Sex, Love, and What Else Matters - Four Christmases

Episode Date: December 28, 2022

Episode 7. This week, Kristen and Luke recap their cross-country road-trip, plus find out why they’re grinching this Holiday season and hell-bent on convincing their families for a “no-gifts/let�...�s vacation” X-Mas next year. They discuss their thoughts on PDA around family, sex at a parent’s house, and how to handle the holidays when in a relationship. Kristen’s military Veteran brother, Ryan, chimes in for some boy talk with Luke. Finally, join all three as they introduce their first “Ask Me Anything” segment, facing some hard-hitting questions from Kristen’s Instagram followers!  Follow us: @kristendoute @luke__broderick Email us: sexlovepodcast@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, oh, oh, just kidding. Baham Bug. Welcome back to the podcast y'all. Kristen and Luke here. We're here. It's coming up on Christmas and we're feeling kind of grinchy. Super grinchy. Bahambuk. I'm screwed right now. I mean, when you drive over 2400 miles, like 2500 miles, 35 hours to go to four Christmas's, four Christmas's don't you wish we were like Reese with their spoon and Vince
Starting point is 00:00:40 Vaughn, but we actually made it to Fiji. Yes, or honestly, if they if our four Christmas's were just like in the same city, not on the other side of the country and the coldest winter of 40 years is what they're calling it right now. The wind chills. That was before I was born.
Starting point is 00:00:53 It is, it is, it is. So they're calling this the, the coldest winter, or the coldest Christmas in 40 years with wind chills bad as 40 below where we are. That's up in, no, not where we are. That's like up in South Dakota. Are you from South Dakota? I was looking, I saw forecast in Fort Wayne,
Starting point is 00:01:12 which is halfway here. In Fort Wayne, Indiana, halfway between my place and your parents said windshields as low as 41 below. Screw that. There's 50 some mile per hour wind and the still temperature is negative and good luck Sanorm. Yeah and so now we're in we're in good old suburb of Detroit, Dearborn Michigan where I'm from and we're at my girlfriend
Starting point is 00:01:35 Michelle's house and it's literally covered in potty pads because it is too cold for my dogs to go outside. It's literally too cold. They'll get hypothermia in under five minutes and they actually just won't even go outside. It's literally too cold. They'll get hypothermia in under five minutes. And they actually just won't even go outside. That's the worst part. They, they're not fans neither of my. But speaking of, you said my parent, where my parents live, my parents house,
Starting point is 00:01:56 or whatever you just said. This is why we're four Christmas's, because we're both from divorced families. And because we are so nice and we love our grandmas, really the only reason we came out this way, isn't it? We each have, I have one grandma with us still and Luke has two and no offense thrust my family, but hard hell no.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Except for my nephew because my nephew is about to go into the military and I will not be able to make his graduation, which is in like a week in Michigan. And I really wanted to see him, my little brother lives in Idaho, which I haven't been to yet, but I want to. So it's really for my family,
Starting point is 00:02:32 it's the first year that every single aunt, uncle, cousin, all of my siblings, their kids, that we will all be under the same roof at my grandma's house. I think since, right before my grandpa died, to be honest, so it's gonna be a shit show tomorrow. That has to be, like, feel good. You have to try to get that together
Starting point is 00:02:51 when you can while your grandparents are still around. I missed the last Christmas that my grandpa was around. I was in Colorado. I was really busy the time and money expense to get back and see everybody just wasn't gonna happen. So I made a trip earlier in the month, didn't get to see everybody was back, and then just after New Year's I find out my grandpa has pancreatic cancer, and he only lives three more months.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Oh, well that's really sad. Yeah, I was really sad, and that's when I decided that I'm not going to miss another, I'm at least gonna see my grandparents around Christmas every year because I only have two left. So. It means a lot to them and that, you know what, like they helped raise us. I feel grandparents are like the staples of the family.
Starting point is 00:03:35 The grandma's are like the matriarchs of the family, you know, like you do what you can for them. Yeah, well, obviously none of us would be here if they didn't give birth to our parents. Correct. So. However, I'm still the Grinch and I'm still Scrooge and I'm really pissed off that this is why when I'm in Michigan, I'm down to have a July Christmas.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Any time, y'all, I used to not ever be able to come to Michigan in the summer because I was always filming Vanderbump rules. And we were not allowed to leave town from like May until the end of August, maybe September even. So I never got to go home during the summer. That's too bad because that's the best time to be in Michigan. Crime time. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:04:13 We came back here in August and had a great time. Fishing. Yeah. Water skiing. Green grass. Oh, just fuck. It was nice. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Well, here we are. Bahamburg, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Holidays, everyone. So yeah, we just did this road trip, Luke, here a beast, we drove, oh, well, I say we, I keep saying we, but Luke drove through the storm of the, you know, the half of century. How was it for you?
