Sex, Lies & DM Slides - 6: "Hot Girl Winter" with Chezablonde

Episode Date: November 15, 2022

TikTok queen Chezablonde sits down with us to cover... a lot! From what type of boy us girls are into, to our honest thoughts about cuffing season (start drafting ladies). Plus Chezablonde reveals what it’s been really like under the covers since having her sex reassignment surgery. She was definitely give off main character vibes okayyyyy. Don’t forget to sent us over your most scandalous DMs because of course, we will be reading them! Sex, Lies and DM Slides is a Spotify Original podcast. Produced by Spirit Studios with Raymond Tannor and Kate Willis as the producers and from Spotify the Executive Producer is Rhyanna Coleman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey guys, I am Anastasia Kingsnorth and I'm Safran Barker and welcome to Sex, Lies and DM Slides. So each week we invite a guest onto our show to delve into their DMs to discuss all things sex, dating experiences, all the topics in between, the good, the bad and the ugly. And we definitely did that today and of course no DM is off-limits and neither is any topic. Today we're actually joined by Chesire Blonde and we were talking all things cuffing season dating experiences naked acceptance i really really love this this episode you know i thought this is like a beautiful episode i can't explain it but i love it yeah i love it so much i'm so excited for you guys to listen um and of course we invite you guys to slide into our dms with stories of your own so So send us the craziest DM you've ever received or a funny story about your sex or dating life that you'd want to share. And without

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Visit connectsontario.ca. Okay, so we begin every single podcast by asking the same question what is your relationship status oh my god my relationship status is very much single i love when people say they yeah we love it because we're so if we can so relate to that i love that joe whatever i'm saying it's a cuffing season i'm just like no just i didn't even know what cuffing season was until not that long ago. But I think it's probably something we'll speak about a lot on this podcast. I knew what it was because I've never been part of it. I'm like, yeah, I overrated that topic. Yeah, I feel like that.

I mean, everyone's talking about Winter Wonderland already. And I'm just going to do Girls Winter Wonderland this year. Why is there such a big deal with people wanting to go on a date to Winter Wonderland I did as well but it's so overrated is it overrated? I've done it a few times I think it's just from Instagram

and just like seeing couples together it just looks cute it does look cute it does really look cute when I go there with the girls as well I always see couples there and I'm like oh that would be nice

yeah that could be me yeah literally and then just there like necking the wine or whatever well that's what I'm doing but I'm going but it's also like a £300 date why is it so expensive

well it used to be free didn't it used to be able to just walk through but now you have to pay to get in and then it's like £10 yeah what is that all about

it's ridiculous if he's paying for it it's fine though yeah that's true that is so true treat me please so okay so you're a bit

of a TikTok legend thank you you really are and we have seen some of your how many shots videos oh yeah I love those videos we love those yeah one was my favorite oh I got in so much trouble for that I had like I had like two of them react to it I can't remember who it was but one of them replied on their YouTube and was like well it's all right because

she's clapped and got a wham forehead anyway and I was just there like everyone was yeah everyone was just sparring my TikTok the next day and being like did you see what who was it was it Minamint oh Simon

yeah no it was it was Simon it was Simon and he was like she's got a wham forehead and she's clapped I thought it was funny but

I was like I was about to say it sounded like it was just her no yeah I think it was a bit about her to be fair and we saw a video of Elle Brooks

rating your sneaky links. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You were still low down on that. Well, so we met up just to do some little bits and bobs and guys in the weirdest situation, like one of them was like this guy I met at the pub

and I ended up seeing him for ages, but then we stopped seeing each other because then he ended up sleeping with my friend which was like oh really fun yeah um I did have a couple of them message me though and be like what's this one about me and I was like oh but I knew it would happen I knew I'd get a couple messages from them but um yeah no that was slightly awkward but I think you just deny it no I think I admitted it and I was like yeah but I didn't say their names and I didn't show any photos it's fine yeah so really it's only you and them that know so it's also your shag's like it's got to be done it's like

an iconic moment true yeah okay so is sneaky links like a big thing for you you have a lot of sneaky link yeah a hundred percent well I don't have a lot of well I think yeah it's a quite important thing because obviously because I'm single it's nice to have a couple guys you know that are there in case you know in case you get bored now and then you know a little bit lonely yeah yeah just a little cuddle yeah I was gonna say fancy a cuddle one night yeah maybe a bit more than a cuddle no they are I was going to say they're handy

they are just walk straight into that one no it's nice to have a few sneaky links here and there because you don't get as lonely I think because I'm very much

a single girl I don't really want to get into a relationship but it's nice to have someone see if you know what you want then like if that's all that you want

then like exactly yeah 100% if you're on the same page with them as well and they don't want anything more yeah but I've I've made the mistake of like getting too attached to a sneaky link and then be like this is this is my thing is like I just know I get too attached to people yeah that I just I just find myself just getting into relationships I've never really just had the sneaky link stage see I don't have that problem because none of them ever want to wife me up.

They'll just be like, yeah, we'll just... That's the same as me. Yeah. I never get to that stage. I never get to the relationship stage. I've never actually had a proper boyfriend.

I was just about to ask you that. Have you had a boyfriend? No, I've never had a proper boyfriend. I haven't either. Have you not? No, no, we're in the same boat with that one. Okay, that makes for a lot better.

Okay, that's fine. I've barely made it like... We make it to like the end of the talking stage. We're about to get wasted, and then it just goes, and I'm like, thanks for that,

another one wasted. I know, it's a bit sad. Well, I mean, it's okay. One day. I kind of like being single, though. Yeah, I feel like, listen, guys, we complain when we are,

and we complain when we're not. So true. So, I mean, either way, we're complaining. Yeah. I feel like you always need to find a way to kind of moan about something, though. It's the British way, I feel like you always need to find a way to kind of moan about something though it's the British way I think yeah it is the British way yeah that is

true and also in this day and age being like 21 like I just think dating's fun you've gone on a lot of dates and so I went on the date the other day and like he was sweet like he was a sweet guy it was quite I feel like this is already just this is a no-go when you're saying he was sweet so we didn't fall in love on the first day and I I felt like because I'm just this is a no go if you're saying he was sweet yeah just like so we didn't fall in love on the first date and I I feel like

because I'm such a Pisces and I like wear my heart on my sleeve I'm like okay I know straight away if I'm going to be like in love with him or not and I was like nah

it wasn't he was good looking he is good looking and it was okay but it was just quite dry okay and also he didn't pick up the check and I'm not saying

I'm not saying all boys have to pick up the check I'm not saying that to like complete feminist queen over here. But, at least, I even had to split the service charge. Yeah.

