Sex, Lies & DM Slides - S1E7: Gizzi & Sydney | Lily Allen
Episode Date: October 10, 2022British pop icon Lily Allen is launching a new vibrator so Gizzi and Sydney had to get her on the show to chat about her orgasms and her recent Vegas marriage to Stranger Things star David Harbour. ... Sex, Lies and DM Slides is a Spotify Original. This series was produced by Heydon Prowse Productions, edited by Podmonkey with music by Free Seed Films. For Spotify, the executive producers are Rachel Simpson and Alexandra Adey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello my name's Gizzy Erskine and I'm Sydney Lima and this is Sex, Lies and DM Slides
where we invite our celebrity friends to dive deep into their DM boxes to see what terrors lurk within.
We'll be chatting about online trolls, online dating, perverted proposals and why everyone's so weird on social media.
Sex and Lies and DM Slides.
Hello and welcome to Sex, Lies and DM Slides. I am your presenter Gizzy Erskine.
And I am your very chilled presenter Sydney Aimer, who hasn't had as much caffeine as you have on.
How are you mate? I'm good. I'm excited today. We've got Lily Allen on and she's a very great human being but we're talking about her vibrator
range so yeah I'm kind of pumped about it I've got a few things I want to talk about actually
firstly I would like to tell you so I mean we had an episode out a few weeks ago which I mentioned
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In getting this company's details so that people can work for them.
But they were essentially just asking me to strip online.
So explain this.
So somebody's actually got back in contact with you about asking you to dance.
I've got a message saying, what was the Zoom dancing company?
I'd be up for that.
Let me know.
As a guy did.
No, as a girl.
A girl.
A girl to dance.
Oh, I think I'm absolutely...
I've also got a proposal this week.
Come on.
Will you marry me so I can get citizenship in the UK?
You'll get citizenship in America too, to be honest.
Oh, quite a good deal.
Well, not in this climate.
Yeah, that's true.
And then the next message a week later,
yo, shit is getting hairy over here.
Please consider my offer.
I'm funny and stuff.
And I'm like, do you know what?
That's better than most of the offers I'm getting at the moment.
So obviously we've got Lily on today
and she's bringing out some vibrators.
And I've been looking at like the way
that social media can get you off now.
Other than dating apps, et cetera.
There are these new things called audio porn apps which
is like sounds to get you in the mood to wank to there are companies called like oral honey but
spent a u r a l honey and then there's like one called lush stories and literatica so they just
like read erotic fiction so this is
like a whole new i mean maybe maybe it's been there around for ages but it feels like a whole
new movement if you ever i mean we should listen have you ever come we should listen to um some or
yeah i don't know if we're allowed to do it for copyright reasons but i can send i can show you
some but we should we should listen to some and i mean i'd be i'd be really interested to see
what that does to me i can't't imagine it's going to do much.
Aren't humans more visual than...
I mean, like, actually, that's not true.
No, because I don't think...
So I can cum quickly on porn,
but, like, I don't think it's, like, a very meaningful cum.
Like, I don't think it's very worthwhile.
I think it's, like, you just quick...
I think maybe there's more in, like, other senses than just visual.
Yeah.
I don't really... To be honest, I, like, grew up not really looking other senses than just visual. Yeah. I don't really, to be honest,
I grew up not really looking when I was having sex.
Yeah.
It's really strange.
We've got such different points of view of this.
I know.
That's why we have the podcast to talk about.
Yes.
I mean, look, okay.
Me and Gizzy are going to both try one app.
And we'll try...
We can compare those.
And we'll compare those on our...
Our comeback.
Yeah.
Wait. Wait. Comeback. And here's compare nos. And we'll compare nos on our comeback. Yeah. Wait, wait.
Comeback.
And here's Lily Allen.
So thank you very much, Lily, for coming on our show today.
How have you been?
Yeah, I'm good.
Yeah, I'm really good.
Sort of like quite zen at the moment.
I feel pretty good.
It would be weird for us not to acknowledge the fact that you are newly wed.
Newly married for the second time.
Yeah, it's great.
So let's talk about the wedding.
