Sex, Lies & DM Slides - 12: Message from an ex on Christmas Day, Saff's recent dates and sliding in to DM’s over a roast

Episode Date: December 27, 2022

Happy Holidays babes! In honour of this festive period we thought we’d squeeze in one more episode to celebrate 2022 with a bang. This episode has full of juicy updates. From what we really think about dating over the Xmas period and is it ever acceptable to slide into the DMs to a story of someone’s Xmas dinner!? And of course, we’re also catching up on Saff's recent dates and Ana’s trip down under (plus, what really happened in the hostel bunk beds). We both hope you have the most wonderful Christmas if you’re celebrating it, and a great New Year! See you in 2023! Sex, Lies and DM Slides is a Spotify Original podcast. Produced by Spirit Studios with Raymond Tannor and Kate Willis as the producers and from Spotify the Executive Producer is Rhyanna Coleman. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

you're back we're back we're back here we are i'm back from australia after six i can't like do you know what it's so weird it felt like you was away for the longest time also it went by so quick you know what being sat here it doesn't actually feel like i've been anywhere like it just yeah it doesn't feel like six it's because you're back home exactly i'm back home i'm back with you i've got so many interesting stories to tell about my trip you know what i'm so excited honestly guys anna and i haven't spoken about the trip like once really not really i was messaging whilst i was out there but as the stories were happening i was like i can't tell you yeah he was like i'll wait for the pod and i'll

tell you on the pod yeah question by the way considering this is the topic of the whole podcast yeah did you meet the love of your life i didn't meet the love of my life in australia however i can see how it's very easily done i traveled up the east coast and i found that at the beginning i didn't really think there was many attractive australian boys i'll be honest like i was expecting to go to all the beaches and see these like insanely good looking surfers i was about to say surfer dudes right it weren't really giving that at first and i was like shit like okay it's you know it's not really what i thought it was about anyways no but we were all talking about it and i was like okay i'm not really getting where this is coming from anyway then we went to bondi beach and have you ever seen bondi rescue no okay it's basically just

filled with really good looking men rescuing people on the beach and that is exactly what happens on that beach so we sat there did you drown no thought about it i thought about it but i didn't and i was literally looking at these men like wow but anyway as you go up the east coast i found that like people got progressively hornier and like more like sexual like the last place we went to was a hostel called gilligan's and it has a club in the hostel and all in the hostel in the hostel but i don't just mean like a little club i mean like a sort of super club for australia in the hostel wait so australians would go there even if you wasn't staying even if that was just the place to go for the whole of kent right okay so like

that was the very last point of our trip but as we kind of hit like noosa which was kind of midway you just kind of noticed everyone got progressively hornier and i was like right i can see what people mean now by like backpackers really do like fuck anywhere like we checked into the rooms you could hear the bunk beds like moving from next door rooms like it was that sort of like i just i just don't think i could well i didn't think i could either but i slept really well considering you could hear multiple people having sex i thought he was gonna say but you slept with loads of people i'm not in the hostel bum beds i was gonna say all right no i slept really well considering but i think it just in the end it become almost like normal you knew it

was gonna happen i got used to it i think the first one where it kind of went wrong for us was noosa because we didn't really drink, which is also probably why I didn't meet many people in the first couple of weeks. I was so jet lagged. I think I was just getting used to the new kind of lifestyle we were living in. Can I just say something? You didn't really drink, but I did see basically the day that you landed, you was out clubbing. Apart from that night, we did go out in Sydney because we were like, we need to go out in Sydney whilst we're here. And we went to a club called Ivy, which again was a super club, but it was shit to be honest like we didn't get drunk at all

yeah i was like australian drinks just weren't hitting me the same as they do yeah they're meant to be so weak yeah they just they're not the same at all so anyway we go out in noosa again club in the hostel that's quite a common thing just to have it in the hostel i wasn't planning on getting drunk this night i had no makeup just question is this the embarrassing story yes this is absolutely horrendous on my half so i didn't plan on getting drunk i had no makeup on hair was up i was in my pajamas and jogging bottoms but you went to the club oh yeah it's very let you in the club oh my god it's so normal to go out like whatever says goes in australia that's what i've realized everyone walks around barefoot no one wears shoes why don't they do that in the UK?

If I could go out. Why do you have to dress to a certain attire to go out clubbing? If I could go to the club in joggers, no shoes and no makeup, I would. That is exactly why I did it. I was like, this is great. Like I feel comfortable. And I think that's the reason why I let myself get more drunk because I wasn't in like a tight little dress and heels. Right.

Anyway, so I spend somehow all the night at the bar like no one could move me from the bar okay in every single video was you with anyone i was meeting new people every time because i kept buying i'm just trying to envision like i was just at the bar buying and like every time byron come over and i come dance i was like no i want to stay at the bar i don't know what i'd had i don't know what was was drinking, but I would just would not move from the bar. Anyway, so I'm buying shots after shots. My camera roll is just filled with me and these strangers going, yeah, like with these shots.

So I'm absolutely fucked, right? I've lost everyone. So I don't know what everyone else has done, but everyone else was also on my level at the same time. Fine, Byron. And I finally realized in my head, it's probably time that I put myself to bed so Byron has this video of me that I have no recollection of and I'm like

running through the hostel but it was actually like scary watching it back because I can't talk like my voice like it doesn't make sense any of what I'm saying like I was just saying to Byron that I'm scared about losing my jumper and that I need to go to bed didn't even have a jumper so I don't know where this is coming from so I get into the room and this is the first hostel where we're sharing a room with strangers so there's three boys in the room which I didn't know how old are they same age one was 18 and the other two were like my age okay and my bed was I had one of the boys beneath me and the other two opposite my bed so i was like dead center for all these boys to be able to look whatever was going to go on so anyway i get into the room and the boy underneath me has got a girl in his bed and they're shagging so i was like oh

god here we go i've got to get up on the bed like i'm really not in a good state anyway and the thing is because you're so little when you get well first of all you get drunk quick anyways but when you get drunk baby you get so drunk I'm like but I was obliterated and then I decided it was time for me to be sick okay so I didn't go to the toilet I swung my legs over the top of the banister of the bunk bed oh you're joking and i was sick on top of them oh my god all down the side of the bed all down the side of the bed no no you wasn't they carried on they did not no they didn't they did not flinch you are wait no but it gets worse did it actually go on top of them oh yeah it went everywhere like it went everywhere but they

