Sex, Lies & DM Slides - 3: “If he wanted to, he would” with Danica Taylor

Episode Date: October 24, 2022

Gather around the fire pit immediately! We pulled Love Island contestant Danica Taylor for a chat where she spills the tea on why she called it quits with Jamie Allen since leaving the villa and behin...d the scenes secrets while filming the hit reality series. Plus we dive into major red, green and pink flags when it comes to dating men in 2022. And don’t forget to slide into our DM’s because we are LOVING your messages. Sex, Lies and DM Slides is a Spotify Original podcast. Produced by Spirit Studios with Raymond Tannor and Kate Willis as the producers and from Spotify the Executive Producer is Rhyanna Coleman. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, I am Anastasia Kingsnorth. And I'm Saffron Barker and welcome to Sex, Lies and DM Slides. So each week we invite a fabulous guest onto the show to delve into their DMs, to spill the tea, to discuss sex, dating experiences, and all of the topics in between. The good, the bad, and definitely the ugly. Today we definitely did that. I feel like we covered all the good, bad, and the ugly.
Starting point is 00:00:26 And no DM is off limits and of course no topic is off limits so today we were actually joined by danika from love island who can i just say was like by far one of my favorite love islanders this year an absolute angel we spoke girl boss villa secrets red flags oh there's so many things i found out about the show that i just never knew before. McDonald's on a Saturday. McDonald's on a Saturday? Yes, please. Of course, we also invite you guys to slide into our DMs for stories of your own.
Starting point is 00:00:53 So send us the craziest DM you've ever received or are funny about your own sexual dating life that you guys have wanted to share. But without further ado, let's get straight into this episode. Let's do it. Let's go the all-new fan duel sportsbook and casino is bringing you more action than ever want more ways to follow your faves check out our new player prop tracking with real-time notifications or have out more ways to customize your casino page with our new favorite and
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Starting point is 00:01:44 With deals this good, everyone wants to be a student join for just 4.99 a month savings make very eligibility and member terms apply okay so the first question we'd like to ask on the podcast is what is your relationship status oh god really really got me there already in the deep end it's just we do like to jump straight into it yeah because we're so single so it's quite nice we're very single right now relationship living through them or relating to them basically yeah yeah i mean i'm really sorry to disappoint but count me in with the single gang yeah i mean yeah cheers to that we have glasses go on love island don't find love make it make sense but yeah relationship okay so how was your love island experience
Starting point is 00:02:32 do you know what i loved it i feel like i'm the only one that was just like there for a good time like bumbling along i loved everything like i feel like i could see that though like in the episode you just loved being there honestly everyone else was like I'm sick and it's getting me out and I was like whoo I just loved it um but yeah I feel like obviously there was hard times but like I just loved being there so even when it was a little bit shitty I was just like who cares I'm on love island I feel like you just have such a positive mindset though like I think you always saw the positive in every situation yeah definitely like because I feel like you went through a lot like and you still powered through like the boss guy that you are yeah well you've just got that like I said I feel like I was on love island so I thought right I don't know you guys like if you don't want me you're lost so yeah I'm just
Starting point is 00:03:19 here for a good time babe that is exactly their loss so what was your like audition process like how long was it so I was in the process till I actually flew out was six months so January yeah so January I applied but basically my management scouted me but I had to apply as normal they basically just put my name forward for them to actually search for my application and then that was it really just like every like week and a half it'd be like oh my god next stage medical meeting the execs and I was like okay looks like I'm doing it I'm going and then I got the call April late April and it was like yeah like we've been casted and I think at the time they were unsure if I was going to be an original or a bombshell but I always knew I was going to be a bombshell anyway like how when do
Starting point is 00:04:04 you find out like you're going to be a bombshell like do you just go into kind of like the holding villa and then find out then or well I think for me I always knew I was going to be in at the beginning okay so they were like we might do a press day in London or it might be out in Mallorca so we'll let you know and basically if you do the press day in London you're most likely going to be an OG or if it's in Mallorca that's when you're like okay so when the day came for it to be in London and I hadn't been told I was like yeah your gal's a bombshell but I want it to be a bombshell did you yeah that would terrify me I don't think I'd way rather be an OG I think maybe maybe I don't know maybe looking back at it I could be like oh you know hindsight maybe I should have been an OG but I feel like my personality like there's not really a lot of people that would have been able
Starting point is 00:04:48 to just go in and be like you know what fuck this like yeah and doing the bombshell walk in as well i mean that is that is such a moment but i think it's just it would be so tough because most people are already in relationships honestly and then like you become the villain because you have to break that up and i think i would struggle with that well for me i was like look it was like 11 days and i thought easy absolutely that's not far at all this is what i mean i was like i like even like jemma and luca they'd only just got together because obviously they weren't together from the beginning so i was like yeah no problem this is easy and then literally i go in and it's like no no no no no and i was like do you know what fuck this shit how did you find that it was hard
Starting point is 00:05:27 and like i think you know i've already spoken like i don't think luca's reaction was you know necessary but we've moved past that now it's all good but at the time i was like are you joking are you joking like what the hell like get the fuck away from me like why have i just like wasted my one opportunity to choose and i've chosen you and you've acted like that but it's fine because you know I had my journey I feel like I did it for the gals you know yeah yeah exactly yeah it's so funny actually because we met how long ago like a few weeks ago at an event yeah and it's so funny because you were saying to me I always knew that I was going to go on the show and I'm somebody who really believes in like manifesting and we was like just on the same page of manifesting yeah you was like no babe I always
Starting point is 00:06:09 knew I was going to be on Love Island and I love that yeah no I did honestly I feel like it's weird because people are like what and I'm like I just knew like you just knew it was meant for you I meant I remember being 15 and I remember being like I'm gonna go on there one day like I'm gonna go on Love Island and like I just you just don't know like you know when you just got that gut feeling like i was like as soon as i got the phone call like oh we've seen your application we'd love to chat to you i was like i'm going on i knew it i love that there was no way you had time to prep babe yeah i was like yep well don't worry about me because i'm gonna be busy all summer so okay i just knew i have to ask is it true that you get
Starting point is 00:06:43 mcdonald's on a saturday in the villa i knew it i'm sorry i love mcdonald's i've seen this like secret everywhere babes honestly i'm a mcdonald's fan like you so trust me like and then like they'd come around and give you like menus and blah just circle whatever really it was only on a saturday you get a mcdonald's pretty much i mean it could be any takeaway but like the general consensus was let's all get mcdonald's i feel like because you don't know like the time and stuff on that show you'd never know what day of the week it is so yeah did you know what day of the week well we like i kept track and then i remember there was like a two week period where i just literally was like i ain't got a fucking scooby oh i've got no clue
