Sex, Lies & DM Slides - 2: “Thanks, step-daddy” with Joe and George Baggs

Episode Date: October 17, 2022

Joe and George Baggs, Googlebox legends, TikTok superstars and fellow podcasters let us slide into their DMs this week… and let’s just say it’s giving BDE. We chatted about our first times, mums always knowing best and what’s it’s REALLY been like for George taking a dip into the dating pool. Of course, our DMs remain open for all of your stories so please keep them coming! Sex, Lies and DM Slides is a Spotify Original podcast. Produced by Spirit Studios with Raymond Tannor and Kate Willis as the producers and from Spotify the Executive Producer is Rhyanna Coleman. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey guys, I am Anastasia Kingsnorth. And I'm Saffron Barker and welcome to Sex, Lies and DM Slides. So each week we invite a guest onto our show to delve into their DMs, to spill the tea, to discuss sex, dating experiences, and basically all of the topics in between the good, the bad and the ugly. And I can't lie, I absolutely love today's episode because, I mean, we have got to know each other very well. We delved deep in today's episode.

And of course, no DM is off limits and no topic is off limits either. Today, we were actually joined by the Bags Brothers, Joe and George, and we spoke everything first time. So the fact that Jordi's actually a virgin. Yeah. So we asked him a lot about that. First time dating. First time kiss. Like first time,

yeah, everything. Everything first times. Like I'm so excited for you guys to hear this episode. I know them too well now. Literally. And don't worry guys, you're about to find it all out too.

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Savings may vary. Eligibility and member terms apply. Basically, at the start of every episode, we have to find out what your relationship status is. Just to go straight into it. We just like going straight into it.

Anna and I are so single, basically, if you want to know us. Same. Same. Yeah, same. No, I mean, I'm kind of like seeing someone

Joe is seeing someone okay so you're technically well you're single but you're not yeah are you in a situationship maybe

no he's on the verge of a relationship no Joe that's good he's really sweet so okay okay so hopefully

yeah that's quite interesting okay that's good so three singles in a situation ship that's what that's like we've got we've just said it's not a situation ship oh it's about to be a relationship that's two different things but this is like the first time joe spoke about this is a this is a world exclusive oh my god oh it's exciting yeah oh look at me getting all embarrassed not me coming into a relationship pod and being like oh they, they're all embarrassed. Are they going to be listening to this as well? Oh, he probably will, yeah.

Yeah, they're coming around to that, aren't they? Yeah. So do you speak a lot about your relationships online? No. Like, never? So, yeah, well, I mean... Yeah, I've never really had a proper relationship, so... Right, okay.

It's never really come to me. So if you do do you think you will do you think you'll share it online I'd like to keep it like private but not like a secret yeah do you know what I mean I think that's the best way yeah I think so yeah like because I don't know how to explain it I wouldn't want people going over to them and like not harassing them but you know what people are like yeah way too invested it's like my life then also I wouldn't want it to be like that i'd never posted them or never had a photo of them or yeah because i think it'd just be like nice to nice to do that also as well i think when you keep it a secret like it always sounds amazing but everyone ends up finding out anyways then it becomes a bigger thing as well so you're actually better off doing what you've just said

anyway i actually like it when people post the other half but don't tag them yeah oh yeah or you know when they cover their face yeah i love that yeah but then we'll just do it just because we're like nosy that's why i love a soft launch you know like when you have not be soft no you have like the first pick is like a wine glass of a hand then you've got like a hand holding oh i love that shit i've got it all pre-planned in my head what i'm gonna do i told you that's psychotic no i'm not doing that that is so funny that's unreal okay so we are also obsessed with your mom we love your mom oh my god we love your mom the tiktok i was crying out the other day was when one of you posted a picture of her on the floor and her laugh. Oh my God. It's her laugh.

It's so good. It's like a seagull. And it's just, once she starts laughing, we start laughing. And then everyone's laughing. And everyone's laughing. But we're not even laughing

at the original joke anymore. We're laughing at her laugh. Her laugh will set us off and then we'll just go from there. But no, she's so sweet. So have you always been close to your mum? Like growing up? I feel like we have. Yeah, yeah. I've always been close to your mum like growing up I feel like we have

yeah yeah I've always been like a massive mummy's boy as well myself really yeah yeah like I've always been she's more of like

I don't know she's more of like a friend than a mum she's like a best friend yeah rather than a mum oh that's cute do you sit and tell her

about like your dating life and like does she help you with that yeah like does she yeah is she like giving you help yeah she's the first person I go to for like any advice

with like relationships and stuff but she's really good at it isn't she she is to be fair she's had like obviously a lot of experience bless her it's been like with my dad i'm not saying she's a slag i'm just saying you know you're just digging yourself a hole yeah i always spoke about this i say things and I just tick myself off the zone. Anywho. She's been my dad for 30 years, hasn't she? Yeah,

that's what I mean. She's like, why don't you say my dad? Like, we've got different dads. Yeah, sorry, what? Yeah.

