Sex, Lies & DM Slides - 28. Do we believe in... Karma

Episode Date: November 9, 2023

The saying goes that what goes around comes around and when it comes to boys screwing us over, we are firm believers. In today's episode we unpack the idea of karma and whether it's a more mature approach to wish people well and move on from situations.. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

let's go hi everyone and welcome back to sex lies and dm slides a new episode um last episode was talking all about the exes um and how they always come running back i feel like we've had a lot to catch up on so we've been speaking a lot about past experiences i promise we will speak soon about like current situations even though right now so dry for me there's nothing at all um that's why we're having to revisit the last past year of our life yeah yeah until we have something new to catch up on yes um but i'm very excited for today's episode actually um because me because this is a new series that we're doing called Do You Believe In? And today's topic is karma. And this is something I feel very, very passionate about, if I'm being completely honest. Me too. I feel like we're both going to have the exact same answer to this do we believe in karma three two one yes

very much so yeah in last week's bonus episode we spoke about like ghosting and stuff and could like do we have our own karma because we've ghosted boys on dating apps so does that mean we're gonna get karma now like potentially yeah because the thing is though i don't feel like i've ever ghosted anyone okay i have ghosted a lot of people i'm gonna be completely honest okay but hang on hang on did you not say in the last episode that you hadn't ghosted anyone no no no no no i have ghosted a lot of people but like in the sense but not someone i've been speaking to for such a long time oh okay okay i feel like that's not really ghosting isn't that just ignoring isn't that like a separate thing or is that ghosting and ignoring um okay we'll say they're separate but they could blend very easily

no okay but what i mean is if i'm speaking to someone every single day for weeks on end i would never just ghost them ever okay so you're talking like people you just spoke to for a couple of days that's what i'm saying like if i have spoken to them or like a day or like they've sent literally like we've exchanged like three messages and i couldn't be bothered to reply i don don't class that as ghosting. I just class that as ignoring. Okay, so you've ignored. You've ignored lots of people. I've ignored lots of people.

But I don't really actually think that is ghosting. I know that sounds ridiculous. But do you know what I'm saying? Like, it's not like I've been speaking for months and then I disappear off the face of the earth because I think that is so out of order there's not like feelings involved no exactly there shouldn't be feelings involved no there shouldn't be so then it's ignoring but if there's feelings involved then it's ghosting exactly there we go that's our new definition

yeah but maybe we are still getting calmer for ignoring. Maybe we are. Like, I mean, I was completely honest. I kind of have ghosted people in the past, but I've learned from my mistakes. I wouldn't do that again. Like fully though, when they've had emotions, you think you've ghosted them. Well, that's me being like really forward in the fact,

thinking, oh my God, they definitely must have liked me. Like, yeah, they had emotions towards me. Maybe they didn't so maybe I didn't go to them do you know what I mean I don't know how they felt about me you're speaking for some a fair amount of time yeah I think kind of I don't know I feel like maybe it's ignoring then I'll tell myself it's ignoring but to be honest though like my luck in like dating this year I've only really had good karma I don't think I've yeah yeah I mean coming back yeah unless you can think of like a time where it hasn't I feel like Carl's left right and center yeah you know me I'm loving a 30 plus year old man like you know I'm 23 now like I'm going for like it's giving dad it's actually giving dad what I'm going

for I'm really looking for a husband but yeah I feel like I've only had good karma this year so maybe my karma hasn't come to me yet for ignoring these people because I think that is the thing with karma like karma doesn't have a time scale it can happen immediately or it could happen like 10 years down the line honestly I don't care when it happens to someone but do I want someone to get karma who's hurted me yes yes one million percent yes we do one million percent let's go. Terms apply. Let's go. I think if you screw someone over, you should absolutely get bad karma. And I'm not going to do anything. I'm going to sit and I'm going to watch and I'm going to enjoy you get bad karma.