And I was just like, hmm. Don't know how I feel about that one. Can't lie. It was like 60 quid as well. If you got, it's like 13 pounds a cocktail. We always have the debate

about the whole bill situation. Yeah. My honest, like, I'm just going to be completely honest I would always want a guy to pay on the first day

thank you I just would I'm just being completely honest I will always be obviously after then completely fair or whatever and I'll always get the second date or whatever

but I just think if they wanted you enough especially I think the person who asked them out should then pay yes like I don't ask guys out which is why I'm not paying

yeah do you know what I mean if I'm asking them out if I'm like come out with me I think I should pay so if they're asking me out they should pay I'll always be really polite

and I'll say like do you want a half it yeah of course I'm not like expecting it yeah of course but he didn't even offer if they want to keep you wait

he didn't even offer to like pay at all he literally you know he like looked away and you know when they look away you just know he was like yeah yeah yeah we'll just like go home he was like are we splitting this and the waitress was like are we splitting the service charge and I was like yep like I

didn't even know why that even annoyed me but I was early so I was there for like 20 minutes before he got there I had two cocktails so they were like 30 quid for two cocktails so disgustingly overpriced and it's like it's fine I get it but like what you said if you're asking me out and it's the first date he did drive me home but then he didn't even he didn't even kiss me at the end of the night so maybe he hasn't since like yeah so it's weird like it's obviously that he likes you yeah like he messaged me the same night and then he messaged me the next day but are you gonna see him again no probably not no I don't think so how did you meet him friend of a friend okay she sent me an insta like oh my friend's interested in you and I was like

okay I'll give it a go see how it goes and then yeah I thought you know I mean I think and also he was a bit shorter than me which is fine because I've been for shorter guys like a lot of the boys I've used to like I've seen in the past are shorter than me um but like I feel like if he was a bit shorter than me which is fine because I've been for shorter guys like a lot of the boys I've used to like I've seen in the past are shorter than me but like I feel like if he was like really tall dark and handsome

he was dark and handsome but he wasn't tall do you know what I mean so I feel like you know I don't know question then does height matter

because I personally I don't think it does but I do like for me it does do you know what's funny actually so Anna is a very like big like you well you're a big dater like she loves going on dates and so she's Do you like for me? It does. Do you know what's funny actually? So Anna is a very like big,

like you, well, you're a big dater. Like she loves going on dates. And so she's very much loves hinge. So she's been trying to get me onto hinge. I love him. I love him.

I think he's the other day when I was by myself and I was on it, I was like, I'm reading these guys heights and they're just not as tall as I want them to be. See, I'm five, nine. So if they're, I need them to be taller than me in'9 so if they're I need them

to be taller than me in heels which is like six foot plus because I'm about six foot maybe six foot one in heels if I'm going like if we're going like the ego shoes and I'm six foot two I'll tell you that now so like I need them to be really tall and I find to be fair I like quite skinny guys I think like I'm a real yeah, like real Pete Davidson vibes. Really? So would that be like your type on paper? Um,

not him exactly, but that kind of type, basically. A little bit dead looking. Do you know what I mean? What was it? What was it? Jossie said the other day.

Jossie said the exact same. She was like, I like a guy who looks like they're fresh out the grave. Yes. I was so with her on that one because there's something about it it's so fair see I'm gonna be honest I don't understand that yeah I'm so the opposite I love that for you but I can't that's just not my type yeah yeah no I know what's your what's your guys type well I mean I love a gym lad do you

so I'm so opposite actually I just uh yeah or just somebody sporty love a basketball player if you were okay that's like the upset yeah yeah because they're really tall though and like yeah yeah if you're wearing very masculine i like you basically if you're wearing a what hoodie a represent hoodie i don't know what anna's type is because honestly i feel like your type changes a lot well it just it changes depending on what drink I've had yeah no that's a that's a fair point to be fair

I feel like I have loads of different types to be fair though I've never been with my type that's what I was about to say I've never dated my type before no to be fair

neither neither I think I've like shagged someone who's my I've definitely like got with people who are like my type

and stuff like that but never like been in a relationship with someone who's my type yeah I've dated people all my like four relationships like are so opposite to my type but now I actually just this was literally the other day I decided I told myself I'm not going for somebody that isn't my type anymore because as much like because obviously personality is the most important thing and I feel like my exes obviously I was attracted to them but obviously it was

also personality as well because it means so much but I'm like I think the reason they're not lasting and I'm falling out of love is because they're not my type I think I just need to

go for my type nothing but your type yeah 100% your type is beautiful my type is so beautiful that it's just so annoying every time you show me on the phone

I'm like are you actually for real yeah gorgeous okay so let's talk cuffing season considering even though we're all single that it's just so annoying. It's why you show me on the phone. I'm like, are you actually for real? Yeah. Or like a god. Okay, so let's talk cuffing season, considering even though we're all single. What do you think about cuffing season? I love the idea of,

I actually like, I'm a little bit, like on the inside, I am a little bit of a romantic and I love the idea of me meeting my soulmate and us like, you know, like sharing a passionate like kiss on, I was going to say one of the bridges in London. I can't think of one,

but I mean like that kind of vibe. Like one of the bridges. But just, you know, one of those moments where it's all romantic and whatever, but one that never really happened, especially for me anyway.

I do love the idea of cuffing season, but then I like to go out and have fun and just kind of be a bit of a slag. Do you know what I mean? I know that sounds so bad,

but I do just enjoy living my life. I think why not? I think hot girl winter yeah hot girl winter that's what I'm saying I'm carrying on hot girl summer winter for real

that is so funny yeah I mean no I would quite like to be in a relationship so oh okay really yeah

but you are a relationship girl though I am yeah that's the thing I am just such a relationship girl I just don't know how to get into one I don't know how to get into one.

I don't know how to navigate it. But you know what though? I feel like it always comes when you're not looking for it. So I probably will be the last out of the three of us, honestly guys, because I keep looking for it

and it's not happening. No, but like I think everyone keeps saying that to me. Like, oh, I feel like I've stopped looking and it still hasn't happened. I've definitely stopped looking. I go on dates,

but like I'm not actually looking for a relationship. Yeah. I don't know what i'm looking for by going on dates but well yeah to be fair i'm not even doing much so yeah yeah well i know what you're looking for okay so in 2017 cuffing season was actually shortlisted by collins dictionary for the word of the year how mad is that it didn't win word of the year. How mad is that? It didn't win. The word of the year. Word of the year. It didn't win.

