Sex, Lies & DM Slides - 118. Love Is Blind UK's Catherine Richards Reveals All | Part 2

Episode Date: September 26, 2024

Today is a veeerrrry exciting episode, as we are joined by Love Is Blind UK's Catherine Richards!! Catherine spills the tea on everything that went down on the show - from how she became a contestant, how the process works, what it was like seeing Freddie for the first time, and how the relationship quickly broke down. Catherine also has some shocking revelations about Freddie and what REALLY happened after the wedding, you don't want to miss this! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's Thursday. It's a bonus episode. However, we are back for a special. We don't normally do this, but we felt like there was too many questions. The last episode was too good. So this is part two of our interview with, say interview, I felt like I was just on FaceTime with a friend. Same, girly chat. Girly chat, but with Catherine, who was on the TV show, Love is Blind. So if you haven't seen the first episode, definitely go and give that a watch.

I think this show is the craziest concept I've ever known and just the most insane experiment. And it's one of those shows I've always had a conversation with my friends like, would you be able to do it? And I don't think personally, I'd be able to put myself through it, but Catherine did and her story is just crazy. This episode now is gonna be about her life after the show.

And honestly, the tea that she spills, it just gets crazier and crazier and crazier. Like it really was insane. My jaw was dropping several times during this part. So I hope you enjoy. You're gonna love this part, let me tell you. Let's get into it. Okay, so let's talk about life after the show as well.

First of all, when was this filmed? Last year. Literally this time last year. So it would probably be like mine and Freddie's wedding day, like this time last year, like a roundabout. Wow, and you're not allowed to speak about it, are you? No, no. At all. Was that hard?

Not being able to... I was really lucky. So a lot of my work were actually my wedding guests, so I could talk about it at all. Was that hard? Not being able to... I was really lucky. So a lot of my work were actually my wedding guests. So I could talk about it at work. But in terms of like my patience and like going back to your normal job after what had happened, you're like, you're on a down cut. I'm like, what is going on? I was really miserable. You've experienced like the most insane thing that somebody could go through and it's like, you can't speak about any of it But you know that you're also gonna have to relive it and it's coming in a year's time

Yeah, so did they tell you when the show was coming out? Did you know how long they gave us a few days? They got pulled back and back and back and then yeah, then it also came out Even if you go on Love Island, it's like you come out the show, you don't go back to work. You've got a new job now. Yes. Just immediately. But that's good though. Because Love Island's life. That's so crazy to film.

Yeah, it's a year later. Yeah, you think, well, I've still got a year till it comes out. Yeah, and a lot changes in a year. Yeah. So I didn't realize how long ago it was filmed. Yeah. Okay, so when you watched the episodes then, where were you? Like, who were you with when you watched the first? I was here with Charlie, who is on the show, but he's not featured. And obviously Jake.

Yes. Yeah. So we were sat watching it. How did it feel watching it? Like? So Jake didn't, he only watched two episodes. He physically couldn't do it. Oh, wow. Okay. Because it just wasn't nice for him to watch. Exactly, his story wasn't shown, even though he went through the exact same process and he was engaged, but seeing my journey with Freddie,

it brought up a lot of emotion. It actually messed with my head. Like, yeah, so I remember going to bed and I was like to Jake, I felt like I was cheating on Freddie. But then I felt like it was just the way, cause you're watching, it brings up everything all over again.

Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot. And also as well, like I bet it's frustrating because there's so many things that they would have included. So like you're watching it back and you're like, they didn't happen like that. Or you're like, oh my God, they missed out.

And I've done shows as well and I'm like, I'm so excited for them to show this part. And they're fucking joking. Are you fucking joking? This is like the best part. And they don't show it and I'm like, you're actually joking. Yeah, I was so, I, we only watched the first episodes here and then I went to London where I had to watch the rest

of it in a hotel room because we had the reunion and stuff to film. And I remember being like, right, yeah, I'm excited. Like, I know I'm gonna look good because he said no. I said yes. Like I found X, Y, and Z at home and none of that was shown and it was the reverse. And I was like, I remember crying to Netflix being like, why?