carried on i projectiled so on the duvet no well yeah but it might have gone on them i don't know like they was what it they they were not phased they were in the zone i mean if they weren't phased by sophie saying surely the smell is enough surely the smell honestly i mean i'm not being funny like if i was in bed with someone they could do the tiniest thing that would give me the ick like the tiniest thing let alone if they're sick on me i'm out it gets worse are you joking so i get down to clean my sick right and this point i'm still clothed i'm just just i've just been sick i thought fuck i need to clean it up i was with it enough to clean it up somehow anyway get back up on the bed i need to be sick again but this time because i was so drunk i

thought it'd be funny i stripped naked so i've undone my corset i've taken my trousers off i'm back over the bunk bed banister but naked why are you sick again why are you over the bunk bed this time i've woken up the two boys and they've shot up as i'm naked being sick over them having sex so I'm still being sick nobody can stop me being sick like it was just still coming out Byron was on the top bunk but next to me he turned around and realized that I was naked so he bless him he shot up grabbed a t-shirt put the t-shirt over my head picked me up from the top bed and carried me to the toilet as I'm still being sick so i'm in the toilet still being sick and then i just like something switched in my head i don't know what it was and

i switched on by and i was like fuck off i want to be sick on the bed leave me be blah blah so i take the top off i get back on the bed naked i'm sick again i've been sick three times honestly i don't know what happened the other people in the room are actually just ignoring your whole situation well the two boys were getting very annoyed as i would as well if someone was naked throwing up over two people having sex then obviously the next morning i had to apologize i felt absolutely horrendous and then jazz would just laugh i think everyone was just laughing like you how could you not laugh what was going on surely the room also stunk oh it probably did but i can't remember i have absolutely no memory but then i got into bed and because like something had switched in my head that wise byron got me down from the bed i text my mum and i woke up and i

texted her saying people are so cruel i just want a mummy cuddle i literally text my mum that and an azicus replied saying mummy will call you in a minute she's just getting me a mcdonald's and i was like that is the most fucking classic thing that i could have got as a response to my to me saying mom i want a mummy cuddle it was honestly awful i woke up the next morning and the thing is i didn't really remember so like though the boys were out of bed and i woke up and i was like guys i was like god it was a rough night last night and then everyone told me what happened i burst into tears because i was like i can't believe i've done this like these two boys have seen me naked like the other boy he'd gone out but surely they would also try and help you well i'd like to think

that because i was quite friendly with them before like we'd had a nice little conversation like we had quite a bit in common i bet you were you were at the bar with them yeah you know we had quite a bit of conversation but anyway so that happened and then later on that night they came back and the people that were having sex in the bunk below what did they say about the whole situation he found it funny and she left after they'd had sex apparently but he found it funny he was the only one who out of like the three strangers who found it funny wow anyway that is a story that is clearly how good i looked in australia naked being sick over a bunk bed okay so that's how after that i am actually i don't really have any words i've never heard

anything like it i was scarred from that like i couldn't drink for like quite a few days because i was like if i do that again like what like what has happened or possessed me to want to do that and i'm never sick either from nights out so to be sick on top of people as well it's the fact that byron's got you dressed and you've undressed yourself again i took it off and you've just thought no i i want to be free and be sick it was honestly you know what i just get this envision of you swinging your legs over the bunk bed and it just i have the image in my head and it makes me feel physically sick like it actually makes it's funny because i've seen you naked so many times i can just imagine it so well but why didn't i like do it imagine it so well in the gap in the bunk bed why did i like dangle my legs over

the banister as well so that my boobs had been sat on the railings of the bunk bed it was just so like tell you what you're really setting yourself i know guys i'm gonna get so many dms after this podcast episode i've really sold myself here but that that's probably like the worst okay that's probably the worst story and then i didn't drink really for like a week or so because i was like not this can't happen again and also i think i was just scarred from doing it in front of strangers if it was people i knew funny but when it's boys you don't know not as funny no anyway then i just can't believe it was the first time as well that you'd actually shared a room with other people it was like that is that is typical and the people having sex they were going for it as well like it was just no i think it would just be too much for me

today that is traveling in a nutshell really that is what that's what only in a nutshell is but then i feel like that's the worst story but then as i went up like as i said it just got like horny i can't explain it but when you say it got horny how everyone was horny i'm like i'm confused boys were just on it was like boys on heat like it was a mental just in the hostel like it was all everyone would speak about it was just it was just i can't i i've never seen anything like it but then we did a boat trip right which is the one i texted you briefly about this but i didn't explain to you what happened we did a boat trip to the wit sundays and it is the best thing i've ever done but the point of the boat trip is to like get really drunk anyway the boat is called the clipper we then found out within five minutes

of getting on there it has a nickname called the clapper because a lot of the people who work there apparently have a lot of stds wow nice so i was like okay i was like this is really interesting what boat am i on right now i'm on here for three days then we meet all the three i'm on there we're living on the boat yeah we sleep on the boat so then we meet all the staff and they know they're good looking all those boys know that they are like absolutely ridiculous like one of them is apparently going on the new season of too hot handle if that happens we'll update on the podcast and i'll say that's him from the boat with the std with the std but it was just i can't so the first night wasn't like as bad oh my god

no but this is the main thing this is the small world thing right okay we we were talking to all the boys who work on the boat we went into like the little captain's deck thing and then one of them just decides to go oh my god you know my friend and i was like oh who because i was like i've never seen you before he only goes and says the boy who literally broke my heart three years ago you know who it is oh my god you're joking when i tell you guys i was heartbroken over this boy i mean i was actually heartbroken like i was adamant this boy was the love of my life anyway what a small world but how did he know him he used to play football with him and they were in the same um class at college so he's not from australia no

no he's not from australia he just works there so then we were getting in conversation he was like yeah i live here and i was like fucking hell like, yeah, I live here. And I was like, fucking hell. Like, you know, the person literally broke my heart. I was like, wow. And then that was just a small world. Like, how the fuck is this happening? Anyway, the next night, the boy, this boy comes out and was like, you have a podcast, don't you?

And I was like, yeah, I do. Okay. No, this is what I didn't tell you. And I was like, yeah, I do. And he was like, it's about sex, isn't it? And I was like, not like, I. Okay. No, this is what I didn't tell you. And I was like, yeah, I do. And he was like, it's about sex, isn't it? And I was like, not like, I know it's got the first word is sex, but like, it's not like predominantly about sex. Like we just talk about a lot of things.