What did win? Fake news. What year was this? 2017. Okay. But I didn't even really know what cuffing season was. No. Let alone for it to be like shortlisted.

I feel like I've like found it out this year. To round it up is like almost getting wifed off for the winter. Pretty much. Yeah. Because I guess it's more of like, you know, you don't really go out and do much. Well, you do. But in the summer, you're going out, you're meeting loads of people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Do I want to be at home? You like settle down, yeah. Moving out with my boyfriend? Probably. Will I? No. I think it's definitely easier to be single in the summer because it's like, even like the season.

You make more plans and stuff, don't you? Yeah, exactly. And you always want to be out because it's sunny and hot in the winter you just want to be in and when you're in on your own it's a bit have you guys ever been with someone just like through the winter then and then like like because I know you both said you haven't been in like actual relationships but like being seeing someone and then it's got to summer and you're like nah scrap this now it's summer no no I don't think I've ever what do you mean like, nah, scrap this now, it's summer. No. No, I don't think I've ever, what do you mean like ever ended something because summer's coming up?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like it's just happened naturally. I feel like I've kind of drifted myself. So maybe, yeah. But also I don't think I've been in a relationship long enough to make it last. What's like your longest talking stage? Oh my God, like two months.

Oh really? Yeah. Right, okay. I also get an ick so easily. What's your biggest ick? Everything's an ick for me. Literally everything's a fucking ick for me i'm trying to think um i have like the weirdest icks you know when like boys run with a backpack on like flops up and down it's the worst fucking thing in the world it's's like, what are you? And they're like, if they have like long hair, it flops. Oh, I've met my match.

Drop me out. Literally. I imagine the guy I'm speaking running in a backpack and I can't not do it. It's so annoying. This is so funny. Or like running to the bus and missing it. This is literally Anna's biggest ick of all time.

Have you heard this ick? I know it's really fucked up. But like them sat in the bath naked. They're really flopping around in the bath yeah oh i think i have heard that no it's awful it's horrendous okay i feel like i've met my match with it yeah i'm sorry i don't have that no yeah that's that's a good one though the bath one because i've heard that before like them if you need to fall out of love that is what you imagine no honestly i don't need to help falling out of love, that is what you imagine. No, honestly, I don't need help falling out of love.

Yeah, running in the backpack is a bad one. Like, I've seen it when I'm at the train station or something, because I'm a fast walker. Like, I really, like, if I've got my headphones and I'm at the station,

I'm like, yeah, like, power, bitch. Like, I'm ready to go. Do you know what's so funny? I actually can't stand slow walkers. Especially in London as well. I can't stand it. Like, it literally drives me nuts.

I'm like, have you not got places to be? Or when they stand on the left on the or going on the tube and people are sitting there yeah yeah yeah grinds my gears

so okay so this winter how are we going to find a boyfriend guys how are we going to find a winter um

I reckon we all change the height mode on Hinge yeah I think that's a really good idea so we can actually get our type. Yeah. Right?

That's something we'll all sort out after this. I like what you said earlier about actually going for our types. I feel like when you don't go for your type, it's a bit like, I feel like you're not, I mean, this might be like a really like tabby thing to say, but you're not like fulfilled properly if you're not going for your type. Yeah, that's what I mean. I feel like that, even if you feel like you are at first,

you're always going to really have the same type, let's be honest. My type hasn't changed. No, neither. I think I've had the same type. It's always been Anthony Joshua and I still haven't got him.

To be fair, I think Anthony Joshua is everyone. I would give Anthony Joshua a go. Oh my goodness. He is just, wow. He's insane. And Michael Jordan. Michael B. Jordan.

Oh my goodness. I'd have the two at the same time. You know the amount of times I've watch Creed surely just just for him he's so beautiful oh wow

I'd have them both at the same time you know what guys you both sound like you're describing the complete opposite to your type no it's true though

yeah but I feel like I think my celebrity crush which is so weird is because it's completely opposite to my type and he's short is Dave

like I just think oh my god I fancy Dave so much he's type and he's short is Dave like I just think oh my god I fancy Dave so much he's so beautiful like his face is just like oh my god and he's just like

his little smile I just think he's so beautiful I fell in love with him on Top Boy though as Modi I don't even know why because he was such a I haven't actually seen Top Boy

Top Boy he was so good really yeah he was on Top Boy and I looked at him and I was like oh my god

I'm in love with this man but I do that anyway like if I look at a guy in the street I was like, oh my God, I'm in love with this man. But I do that anyway. Like if I look at a guy in the street, I like fall in love or like think I'm in love so quickly. Like I'll look at someone

in the street and be like, oh they're my soulmate. No, no, no. I literally fall in love so quickly. That was the other night when we were outside of Selfish

and we saw that guy and I literally said out loud, my friend was speaking to him and I went, fucking hell, he's beautiful. And my friend turned around and went,

you've just said that out loud. And the whole tube, and the whole tube was just going, literally from across the tube, I'm in love. I'm in love. He was gorgeous.

You just got to let that out. Oh, he was so good looking. He looked like he should be in some sort of movie. Yeah. That kind of eye. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I don't normally go for, but I was like,

you look like you're in a movie. He was definitely like a pretty boy, but he was, yeah, he was very good looking. But sometimes, but the thing is with pretty boys boys they know they're pretty though like you'll get to know them

and they can just be really obsessed and it's that's such a turn off when they're like overly obsessed with themselves yeah I hate that oh I thought you were

going to say overly obsessed with you oh no no no that's not on it they could be obsessed with me yeah they're obsessed with me but no I think when boys

are obsessed with themselves like really yeah because there's a fine line I think between confidence and being like obsessed with yourself 100% like confidence is

confidence is like big dick energy like yeah it's sexy at the end of the day 100% yeah yeah 100% I actually have here

the cuffing season schedule right so we can compare where we're at look at her whipping out these facts I love it so we have actually fucked it to begin with to be honest because we're meant to be looking for someone in august okay well i could do next august can i just say can i just say something

though i was talking to somebody on august and then it fucked off okay so you fucked it then for this year so this is for next year okay then in October which is now it's tryouts so we're meant to be dating

and like trying different things okay I haven't I haven't gone on a date either I've been on a date Alicia was on a date two days ago

you've got a date on Saturday I meant to have a date on Saturday no but I'm not going today is he good looking I knew you were going to say that.