Like I was gutted. I mean, how did- Sometimes they just run with the narrative. That's just- Yeah, they ran with the storyline and there has to be the villain and that was me. So how did you- And so you really felt like you was portrayed as a villain?

Oh yeah, I've never experienced that level of unhappiness before. Ripped from watching the show and- Yeah, like social media was like, like now I'm okay, like I've met a lot of people in like my industry, like from Love Island, they've helped me like get through it. But it's a tough world. Like I remember always saying, I wanna do reality TV,

but do you know what? Like when you're in it, it's actually, it's crazy. It's also really hard because before you were doing such like a normal job and you'd not experienced any of this So then I'm thrown into this world Times 10 like you've been on a Netflix a huge Netflix show and millions of people have watched Yeah, it's it's an insane amount to for any human to have to deal with. Yeah, your life changes overnight It's yeah, you go to bed

You know say normal human, and then you wake up and you're in the public eye like that. It's mad. And it's crazy that you don't get to watch it before, it even airs to prepare yourself for what's to come. You're watching it like a viewer. You're seeing what everyone else is seeing. That must be such a crazy thing to experience.

I mean. Yeah, it's really tough. Yeah, I just, yeah, I feel for you. Like that's horrible because I know as well. And do you know what? Like I watch shows and I take everything with a pinch of salt because I've been on shows so I know what it's like, but you know,

like people that haven't been on a TV show, like they just wouldn't understand that it's, you know, like people that haven't been on a TV show, like they just wouldn't understand that, you know, it's, it's so edited, like it will be made to, it's like, I don't even text people. Like if I ever was to have an argument with someone, I'll call them because like also a text can be seen in like a million different ways. A hundred percent. Like that conversation I had with Sam at the mixer, it was just showing to me like this massive thing. And I was like, oh my God, like he bloody gave me life for a couple of hours because Freddie was so boring.

Yeah, whereas I thought that they edited it to try and make it look as though you were almost like flirting with him when you weren't. Yeah, people just get so invested. Like I get people now like pulling me to one side, like where's Freddie? Like, oh my God, I'm like, oh my God, go away. Like go and date him yourself and figure it out.

That was gonna be really hard because you're in a new relationship now. Yeah. You're with Jake and like, obviously, so why wasn't his story shown? Cause you said he got engaged. Yeah, so like I said, Netflix literally pick five couples. And he just wasn't picked. Yeah, so the five couples are shown from start to finish

and if you're not, then you're not featured. Wow. Wow. It's cut, it's cut, bro. So he- That's crazy. It's quite nice though, in the sense of like, you've both gone through the same thing. Oh my God, yeah. Imagine if I wasn't dating somebody who wasn't from the pot.

They'd be like, they wouldn't get it. Yeah. It's, I couldn't even imagine. The only way we go home is together. From new season now streaming exclusively on Paramount Plus. A nice tan? Sorry, nope. But a box fan? Happily yes. A day of sunshine? No. A box of fine wines? Yes. Uber Eats can definitely get you that. Get almost, almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol in select markets. Product availability may vary by Regency app for details. So that's an amazing blessing that came out of the show. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

That's what we both say and we both say. Like it's a year later, we live together. It's nearly been a year. If it wasn't for the show, I wouldn't be here now. Yeah. Wow. That's absolutely crazy. And I guess, sorry, just going back to, obviously you felt like you were obviously made out

to be the villain. And I imagine that would have come with that backlash online and everyone having an opinion, but did you ever notice in person that people were like that? Or was it just online? I get really, I get girls mainly my age. I remember I was in the Ivy in Cardiff the other week and girls were like, I could hear them say my name. And then they were just bitching. I just turned around and was like, I can't hear you. And then in Selfridges, someone said,

how could she do that to Freddie? And I was just like, bite your tongue, bite your tongue. Because I forget I'm in the public eye. I'm not used to this. So everywhere I go, it is like, people are just... But everyone else has been lovely. But some people are, I can see them glaring because Freddy's this gorgeous guy, everyone just wants to date him.

