was each date? Cause 15 dates in a day is a lot. The first date I think was eight or 11 minutes, maybe eight minutes. Oh, okay, it's quite short. Very like speed dating vibes. Yeah, and then the longer you go into the process,

the longer the dates are. So I think mine and Freddie's date ended up being like over two hours, but they tell you like,, your next date's going to be two hours. So you know. I've done TV shows where like things should take eight minutes, but it's not because they're making you repeat lines. No, the dates. Well, that's obviously like the retreat and the home.

Sure. Okay. But on the dating parts, you were literally just doing the dates. Yeah. So we've got like someone who like speaks like, you know, Love Island, they say like the voice of God or whatever. Yeah. We've got that and it's like, right, two minutes left, 30 seconds left.

And you're like, oh wow. And they literally like cut it off. And you have to leave the room. They say, right, female pod, please stay there or male pod, please stay there. So then you know, like who's going out and then like you'll enter. Because it's all to do with like filming is so weird. Yeah, who's going out and then like you'll enter. Cause it's all to do with like filming is so weird. But it becomes normal so quickly.

I just couldn't imagine like, it's funny because you know when you watch a show, it's the one time I watched and I'm like, I just don't know if I could do it. Like I love the show, but I watch it and I just think to not know who I'm talking to, like even if somebody's telling me a story, I'm like, can you show me a picture

so I can put a face to them? You do, honestly, it's so hard, unless you're in it. It's really weird. I remember I used to see the American one on like Google box when they used to watch it. And they'd be like, how do they like get engaged? When you're there, I was like, marry me. I'm gonna have your children tomorrow.

But I suppose it's because it's all you're thinking about as well, like you've got nothing else to think about apart from trying to find a husband. Was it weird when you'd meet people? Like not even Freddie but like just anyone and they just didn't look how you expected them to look? Yeah, so obviously on the retreat I met the other males with their cup for the very first time and I was like what the hell? Because we're told not to discuss what they look like, so it's a big surprise. Yes, I wanted to know this.

Were you allowed to say like, I've got long hair? Oh my God, no, I remember saying, I think I said to Freddie, like, do you like, no, do you tan or something? And they were like, female pod, please stop. And I got told off quite a lot, because I was like, I have a tattoo, yay. I would be doing questions like that all the time.

Yeah it got to the point where I was like... Like naturally you just those questions would come out of your mouth. It do you know what again it by like date number three like day three you're kind of getting into the swing of it it honestly it just becomes so normal and you are guided so you're not just there like what am I doing? So after like day one then to say we're on today too now Then do you still date 15 people? No, so at the end of the day you get like a sheet and you have to rank the boys Like one to fifty Wow So you I think it's like your top ten is like what they focus on and then that's how they kind of match you up

So I always had like my top three or four were like the same boys throughout the whole process. So then I always was gonna see them. Got you. Wow, that's crazy. As if they'd all do it by a little spreadsheet at the end of the day. And like before the show, do you think that you were like,

I'd like to think that we all obviously really care about personality, but do you think you was always very like personality focused or do you think this show? I remember going, like, because I used to work in and Ibiza and I was like, I want this tall guy, I want, you know, like your stereotypical tall, and now I'm older and I went on the show

and I was like, do you know what, it really isn't about looks, it is literally how they treat you and their morals, genuinely, and then that will make a guy attract, like you'll find them attractive by that. Yeah, cause it is crazy how somebody can make you feel a certain way when you can't see them and you're on another side of a wall.

That's what I can't imagine. Like I just can't imagine that feeling of like liking somebody, but not knowing what they look like. But like- But I just think I'd overthink, like it would stress me out too much. Cause I'll be sat there every day guessing what they look like. Well you you do and then the worst is so when you get proposed to you don't see them that day

You actually have to see them the next day. So you're going to bed like Your mind is spinning. I'm marrying this person by yeah, and that is just For the overthinkers and I do overthink but but my pod journey was actually, I was really lucky in my journey. Like I didn't really have much stress where some of the girls were like, strike, they couldn't sleep. Like it was just dreadful. And I went to bed quite happy every night.

Was Freddie what you expected him to look like in your head? In your head, what did he look like? I had no idea. I honestly thought, firstly, I thought he had like some Jamaican background. Honestly I had to ask him like his background. Don't know why. Wait what? And then I thought he was like a skater boy.

Okay. Honestly I don't know. But when obviously when it was revealed, I did not expect that human to come out. And then I remember like when he spoke for the first time, I saw him, I was like, what? Very weird. I think it would be hard to like put together, like you're falling in love with this person, but then actually seeing them,

like putting two and two together must be really hard. Yeah, it's really, it messes with your mind. Yeah, I can imagine it really does. Like I just can't imagine being in that situation. I think it's such a unique experience that you've got to go through. It's changed my mindset on dating in a whole different level.