Starting point is 00:07:17 until it's a saturday and mcdonald's right or like we'd like try and get it out of like the villa producers and we'd be like oh yeah like my mom's birthday is coming up soon like what what day oh wait so they just wouldn't tell you the day no they were so funny like they'd be like oh you know it's it's the 29th and it'd be like the 18th and i'm like well it's not the 29th i don't i don't understand the logic behind that i did a tv show and they wouldn't let me know the time and i just didn't get it that was the same as me way it would help me honestly you stressed me out i think i know why i was gonna lose my mind i think i know why they do it it's because if you know the time
Starting point is 00:07:54 say if like you're really tired and you know that it's like eight o'clock you're gonna want to go to bed whereas if you actually don't know the time it kind of helps your like mentality to carry on filming i can't explain it but it's all like a mental thing i think it's also like they want you to lose sense of reality they want you to be like this bubble of like oh my god like no yeah no clue what's going on but you could kind of guess anyway like it was always about half 10 11 o'clock by the time we actually went out for the evening i've heard that that's i think that's late yeah and like some days honestly like imagine everyone else
Starting point is 00:08:25 is in their couples. I'm sat there like, right, here we go. Another night, another night in the villa. What am I doing today? So you'd see like Damien
Starting point is 00:08:32 and India canoodling. You'd see Gemma and Luca like all over each other. And I'd be like, hmm, this one glass of wine is really serving its purpose. Babe,
Starting point is 00:08:43 you really just got a long holiday. literally. Honestly, in total, I did nine nine weeks like with the quarantine and all that i did nine weeks i didn't realize like how long you was there for i know that is crazy literally crazy i did i think though you were like the longest single girl to ever like be on that show and queenship no you held your own honestly when i say i've made love island history even adam collard i overtook adam collard in how many couples i had in there that now that's how many couples did you have six six every recoupling i recoupled with someone else i did not no no no you tested the waters i love this for you do you know what actually like when i think about it yeah it's
Starting point is 00:09:19 a bit shit but i got to literally couple up with everybody i wanted like my top three before going in was luca jackson jay done it couple up with all I wanted. Like my top three before going in was Luca, Jackson, Jay. Done it. Coupled up with all three of them. Been there, done that. Been there,
Starting point is 00:09:29 done that, got a t-shirt. I mean, yeah, nothing romantic. But you still done it. But I still did it. My top three were them and I managed to get coupled up with them.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Then obviously you've got Josh and then Billy and then Jamie. So yeah, I had a great hot girl summer job. You had the Love island experience 100% you really like you lived that I think how boring imagine like no offense like getting with one person from like boring yeah do you mean like great I'm so happy you have like that love story like you do you like a bit boring good for you but yeah like not bitter at all but like boring I was gonna say was there anybody else in the villa that you would have wanted to couple up with no i think i about did you did it yeah you did it with the six yeah six something
Starting point is 00:10:09 yeah you know so like since you've been out have you missed it or is it quite nice going back to reality no get me back there now like honestly like everyone else when it was their time to go they're like i was ready to go and i was like what like i remember when they were like danika you've been dumped and i remember looking around thinking i'm not going i'm i'm not going that's so that's so like amazing that you still felt like that and you still like had you did have such a hard time compared to everybody else in the villa and you still felt like that i love that because it is a once in a lifetime experience yeah well I mean it's just that's what I mean you've just got to take it for what it is run with it and that's exactly what I did so good for you yeah absolutely roll on next year they want to do another Adam
Starting point is 00:10:55 Collard so I'm new oh my god I'd be so down for that I would love that imagine I just come back in okay so let's talk life outside the villa yes how was it like the first day you came back to the uk what did you do well i flew back the day of the finale oh really yeah because you have to stay there don't you yeah so i had to stay there because i did after some live from the villa so me page adam and jamie we well me and jamie literally did a whole week holiday in the quarantine villa afterwards like we got dumped on the monday prior and then flew back what do you do in the quarantine villa after well obviously because we were in that kind of like lovey-dovey like getting to know each other stage it was great no cameras no mics like we would just get to know each other
Starting point is 00:11:35 okay just chilling really yeah eating watching tv just doing like just like a holiday yeah it was literally like a week holiday um did a couple of bits of filming as well which was good but yeah and then it was like flew back had the finale and then it was like after that i like went home and then came back did my first okay shoot and it was just like literally since then i've just like just been on like non-stop yeah like a hamster like a treadmill like a little running meal i'm like like, literally just like. How was that shoot? Because you were the first like Love Island couple to come out of the villa
Starting point is 00:12:08 and do a magazine shoot. I know. It was insane to be fair and like I loved it and it's obviously a shame now that things haven't quite worked out. But kind of like I look, I look back at the shoot
Starting point is 00:12:18 and I'm like, oh, but things happen for a reason. Do you know what I mean? If we were meant to be, we were meant to be. Yeah. And also you were just going
Starting point is 00:12:23 with the moment. Like, do you know what I mean? And obviously, why would you not do be yeah and also you was just going with the moment like do you know what i mean and obviously why would you not do that take that opportunity the thing is is like people are always giving force anyway i'm like no genuinely like we both really liked each other like it yeah i genuinely was like oh my god like he's gonna be my boyfriend like i genuinely i honestly thought so why did it end then if it was like that it's just like it just sort of fizzled out like the effort just wasn't quite there i mean i'm obviously going to be a little bit biased to myself i thought i put in more effort than he did he doesn't think that i did but i feel like out of the two it was me that gave more effort
Starting point is 00:12:53 and like i'm also like no disrespect but i was the one that was generally like busy busy with like doing work whereas he was in the process of like transitioning from football team to football team so it's just kind of like yeah it just fizzled out really and i just think if it was meant to be it would be so everything happens for a reason exactly and then obviously i've just i've gone off and done my own thing being single he's obviously clearly gone off and done his own thing and it's just like well i feel like if you like someone that much you'd make it work so yeah yeah clearly it's not always would if you wanted to you would right exactly if he wanted to he would
Starting point is 00:13:25 and that's what i kept saying to him like not like i'm baiting him out but that's what i kept saying i said if you like me enough you'd yeah you would sort things out yeah definitely and he was like no no and i thought okay cool do you know what i mean yeah that's not what there's no bad blood and the thing is as well because i feel like you obviously like you said you was with you got a couple of so many different guys in there i feel like by the end babe you know exactly what you want yeah right so you're not putting up with anything else literally honestly that's what i said to myself i'm not being funny i went if you're not going to put the effort in i'm done i've had literally six weeks of people back and forth