But I'm talking like when I say like I want you to have that karma I kind of want you to sound like such a bitch I want you to have to feel the way that you made me feel 100% that's the level of karma I'm talking about like if you're gonna push this situation these emotions on me it's only fair that you also experience them yourself to make you understand how shitty you made me feel at the time all of these exes and situationships that have come running back that you now aren't given the time of day don't you think they're now all getting calmer yeah i guess so like i kind of yeah what goes around comes around people. What goes around comes around. I feel like you kind of like,

I mean, I've definitely heard of different stories from like people that I've used to, like I used to speak to where karma has hit them like a ton of fucking bricks. And I'm like, oh, like, oh shit. Like you got karma. And that's why I actually really think it's so, I think what I love about karma is I genuinely do think

that what goes around comes around and you will get bad karma if you are a bad person. And I've never felt the need to go out of my way and... Say someone had cheated on me, for example. I would never feel like I need to go out of my way to therefore make them really jealous, do the same thing. I just feel like I need to go out of my way to therefore make them really jealous do the same thing I just feel like do you know what oh no yeah they're gonna get it without me having to do that like I'm not even gonna waste my energy on because at the end of the day it's actually gonna be more

energy for you than it is for them just constantly trying to make them feel a certain way it's gonna come back around they're gonna realize what they've lost and that's gonna be even worse i think karma only like really hit someone when i don't know how to explain it like kind of what you just said when you're completely out of their life you're not trying to push the karma on them you're not trying to like intentionally make anything bad happen like it will just happen yeah i feel like that is when the best sort of karma comes around i'm not gonna lie and i'm not even talking relationships i'm just talking people just in people just life in general you are such a bad person however you not got karma yet but i'm still holding on to the yet like i'm sat like patiently waiting for something to go horribly wrong although I mean I would never I talk about karma I feel like everyone like you said if someone

treats you badly they should get exactly how they made you feel I hope they feel it themselves I do like I'm yeah it makes it sound like a bitch but it's true like you deserve that I still wouldn't wish anything like so so awful on anyone well again I wouldn't because I just believe in karma and I'm like they'll get their own bad luck so I also believe in like what you put out into the universe is like what's gonna happen but like this kind of blends into like manifesting though because like there's this theory that you have to put some act into the universe but then you have to let the universe do it so if you're constantly thinking about it it won't happen because it's always on your mind you've not given it to wow you're not like yeah and i to be, ever since I learned about that theory, it weirdly has come true.

That like you think something, you know it's going to happen, but you then forget about it. And it's happened. Well, see, I am very big on manifestation, as you know, and putting things into the universe. But I've actually never heard that theory. Have you read The Secret? No, I haven't read The Secret. You should read it. I know that's all about law of attraction yeah maybe I should I've read another book called Manifest and I honestly

feel like I could have written this book myself it was so weird when I was reading this book hand on my heart I could have written it everything it said I didn't realize is what I've been doing my entire life like without even realizing it's everything I've been doing and it talks about manifestation and how the reason manifestation works is because for an example a lot of my goals in in life sorry I'm so gonna go off in a tandem here but I don't know how have we gone from karma to manifesting sorry about this but um you might find this interesting though but a lot of like my goals in life seem outrageous to certain people but the reason a lot of my goals have come true is because I believe in them so much but like not just believe in them say like you wanted a two million house two million pound house in la right for an example yeah saying you want that

and actually proper like envisioning it is two different things like unless you can fully see it you're never going to believe it so just you saying you want this two million pound house means nothing but if you can fully envision everything like from the color of the house to the windows to literally every single point of how you want this house to look like. That's the only way it's going to come true because you can see it so much. So everything I've always believed in

is actually very opposite to you in the sense of you have to think about it. You have to see it. But I like your theory. All the time. I've just always been the complete opposite and this book speaks a lot about that. How you've got to see every last little detail see okay i've maybe i should try that version then what if the version