Oh, that's cute though because I'm really close with my mum. So like, she would give me like, dating advice and stuff. Yeah. But also,

a lot of my friends think it's so weird. Like, I literally tell her everything. So like, even like, when it comes to sex and stuff, like, I would genuinely go and ask my mum's opinion whereas like all my friends think that's bizarre

but you sound like you're really close that you would almost do that too yeah yeah I mean I'm really open I feel like we yeah I feel like we'd do a lot I feel like I would do it when it happens um but yeah I couldn't imagine speaking to like dad about that sort of stuff yeah with dad I'd just be like what it's not this like it's just because he's quite old school that i don't know you know what i mean you know when you're just closer with your mom than your dad and stuff yeah just one of them i tell my mom about like all stuff like that i'll ring her yeah you're the same you would tell your mom everything as well go on a date ring my mom straight up yeah mom this is how it went and i get my mom my mom called me the other day um and

she'll like ask me like loads of questions about like the person if I'm telling her about someone. So she was like, what's this past relationships like? Does it come from loving family? And I'm like, geez. But sometimes I feel like she's got a notebook out like. Oh, 100%. Do you know what I mean? I tell you what though, I think we're actually so lucky

because there's a lot of people, like a lot of my friends don't have that relationship like with any of their parents. Like they could never ever tell them about anything like that yeah and i would find that so hard like it's actually nice because all our moms sound the same in the sense of like they're open and genuinely want what's best for us yeah you know i agree so i would find it really hard to have parents that weren't open in that way do you know what i mean or quite prudish because then it's like that's a completely like it's a massive side to you that then you can't offload or speak to them about do you know what i mean yeah i feel like if you tell a friend or something they'll

just be like yeah yeah do you know i mean they won't take it everyone's got but telling your mom is like they've got more experience as well so they can like guide you through you know what i mean like this happened back in 42 i don't know she's not that she's 42 it was a joke we were talking about this like in another episode as well actually if your mom didn't approve of somebody that you're with, would you stay with them? Yes. Yes. Would you?

Yes. Would you? Yes. I have learned now, no. No, that's not me. But in the past, I've done it. I'd learn that she's right. Do you know what I mean?

Right. So you think your mum's always right? Yeah. Mum's always right, aren't they? Now I do. Now I do. Like, I'd just like stay with that person because you'd probably be like love blind or something at the time.

But I know I'd probably end up- That sounds very toxic, George. I'm not going to lie. Well, you know, I'm a bad boy. I'm really not. I'm really not. But yeah, I feel like then I'd walk in one day and be like, yeah, mum, you're right.

Yeah. Just like sit there like- Oh, I've done that. Yeah, I know. That's what I mean. I feel like you have to do that though to like learn, make mistakes and be like- Yeah, exactly.

Grow older, you know. We love living on the edge. Wiser. We're going to talk about first times well i better leave i better just take time out guys let's take a couple of minutes out this is obviously a perfect first episode for you but you could also talk about because he's been on a few like first dates recently george has never really dated so i've been like going ham on hinge same okay tell us about your you know she made me a hinge profile the other day i just it's not for me it's not i'm a bit of a hinge serial dater i love that oh really yeah i've been on like one hinge uh yeah i've been on like

one hinge day and like met another one but it was like a festival it wasn't really what you arranged to meet at the festival like she was like i'm going to this festival i was like a festival it wasn't really what you arranged to meet at the festival well like she was like I'm going to this festival I was like okay I'll be there and we kind of bumped into each other oh okay did you go just for her no I actually didn't

the music was good the music was absolutely good yeah but yeah I think Hinge is quite cool I like Hinge I feel like it's way better than Tinder yeah I fucking hate Tinder

Tinder's not fun I haven't used a date in so long really I just I just yeah i was really like people lined up yeah do you prefer meeting people though or is it just hinge i prefer meeting people organically out that's how i met my ex and it was a lot better i found i would prefer that but i don't see how that happens like i've never been in a situation where that's happened well i thought it'd be easier for you i just get i just know i've never had a boyfriend i'm so single i just get so drunk like yeah and then i just don't remember like

even what happened with them where i find their number and then i realize that they're not what i thought it's the catfishing it's the catfishing though no it's crazy it's a scary way yeah really well you've got loads of dates and they're like complete catfishes I've met people out recently and been like jeez

you are not you are not that person but then I but would you not FaceTime if I even if I met someone off Hinge I'd FaceTime them

but I'm a FaceTimer I'm a voice noter that's why I can't be arsed with Hinge yeah yeah FaceTiming is the way to go if you're going to meet someone online 100%

because you kind of get like an inkling of what they're going to be like in person I facetimed the boy I went on a date with before I went on a date

with him last night yeah and that was so much better was it yeah yeah because one I knew he was real that would help

and it just I feel like it's just like putting a face to like the conversation yeah it like eases it so when you do go on the first date you're not as nervous

do you know I have a question though actually this is for you Anna because you've been going on a lot of days recently are you kissing every one of these guys that you need no no no no like i was actually gonna ask you this like genuine question because i feel like if it's a good day like i would almost feel guilty like leaving and not kissing them so it's like yeah no I don't I wouldn't initiate

the first kiss personally I'd want them to yeah but that's what I'm saying then yeah so you are even if it was a bad day yes no if it was a bad day

if it was a bad day I wouldn't yeah but then they wouldn't be one either what about my day I went on and the photos I got from Shoreditch House

oh my god George went on a date and went to Shoreditch House. Yeah, and he kept saying that he went to a photo booth once, came back and then like half an hour later, he went back to photo booth and I'm thinking, fuck me. Like you're on the first date with this girl that you've never met before.

And I'm like, that's a lot of photo boothing, right? Anyway, the next morning. Wait, when you say the photo, like actually went into a photo booth? Yeah, like photo booth and got pictures together. Yeah, sorry, set the scene. And then next morning we're in the kitchen. I up these photos and i'm like they literally look like they were in a committed relationship and this was like an anniversary party i've never seen anything

like that every picture and i could i sat there i thought george one day in one day in i literally met that girl that night i couldn't believe it you look married off vodka lemonade is a serious dream yeah but to be fair I feel like photo booths you've kind of got to plan what you're doing I'm not doing that

in a photo booth with my first date okay yeah you do look like you've been together a while that looks like I've just gone joy married I know

it's the tongue one alright guys what tongue one tongue one yeah that was that was a bit rogue for me it was

so how did that end off um she then oh i just can't i can't she'll be watching this i just can't okay basically i'm just taking it slow i'm taking it okay okay yeah i just want to take it slow and see what happens basically yeah okay because i just don't want to make not make the wrong decision but i just want to jump in and like i'd hate for someone to start getting feelings and stuff. I mean,

I mean, to me, as the older brother, I mean, to me, that sounds like if someone had to sit there and evaluate whether

they want to speed me up, it'd be a bit like, oh, you kind of want someone mad into you. You know what I mean? You sound a bit like you're playing with the reserves.