Starting point is 00:13:58 no honestly next onto the next literally boring like off off your pop okay then so since jamie have you rekindled with any of the other islanders i saw you made a tiktok with josh yeah uh me and josh just always got along do you know what i mean and obviously like yeah like he's a good looking guy obviously there's definitely like an attraction there but i just i'm just doing me i love that yeah do you feel like you're gonna avoid being with anyone from the show now? Or are you just keeping it open? I would, I will say I'll keep it open, but I just feel like anyone that I would potentially have something with,
Starting point is 00:14:35 like they're probably just doing their own thing too. Do you know what I mean? It takes two to tango. I can maybe be thinking one thing, but it's got to be reciprocated between two. Yeah. Agreed. But I'm just maybe stay away from that now now just to start to get my heart broken again i feel like
Starting point is 00:14:49 all these boys have already broken my heart from the show so i'm like do you still speak to a lot of people from the villa you're still friends with a lot of them yeah like i feel like i speak i don't know who do i speak to no i do speak to summer sometimes oh antigone page obviously because i'm doing like a little filming situation with a couple of them so i am like i am in contact with a lot of them obviously i speak to josh sometimes like i'll see billy i've got a pa coming up with billy so me and billy need to be you know palling it up okay so was there any tea or like drama that was in the villa
Starting point is 00:15:27 that was actually cut from the show there was a situation with me in india where we got told off and got sent to the beach hut because it was same-sex beds right and basically i said something about the outside world like because she was not sure about the deadji situation and dami obviously in casa and i just said babe forget about the public i went they love you i went they love you i don't know why i thought that was something that i shouldn't have said out loud i think that's quite a normal thing yeah but you do get told off any talk about anything about the outside are you no opinions nothing like they're like yeah so i we were in bed together because it was same-sex beds and i literally like put my finger on the mic and then
Starting point is 00:16:04 india shoved it in the bed and literally the voice of god was like india and danika to the beach hut now literally like two naughty school girls you hid the mic when you told her this yeah so i like put my finger over it and then india shoved it into the bed because there's a little mic in the bed isn't there yeah and i was like oh for god's sake and literally we like both like ran downstairs of casa obviously because you went to casa and what didn't i went to them yeah so like ran downstairs and we got into the beach and i i just couldn't stop laughing and then she was like girls what were you talking about and i was like oh because they saw could they not hear they didn't hear i don't
Starting point is 00:16:38 think they were really listening like i think it was more of like a surveillance kind of thing and then once we pushed it in they were like right what are you talking about yeah because they're obviously gonna know that you shouldn't and then they were like right what are you talking about yeah because they're obviously gonna know that you shouldn't and then they were like right well we are gonna have to give this back to mike literally like the big boy producer and i was like oh my god i'm getting these on the show but it's so little did you know babe she was still there a long time nine weeks literally those producers they have my back let me say that they just have my back okay before we
Starting point is 00:17:05 move on from the love island stuff yeah how many same-sex bed nights did you have it was usually like once a week so when we'd have the mcdonald's if it was on saturday they didn't air this no but so why did they do this so it was basically just to give like production a break i think and also just to give us like a little bit of a break maybe like sort out our wardrobes i don't know like repaint our toenails or something like that just having a bit of a chill yeah i never knew they did that i literally never heard that well we'd have to we'd get up in the morning some days we wouldn't even know it was going to happen or not it wasn't always on a saturday but it was usually on a saturday but after casa because it was you never know how many people are going to
Starting point is 00:17:38 be brought back so it was all a bit up in the air okay moving on from love island this week we are talking red green and pink flags okay not gonna lie i didn't really know what a pink flag was yeah i don't know what a pink flag is i don't know is it even necessary what is it i've got the definition okay so it's a potential warning sign the budding romance could be in trouble or that you don't feel comfortable in taking the relationship to the next level so you have no pictures together or there are no pictures or mention of you on social media or sporadic ghosting and not big on pda so basically i just think it's a bit weird i just yeah i'm not sure i sounds like a bit of a red flag sounds like a bit of a sneaky link situation yeah yeah if it's a pink flag i would assume it's a red flag put it that way it's
Starting point is 00:18:21 like the before a red flag it's not like a definite red it's more like a it's on its way it's let me just like am i colorblind i'm not sure yeah a little bit okay so what are your red flags in a relationship somebody who doesn't put the time in clearly yeah yeah yeah effort 100 and also like flakiness like if we've got plans like just stick to the plans yeah stick to or if you're not sure just be like look i'm not sure let's not go ahead with this don't be like yeah yeah yeah i can do this i can do that and then not fall like don't fall through with it yeah i hate that i'm like just just tell me like i'm chill like just be honest and be like oh well i've got this i've got that might not happen just just tell me that a bit of a red flag because i think well
Starting point is 00:19:07 what if i don't know like if we booked a holiday would you even turn up on like would you even turn up what if i'm at the airport on my own like would you actually turn up do you mean like all these things i think of i also think if you're thinking that it's already a red flag well yeah i'm like if i had to debate whether you'd even turn up to the airport if we booked a holiday, then maybe I should just... Maybe you should already cut ties with that one, babe. Yeah, absolutely. I don't want to be that girl, but I feel like sometimes girl best friends... Like, when I say girl best friends, I mean as in like...
Starting point is 00:19:37 I don't mean... Okay, this is hard because I feel like in some circumstances I'm like, oh, absolutely fine. But then I know there's a lot of guys that have slept with their girl best friends yeah and I'm a bit like I just have to say the guy I was seeing cheated on me with his best friend this is the thing he slept with his best friend I just think when you're with somebody like for me like my ex was my best friend like I didn't need to talk to any of the guys he was my best friend I'm not interested in having any of the male best friend because that my boyfriend was an absolutely fair play if you've got a male best friend female best
Starting point is 00:20:08 friend opposite sex best friend cool but i need to i don't know i feel like you could pick up a vibe anyway and i feel like nine times out of ten the vibe i always get is see like i completely get that but it's hard for me to like fully understand because every relationship i've been in they've never had a girl best friend but i can totally see like there would also just be so much jealousy like it's horrible to say but like 100 i mean i i've never experienced it in a relationship but when i've been speaking to guys like the way that maybe like i've just seen their vibe with other girls they're not oh yeah like she's like my mate like and i'm like is she i'm like well i'm just skedaddle then
Starting point is 00:20:46 you don't need any other girl best friends if i'm there do you know what i mean yeah but that's just my opinion some people will massively disagree and that's fine but in two years time when it comes out you've been shagging then that's exactly why it's a red flag to me yeah yeah yeah i get that yeah i completely agree i mean obviously yeah the guy i was seeing slept with his best friend yeah so i feel like it's i can't believe it's his best friend i actually didn't even know that yeah i don't know we're finding out so much about each other i thought like i would already know this yeah i told you the story but i guess i just left out the part yeah yeah there was his best friend the main part i guess but yeah i mean i'm always a bit wary of the best friend now what is your like
