Sex, Lies & DM Slides - 8: Buying your first vibrator and training for the ultimate orgasm with Coco and Cheyenne
Episode Date: November 29, 2022The bombshells have entered the villa… Love Island’s Cheyanne Kerr and Coco Lodge are on this week’s episode and we are absolutely buzzing! And GIRL, our chat was unfiltered; from sex positions ...to self pleasure and more! Sex, Lies and DM Slides is a Spotify Original podcast. Produced by Spirit Studios with Raymond Tannor and Kate Willis as the producers and from Spotify the Executive Producer is Rhyanna Coleman. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hey guys, I am Anastasia Kingsnorth.
And I'm Safran Barker and welcome to Sex Lies and DM Slides.
So each week we invite a guest onto the show to delve into their DMs,
to spill the tea, to discuss sex, dating experiences,
and all of the topics in between, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Now, no DM is off limits and believe me, no topic is off limits in today's episode.
We were joined by Cheyenne and Coco from Love Island and we we spoke everything types, sex positions, how to make yourself finish.
We spoke about that a lot.
Yeah, today's episode, I think, is probably like the most,
I don't want to say like TMI, but I feel like the most we like covered.
We delved.
We delved.
We delved. Just delved. We delved.
Just get ready for this one.
And of course, we invite you guys to slide into our DMs of stories of your own.
So send us the craziest DM you've ever received or a funny story about your own sex or dating life that you guys want to share.
Let's just get straight into it.
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Okay, so we always jump straight into the podcast with what is your guys' relationship status? Because Anna and I are very single. The most single I've ever been in my whole
entire life.
Really?
Yeah, like three months celibate
like unintentional as well yeah no I'm single as well that makes me happy that we're all single
because I feel like we can have a really good conversation today yeah yeah it's gonna be juicy
okay so obviously you guys were on this year's love island did you both apply to be on the
island no scouted yeah both of us
what happened do you just get a message yeah you just well it's like i remember thinking that mine
were fake and they don't actually say it's for love island they say it's for a dating show don't
they they say it's for like an itv show yeah but i never even thought it will love island not that
i like went through weird not thinking it will love island like i got to know more information
first and then.
I went to see a psychic and they were like,
you're going to go on a show where you're in a bikini.
And at the time I was going to do Married at First Sight.
And I was like, no, I'm doing a wedding show.
He was like, don't choose the wedding one.
And I was like, yeah.
So is that the only reason you didn't choose Married at First Sight? No, I was also just got out of this like slightly interesting relationship where I was an absolute
mess so I went to Thailand when I should have started filming for um Married at First Sight
like my wedding should have been the day I went to Thailand oh wow and then it's such a weird
concept but I love that show I love it I've never even watched it oh you should watch it it's so
good yeah no it's so dramatic so you could have been married well no it's not like a legal marriage you're really single yeah
i actually found out which one my husband was so i might send him a dm later maybe i'll do
oh that's so weird you actually found out who your husband was gonna be one of the other cast
someone told them so i know who it was do you think he's attractive he's not too bad
would you have been happy if you married him yeah he's a stripper wow wait that literally gave it
away yeah that's so funny that you know i mean he could be lying the person who told me but
yeah it makes sense that is my type so would you guys consider doing other reality shows i wouldn't i would okay you both need to give your reasons why
i want to know why you wouldn't yeah no i've well i never said that i'd do a love island anyway we're
only like when i told my family and stuff they were all like yeah do it and like all my friends
were like yeah why would you not and then i kind of just like went with the flow of like doing it
but i never would have seen myself being on like tv doing that sort of thing and I don't know I'm like quite like things just happen and fall into place like
if you went on a show you it's like tinder like I just I've never downloaded tinder or like used
it because I just feel like I want to just meet someone just very naturally but like I don't know
I just would never choose to do it again yeah like being put myself in that
position but you don't regret it oh no I don't regret it at all like I'm so glad I did it
but I wouldn't like do it again yeah did you have a good experience overall yeah on the show yeah
like I don't regret it at all I'm so glad I did it but I just wouldn't do any other like tv show
or anything okay I don't know it depends if it were like a fun one like if it weren't like towards like would you do married at first sight
yeah do it yeah no yeah do it for the wedding you can be with flower girls i'm not four years old
i'm all right okay so coco you said you would do another show yeah what would you what's your
dream show I feel like Love Island was really toxic to be honest and I feel like the way it
was like you're used as a ball in someone else's game if you come in late like they already know
who's going to be in the final so I don't feel like my like true personality got across so I
would love to do something else where I could like be myself because I got so much hate for being
such a villain such a nasty person so I would rather do something where I can show like actually who I am
I'd love to do Big Brother but I feel like I can't believe it's coming back yeah yeah I'm so happy
that I feel like it won't be the same as it used to be like Tiffany's not gonna call Gemma a fat