I'm very someone who I think if I know I know so I think I just in fact you just said well I wouldn't want anybody to catch feelings it's like gosh no look

I'm just going to keep my options open do you know what I mean which is what you do when you're dating yeah that's what you do exactly

but I would like to go winter wonderland for summer oh my so I'm sorry to disappoint but it's actually overrated oh yeah apparently i've gone on so many dates winter wonderland and every time i'm really this is so exciting and then i'm like no yeah i just want to do it so i can say i've been okay should i mean i don't even like mulled wine and shit yeah okay so if you were to go on a first date with someone like how would you initiate it but obviously you said you prefer meeting people in real life you're a hinge dater apparently

so apparently so like what did you do do you just message them like should we go here like yeah it was actually quite easy i was just like uh what do you want to do let's go get some food and then i managed to get this is quite a joke i managed to get a gifted meal did she not yeah yeah she does um well she did because when they came up and i was like how much would that be though no it's free i was like okay so you didn't go planning it was gifted. Oh, no, no, I did. So you messaged them before? No, I, as his mummager, wrote up the message to get him the gifted meal for the day.

No, you didn't. I did. It was a nice meal. There was like a fucking fire breathing and shit. Yeah, it was good. Wow. I mean. Perks of the job, eh?

I mean, she might have thought that was impressive. Oh, yeah. I feel like I was like big boy. Do you know what I mean? I was like sitting there like, yeah. It's good there. I feel like you should have pretended that you didn't know. And then like for all she know, then they was like, oh, like, you know.

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that would have been cooler. I'm just not like clued on. Like clued up. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I'm just a bit dumb.

Like dumb in there like that. I'm just a bit like. But no, it was a nice. It it was a nice night can we talk about you guys to be fair we wasn't even like asking how your date we're just saying like date in general like first date how would you initiate it how did you initiate yours joe i actually don't know this he just kind of like i'm seeing this guy now i was like oh no we just said we'd go and meet for a drink and then um we met up and it was actually really cute but then after that he was like i want to do something a bit more like you know like non-dating as in like an activity which i think can be quite rogue because like also i get quite competitive and oh

i'm so and if i'm not good at something then i'll get stressed out so we went to do he's like let's go do a triathlon we went to golf like um you know like the bars in london like putsch like that type of thing so we went there um but i hadn't eaten for like half the day and so i had like three drinks and i was like i can't even see this stick in front of me um not an innuendo yeah um and then um yeah and then i lost and i had a bit of an arse ache about it so i was like now i'm hungry anyway it worked out for the best didn't it because we had another date after that but i'm one of those people i feel like i have to do like multiple dates in different situations to get

to know them yeah but i couldn't be someone that's just like come around straight away and i would never no i would never i've done that before like for the first date yeah it no no you have to see how they're in public with people with waiters that's a big thing as well that is how they speak to them you guys are like so advanced with all this shit advanced like yeah do you know what yeah i but i've been in a lot of like actual relationships. So rather than like dating. Yeah. So I just now know what I fucking want. Yeah.

I can't be bothered for the things in between. I agree. I date with the end goal. Well, we'll sit aside. Actually, the divide works quite well. No,

no, no, no, but I actually need what you guys have. Like I need to start going on dates. Our life is so good. Well, I guess we've learned um shit dating but you've only been on like one yeah yeah you need to start yeah it was a good day it was a good day no actually the first ever day i went on was from a girl local back at home and she didn't look like how she did in the pictures at all i never faced her anything um and she took me to like a pub in the middle of a roundabout it was like a three-star

pub the food was so bad we didn't eat the food and then i just went home that was like my first ever proper date oh it was like a double date i was double day maybe that's what put me off for all them years yeah maybe it was a pub inside a roundabout i feel like you need to i feel like what george is doing is he like has one day and he's like oh i feel like just smash out like multiple per week maybe like twice a week you know all right it's right you look at me like i've been on two dates in the last month i don't think that's that bad i feel like you should be that's good if you've got time just smash them out yeah yeah do like different activities and also as well like

you're just getting treated left right and center babe yeah exactly i've got to pay for the dates what you got gifted what do you mean yeah but they won't be gifted every time would you want george to be in a relationship um i don't know what he'd be like to be honest i don't know what i'd be like um i mean whatever makes him happy like i don't i don't care but i do feel like it would help you like maturity wise maybe to i thought i'm quite mature to meet someone fine or just carry on doing what you're doing it's obviously working very well um yeah i think but do you even want a relationship i don't know i actually don't you even want a relationship i don't know i actually don't know what i want like i don't know i feel like i feel like i do um but you really sound

convincing it i'm really convinced yeah i feel like i do but i just obviously with with like work and stuff i'd want it to be not like another weight on my shoulders sort of thing yeah i don't want to be too picky because i don't feel like i can be picky at this stage i'm at but what do you mean no but not like too picky no i think you can be as picky as you want yeah it's your relationship in your life yeah but i feel like then i will literally be like the 40 year old virgin no but also as well like i think if you're not picky then like it's never gonna last last anyways. Yeah. I don't know, guys. Maybe I just need to get like,

like you can go on these things where they teach you how to date properly and that. That's not how I've been looking at it. I honestly think you're over-thinking it. I think you're over-thinking it. I think you are. It doesn't help though that like millions of people know I'm a virgin and stuff because of social media. I get daily messages and stuff. it doesn't help though that like millions of people know I'm a virgin and stuff because of social media and like