So you got married in Vegas.
We did.
We got married at the Graceland Chapel by Elvis, not Presley himself, but somebody impersonating him.
How good of an impersonator was he?
He was pretty good, actually.
We bought the three-song package.
Did you get to choose the songs?
I don't think we did
I think it just happened
But yeah, the vows were really funny
It was like, you know, I vow never to step on your blue suede shoes
There's no religion, no family
It was great
Had you always wanted to get married in Vegas?
No
No, it was just
I never wanted to get married in Vegas
Why did you do it?
It was sort of like I can't say that i wasn't um why did we get married in vegas because we just wanted to get
married and because the um the lockdown situations everywhere it was just really difficult it was
seemed to be the only place sort of stupid enough to have ceremonies so that's what happened
interesting though that we didn't plan to announce it to anyone
like it was meant to be a very private affair then we were leaving vegas driving to los angeles
and nevada clark county tweeted our marriage certificate whoa yeah so that saying of what
happens in vegas stays in vegas it's actually what happens in Vegas gets tweeted
out by Vegas I mean that's a testament I mean obviously this show is about the internet and
how fucking weird it's got and that how private can that be when you get it tweeted yeah it was
weird and then because it was such a lovely pleasurable experience I suddenly got the fear
when we were like on the road because i thought oh god if the
newspapers know we got married then they'll go to the chapel and offer their money for the pictures
and then it will just all leave a sour taste in my mouth so i was just like got a bonus just chuck
this on instagram yeah do they do in the chapel they do like photos like if you're on a kind of
roller coaster in fort park is it kind of kind of yeah i mean it was really like staged like silly pictures they were like you know you
put your hand on her shoulder and like lean her over and literally put your tuck your leg behind
you i was like i wish they did this on real photoshoot yeah like guidance but actually you
do look very like priscilla presley and those pictures were really beautiful and actually the
dress was well it was more a suit, wasn't it?
Well, it was a, yeah, it was a little sort of suit-y dress, I guess.
It was, I found it like literally an hour before.
I was going to say, was it kind of like that whole vibe of like running in?
My daughter had gone to a place called Beautiful Brides that morning to go and like try on rental dresses and we found one that was like very
Dolly Parton-esque like massive sleeves and diamantes and stuff and I was planning on wearing
that and then me and my daughter went shopping and we went into the Dior store and found this
dress and then I was like what do you think of this and she was like well I don't think you're leaving this shop without it, mate.
I was like, OK.
Sold.
So you've recently launched, well, you're about to launch some sex toys.
A sex toy.
A sex toy.
One sex toy.
A clitoral massager.
Where did the inspiration for this come from?
Where did it, well, it came, it was very organic, natural process because i wrote a book two years ago and i didn't really like masturbate or come really until like my late 20s and so i write about
this in a bit in my book and i name check the actual product i use which was this thing called
a womanizer and they got in contact and, would you like to do a collab?
Yeah, a collab, why not?
Has the womaniser evolved since the womaniser?
Yeah, it has.
There's been so many different womanisers.
This one is the best womaniser.
I actually don't know what a womaniser is.
I think it uses pleasure air technology.
And it looks a bit like a hair dryer and you put it on
your clit and it wobbles around and you have an orgasm really quickly. How quick? Like I mean
in a matter of minutes like four minutes three minutes four minutes. See it's very interesting
even less sometimes really depends what you're watching. It's very interesting
what you say about
coming because we
have this conversation.
I feel a bit like
Sydney's big sister here
and we're kind of
quite different in the
sense that I was
quite sexually active
even from eight years
old I remember coming
so I don't actually
Eight?
Yeah.
I was like 18.
No I said 15 the other
day but I thought
about it as 18.
But that's your 20.
Late 20s. You still don't own a vibrator do you? No, I said 15 the other day, but I thought about it as 18. But you were 20. I was in my late 20s.
You still don't own a vibrator, do you?
No, but I did have an ex-boyfriend who had an Eiffel Tower dildo.
You're on my gifting list, so you will have one in a matter of days.
So you don't have a vibrator.