you know like it was so good back in the day yeah but you could go on there and change all of that
no I think they'd tell you off these days duty of care so do you genuinely believe they know
who's in the final i've always said this they know who's in the final you genuinely believe
that yeah i think it's all set up like yeah okay like literally 100 before you went in did they
kind of like tell you who to go for like give you nudges on like this person they
give you nudges in there which i don't think i've ever said before but they give you nudges yeah
see yeah that's one thing i find so weird but when they give you nothing you should be able to decide
yourself right do they do the producers actually come in the villa um yeah there is people there
like you will sometimes go out and speak to one of producers but i always say like when i've seen
like other interviews and stuff yeah the producers might like nudge you to do some like something
but they're not like forcing you to do anything like if you don't want to do something if you
don't want to speak to that person you don't have to like if you are genuinely going in there to
like be true to yourself like when I were in there I I were like more thinking like that's not me so I'm not gonna not be me in front
of like millions of people on a tv show like I remember like one at times they told me to do
something with the jack situation I'm like I'm not doing it I don't want to do it I wouldn't do it
like no matter yeah I would have to be true to myself I couldn't do something they'd tell me to
do yeah but I guess would I don't know do you guys think that if you didn't do sometimes what they wanted you therefore thought oh well they're then gonna get rid of
me or kick me out yeah I mean I never thought that because I just thought I'd rather not be
true to myself yeah than look stupid on television like not that I'm not like bothered about like
looking stupid but I remember like thinking I wouldn't do that like I wouldn't choose to do
that so you're not gonna do it yeah and also like you'll be sitting at home and seeing like you know another girl do that and think oh
why would she do that yeah you don't want to be that girl when you wouldn't do that yeah no i feel
like i would do it you maybe just are made for tv then the thing is some people just made for it
like some people can just do it and i honestly do think that is like a skill yeah I mean I actually didn't really do much that they would tell me to do like a lot
of it was like organic but like I was crying once outside the villa and they were like no more sad
bitch you need to go in there and be a bad bitch and I was like okay I'll be a bad bitch thinking
yeah I'm gonna come across as a strong empowered woman and everyone on the outside was just like
she's just a bitch like not a not a bad bitch, just a bitch.
So, yeah, you kind of have to be careful because they're trying to portray you as well,
how they want you to be portrayed for that storyline.
Okay, so coming out of the show, how do guys approach you both now?
Like, do they say like, oh, you're so-and-so from Love Island?
Do you get more attention? Do you get less attention?
Like, how has it all been since coming out?
I feel like when we're together,'s like more noticeable in it yeah we both said that like if you're speaking
to a guy and it's happened to us a couple of times when guys ask us about the show and say oh how did
like how did it work and it's just such a like a put off in it because you think that they're only
speaking to you because they want to go on show and they want to do it.
So they're like asking you to like...
There was a guy in Ibiza
and I was like getting with him
and really fancied him.
And he was like,
so you're going to help me apply for Love Island?
Oh, that is such an ick.
No, that is such a fuck.
Immediate turn off.
I was like, honey, I didn't even apply.
Why would he just ruin everything?
It was just literally using me.
Like, at least give it like a month.
Like, be clever.
Yeah, because people were saying to me like, do you feel like now that you've got to be careful
with like boys and stuff because people might just be speaking to you and i'm like no not really like
but then when people do that it's like oh yeah like they actually are just probably speaking
to you just to see if like get a bit of an inside gloss on how you actually got on the show and i'm
like yeah just do it i can't believe that that he said
that to you that's yeah he said that yeah that is weirdo that literally gave me the full vibe
killer and he wasn't even like that fit like i was literally settling for like what was okay and i
mean and the thing is it wasn't even like it wasn't even like he was just asking trying to get gossip
he's actually asking he was getting with you how he can apply for the show himself. He's like, you're going to help me, yeah?
And I was like, yeah, absolutely not.
You were too nice there.
I'm actually going to message the producers with your name
and say, don't ever let this guy get on.
Do you guys still speak to anybody from the show?
I'm still in a group chat with quite a lot of the Islanders.
You left it, didn't you?
I don't think I've ever been in a group chat.
Yeah, you were in that Instagram i've ever been yeah you were
in that instagram one the oh yeah i left that yeah can i ask yeah i don't know why you left
i just feel like um not in particular that group but i feel like a lot of people turned against me
after the show for no reason who i feel like personally i was helping other people like on
the public's opinion do you think that's why they turned on you? Potentially, or they just wanted like a bit of clout or whatever.
People pleasing.
Wanted like news articles about them.
Like I didn't need to try to be in the press then
because the press picked up on me because I was this villain.
Everything I say would end up in the press anyway.
Whereas all these people started picking things
when I don't actually think personally I'd done anything wrong.
I was just helping.