I get daily messages and stuff but that doesn't help how did that come about like you telling people you were a virgin I don't know I'm pretty sure like

actually yeah it wasn't me how did it come about I think I think I made like one video about it and then it just kind of like went off from there

people like tagging their mates and then like mum would roast him in videos about it but you'd still post it and i would obviously edit and post right obviously obviously what can i say i'm a content creator when you lose your virginity you'll never even tell people because i think people are so excited about oh no you're a virgin now we're getting people in the street shout us saying that he's lying um really i'm not gonna lie i didn't believe

it i thought i asked you why she's is George really a virgin I don't believe it no one believes it but like I'm like I wouldn't keep it for this long I wouldn't stay it's now sacred

I think it's now hit the point where if you're doing it you've got to marry her oh thanks no pressure I'm like

I'm missing I'm missing but yeah I'm just going to see how it goes take each day as it comes do you reckon I'm like I'm messing I'm messing but yeah like I'm just gonna see how it goes take each day as it comes

do you reckon you'll make a tiktok once you're not a virgin anymore saying I'm not a virgin anymore we're throwing a party we're gonna throw a party

I know so again no pressure but we're waiting on the party everyone's waiting for that invite okay so talking

of dating and everything who do you think should pay on the first date unless it's gifted it's harder for me i was about to say it's so yeah like i don't know what is it like heart for heart i don't know i don't know i think for me it depends on how much i like them if i had like a first date and i was like i really want to see him again i'm really into them then i would probably pay like what you did the first time with this person no they paid did they no the second time we went out i think it was the second time i when he went

to toilet i paid because he paid oh that's cute i can i just say i'm very much a person that if i'm paying i do it like when i go to the toilet I hate surprise yeah that's that's quite cute like yeah and also yeah I know what you mean you don't want to fight over it because I know yeah it's just like the way to stand and they have a car between and you're just sat there it's just so awkward isn't it 100% so yeah that's but it is a weird like power dynamic thing with like guys especially because you're like kind of like what do you do and then if you're not into them you're like I feel like we've how it's been for years it's just like the men part on the first date yeah do you like it's just i feel like that's just how it is isn't it i do feel bad for guys that it's like that like i do i that i thought yeah it's not really

but like i'll take it but there are my mates been on a few dates with guys that have um like at the end been like we're gonna split this yeah and she's been like oh like she's fully intentionally wanted to go on these dates just for a free meal and then and she's like been broke like been like i've got no money and then like halfway through they're like oh yeah we'll split this yeah and she's like oh my god that is pulling out a monzo like shit which is quite funny would that put any of you off if you were going on a date and they said can we half it i think first day it would me no i'm just being honest

only because i just think well they don't like me enough then and like also why did they take me out like if they're the one that's initiated no initiated the date then do you know what i mean yeah if i was the person like let's go out then of course yeah but if they're saying i want to take you out and then they're asking yeah i do get what you're saying because the guy i wanted a date with i kept saying let me pay for this drink so you went no because i asked you out so i'm gonna pay yeah that's what i mean okay because i sounded really bad but you know you know what i mean no no i get what you mean yeah like if they say i want to take you out and then they offer half i'd be like i'm leaving now to be fair even half it's not that bad but it's when

literally they expect you to pay yeah and they've asked yeah that's just weird yeah i mean i haven't had that thankfully but like yeah you know if a situation arose no no so if you're on a first date what topics would you want to avoid talking about exes would you not talk about that on the first day i feel like it's just like a deep dark hole to go into in it yeah that's like do you ask i don't know i don't think so i feel like i'm always so curious and like i always like i almost don't know. I don't think so. I feel like I'm always so curious. And like, I always,

like, I almost don't want to know early on. Like, also, they've been with a million, I'd just rather know now. Like, I'm not going to sit there and be like,

tell me about your ex. But like, yeah, I guess it's like, also, I do think if someone starts slagging off their ex, like on your first date, that's a complete red flag for me.

Cause I'm like, if you're like, straight away saying this and still bothered, that's no. I think, I think, yeah, you just maybe, not like asking about the ex, if you're like straight away saying this and still bothered that's no i think i think yeah you just maybe not like asking about the ex but it's like how long was your last relationship and like stuff like that not being like so your ex a dickhead or yeah yeah trying to think about what else i wouldn't talk about i don't really know with you ibs i would not talk about how much i shit

i would also be somewhere that avoids cheese and milk i thought there's not really any topic that i'd like particularly avoid on a date i thought maybe i wouldn't want to start like getting really deep first day i think money i think money oh yes that's true actually yeah if someone said to me how much do you earn yeah i'd say just about to imagine sitting there and be like so what's your yearly income i'd be like is anyone asking that though i feel like people do people are very curious yeah yeah i've had mates that have been asked about like how much they earn like but just like i guess in the influencer field or the content creator field like people have been like oh so like you know

how much you get per campaign which i'd be like sorry i'm on a fucking interview right now yeah um but yeah no there have been like i've heard of people doing it which is very very odd sugar mama hunting in it okay so obviously we've already touched on kissing on the first date what about sleeping on the first date with them i'll sit out this one i'll sit out this one. I'll sit out this one. From experience. Yeah. Let me get up my list. Would you though? I really hope people are watching video like whilst I listen to this right now so they can see this.

I don't know. Would I? I've like, no. And it's never really like happened. If, yeah, obviously it's not happened.

But I'm saying like, if I've gone back to someone's after first meeting I'm like obviously it's never happened so I just don't think I would I don't know I feel like I wouldn't if I actually wanted it to be serious with that person yeah yeah depend on how much you've drunk speaking from experience yeah I mean I'm very tempted once you're very drunk yeah yeah yeah I think I think if I weren't saying serious I wouldn. Do you think as well it's because you'd wake up in the morning and they're all like, you or them would be sitting there like, oh, she's a bit of a slag, like she slept me on the first date.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, well, yeah, no, but it is. Would you say that? No, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that, but I'm saying, would you think people, or the person you slept with would be like, do you know what I mean? I do feel like there is one.