He's so good looking. Can I see? And guess what? And guess what? He's a basketball player. Why aren't you going on the date? You literally just sat there and said, I'm only going to go for my type.

And now you've got the opportunity. Yes, right. But hang on. I actually want to read the messages. They're so boring, right? Because, so I spoke to this guy. He's so good looking. He messages me first.

So I respond. So naturally I'm like, oh, oh he's interested he's like messaged me first so I'm messaging him and then he messaged me something and he was like well it's like I'm trying to what even was it basically he asked me out right yeah so I'm like sure like but I go away next week so like it would have to be this weekend or whatever he's like yeah yeah definitely so I've now agreed to going out with him this weekend but his messages are so dry he just doesn't ask questions back

yeah dead chat is such a turn off though if they don't have good chat then well this is the thing I've signed myself up so early because I was like

fuck it's spontaneous you know and I keep sending me his research for the pod so I'm like do you know what babe I want a date and do something with her no but to be fair someone said it to me the other day I was like oh it's research for the pod so I'm like do you know what babe I want a date and do you see no but to be fair I'm someone said it to me that day I was like oh it's all right

because if the date's shit you can just get good content out of it and I was like that's true so I was like yeah sure so I agreed to it like you know what because it's not that I'm nervous to go on the date that's fine like if it's like bad whatever but it's more like I'm asking him things and he's just answering about himself. And I'm like, if this is all he's got to give now, then what's he going to give on the day? Like, can I be bothered to come to London just to talk about somebody else?

No. No. But then I'm like, but also because we haven't really spoken about anything, the date could be better because there's more to speak about. That's what I said to you. I don't know whether he's like holding off so it's like better in person. there's more to speak about but then I don't know whether

he's like holding off so it's like better in person he's going to really surprise you but surely if he thinks he's got a hold off so he can have a conversation in person then he clearly can't

he didn't reply to your story double message you even though you didn't reply yeah babe right he reacted with a love struck face

right oh that's not that yeah because I didn't reply so this was like the next day then I replied like thank you or whatever then he reacted with a love strut face right oh that's not that yeah because I didn't reply so this was like the next day then I replied like thank you

or whatever then he just put a kiss and I just thought it's not like he's trying to make a conversation you know yeah this is why

I feel like when you're meeting someone it's better to meet them in person yeah I really like meeting people in person like if it's like

again so cringy like across the bar like you meet him and like you always like I really like I feel like good chat is such you meet him and like you always like I really like I feel like good chat is such a turn on and also you can see

what they're like like in a scenario with like strangers and like the public because that means a lot to me as well yeah and you never know who could you could be

going on a date with if you've never spoken to them before as well so it's nice to see what people's what people are about basically in real life see this is why I just

don't think like hinges for me it's so funny though because I keep saying this. I guarantee I meet the love of my life on Hinge or something. You will. You'll meet your husband on Hinge. I'm telling you. The boys on Hinge, I feel like they are quite good to be fair.

They are. They are good. That's why I set your location to Manchester because they're good. Manchester, do they have a basketball team? I'm sure they do. Manchester boys are really fit though thank you

like I have such a thing for H I think he's really good looking thank you oh my god do you know what I mean yes me too like his accent

I think it's the accent it's like the chippy chappy sort of like yeah yeah yeah he's like his accent is like yeah just him yeah just him

Manchester boys okay yeah Manchester boys I wouldn't know I wouldn't know I wouldn't know you would have if you didn't cancel on the date the other week

oh the guy in Manchester yeah cancel on another date well see this is why it's because can I just say something though it's because

I don't even want to go on a date I just don't I can't be bothered to do the dating thing I hate that it's so grim what's your favourite

colour like oh god what taste have you been on that sounds like I think I think it's not what's your favourite colour like no literally oh god what takes a view that sounds I think I think it's you beating me up

because last time I spoke to Anna she's like yeah the thing is it is the same conversation like what's your favourite colour and I thought surely not

Christ that is dreadful I've only been asked that once and I did think oh god but I didn't like him I think we just ran out of things to talk about

when you like actually met the right person you will have a fun conversation with them yeah we got to October then we got sidetracked which was try out

which we've been doing oh did we get to October we got to October that's what we're doing now so we all should be dating right now we should be like trying out

that makes me feel terrible about myself by the way that we were meant to be dating in October actually to be fair well you were on a date two days ago

yeah but doesn't yeah but does that mean you're meant to be going out with them in October? No, no, we're like trying. No, like trying out. Oh, that's fine. That's exactly what you're doing.

Okay, fine. I feel good about the case. Testing orders, you know. We're doing really well. So basically, this is our path to a relationship right now. Shit. Maybe we both will have boyfriends. That scares me.

We've got pre-season in November yes that means like talking stage talking stage okay wait guys we don't have long why

we don't have long to be in the talking stage no oh no that's not that long that's like a month oh that's not a lot but like

to be fair sometimes when you meet people it can happen really fast but that does not happen that often that's what I was going to say how long do you think a talking stage should be

because I feel like some people have them for like six months some people have them for like a month oh I don't know yeah to be honest

I just don't I think if you just know you know like I think it I just would go with the flow yeah yeah but there's a limit I wouldn't go

I mean the last guy that I was with babe how long was I like talking to him for me too we were both in a seven month stage for me that is so long

that to be fair that is so long. That, to be fair, that is quite a long time. I think it should be like three months. I agree. Three months is like, after that,

I'd be then questioning like, what are your intentions? Yeah, what is your intentions? But we say we'd be doing that, but neither of us did. Yeah, we didn't.

I'd be like, get your fucking arse in gear. Why aren't you asking me out? Yeah. I would be a bit pissed off if it was more than three months. Yeah. But to be fair, I've had friends who were in the talking stage for ages and now they're in like

really long-term happy relationship so it's like maybe slow and steady wins the race yeah yeah we just got bad luck with that one anyway cuffing season which is December 1st to January 15th okay we've got a while January 1st to December 15th. Can I just say something? I don't know how I feel about that because why do I want to be with someone, right? Just throughout winter and then come spend Christmas with me and that's my memory of Christmas. That's my favourite time of the year.