And he was like, so like, are you some sort of like sex expert? And I was like, no, I'm not a sex expert. Like I literally just tell embarrassing stories about myself. Like I'm not a sex expert whatsoever. He was like, would you mind coming down and answering some of our questions you're joking no they didn't no so honestly so i thought what do you mean answer your questions so i go into the little captain's right again all four of the boys are sat there and they start asking me questions like so would you let like would a boy shag you if you're on your period and i was like wait what i was literally sat there

so is this what guys think of us from this well this is what i mean i was like wait what i was literally sat there so is this what guys think of us from this well this is what i mean i was sat there like fuck like okay i was answering their questions honestly yeah because sometimes when i'm doing this podcast i'm thinking so i don't know if this is going to help me get a boyfriend or lessen my chances and now i'm thinking they're out here thinking we're sex experts well yeah the thing is i don't know if they'd listen to an episode i think they've just seen like the front and it'd been like sex fans and dm's sides they're like oh they must be sex experts anyway they start asking me like would like you know i mean i don't know if they'd listened to an episode. I think they'd just seen like the front of it and it'd been like sex fans on DMs. They're like, oh, they must be sex experts. Anyway, they start asking me like, would like, you know,

I'm going to remind people that I need to be there. Well, I'm kind of vague yet, you know. Great. I love my new job role. But I was like, what the fuck? So I'm answering all these questions. And then I thought, you know what?

I was like, if you're asking me these questions, I'm going to ask you them back. So I was like, Oh, come on. I want the questions that guys are being honest about. Okay, go on. So do you guys are being honest about yeah so do you guys have a list of all the girls you're fucked and they all go yeah we do i mean can i see you

then no that's just vile the main one on the boat shows me this list and obviously we've spoken about it on the podcast but hang on how old are they because i feel like when you're over a certain age you're not doing that one of them was 24 i think the others were like 23 ish but all like 23 24 shows me this list 200 plus first of all and he's got the name the flag of where they're from and the reason he fucked them you're joking and i'm scrolling no not the reason yeah the reason and the reason the reason he fucked them and then what would you remember what some of the reasons were what oh i really the thing is i really wish i did because i was so shocked and i was so like what would it be like nice eyes would it be oh yeah yeah just like little it weren't like

sentences it was more like five six words about like why he'd fucked them but then at the bottom of the list he had something that said the ones that got away and it was like three names with like girls who like he'd really fancy but they didn't want anything with him oh you're joking he the top name was jess and he had that name tattooed on him because the boys from the boat had dared him to go and get that name tattooed on him and then i was like so do you have other girls names tattooed he was i've got loads of girls names tattooed on me and i in i mean that is in between all these tattoos a different girl's name so i was like so do you shag these like from the boat like i'm so confused because the boat is their life they're on the boat 24 7 he was like yeah the after party and i was like what's the after party and he was like well

we're not allowed to shag on the boat i was like right he was like so we have like this after party where when you get off the boat everyone from the boat goes to the same club and then they'd like shag the girls from the boat oh so in the club in the club well no actually maybe i don't know well one of them told me a story about how he broke the rules he had a girl tied up on the boat with the ropes kind of fun fantasy not gonna lie i was like i can kind of see that like being on the boat i was like that's kind of fun um trying to think of another story that they said but just loads like he had a list one of them wouldn't show me a list i was about to say what so did you do you remember any of the other questions that you asked because i feel like come on us girls have so many questions we actually want

guys to honestly answer we did you must have asked more than that the thing is i was really flustered in the moment because these boys are really good looking and as i'm saying these boys are good looking but it doesn't matter because they're writing lists about the ones that got away yeah and the reasons as to why they fucked them to be honest that is too far one of the boys on the boat had a very low list i have to give it to him he seemed really sweet he still had it no i'm sorry but you're not selling anyone with a list oh my god anyone with a list they're out you're not allowed one of the boys because obviously it was like it's like christmas messaged one of the girls on the boat and he because all the people who don't work the night shift go to bed at 9 30 and they have like a separate like crew cabin so they say they can't

on the boat but i guarantee you they've all fucking checked on the boat and they messaged one of the girls on the boat saying like i can't remember the actual line but something about coming come and sit on santa's. And you know that chat app line where something will pop up? I don't know what it is, but that one. And it worked. She slept with him.

Wait, what? The hot babe. Come and sit on Santa's lap. Come and sit on Santa's lap. That worked. And it worked. And this was the boy who wouldn't show me the list.

And I think it's because it's fucking extensive because he's sending messages like that to girls on the boat but anyway went to the after party and yeah i can see how they fuck every single girl there wow okay so did they have any more questions for you then as you you are a sex expert clearly i know what were the other questions that they asked you it was there was two main ones before i kind of like stopped it and turned it straight around on them because i was like what the fuck is going on it was the one about

sex on periods oh something about being tied up and vanilla sex because the one apparently who's going on too hot tandoor is like really vanilla oh would you suck no yes after you've sucked a guy off would you kiss him that was the question that was their question that was their question would you kiss him after like you've been down there but question so they're not asking you for advice they're just asking you personally i'm confused like what's the motive i thought it was like you know there's always things that we actually want to get guys on its opinion so like if guys could actually answer truthfully you'd want to know i think it was a bit of both i think it was like they actually wanted to know but they're also i think just kind of like so what did you say well i said yeah i was like well i don't really think there's an issue with it and then the one who's apparently gone to hot tandoor was like they actually wanted to know but they were also i think just kind of like so what did you say well i said yeah i was like well i don't really think there's an issue with it and then

the one who's apparently gone to hot tandoor was like ew no and i was like you're vanilla as fuck i literally said to him i was like you are so vanilla in bed it is a joke he said he wouldn't fuck a girl on his period either and like all the boys were sat there like come on mate you're so boring you're so boring and i do feel a bit sorry for him but he also was vanilla as fuck and he's the one going on too hot to Handle. Apparently. I'm excited for that. If he is. Inside goss.

Yeah, inside goss. I can actually see how he is. He looks very much like a Too Hot to Handle sort of boy. Right, okay. So that's the story of the clapper. Anyway. Wow, okay. If anyone's going to Australia, go on that boat. Or don't.