Is that a new fear unlocked that is a terrible question obviously not people I've definitely got mates like that I do think as well it's one rule for guys

and one rule for girls I'm sorry but it just is Joe I've definitely got mates like that you need to change your mates and it's not fair because they're also sleeping with them

so it doesn't make any sense it's too much yeah yeah so it wasn't a any sense yeah yeah yeah yeah surely then like but i would be thinking are they now think i'm easy that is what i'm thinking yeah like fully yeah i've done it on the first day yeah a bit like putting out on the first date like that was easy for you do you know what i mean yeah i feel like it just ruined the excitement

then you'd worry that do they do that with every day well yeah that's another thing actually would you want to find out what their body count is on the first day i got a problem sorry i would want to know on the first day would you no that ruins everything no no actually that's wrong say not ruins everything for me but i feel like in that moment if of a first day i feel like i probably wouldn't want to know yeah like imagine i'm not gonna ask like... How do you get on the conversation? Would you ever want to know? I don't know, but I'd be intrigued. Yeah, no, I would want to know

because then I know what I'm signing myself up for. So I have a question. If you really like someone, so you have to... So to be in a relationship with them, like, you know, eventually, would you have to know their body count? Or could you just do it and not know?

Yeah, no, I'd want to know. I fully would have to know. Oh no, I'd want to know. It wouldn't change anything, really, would you have to know their body count? Or could you just do it and not know? Yeah, no, I'd want to know. A fully would have to know. Oh, no, I'd want to know. It wouldn't change anything, really, if I loved them, but I would still want to know. It doesn't actually matter, but I would just want to know. Well, then I'd say there's a door. But that's a lot.

Yeah. Why? No, the guy that I'm speaking to, I haven't asked yet. Are you now thinking I need to ask? I'm panicking. I've got back sweat. Do you want to know but do you i don't know whether i want to know not that it would change anything but i'm just like because he's older than me as well and mine's very low so i'm a bit like but then he might surprise you and be low then it'll make you feel better at ease

and also won't you always be because my thing is as well is like i would hate to be in a situation where like someone i'm with or seeing or in a relationship with is like slept with somebody else in the room whatever and i didn't know and they know and i don't know like i just i don't know i hate the idea of that like i didn't i would just rather know you'd ask for names i'm not gonna be like i need to do the list no give me a list of locations. No, but yeah, I feel like I'd rather know more than less. Fine. Yeah, yeah, I get you.

I don't know if I'd want to know names. No, that's a bit. No, I wouldn't want to know names if it's like a big list. But if I was in a relationship with someone and like there was somebody that was like in a room and they had been with them, I'd want them to like pull me aside and tell me so I knew. So if you're at a party. Yeah, then I'd want to know. I feel like I'd want to know like pull me aside and tell me so i knew so if you're at a party yeah then i want to know i've slept with that person i feel like i mean that would make

the party so shit for you yeah i should be staring at him all night like we have better sex oh god i don't know i don't know i don't feel like that'd help anything no do you know what i feel like it is better to know that stuff early on because i've got mates in relationships who have found out stuff like that like very far into the relationship that they're like shagged like mutuals that's what i mean like stuff like that you just wouldn't want to know yeah and then especially if they're close and friends now do you know what i mean yeah oh see that panics me he's worrying that panic no no i don't i really don't like personally if someone's really close to someone like a really close mate and you're seeing them

and then you find out that they slept together before or had a situation ship that for me completely throws me i agree with because i'm like surely there must be like a small like if you to have sex you have to have some form of spark with someone, some form of attraction. So to then see that, I'd be like, what? Yeah.

Yes. But what if they're like, oh, it was five years ago. You know what I mean? But it's still, no, I completely agree that it's still happening.

It's there in your head. I don't know. I think it's. What, in your head like, oh, you shagged them once, you'll do it again.

Yes. You never know. Well, not even that What, in your head, like, oh, you shagged them once, you'll do it again? Yes. You never know. Well, not even that, but I guess you must think, well, I know that they're attracted to each other. There was an attraction at some point. I've literally had exes where I found out, like,

someone that they're really, really close mates with then, and they slept together, like, multiple times, and you're like, but there was an attraction then. I don't know, maybe that's just an interior street thing.

That's what throws you when people are like, I agree. When people are like, I'm really good friends my ex i'm like what that's such a red flag that throws me i'm like a red flag yeah i'm like look you can be you can be friends and stuff i think amicable was fine seeing him in the street be like you're right but when they're like still hanging around we're still messaging and stuff like that i'm like you were literally like yeah shagging for five years and now you're like real good friends and yeah do you know if you're friends with your ex you're definitely gonna get back with your ex at some point

see i think i think that too i think that when you cut it off you just can't be mates i've tried it it literally just does not work yeah it doesn't work but that's how i deal with things i feel like i have to go like silent yeah yeah you just got yeah yeah I agree out of sight out of mind exactly coming from the dating expert well done Jill thanks guys

yeah you're really good at giving the advice I know fuck man maybe didn't take it okay so you guys sound like you do speak to a lot of people that will have a lot of people in your DMs anyways so our favorite part of the podcast

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Learn more at amex.ca slash yamxtermsapply. Am I bringing up like a chat? We're just going to... If you've got a chat to bring up. Yeah. I have a really funny one um this this dates back to the 5th of january and am i reading it yeah okay and just look at just just scroll through because it's really funny this is one of my favorite ones okay so this is somebody you haven't replied to no never okay so this is this is somebody replying to you. Yeah. This is, this says,