Like I had people literally living with me from the show. I feel like after that I was just like actually I'm only gonna associate
myself with people who I think are genuine and actually who I could see myself being friends
with in like five years time which is why obviously I'm still friends with you and like
literally like one other really do you not speak to anybody else wow I won't like if I see them
I'll be like you're right but I'm not I can't fake it for like the clout or whatever you know yeah like you're civil like that sort of like
friends but you're just not gonna go out your way to like yeah i wouldn't even say friends just like
yeah i know you from a show like you see someone you know from school like you're right oh wow
it's so crazy because i feel like you both had such different experiences yeah like my mom said
to me when we came out at show because like i don't think i've ever actually told you this
i was like why are you hanging out with her she went i'm so surprised that your mates
you're joking no she doesn't hate you but i feel like you're very like sexual yeah it was like but maybe I am my mum just didn't
see that I'm extremely extra extroverted and loud and but like everything I say is facts and people
can't handle that like because I'm not like fake everything I say is facts but like I remember can
you remember like the last day at villa before like I left when we had that like proper heart
twat around fire thing and like I was telling my mum about that and I was saying like no like Coco was really the only person that I were like proper like
getting along with you don't feel like it's fake or forced it was just nice so yeah oh that's cute
does your mum like me now now I am on facetime to her and I be for and she's like this no she's never doing that okay so this week we're going
to talk about types and sex positions really well and we just want to be really fun to talk about
this so we first of all obviously this is that proper girl chat here proper girl chat but coco
we saw on tiktok that you said your type was someone who has a criminal record a love bombing narcissists and a receding hairline. Well, I mean, you know.
True.
Please explain.
Is that actually your type?
Yeah, I've actually dated someone with all three of those things.
I mean, that's actually a bit mean because I think he actually had a hair problem, like
a loss problem.
But also, yeah, he was all those things.
And that is my type.
Narcissistic.
So you basically go for all the red flags?
Yeah, all the red flags. Yeah, basically. They look things. And that is my type. Narcissistic. So you basically go for all the red flags? Yeah, all the red flags.
Yeah, basically.
If they look like they'll ruin my life,
I will be in love with you.
Okay, so if they hate me, I love you.
Yeah.
The guys who love me, I am horrible to.
And the guys who hate me
and treat me like a piece of dirt on their shoe,
I'm like so nice to.
And I'll literally like buy them Spardes.
I'm actually so opposite. I feel like i'm the only like one of like i feel like every girl loves a red flag if i
see one red flag i'm out the door well you need to teach me yeah but maybe i need a bit of both
though because i think i'm just like i love people that are just but sometimes the red flags get you
like hooked a little bit because it makes you like want to change it. I want a bit more like,
yeah.
And you think I can be the girl that can change them.
Yeah.
Daddy issues basically.
Yeah.
Literally.
Okay.
Try and watch your time.
Um,
I always have not really like got a type,
but then all my mates like,
yeah,
you are.
Of course.
I think you have a time.
So like,
do you think you could actually say my time?
Looks wise.
What would it be?
Um, I like it when a boy has got nice eyes. You go, I think you could actually say my type? Looks-wise, what would it be?
I like it when a boy's got nice eyes.
I think you go for a pretty boy.
It's weird, though, because if I said that,
I'd be like, ooh, no, no, a pretty boy.
But I like it when someone's got to be taller than me.
Like, I feel like I struggle to see a boy that's, like, past 5'8 these days.
You're quite tall, though.
Because I'm 5'7, I feel like if I've got got heels on they need to be taller than me yeah um and then i feel like personality is just probably
the main thing like not like i'd rather like get to know someone first and like them for the
personality than like looks but obviously like attraction and stuff's got to be there so
and like i don't like bad teeth as well. Oh, I always look at teeth. Teeth are so important.
And shoes as well.
Yeah, and do you know what?
Well, all my friends know me, it's hands as well.
Like if they don't have like, I can't explain, like good like.
I know what you mean.
Like big, like I love veiny arms.
Yeah, veiny arms.
So if it's not like proper manly, it's like a, yeah.
Oh my God, I was once seeing this guy with the smallest hands.
It's weirdly off putting though when you see like a guy with really small hands and a guy with tiny hands.
What about guys that like actually manicure like their nails?
Oh no.
Like keep them in good shape?
That's good.
That's a no for me.
Oh.
No.
No, like.
Really?
That's good.
Well grown.
But the thing is like.
Yeah, I like it.
One of my friends, she's like, the smallest thing like, she said if he's got a tiny stud earring,
like that I'd be no i wouldn't
be able to go there and i'm like but you can just take it out yeah like that wouldn't put me off a
guy like i would be like no but i'm not like picky at all like but yeah she's like no i'd just be
done i'd be done if you were but you can change that even dress sense like obviously dress sense
is attractive yeah but also if i see someone in a bad outfit i might mean i can change
that yeah like that's easy i wouldn't be attracted to someone yeah no this is the thing if their
dress sense was really bad i feel like i'd be like like i would never fancy them loads i'm sorry but
personally i don't like skinny jeans on a boy no no white jeans and white jeans the other day i
saw this guy i swear to you in white cap white t-shirt white jeans white shoes
and I don't even think
he was going to
like a white party
because it was literally
along the beach
like I was
I'm looking at him
Monday morning
white party
oh it was so weird
I was thinking
is he okay
I know like
someone needs to tell him
surely
do you know what
I think is really risky as well
do you know if you like
see a boy at gym
that's good looking
and then you see them outside like I think a gym boy is like they cannot have
like they could look good in gym because it's like just gym wearing it everyone was good in gym
yeah yeah and like but then the dress sense like out of gym it's like never thought about that
before but that is so true yeah no i do think about that because i fancy so many people in my gym there's so many good looking guys
and I yes so many good guys and then I see them like sometimes they walk in and they're in normal
clothes I'm like oh oh no you look better in your gym outfit okay so let's just get straight on into
it do you guys have a favorite sex position um I have a favorites with different men.