You kind of said that you feel like you're kind of coming into your sexual prime-ish thing.
Sexual awakening. And a lot of people don't really talk about this is is the point and i think it's very cool to come out and talk about it but there's been quite an interesting taboo i mean there was something i
saw online recently that said women get brought up to understand about their periods um we never
get to talk about how to wank i don't have the thing on me, so I'll just make it up.
But I read something recently about that there wasn't actually
any clinical studies done of the clitoris until the late 80s.
It was ridiculous.
I didn't literally know.
No one had done a full-on scan of the vagina,
looking at it for pleasure rather than just as a functional organ
until the late 80s it might even have been early 90s i'm gonna i'm gonna like vouch against the
90s because i was a body piercer in camden and i definitely pierced by a lot of clitoris
isn't just the thing on the outside yeah it goes all the way around your lips and under and it's like yeah but that
it was because of that test that they found that out everyone had always just thought it was a
little bean yeah it's not a little bean that's the end of it yeah how like from when you first
kind of like started having sex has that changed as you go older and then with everyone kind of
becoming more understanding of the clit and stuff like has that completely like shifted all the sexual experiences because i've noticed that that's
been the case like as you get you always tell me like when you get to like mid late 20s that then
you actually start having good sex and then before that it was just kind of a bit of a waste of time
i've got a theory that in your 20s you you're a facilitator yeah exactly yeah i just felt like a
vessel for male enjoyment 100 i think that a lot of it is
fear i think that like we think as soon as you're not convincing him that he is doing a good job
he loses his confidence and then who knows what the fuck can happen when that happens like you
can either turn to anger and can turn to whatever but it's not going to be a pleasurable experience
yes it does all come from a fearful place.
And I guess with programming, how we visualise sex as women
is still the same way that men do, which is because of porn, you know.
I suppose we had, like, Company magazine or, like, Glamour magazine,
you'd be like, ooh, look, here's a few tips, but actually...
Oh, God, those tips are so tasty now.
But actually, I mean, you said that you learnt a lot of
how to have sex because of porn.
And I think that that's quite a normal, not how to have sex.
But the point being is that it's all programming.
And actually to really, I mean, I guess it's these conversations.
Yeah.
What's your experience of porn?
Oh, well.
Well, well, well.
I'm like a bit of granny porn.
No, I'm joking.
I don't know.
I do go through like mad stages of being into no I'm joking I don't know I do go I go through like
mad stages
of being into
all sorts of freaky
weird shit
how does that vary
I mean
a lot
you know
I can start off
with a little bit
of sort of gentle
lesbianing
and then like
full blown gangbangs
I'm really into gangbangs
yeah
it's usually that sort of trajectory.
Sometimes even just like massaging and like fingering sometimes is quite erotic.
That's a really good thing.
You know, like you can YouTube how to make like a Victoria sponge or whatever.
If you go on YouPorn, you can like YouPorn how to have these amazing orgasms.
I would totally recommend it.
So can you tell us a little bit more about these vibrators?
Yeah, I mean, you just put them on your clitoris and then have an orgasm.
But I do think that what I've found interesting about them,
and what I find interesting about them now even,
is that there is that sort of myth, and this toy cuts out that myth,
of in order to get into the mood of things, you light a candle, run a bath, get your oils out.
And do you know what I mean?
And then you can sort of get in contact with yourself.
Whereas this thing I think gives you probably more what it feels like to have,
to be a boy in that you just chuck it on there, it wiggles around and you're coming.
There's not like any of that sort of pretense at the middle bit of like having to
get into the mood
just does the job that's what I like about it
and especially like as a mum
I sometimes have to like get these things in
like in a certain amount of time
I've got to pick the kids up from school
in between the gym and doing studio stuff
and it's like I've got a 15 minute window
get the granny porn on
I don't know
if you remember
the days when
vibrators and
dildos looked
like dicks
like really
and they all
the veins are
intact
like that
not really into
that
that's what my
ex had he had
like a whole
drawer full of
like we had
the Eiffel Tower
one which was
like bright gold
so the actual
Eiffel Tower
but then with
like a kind
of a head
so it was like oh right just a shape or is it like the actual Eiffel Tower. Eiffel Tower but then with like a kind of a head. So it was like, oh right, okay, just a shape.