I've decided you don't need a Christmas diet. Your belly is too cute. They get better. I mean, did it make you feel good about yourself? Obviously fucking not. No, this person strikes me as a feeder. Permanent no diet. Oh my God my my diet is failing too come to the terms of the fact i'm stuck with this belly haha by the way these are all separate messages yeah all replies to each

story do you post that you eat a lot or like are you posting food for him to reply to this you'll see like i posted like one burger once and a hot dog and that set him off last night maybe no they're actually the weirdest one yeah were you adopted very invested in my life yeah it's all the same person it's all the same person like different different replies this one is oh my god skinny mini skinny that was when i got my summer bod you can see the progression in my life like through this guy's dm when did he get so toned what the fuck i miss your chubby belly wow oh no well it really is the progress yeah it is do you know what who needs progress picks when you have this nameless account replied to honestly yeah it is do you know what who needs progress pics when you have this nameless account replied to honestly yeah it's replied to all your i think he has something

like some sexual thing with food as well show us the blow stop it i fucking love that you're always stopping your face no this is so good love the blow belly angle it just goes on i know that it just goes on i know wow so that's that's one of my favorite dm threads i'm not gonna lie that is so funny i've never really had anything like that i'm gonna be honest i don't know i have to be honest not like i mean i've had weird dms yeah i was saying before i've had a guy he was dming me telling me that we were soulmates for honestly about three years and he sent a Valentine's Day card to my PO box

admitting his love to me this full and my mum was like oh that's sweet I was like is it sweet or is it scary is it sweet or have I got a stalker

like it's all sweet right kind of sweet until it oh yeah go sorry you go I've got like just

I've screenshotted him you can just scroll from the right there's like a chat where someone done a Joe and didn't stop replying then i've got one with this woman who's got a kid and she's actually like fit okay and did you reply i i like an issue actually kind of a bit of both okay i can't see you especially after this podcast no i'm like yeah i'm like just give the kids whoever you know so apparently you're getting a lot of boys in your dms yeah i get like a lot of dads and stuff like with kids so it's actually like normal accounts and i i click on their stuff and it's

like took so and so to watch the football today and i'm like you've got a five-year-old son that's really weird weird this guy's been replying to your story just saying sexy sexy but like some some of the stories are like ads like we've done a jd yeah they are we've done a jd ad and you still popped up saying sexy i'm like that's all he's putting is this a dad oh hot boy um no i don't think so i'd like 22 23 maybe okay well i don't think that's your target audience wish i watched it oh food looks good so maybe about youtube posting food that everyone loves maybe we need a food blog he has replied to every single one of your stories yeah hot sexy boy but he's like wow but he's replying like every three four days since january oh my god that's a lot of effort

maybe you should say thanks one day no yeah no because i feel like then they're just like they've got you no the worst thing yeah but then you just slide put it in general i've yeah i've done that i've done that before i replied something and then i've been like oh no because they've like bombarded i've got like you know you can call on insta and i've had like live calls yeah i've had that i've been like right i need to switch this over now because it was scary you know no i turned it all off though turn the notifications off i i have this guy in my dms i don't go on my dms every day but but whenever I go in it, I see him and it's like, I think he's on like day 296 now or something like that. Like ridiculous waiting for a response. Oh my God.

I've got the same thing. Oh, does he change the day? I had one of those. He gave up on 40. He went on like nearly 300 now. And I just think. He gave up on 40 and I thought you were getting nowhere.

I need a man that's, um, yeah, that wants me and wants to keep on doing it for you to be fair maybe this is what i need i mean that is what you call love day 360 is that how many days are in a year 365 and be like wow didn't do that well at school um and yeah basically be like congratulations you've earned a dm safi's actually do that Please remember to do that. Do you know what, guys? If we get to 365, I will let you know.

Just go. Just go. Okay, you've earned a DM from me. What's your best chat up line? See you from there. And then be like, come back tonight. In general, 365 days. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?

And you might get something better than a DM. Yeah. Might get a gift. Oh, my God. How old is this guy, by the way? I don't know he's private I can't even see

oh that's annoying I know I like how I was sparring the work to request a following he'll be like he will pass out yeah but then I feel

too guilty unfollowing yeah I mean I don't even see my own friends on my timeline anymore it's so annoying

I just love playing with people's emotions I'm joking you're sick but no people are just like so invested right let's see this other DM then Timeline mini-mult. So annoying. I just love playing with people's emotions. I'm joking. You're sick. But no, people are just so invested. Right, let's see this other DM then. Oh, God.

The one with the... You being a stepdad. Where is it? The thought of that makes me actually physically sick. It starts from here and scroll along. Wait, what? Oh, it's you replying to her. Yeah. The old classic milf.

So he sent her her picture. Yeah. He didn't put milf. He did. He did. You just sent her a picture like milf. That is brilliant. Straight in.

Do you know what? It's always good to be forward. Nice little bikini picture of her. Yeah, I just thought. Wait, how old is she? That are you guessing? I think she's like 25 okay really and then she put thanks step daddy

she put the occupation is still open b and he you put sign me up when do i start anything to have a slice of that oh You put, sign me up, when do I start? Anything to have a slice of that. Anything to have a slice. Who, like, was you by yourself? I think I was pissed at this point. Because this was recent. We were in Belgium when I was messaging her.