Starting point is 00:04:40 I was just a co-pilot, took some videos of snow and posted on Instagram. It wasn't that bad. I've driven through far worse. Well, I'm just glad, likepilot, took some videos of snow and posted on Instagram. It wasn't that bad. I've driven through far worse. Well, I'm just glad, like, I never actually thought you and I would get in a fight over both being Grinchy and Cranky. And I think it's because we're both Grinchy that we're just like, we can complain to each other.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And then we both just say we have to suck it up for the fam. Yeah, it's for them. That's fine. You know, you gotta be uncomfortable for a week or two out of the whole year. But if we can't fight it all in two weeks driving seven it'll be 70 plus hours 5,000 miles. We're destined for greatness dear Luke. Greatness That's gonna be the name of our first child greatness. We're destined for that. That's not true
Starting point is 00:05:21 I already named our children and you guys don't get to know what that will be if we have them. Okay, maybe middle name greatness. So I'm wondering to everybody, Luke and I were talking about like staying with our families during the holidays and I was questioning like I've met Luke's family for the most part one time which I've mentioned before and I had this like fear in me of like what is appropriate PDA in a new relationship when the family doesn't really know you that well. Not that I'm like trying to like suck on his tongue in front of his mom, but I just don't know. And because this is the first time we've
Starting point is 00:05:55 been around each other's family saying, okay, you know, we're not just bang buddies anymore. Front benefits were like, no, we're actually dating. It's instead official, you know, it's not complicated. We're hashtagging a relationship. I was feeling really nervous about pda in front of you. Like when you put your arm around me at Christmas at one point and you like kiss me on the teeth, I was just filled with like warmth and love and blood flow and butterflies. And I felt so happy because I just didn't know what was appropriate. Uh, my family's very, the very easy going. No one's going to go to scoff or look down on us for kissing. Obviously, like you said, if you don't, not sucking on my tongue,
Starting point is 00:06:33 you're gonna go to a corner and make out or slip away to a bedroom to bank. We're not crabbists. Right. Do you know what crabbists? Crabbists. Courtney Kardashian and Travis Barker. They're like super famous for infamous even for just like sucking tongue. No.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Yeah, we're not that. I'm not in tune with the Kardashians, never have to. Okay, you should be. Probably never will be. Well, it's a great show. But yeah, I was definitely nervous about that and I'm really happy we didn't. Well, I thought we weren't going to be staying with them at all because then I'm like, well, can we have sex?
Starting point is 00:07:04 Should we have sex? Is that weird to have sex? And you guys, my brother is sitting in the room right now and he just perked up and was like, great, thanks, Kristen. He'll be on a bit later. But the last day before we drove to Michigan, we did end up staying where your family was staying. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:21 We all stayed together. My brother-in-law and sister have a rental house in Brown County, Indiana. If anyone's familiar, it's an awesome little Midwestern weekend vacation destination. Well, and if you're not familiar, Luke, tell them about Ellison House because it's cool. I wish I knew the exact numbers, but there's, it sleeps like 16 people. I think there's seven or eight bedrooms, six bathrooms. It's got a really nice living area. But it's like a rental. It's a rental. They rent. And it's in the most miraculous little Christmas village looking town. It's an awesome little, they call it an artist colony.
Starting point is 00:07:54 There are no chains. These are all little individual businesses. These small stores through the town. And it's just really cool. If you stay at the house, you can walk to everything. Can I tell you guys how flipping cutie is that his older sister owns a little independent And it's just really cool. If you stay at the house, you can walk to everything. Walk to everything. And I tell you guys how flipping cut it is that his older sister owns a little independent toy store. And he has a niece and nephew that are his sister's kids. Three and six, I think they are.
Starting point is 00:08:15 You're niece and nephew? Four and six, sorry. But like young kids and their mom owns a flipping toy store. Yeah, talk about spoiled. Good luck buying a present for kids who's parents own a toy store. Which is like talk about how adorable that is and it's like it's like real toys not an iPad you know. Oh yeah there it's hard core on limiting the screen time and the whole idea and the movement
Starting point is 00:08:38 with her business with the toy store is to get kids to play like get out and play with each other don't be sitting stuck in looking at a screen watching these videos, playing these video games by yourself, maybe interacting with a person. Maybe it's a robot on the other side. Well, four of my girlfriends and LA, I'll have babies around the same time as you guys know, and I'm telling you when I have a baby, that baby gets a damn iPad. Well, they have an iPad. I'm not saying they don't. I'm saying they are very strict on limiting it. They can't sit on iPad all day. I know I totally get for a couple hours, you know, later in the day or, you know, they can do 20 minutes after lunch while they digest and they got a lot of
Starting point is 00:09:14 Sorry, I loved to play hide and seek. Yeah, like all the stuff we did as kids, you know, I love that. I bought summer Sheena's daughter a little like bath toy from that little store last time we were here. Yeah, I remember. And she loves it. But yeah, how do you feel? So now we're, we stayed with my sister last night, and then now we're staying with one of my girlfriends. But like, how do you feel about, you know, either you and I or just past relationships, like staying with family and what are the limits?