Each guy I've been with,
like there's been a better sex position with them. Do you know what?
I can actually vouch for this.
Like I don't think,
I think like every guy I've been with,
it's always been like a different,
yeah,
it's been like a different experience.
It depends on the shape and size.
No, it does.
That's like a genuine thing. Oh no, you just put last Anna you ask the question do you um I kind of weirdly agree with what you're saying I feel
like sometimes I like doggy sometimes I like missionary just depends on mood you're in really
missionary is quite good I just know a dog I know I know all the six positions. What was the next?
No, you do know other ones.
No, I swear to God. So every time you're just
reading those from behind.
But do you know how to know the names?
Yeah.
That's like me.
I don't really know the names.
No.
Do you know when we were in Love Island?
The one with the legs.
And we did,
that was,
and it makes your belly look horrible
and you're like.
Yeah, we did that challenge.
I know the one.
And you had to do like sex positions.
I don't think,
and honestly,
if I get that,
like I wouldn't have a clue. Oh, is this when they called out the sex position yeah half the time i swear
one time they said something like oh people come out with some weird animal or something that i'd
never heard of in my life like the eagle or something yeah it's like something like that
and i remember spread the wings no i think it is spread the wings is that what it is though
you actually don't know
the names
no honestly
I've not got a clue
but who knows the names
none of us use those
I sound like such a virgin
when it comes to sex positions
no but I feel like
when you're in the virgin
you don't go
okay put me in reverse cargo
no
exactly
exactly
no I feel like
I have had guys say that
they're like
do reverse cargo
I'm like
no I'm lazy
oh my god
yeah that is so true that is so funny imagine someone go do the eagles
oh my god the flaps love it
okay so we spoke about sex missions how about foreplay do you think foreplay is
important or would you rather just go straight into it oh yeah i think it's the most important
part i do i think for girls i'm sorry not even gonna lie i don't think a lot of guys bother
with it no because guys can just have sex without even like doing anything like i was in this
conversation when it wasn't girls or the day and she was saying like a boyfriend he literally could
just do it
and then it's like
done but like
girls need a bit of it
no
no
because you need to
lube it up
no that's a genuine thing
it's not going to be
do you know what
guys should actually
any guys that's listened
to this
you should actually
realize how important it is
because me and all my
girlfriends always have
this conversation
like it is
I mean
I think it's better than sex
do you know what I've just actually thought mean i think it's you know what i've
just i literally think it's better than sex the girl who i was talking to about this day she said
that she had to explain to her boyfriend what foreplay actually is oh wow so maybe boys don't
even know where it is and she's already made him her boyfriend that is poor yeah so like but he's
done no foreplay up until this point three years
so let me tell you about this finger
like how long has she been with him yeah i think like three years silly silly girl
three years down the line yeah and we were saying like about foreplay we were literally having this
conversation saying like how important it is and she was like i literally explained to explain to
her boyfriend what it actually meant i felt like foreplay is the most like intimate part almost because you're
really like i don't know yeah because i feel like that's all the tensions there yeah you're building
the sexual tension rather than getting straight into it so three years down the line you still
haven't done that i think they've done it but he just didn't understand like what it actually meant
so if she was saying like yeah she was saying so as she said like what fore it actually meant. Oh, that's different. Yeah, so she said, like, what foreplay actually is.
He didn't understand what it actually meant.
Right, okay.
But they were still doing it, I was going to say.
Yeah.
Thank God.
Okay, what's the worst sex position?
That one where your, like, legs are...
Is that the...
No, but it feels good.
The one that you just said.
No, but it feels nice.
Where your legs are, like, up.
Yeah.
Imagine how ugly you're looking at this. Yeah, for me um doggy does nothing really yeah i'm just
like they're like loving it but i literally like yeah no nothing i thought that's every guy's
favorite though yeah it's just every guy you know they just say it because it's that's every guy's favorite though. Yeah, it is. It's just every guy. I don't know if they just say it because it's easy,
but every guy I've ever known is always,
do you know what I mean?
Always doggy.
Always, yeah.
Yeah, I feel like it's the more popular one in it.
I feel like if I want,
I don't know if this is quite,
but if I feel like if I want them to finish quickly
or if I'm done and I want them to finish,
I'll be like, yeah, doggy.
They come really quick in that.
Okay, so let's talk about the orgasm gap right because obviously
it's a pretty much well-known fact that men can technically finish a lot quicker than women
yeah if okay let's just talk personal it takes me ages to finish i'm gonna be honest
i can't do i can't do it quick you need to train your body okay i can make i can make myself
but a man can't there's a book i read when i was
younger because i never used to feel like that kind of pleasure during sex and i read this book
i can't remember what it's called i've got it saved on my phone and i read this book and it
teaches you to train your like vagina i've never heard of this i think you've told me this yeah
yeah so i i can finish very quickly I'm very good
wow
at finishing
all from this book
all from this book
but it has like
exercises to do in it
I was gonna say that
how do you train your vagina
to do that
there's like
different exercises
like
oh god
demonstrate
she's on all fours
like
I don't know
if I want to say
but there's
there's different exercises
let's just say that
that you can do
with your vagina
wow
wow okay
like you can even finish
without
like anything
touching your vagina
just from your like
oh I don't think
I could do that
you can mentally
make yourself finish
you can mentally
make yourself cum
it's the same as like do that. What meant you can mentally make yourself finish? You can mentally make yourself cum.