Yeah, I feel like now, I don't know if I got a boyfriend in November, I don't know if I'd bring them round for Christmas in December. I feel like that's so, for me anyway, it'd be like my first boy to bring round at at Christmas I'd be weird and also like my family also crazy as well like they're amazing but they're like do you know what I mean like we're

all very extroverted as well and I know my dad would take the piss out of him like 100% so I don't know if I'd be able to like let that kind of part of that because our Christmas is always like drama filled so I don't know really yeah oh my god yeah and then every time you look back at the family photos they're there on christmas day yeah yeah i don't know if i'd want that no maybe next christmas yeah if i met someone now next christmas definitely yeah okay so then it ends on january 15th no because then we've got the playoffs right which is why i'm slightly confused because does this mean that you should be speaking to like several people and then play them off against each other? Is that what it means?

I don't know. Surely not. No, not if you're already in a relationship. And then we've got the championship game, which is Valentine's Day. So that's when it ends. Oh, wow. So it ends on Valentine's Day. Yeah.

That's brutal. So you're either going to be with them or fuck their ass off oh so is that what it is oh so that's like the end thing oh my god oh so that's when the relationship

either starts or it's finished okay got it yeah because maybe the playoffs is a battle between like different people

maybe it's like battle between your emotions yeah right before the championship do you know what I mean maybe that's what it is we fucked that you can tell

but basically none of us have been part of the cuffing season I don't think I want to be this year I'm going to be honest I don't

just another year of hot girl winter no is it cold girl winter no it's hot girl winter I think it's hot girl winter hot girl winter yeah

are you going to be part of hot girl winter this year babes absolutely get that sexy christmas jumper on can't freaking wait yeah let's switch the conversation slightly now to naked acceptance we're gonna completely switch it up okay so do you guys feel comfortable naked i think it depends what situation i'm in okay like i don't know it depends what situation I'm in. Okay. Like,

I don't know. It depends. I guess I do. But then I feel like everyone has their insecurities that it's like, I don't know. I don't know if I completely do actually thinking about it. Yeah. Well,

I think obviously because I'm trans and like before my op and everything, like never because I was so unhappy in myself. But now since I've got my new vagina I'm like fucking walking around that I actually I feel really bad for my flatmates I'm actually walking around the house butt naked I'm like can someone fake tell me like it is kind of bad for you but I'm quite I feel like I'm quite confident naked now okay how many months post-op are you four and how is she feeling she's feeling great like oh my god she's stunning she's so small I've got like a tiny little girl yeah because at first she was like not gonna lie she was a bit of a fat puss

and it was quite I was walking around and my flatmate who's like my best friend like he's so funny he called my vagina Homer Simpson mouth I was just about to say have you named her because I really wanted to know I haven't actually named her yet. Have you not? No, I need to think of one. That is so good. Yeah, Homer Simpson mouth. Like, can you imagine? But now she's pretty. Like, I shaved her yesterday.

So now that name's gone. Yeah, that name is out. That name's out. I'm not having the Homer Simpson mouth anymore. No. Yeah, no. So four months post-op. So it is, yeah, she looks good.

Like, she does look good. And she fit, like, because before, like, when I wore a thong, it looked, it was a bit, like, conspicuous, looking like one flat would be falling out. But now, like she fits in perfectly. She's settled in. Did they say that that was going to be the case? Well, I knew it was going to be swollen, basically.

I knew it was going to be like, it wasn't going to look like. When I first looked at my vagina, when it was first done. Oh my God, it looked like a fucking roast chicken. Like it was not. Stop it. You know, and like. But in your head, you chicken like it was not stop it you know but in your head you knew that it was

going to be swollen so you were swallowing yeah yeah yeah like I was I was shown photos of what it will look like in like a year's time and already

it's like swell babes and if you're four months and you're feeling this way you wait till that year yeah literally wait till this year

my vagina's like it's because you're going to you're going to not just be in there flat naked you're going gonna be everywhere babe yeah no it's amazing no it is good

and like I'm so happy with it like they smashed it I had my okay this is actually a bit TM I don't know if like I should talk about this I actually had my first orgasm

since having a vagina two days ago really? yeah like I didn't think because so many people can't have orgasms from like after having like reassignment surgery

I literally had my first orgasm two days ago and I was like oh my fucking God. Revolutionary? Literally revolutionary. We love to fucking see it. Oh, it was just so brilliant.

I was so happy. Love that for you. I thought I'd share that with you guys. I love that for you. Thank you. That actually must have been like such a, like an amazing moment for you.

It really was. I was like in my bed smiling. I was like, yay! Because I guess like you said, if some people don't, you was kind of at that stage where you were like, I don't know. Like, is it going to happen for you? I was so scared. I was so you said if some people don't you was kind of at that stage where you were like I don't know

like is it going to happen for you I was so curious as to whether you were going to be able to orgasm oh my god it was like one of my main factors I really hope I can like

enjoy sex and like enjoying sex with straight men is so shit anyway like not always but like it's hard to like a lot of them don't know

what they're doing so it was nice to know that it could happen so I'm really glad that it has I feel like a lot like a weight's been lifted off my shoulders. So it was nice to know that it could happen. So I'm really glad that it has. I feel like a lot, like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders. Oh, I'm so happy for you. That's sweet.

I love that. Thank you. But yeah, no, it was good. So yeah, I feel like, anyway, walking around the house naked. Yeah. Okay. So what is your opinion on sex with the light on or light off? I feel like we've all just kind of said we're kind of confident naked, but still, would

you prefer lights on or lights off? Different story though. I feel like I want like a dimmed light yeah yeah like not peach black fucking in daylight not too sure yeah like it obviously has to happen sometimes but i do prefer all right i feel like in daylight is fine but just not first time no yeah not first time we need to go to like a comfort level before we're shagging in the daylight especially like yeah we would not make a porn and like also boys their orgasm face is just like i can't look at a boy if i'm fucking it puts me off a bit oh god that is like another as well they're like oh god it's like jesus christ and then they'll cut their toes will like crinkle up and it's just not it's just not for me yeah it's gonna we're gonna have to get

through a certain stage before I'm seeing your full on knock on with the lights on yeah yeah I'm a lights off girl that's what I'm learning

yeah I think I'm a lights off with a dimmer yeah like you know on a dim just like really low dim I once had a guy who had LED lights and I got to his house

he just put red LED lights on and I was like Christ you know what's about to go down I mean we already did anyway that is so funny okay question

this is really random but apparently girls orgasm quicker when they've got their socks on have you had sex with your socks on I've never fucking heard that really

I actually heard this the other day it works yeah what really I feel like it's because it's like a comfort thing yeah

when your socks are on I don't know I hate having my feet out I used to go to the beach and like a comfort thing. Yeah. When your socks are on. I don't know. I hate having my feet out. I used to go to the beach and be in a bikini and have my socks on. No, babe. Yeah. I don't think that would be a thing for me. On the stones of Brian.