Or don't. Depends on what you fancy. Yeah, depends on what you're feeling. If you want to sleep with someone in bed, probably do. But if not, then probably avoid it did you kiss any guys when you was away no no you didn't even kiss a guy no there was stuff happened stuff went down in australia with everyone right but no that's secrets cannot be spilled what have you been doing whilst i've been away oh right that was aggressive yeah we're gonna turn around you love turning it around i'm not one of the guys on the

boat just to let you know um not like not that much i've actually been on a couple babe i've been on dates i haven't told you you messaged me on dates right listen to this okay i'm speaking to this one guy and i really fancied him and I thought, do you know what? Like, I'll just be spontaneous and he's asked to take me out. So I'm like, sure. So he's given me like,

like it was like a week before. He was like, when are you free? And I was really busy. So I literally had to say like a whole week later, like I'm not free until like next Friday.

All right. So he's like, by the way, I'm so proud. I'm not going on one day, I'm going on two days. With the same guy. Who am I?

Two different guys. I know. But listen to this to this story like i don't know how i did this okay so and i'm really hoping this guy never ever listens to this because i will actually be embarrassed but um oh god i'm actually saying this on the internet so anyway so i arranged to go on this date with this guy and the night before he voice notes me and he's like saf just and he's like super keen like he's been talking about it like all the time he's like and he doesn't sound well he does sound unwell so he's like saf i'm just letting you know like i wanted to voice note you that like i feel like i've suddenly come down with the flu but i want to let you know because i don't want you to think that I'm bailing,

because I do really want to take you out. Right, okay. So I'm a bit like, a bit weird, but also people do just get unwell. Like there's nothing you can do about it. And he did sound sick. So I kind of took that for, it's probably not going to happen.

But I already like, I'm staying in London at this point, because well, I wanted to do Christmas shopping and stuff as well, but also I just booked to stay in London because I'm going out on this day. I didn't want to come home. So the next morning he's like messaging me and he's voice noting me. He does sound really unwell.

And he's like, you know, it's later on in the day, so I'm trying like everything I can. Like I'm going to the doctors now and then I'm going to sauna and trying to do all this stuff apparently to make it feel better. i'm a bit like steam room or something steam room apparently gonna get rid of his flu anyways so um i'm a bit like realistically it's not gonna happen i'm like it's fine like it's fine like people get unwell it's fine like just say don't be like oh i might be better later if you're not it's fine yeah and he's like yeah um yeah i mean i just i feel so unwell like i'm so sorry i feel awful like i'm sorry i don't know

why i'm laughing so i'm a bit like in two minds because i'm thinking don't be a psycho he could actually be unwell like do you know what i mean but the tendencies are all too real you're obviously going to think there's something more to it but no i i didn't really to be honest i did just think he probably was unwell but i also thought he seemed unwell but i also if i really really wanted to go out with someone i feel like he could have that's kind of how i felt about it like i felt like yeah he probably was unwell but he'd gone out three nights in a row so he was hung over anyways i just felt like he had a really bad hangover and a bit of a cold right i feel like if you really wanted to go out some you still could so anyways this date's cancelled but i'm in london now so i'm thinking well i'm not not going on a

date there's no way i'm not going on a date because i'm not being fucking funny i've got my friend who's doing my makeup like are you gonna get your makeup done yeah because do you know what it was i just don't really go on dates and like we was going to a place it was super glam so i was like on my instagram all the time i'm getting my makeup done and i thought you were making i was making an effort for this day and i thought fucking hell i'm finding a date so this other guy that messages me all the time on instagram asked take me out and he's really good looking but like always i've never been that bothered about going on dates so i'm a bit like i've always said yeah yeah yeah in the future so i just thought fuck it so i messaged him and i was like you messaged him i messaged him and i was like what are you doing tonight

and then he was like oh i'm in london are you in london oh my god should we go out obviously worded better than that and i was like yeah sure i'm around tonight and he's like cool okay well i'm gonna take you out so just like that but i have myself another date okay can you believe it what the fuck anyway so then still got ready still went out went on another date with this guy who was super nice like fancied him nice but you know what i was so proud of myself why go on like he was really good looking he was really lovely had a good time but that was it i didn't fall in love and i just thought oh she's a changed woman that is she's a changed woman normally you're in love after five minutes yeah but i think it's because i don't just go dating

people so like yeah i only date people that i really want to be with but i thought i'm channeling anna here i'm channeling anna And I'm just going because why not? Why not? You've got a free night. Yeah, exactly. I tell you what, I've never been so nervous for anything in my whole life. Oh, it's awful, isn't it?

And it's weird because I feel like I can hold a conversation. But honestly, you should have seen me. I was in the toilet. So he had actually, so we had arranged to go. So he had booked dinner, but we was both free beforehand. And so I was like oh do

you want to get drinks beforehand because i'm thinking i just need i need i need a drink i think that's a bit more chill than going straight into a dinner so have you heard of mr foggs in london anyway so we went to mr foggs but there's loads of them right and so he had never been there because he's obviously he's not from the country no me of course he's not from the country classic so um he goes to the wrong one so i'm there early i'm thinking oh you're joking i can't well actually i'm not that early but i'm earlier than him okay so i'm thinking oh for god's sake because he's gone into the wrong one because there's one like not that far away so i'm in the toilet and i'm on the phone to libby and i'm

facetiming her and i'm like okay but just like um text me random things if it goes awkward like just takes me random things i'm honestly freaking out inside and then do you want to know do you want to know what i did i smashed a glass at the table with him at the table oh you're joking oh yeah i did were you drunk doing it or just like no i wasn't even this was the worst part is you know me i'm just enthusiastic so like when i'm talking i'm always talking my hands left right and center so i've gone like that and bang next minute smashed the glass okay but how did he react was it awkward yeah it was but like he was so nice it was fine and then okay after i ended up meeting um imogen my boyfriend and we were going out and then we all ended up meeting up again and we all went clubbing

together that's fun yeah so i ended up it was again and we all went clubbing together. That's fun. Yeah. So I ended up, it was, yeah, he's really nice. I love this for you. I know. Can't say I've been on any more dates. I've slowed down on the dates. Well, you have been backpacking for six weeks, babe.