Starting point is 00:09:42 Like, can you have sex when you're staying under your parents' roof? I mean, I didn't high school. So, I don't know what's stopping me now. Okay. Well, I didn't high school too, but it's like, when you're older, it's like we have this level of respect sort of. Yeah, I mean, we're not screaming and banging on the walls.
Starting point is 00:09:58 No, we're trying to draw attention to each other, or, you know, to us, but, yeah, there's a level of respect. Do you feel weird? Like, let's just say we say the your dad's house, which is the house you grew up in, which is massive. Let's just say we had slept there. Granted, your room is on the bottom of three floors. But would you feel comfortable having sex in your mom
Starting point is 00:10:20 or dad's house? 1,000%. OK. I don't know if I would. I don't think I would have sex in my mom's house. 1,000%. Okay. I don't know if I would. I don't think I would have sex in my mom's house. Maybe if she were home, if my mom were not home, I would, but I would not do it like at night time when my mom's like sleeping in the next room.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Would you share a wall? No. Well, then who cares? I don't know. That's just me, yeah. That's just how I feel. And how do you feel about PDA? Because you haven't really been with my family
Starting point is 00:10:44 except my sister. And she doesn't count, because she's fun. Yeah, I mean, I don't care. I don't case you in front of anybody. Oh, you're the best thing. I swear. Oh, wait, I know what we're also grinting about. Presence.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Fucking presence, dude. Yeah, the last second trip to Walmart to get gift cards and bottles of wine and bottles of liquor to just have something for everybody. It's just so annoying, especially when you like you specifically have three siblings, they have significant others. I have two siblings, one I have a brother-in-law, the kids are fine teenagers, children, always deserve that, but it's like parents and then parents significant others when you're in a divorced family and you're literally just reaching It's like parents and then parents significant others when you're in a divorced family
Starting point is 00:11:23 and you're literally just reaching to say, like, here's a gift card at a bottle of bourbon or a bottle of wine and it's, ugh, it absolutely drives me fucking crazy. We have finally decided with all my siblings we are drawing a name and we are buying one present. Everybody buys one present and gets one present. You decided that, which is why.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I throughout the idea, at least pushed it along, and it's going to happen. Next year, there's no more showing up and buying seven presents and having all these little presents is going to be like, cool, get somebody one thing that they want. You're going to get one thing that you want. And we're all going to be happy. It's going to be great.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Happier than trying to pull together gift cards and crap. No, I saw Kristen Chenoweth, who I'm obsessed with, posted today. If you're out shopping today, be nice to the retail workers. It's not their fault you waited until Mary's water broke to shop. That's the way it is. And it's true.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I thought we decided that next year we're doing zero presents, except for children, and we're all going to Florida and renting an Airbnb together, because I'm not doing this cold again. I moved to California 15 years ago for a damn reason. Yeah, I'm with you. At the same time, it's a little nervous.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Why do people live here on purpose? It's cold. It's cold sometimes. I'm soft and it's cold. Yeah, they will make you soft. I can speak from experience. So we're planning on leaving December 25thth Sunday morning before my mom's actual Christmas, which makes me feel a little shitty. But I am spending the 24th in the morning with my mom and my
Starting point is 00:12:57 siblings because we're taking photos. But I feel like we might get guilt tripped into doing Christmas on Sunday. If they do it in the morning, I'm cool with that. How earlier are we talking? Yeah, well, I mean we should sleep, but I have some guilt. Understandably, we came all this way and then to leave and not see anybody on Christmas day when that I don't know, it is about the grandma, like you said. Right. And we're going to see her tomorrow. But is it my mom's fault that her mom already passed away? Not really. Unless she killed her and then no. Oh my god, she's so dark of you. You asked if it was her fault. I said, don't, you know, the only way it would be her fault is if she killed her. Oh, it just feels like For Christmas is so hard. I don't know what to do. Book a trip to Fiji next year.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Book a trip to Fiji next year. Yeah. So shout out to all of our like New England area, like Midwest peeps. Everyone going through this horrific cold. We respect you. We love you. I hope you're safe. I hope everyone's animals are safe. I hope your spirits are high because like I said, we suck at Christmas this year. We're just we're angry elves.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I did you called an angry elf? I'm calling myself an angry elf. You're calling yourself an angry elf. But when we did that blind wine tasting at Dallas and Alice. With your family. Was that last night? Two nights ago. Two nights ago. That's right. With my family. So everyone knows, I numbered my little taste or cups, so I could go back and see what they were. And Kristen decided it would be funny to grab my cups and start writing other numbers on them. Oh yeah, we did kind of get in a fight. You got mad at me. It wasn't a fight, but I definitely glared at you.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And when it's like, I don't mean you like, don't mess with my stuff. What are you doing? You threw a pen at me or something. Yeah, I threw a one and a half ounce Dixie Cup at you. So aggressive. Yeah, because it was supposed to just be a taste test
Starting point is 00:14:38 and looks out here with like 12 little plastic Dixie Cubs with all numbers so he can like keep figuring out what they have. This was a competition people. It was a competition. They were still learning things about each other. But now I know how to twist your nipples in a bad way. Just don't literally twist my nipples. Sometimes you like it.