Starting point is 00:21:25 biggest red flags that would be definitely one of them now i guess i think we spoke about this already like if they speak in a really bad way about their ex yeah i hate that because i think well how are you gonna speak about me like if you're already like together or you've been or you've seen each other for ages because obviously if they do hate their ex then that is something that wouldn't actually come up i think it's like when it's more like a first date and they're telling you how much they hate their ex yeah that's it also depends on the tone of the boy you're still in love yeah yeah yeah if you're talking about your ex on the first date anyway i don't think you should really do that no no definitely no red flag that is red flag not well okay to be fair fuck it you won't mind but
Starting point is 00:22:06 in the villa the only person i didn't have a one-on-one conversation with is george and partly just the way it worked like production i also knew i was always going to bring josh back so after like day one i was like there's not really much point we talking to any of you boys because i know i'm going to bring josh back so like no offense um but i remember like everyone else was like all he talks about is his ex and i thought do you know what i'm just not doing it really i've had two weeks in it of like friendships and people rejecting me he was a bombshell so he was cassie yeah like cass i was not a bombshell is it yeah cassie yeah cassie yeah yeah he came in there and he's talking about his
Starting point is 00:22:40 ex yeah and i feel like i don't know maybe it was just in his eyes like a conversation starter like and i get it because if you get onto the subject like sometimes it's easy just to sort of run away with it but it's like you've got to remember where you are like you're on a dating show yeah like we don't i don't want to hear about your ex yeah i mean and by that point you definitely did not want to hear about his ex like no you knew what you wanted literally so i was just like thankfully i missed that that conversation do you know what i mean because everyone else like was like oh my god all he talks about his ex i thought and i'd be thinking as well they're talking about their ex and they've just come in
Starting point is 00:23:11 here that they've literally just broken up yeah again it just seems like you're bothered doesn't it yeah and it's just just just no okay so pink flags that we don't really understand that's on the urge of red flags okay do we have pink flags well in the definition it says like not posting on social media like if you to be fair i do actually think that's well i'm it's hard in our job because i like if i got with someone now oh yeah i'd want to keep it private at first because we don't get a lot of privacy but i think like if i was with somebody for like the longest time and they were like constantly like not sharing me and I'm sharing them or whatever yeah that to me I mean to be honest babes that's more of a red flag yeah I mean I want my relationship to be private but not secret yeah exactly that's the difference I love the whole like teasing the whole relationship like
Starting point is 00:23:58 I think that's fun but if I was not anywhere on their socials after like two years of being with them I think okay you're hiding me now this is weird i feel like a pink flag in that respect for me would be like say if we're like chatting like we've been spending time together we've kind of been doing like low-key dates and then like we go to like an event or something i see you out and you just you just ignore and it's like right oh oh that is oh no i think that's virgin well okay that is a red flag but okay so maybe not maybe we just can't define the guy who's dating ignored me i'd be like okay maybe not ignore but you know when it's a little bit like like you talk but it's a little bit like it's different in front of their mates yeah it's a bit like a yeah yeah yeah cool like oh yeah like let's see
Starting point is 00:24:38 you around sort of thing yeah and it's kind of like oh like i'll come chat to you in a bit and it's like we were literally like avenando's last night babes like what are you doing yeah do you know i mean i think that's a pink flag yeah not ignore if it was ignored that would be a ball yeah i'd be like if you were me i am now ignoring you literally i'd be coming up to him like you want to ignore me huh yeah yeah that's actually a good example of a pink flag just yeah people that just act a bit different in public a little bit like yeah okay so like on that then what about the no pda like are you guys like pda girls oh i just think it depends it depends if i'm fancy enough to be honest like yeah i'm not against it i'm not courtney kardashian i'm not courtney i think that's extreme that that's too much it's a big crazy
Starting point is 00:25:25 it's like it actually is 24 7 with them like 20 i've seen it in the flesh and it's 24 yeah we saw it in the flesh we saw it we saw it in the flesh but like but i like oh god i'm so cringe i like a little bit of pda just not to that extent yeah of course i think it's nice like touch me do you know i mean if i'm your girl like yeah and i do think like if I went out of my boyfriend and he doesn't want to hold my hand or whatever or kiss me I would think that's fucking weird me too 100% I love a little like holding that fully pink flag if I was like out of my boyfriend or whatever and he doesn't want to hold my hand or like kiss me I that is fully a pink flag to me yeah because it's like like I get you might like be awkward but like come on like I know we're having this together
Starting point is 00:26:04 yeah people have different love languages and I get that yeah but like for me i need a bit of that little like yeah 100 public affection yeah even if it's just like i don't know like we're stood in a group and like i don't know like you just put your arm out yeah stand behind me put your hands like on my hips or something like just just a little i like it when they hug you from behind yeah i love that well love that well maybe one day literally literally all of us like yeah i love it when he does that yeah i've not had that for a while okay green flags then i think that's a green flag yeah fully green that's a very nice green flag so basically i think we've all summed up we all like PDA here yeah we do I think most girls do let's be honest
Starting point is 00:26:45 it just makes you feel like loved yeah and secure in the relationship I think yeah like 100% like you know like just going back to like say for example like you're out in a situation or environment where there's other people there you don't have to be on me 24 7 but like like you said like yeah give me a little touch a little bit of affection yeah i don't mean like down my throat i just mean you know and then you can go off and chat to whoever what obviously within reason but like do you know what i mean like you can just like come back in like check in on me and then yeah yeah a little kiss it's like within reason i'm watching and if there's girls and they're your friends red flag what are you doing no honestly okay other green flags i'm trying to think i would say
Starting point is 00:27:27 somebody that like like you said 100 sticks plans yeah literally i was gonna say guys that make make plans yeah guys like when they expect you to make plans all the time no sorry i just give me myself in that situation energy how's me energy how nice is it when they say like meet me at this time this place that's the dream oh my god no but you know what i have found i'm not gonna lie guy i've i've had guys that i like that and then they still flake and i'm like right where's the energy going really yeah i'm like got all this like bd energy do you know what i mean and it's like yeah yeah like we're gonna do this we're gonna do that and then it's just like okay maybe it's just me maybe i'm the problem
Starting point is 00:28:05 no i'm joking never you are absolutely not the problem no but you don't need to think like what maybe i'm just meeting the wrong guys you know i mean you know what you should try hinge i say that to everyone i should honestly be in a baby keeps telling me i need to get on here i was on hinge right but i need to first of all if i go back on i need to set my location to like london because i don't mean to be rude but the guys in the midlands were not cutting it right okay they just i feel you i'm from east midlands yeah never just sorry but no not for me no thank you but no i do need to maybe get back on hinge okay so let's move on to sexual rejection. Have you ever asked a guy for his number? No.