On my Instagram photos, people are like, oh well Freddy's better looking and I'm like, that's actually disgusting that you're just saying. Yeah. So that's actually like the whole point of the show was not about looks. To beat the whole point. That was the whole... Yeah. They'll be like, well Jake's not as good looking

as Freddie and I'm like, this is actually disgusting. But I can't read it. You just gotta ignore it. Yeah, that's horrible because like somebody, like for me, before I ever like was in social media and never had anxiety, but now like I get anxiety when I go out because I'm like, are they talking about me because they like me or they talk about me because they hate me? Like it's just

unconscious. Oh my god I'm the exact same. So every restaurant I go to or anywhere I go to I have to scan the room, I have to sit down, proper look who's looking, address the public, get and then I can settle. Like my anxiety is off the roof from the minute I leave the house. Oh my god bless you That's actually horrible. It's hard, but I'm so grateful that I've met people now in the industry. So I have, I'm starting to build that family. And like you said, most people are lovely to you that come up to you. It's just like

the odds. Yeah. Even in like, you know, some events I've been to recently, I can see people like go, that's her, that's her. And I'm like, oh my God, is that a bad thing? Is that a good thing? Yeah, but you know what? You're probably more in your head about it. People are probably saying that's her,

like in a good way, but you just, like, I don't know myself. I think, yeah. I don't know, this industry is tough. Like, yeah. It is cutthroat. Isn't it? But you know what?

Like you know as well that you were true to yourself, and that's the most important thing. 100%. And I think if you know what, like you know as well that you were true to yourself and that's the most important thing. And I think if you know that, then that is literally the most important thing. Yeah. And that's what I say. I've been on podcasts and I'm like, what girl isn't insecure? What girl doesn't have their ups and downs?

Please. Because if you're perfect, then that baffles my mind. I was just so open on that show. If I was angry, I will show it. Yeah. Yeah. And I just think that's the best way to be. Is there anything you wish that they had shown on the show? I wish they'd shown him sitting me down at the very start being like, I have no feelings for you.

That would have completely changed. Yeah. It would have been a completely different narrative. Yeah, I remember crying at the pottery scene we did and being like, I just want to feel wanted. And I know people are saying, yeah, but Freddie was like, you know, giving him affection, but he wasn't.

I think what he stroked my arm about 10,000 times when we went shopping and it pissed me off because I was like, it was just annoying. And I wanted someone to just hold my hand and just hug me and be like, it was just annoying and yeah, I wanted someone just hold my hands and just hugged me and be like I've got you Yeah, and I remember like begging him for that like I remember the day before the wedding and being like I'm so excited to see you and he was like

I think he just put like thumbs up and Then after it I remember saying like I miss you and I was like, no I said are you gonna miss me and he was like, well, yeah Like, you know when you go on holiday with your friends and when you go home, you miss them, don't you? That's exactly what he said. And I remember being like this saying, and then I sat down and I was like, are you in love with me? He was like, well, you know, I love you. Like I love my mom. I love, I love my sister, my, you know, my sister's dog. And I was like, I'm not in this category. My sister's dog? Well he should have dated his sister but honestly that's a whole other kind of thing. It was just like

so that I knew very early on. But this is why I can imagine it was so frustrating for you because you obviously know all of this. I would be thinking to myself the whole thing's gonna be like I'm gonna be the one that's upset and crying and then you're like what the fuck? I'm gonna be powerful like loads of women are gonna react relate and then when it got to show I was like are you kidding? Like I've never screamed at the TV so much in my life. It's always scary how things can be edited to look a different way. Oh yeah he was on a dating app like the day after,

like it's ridiculous. Yeah, he doesn't need help with dating, he's fine. Yeah. He's doing just fine. Yeah, I'm sure. Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for him. Inzi, we went through that journey together and I'm happy we did.