Starting point is 00:15:01 That's not true. Anyway, we suck at Christmas. So speaking of all of this, we have my little brother. When I say little, I mean we're 15 months apart. But to me, he'll always be five years old and he'll be a little lion in his kindergarten circus. So we're gonna welcome my brother to a podcast. And I'm gonna apologize ahead of time
Starting point is 00:15:18 if he says anything extremely inappropriate because that's what he's so good at. So, Ryan, Ryan, my angel, how are you? Living the dream, how are you? Living the dream, he says, so little quick sort of backstory of my brother. Yeah, we're 15 months apart. He was in the US Army. I have mad respect. I am really happy that he did not grow in height or Muscular situation until after the military because I was a very nice when growing up because he was smaller and My sister and I kind of were dicks to him and then when he came out of the military He was like super you know just honorable and respectful and protective over my sister my my mom and I, but he was also suddenly
Starting point is 00:16:07 like six, two plus and shoulders and pecs and biceps and I'm like, oh fuck, he can really beat my outs now. I never forgot about it. And now his son, my nephew, is about to go into the military and I'm really sad about it and I don't like it one bit. How do you feel about our eye? I'm excited. It was great for me. I think it'll be great for him. You know, I considered heavily going in the military. I took the ASVAB. I met with recruiters for a bunch of different disciplines
Starting point is 00:16:33 and ultimately, I didn't know that. I swear I told you this. No. No, no, I looked, I didn't want to go to college. I was like, so over school, I've been over school since third grade and I'm like, this is stupid. And ultimately the girlfriend at the time and my mom are the reason they convinced me to go to college and plus they're like, oh, you can play frisbee. Just go give it a try. Yada, yada. I went every single semester. I tried to try to quote unquote to drop out, meaning I'd call
Starting point is 00:17:02 my sister or call my mom or call somebody and be like, hey, I'm done with this. Which branch of the military were you considering going into, do you remember? So I looked at Army Air Force Navy because- Okay, so basically everything but the Marines. Well, yeah, everything but the Marines. But after I took the ASVAB and got like a 92 or something they said- Can you explain to- Do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Either if you want to explain to our listeners. Ryan, tell them what that is. Yes, the military interests exam. It determines your skills and the kind of jobs that you would qualify for. So. Does it have anything to do with IQ, or is it more just like trade?
Starting point is 00:17:37 Little bit of column A, little bit of column B. It's gonna be a combination of math, science, and English speaking for certain cyber security and you know you get line scores STGT and Was yours like off the charts like Einstein shit because you're such a good computer dude It was pretty high. Yeah, I got 97 on the S5. I know you guys I my whole life I said I was smarter than Ryan and she was wrong once I became an adult I was like okay
Starting point is 00:18:05 His IQ is higher than mine. We are both very smart. We are both well above average However, I will admit my brother is smarter than me. Yeah, I thought 92 was high 97 is and it's a percentile score It's percentile crap. Yeah, yep. Yeah, I did I did okay. I did pretty good I dropped out of high school in ninth grade and I still did all right on that test but didn't I did okay. I did pretty good. I dropped out of high school in ninth grade and I still did all right on that test, but I didn't I did no you went to high school after that because I didn't finish any grade after ninth. I didn't know that because yeah Yeah, mom put me in that Miller school work. Oh, yeah, so maybe technically we spoke a lot of weed in high school I did a lot of bad things. Yeah, But now we're like smart and we're adults and we're responsible and shit.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Yeah, yeah, live in the dream. Live in the dream. Something like that. Yeah, something like that. So my brother, yeah, my brother was married before and has my awesome nephew. And now he's single ladies, as long as he doesn't date one of my friends, everyone's like, he's so cute.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Oh my God. So Idaho ladies rare look out. If you are under the age of 25, please do not reach out to him because you will be his type. All the things. But yeah, look me up. That's things, but look me up regardless age, age, or relevant. Do you know why age? I think I actually know part of the reason why it bothered up regardless. Age, age irrelevant. Do you know why age, I think,
Starting point is 00:19:25 I actually know part of the reason why it bothered me Luke with you is because like I said in the beginning, like my brother is only 15 months younger than me. He's 38. But for me, anyone growing up, like meaning in my early adulthood, like 20s, early 30s, anyone who is even like a year younger than my brother or his age, Carter, for example,
Starting point is 00:19:46 my ex-boyfriend Carter is one month younger than my brother to the day and it freaked me the fuck out. Because now I'm dating one of my brother's friends. I'm dating the little kid from the kindergarten circus where my brother was a lion and he had a cute little bull haircut and his big blue eyes and I don't like it. No, that can't be true. No, that's why. You felt that way, even though you had whatever you had with, we don't know who you're talking about. Whatever that guy was on the show, that was way younger than you.