Starting point is 00:28:48 No, I haven't. I was going to say, I'm not even surprised by that. I could tell that you just haven't. No. I like it when the guy asks me for my number. Yeah. See, I think I might have, though. Well, I think I might have said, like, if I'm talking to somebody on an app app like raya for an example been like
Starting point is 00:29:05 should we like message yeah yeah i've done that yeah but i've done that oh in person well i guess yeah in person yeah no no i don't think i have but like for me like i feel like now it's almost got like a bad stigma because every time someone's like oh can i have your number like it's like no respect but it's usually like people that you just know it's going to cause you trouble and i'm just like no yeah or it's like then can i be snap and i'm like if they ask them why snap that story do you know yeah sorry i'm not trying to violate you but i'm just being honest i'm just being honest i mean i feel like even me like i'm 21 and sometimes i'm a bit like why am i on snapchat yeah i only have it really for the memories and sometimes to be fair like it is you know what the other day my friends were on snapchat yeah even though i'm just i'm not a
Starting point is 00:29:50 snapchat girl and actually i did redownload it just to look at my memories but then i deleted it because i just i can't associate myself with it i have i've got a couple of group chats on there but like i wouldn't talk to a guy on snapchat oh you're looking at me like you don't even want to be my friend anymore no i would see where you're going with it i mean is that all right are we still friends i mean i'm not gonna lie i still i do still sometimes have conversations on but do you post on it well i only have to post on it though i do right sorry everybody that maybe had me on snapchat before but when i say I have blocked everybody from my story. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:30:27 So it's almost like a close friend situation. Yeah, but I obviously, once you add someone to a private, like they know, so I don't want people to think they're that special that I've added them. It says leave private story. Yeah. On Snapchat now. So you know if someone's taking you off.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. So instead what I do is I've just blocked everybody that I don't really want to see my stuff. Like to me, the only reason I use Snapchat is because it's like it's my like most like private platform like if i want to post a selfie where i don't really want to put it on my instagram like i just put it on there don't know why just get it out there yeah but do you know i mean it's just
Starting point is 00:30:56 i feel like that's fine it's i think for me it's i just don't like you said if they're 27 28 and i got snapchat i just think it's a little bit weird i think like especially if they're like add me on snap yeah if a guy in a club was like yeah no no do you know what i mean i think i think it's different i even think it's different if you're in a relationship and then you know you have each other on snapchat but that's different yeah i don't know if someone's saying to me add me on snap i'm out of there when they get the snap code up they're like let me scan it no i'm like no instant ick leave me alone that is a massive ick of mine actually that i've just realized no oh no i can't you're really bringing me After decades of shaky hands caused by debilitating tremors,
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Starting point is 00:32:53 Okay, talking to social media. We do a part of the podcast where we get to read people's DMs. Okay. Can we have your phone and can we see some DMs? Yes, you can. Or messages that you get sent from people. Okay, let me get it up. Do you want me to read or do you want to look through them it is up to you either either or okay right so i've got one here i doubt you'll know it i think he's like a footballer from some sort he's not that big but he's got blue tics so yeah you message me them boys don't deserve you
Starting point is 00:33:22 in that villa out in the real world you're everyone's type 10 out of 10 for me and he put are you available to chat and then he put how are you are these different messages different messages yeah are you okay i mean the first one's kind of cute yeah that's cute i feel like when you got out was it nuts for you because i feel like every guy would have been in there like you didn't deserve that because everyone felt like that like even us girls i was like she does not deserve this at all honestly also you're like fucking stunning i know and your personality as well babe she have it all i just don't get it basically i don't honestly i still people ask me and i'm like i don't know i could honestly those boys were great honestly i'm sorry they were crazy they were crazy i agree
Starting point is 00:34:05 maybe it's because i'm a bit crazy um so yeah that's that one you know so i have had quite a few of them you know people being like oh i'd treat you better like people i'll treat you better than jamie i'm like right oh well yeah you're showing jamie yeah yeah i was actually i did show you know just to show him you know know, I'm not properly like that. Just so he knows what he's got. Yeah, obviously wasn't enough to keep him around, like, but, you know. I'm joking. Do you guys still talk?
Starting point is 00:34:34 No. Are you still friends? No. Oh, you just don't talk at all? I think we'll always be cool, do you know what I mean? Yeah. But, like. You don't, like, hate each other.
Starting point is 00:34:40 No. You're just not. I think when we first sort of established we weren't going to carry on really, like, was a bit like for a couple of days i was like you know maybe we'll sort it out and like like no disrespect but like now i'm like you had your chance like yeah good for you and he's probably don't go wrong he probably don't want another chance or like we that's fine but like for me like you know what it's like after like a breakup or like a situation ends you're kind of like oh like you kind of but now i'm just like you're not you weren't for me so yeah and i feel like as well you must have had i know if i was you i would have had my guard up so much towards the end of like the whole experience
Starting point is 00:35:13 because of everything you went through and i would constantly be thinking to myself like are they just getting with me now because they've seen what's happening on the outside world like do you think that his feelings were actually genuine or do you think do you know i mean obviously he must have fancied you and liked you how can you not yeah so i feel like yes they were genuine but then also like with situations that happened like i said i feel like if you really liked me as much as you were saying you did then i do feel like yeah if there's a will there's a way yeah and if you wanted to you would yeah so it's like i don't yeah you liked me but i'm not you know i mean you weren't thinking of why he was like let's be honest like you were yeah so yeah say no more about that but yeah okay so going back to
Starting point is 00:36:00 okay so this is not really one i can read out but this is a situation i can talk about okay so this guy he actually now has a girlfriend right since since lovante's not she managed to get a girlfriend but he messaged he we used to message he's managed to get don't ask me how because the dms he used to send me were like like honestly sometimes i think like these guys actually genuinely just like publicly just like outright violate you like they just like they're not even nice about it they publicly just like outright violate you like they just like they're not even nice about it they're just like oh like you're sexy so this wasn't a guy that you used to like actually speak to okay well we okay so this is maybe i should have seen the red flags but yeah i kind of just like yeah yeah whatever but he'd be like what you doing today and like
Starting point is 00:36:40 i'm not a lot and then he was like oh like family's away at a wedding so it's just me and the dog today and i just put like oh is that a subtle invite he was like wasn't really subtle so then like it's like we made like a bit of a plan okay he was like when's best for you um saying that he's just got back from a client blah blah like never happened like i remember i'm not even joking i remember last i put i mean i can come like whenever like you're you're the one that's busy so like let me know. Because we'd been talking like on and off for like just a couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And it was like, yeah, let's meet up. Let's do something. He literally just aired it. Just literally. And it never happened. And then the day I was going to, well, the day I flew out to Love Island, I was in the airport