Or is it like the actual Eiffel Tower?
I think he used them on other people like when we broke up.
And I don't know what the courtesy is of...
Telling people.
Well, no, just...
Well, no, more about using sex toys on other people.
Can you do that?
Well, yeah.
I feel like I'm in a washing machine.
Well, the dishwasher, not the washing machine.
I know, but isn't it just like more of a kind of um not the washing machine i know but it's just
like more of a kind of well yeah it's a bit of hand sanitizer
i don't i don't love the idea of it
but i guess if a dick's oh sorry
like going thinking about the pragmatics yeah i don't know I don't love it but I also
don't really mind that much that make me a dirty bitch so how many vibrators do you have oh my god
so many so many I actually have like basically a washing basket in my bathroom that's got two
sides to it it's like a double wash I guess you're meant to put like your whites and colours in it
or your dry cleaning and something else.
And it's actually just washing and dildos.
And it literally goes to the top.
And what sort of different shades?
The one place I know my kids are never going to look
is in the washing basket.
All sorts of toys.
I've got like gyrating ones.'ve got different sizes ones that go like back
and forwards ones that like curl do you think the womanizer is kind of more of a key factor
because most women learn how to orgasm from their clitoris to begin with before discovering the g
spot or do you think that's maybe not true that's a huge no i don't think that i think it probably
is true i think that the myth is that
you need a penis to make you come yeah definitely all that porn where they're like you know fingering
girls no one that they never start like going by going in like there's a lot of work going on on
the clitoris so yeah it's a surefire way yeah boys if you're listening can we just throw some
dildo facts at you what do you know about dildos i mean not much so do you we just throw some dildo facts at you? What do you know about dildos?
I mean, not much.
So, do you know when the first dildo was ever found?
Or phallus, shall we call him?
No.
I don't believe this.
A 28,000-year-old phallus found in Germany recently
was close to being the oldest sex toy ever known.
28,000, I mean...
I guess we still had needs in those days.
There's no reason why not.
Definitely.
The term dildo was first coined in around 1400 AD
and originated from Latin for...
Dilator?
Yeah.
It's very unsexy.
Which means open wide.
And Italian for delight also translates as diletto.
In the Middle East, historical reports reference Egyptians and the
Greek using unripe bananas or
firm camel dung coated in
resin as sex leads.
I mean, whatever floats your boat.
You know.
Desperate leads. No judgement.
You can see this is Hayden's
facts.
So our show is obviously
based around people sliding into your DMms and the kind of weird well
yes strange messages you can receive are we able to open up your other inbox yeah i mean i don't
really have that oh no i'm not people don't really send me things because i just don't encourage it
i did get one today i did a tiktok thing where you have to move your head down.
It makes your forehead look really big as it scans down.
And someone sent me a DM saying,
do that to your pussy and send me it, please.
Oh, wow.
I'll reply with one of my cock.
Should we do it?
No, I'm joking.
Did you reply?
No.
I mean, I have to say, I'm probably the worst person to do this with because i had a
stalker uh that started on instagram so i kind of like just don't really engage let's not do that
because it didn't end particularly nicely but there was this one guy called the secret
he emailed me ages ago.
Let me see if I can find one of his emails.
Hi, Lily. I rep
anonymous artist producer The Secret.
He specialises
in experimental songwriting and production.
The Secret is really
interested in working, writing, producing
with you. He's incredibly brilliant in getting
down on a very real depth
with other artists and
extracting a vision, truth, for
a record. He's kind of like a
Banksy in the music industry
mixed with massive attack
port-a-tet vibe.
He read your recent interview with Eve Barlow
for Vulture and asked me to get in
touch. Not sure if you're in the States
at all, but I actually just moved to NYC.