I have been backpacking. So that would be why. So I've taken one for the team. I've done it for both of us. How good that I bagged another date. That is unreal from you. And good on you as well. I wouldn't be going to London and not going on a date if one had cancelled. I know. That is unreal from you. And good on you as well. I wouldn't be going to London

and not going on a date if one had cancelled. I know. That's what I thought. I thought, there's no chance. I thought there's, literally,

I was like, I've told everyone I know, you'll be proud of me if I go on a date. I was like, I've got to find a date. And literally, like that,

I was so proud of myself. But also, I was thinking, this is a bit ballsy. What am I doing? But it's paid off and the funniest thing is is my friend who just does my makeup um and she lives in so it wasn't that far like she could have just not done it but like i just wanted to get my hair i just well not my

hair but i just wanted to get my makeup done i wanted to go out like i just felt like i was in the mood for it and i'd showed her the guy i was originally going on the date with and then i had to tell her oh no babe i'm going on a date with another guy now show a picture of the new guy this is the new one she was like wow the polar opposites i'm like yeah wait so what's happened to the old guy have you spoken to him anymore so he has messaged me since okay and he's asked me how i am but like is he feeling i wasn't like that bothered like i wasn't upset i wasn't really that bothered i was to be honest I was going on a date because I told you I'd go on a date and I told the podcast to go on a date

so you were just doing it for research I was doing it for the research like I just wasn't that bothered yeah so but I think the reason the next day I was like I'm still gonna go on a date is because I'd hyped myself up for a date then so i feel like once you've hyped yourself up you can do it as well yeah like it is i feel like people don't actually talk about how nerve like nerve-wracking dating can actually be i used to get so nervous it's weird because i really feel like i don't know i think i just really overthought it like i never thought i would get nervous for a date i think in your head you always think it's going to be more awkward than it actually will be like i always think in my head like the person's not going to ask me any questions it's going to be like yeah just awkward but normally the conversation just flows i just

have loads of questions like ready in my head to ask but i think it's because i hadn't spoken to this guy i think you've got more to speak about yeah but i think it also made me more nervous because a bit like i actually kind of know nothing about him that's kind of fun though yeah which means we did have more to talk about so it was good so yeah it's a nice time check me out that's what i've been doing back back home there's nothing more exciting than that that's about it you've been dating i've been dating sick so you've been sick here we are now let's move on to the topic of today's podcast which is exes coming back in the holidays so i saw that eight percent of brits have been contacted by an ex over the festive season holidays i believe that fully my ex has done that my exes do that

have you been contacted this year not yet but i could almost bet my life on it that i will really i've had in the last week three people that i used to speak to message me really just out of the blue i think that's weird though like i don't get it like in the sense of messaging someone on christmas because it's just such an excuse to speak to them but like there's more of a purpose like what are they saying this week leading up to christmas do you know what i mean like at least christmas you can go hope you have a lovely christmas yeah although i although i think it's like really i personally wouldn't message one of my christmas and be like merry christmas only if i wanted them back that's yeah only if i wanted

them back i'm messaging that yeah but even still it's like really come on so actually no i wouldn't i wouldn't but that would be the initial like i can see yeah that's the reason as to why people do it because they're like this is an easy way in to talk to them. Yeah. But honestly, so weird that we're talking about this on the podcast. And I kid you not, like last night I was laying in bed and it popped up on my phone. I'll show you. And I was like, surely not.

Wait, so what's he popped up saying? Is it about Christmas or not? Oh, no. That's the weird thing. It's not Christmas related. Hey, Anna, how have you been? Wow. I was like, we've not spoken since.

That is weird. When does it say last message was? I didn't reply. That's really bad. August was the last time. Yeah. That you spoke. And it's December now.

So why? Why December? This is what I mean. I think everyone's getting lonely at Christmas time. I think that's what it is. I do. They're like. If they haven't got a new, I don't know, a new girlfriend or boyfriend, whatever.

They're just, they're just coming out of nowhere yeah wow i also because this this other guy who messaged me he's a tiktoker and he's recently gone through like a fairly public breakup he cannot stop making tiktoks about it and it actually is quite embarrassing and then he slid into my dms again a couple of nights ago and i thought really like i've seen all your breakup tiktok yeah this is so embarrassing i also don't understand that why would after a breakup people make tiktoks about it but anyway no i don't understand yeah messaging in the festive season are you gonna message anybody this festive season i am i'm not i'm not gonna be doing that are you anna absolutely not no that is it just no that's what i just

wouldn't i just don't think i would i just can't. Like, I do understand why people do it. It's an easy way in, but it's not for me whatsoever. No, I really don't understand why people, and have you ever had anyone message you something horrible on Christmas? Like, hope you have an awful Christmas.

Because I know people that have had that as well. From X's. Which is just the worst, like, yeah. Hope you have an awful Christmas. Yeah. No,

but maybe I'll try that one this year instead maybe don't do that but it's like awful that you must really have some hatred for someone if you're doing that but that's also it just shows they're still thinking about you and they're like they don't want to be nice but why would you i just i don't understand it if you're into someone if you're not if you hate them whatever why message them on quick just let them have the one piece for christmas i know the one day i mean i i just know my ex is popping up on christmas day i know it unless he listens to this unless this is this and then i'm not yeah do you really think so yeah but it's fine like we're we're on like good like good terms like it's fine do you know what i mean okay yeah and

it's and it's probably because he's you know he's trying to be nice but like i just i just know it's gonna happen and it's a bit like really really really are you gonna reply though i mean yeah i'll say i hope you have a nice christmas too but that's it just reply back saying i hope you have an awful christmas that is the worst thing i've ever heard i kind of want someone to message me that now because i actually would be like what fuck okay so is messaging someone like different to replying to their story i don't think i feel like it's an easier it's seem it makes you seem like you're less bothered what by replying to a story yeah i think so because i think it's like you're not going out your way to mess but you are still messing with the same thing I feel like it's

almost a bit cooler like playing it a bit cooler but you're still doing the same thing I'm not gonna lie I probably did that when I was younger

what reply to someone's story and do you know what actually not even necessarily applying to an ex but I feel like I'd probably even do it this year there's someone I want

to speak to no I can't but you've I thought you just admitted it now know but it's so easy to reply to the instagram story well this is what i was gonna say this is like your way it's a good conversation starter this is where i've been going wrong i've always like messaged people off the bat without replying to their stories but you've always said reply to their stories so maybe it's such a good conversation starter i feel like it makes you look less bothered don't get me wrong i'm not messaging my exes but okay i don't know if this this is probably just as bad but i feel like if there's someone you want to speak to