Starting point is 00:37:17 and I think he messaged me about my story. Obviously I was in some sort of lingerie, which that is just, this is red flag. If they're only replying to that, just this is red flag yeah if they're only replying to that that's a red flag massively they want one thing oh yeah yeah one thing and one thing only and i can't remember what he said but he's deleted it now because obviously like i aired it obviously got onto the show and then i came out and he's now got a girlfriend and i'm like oh cool how has that happened i don't know because she's stood in as well like and she's she's like
Starting point is 00:37:43 she's like a low-key influencer and i'm like how did you meet her no no no I mean like oh was you thinking did you actually meet her yeah well yeah what did you yeah because you didn't meet me so clearly she clearly she made it past you know just the lingerie sexy vibe stage but that was a red flag for him flaking yeah absolutely it's like why would you say let's make plans and he made the plans himself technically he literally said but i've had that a lot you know really yeah yeah i've had that quite a lot so i'm a very like um you give me that like the impression that you're the same like a very like forward person in the sense of like say it how it is but also i i'll just voice note like okay yeah when are we doing it sort of thing like i'll just do it just yeah you know why not same so for people to like flake on me i'm
Starting point is 00:38:29 like i can't be asked for that just be honest like i was saying earlier like if we make plans and you can't do them just say oh like this it's going to be a bit difficult let's just cancel it because for me i'm there and i'm like if you say a plan and i want to do it it's that i'm doing it you know what i mean so yeah like that really, really last minute, I'd have, yeah, of course, no problem. Okay,
Starting point is 00:38:47 why not? Yeah. And then for you to just be like, just air it, I'm like, it just doesn't make sense. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:53 But it's also, I swear these guys are lying to themselves. Like, surely it's a waste of his time going along with it for that long. Honestly. And then just airing it. I love to play games though. And I don't understand
Starting point is 00:39:01 what enjoyment they get out of it. I just don't think we ever will, girls. No. I don't think we ever will. We will never get it. We'll get it we'll never get it but then like for me like it was just like the biggest haha fuck you what i ended up by going on the show because i was like you'll you'll literally never ever get the chance to speak to me ever again yeah yeah ever so you can have your girlfriend yeah she's stunning but she ain't me that is possibly the best fuck you you
Starting point is 00:39:20 can ever get so literally i was at the airport i thought just you wait yeah but yeah it's like even actually i have had one since coming out as well same thing when i'm because this guy lives away he's like when i'm back we'll do dinner i got you and i didn't reply for ages to be fair like my bad but i was like oh okay i'm a bit i did like i said I lost his message. I didn't, I just didn't reply. Babes, how do you lose someone's message? I've got so many DMs, your message is lost. I've never, I've never ever
Starting point is 00:39:51 said that or heard that. In all fairness though, like if it's not in like the first like bit when you swipe, I don't even scroll like. The message is lost. So the message,
Starting point is 00:40:01 in my opinion, is lost. I love that. But yeah, it's so funny and like I just was like oh like sorry i lost your message i feel a bit if the offer still stands because i thought you know what you're single now do you know i mean you're in your prime time you've just come out of love island oh so this is
Starting point is 00:40:13 when you've come out of yeah yeah okay this guy he's good looking guy i actually met him yesterday okay yeah which is funny because it's like he said all of this had all this like energy like i'm gonna take that i've got you and then it's just like nothing silence and then like yesterday he was like he was like hi gave me a kiss on the hand i thought i went you get away from me i've had enough and this is why i can't be asked for guys like literally i'm like you know what i'm gonna turn into the fuck boy do you know what i mean it's about time i started breaking hearts because i'm not dealing with this anymore count me out now you guys were expecting me to have like the tea of everyone being like and i'm like yeah this is just me just getting literally
Starting point is 00:40:52 just the same same stuff you know out of the villa um but i think i'm just like because i'm so forward i think a lot of guys they are intimidated by it yeah i was gonna say it probably actually is that they are intimidated they're just like right i wasn't expecting you just to be like yeah cool let's do it and then yeah yeah i don't know but it's because they're not used to a girl like yeah and that's a headstrong girl yeah absolutely who knows what she wants and knows her worth yeah well so she should yeah and then again same thing what's happening you saw sent a 19 second voice no another blue tick and i think that voice note was basically just like saying about doing something oh this is when i was still seeing jamie he put let me know if it goes tits up with your boy because i want to take
Starting point is 00:41:37 you out and do something you're such a sore now i can't say this is somebody that's been on the show as well this is a previous islander that's the tea i can give it's a previous islander that slid into my dms but also as well don't you think it's rude for someone to be like let me know if it get if it goes tits up because it's like saying it's not gonna last which is actually really fucking rude no he literally honestly all he kept saying was like yeah so when you're done with that messing around with him and i'm like oh yeah that's actually rude i'm actually trying to make this work like i'm trying to be like All he kept saying was like, yeah, so when you're done with that, messing around with him. And I'm like, oh. Yeah, that's actually rude.
Starting point is 00:42:07 I'm actually trying to make this work. Like, I'm trying to be like wifey right now. Okay. But yeah, that is a. Was there anybody when you came out of the villa that like you was, you don't have to say who, but like you was genuinely excited that they had messaged you.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Like, was there anyone that you was like, I can't believe this person has messaged me. Or someone who had followed you. I'm trying to think not really i just think it's always weird when other islanders follow you back because it's like i've watched the show for years yeah so like to see like like even like faye winters or like why can't i think like lucy like it's like weird like it's just weird like obviously i've been lucinda part of the same management and it's just so weird like that i've watched it's like weird like it's just weird like obviously i've been lucinda part of the same management and it's just so weird like that i watched it's just weird and i'm like so yeah
Starting point is 00:42:48 there's not really anyone that i've been like oh my god but it's been a bit like hmm didn't think i was your type or hmm didn't think you'd be following me or do you know what i mean yeah there was actually oh my god yeah there was actually another ex-islander from a few years back that's living into the DMs and he actually had a girlfriend. Really? I don't think they're together anymore, but on his Instagram, I literally was like,
Starting point is 00:43:12 okay, let me have a look. And he's still with her. I don't think he is now, but when he slid into my DMs, he was. And I was like... Right. Okay. We were having this conversation the other day actually anna and i don't understand
Starting point is 00:43:28 obviously how people cheat anyways but also like these guys that cheat but also are so public in their relationship no it's like and they don't even try and hide it yeah like are you not embarrassed they also cheat at public events i I just don't understand it. Like influencer events. And I'm like, are you silly? I don't know. I just, maybe,
Starting point is 00:43:50 maybe their relationship is for the public. I don't know. That's the only reason I can have for that. Yeah. And maybe the girl knows that she's just not bothered. That's what I mean. Like, are you sure?