It really has. But do you think in a good way? Yes. I actually think it's important that someone got to know me behind a wall for my path. They didn't go just by looks. It's literally- And that is actually the biggest compliment,

isn't it, really? Yeah. That somebody's completely fallen for you, just your personality, like that is such an amazing compliment. Literally, yeah, it's life-changing. You know how you were saying that you basically got ghosted then literally the same day?

If that had happened to me, that would be enough for me to be like, it's a fucking side. It's a side. I've got to go on the show. Well, I thought it was a side, but you know with TV it's so hard that you apply for these shows

and it's really hard to get it. Like there could be one little thing that producers are just like, do you know what? It's like, I wasn't even meant to go on. Like they told me I was a, I was a, I was a reserve. So when I got the call, I was like, this is a sign. And then to even get chosen to go on the retreat, I was like, what is going on? Like this is it. Because obviously there's not all couples get picked to go on. Yeah, see, I didn't know that.

I only found out after the show that only certain people get picked. Like how long did you have to wait to find out if you got picked or not? So I didn't know, a lot of the people knew the process. I was so, I had no idea. And so after the engagement, you get told someone will come and say, right, you're going to on the retreat or you're not.

So yeah, it was literally after the engagement you get told. Yeah, that is crazy that not everyone goes on it. I think I got told at midnight and then I flew at six o'clock in the morning back to London ready for the retreat. But you have to pack. So when you go on the show, you have to prepare yourself for the whole entire show. So you had summer clothes and a holiday clothes with you. Well, because I was a reserve, I had like nothing.

But yeah, it may do what I had. That's actually crazy. I would literally be thinking it's a sign. I've met the love of my life. Like this is it, like I'm very. I literally, I was praying for a lot of the whole way through because every girl wants to make it through. So yeah, it's a lot.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. So what point did you think to myself, I'm in love with Freddie? Like at what point did it like hit you and you're like, Oh my God, I actually think I'm in love with this guy. When we, so you know, we had a discussion about our grandparents. Yes.

So I was crying because my grandparents recently passed away. So they cut that out. So it looked like I was just crying because he like, No, but that is just TV for you though. Like it looked like I was just crying because he like. No, but that is just TV for you though. Like they cut like the best parts and you're like what? It cut so much out. But that conversation, I was like, this is meant to be.

Like this is not a coincidence. And then that's when, yeah, I just kind of closed everything off of everyone and focused on Freddie. Oh my God, wow. That is just, and also, because I've always been curious, when you're in the pods, how does it work in the living area? How much time do you spend going back there?

Oh, you're there from eight in the morning until 11 at night. You're there all day. You don't sleep there, so we stay in hotels and then we get transferred every day. Right, okay, yeah, because I was wondering where you guys are, whether you all stayed in this whole set.

Yeah, I thought you'd stay in there. No, no, no, the boys are in a separate hotel in Sweden and the females are in the other, and then we've literally transferred. But you can't go outside, because obviously if you see the boys, it is very strict. Because if we see the boys, the show's over.

Then it's ruined, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we could hear the boys from the girls' lounge, and I remember on day one when we were all getting mic'd up, we could hear the boys, and I was like, oh my god, this is it. No way. Yeah, it's so weird.

And was it awkward when one of the girls came back and they were like, I really enjoyed this date, and you were thinking, well, I really enjoyed that date too? Again, I was really lucky, because nobody was actually dating Freddie like that. Right, okay. But there was other girls that would be crying, like some flew home, like it was mad. Some flew home?

That's crazy. Yeah, because if you get broken up, so if someone breaks up with you and you've got no other connection. Then yeah, then you're done. What are you doing? God, it's like, it's, I didn't really realise how like emotionally stressful the process must actually be. Yeah, and because we're, well I would say,

Love Island is very much middle 20s, where Love is Blind, we are all 30 onwards. Yes. So it's so serious for us, because we do want that in result. Yeah, that's true actually, that does make a huge difference. Yeah.

So for us, marriage and kids. Whereas a 20 year old would definitely be less bothered. Exactly, I see, I watch Love Island all the time, and it's like, oh they break up and watch Love Island all the time and it's like, oh, they break up and stuff. But like with this show, it's like, we are ready to have children and get engaged. That's what we want. So yeah, it's mad.

And do you think most people on the show did get approached like you got approached? Like it wasn't something they thought about, but just got approached for it. I don't know, I think, I know a few people got approached. I'm sure Freddie applied for some odd reason. Don't know why, he applied. Some odd reason. Like don't know why, he applied. Some odd reason.