Do you have any interest in meeting the secret and i for lunch to which i just like passed it to my manager i was
like what is this it was on instagram they messaged you he dm'd me on instagram so he was like i want
to send you some tracks so i was like okay here you go and then that happened and it was literally
about two years i think of like him just like hammering
my email address and me just being like never responding and i think i put my manager in touch
with him and said can you just get rid of this guy he's really freaking me out and also like
i had a stalker like break into my house like can you explain to him that this is actually quite
scary and can you can he go away and seb, yeah, I'll get in touch with him.
He got in touch with him and he still didn't stop.
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I'm actually the producer. Recording engineer. The secret.
Right. I feel like, what was that comedy thing?
I believe that God, the secret,
gives me all the power to create everything I've ever created.
I've been keeping this quiet for seven years now.
But I feel internally that God never really wanted the secret to be a secret.
And that this gift that I am incredibly humbled to be able to steward should be shared
with that said i'd really love to collab and get in the studio with you
so you were also you were the queen of myspace still am
you are the queen of myspace um i mean like that was a that was a different time in the
messaging oh god who was in your top eight? Top five.
Top eight.
I mean, quite a lot of people.
I mean, you know.
You can change.
Adele before she was big.
Florence before she was big.
Mystery Jets.
Yeah, I can't remember.
I think Myspace should come back.
I'd love Myspace to come back.
I think it was the best.
It really was.
It was the best time. I know. Kids don't know what they're missing all this tiktok nonsense are you on tiktok
yeah i only like recently that i have it on my phone but i don't really contribute to it so
it is common knowledge if not it is now because Makita ended up telling everyone about this. But you met your husband on Raya.
I did.
Was that your first dating site experience?
Yeah, and also I'd never...
Actually, there was one Tinder experience,
but I wouldn't call that a date, to be quite honest.
Yeah.
But I'd actually never been on a date before I met David.
Wow. It was my first date before I met David. Wow.
It was my first date.
That's interesting.
Were you shitting yourself?
So scared.
Yeah.
I was absolutely terrified.
We went for dinner at this place called The Wolseley,
which is quite a fancy restaurant.
It's quite sort of open and everyone can see.
Anyway, I walked in.
He was massive then because he'd been shooting this film
and he was playing someone that was a lot bigger than he is now and he had this like mane of like long hair and a sort of man bun
and totally not my type and uh and i was like oh and then he was like oh hey now do you have you
been here before and i was like oh yeah i come here all the time my kids love the pancakes here
and he went oh my god you have kids and i was like, oh, yeah, I come here all the time. My kids love the pancakes here. And he went, oh, my God, you have kids?
And I was like...
And then I just died for about five minutes.
Had you been flirting for a long time then?
I was on holiday in Italy and had matched with him.
And then I was actually sort of seeing someone else.
So we didn't meet up.
And then I broke up with someone else saying that,
I know I just really couldn't,
wasn't like up for having a relationship at that time.
Five minutes later.
Five minutes later.
Oh, I'm in a relationship.
I always figure that stuff doesn't matter
because if it kind of like stands the test of time
and it is impactful,
that person, the other person just needs to get over it.
You got married.
Yeah.
He was a huge Stranger Things fan though.
And I hadn't seen it.
So I felt a bit mean.
And he had kids as well and the whole family
liked to sit around and watch Stranger Things together.
And I was like, oh God.
It must have been quite an interesting...
Do you have fans where One Direction fans really go in?
Because it's so huge, Stranger Things.
Do you have any of his fans coming to you via the internet?
Or vice versa.
Yeah, I mean, do you know on the day that our wedding pictures came out,
my follower count went up by 250,000.
Thank you very much.
I mean, at first they were all furious,
because the fan accounts think that
David and Winona Ryder should be together.
Right.
So the fact that I'm not Winona Ryder
is really upsetting to them.
It's also upsetting to me.
Yeah.
Do you know what I'm really interested in and I want to pick up on?
It's like you said it was your first date.
Yeah.
Because like I completely relate to that in the sense that I haven't,
I mean, only just really been on a date recently kind of thing.
Because I haven't been on dates.
Why hadn't you been on dates?
Because I'm English, innit?
And that's what we do when we're young.
It's just like you go to the pub and get drunk
and then end up in bed with someone.