Yeah, it's just. together and I'm happy we did. So did you speak to him before the reunion or was that the first time you genuinely had? Oh my god so Christmas last year I said let's be friends. I told him about Jake the minute me and him started talking. Yeah. I said let's be friends come on like this is silly we get on better as mates and he was like don't want to know you da da da da da. I was like okay that's fine. Two weeks before they released the cast he was blowing crying to me please aren't getting his best friends to message me please can you call him he was like I'd die for you I'll come and draw if you need me I'm there all of a sudden I was like where has it I remember saying to him like do you are you

wanting us back together like it really hurt my emotions like I didn't know if you wanted me back but no he was just worried about the outcome of the show. Oh, my God. Yeah. And now I've Yeah. And then I was having days where I was like, No, we can be friends. And then as the show was coming more out, I was like, I can't be your friend. And because I was very much like this, he was like, he was like, I can't do this. You're so up and down with me. And then that was that. And so did he like after the entirety of the show came out,

did he reach out to you though and say like, I'm sorry, things were portrayed this way or anything like that? No, he truly believes that what you saw was from start to finish. And I said to him, I texted him and I said, why did you tell me, you know, why did you tell me you have no feelings for me, but why did you continue the show? And he just couldn't physically answer it.

He's like, stop it, stop it. So yeah, it was, I told him to leave halfway through. I wanted to go home. But he wanted to stay in it. It's so intense. It's crazy that you don't see it. And honestly, I'm listening to this. I'm thinking this sounds like better TV.

Yeah, this is better TV than what we watched. Every couple has their own story off camera. This is what I mean. It's TV. And I get it. I've seen reality TV, but yeah, there's a lot you just, no one knows. Yeah. A lot. Oh my God. But he's fine. He's loving life and...

But so are you. So let's spin on a positive note. So am I. Exactly. So are you. So let's spin it on a positive note. So am I. So are you. So are you. I'm so grateful that I really am. Like even going to some events, I'm like, I remember sat there with like the Lovers Blind cast and people are like, oh my God, it's you from Lovers Blind. I'm like, wait, it's you from Lovers? Like, it's just weird. Yeah.

It's so weird. I want to know more about Jake. So how did this happen? Oh my God. I love it. Like people think that he was literally waiting for me like at the altar which was not happening. So he had a really rough journey in the pods and very emotional so I reached out to him two weeks after the wedding. He popped up on my social so I was like, oh, that's Jake. He didn't know what I looked like. But I messaged him. Oh wow. And I was like, hey, like, how are you doing since the show? Since since filming? And he was like, Wait, who's this? I was like, it's Kat from the pods. And he was like, Oh, my god. He was like,

Are you not married? And then I was like, Look, we need a phone call conversation. So we were on the phone for five hours. And that was it. Oh, my god, crazy. We spoke every day for five weeks as mates. And then I flew to come and see him in the weekend went to Alton Towers and that was it. That was it. And like the first time we met him, did you know like, okay, this is.

Yeah, so we had like our only reveal at the train stations. I didn't know. And then I was like, oh my God, this is so weird. So yeah. Oh my God, see that's, but that's how it should feel. Like then that. I love that. But that's how it should feel. Like, yeah. I feel like you honestly know when you first meet someone. Yeah.

I don't know the text in my friends. Like, I really believe, like, you just know. Yeah. You either do or you don't. Exactly, and he was so much fun. We went to open towers, it was pissing down in rain. We had junk food, and I was like, this is the happiness I should have felt.

Yeah. Like, obviously it's different because when cameras are involved, obviously the stress level, but yeah, that's literally it without me and Jake. Wow. I don't know how soon after that did you move in with each other

because you live together now. Oh no, so I moved, I've only moved in two months ago, three months ago. I moved in a few weeks before they released the cast. Oh, so it was really fresh. Yeah, we were doing long distance for like six, seven months. How did you find the long distance?

Cause Saf is like long distance queen. Oh God. Are you? Yeah, yeah. Every relationship of mine for long distance. I feel like it works to a certain extent and I just think, right, someone's gonna have to give way.

Yeah, yeah. Because you yeah I mean like I said we are he's very free I'm gonna be like 31 next year where's our life going yeah yeah like you can't do it forever you can and no it made sense that I moved in before the drama started and like love him in his home and then the show will come out and we'd be strong yeah yeah but yeah no it just came to the point where I was like I'm sick of and like love him in his home and then the show would come out and we'd be strong. Yeah.