Oh, yeah. Okay. I was thinking on sand. Yeah, Brian, that makes sense. Yeah, but Brian Beach is so painful. Like, you know, when you're walking, it's not the one. I don't think that would make a difference for me. Because it sounds so weird, but I don't think that would make a difference for me. Because, I mean, it's like,

this sounds so weird, but I always have my feet out. Like, because even when I go to the gym, like in what I train in at the gym, like Callie, I can't wear shoes. I'm just always walking around bare feet. Right.

So, I'm that weird person. I always have shoes and I never have my feet out. Like, even if I go to sleep in socks. Really? Yeah. I can go to sleep. Red flag. I can go to sleep I can go to sleep in socks I actually can go to sleep in socks but like yeah I don't know yeah I guess

that does make sense I'd never heard that honestly just me definitely makes sense yeah just try it just keep socks on I probably I probably have had. Yeah, no, you just orgasm better. Wow. I know. Random fact. That's interesting. That is interesting. I'll let you guys know.

Is it the actual orgasm? Is it the actual orgasm or is it just like the whole like sexual experience itself? Okay. So that's so... TMI. I haven't wore socks

like whilst having sex with somebody. It's only when I've been like pleasuring myself, but I found that I orgasm better, yeah. Okay, fair play. Well, I had socks on when I well because when I had my orgasm it was myself but

yeah I had it it was great and I had my socks on there we go maybe it was because I had my socks on maybe wow I wouldn't doubt it

if it was the reason when they start selling like matching underwear sets they need to get socks like a lace like a lace yeah like a little

lace moment lounge underwear take notes how funny that actually became a thing I would die honestly get me that brand deal I'll do that you can say from experience I know this works yeah yeah for. Okay, so when do you guys feel most comfortable naked? This is such a random one, but if I've like just done like a fresh fake tan and I'll come out of the shower and you get like your body butter on.

Yeah, like when I'm shaved, I'm tanned. Basically like all the prep. All done. When I fully prepped. Yeah. Fully prepped and all completed. Like hair's been blow dried.

Also when I've just washed my hair and it's like flowy. Yeah. And then like you look in the mirror and you're like,'s been blow dried when I've just washed my hair and it's like flowy yeah and then like you look in the mirror and you're like fuck me yeah fuck me

I would fuck me yeah and then I'll just have to go and have a wank do you know what I mean sorry oh sorry that was a bit TMI

that is not TMI at all okay so when you are going to have sex with someone how long do you think you should like know them before like are you into like one night stands

oh I have a one night stand like not all the time but I think occasionally it's fine I'm partial to a one night stand I don't think it's bad

why not if you want it and they want it and it's if you're both two consenting adults where's the problem sometimes I feel like

it's like less pressure to look a certain way if I'm just having a one-night stand yeah I don't feel like because I don't like them like that so I'm not thinking like how I look yeah does that make sense totally makes yeah you're not like overthinking the situation yeah because I guess for a one-night stand you literally are just doing it to have sex and normally well for me I've always like I've had if I'm having a one-night stand I probably would have had a drink or whatever so yeah you don't like I feel like if you're like have a guy coming round I'd have 10 times more anxiety because I'm like okay have I done this have I done this it's like are my flatmates out like like you've almost you've got to be

prepared for it haven't you yeah it's like if it's a one-night stand you can just you're not really thinking about it yeah and if you know your legs are hairy or whatever it doesn't matter it doesn't matter they know as well that you didn't prep for it yeah and if you know your legs are hairy or whatever it doesn't matter it doesn't matter because they know as well that you didn't prep for this yeah exactly you just kind of went with the moment

I think it's kind of better sometimes if they know what they're doing it can actually be better because you don't you're not you don't have like stress in the back of your head

thinking oh god like blah blah blah am I doing this right or do they like me yeah you just you don't give a fuck and normally if it's a guy then you're

I mean they've got a boner anyway do you know what I mean they're fine either way I don't think I don't think boys actually care that much either yeah

about like if you've shaved a vagina or if you've shaved a leg or whatever yeah I feel like honestly that's such an like we think about it so much more than they do

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This is our favorite part of the podcast, by the way. I'm scared. I want to hear what shit you've got going on in there. Oh my God, I've got some weird... It was actually a bit of a struggle to find some that were quite juicy but this one is from please don't read that has no because like this one may or may not be someone who was on love island and it's like a weird conversation it's not really that sexual but i'll just let you

read it okay just scroll a screenshot it also just scroll that way i'm so interested to know who this is fuck right off I've messaged this guy before no I've messaged this guy before he's weird he's so weird wait wait wait can we just say

is it from this year's or no no no no a few years ago I don't even know who that is yeah no I didn't either until wait sorry can I just look

because I actually just want oh it's screenshot I don't know who it is I can't remember if he came in as a bombshell or if he was I have no idea I don't think he was a bunch i think no he wasn't the original cast he's actually dating so weird he's dating someone

now he's dating someone now yeah yeah okay right you were in this very public relationship yeah this was before they were dating either way this is after i'll tell you later okay it's weird like just read for the conversation because it's just the weirdest fucking shit i've ever heard in my life okay so he said, I feel like you need to know that I've been sat on your TikTok and Insta for the last hour trying to see if you're a tranny.

Yeah. Keep going. Yeah. That TikTok has done me dirty and now I'm only going to get four hours sleep but you're one funny girl, man. Not sure yet. No.