Starting point is 00:43:58 Like, are you sure? Like when you, honestly, like that guy, when I saw the DM, it was like, I'll wear these.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I put them on wearing boots. He was like, wear these boots. Would I take you out? And I literally went and looked. I was like, i'll wear these i put them on wearing boots it's like wear these boots when i take you out and i literally went and looked i was like you've got you've literally got and this is why i don't trust men no honestly and this is i saw some on tiktok and it's like why like pretty girls like are a little bit crazy and they don't trust guys because they see men at their worst like sliding into the dms and being a little bit sneaky whilst i've got girlfriends it's like i've literally witnessed it firsthand yeah i just i don't trust nobody i don't trust
Starting point is 00:44:28 anybody i throw you on that one it's so bad but that's why you've just got it i don't know i feel like because we're like we're still like young i feel like we can kind of just like brush it off whatever but just think like is this gonna be forever babes don't that's so depressing i feel like we all feel like that i'm just thinking about it i thought all of us there five years we're gonna all be with lovely men oh we really i can't wait hopefully not five years well neither but three years for you babe three years oh yeah yeah three years and counting bloody hell no fingers crossed it all works out fingers crossed let's go okay on that note let's react to some of the red flags that we got sent in oh my god show because some people have sent some very good have they oh my god oh my god i'm so excited do we do red or green flags first i feel like we should end on like a positive note so we should
Starting point is 00:45:30 do the green after okay so we've got a funny red one we've already discussed this only messaging on snapchat it's clearly a red flag it's just so red flag are you wanting nudes like why are we why are we self-training yeah i just don't get the appeal like it is a bit weird like why are we self-training like just that is probably why even in the dm like i get it but like snapchat like unless like we're cool and we're like we're mates like if you're trying to move to me why why yeah i agree definitely this one this one's so funny it says it literally just says mummy boys and then it has loads of red flags but i don't know how funny how i feel about this because i think i like like guys
Starting point is 00:46:13 that are like close to their parents and stuff and i think that's really cute but there definitely can be a step too far i was gonna say like i love myself a mommy's boy i love it i do i mean i like when they're close but also there's this guy that I know and he call his and he calls his mom mummy no and that for me I'm like no that is that's more than red flag that is fucking weird our age yeah no 22 no I feel like as well with that like mummy's boys maybe sometimes because they get their own way with their mum and their pet like they think that they can do anything and they kind of they move in a way like where they think oh it's all right like i can get away
Starting point is 00:46:55 with it because i'm a mummy's boy do you know what i mean yeah sometimes the way that their attitude is it's like they think like and their mum will let them get away with anything so it's like yeah any other woman they can just sort of yeah yeah see i think it can either be that but also i feel like some guys that are close to their mum yeah like only want to treat a girl how like because they're so close to their mum yeah like they want to treat a girl nice so i feel like i've actually seen both sides you're gonna have yeah 50 50 split down the middle you're either gonna have one or the other yeah hopefully the nice one so i i get why they put red flag but i feel like sometimes it can actually be a good thing well yeah you know i like a mummy's boy i like a mummy's boy okay another one red flag for me if a boy has
Starting point is 00:47:29 a password on everything like phone computer well like a password on there like everything yes like obviously they're gonna have a password on their phone and computer yeah that's to me it's not a red flag the only time to be a red flag is if like i'm with someone and they won't let me know what they're like their phone pack i don't need to know like your passcode for like your password for instagram because i'm not going to be logging into you i don't want to be switching through our accounts looking through their dms no no i'd rather eat you know what i mean but like i feel like your phone like if i want to just quickly like go and google something like the only red flag yeah i think that's really weird would be if i knew their password then
Starting point is 00:48:02 they change their password that is so so weird. I'd be like, why are you changing your password for? What about as well? So this actually reminds me of a memory. This happened to one of my friends who was in a relationship, like never had like any doubts or anything. But he then went on a boys holiday
Starting point is 00:48:17 and the lock screen was always them. Came back and the lock screen wasn't them. Oh, well, 100%. Fully red flag, right? 100%. That's a huge red flag. Fully red flag. What do you think about boys holidays in general? Do you that's a red flag uh-uh oh i don't i do i do now being on
Starting point is 00:48:32 a girl's holiday and seeing how the boys act on a boy's holiday yeah i don't know like i would never stop my boyfriend going on a boy's holiday like i just think you've got to have trust like if you can't trust if i went on a girl's holiday i'm not gonna cheat like i know yeah like i don't know you know what sometimes it's not even i'm worried about them i'm worried about other girls trying it with them it's i'm worried about yeah but then i also think that if you have a good looking attractive boyfriend that's always gonna happen like that's not their fault yeah the way i see that is like that's then your own that to me would be like my own insecurity yeah like they can't help it face it at the end of the day like if
Starting point is 00:49:10 we're in ibiza we know guys are going to come up to us of course yeah that's true you know what i feel i say that that's just my crazy ass just not wanting him to do it but like i actually went to ibiza last summer on my own and i was with my ex at the time wait on your own yeah and i met like a group of guys on the plane and i like hung around with them for like the whole time but like they were all moving to me but i never not once cheated not once i mean i did come back from the holiday and then break up with my ex because i realized that i actually didn't want to be with her anymore uh no i mean obviously there's a lot of things but it was something that sort of sparked but i've never cheated so it's like if i put myself in like my shoes and then think well surely you'd
Starting point is 00:49:50 have the same respect not to exactly like i think if you're gonna cheat you're gonna cheat i think it doesn't matter what scenario you're in like yeah obviously it could be more tempting but you still have to be that way inclined anyway like yeah not gonna lie i'd rather my boyfriend not go on a boy's holiday obviously anyone just naturally would yeah it's less stress it's less for you to worry about but also at the same time I think for you just to have like that mindset as they're gonna cheat then you also just have no trust in that relationship anyway I think for me it's just a worry well not I don't know the older I get maybe not as much but because I've done have you ever done like a dirty girl's holiday to like have off like his auntie no okay see i've done that and i've seen what the boys are like and i've seen but
Starting point is 00:50:29 maybe it's because they're a lot younger i don't know but i've just seen some horrendous things i just think oh my god if my boyfriend was doing that i'd be i don't know no i can imagine yeah do you know what i mean you just see you see all sorts of holidays like that like crazy well yeah you see it all the time like yes yeah ridiculous it's like even all these events we go to i i see like these people in relationships online and then i see it in real life and i'm like what the fuck yeah it's not the actual fuck and then they'll be like flirting with the girl in the corner i'm like well that's what i saw on your latest instagram post but i'm like yeah it's like okay then but yeah no lads holidays would rather you not yes i would rather you not but we're not going
Starting point is 00:51:06 to be psychos we're gonna let you live your life supportive girlfriends hey okay let's do green flags has patience with you important for the good and the bad days yeah i like that yeah really that's a massive green flag love that yeah 100 somebody that's like really supportive yeah yeah my dreams let me follow them don't think they're silly just let me you know just be there if things don't quite work out
Starting point is 00:51:29 do you know what I mean yeah 100% not asking for a lot guys well I don't think we are you know what I mean no I really don't think we are no bare minimum really
Starting point is 00:51:38 yeah that's actually true fully that to me just is bare minimum yeah like if you're my partner like just support me but in this day and age it doesn't feel like the bare minimum no no it like, if you're my partner, like, just support me. But in this day and age, it doesn't feel like the bare minimum.
Starting point is 00:51:46 No. No, it doesn't. Do you know what as well? Like, a guy that just doesn't believe in everything I believe I can do, they're out the door. Oh, absolutely. If I say I'm going to do this and you're like, yeah, but is that realistic?
Starting point is 00:51:58 Yeah, I hate that. I hate that so much. What is realistic? Like, they should believe in you more than you should believe in yourself. And they should want you to do these things. Yeah. Yeah, no, I completely agree. Another one is,
Starting point is 00:52:09 he makes you presents when he doesn't have enough money to buy anything. Oh my God. I think that's so sweet. That would be so cute. I think that's so cute. That is actually so cute. No, that is...