But yeah, no, it just came to the point where I was like, I'm sick of flying. Like EasyJet knew who I was by like week four. It was doing my nutting, like flying back and forth. And it's funny. So yeah. Yeah, I can imagine. But don't you think though, like it's funny because all my friends are like, I don't get how you do it,

but there's something like, it does just make it so much more exciting. And like just so much more special. And you become so strong because you have to trust each other. Yeah. Yes. It's hard. It's not for everyone. I wouldn't recommend like, mine was just Jersey to the UK.

That's what, half an hour on a plane. Not for you. So I don't know. It's not like, I don't know, Saf wasn't yours in like America. Yeah, I've had my fair share around the world. That's long, long distance. So that's hard. I don't know if I could do that.

All right, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it.

Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. But no, but you would though, like it's just one of those things. Yeah, you do. Because you're in it. Yeah, you're in it. But like, yeah, it is one of those, you can't do it forever.

So it's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm so glad you've had a happy ending. You deserved it. And I'm angry for you that it wasn't showing how it truly was because like I've honestly, I've never done like a dating show.

So I can't say I've ever experienced anything like that. But like just firsthand, like even seeing my friends like that had been on shows and like the stories they've told me, I'm like, I get angry for them because I'm like, it's just so unfair. Like I love you, like why did they not show you I'm like, this is so unfair. Like I want to be, I love you, like why do they not show you like this and why don't they show that?

But. Yeah, like I remember like I said, some events I've been to and they're like, oh my God, you're actually so lovely. Like you're so fun. I'm like, thanks. Yeah. I'm like, I know, thank you.

But do you know what as well, like I feel like most people would understand it's a TV show. It's just like the odd like key word. You'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. Yeah, no, I know. People get really into it, don't they? And they just, yeah.

Like, I know like me and my mom, like we watched Love Island and she used to get so angry like, why is she saying that to my mom? Like, she used to get invested. I get it. I get it. But now do you watch TV shows differently?

I can't watch TV shows. I'm gutted. Really? Yeah, because I just know what goes on behind the scenes. Yeah, got you. Yeah, so I think, like love, like everyone, it's like my guilty pleasure, and now I just can't, even this season just gone, stuff I know your friend was on it,

and I remember just sitting there watching it, and I was like, I can't, I can't watch it. Cause you know now. You're like, were they asked to do that? Did they? Yeah. But then again, now I've met all them and it's like, we have that thing in common.

So it is nice. But yeah, I don't watch TV, don't watch reality. Wow. It's crazy. It sucks. Yeah, that is, that is. Every TV is reality TV nowadays. But one thing I was just, sorry, I know we're kind of like wrapping it up, but just really quickly, did you find that the producers, because like on Love Island, they do tell,

they don't necessarily say you have to do this, but they very much are like, we suggest you do this. They're clever with their words. Yeah. Do they do that on Love is Bid or not? Because it seems like from what you've said, you do kind of do it and say what you want. It's not like scripted,

but they'll definitely put you in a situation. So for example, they told me to go to Sam and talk to him at the mixer. They- Okay. They told- It doesn't look like that at all. Yeah.

They told me to ask about his bracelet. They told me to ask Freddie, has he ever cheated before? So like they kind of instigate that. I mean, you don't have to, but then it's a TV show and you know, you're in it. So I let the producers fully take charge. I really trusted them. I was like, do you know what?

You guide me, I'm gonna do it. Like, I'm in this, you get this chance once. So yeah, I mean, you're kind of guided, but in terms of what's coming out of our, like what comes out after that is not scripted. Yeah, got you. Yeah. Okay. Wow.

Crazy, I feel like I've learned so much. Now I'm gonna watch the show so differently. I don't, because I feel like I don't wanna ruin it for everyone. No, but to be honest, I feel like I watch the show so differently. I don't, don't, cause now I feel like I don't wanna ruin it for everyone. No, but to be honest, I feel like I watch every show differently anyways. Yeah, I do too. But most of the show I'm going,

but I think that was staged. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I watch a show differently anyways. You have to create a TV show because if the drama wasn't there, would you be hooked? No.

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Well, I'm glad you've had your fairy like fairy tale ended. There was something good that came out of it and it taught you a lot. So there's the positive. And now I'm just enjoying life. I'm getting to know like this new life and it's great. Yeah. It just shows that everything happens for a reason because I never would have met Jake unless it was for this show. Literally. Yeah, literally. And we're so strong because of it.