Starting point is 00:20:15 That was a rebound, not a relationship. Regardless. Holder you, I don't know. I'm 31. Okay. He's born in 91. What she's talking about though is I had a fleeing last time. No, I'm not referring to that.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Oh, you're not referring to that? No. I'm being treated. No, not right. I want you to tell the story. It's fantastic. But no, I'm truly saying ever since I became an adult, it was just like, if I date someone, my brother's age or younger, it's like dating my little brother's friend,
Starting point is 00:20:45 even though we're only a year apart. It's a weird psychological thing, but I think because you're a dude, it's different because your sisters would ask you to not date their friends, correct? Sure, but I can date people younger than their friends, so that's not a problem. You know, Logan always asked me not to date anyone his age,
Starting point is 00:21:04 so I would hope that. Well, speaking of that, Luke, tell your story. Yeah. So last summer, I had this fling for, I don't know, a little over a month. Are you calling it a fling? Yeah, I mean, we saw each other like every day for a month in the summer. But as quickly as it started, it's as quick as it went away. So that's why I call it a fling.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Did I think that there could be more? Sure. But just as quick as it came So that's why I called a fling. Did I think that there could be more? Sure, but just as quick as it came on and left, it was a fling. Anyway, she was 19, but she was also in her senior year of college, is like the whole pitch to me. So everyone can understand the picture here. The way I met her was because her parents were telling me I had to meet her. I knew them for some time and know it to be fair. She's very cool. She just kind of limited life experience. No, she's super attractive. I've seen her go down.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Nothing negative to say about her. Yeah, she's attractive. She's intelligent. But let's tell the story. It just tell which story. So on our road trip, y'all know I love my stocking skills. Like Crazy Kristen's not gone and dead, but I just don't act on them for myself. I don't date guys I think are cheaters or that need to be looked into. I don't go
Starting point is 00:22:13 through it. People's phones anymore like I'm no I'm grown. However Luke knows that I just love this stuff and there are girls that he's you know had interactions with that I know follow me on Instagram. And or have commented on Instagrams blah, blah, blah. So it looks like, okay, I'm like, I want to stalk this person. Like I just want to look them up. I just want to test my skills, not like actually look into their lives. I want to test my skills.
Starting point is 00:22:39 So I would say, give me a first name and the city that they live in. And I'm going to Google Facebook Instagram whatever and let me see if I can find out about them and tell me if I'm right. Don't let her sell you on that. She wanted a lot more than that. She wanted the whole story. She wanted to know how we met. Well, that I wanted to know the story.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah, exactly. She wanted a whole story. Because I love hearing about it. That's why we started this podcast because we would talk about this on the phone. But on our road trip. That's when you were starting to dive in and be like, I need to find, I need their name. I need the rough age, city that they're from. I will find them. I will find out whatever information about them. I'm like, you know, I literally don't care. It was just a challenge for me because I get excited that I'm still really good at that.
Starting point is 00:23:18 My older sister is equally if not better. It was something for you to do on the road when we were driving for 35 hours. And I love a good stocking session. So this particular woman girl comes into conversation and I don't know her age. I do remember him saying she was younger and then I find her and I show him the photo and he said, yep, that's her.