Is he fucking joking? No, keep going honestly it's so weird and you put why did he think he had the audacity like to call me a slur as well no literally it's so grim oh my god that is so like disgusting yeah so you said pardon he put please don't make me try and explain this and sent you a video what was the video of't remember. I think it was like a might when he, maybe one of my TikToks or something like that. Oh, I think he sent me the TikTok. Right. Okay. And you put, I'm not sure what you're asking me. And he put, oh no, no questions, merely a statement. You just put, okay, sorry, but I'm a girl. Just clear that up. And he put, I know mate, fuck sake. I'll be honest though. When I seen the initial TikTok I was shook but

then I was like nah no way she literally couldn't have ever been a boy so done like 90 minutes research trying to find pics of when you were a boy you can read the rest what the fuck yeah and there's more as well yeah you then put her oh god for fuck's sake that's so weird that's so weird haha he put I know and then you put but you didn't find any then he put Lisa I told you though

Reese is a girl's name and boy's name in it so I just thought so strange so strange like just the way he carried on

the conversation but also as well like what did he want to get out that conversation I still don't know oh well you'll see. There's more?

There's more. Then he goes on to say, maybe, just maybe, the boy's done me here. But then now I was pleasantly surprised. And you put, by the way, you're like way too nice. Yeah, no, I know. You're being very polite. No, I kind of like told him

off at the end but I guess maybe like well you just like where the fuck is he going with this well basically towards the end he kind of he just asked about he basically was talking about how he'd never he's always wanted a tranny friend he continues to use the word tranny as well which is such an offensive like yeah derogatory term to use for anyone, especially a trans person. And just, and I was just like, I mean, you can read it, but it was just like, I was just like, you're so, he's a fucking idiot. Like, he's just not got no clue, basically.

Yeah, because he then goes on to say, you said, I've never had someone say that before, so random. And he put, ha ha, we need to break the ice somehow and you'll remember it more if it's this way I just don't get where he's going with this no it's so weird

it's like it's his really fucked up way of I think trying to flirt with you or like I'm not sure yeah it's so strange

like and this is that is actually probably one of the weirdest DMs I've ever read no I'm not even joking I've had stuff like that not from like not necessarily from people who were like a couple but That is actually probably one of the weirdest DMs I've ever read. No, I'm not even joking. I've had stuff like that.

Not from like, not necessarily from people who are like a couple, but I get messages like that, like weird messages like that on the daily basis of like men saying, oh, I don't know how, like, you're so interesting. Like the fact that you used to be a boy, like it really turns me on. Like the way people fetishize me is so fucking weird I was gonna ask this I'm first of all I'm so sorry that he mentioned that because that is yeah it's weird do you deal with a lot of online hate yeah so much and what are your comments like on TikTok is that is that similar to the DM situation or it's more to be honest with you

I firstly before I say anything I think that the hate on TikTok is predominantly from 14 year old boys who just don't have a fucking clue about the world and ignorant men basically um it's a lot of spam comments of the same thing like oh she's a bloke she's got wood can I hold you with all that shit that they think is fucking hilarious and it's like first of all I wouldn't even look at you in this like the ones who my eyes i wouldn't even look at you in the fucking street if like you join me like literally check your hairline before you even try and check me can i just say also as well like i think anyone that gives hay honestly it is fully insecurities 100 that is all that it is oh 100 and it just so much just shows so yeah it's people who feel bad about themselves they need to project it on someone who's actually doing well um so yeah it can be quite obsessive it's not as bad

as it was like when i first started out when i first kind of i didn't what told people i was trans on tiktok it was like message after message after message and like like all my comments had to fill all my comments i had to like delete my comments at one point just because it was so intense people just giving me like transphobic abuse um but to be honest with you like I feel because when I came out in school when I was like 11 so I grew up with people giving me shit and it was never like it was pretty bad it was never like horrific horrific but it was it was nasty and it was fucking shit so I feel like I've always had a little bit of a thick skin so it's never really bothered me and I think it's kind of funny at the end of the day that they are that bothered because I'm living my life happily without a care for them at all but that makes you so happy that you have that attitude towards it and you're just yeah I

don't give a fuck and you're so thick-skinned about it and 100% but it's that when you're in this industry you have to be otherwise you live your life for other people 100% you can't live your life for strangers who give you abuse I own like people's opinion

I care about people's opinion who I care about yeah do you know what I mean but they don't know you as a person oh exactly they don't know anything about my character

anything about my personality so it's like I don't give a shit what some random person on the internet says do you know what I mean yeah it's so dumb

but that guy is a prime example of just because someone's So it's like, I don't give a shit what some random person on the internet says. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's so dumb. But that guy is a prime example of just because someone's, you know, like in the public eye or whatever, doesn't mean they're educated in the way to speak to people. And so many people are. And I've met so many amazing people who are so accepting and lovely. But he's just a fucking idiot. But I agree with what you said. I think it's just his weird way of trying to flirt or get my attention

which it got my attention but he's like literally admitted that at the end yeah it was like go break the ice

oh you didn't even you didn't want to talk to him yeah he slid into your hands what made you think I wanted to talk to you do you know what I mean like

that is that is just oh yeah people like that make me so angry like so angry. Like, so angry. I don't even know how he was as nice as he was.

I don't know. I feel like I should have cast him out more. If I would go back, I would definitely cast him out more. I kind of wanted to see where he was going with it as well. Yeah. Which is like... And also because, like, I didn't actually know who he was, but now I know who he is, I feel like... Not that I would ever, like, say anything,

but it's like, just remember that you did say that to me do you know what I mean yeah of course yeah okay do you have any other dms yeah I've got a couple these are just like message like these are like just an average message request that I'll get I love reading people's message requests oh so this one was this one was yesterday so I just literally went on one of my message repairs. Even though. I want your little girl inside me. And it's the girl with the aubergine emoji. Okay.

The amount of times people message me and be like, I once got a DM of this like anime porn and it was a guy and a girl but the girl had like the biggest cock I've ever seen in my life and he messaged me being like this would be us and I had my surgery since then I replied being like no we couldn't people are so weird I swear to god all people message me about is my genitalia i swear on the daily yeah really like literally every day someone i know from back home who i've never spoken to in my life came up to me on brighton pride and went literally never spoken to him ever and went so how's your your vagina then? Like, literally to my face.

And this is someone who's like in, not my circle, but like a friend of a friend who like, like we've never actually had a conversation in our lives

and that's the first thing he said to me. And I was like, wow. I was like, okay. I know I do speak about it online and whatever,

but I just think that's so strange, especially when it's someone I know. Yeah. Has there ever been a time because I know like, you know, with everyone, even when I get hate, like sometimes I think, oh, why do I even share?