It's the same as like a wet dream.
Like, yeah, you can, genuinely.
I thought that you'd have to be in the mindset. But you're all looking at me like, what, a freak?
No, but I just feel like you'd have to be in the mindset to do that.
No, you're all looking at me like I'm a freak.
No, like I don't just sit there and do it right.
You're like, just give me five minutes.
Mentally from time to time.
And it literally takes hours hours but it is a thing
yeah it can take hours you just have to like lie on the bed and like yeah but i don't do it often
like i have never done it since this exercise it was years ago but i was so sick of having sex and
feeling nothing i thought this is not what people are so excited to have when you're younger like
no it's true i literally live on own, and we were having this conversation
before we got here.
I live on my own,
single,
and I've never owned a sex toy.
You've not owned a sex toy?
No, have you?
Yeah.
I have a vibrator.
Yeah, I have.
I've never owned one.
Like, I've,
literally,
she would, like,
tell everyone to get,
she would, like,
yeah, you need this one,
I've got.
She would, like,
send him a link.
I love mine.
I mean,
I don't have a collection. I definitely don't have a collection. Yeah, no. I've got I love mine I don't have a collection
I definitely don't have a collection
I've got two
I literally wouldn't know where to start if I went to Catlon
I like the one that like blows air at your clip
oh I've seen those
that is very nice
the sucky one
it's great
I just like the little like vibrators
or like the bullet vibrators
I don't know if you've seen those
yeah I've seen them yeah
the fact that you live on your own and you haven't picked
you need to treat yourself
get yourself on love
my parcels always go to me like next door
my neighbour and she's like really old
and I'm thinking do you know if you are the one
do you think you should open it up
no they're discreetly packaged
you can get them on like nasty gal like for a little thing I didn't
want it to become like love when you're like wrapped up Halloween costume
it's like this big yeah it's just a fog
I'll sort you out of the advent calendar oh my god oh yeah
wait don't let your mom watch this she'll hate me
please don't let her no honestly my how bad is this on um do you know them like interview
questions that we've got when like all the weird places you've had sex i feel like having
sex in like right weird places god Go on, where's this coming?
Where's the weirdest place you've had sex?
Honestly, there's been some like.
Where?
Where's the weirdest?
Just like, I don't know, just random places,
like a nightclub, like a bypass,
like little like lay-by thing.
In the car.
A nightclub.
I feel like everyone's done it in a nightclub.
And like.
I have not had sex in a nightclub.
But when it were on television.
Everyone.
I don't think everyone has.
But yeah,
my little cousin,
she like,
rewound the telly
and then like,
played it for like,
all my family to listen.
She was like,
oh,
listen to what she's just said.
So my mum was like, listen to it. I'm like, oh yeah, they just made me say that just for like, a bit more juicy she was like oh listen to what she's just said so my mum was like
listen to it oh yeah they just made me say that just for like a bit more juicy they made you say
that all the places that i've had sex and like and i just told my mum after i was like oh yeah
they just made me say that because oh really what's the weirdest place you've had sex
probably like on a like on a bypass thing when i was on holiday once and there was so many
people it was so bad but very drunk probably there in a car no just lying on basically we was on
oh god jesus christ it's not like a quad bike something you know it's just got so much i don't know actually that is no yeah well bucket list you know like if you went to like an island like you can't there
isn't really cars so you have to have like a quad bike that sort of vibe none of any of you guys
part of the mile high club no no i don't understand you are i mean i've touched myself on a plane
no my little high club is having sex on a plane yeah yeah yeah no i've never had sex on a plane
but i've like done other things so i've done other things but i haven't had sex okay i just
done things to myself then you fingered yourself yeah all you need to do is have blankets it's not
my heart i've been to a lot of
long haul places
ladies like juice or water They're like, what can we do to dissent? You're like, wait.
No, I swear.
Someone's going to think you're like having weird dreams when they go past you on your faces.
I swear I haven't.
Oh, my God.
Oh, God, how did I get to this?
You're going to buy chicken and beef.
Oh, my God.