Like don't know why. Yeah, cause I couldn't imagine applying like. I don't think I could apply. One of those things like if you get approached, you're like, wow, you know, like applying for it. I don't know. I wouldn't have applied, but I'm definitely happy I got approached.

And it's funny because like after other people you had connections with, when you like met them, did you think, oh, thank goodness, like, not like horribly, but did you think, oh, thank goodness, I didn't end up with them because it wouldn't, it just wouldn't have. When I saw Ollie at the retreat, I was like, nah. Straight away like, no. Yeah. I remember I had an interview and they tried to test you like, so is any other guy caught

your eye? Obviously I was with Freddie. So I was like, no, like I'm absolutely set with my, with my guy. And I remember they had me and Ollie have a conversation and we're trying to like twist it to make it look like we had, and I remember cause I'm like, no, not for, his voice sounded very attractive,

but when I saw him, I was like, oh no. Not for me. Not for you. Yeah, I was very happy at that point with who I was with. What did you think was the most like testing part of the experiment for you or like the hardest part? Probably the living situation because you're trying to plan your wedding,

form a connection, learn how to live with someone who you don't know. It's mental, plan your wedding. Yeah, that's mental. And then you're filming, you're making a TV show and then you're going to bed at night. So it's like, it's really weird. You can't form a connection with someone

when you're so focused on a TV, like you're building a TV show, but then you're having to plan a wedding. Well, when you mean you're planning a wedding, are you actually planning the wedding? No, so you get given like, they'll give you options for like a wedding cake, and they'll be like, right, which one do you want?

And then they'll be like, can you please create a playlist? Oh, well, that's actually quite nice because I would yeah, you'd get like no I thought you just kind of turn up to the wedding like they've arranged it. You've just to be honest I think I would rather that because the pressure was ridiculous because yeah to like balance everything You're still getting to know this person. I'm never being like to freddy every day Like can you just sit down and bloody help me plan this wedding that potentially isn't going to happen. It's so stressful because you don't know if it's happening or not. That's the stress of it yeah you actually don't know if it's going to

happen at the end of it so you're planning a wedding day like oh yeah with the unknown. And this is why I was getting so annoyed because he'd be like having doubts about the wedding so I was like right I'm not going to plan it but then he's like no no no let's plan it and I'm like what is going on? It's a head man. Yeah, I can really imagine. So how long were you in that living situation for again? It was like four weeks. Which in the grand scheme of things, to plan a wedding whilst also trying to get to know somebody

whilst going through all of this, it's really not a lot of time. Exactly, and you're still filming. So you still got to meet the family, meet the friends. You've obviously got date nights that you're filming. So it's 24, we had one day off. It's so backwards, isn't it? Because I even think when you get to know someone

on social media and you know them so well, when you meet them, it's almost like quite awkward. Like I don't want to get to know somebody really well on social media because then I have nothing to talk about when I see them. But like you guys know each other so well, you're getting married and now it's like, and now you see each other and it's a,

I don't know, like it's such a weird concept. Well, you say you know each other so well, but at the end of the day in the pods, you're talking about intense stuff. And then when you're living together, you're like, actually, I don't know this person. Yeah, like you don't know how they live, like they're normal like day to day.

Yeah, and seeing them around other couples and what they're like with alcohol, like it's such a big thing. Yeah, that's true. Like even like how they react to a waiter, like you're not gonna get to know that in a pod. Yeah, and that's when me and Freddie start to crack because after the pods,

we were better just behind the wall. Like it was just like, and then yeah, in real life, it was just like nothing. What do you think were the biggest like differences between you two then? Like the diff, because that you didn't notice in the pod, to what you notice in person. So he's very much, he has a routine.

So he's literally wake up, he has the same breakfast every day, he goes to the gym, and that's him, day in, day out. Where I like to socialize and go out for dinner on the other occasion and have a bit of fun. And he was not like that. It was just, although he says he's not like that, but he is like that.

But on the TV show, it was very much vanilla. Like there was nothing, he didn't wanna do anything. Right, okay. And so in the pod, like, so you never, I guess you never spoke about those things, you never spoke about like- Well, we bonded over because we have such a healthy lifestyle. Like I love the gym, I love training, I love eating clean, I like making my...

So we were like, oh my God, this is great. There's a guy that... I think there's a thing and I'm like, oh my God, we go to the gym twice a day. We were laughing at it. But then in the real world, I was like, no, this isn't... That's all he does. Yeah. I was like, well, I remember saying, should we go for a walk?