Like, why do I even bother? Has there ever been a time where you've been like, oh, I wish I didn't, like, I wish I didn't post online or like anything like that because like you felt like the hate has got too much. Because I think like, I'm a very strong, like, like you know I think I have thick skin but there's definitely times where like it's nearly broke me oh 100% I think at the beginning when I first started out talking about me being trans in my transition it was so overwhelming like the amount of hate and it did really affect me at first and this was about like a year or so ago now

and it was too much and I definitely remember thinking oh like I might delete the videos or I really wish I didn't speak about it but now I think because of how I've done since talking about it it's really like grown my platform and done so well for me I think if I ever think of go to that place of oh this has given me hate I go okay well on the other hand it's given me so many opportunities and I've you know well not only that as well like other people you know you're helping other people out as well I was gonna say so many people will take so much from your videos yeah I feel so much more comfortable in themselves yeah you being so open it'll make them feel like they can be open as well well 100% because I've had loads of messages from like trans girls and boys saying like thank you so

much like you've really helped me be able to like come out and speak to my parents about being trans and I just think like if I can help someone like that even though what I do is like like very comedy based I do get serious as well and I talk about important stuff so it's if I can help people like that because I used to do that I used to watch like Gigi Gorgeous and like other trans YouTubers when I was younger and be like oh I really want to be like them one day and the fact that I'm kind of almost doing the same for them is like it really it's like a good fulfillment for me so I don't worry about the hate if I'm helping people in my community then fuck the fucking yeah then that's most I think there needs to be more people like you in the industry because a lot of people who would feel I guess trapped would look for someone

like you to look up to yeah and it would make them feel more accepted. I think it's really important. And have their questions answered as well, I guess. Yeah, 100%. I think it's good to, and I do try and reply to, when like people DM me about it, like I do try and reply to as many as I can to say like, this is, I'm not a therapist by all means at all.

Like I don't have all the answers, but with what knowledge I can give, I can like speak about it online and try and help other people. Because it is, like it is a really like rubbish thing to go to especially if you don't have um the right support system around you and luckily I did but I couldn't like it's hard enough with that I couldn't imagine what it'd be like without having like supportive parents or like a supportive school and stuff like that because it's fucking like hard it's really hard feeling that way but it's you know it's important to have some people to at least understand what you're going through yeah definitely and what's your like your family and stuff have they always because they

sound like they're obviously just the most supportive like fun going family have they always been like that they've always been like the most supportive like they're so supportive they're so amazing yeah they're really they're really great and like we're all really close there's only four of us there's a very small family um but my sister and I are like best friends like I love her to peace she's just gone off to Liverpool uni and I was like literally crying I know bless her um but yeah no we're really close my whole family are very supportive and my extended family as well which I'm really lucky like I'm really lucky that like my nan and my granddad and stuff like they're all just amazing they do really look out for me so it's nice it's really

yeah that's so nice and a lot of trans most trans people don't have that support network that's what I was about to say like it you know we're like speaking for all of us here we're all so lucky that we all have really loving supportive families that we're all clearly close to our families 100% we I think sometimes

I don't even realise how lucky I am because I know there's so many people that like just don't have that so especially if we're going

through something as well and all you want is just somebody to be there do you know what I mean imagine having that pressure as well that your family aren't going to accept you

for like a certain reason yeah 100% it's horrible no it's really horrible I couldn't imagine what it's like so I am very grateful for them always Imagine having that pressure as well that your family aren't going to accept you for like a certain reason. Yeah, 100%. No, it's really horrible. I couldn't imagine what it's like. So I am very grateful for them always. They're the best. Cute. I thought that was so awesome.

Love it. Okay, so you guys actually sent in some um little stories about cuffing season this one got with a guy in november did all the cute christmas stuff in december sent each other presents two days after new year's eve he got back with his ex cuff coughing season gone wrong oh that is awful do you think the other girl knew surely must have obviously it was a crossover again two days after new year's eve and they got they got first of january so when did they get back together sorry november november and then all the cute christmas stuff in December and they got each other presents so when did he get back with his ex 1st of January

so basically new year new him yeah when he first met her in last year I would honestly yeah

so he literally just wanted the coffin season no there was something going on there was definitely a crossover but also like why is he

like why would he even want that he had to get her a present what's the point do you know what I mean who's got so much energy the fact that he even got her like the fact that

they even exchanged presents that's he clearly wanted a fucking gift or something like that that's so I would honestly his tires would not be working he literally just wanted someone

for December then just wanted but then he got back with his ex anyway there must have been a crossover though surely there had to have been a then he got back with his ex anyway there must have been a crossover though surely there had to have been

a crossover or just stayed with his ex the whole time and just not let this other girl on that is weird do you think like and I really don't mean this

in a rude way but do you think it was just like a rebound thing that he just oh I'll be with someone over Christmas probably oh I'd be fuming

I'd be so angry yeah no I would have gone on a rampage oh that's actually sad that's so bad so what is the best advice that you have for someone after I chat about I'd be fuming. I'd be so angry. Yeah, no, I would have gone to a rampage. Oh, that's actually sad. That's so bad. So what is the best advice that you have for someone after I chat about cuffing season and naked acceptance?

Okay, I'll give two pieces of advice. My first advice, in all seriousness, be single because it's better and have fun. But I'll be taking that advice. Yes. But if you do want to get in a relationship, don't put any, I mean, I'm definitely not a relationship expert,

but just don't put too much pressure on yourself um people will be if someone wants to be with you they'll be with you because of you so don't pretend to be someone else you're not and don't try to be someone just because it's them be your complete yourself because they'll find out anyway you know I mean you can't fake it for that long so from someone who definitely was not happy with themselves looking in the mirror naked for you know 21 plus years you know it's okay it's okay to sometimes everyone says oh you need to love yourself you need to love yourself but like it's actually okay to look in the mirror and it's okay not to feel that way sometimes it's okay to be like I'm not I don't know how to explain it because like it's so important to love yourself and that's such an important thing but don't put

pressure on yourself to look a certain way or be a certain way it's okay feel a certain way exactly you you've got to love yourself for who you are and sometimes that's really hard and i know that's so annoying when people say i said well fuck you like i don't feel like that right now and then when everyone used to say that to me before i had my op and it was like yeah but there's things i can't change and it's horrible so it's okay to not feel 100% all the time and it's okay just as long as you're looking after yourself working on yourself then that's all okay sometimes it's actually okay to not be okay absolutely oh well thank you so much honestly this is yeah just been so nice and thank you both for having me I love you both a lot so remember to slide

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