Give me five minutes two hours
give me two hours
oh god
I feel like every time
someone sees me
on a plane now
they're going to be
concerned
everyone's going to be like
don't ask her
which one's the dinner
just keep going
I feel like no guy
is ever going to
date me again
they're going to think I'm constantly
doing stuff to my face
if anyone sees you sitting by yourself
you're going to be like is she mentally okay
by the way I'm not doing it right now
I'm not even sure I could anymore
I do want to
read this book
though
because I'm
enjoying it
you've got to
tell me this book
it's great
what is it called
it's called
something like
you gave so much
hype about this book
and you don't even
know the name
it's like the female
guide to orgasm
it's something really
basic like that
honestly I'll get it
it's on my
Apple book
I haven't read it since I when you it it's on my Apple book I haven't read it
since I
probably
when you read it
probably like
when I just started
having like
sex a lot
so like
actually not long ago
like 21 22
oh
right okay
I'm 27 now
yeah but like
one of my friends
as well
she's never
conned
well
a boy has never
officially really
made me finish
like I've been like
very close
but like the full
like way
I don't think
I ever have
right you need
this book
yeah
like seriously
don't tell her that
though because
we're sharing a room
tonight and I don't
want to
I don't want to
see her
you wake up
I'm sat up in bed
on my own
and finally
she's possessed
I think that exercise
is quite far along
because it's quite advanced
so yeah
you've got a lot of time
just please read it though
like in a few minutes time
guys sorry
I want to go back
to the mile hike up thing
just because I'm really curious
because I always think to myself
like how do people
actually do bits on planes
I think a load of people
well
I think doing bits is fine
a blanket
it's not that hard
but actually having sex I feel like loads of people are just bits is fine a blanket it's not that hard but actually having sex
I feel like loads of people
are just chatting shit
because
I do
the bathroom no
yeah but
don't they always watch you
like go in and out
there's like
even in business class
the toilet is pretty much
the same
like you'd have to be
almost first class
on Emirates
where you actually
have your own bathroom
yeah
otherwise there is
I just can't see how.
Yeah.
Like, I've worked on planes
and, like, everyone, like, checks toilets,
like, every so often as well.
And if you saw, like,
if you were to see someone going in toilet at the same time,
you'd, like, you'd obviously check.
And also, Q's always massive.
How's your shit?
Yeah.
Is that the level you haven't seen?
Can I join?
I really want to join the Mahacca please let me in yeah but as oh yeah the queue is always like well when i used to work for like a low-cost airline
it's like you were always massive but i feel like people are gonna do it they'll probably do it
yeah on a bigger class one but i feel like obviously then
people's gonna see you i'd just hate walking out and then like i just it'd just be so obvious and
it get have you ever watched snakes on a plane no i've heard of that i have seen it years ago
and the two people go in a toilet to have sex like my life club and a snake comes out at fire alarm and bites her on tip.
And honestly,
like that just hit me.
Well,
new fear unlocked.
It's so bad
and imagine how much
that hurts.
Oh God.
Snake bit my tip
or whatever.
Oh my God.
Iconic.
It wasn't a true story though give it our iconic what is this conversation oh god it's a lot it is a lot i'm so here for that this is like
literally a girl's conversation without like cameras yeah this is so real like do you know
what i always feel like boys think that girls don't speak about stuff like this don't they they always yeah what do you speak about
sex and like that's all me and my mates are like guys just must not then because you would think
yeah yeah i feel like they like they do it like as in like they're just in a cocky way yeah they
speak about it in a very different way to how women speak yeah yeah they're like a banter
yeah yeah literally this is why when you watch shows women speak about yeah yeah they're like i banged her yeah yeah
literally this is why when you watch shows like love island like when they're having conversations
about liking girls like that's not in the real world they'll be like i want to bang her like
it's not like i love her she's so lovely yeah she's a nice personality boys don't speak that
yeah i feel like if a guy went over to his mates, the first thing he'd say is like, oh, did you fuck her? Yeah.
Yeah, that's like, whereas like girls,
they'll speak about like it in a nicer way, won't they?
Yeah.
Sometimes.
Sometimes.
Depends on the size.
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Okay, you know what? Enough sex talk.
I want to read your guys' DMs.
This is called Sex, Lies and DM Slides, so we, you know.
It's okay, we're prepared.
Who's going first?
I'll take your phone then, Saf can take
her, guys.
Can you just swipe it? So this guy has messaged her saying, It was going first. I'll take your phone then, so I can take her, guys. Yeah, I'm going to take your phone.
Why can't you just swipe it?
So this guy has messaged her saying,
how does 7pm Friday work?
Novakov sound.
I'll pick you up at yours.
You're still driving in Chelsea.
I drive.
I've just got a new car.
A new book?
Was this meant for me?
I don't live in Chelsea.
And also, I pied him off.
But then,
he doesn't just send a meme
that says this could be us but i'm
glad it isn't it's of a pregnant woman and a guy hugging the pregnant belly like what the fuck
yeah what a freak how weird so i said you're a freak and you put no you're odd
babe this is why the dms are dry this is how you're responding yeah i'm sorry he's someone
i used to see like i've clearly that is weird that is weird very and then i said you need like help
that you need help i mean yeah i can actually agree with that with that mean that he's sending
i'm psycho but i still don't do things like that i'll do it on a fake account
okay question what's the most psycho thing you've ever done oh gosh loads oh i don't know i actually because like how psycho i don't think
i've ever really done a psycho no i'm not really a psycho i'm just not really that no i'm not a
psycho kind of girl i think probably the worst thing i've done is like rocked up to theirs like
without them knowing just like rocking i don't even think I've done that yeah I've not done I used to pretend to walk to work to a place that wasn't my work every day so I could walk past
this guy so every day at like 8am I'd walk past and be like yeah just going to work and then I'd
have to get on another tube and I'd be late and would you actually see each other yeah sometimes
and sometimes he'd say hello sometimes he'd ignore me oh yeah
that's like cute psycho though that's not like psycho psycho cute psycho that she's made up a
holding occupation going to that job very cute it's not that cute it's very odd yeah
okay we've got a dm here this is actually from a tiktoker not gonna name him but it's a tiktoker
and he just slid in with a chat up line but i'm we're gonna see we're gonna have to try and finish
it because i don't get it he just said are you a terry's chocolate orange and you didn't reply
no it's got to be slice or something do you know what i mean oh yeah because i want a slice yeah
yeah so like i'll wrap it and then have you seen that as well when people put like someone's messaged me before
weird dog emoji and then they put oh sorry come like it runs off sometimes i've never had that
no i've seen that though i don't think like if a pickup line's ever worked like i've never
witnessed it or like i've never seen yeah i don't respond to no i just find them so cringy if the
guys fit I would respond
but then I feel like if he were using a pick up line
he wouldn't be fit
yeah no he wouldn't
literally you'd have to slide in
okay we've got another one here
G'day Shay
surely Love Island season 9
might jump on myself
and we could like sneak off onto the terrace
and stuff
so another clout chase yeah literally this is what I mean Might jump on myself and we could like sneak off onto the terrace and stuff.