i mean yeah it has always worked it had like ever since i watched the secret and read the book i've always tried that theory and i've kind of like let the universe do what it wants to do with that information and i think you can probably vouch for I mean I feel like it's a better um mindset to have in relationships for sure because I feel like that yes lets you can control what I think I'm talking about is more like goals are you talking about physical items as well physical items goals in life yeah um things that you can work on by yourself I guess maybe your theory works more for people people because it does drive you nuts like when i'm speaking to someone if i really like them they are on my mind 24 7 to the point where it's driving myself insane and sometimes i think just forget about it like just forget if i if i want someone to experience karma at the same time like I still want to be able to move on

and not think about them so like I will kind of like maybe karma and manifesting is all coming into one because if I want to have karma I'll be like oh they will have karma they have had karma like I'll speak about it as though it's already happened I'll never be like oh I hope they do like it's always a i know they will yeah do you know i mean it's like they will yeah it's i know they will like it's always the wording of how everything is and like i said literally everyone that i know of has pretty much experienced karma i think it's that same thing of like if you tell yourself something's gonna happen it will like how you're saying i know they're gonna get karma it's like if you tell yourself something's going to happen, it will. Like, how you're saying, I know they're going to get karma.

It's like if you see, God, this is where I get so deep. Like, we should, I could honestly talk about manifestation and all of this all day, every day. But it's like, if you tell yourself when you wake up, I'm going to have a shit day. You're going to have a shit day. If you tell yourself, I'm going to see a good in everything that happens today. Even if there's bad things that goes wrong and you find you, and you've told yourself you'm going to see a good in everything that happens today, even if there's bad things that goes wrong and you find you and you've told yourself you're going to find the good, you will find a good in every situation. Yeah.

And I think if you have that mindset. It is. It's all about mindset. But then, OK, on the other hand, why do then bad things happen to good people? I don't know. This is something I'm really trying to figure out. I'm not going to lie, because I feel like I've not had the best year

and I don't understand why. No. So like, is it karma from something that happened years ago that you don't remember? Like, is it karma at all? I don't know. Like, this is my thing, right? I believe in karma but

my brother having a heart attack to me that's not karma that's worse than karma that i think is a whole separate thing i don't think karma covers things like that i don't know because i guess i'm conflicting myself with everything i've said even people that I wish karma upon I don't ever wish something that bad so I don't think karma is something that's that bad I think that just life just deals you crap things and they deal yeah crap things to people that can can handle it I don't know I think that's why I like to see it because yeah 100% I don't actually know the answer to that I wish I did yeah but but then I feel like when I think of the word karma I only really ever think of it as in like either relationships with people or like friendships like karma is

yeah it's not like bad things that are happening in life it's like consequences of people's actions that's when I think about karma all the bad things that's happened in life it's like consequences of people's actions that's when i think about karma all the bad things that's happened to you in your life do you think it's made you a stronger and a better person yeah because i feel like it all shapes you as a person so like whether it's all like karma something i did like five years ago like I think it's in a weird way a lesson not saying that like I want bad karma because I don't but I feel like I always try to look at every situation that I'm put in and try and like pick a lesson out from it or learn something from it I believe that everything that is dealt to me is a lesson so that in the next situation

I can deal with it differently yeah and i can deal with it in a more mature way if that makes any no it does it does and i think that's the way that i try and see it because i don't think we're ever going to know the answer as to why does bad things happen to good people i don't think we'll ever know i don't think we will i just think the only way you have to see it as it's either a lesson or it's a blessing because it's going to make you stronger as a person I think that really 100% we're getting so deep here but I feel like that is actually the only way you can look at it 100% Prime Big Deal Days is coming October 8th and 9th with exclusive savings just for Prime members. Involuntary deal squeals can happen, like the deal on new running shoes squeal,