And it was like, oh no, no, no, I'm just going to stay here. I was like, right, okay. But stay, should we go for a walk? And it was like, oh, no, no, no, I'm just gonna stay here. And I was like, right, okay. But stay and do what? He would just do nothing, genuinely just sit and watch TV. And then obviously then I start to lose who I am. And then it was just like, yeah, it was just. It's one of those things, isn't it?

When you've realized that you don't like someone, like I couldn't imagine just living, like, so I live by myself. Yeah, I do too. The idea of living with somebody stresses me out, let alone like somebody that I'm like, I couldn't imagine just living, so I live by myself. Yeah, I do too. The idea of living with somebody stresses me out, let alone somebody that I'm just different to, everything they would do, it's one of those things, isn't it?

Is that when you get the ick, everything they do gives you the ick? Oh my God. It's like if somebody annoys me and they were living in the same house, I then think everything they would do would start to piss me off. Yeah, the ick is my,

I remember going into the pause and saying, the ick is my biggest I remember going into the pause and saying the ick is my biggest fear. Like what do I do if I get the ick, like you were screwed. And I'm like that now in real life. Like if I get the ick, or like I live with my partner now, and every day I'm like if I get the ick, then what am I gonna do? Do I go high? Like, oh, it is so weird as a female, my brain,

but I get it, I've lived on my own my whole entire life. That's crazy. And so did you find that it was just being on top of each other that was just really hard as well? Obviously being on top of each other, it's a big thing, but yeah, we're just so different. Like, I don't know, ours was a bit spicy and he was just a bit vanilla.

Yes, you just clash. Yeah, you're in such a bubble when you're in the pod. So like, you know, like you're gonna almost romanticize every little thing that you find in common. So naturally when you come into the house, it's gonna be a bit different, but let's talk about the wedding then. Sorry, I was just about to say, Usain, he's vanilla.

Someone behind a wall is gonna have so much more confidence as well. You are gonna be more confident. It's like a keyboard warrior. Like they'll say anything online, but you wouldn't say that to somebody's face. I always laugh. My friend's story is like, the say anything online, but you wouldn't say that to somebody's face. Like I always, I always laugh. Like my friend's story is like, the amount of times like,

and this happened to me as well, like, you know, a guy is like really trying to flirt with you. And it's like, oh, like the things I'd love to do to you. And you'd see them and like, just nothing like that. Like it's just bullshit. Like it kind of reminds me of that. Like you can say anything cause you're behind a wall. But then like you meet in person,

it's like, but you're not doing what you said. Do you know what I mean? You don't do what you're behind a wall. But then like you meet in person, it's like, but you're not doing what you said. Do you know what I mean? You don't do what you said you'd do. Nailed it on the head. I can actually understand how that happens. Even when you were in the living situation then, like let's talk about the wedding day, but were you gonna say yes?

Like- So I wanted to say yes. Well, I did say yes because one, I wanted to prove to him that, cause he had this fixation that I was like too good for him. And I was eating at Nobu every day. I've never been to Nobu in my bloody life. And the prenup thing as well, I saw about that.

Well, I agreed with him with the prenup. They cut it out. So I actually said, I don't want anything of yours. Give it to your sister. OK. But he just had this fixation that I just was like this girl that I wasn't. And I was like, I want to prove to you that I am good for you. I am. Because I was so in that bubble. That's why I said, obviously, yeah. So were you surprised with the outcome? Because obviously on the day of the wedding, he gave

you the earrings. Oh, don't. So in my, I'm like, why did you bring your friends and family to that? Why did you bring your brother? Yes. Because the amount, the effort that Netflix went through to actually get his brother there was... Really? And same with my family, because my family were in Jersey

and I said to him, if it's a no, let me know and I would just have my friends, like I won't. Yeah. And yeah, it was just very mixed. Like he would sit down and plan the wedding with me, but then he would be like, oh, I have doubts. I'm like, but then why are you planning the wedding with me? Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. See, I always thought like that part of the show must somewhat be like a fix because surely you can't lead someone on that march and then say like, no, like you just surely you can't read it. It's really weird because I've obviously watched the show and I saw all the little like we call it myths, the interviews that he says about me like, yeah, on camera and I'm like, well, you weren't saying that to my face.

So I was just getting such a mixed signal, which is why I was frustrated from start to finish. Yeah, it weren't nice. And the earrings and the whole, I'm gonna make it work after the wedding was absolute bullshit. Like it was- Yeah, so what happened after the wedding?