So another clout chaser.
Yeah, literally, this is what I mean.
It's like, so do you just want to get on the show or is it like... Is he fit?
No, I don't think so.
No, not my type.
No, I actually never reply.
Even if I think they're like slightly good looking, I don't reply because I just can't be asked yeah he's cute it's not no he's cute oh like he would treat you well
why don't you message him absolutely not I don't like the ones that treat you well
okay question did you get any blue ticks in your dms um yeah I did it's coming out the show
did you only jesse n, but not in a way.
No, I actually was well impressed with mine.
I was in when I'd seen it.
Yeah, no, I didn't.
I got Jedward, who was just, like, sending me jokes.
And then I got Jessie Nelson sending, like, a nice message about trolling.
That's it.
Oh, that's cute.
Yeah, but that's so nice of her.
But no, no boys fancy me.
Because everyone called me the ugly one on the show. No one was going to swoop in. I was waiting for Ovi, like, every day. Refreshing. that's it oh that's cute yeah but that's so nice of her but no no boys fancy me because everyone
called me the ugly one on the show no one's gonna swoop in i was waiting for ovie like every day
refreshing never happened joking but also still refreshing
you got bootix right um yeah yeah no i did get i feel like everyone because of the old like jack
situation so many guys like
were putting the chat up line is like oh I would have chose you or like oh do you know like that
sort of thing but then yes you were name them as you know ring no like one
I don't know I feel like I'm very much like I just I don't like that footballer
personality but he wore a footballer but he is fair right right okay but yeah no I'm just not
no I just I feel like it's bad to say like they're all the same but they are yeah they are like
we've had this conversation so many times.
I can tell as well, like, my first ever boyfriend were a footballer
and if I were to see a guy in the street,
I'd be able to say, like, he's a footballer.
Really?
Like, without even speaking to him, I swear to God,
because I could just tell, like, the way that they dress
and, like, the way that they act, the way that they walk,
I feel like they're all just...
The way they walk.
Yeah, I just feel like they're all just the same.
So, yeah.
But even though, like, some like some can be like quite fit,
like, oh my God,
I'm watching,
who were it that played the other day?
Chelsea against Aston Villa.
And oh my God,
that team like combined is just fit.
Honestly.
Were you watching for the football for them?
I watched it for football,
but then when I'd seen players on.
Do you like football?
Yeah, no, I do like football.
I like to watch it and stuff.
My mum and my brother and stuff.
But yeah.
Okay, let's flip the question then.
Have you guys slid into anybody else's DMs?
I don't know why, I'm just like...
I don't think I did.
I've not got this like, I would never do it,
but I'm just like...
Yeah, because I'm curious,
because I used to have not really any shame
in messaging people first,
and now I feel like I wouldn't
because you put me off massively when we had a conversation that's not fair we had
a conversation about it really opened my eyes to like oh okay my reasons as to why you shouldn't
yeah okay yeah so I feel like I personally wouldn't I have a big thing as to where like
if you message them first they've already got like I've I've got her sort of vibe because they didn't have to work for
you in the first place so if you're messaging them first they already know that they've got you
yeah they know that you like them probably more than you they like you that makes sense so like
i also don't have like i don't have shame in it i would do if i really liked someone but i'm like
i also i don't know i just also think it's so much more attractive if a guy can just message
you first yeah i feel like a lot of guys think it's so much more attractive if a guy can just message you first.
I feel like a lot of guys though on Instagram now are private.
So if a guy were to message you and he's private,
like I wouldn't request to follow him to see what he looks like and just leave it.
See that's, I totally agree.
Even if I think they look like fit in there,
like profile picture, I'm like.
I always screenshot that and zoom in.
Yeah.
No, I've done that.
It could be the one photo out of like 10.
Yeah.
I would, I would request to follow to see the pics would you oh i wouldn't yeah i do that a lot i've done it before that's
the thing i can't be arsed yeah and then i feel like i think it's attractive that they're private
account yeah like why like because you're cute it makes me curious yeah no because you're not like
you're like low-key yeah you're like low-key It's like that TikTok time where it's like, please be fit, please be fit.
Yeah, no, this happens all the time.
And then I'm like, oh, hi, like, like asked to follow.