Starting point is 00:52:19 I don't know what I'd do though, my heart would actually crumble. Oh see, I'm such like an old school romantic, so I love like love letters and just like little notes around the house or like honestly like they're the most thoughtful things anything that's thoughtful i remember like my ex i had like i've got like this teddy that i've had for years and like it's just discontinued everywhere and he found it online and bear in mind this is the this teddy's as old as me it was the first teddy i've ever had um and yeah he actually
Starting point is 00:52:44 went online and found it and bought me it like again first teddy i've ever had um and yeah he actually went online and found it and bought me it like again so i've got like a brand new one and obviously the one i've had for 21 years and i thought like things like that i'm like that is just yeah and he made me like a little hamper i mean obviously because the thing is like we do all these things for these guys so they just need to return the favor yeah honestly i mean yeah he was a good one is what it is but maybe i'll find another one like that yeah 100 this guy's out there like that yeah okay another green flag not having social media oh i don't know it's a bit of a yeah not having it or not using it to the extent i think it's hard for us because we obviously
Starting point is 00:53:23 use social media for like a job i think i would appreciate them maybe having it or not using it. To the extent, I think it's hard for us because we obviously use social media for like a job. I think I would appreciate them maybe having it, but not using it, but not having it at all. It's like, well, then what do you like, what do you do? Like, are you like sneaking about? Yeah, I don't know how I feel. I really don't know how I feel about that. I think I like a guy who like obviously has it,
Starting point is 00:53:44 but who doesn't use it like daily. Yeah, no. Like 100%. Just a bit of a low key. Yeah, low key. Post once every couple of months. But girls, when he's going on that boys holiday, if he's not using it every day,
Starting point is 00:53:53 how are you going to talk? I want to see your story hour by hour. Well, literally me. I'd be going to the, wherever he is. The friends of the friends. Friends of the friends. I'd be going to the web. The tag.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Yeah, the events page, looking through, right? Where is it? The events photographs. Oh my God. Yeah. I'm just, do you know what I mean? be you're going to where yeah the events page looking through right where is the event photographs oh my god yeah i'm just do you know i mean you gotta be honest with it though like i am a bit crazy like if i like you like i'm like sorry just best not be doing anything wrong then and you won't get caught okay the last green flag we've got is when he sleeps on the sofa at his house so that you can be in his bed comfy what oh okay maybe if it's like a parent thing yeah i don't really know why you'd be in that situation are you to share the bed but yeah but if it's like one of you's got i don't know that's cute either way it's cute i
Starting point is 00:54:37 don't really know why you do that but it's cute yeah that it's sweet i would prefer you in the bed with me yeah yeah literally me like um what about if you change the scenario like your friend i don't know like a friend is there oh no i'm trying to think of a scenario that they that they that somebody would have to sleep on the sofa yeah i mean because it's cute but then like in my head my crazy ass would be like well why are you not in the bed with me yeah are you looking at people's instagrams watch you on the sofa and i'm laid cuddling in your bed like yeah and also like i love i love cuddling someone for i'm honestly i think you're either or you either love cuddling or like you're as far away from that person next to you in the bed but i'm literally that person that's like has to cuddle i don't know it depends how much i like someone to be honest if i'm
Starting point is 00:55:22 feeling you i'll be cuddly if i I'm not, I'm like, really? Away. See, I'm just not in a bed. I'm just not in the bed at all. When it got to like the end of like my relationship, like I think I knew it was, we needed at least a break.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Do you know what I mean? We needed time away from each other. So by the end I was like, I was not cuddly. I was like, just no. Yeah. No cuddly.
Starting point is 00:55:44 I feel like that's when you know though that it's slowly coming to yeah an end just need yeah just sometimes you need to get out just curious are you guys like a cuddler after sex uh yeah i would say yeah yeah i think i am as well but i know a lot of people aren't so yeah i would appreciate a cuddle like yeah i think it's nice because it's just like well if not then like what you've just you've just done what you've done and yeah yeah yeah exactly because to me it's just like that's just all you've got what you wanted and that's like i know you're like off to bed whatever that's a green flag for me yeah that's a green flag yeah i mean and if i don't it's a red flag yeah i don't it's a red flag
Starting point is 00:56:22 maybe a pink one some of it like yeah yeah yeah maybe pink yeah so danika yeah to kind of like round up the entire podcast as we've spoken a lot about red green and pink flags and we've all just learned today yeah is there just like any advice you give to somebody just you know if they think they see a red flag like in a relationship or like when they're talking to somebody or a pink flag just honestly run for the hills babes and don't look back no i think it's one of those things where you need to just remember who you are whoever you're speaking to you need to have the the sort of self-love to be like they're lucky to be speaking
Starting point is 00:56:59 to you and to have your time because time is precious you know so yeah i think you've just got to remain true to yourself love yourself enough to know that if somebody's giving you any feeling of doubt or not sure you really it's just that's not the person for you like i get like we're humans like we are complicated and things aren't always going to be plain sailing but if you're sat there questioning things and unsure like just there'll be somebody else i mean and obviously i don't know like how old the you know the listeners are but if you're you know me i'm 21 like i need to sometimes remember like i think you're 21 don't be putting up with things that you wouldn't want from your husband like yeah if i wouldn't want this in a marriage then why am i setting for now
Starting point is 00:57:38 because that's all i'll ever settle for so just live your best life and run for the hills if you see a red flag because it ain't gonna change well also that's it right and also i think as well your gut feeling is always right so if you're getting that gut feeling like early on you that's when you should leave i swear to you my gut has never let me down even like i could be speaking to a guy and it'd be great and the minute i feel like it's changed and my gut you're always right i'm always right even in the villa like things that i knew were like when me and josh like sort of stopped i knew i'm always right even in the villa like things that i knew were like when me and josh like sort of stopped i knew i i just knew and i remember the girls were like you're like you're crazy no girls always know i went i'm telling you when it's changed i went i
Starting point is 00:58:13 know things have changed they were like it's been a day i'm like no no i'm telling you in this day my guts told me it's changed and i was right do you know what i mean so follow your gut run for the hills if you see a red flag remember your worth because you deserve you deserve just somebody that loves you for you really so honestly after this conversation i feel so empowered i'm gonna take so much from your mindset yeah i love it you do you have a really strong positive mindset and then more people need that so genuinely love that for you no absolutely i wish i could give it do you know what i mean but then share it out yeah share it out but all I can do is you know do these podcasts with you girls
Starting point is 00:58:46 and just yeah speak about it and try and empower all the girlies out there I love it thank you so much for coming on cheers to that
Starting point is 00:58:52 thank you cheers to that cheers girls absolutely how have we all still got wine in our glass oh I've nearly finished it yeah to be fair
Starting point is 00:58:59 not too bad for you you know what I mean thank you so much Danika for coming on here thank you and just yeah empowering both of us honestly it's been so so nice and we both loved you on the show so we're just so grateful for you to be here thank you so much i'm so excited to like take on your mindset now
Starting point is 00:59:16 and take that forward with like current talking stages and stuff absolutely thank you and remember you guys can slide into our dms with your own sex, lies and DM slide stories for us to read out in the next episode. And if we don't see you in our DMs, we shall see you next week. Sex, Lies and DM Slides is a Spotify original podcast produced by Spirit Studios with Raymond Tanner and Kate Willis as the producers. And from from Spotify the executive producer is Rhianna Coleman.

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