as much as it's a bit like really and it's a bit it's a bit like boring to pop up to someone hope you have a lovely christmas but i feel like it's a nice thing to do maybe this is quite interesting would you do it on christmas day though like actual christmas day or would you do it on the lead up to christmas i think it just depends what they're putting on their story okay i'm not i mean okay yeah i'm not sure oh come on you've replied to someone's roast dinner you have you've replied to someone you've replied to mine but i'm not trying to slide in your dms but i haven't replied to like okay maybe i will reply to someone just reply to someone's roast dinner this year this on christmas what am i saying about the roasting like just said

all night like what am i putting about the roast dinner what do you say be like those yorkshires that like aunt betty's say that okay i'll reply to someone don't put that no it wouldn't be that mean that's that's almost as bad as saying have an awful christmas i won't say that but okay i'll reply to someone on the lead up and on christmas day there's no leader don't do on lead up just on christmas day but i'm bored on the lead up to christmas like when i'm sat there so you're as bad as the exes then? You're just popping up to people. Well, no, but I can just sit and just go through my story for research for the pod. I'm doing this because you told me to. I can just sit there and be like, oh, like they're doing something nice for Christmas.

I hope you have a nice Christmas. Okay. And we'll see. I feel like your messages are sometimes a bit formal. So maybe less that. I struggle with that. I don't know why. I can't like, I need, this is where I need your advice to come in. Because I'll just message you and I'll be like, this is, this is where I need your advice to come in because I'll just message you

and I'll be like, this is what's on their story. I'll send you their story first. If you send me someone's roast dinner, I'm going to die and I'll give you a good answer. I will. I'll send you their roast dinner first.

So boys who I follow, watch out, post your roast dinners on your story and then I'll reply. Or, if she doesn't follow you, you know what to do. Take a picture of your roast dinner

and tag Anna mentioning the story. Tag me, but slide me off screen. Do you know what I mean? So it doesn't look you you know what to do take a picture of your roast dinner and tag anna mentioning the story tag me but slide me off screen do you know what i mean so i'm still yes i'm still getting it in my like thing but oh they've tagged me in their roast dinner actually do it because i actually will reply to people i'm hoping guys do that because i'm gonna crease you've got to do it as well now you've got yeah i replied i'll reply should i apply to someone's present yeah okay you do present and i do roast dinner i feel like i reckon the roasting is gonna work trust me i could just rate their roast dinner yeah just be like oh this is it yeah okay oh my god i reckon just roast dinner the number seven out of ten

that's it that's it what's i'm putting the word roast dinner roasting a seven out of ten yeah that's not gonna work listen it's the little things i mean not that but i'll just like i'll rate it i feel like oh that roast dinner looks nice don't put that you know that's probably something i would have put so i won't put that then okay i'll just rate it that's a good christmas where are we going with this come on christmas chat lines okay christmas chat line if anyone has any good ones of a roast dinner let us know just like that one that worked on the boat do you want to come sit on santa's lap yeah just that clearly worked just like that what happened then if commenting on a roast dinner turns to them messaging me and being like do you want to meet

up no no when when it happens okay when it happens when it happens when they want to meet up manifestation oh yeah when they want to meet up because i've rated their roast dinner well i think you should go you should go somewhere that serves a roast go to obi carberry and you can both write it together too that is quite a good topic a conversation i do feel like somebody's roast dinner says a lot about them if it has no gravy on it or if it's black who doesn't have gravy some people i guarantee you i will see one roast dinner on my story this year with no gravy on it they message me saying want to meet up i suggest we go for a roast and you can you can rate it together and we're rating

the roast dinners together there you go okay so then what you've got a whole scenario i'm trying to think because you're going to message someone about one of their presents so what happens then if they turn around and say would you want to meet up now you can't go present shopping so what do you do about that one just go meet up with them all right go for a drink yeah so we actually have to make this happen now i have to go on a date from a roast dinner and you have to go on a date from okay but calm down because i've already gone on one day and it's a lot for me it's a lot for me dan but this will be in 2023 okay fine next year yeah new year this is gonna be a new year new year new date that's our one goal for january and then we have to update the pod okay fine we could meet love our lives we're doing this

or not or not do you feel like men or women are more likely to reach out to an ex i feel like men just gonna say men i'm gonna say yeah i'm gonna say men purely because i think i have willpower not to even if i wanted to whereas i feel like boys would genuinely see it as an easy way in yeah that's what i feel like i feel like they think that they're being nice so it's an easy way yeah i feel like a hundred percent men because i feel like if a girl can hold like if a girl can hold back in general they wouldn't feel the need to on christmas i feel like i don't know maybe i'm just speaking about myself it's probably stereotypical but if i really wanted to speak to a guy and i was really trying every reason to i

would have messaged him before Christmas. I don't need Christmas as an excuse. I'd do it anyways. Well, me too, to be honest. I would never even, I wouldn't even think of using Christmas as an excuse to try and message. I've never done that before. Oh, you must have thought about it.

I've thought about it. Yeah, but I'm not really. You must have thought, oh, I could message them happy Christmas. No, I haven't. Honestly, I've never thought that I'd message them Merry Christmas. I mean, to fair i mean because i think a lot of the time they'll just put merry christmas back and that's the end of conversation yeah there's there's not much to go from what else can we say do you know what i mean so i feel like that's why i've never really thought about it before but definitely i feel like men would be like oh like merry christmas and i'd put merry christmas like

how's your christmas been they'd somehow find a way to follow on the conversation yeah i'm definitely saying men are men 100 okay so date dating apps on christmas would you use it no i wouldn't use it because i hope that i'm doing better things than having to go on a dating app on christmas day well me too but i also couldn't even if i wanted to because i've been blocked off my dating app really Really? I deleted it. Oh, you've deleted it? Well, yeah, I might as well delete it anyway. But someone has reported my account.

I don't know what's going on. Anyway, it's gone. You're joking. Yeah, my account is gone. Wait, what? Honestly, obviously I didn't use it at all whilst I was in Australia because that was another thing actually. Like Hinge is very popular in Australia, just going back to that.