So this was like this weekend. So you were doing this next to me. She put, starting from whenever you want. No, starting from whenever you want baby cakes oh my god no no no baby cakes so you put now in caps but can i just say you put this at 1 34 in the afternoon okay so we were eating together in a restaurant when i read caps as well it's like someone's shouting now and she put oh let me think okay but the okay in caps and then you just sent a winky face i'm just i'm just too good there's more i think just genuine question when she said baby cakes did you not think that was enough oh no i think she

was saying that as a joke but i i said no no well that gives me you don't know the woman yeah no if i told you who it was you'd be like we'll have a debrief later some family therapy yeah that's that's like oh that's what i have a lot of like only fans models as well missing me really but like you've got them all but like yeah so why are you still a virgin because i'm not doing my first time recorded but they'll click on the like you have a lot to live up to now, though? I don't know. Yeah. I just feel like

with it being such like a, not like a big thing, but people knowing on socials and that, like, I don't know, actually. No, probably not. I just feel like I want to do it with someone I'm comfortable with

and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think that OnlyFans model should matter. You don't do it, then. It's 2022. I don't think we should shame sex work and show it. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying I don't. A lot of people do OnlyFans model should matter. You go do it then. It's 2022. I don't think we should. I'm not saying that.

I'm just saying I don't. A lot of people do OnlyFans nowadays. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. And also if you're doing it in your room, it doesn't mean you're like. I'm just saying I don't really want it recorded and all stuff like that. That's the whole point of the job.

Obviously not. I wouldn't want my first time on camera. Do you know what though? If you're wanting to make a good bag out of this and you want a capital i'm going full chris jenna right now bid for a tiktok live oh great great this is such a money making opportunity it really is imagine the amount of gifts oh george you could be a millionaire no i'm fine. Thanks. Let's go. Okay, so this week we've also asked our listeners

about their first time stories. So we're going to go through. We've got some really good ones, haven't we? This might make me feel a bit better about myself. I'm obsessed. Yeah, it's a lot of people

going through the same stuff actually or way way way worse honestly some of these are so funny so someone sent one in right so do we have to so we're talking are we giving them advice well we can give advice our opinion just yeah our opinion on it i guess maybe advice so this one was actually kind of sent in by someone that i know and then i realized the story was about me when i was reading it i was like oh it's just so funny i've done this and i looked at the name i was like i know that's me because that's me so he put i had sex with this rocket next to my pal and her friend having sex and then after she had another friend to sleep in the corner of the room i know no right to give context surely not that can't be first time because that is just that's like no that's not how you want to experience oh god no not losing

my friend next to me wait so there was like two separate shags so maybe it was his first time potentially the other guy with your friend to be honest probably so yeah we were you had like a mini gangbang no yeah basically yeah but we didn't cross over no but you're probably like you don't know the mates probably like hey i high-fived my friend. Oh, well, well then. No. We're basically, okay. I love that. And then my other friend was asleep in the corner.

And she had headphones on because she was like, I don't want to hear it. And then the next morning, she was like, in between each song, like when it went quiet, she could like hear it. She could hear it? Oh my God.

No. I don't. I had, I was, I was basically standing at my mate's um and she brought a guy back and they were found by her mum outside in a graveyard doing it in a graveyard outside and then um i know and then i was laying there on this inflatable bed next to her bed and they were going at it and i had like one headphone in but i think the other i had like wires this time a long time ago she should and um basically he's so he stopped halfway through and was like i think i've got gonorrhea

and she was like no it's all good i haven't been tested all summer and then they carried on and finished and i was laying there and i was like someone better change those bed sheets the next morning i was like i'm sorry i've got to intervene here that was fucking gross um yeah how grim and you're saying what friends am i with like who i know maybe check up on your own mates all right yeah this was a long time ago but yeah how mad that's mad that is i would not carry on if someone had just said oh i might have would it just kill the whole mood yeah it was kind of like a one-up like oh don't worry i'm attested all summer and they're both like we're riddled i was like oh my god no that was grim well going back to what you were saying anna apparently it's quite common because this girl put me and my best friend

lost our virginity at the exact same time in a bed next to each other. Apparently it's a common thing. I've heard quite a lot of people do it. I just couldn't think of anything worse. It must be like a holiday thing. Oh, it was on holiday. It was on holiday.

Not in this country. Your experience was, but this girl might not be. Yeah, not in Cornwall or something. Not in Cornwall I hear the rules go out the window when you're on the holiday on holiday

yeah but also losing your virginity like with your I don't know like next oh no

that's how you think but then like if it was my mate they'd be like yeah just checked bird last night my mate

that's how everyone thinks so different I think yeah lad culture is also very like it's a thing I was in B3 like double table do you know what i mean yeah i know but like losing

your virginity to that though yeah because that's like that's like i don't know when you lose your virginity i don't i like everyone like especially when you're young as well like you get nervous whatever why the how would you want other people in the room like i just i just can't understand the logic audience do you exactly audience like yeah horrible you're doing great but maybe for some people maybe she thought oh it's gonna be like less nerve-wracking because my friend's there too going through the same thing i think like what happens if one of the couples said said couples finishes before the other couple and you're losing your virginity? What are they just sitting there watching?

Cause I know about you, but once I'm done, I'm done. I'm like fucking get me a glass of water and a fucking bagel. Do you know what I mean? So I just wouldn't even know what to like, what to do.

I'd feel like awkward around like moving. Like, do I move? Do I go to the bathroom? Yeah. Would you breathe? Do you just lay there? But you've done this.

I've done it. Yeah. But it was, it was really dark. Fine. So we went straight to sleep after didn't sit and have a chat that was great dude that was so good like without being too too much did you not hear each other and just yeah i heard it was like who could be the loudest we just we had a discussion the next morning like that was really weird oh did you debrief oh yeah we debriefed as soon as i left yeah god we debriefed you i don't think you could not debrief yeah no that's one stick of the list that's like a massive elephant in the room isn't it yeah like just sitting there the next morning

like so that was last night yeah great how was yours yeah i heard all of it yeah really good sounded like great just trying to eat like your bacon in the morning like oh what are you doing today then okay so another one is i haven't actually had sex yet but i'm actually scared to have sex as i don't know if i will enjoy it i should i just hit hit with this one do it i think like it's one of those things you'll never know unless you try so you you're just going to have to go outside your comfort zone and try it. Yeah. But it is a very daunting thing. And I feel like there's so much societal pressure nowadays to lose your virginity.