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with a different person and yeah I I'm not saying that I'll be like absolutely fucking buzzing that it's happened but I'll be more obviously not but like I will be happy that you've now understood the situation that you've put me through. And I hope that it makes you learn. Yeah. And I think also as well, like being the person that's watching this unfold, I think it makes you realize why you should be a good person. Because a hundred percent, you know, because if bad things didn't happen to bad people who like screwed us over in our lives,

if nothing bad ever happened to them, then why would we all start screwing each other over? Well, we wouldn't because we're good people. But like seeing the bad karma makes you realize even more what goes around comes around, you know? That genuinely is so true. That literal quote there, what goes around comes around. Whether it's in six months, whether it's in five comes around whether it's in six months whether it's in five years whether it's in 15 years whether when it happens you'll even know why it happened or like you'll be able to relate it back to some situation but either way I genuinely do

believe that karma is a thing and karma's a bitch karma is a. So do you think that it's then like a sign of maturity if you are able to just wish that person well and like almost like move on from the situation? Well, again, I think it goes back, if I'm talking from my personal experience, anyone that's screwed me over in my life every single relationship or that's ended badly i've never had anything like really really bad so for me i all these people that i'm over now i'm over them yes i wish them well in life like I like I said I honestly don't wish for like anything awful to happen to anyone like I I really really don't wish that to happen

I guess it's con it's it's contradicting what I'm saying about karma and how some people do deserve it I still think you can have a bit of karma and have some have some bad luck come back to you it doesn't mean that I wish for you to not be happy in life I just think it goes back to like what you said I wish if someone hurts me I would like them to experience how they've hurt me so they can know and understand what it felt like but I still wish them well in life yes I completely agree with you like in right in that moment when it's happened am I probably wishing you the happiest life probably not because at that moment I'm probably gonna hate you but as I it is true like as you get older as you mature as you experience more situations and you learn more lessons from different situations I do just get to a point

where like I think well I think I'm at that point if someone is gonna hurt me I'm kind of done trying to find excuses for the reason that you've hurt me trying to like you know I'm just like let's leave it like I wish you well like you're leaving my life for a reason and yeah you'll experience that karma when it hits you yeah because I think it's obviously like we've said it is maturing you know still wishing someone well in life but also I think to sit here and be like you you're immature if you don't wish any karma upon them or you're immature if you don't wish them to have the best life ever I think that's also stupid because then you're gonna let people walk all over you your entire life yeah which is and you

can't let people do that no you shouldn't let people do that because it the same thing will keep happening to you again and again and again and you're gonna keep getting hurt and screwed over so to sit here and to be like oh the second someone screws me over i'm mature i still wish them well in life like i think i wish people well in life but I know something I know some karma what happened to you but I still wish that I still wish for you know eventually you to have a nice happy life it's not like anything really awful but um yeah I definitely like you said in that moment you're not going to be like oh I wish you really well in life because you don't of course not because you're angry like yeah but I feel like this whole mindset does it does come with maturing and getting

older because I probably wouldn't be thinking that at 16 if someone's just fucked me over like I would not be thinking whereas now like now we're both like 23 we're getting a little bit older we've experienced a lot of situations I feel like we can deal with them in a lot more of a mature way and I think it probably is because we have that mindset of we don't need to do anything. Like no, we can just sit back, you know, we sit back, what is meant for them will be for them. And so yeah, I think that comes from maturity. We'll let you the universe work in the ways that it likes to work and we'll let karma hit you when it decides to hit you and you enjoy that that feels like a nice way to wrap up the episode on karma i am curious though

to you guys like who are listening we're going to leave a little q a box on spotify let us know do you believe in karma yeah i would i would love to know i feel like I feel like most people are gonna well you always think people are gonna agree with you don't you because you always feel like your own opinion is gonna be right but I would like to think that a lot of people believe in it and I hope they do because I think it gives you satisfaction when something bad happens to you when you get screwed over I think that's kind of what I don't really know if satisfaction is the right word, but it's what gives me, I guess, almost like hope. If something bad happens, I'm like, it's fine because something bad will happen to them in return. So, yeah, still be a good person.

Once you know someone's experienced that karma, you're going to believe in karma. It's like all these people were saying they believe in it have definitely experienced some sort of karma situations. If you have, please let us know. I would be very intrigued to read your answers but other than that thank you so much for listening make sure to go and check out tuesday's episode as well where we speak all about x is resurfacing it was a good one thank you so much for watching bye bye guys and don't forget you can join us every tuesday and thursday for a brand new episode