Yeah.
And then if you wake up and you're not disgusted the next day,
then maybe you meet them again.
I'm doing this all wrong.
But I don't think that that is unconnected to the lack of orgasms.
That's, you've got a point.
I think that, you know, we in this country,
it's part of our culture is that we are facilitators of male pleasure.
And that is reflected in the fact that we're not really like arsed out on dates.
But yeah, it was weird going on a date.
Sydney's bit.
I really could say it because you said it last time.
No, I don't want to do it.
No, but I just want to know
what Lily would say.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Let's get some advice.
Anyway, yeah.
Yeah, you explain it.
Basically, like,
if you said, like,
in the English kind of manner
of, like, go to the pub
or you go for a few drinks
and you go back to the house.
Yeah.
Like, if you're at the house,
you stay over.
If they don't try and kiss you,
does that mean they're not into you?
Is that, like,
should you be, like, lucky
that they didn't kiss you
because they didn't see you
as a kind of one-nighter thing?
I don't know because I've only ever been on one date
and I ended up marrying one.
I'm like, oh, you like me.
We'll go to our sheet.
Our sheet.
Now we're on to questions that Hayden has written.
Oh, great.
Our toxic male producer, Hayden.
So, have you always been into older guys
yeah I think so I mean I guess not when I was at school
I guess not when I was at school
although maybe yeah I mean I probably fancied the guys in sixth form when I was at school.
Although, maybe, yeah.
I mean, I probably fancied the guys in sixth form when I was, like, in year 10, 11.
The next question is, biggest age difference you've ever dated?
Well, when I was 21, I went out with a 51-year-old.
Fuck off.
My dad was 30 years older than my mum.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, shut up.
I think if you've got the chat,
it's a vice versa.
Can I go back to Hayden's?
Yeah.
I don't want to.
I know, but it's just...
Sleeping with her dad's friend.
That was the 50 year old.
Yeah.
Really?
I see. That was in the book? It is in the book, yeah. Really? I see.
That was in the book?
It is in the book.
Yeah, it's in the book.
I'll refer you to my book.
Yes, I did sleep with very old men.
Some of them were friends of my dad's.
Read about it in my book.
Let's talk about the book because I wasn't sure if you'd be bored about talking about the book.
But that was obviously a huge expose on so many different parts of your life.
A lot of it was sexually as well.
And it was a very bold and explicit version of Lily that we may not have known before.
But what was the process of writing the book like?
I mean, it was like sitting down one day a week for two years.
And then, you know, basically taking all of that information and that data and editing it
into something that made sense we did first of all it was like chronologically and then it felt
that didn't work and so we did the sort of chapters and of different subject matters so
like sex and money and music and i found the process really not fun yeah because it wasn't
fun i was really like isolated at the time uh so i just my marriage
had disintegrated and all of my friends or people i thought were my friends had definitely like
chosen sam my ex-husband's camp and so i was kind of like stuck in this house and the stalker thing
happened quite soon after we broke up as well so i was slightly traumatized and just sort of
working through a bunch of stuff with my therapist and then this book offer came in so I was just like you know what I might just
do this all at the same time I mean it's like it's somebody's kind of interested in this kind
of therapy I have a very mixed relationship with therapy personally like was it a therapeutical
experience or was it quite a hard thing to continue living with having to really expose
yourself to all that information I felt like people and it's probably like the narcissist of me like also you know i've thought
that people thought about me a lot more than they did you know i was like very like self-involved
and so i felt like i couldn't move on to the next stage of my life without like setting some things
straight i just had a sort of bee in my bonnet about this person that everybody
thought I was which I didn't feel like matched up at all I wanted to move on in my life and like
move on to the next chapter and come out of divorce and come out of all this other stuff
and I just felt like I couldn't do that until I'd like got all this shit out basically
and I thought why not make some money out of it how do you feel how do you feel about it all now
like because obviously were you drinking when you were writing it originally and like yeah
a kind of sobering experience is there a different way then how you've processed it
I mean it would be a different book now I guess it wasn't so much the drinking really I was smoking
a lot of weed at that time so I just sort of like run away with sort of mad thoughts there was a lot of editing
it went on um it might feel slightly more coherent if I was to do it again now
and the process did you think it sort of contributed to the result and you're getting
sober or not like just sort of having all of that no I think they were completely unrelated I just
like I didn't really have like a rock bottom I mean I did have just, like, I didn't really have, like, a rock bottom. I mean, I did have a rock bottom,
but I didn't get sober when I was having my rock bottom.