Starting point is 00:23:43 And I was like, oh, she's so pretty. Like, she's so attractive. And then I see the year she's born. She's still single. Guess what year she was born? Well, now we know because Luke said it, but she was born the year I graduated high school. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Yeah. So then. You know what's kind of like Jake Gyllenhaal and Taylor Swift, you know, if you go back to that. I mean, that's true and I think that's weird too. Okay, that's true. I mean, not weird, but just I don't. I don't. Obviously, a much lower, yeah, everyone knows what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Yes. So then though, not celebrity level. So then we are at Luke's friends house in Indiana, and we're playing cards against humanity, and we're having like the best time, and we're like a little tipsy and all this stuff. There were like four couples there. And most of your friends are older in Indiana, like my age, if you will, it may be a little bit older than that, right? Yeah, in the 40s, typically. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:34 And so one of the couples ends up leaving as we're playing cards against. And I don't know why it came up or what triggered your life. I don't remember exactly what you said either. No, I just said, there was something that came up like in the cards against and I was like, oh my gosh, wait, so do you guys know about like the child that Luke dated last summer, that like young girl
Starting point is 00:24:58 or something along those lines? And then I said her first name. And all six of them start cracking up like a roar of laughter. And so in the moment I'm thinking, so they do know, am I missing something? What is this laugh and I'm laughing with them, but like there's something else. And what did they say, Luke? They said to her dad and stepmom, I just walked out the door. I was fucking mortified. The color left my face. I might have failed to mention to Kristen that fact and you know, we'll see you came to this party.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Yeah, I might have like spaced that. It might have. It was a fleeting thought as when we were on our way back. That I was hanging out with the young girls' parents. And my whole thing was, what if I had said that out loud in front of them? I would have thrown up Okay, but is she still single
Starting point is 00:25:50 Ask this a long time ago. It's true. We'll talk offline. I okay. I I'd I've not stayed in touch with it Yeah, that's fair. I'll sign your room though. I am stalker of all of us. So okay, no problem I mean that's true. You just don't care as much as I do I don't know No, no, this is all jokes when's true. You just don't care as much as I do. I don't, no, no, this is all jokes. When there are things that I can't find out, that's when I call my brother. Yeah. And like, here's an email address.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Can you tell me the IP address? What do we, I need to, I need to contact this person. Yeah. Oh, we're so weird. We are. We are. Ryan, do you think you're ever going to get married again? Nope.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Nope. That's a hard no. Okay. So I know you're never having kids again, because that's an even harder no. Yeah. I guess married maybe, maybe. You're only the wife's partner whether or not it's like government official, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I don't see why we should involve the government in our relationships. It's the issue I have with marriage Yeah, I agree with you on a level. Yeah, so you know, I get the pomp and ceremony Yeah, like the party. You want the party? Yeah, where the girl does? Well, frankly, you don't though Look what about you and some couples it's at least the wedding we were at it was definitely more Greg's party than Rachel's But what do you want? Do you want the party or do you think like the girl wants the party?
Starting point is 00:27:08 To me, I love throwing a good party. So that is certainly part of it. As far as the marriage goes, I think that it draws back to the way I was raised. And I feel like that makes the level of connection and the more likelihood for a successful long-term relationship. I don't think you hear too much about people that are lifelong partners that actually don't get married,
Starting point is 00:27:30 don't tie the knot, don't share those things. Goldie, Han and Kurt Russell are the only ones I can think of. There's one example out of, no, literally I said it's the only thing I can think of. Nine billion people in the world. So I think it's a sign of a way to show your commitment to that other person that you were going to put them first and put the relationship first. And so I'm not opposed to marriage.
Starting point is 00:27:49 I'm not necessarily in a hurry to get married. But what? What? I'm just kidding. We always thought we were going to do a backwards. Well, like have a baby. We'll have a baby. Maybe we'll get married then we'll start dating.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Well, we're already dating. Well, we're already dating. Well, we've got to let the kids get old enough to be the ring bear and the flower girl, and then we can get married. Then you know, that makes me start training the dogs now. I'm not against, yeah. For me, at my age now, whatever happens first, it happens. If you're my person, you're my person.
Starting point is 00:28:22 So if we get pregnant, we have a baby first, and then down the road, we get married great. As long as you stick by me, it's just about commitment. Right. It's all about commitment, doing what you say you're going to do. But I really want the fucking party. For your person. I want the party. I like the party.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I love the party. Commitment is terrifying, but I love the party. Oh no. I see I'm not afraid of commitment at all. Oh yeah. I've had a future. I've had a future sport for 10 years and I still want the same dress. I've changed my ring. Luke knows what kind of ring I want. We actually went to our we went to a
Starting point is 00:28:52 jeweler. We didn't really talk about wedding rings. Yes we did. We pulled out briefly. We touched. I made Kyle Chan pull out the exact like shape that I want and we discussed. And black car or it's a trap, Luke. We discussed. I want an emerald cut. And then we talked about lab diamonds, because I would love to know how you guys feel about lab diamonds, because I'm fully in for it.
Starting point is 00:29:15 It's not about the price and the rarity. For me, it's not. I would rather have something like that that's not like a blood diamond, essentially. There's other negative things that come from mining in general. I know. I'm just saying for me, if you're destroying mountains to find diamonds, they're not good from that, whether or not people are coming to each other over them.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Conservationists in New. They can make them in a lab. Diamonds are not scarce. My point is, all I want is to apply is controlled by the significantly so. Yeah. That's boring But all I want is a token to show that you love me I want the moment and I want the token whatever that token looks like right so we a lope and throw a party right I'm pretty down for that to be honest boom boom my friend Janet and Jason did that you guys know Janet
Starting point is 00:30:03 Well now Janet Copperna, Janet Elizabeth. But I love that they just did a small wedding by themselves with, I think it was just her aunt and uncle in LA. And then they went to Tahiti. They had their honeymoon essentially. And that's where they had their wedding, just the two of them. And we all got to watch it live. They had like a feed up. And I just thought that was like so cool. And we all got to watch it live. They had a feed up and I just thought that was so cool
Starting point is 00:30:26 and we all celebrated it there. We had an engagement party in LA where all of their family and friends flew out and I just thought that was so romantic, so less stress and pretty awesome. Yeah, I like that. Last thing I wanna do is have a 500 person wedding. You know, where?