What couple goes through this? It's bad. Yeah. Crazy. A year ago, I was meant to get married and it's just... That would be hard, I think, for a lot of people to understand. Yeah, I know. Crazy for people to understand. So yeah, you've had such a beautiful, unique experience together. I've still got my wedding dress at home. You've still got it? That's crazy.

What if you get married to Jake? Are you gonna wear it? No. Bad luck dress, need a different one. I was gonna wear my wedding dress at the reunion and I was like, no, don't do that. Oh my God, imagine. I wore my wedding shoes. I actually wear them quite a lot.

Did you? Yeah, I love them. But no, the ring I sold and the wedding. I actually wear them quite a lot. Yeah, I love them. And but no, the ring I sold and the wedding dress I've kept. Did the show buy it for you? Yes. I was going to ask that. Yeah, everything's paid for. My bridesmaid dresses I got, like they give you a budget. But yeah, so I even gave Freddie the earrings back. I gave everything back. I was like,

yeah, didn't want anything. So maybe I'll sell the wedding dress. It might be worth a bit. Yeah, I feel like it's got bad luck on it. So I think you don't want to wear it. Yeah, you can't wear it again. It's such a nice dress. Gorgeous dress, but you can't wear it again. Yeah, that is sad.

Cause I would spend so long choosing my wedding dress. Oh no, you can't. You've got three dresses to pick from and that's it. You're joking. So you have to pick your top three and then you have to go by, like Emma Willis actually chose my dress like with me because the first one I saw she was like, that's the one and I was like, yeah, and that I was actually really happy I picked it. Wow.

Yeah, I was really happy with it. Oh my God, I would be so, I mean, I guess when you only have three to choose from, it makes the process slightly easier, but also at the same time. But it's not the experience. Look, if even if now I know what I want my wedding to be like, I don't want it to be rushed. I want it to be fun and have a proper hen party with people who I love, not with girls from a...

It's really difficult. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't want to get married like that. It's good because it's cheap and it's for free. Yeah. But yeah, it's not what and it's for free. Yeah. But yeah, it's not what I go for.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming on. Thanks. I feel like I've got a whole new insight to Love is Blind now, which I'm so happy about. And I'm so happy you're doing so much better as well. And you found happiness, you found love.

Thank you. And that is the main thing. So yeah, thank you so much for coming on. Yeah, thank you. It was so nice. I that is the main thing. So yeah, thank you so much for coming on. Yeah, thank you. It was so nice. I've actually loved this episode. Same. Not just Anna and I now.

So it's actually so nice and like, yeah, your whole story is so interesting. So yeah. Oh, it's been so fun. I love it. Thank you. Well, that is the end of this little two-part podcast. Can we just say, Catherine is one of the loveliest people we've ever had on this podcast,

but just the loveliest person. Like it really does go to show how reality TV can edit you completely how they wanna edit you. They can give you a whole new personality if they really want to and cut so much out. Like it's- And like my heart breaks for her as well that, cause I know what it feels like to go out and be so anxious like hearing people talking about you, but the fact that she feels, obviously

it's in her word that she feels as if she was looked at like the villain. And like for people to have that perspective of you, especially when you're nothing like that is just so horrible. And so I'm glad that she's actually been able to like speak her truth. Because also I'm thinking there's like, because you know, you're normally in like a contract where you can't say anything. So like, you know, I feel as if I'm glad that she's been able to say her piece. And yeah, she's just so lovely. We're so glad we had her on the show. And I hope you guys enjoyed seeing this insight as well.

I really hope so. She's been thrown right into the deep end, but I feel like she's got the chance to be super honest now. And yeah, it was just a lovely conversation. I'm really glad she got the opportunity to say it all. And I can't wait. Well, you've obviously listened to it now, but it's wild. I can't stop thinking about it. Yeah, crazy. It's like I'm going to walk around the house and I would just think about all these different little things that she said. Like, oh my God, this is crazy. Well, thank you so much guys for listening to this episode. Thank you so much, Catherine, for being on this episode.

Thank you so much. And we shall see you guys next week with another one. Bye. Bye. Bye.