Yeah, as far as I'm surprised you didn't use it. It's a really, really popular way. But apparently people were saying like just to meet people just to be like oh i'm gonna be here not necessarily to go on dates but anyway yeah i don't know if i said this on the pod but i met someone in miami from a dating app from oh yeah i don't know if i don't know if you said it on the pod but yeah you told me i wouldn't have met him if i hadn't gone on that day yeah i think it's just a way to meet people abroad like i don't think they actually really use it to go on dates but anyway didn't use it then went back just thought oh I was like I still

have hinge I'm just gonna click on it and my account's gone so I can't use it on Christmas even if I wanted to to be honest babe do you know what appreciate the people around you you don't need to be searching for someone else exactly however I do remember last Christmas well not last Christmas day it was like my mum's birthday which was 22nd I was just sat in bed and that's when I redownloaded Hinge you're joking last Christmas

yeah December 22nd I think I was just feeling like really like why have you got this date log I remember because it was my mum's birthday oh right okay that's why I wouldn't remember the random day but I remember the day that I downloaded Hinge

the day guys I remember it but yeah that's the day I downloaded so maybe it is more popular to use dating apps around christmas i don't know i guess i just felt some sort of loneliness in bed that night and i remember i know i remember sat there going on like hinge just swiping through people but that won't be happening this year no definitely not i mean i do you know i think i would find it unattractive if i got a message on christmas day on a dating app me too actually thinking about it i'll be thinking what are you like how how boring is your christmas not only just how boring but like can't you socialize with the people around you your family your friends like yeah i know i mean i get everyone's christmas isn't the same but yeah i

understand everyone's christmas is a different but i personally i just think i'd be thinking really see now i kind of want to re-download it and just see if i get any messages on christmas is a different but i personally i just think i'd be thinking really see now i kind of want to re-download it and just see if i get any messages on christmas day just purely because i'm curious i feel like guarantee if we had it we would get at least someone oh my god see i'm thinking about re-downloading it now so obviously the new year is also coming up are you planning on going on any new dates in the new year do you know what i'm not i really feel like when we first started this podcast i was very like well obviously i wasn't into dating as we all know yeah um i've just about gone on one but i feel like i'm less searching for someone

i just feel like i'm just gonna do me i know it's so cliche but i really do think you find someone when you're not looking for it and so i've just decided I'm just not bothered like yeah I'll go on dates but I'm just going to take them as dates like for fun like because you're making you know because yeah you know I had a nice time when I went on my date but um I just feel like I'm less bothered about being with someone now I just feel like I'll probably meet someone when I'm not looking for it and so I'm just that's why I don't want to I don't need a dating app but i don't know why i'm searching for someone i'm fine by myself i know me too i completely agree because obviously like a very stereotypical thing to do is like have a new year's eve kiss and sort of that i've personally

never had that i'm not really in a rush to try and find someone just you never know i'm an easy party i mean you never know i'm personally in a rush but i just feel like dating in the new year like i think going this is also very cliche going backpacking for six weeks has really changed my perspective on a lot of things and it's made me realize i actually am really good on my own and i think there was definitely a point in my life where i was like desperate like i need to have a boyfriend like i've not had a boyfriend i need to have a boyfriend whereas now i actually just much prefer life on my own which i don't know if that's a good or a bad thing so i feel like i'm the same as you like in 2023 dating going forward i'm just gonna take it as it comes i'm not getting obsessed with anyone anytime soon because i can't be asked

with a heartbreak and i'm just gonna see what happens yeah so we should boss women we're going into 2023 single still single still and i'm wanting to be yeah i'm wanting to exactly i'm happy being single for the first time ever actually really happy being single yeah let's go i'm not going back to university to be your friend i'm going so i can get uber one for students it saves you on uber and uber eats i'm there for zero dollar delivery fee on cheeseburgers up to five percent off smoothies and five percent uber cash back on rides just to be clear i'm there for zero dollar delivery fee on cheeseburgers up to five percent off smoothies and five percent uber cash back on rides just to be clear i'm there for savings not whatever you think university is for get uber one for students a membership to save on uber and uber eats with

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I've messaged a few people, so you can look. You can take my phone, but I wouldn't get too excited. Okay. I don't sit and message that many people. Just like how I'm not searching for a boyfriend. I just, I can't be bothered. Okay, I feel like it's a phase thing because I feel like

I go through phases if I message quite a few people that I go through phases where I message absolutely no one. Okay, so we've got someone here. This is someone I know, by the way.

I was literally just about to ask. I know what you're reading. I know what you're reading out. Do you know him? He just said, fuck, I can see your nipple because you're wearing like a

top where you're not wearing a bra. and I haven't replied. Have, and I haven't replied. Have I? I haven't replied. No, you're not replied. What? Weirdest thing ever. I know this guy. Do you not think that's fucking weird?

Like, no shit, Sherlock. But also, what do you put to that? You can see my nipple. Like, I know. Has he not ever seen nipples before? I mean, I think it's creepy. I was honestly going to message back saying, that's fucking creepy. It's weird.

But I don't even think it's, yeah, it's not a chat up line. That is, it's you just up line that is it you just know i know this guy is i think yeah it's weird and then there's emojis right love struck i think it's a love struck face uh the dribble the dribble face the dribble face wow really i love it also it's not even like a sexual picture you're in a coat as well you're in a coat and jeans and boots and you can just see the little nipple from the side that's weird so weird that is really weird you got another one here you got a christmas chat up line okay wouldn't mind finding you under the mistletoe this year i mean as far as um chat up lines go for christmas it's not that bad i think that's probably one of the best christmas chat it's better than come and sit on santa's nap that one works apparently though so maybe not but i think i'd rather that one out the two oh same you got another one here as well oh jesus christ it says but you've not replied so i haven't

replied to this no no you've got four separate messages from this person you've not replied to willpower strong they put saffron i think i might fancy you a little bit okay i'd be tempted to reply to that so i'm surprised you didn't and then he put you a little bit. Okay. I'd be tempted to reply to that, so I'm surprised you didn't. And then he put, was a little bit not enough. This was... Oh my God, he's been doing this for two months. No, he hasn't. Yeah, he has.

The first one was 13th October on my birthday. Then he put smooth three weeks later. Oh, see, that's just killed the vibe. Like, even the second one was kind of funny. The smooth is... But then a month later, you put, here we go, one last try for Christmas before I officially give up.

Oh, it's kind of sad. That was the 9th of December. So you've still got time to reply if you would like to. I'm going to leave it. I think it was the smooth for me. I don't really understand that bit.