Starting point is 00:30:44 Yeah, it's not for me. And at the same time it's like at some point you're gonna to do is have a 500 person wedding. You know, where- It's, yeah, it's not for me. And at the same time, it's like at some point, you're going to burn somebody if you throw a big wedding. Somebody, they're like, oh, you invited this person, but I didn't get an invite. Somebody's not going to be happy about it. We both have a lot of friends and a lot of people that may expect to or, I don't know, it just would be better. I think you can throw a party and whoever comes comes cool.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I think that's where- And then the wedding party too. Okay, so I also want to say, the wedding this is where I battle. And then the wedding party too. Well that, okay, so I also want to say, the wedding parties were at what I battle with, because I'm like, oh, I want to choose Bridesmaid's dresses, and I want like my friends by my side, but I just have way too many, like close girlfriends that I just love
Starting point is 00:31:16 and adore so much from not only Michigan, but like California. And I feel like maybe I would just have my sister, and then my sister, and then my sister from another mister, Amy, my very best friend for the last 25 plus years. I feel like I would just maybe have the two of them, but then make sure all my girlfriends knew
Starting point is 00:31:35 that they were like just as celebrated, you know? Yeah. I don't want 12 girls standing by my side. Okay. That shit is so hard. But if you think about the Bachelor at party, like you probably want 12 girls there with you. Oh, I want 12 girls standing by my side. Okay. That shit is so hard. But if you think about the Bachelor at party, like you probably want 12 girls there with you. Oh, I want like 50 or a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Yeah, yeah, and I don't need to be in the grooms moon or best man or anything like that. But you want to come to the bachelor. I want to be at the bachelor. Yeah, okay. You're spot on. You got me. You can get a Bachelor party, Ryan, so.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I didn't get anything. No, none of the above. But I want to meet these girls. You are 21 when you got married. Not even. No, none of the above, but I wanted me to score 21 girls. You got very not even though I was 19. She, oh, I thought she was 18. You're only 20.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Excuse me, I was 20. Yeah, I was 21 when he was born. When, when, when, when, when, I was 20. Yeah, I was 20. He was five months. I was 21. Oh my god, that's so wild. We started young.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Yeah, but you, yeah, you didn't get like the Jefferson stuff. We didn't do anything of, yeah, no, it was courthouse and then Luke could have male strippers and fine with that. I volunteer. I volunteer, actually, you volunteer to tribute.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I'll be there. I will be there. Luke, I dance like a motherfucker. I got this. Ryan, how much do you love Luke? I'm going to blow him on this podcast. Oh, okay good Then I don't have to no, yeah, and gross, but yes to completion. Yeah, I mean depends if you start the job You might as well. Yeah, I mean I'm a trooper. Yeah, I'm anything if I'm anything
Starting point is 00:32:57 If if you guys here are Kristen monologuing for eight to nine minutes, just know that's what's happening Throw up. I hate those if you don't look. No, you just won't, don't look. Ryan, how much cooler am I now than I used to be? Way cooler. You were the worst. And it was Luke, your favorite boyfriend of mine. Yes, so far he's off to a really good start.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Yeah, well the three of us, we said last week but we're all in a fantasy football team together. So we have FaceTime, my brother. Luke should auto-drafted. I definitely, that's my, that's my actually my team's name should have auto drafted. It's, it's, it was a rough season. Auto draft beat me in the championship. If that, if Michelle, who is my friend, Rochelle, who
Starting point is 00:33:34 were staying in her house, if her, her friend, none of us even know who she is. We're like, I have no clue. No, we're literally convinced that our commissioner might have just made like a spare team because somehow she's like in First place right now. It's my first time podcasting. This might be inappropriate But who is who is Michelle? I really don't know. I know who this is. Nope. Nope. No, okay Rochelle at the room might be able to enlighten us. Yeah, we'll have that as her because she's Dominating everybody and it's bullshit and she's not played at all. She didn't draft.
Starting point is 00:34:05 She hasn't made any moves. Okay, so she's done. Here's the other thing about an auto draft team being the best team in the league. It's because we all suck at drafting. Let's just say what it is. Yeah, yeah, just call it out. The best player on the board when their draft comes around
Starting point is 00:34:17 goes to them. Yeah, that's it. Call it out. All of us just didn't take the right, we just suck at drafting. We thought we were being smarter than all the rest. We're out of the red. And we're 40 seconds over here like, we were being smarter than all the rest. We're 40 jazz, man. We're 40 jazz over here like, oh, I'm going to take this one.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And she just auto-picked and we looked. It's just like, oh, top ranked player on the board? On my team. Top ranked player on the board? On my team. That's all that happened. So Luke and I have a lot of sex on Sundays because we both left football. This conversation's getting a little dull for me.