And then they get accepted.
And I look and I'm like, delete my message.
I'm joking, but not.
Please be fit, please be fit.
Oh, this is actually that sound
okay so you guys actually sent in some like scenarios of your own all about sex positions
and everything so we're gonna read some out and we're going to react to them.
Okay, so the first one.
This is, oh my Lord, this is sex position.
This girl did reverse cowgirl on a desk chair.
He tried to shuffle forward,
but rolled over my foot, mood killed.
Wait, I need to actually imagine the scenario.
I don't even know that sex position.
You do know what reverse cowgirl is.
Yes, you do.
Oh, so his head's behind you.
Yeah.
That on a desk chair.
On a desk chair.
Oh, wow.
He tried to shuffle forward and rolled over my foot.
I can't actually imagine that.
With the chair.
Yeah.
He rolled over her foot with the desk chair.
Oh.
Oh.
I feel like... I feel like, you know you know when you bang your foot that's like the
worst pain in the whole world if it hits you in the wrong spot when it sends the pain all the way
up your leg as well i think even in sex as well just if they're literally go to like bedside to
get lube that's a like a mood killer so imagine that yeah let's get loose just get off me right the next one is i was giving a guy head he was laying down
he came he he come too quick and it all came out of my nose what on earth what well it's all
attached isn't it it's a bit like traveled oh god imagine i've never heard of that worse than up in your mouth she needs to like swallow
that's my advice i've never heard of that don't be a spitter what did she want to do
just read it again i was giving a guy head he was laying down he he come too quick and it all
came out of my nose oh no
but I'm just trying to like
how would it come out
of her nose
yeah that's what I don't understand
he's laying down
she might have been shocked
and then been like
maybe it was just
snorkelling
it like choked her
and then it all just
kind of like
yeah
I've done that before
with Red Bull
because someone
made me laugh
when I came home
or maybe he made her laugh
like he was like
her story finished quick
and she was like
oh she was laughing because you finished so quickly and so it come out yeah yeah probably
that i feel like everyone can relate in some way to this not that one
i feel like everyone can in some way relate and someone walking in on them
and it says my mum walking in on me
doing 69 I was 16
and it was my first boyfriend
I would die
I think doing 69 and somebody walking in on you
is more embarrassing than sex
yeah I agree
yeah
imagine your mum at 16
no I don't ever think
how bad is this how our ones doing the deed and
like the door opened but like no one were there
we just did it we were like we'd come off at girls and we're like
we just know what they were like what is going on and we just did it. We were like, we'd come off at girls and we're like, shh.
We just knew what they were like. I'm always going off and we just looked.
And it weren't dogs.
And we're like, fuck off.
The dog wasn't.
Oh my God.
See, I've never had anybody walk in on me.
If it were me, me either.
My mum's been on the landing and I think she's like realised what's going off.
But like she's never walked in.
Have you been walked in have you been wanting her but um trying to think if i've been watching on my mom i walked in on you yes you've walked in on me and another one of my best friends has walked in on me but i
don't think my mom ever has that's okay your friends it's fine in fact someone actually our
ones yeah and um his friend walked in and asked to join in.
You're joking.
I swear to God.
Did you let them?
No.
But what was the guy that you was with?
No, that's quite normal.
I think guys do that.
No, he was just like telling him to get out.
But he was like, oh, can I join in?
It was just like a one night stand situation.
No.
No.
If I was at Blackmere, I'd be really pissed off.
Yeah, that's weird.
Yeah, we were at Blackmere, yeah. You know, that's weird yeah you know that's weird yeah i thought
like one night stand i know a lot of guys who will like do that like they'll share a girl
like i've never but i know people who do do that but not someone you're seeing that's a bit much
i imagine i walked in and some guy you're seeing i was like let me join in
imagine if i asked to join you two when
I walked in on you it weren't a one night stand but we weren't like seeing each other we're just
like friends who benefits yeah so but still I'm not saying that's okay it's like I would put it
down to how the guy speaks about you to his flatmate yeah zero respect yeah yeah because
if he thinks he has the right to be able to go and do that that takes guts
might not be
well yeah well it doesn't matter now anyway
oh my god okay so what is the best advice to end off this podcast that you guys would give
someone after our chats about types and different sex positions don't be available
we've not spoken about that but it is good advice yeah
no i just feel like any of us meant anything about being available.
No, I mean, just, like, boys in general,
but, like, obviously speaking about boys and, like, sex and stuff,
like, don't be, like, available and, like, give it easy and stuff.
Oh, yeah.
Like, be very, like...
Do you think they're hard to get?
Yeah, definitely.
Like, treat them mean, keep them keen.
Yeah. What's yours? I couldn't give that advice because I don't know. Like, treat them mean, keep them keen. Yeah.
What's yours?
I couldn't give that advice because I don't know.
I'm about to say, read the book.
Read the book.
I'll find it and you guys can link it.
People are going to think it's an ad.
Yeah, you should get them to sponsor it.
You probably can't put that in, but yeah.
Well, thank you so much for joining.
Honestly, guys.
I've absolutely loved this conversation.
It's been so fun.
Thank you for having us. Me too. conversation feel like i've lost weight from laughing i hope so
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