Oh, he ended it. He just ended it. On the wedding day? No, so he came back to Jersey with me. So I stayed in his hotel and he was like, oh, I'm just gonna go to my sister's room. Is that all right? And I was like, we've just had a wedding

that's just gone Pete Hough. Like I'm just strong. You're better than me, because I'd not be going back to Jersey with him. Let me tell you. If that had happened to me, I'd be like, right, I'm out of here. I look back at it now and I'm like,

why did I go back to his house? I didn't see my friends and family for two days. I stayed, I was just so isolated. And anyway, then he came, he flown to Jersey and it was weird. He wouldn't even hold my hand. But he was telling me he still wanted to be with me. Anyway, he flew home and then I said to him,

when shall I see you again? He was like, oh, let's not rush things. I was like, you've just stayed engaged with me. Like, so then in the end he, yeah, he called it off and it was the best thing he ever did. Yeah. Cause it seemed like his actions weren't matching up to the words that he was saying. Well, he actually told me after the retreat that there was no feelings for me. He's lost feelings to me straight after the retreat. So when you see me so emotionally up and down, insecure, that's why.

Wow. Yeah, and that lot came up. So we got our phones back when we were in London. And I remember it was a few days before the wedding. And my bridesmaid who lives in his area sent me something that he was messaging someone two days before my wedding. Oh my goodness, you also had that in your mind on your wedding day as well.

Oh yeah. Which obviously nobody got to see on the actual show. No, there's so much that happened with him that just was not shown. Like what I found at his house, what his best friend said to me, like there is, honestly. Oh no, you had to tell us, what did you find at his house? What the fuck, what can you find at someone's house?

Apart from a door hanging off. I remember the door wasn't on the frame. That was actually funny. I'm such a nosy fucker. I'm going to go in his drawers. I found like literally about 10 empty condoms just in his drawer. And the camera crew were there. I was going to say, was this on camera?

Yeah. And I was like, what's this? And he was like, oh, well, at least I'm being safe. I was like, you told me you'd asked, like, was someone in February? Like, we are now, like, September. That is crazy. Why are they in the drawer and not the bin? Don't even.

What? They were a lot. And then when I met his best friend, his best friend, like, sat me down and was like, yeah, I'm really surprised that you're like 29 because Freddie only dates like 22 year olds. How old is he? 30 something.

Right, okay. Yeah, 32 maybe. But you were so strong for you to be able to be like, you know, you still wanted to make it work. You were still like, I'm gonna prove myself. Like after all of this, I still have that mindset is amazing. So props to you. Don't this, I still have that mindset, is amazing. So props to you for that.

Well don't forget, like you're in the bubble, so. Oh cool. Yeah. Like you ignore the red flags completely. I know that's me in every relationship. I ignore every red flag. If I'm in the bubble, I'm like, I'm in now. No, you gotta learn, you gotta learn.

No, I actually feel like I've learned now. I feel like my last relationship has really taught me. Like I've learned now, but like, you can completely, I actually feel like I've learned now. I feel like my last relationship has really taught me. Like I've learned now, but like, I can, you can completely like, I understand that. Like I've been in the bubble way too many times. See now I'm like any little flag. But like sometimes you have to go through it for it to actually teach you a lesson.

A hundred. So, you know, and it falls back. I'd like to tell myself everything happens for a reason. So it does. You know what it really does. And so like, even though the experience wasn't what you expected, you don't regret doing the show. As much as it was stressful, I feel so grateful

and I've learned so much about myself and what I wanted in my next relationship. So it's done me a favor. So you're in a relationship now. If you wasn't in a relationship, which I know is hard because you're in a relationship, would you do it again? No.

Really? Why not? I think the concept is good, meeting someone on your path, but would I get married to someone after two months? No. And is it by the way, a fully like legally binding wedding? Yeah, we had to sign wedding documents. See, I didn't think it was,

like I always thought like it wasn't like legit. No, so married at first sight is just a ceremony. That's not legit. Love is blind is a legit, we actually went to the registry office and signed to wedding documents before we flew to Corfu to say that we can actually get married. That is crazy.

I did not think it was like got actual signing documents. No, yeah, it's a full, so me and Freddie would be having a divorce right now If we were yes, did you know what babe is? That sounds really fucking stressful. Yeah, I mean I've got the dress and the ring like it's great but yeah No, not a divorce. Thanks. Well, that is the end of this episode Now we actually had too many questions and too many things to speak about So if you want to hear about her life after the show, we're going to do a full part two.

It will be out on Thursday. And there's way more tea. Way more. Yeah. Like this is actually wild. If you think that was juicy. I think this is the part I'm most excited for you guys to hear. Meet it. Like if you thought that was juicy, get ready for Thursday. Like set your alarm because it is wild. Very excited. So we should see you guys then. See you on Thursday.