It came, I sort of, like, did recovery in reverse.
I kind of, like, did work the steps almost, 12 steps,
with my therapist before I'd actually got sober.
But it's good being sober.
Yeah.
How has that affected your sex life?
It's just different. Yeah. I actually I actually like remember having sex very
interesting a good friend of mine sets into my DMs and she was like I really
wish you'd talk about like chemsex and like how the sort of judgment that women
have on themselves after either being high or drunk and ending up in
promiscuous situations how that sort of leaves dents on your soul and should we have more in
ship a bit or like is it just like a really horrible sordid part of drinking i don't know
that's quite a big question i mean i definitely have felt a lot of shame and guilt around
my sexual escapades in the hours immediately afterwards
but i don't know if that's real guilt or shame or it's just like society's projections onto
oneself you know like yeah it's that thing when you wake up and then you have to like go through
that whole process of a day of just like reliving each bit you're just going and like the only way
you can then sometimes get over these things it's like oh let's go back out again yeah i mean i had those
moments when it just wasn't even about sex it's just like being so i i yeah the two would like
quite often merge you lose control don't you but it's not anymore not anymore are your vibrations Not anymore. Not anymore. Are your vibrators your first business venture?
No.
I mean, I had a spectacular failure of a rental, vintage rental business.
That's right, I bet you. Ten years ago.
Don't we met?
Right around the corner.
It was right here.
Your sister.
So that was my first big failure.
It was a lot of money.
Business is a fucking prick, though, but you learn from these things.
Yeah, you do.
I'm very excited to receive my vibrator.
I know.
Look at her little face.
No, I am excited.
Is there a how-to?
Is there a how-to in it?
You don't, honestly, you do not need a how-to.
It's very simple.
You just turn it on, put it on there, and you're away.
If you have not had a vibrator, like, you've had them, but you don't own one.
Is that right?
I think, well, I've used one, but it's not mine.
Okay.
It was an ex's.
Well, you're going to have your own toy.
Very own.
But I've had dreams.
I have, like, a quite recurring dream about vibrators.
And then, like, I can definitely feel an orgasm in my dream, which I'm really confused by.
Have you ever had this?
What?
Wet dreams?
Is that what? Can women get them? Yeah.
That's what I'm dealing with.
Jesus.
I'll pass on sex out of this.
I didn't know that that was a thing. Yes, it's
100% a thing. I didn't know women
could get it. I mean, I say 100%. I'm sure there are
people out there that can't or don't. But you feel like you're...
Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you can actually come.
Yeah. Yeah, I think I was. But it's true. I can imagine but you feel like you're yeah yeah sometimes you can actually cum yeah yeah I think I was
but it's true
I can imagine
you vibrate it
yeah you were
having an orgasm
in your sleep
oh bless
coming in her sleep
have we done
all your questions
Hayden
is there anything
you want to get
off your chest
how many of your
dad's friends
have you fucked
should we round it off then
oh round it off
I don't know why
I'm going into this
I'm still a bit embarrassed
about the wet dream
well Lily
thank you very much
for coming on
on this wet afternoon
thanks for coming
in this wet afternoon
okay Gizzy
chill
thank you yeah I hope you don't have to come again next time It is a wet afternoon. Okay, Gizzy, chill.
Thank you.
Yeah, I hope I can come again sometime.
We look forward to receiving all my votes.
Yeah.
What are we doing? Really lots.
We have a real buzz about them.
What do we do?
Go and have your wank and then come back and just film your face.
Yeah.
Just got lilyed.
Well, on that note
on that note
thank you very much
thank you so much
my pleasure
thank you
pleasure
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