Because I felt like that when I was at school. Everyone was losing their virginity and I hadn't at that point. And I felt pressure to lose it. Because I was like, oh, everyone's experiencing this. Like, I also want to know what it's like. But like, if you're listening and you haven't lost your virginity, it's not an issue. Yeah. I regret mine when it happened. I don't even know what it's like, but like if you're listening and you haven't lost your virginity, it's not an issue. Yeah. I regret mine when it happened.

I don't even know the guy's name. I don't think it's that deep. Like I'm, I'm sitting there. It hasn't changed me or anything. Yeah. People take the piss out of it and all that. And I do think like when,

when you know, you'll know, like, especially if you're in that position where like you're scared, you shouldn't feel a pressure because you then know that it's not right exactly i agree my advice is don't do it during halloween dressed up because it just makes it fucking weird not role play on your first time i know dressed as a clown as well the whole thing was a joke where was this when you lost your virginity yeah no way. You've got some rogue stories. No, it is rogue. And he was apparently fresh out of prison. And...

Where are you going with this? Yeah. And he was very strangly as well. It was very weird. It was very weird. I'm going to need therapy after this. We both will. Anna, do you want to read this next one?

Oh, okay. We're involving a sex toy in this one. My first ever guy whipped out a vibrator from his drawer, but found out that he used to use it on his ex. Oh, God. I hope he cleaned it. Nah, nah, nah, nah. I don't, I don't know.

How'd you find that out? Yeah. Must have found that out later on. Surely he wouldn't just whip out and be like i used some of my ex no i feel like you know what i mean unless you know i understand the context if that was i'd be like oh like because depending on their preferences during like for sex you'd be like oh like who have you used that on then i would be so turned off if you just sat there and was like yeah i've used that on my ex smell that that was gross

sorry that was crude i feel like i'm having so many fears unlocked after this conversation fucking shit advice we're giving people as well I'll be sat home like all we're telling them is we agree with you and it's disgusting oh my god no I don't know what I'd do in that situation well I do I'd leave

you'd just be like buy me a fresh one do you know what I mean buy me a new one don't stick it in the wash and we'll be fine no

don't want no old stuff but also I think using a vibrator on the first time is quite like interesting. I don't know. I've never thought about that. I'll keep it in mind.

Bring an insectoid for your first time. Yeah. Maybe like if, I don't know, the girl like needs to ease into it, might be like a easier way to relax them. Surely that's why you've got these. No. All right. I. No? Alright. I actually want to die.

I actually fucking want to die. That might be one of the best things I've ever heard. But it's the context that's coming from you. You're saying this like you're missing it.

I know. It's like I've missed and done it all. You know what I mean? I would never guess you're a virgin. That is for sure. I know. No, I do have like a big bottle,

do you know what I mean? When I say this stuff and I'm like, actually, I've never done it. I'm just like living a massive guessing game. No, it's all good.

Okay, so guys, before we wrap up this podcast, we would just like to ask you guys what is some advice for people listening at home that you would give to somebody for their first time or first times in anything i feel like i'm gonna need to take your advice i was gonna sound like we need to give you that's kind of true jo joy maybe you can give advice i would say don't rush it which is funny coming from me to do it like my tics about george but i would say don't rush it because i felt the pressure when i did it and then afterwards i was a bit like oh that wasn't nice you know what i mean i feel like sometimes your first time sets you up for like expectations

and what you prefer sexually like because that's that's what sets the precedent of it so if you rush it then do you know what I mean you might have like an unhealthy relationship with sex I'm not saying that I do now but do you know what I mean like yeah by rushing it that can happen whereas if you take your time and if you meet someone you like and that type of thing but then again if you want to get it over and done with and do you know what I mean just go to a club and do whatever you can do but that's my advice anyway i think like coming from me being a virgin getting a bit emotional it's hard no being a virgin that like as i said before it doesn't change me or anything like that i don't i'm quite lucky though because i don't really care

do you know what i mean that's such a good thing though yeah i'm just so like with everything a lot of people like a lot of people like, a lot of people want it. It's just why people feel the pressure. And it's so much easier said than done, but obviously it doesn't change like who you are. You're still going to be the same person. It's,

it's just something that happens behind closed doors. And when it happens, it will happen. Do you know what I mean? Just don't, don't really rush it. Even though I do want to get over and done with. You'll meet the right girl.

Yeah. Maybe on Hinge. Who knows? Maybe. Who knows? Just need to get out there. You and your voice knows. Me and my voice knows. Oh, I love. you'll meet the right girl yeah maybe on Hinge who knows maybe who knows just need to get out there you and your voice notes me and my voice notes alright love

you and your cosplay being a dad in the bloody year yeah me being daddy can we just end it on that line oh well thank you honestly so much guys

for coming on our podcast today because I really felt like you brought the energy thank you and we love to see it and i felt like we found out a lot about each other because i had never met you guys before this yeah yeah so um we've definitely learned a lot about each other so yeah i've got to know you a bit better now great thank you for having us yeah it's been fun i've learned too much about george we will be having words in the you're having a debrief when you leave you guys thought you knew everything about each other until today the cab ride back would just

be silent staring out the window i feel like whenever you go away again together as well you'll be looking at george's phone like what is he right you'll never be able to sit at a dinner table with him normally now oh yeah sorry guys remember to slide into our dms with your own sex lies and dm slide stories for us to read out in the next episode. And if we don't see you in our DMs, we shall see you next week. Thanks, guys. That's a wrap. Sex, Lies and DM Slides is a Spotify original podcast produced by Spirit Studios with Raymond Tanner and Kate Willis as the producers.

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