Just a bit random. Didn't seem so cool. But at least it's still thinking about you for two months straight. Do you want to read want to refine yeah i'd love to read yours you can read the one from so this guy i kind of spot i can't really like it's just one of those situations where like you spoke a little bit and then we bumped into each other a couple of times bumped into each other in ibiza of all places then he turned up at my birthday because he was in the club and it was he just messaged me this week again but you can read that because look at what

chat line he came back in with i feel like we should spice it up a bit maybe i could reply for you that's what i haven't i don't know what he last put his last thing is he's got puppies and he's put labradors there's 10 of them as well it's going to be chaos right i feel like there's something we can okay you could reply like something along the lines of we're having 10 kids i didn't think you wanted that we're having 10 kids let's rein it back a little bit from the kid talk no but i feel like we can put some up well so maybe we could write something along the lines of oh my god i know how you feel my puppies cause chaos too he's gonna be so confused i feel like he's actually gonna be thick and go oh my god what

puppies yeah same because the thing is he's such like an innocent like sweet guy so then that's when we just go far about one more time and see let's see his response yeah yeah we'll just see what he says oh my god i know how you feel i'm gonna put like a cutesy but flirty emoji we'll just put a little winky and then the little emoji yeah okay love that that's actually used in my daily daily texting the monkey one or the actual person one no no no the person definitely not the monkey one right I've sent it how quick is his replies I think they were quite quick I'm not gonna mine it awful the Labradors

what's he sent a picture no they want his story oh they want his story maybe like should we do a Christmas chat up line and see how it works for us I think so

and let's see if it gets me a date this year okay right so because he's messaged you hi yeah I'm gonna hit back with hi Santa you wish for me

good choice yeah okay have you sent it yeah i put a tongue emoji the tongue emoji the oh my god passing my phone back you're joking you should have put christmas emoji then and then i could do s Santa equals angel. Santa equals... There you go. Oh, I've got his notification silenced, but okay. I mean, I'll let you guys know if I do get a response. Yeah, let us know how it goes. I'm quite excited about that.

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together oh you're joking so asked her for a present back i think that is such a common thing because i hear that a lot i think that is the most bizarre i think it's weird if you've bought someone the present like yeah just and i just hate people that remind people that they bought someone something as well two years you bought them a present so therefore it's theirs like you i would rather someone not buy me something if they're gonna remind me of it then me too then to me that isn't a present you i would rather someone not buy me something if they're gonna remind me of it then me too then to me that isn't a present like i'd rather not fucking have it if i was getting a message from my ex two years later at christmas to remind me of the watch they bought me two years

ago yeah i'd be like what was point yeah yeah i mean they could definitely have it back but like really right we got another one because we do in fact have more than one response um it says yes last year he sent me a picture of his niece who i spent a lot of time with when we were together i mean maybe that's no i don't know how i feel like still why is he messaging on christmas day but also i get from his point of view as to why he thought he could do it because he probably thought oh it's a cute picture of the niece on christmas day i don't know how it's a bit weird yeah i don't know if that's like a way of sliding back in yeah using the niece i feel like that journey might be a more oh this is maybe they had a really nice

breakup i don't know this is a nice way of messaging on christmas but still it's kind of sliding in yeah still kind of weird to get yeah she hasn't asked for a picture of the niece do you know yeah she had asked it'd be different that'd be nice but to randomly surprise her with that not too sure we've got another one here another one another one from the one response she said mine did two years ago got a common theme on the two years said merry christmas and thank you for being a big part of my year okay i mean i mean that's the thing like it is sweet it's really sweet that's a nice message that is it but then how do you take that from there but i just don't feel like i don't know it's just if i got a message from my ex and i'll thank you for being a big part of my year i think well why are

you messaging me that like i think it's really lovely but now like what's your i don't know i just i think that's a bit odd i personally wouldn't message my ex saying thank you for being but a big part of my year yeah but i guess that's a nice way of doing it right another one is he messaged me boxing day wanted to try again after he realized how lonely he was so that's just it's just the easy way to pop up isn't it yeah i wonder what he said on boxing day but that's sorry that's your problem now like i hate oh that's not oh no this one bestie he came to my house with a bow on his jumper and said merry christmas oh you're joking you're joking imagine opening the door and it's your ex with a bow on his jumper i would say where's the returns label i just i can't but i mean to come to her house as well that is that's very odd i wonder

if that was on christmas day or like the lead up to christmas she never specified very ballsy very very ballsy kind of fun though i'd be like i think that's like a nice if you're gonna do it on christmas he's gone all out or a jumper and everything but still cool yeah get a man that's your ex it turns up on christmas day with the jumper and a bow on it and just said merry christmas well i've actually thoroughly enjoyed today's episode because we've really got to catch up for the first time and it's actually all been on the podcast like this is our first reactions i've been dying life's the past however many weeks i wanted to tell you those stories but i was like it's not gonna hit the same if i tell her every text honestly i wanted to tell you my stories, but I was like, it's not going to hit the same if I tell her I have a text.

Honestly, I wanted to tell you my one date story because I'm just so proud that I went. I really did do that for all of you guys listening and for you, Anna. Only because everyone kept telling me, you have to go on a date. You have to go on a date. I'm proud.

So I really did do it for that reason. But I also feel like doing this podcast, because obviously this is the last episode of the year. Yeah. I feel like doing this podcast, I think this is the last episode of the year. Yeah. I feel like doing this podcast, I think it's, I don't know, I'm speaking from both of us here, but I feel like it's taught us a lot about ourselves and what we want and also like hearing other people's experiences and stuff as well.

And if it wasn't for this podcast, I wouldn't have gone on a date and I wouldn't have learned that I do actually enjoy them. There you go. So I feel like it's taught me a lot as well. Me too. I feel like seeing dating from everyone's perspectives has one given me hope because i feel like we've had lots of different conversations like obviously talia she's engaged and then we've spoken to a lot of single people as well and i feel like it's just given me a big perspective and like you said

i think i'm speaking with both of us that we're just really happy how we are i'm not looking for anything like i'm not you know currently. Like I'm not, you know, currently like massively swiping on dating apps like I was when I first started this podcast. Kind of just taking everything as it goes. Love that. Which is fun. I'm really happy about that. Well,

I hope everybody at home has a lovely Christmas and New Year. And I really hope that your ex does not pop up to you on Christmas day or turn up to your house with a bow of themselves at the door the door me too i hope you don't get any i hope you have an awful christmas messages this year that's rude oh i thought you were saying i hope you guys don't get any of those oh jesus um yeah anyways have a new have a happy new year everyone merry christmas and we shall see you next year yeah sex lies and dm slides is a spotify original podcast produced by spirit studios with raymond tanner and kate willis as the producers and from spotify the executive producer is rihanna colman