Starting point is 00:34:41 So why don't we go to some, ask me anythings? Yeah. Because that's what we promised y'all right. Y'all ask us some questions and we're here to answer and Ryan if you want to weigh in if I need them strike your fancy. Yeah sure first question was Kristen a troublesome child. Yeah, she was awful. I was awful. I'm not reading the sheet. I'm just making this up. That's not mean. I mean that's, she was vicious to me. Well, but yeah, continue with the actual sheet. I'm just making this up. That's not me. She was vicious to me. Well, I was continued with the actual sheet. Okay. Question was submitted by Rye Rye 69. And there's the answer. Two shits. Okay, for real though. So fairy Jane on Instagram asked Luke and I, have we been to shorts and sandies? What is our favorite date? Okay, so we've been to shorts and sandies? And what is our favorite date? Okay, so we've been to shorts and sandies a couple times.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Twice. Yeah, we went before it was open and just got to see it during the day. And then we went on their like actual first opening night. Right. And it was awesome. And I'm so fucking proud of both of them. So, so proud that they did this all on their own. Like very few investors like I'm'm not gonna, you know, talk about their business, but I'm over the moon
Starting point is 00:35:49 for both of them. I don't know if you guys know, but when Schwartz moved here, Tom, Santa Ball and I were the first people that he ever met. He literally got in his Honda Civic, drove from Tallahassee to California, and just showed up at our doorstep after they met, unlike Craigslist or roommate finder or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Mailed and attracted to the landlord and was like, hey, I'm here. Tom S. Meet Tom S. Both 26 years old. And now they own not one, but two bars together. Freakin' wild story. That's love right there. This one, this one though. Oh wait, what's your favorite date? Our favorite date.
Starting point is 00:36:22 So it's harder to find dates with Kristen. I feel like we don't follow any kind of classic model for- My favorite was Red Rocks. Okay. Going to see Third Eye Blind and taking back Sunday at Red Rocks. Even though it wasn't just the two of us, I thought that was like a pretty magical like turning moment
Starting point is 00:36:38 for us. And also we went to what was that city called cripple creek? Cripple Creek. No, we went to Manitou Springs. Oh, sorry. Manitou Springs. And we went to all the little arcade, old-school arcades.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And we just walked around and saw some weird haunted-y things supposedly. Yeah, that nice, very memorable. That whole night was real. Just that whole weekend was very magical and memorable. That was the first time we saw each other again after the wedding. So the wedding was just like, three weeks prior to that. Three weeks prior to that.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And it was just, we didn't hang out at all until basically the ceremony. And then the reception. And then we stayed in the hotel together, got breakfast, and she took off. Yeah, we had sex behind the tent. And then he came to the hotel, and then we forgot to mention that.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Yeah, I went for a couple more rounds. And then in the morning, yeah, I got breakfast. Sorry, Ryan. Yeah, I'm okay. And she took off and then three weeks later, she comes back to Denver for this concert. I picked her up in the airport, went down to Colorado Springs, went to Manchu Springs, went up to the concert, yada yada, awesome time. That was my favorite date.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I think the most memorable, because I think the more just one-on-one quality time that we had was Joshua Tree. Oh, Joshua Tree. When we went to Janice Birthday. Yeah. It was a few days, but we had four and a half hours in the car on the way down there, just us, no dogs, and it was also like feeling each other's out,
Starting point is 00:37:59 our music. She had me DJ the whole way. And yeah, we're kind of music. Well, this is the best part. Like I was very shocked on how much we love the same music. She had me DJ the whole way. And yeah, we're kind of music. Well, this is the best part. Like I was very shocked on how much we love the same music. Well, so I, I like rap. I like M&M rap and we're hearing Detroit and Christians from Detroit. So right there immediately, Christians like, wait, I know it's every word. How do you know more M&M than I do? Truly. He does know more M&M, especially lyrics. Like Luke, if you give Lucas
Starting point is 00:38:23 song name, he could not tell you the artist to save his life, but he knows every lyric to like every song. Country. You're a spirit animal son. Yeah, country rap. Same way. Rock, pop, rock. You just know the lyrics to everything.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Yeah, if I hear the song a few times, I pretty well pick up that. Yeah. So. No, that was a really, yeah, that was a really good time. Okay, so from Pamela Mstone, where did we meet and how long have we been together? We sort of touched on this, but we originally met in Denver in 2019. I was dating someone, it was on Rachel O'Brien's podcast tour that I did a few legs of her
Starting point is 00:38:57 tour, and that is actually the first time we met. We hung out a bit, but then we didn't see each other again until the wedding. Yeah, and when you say met, it's kind of loose because there weren't three sentences between us that were just between the two of us. It was like we're in the same group together. There was no getting to know each other whatsoever. Right. The only time I remember her saying anything,
Starting point is 00:39:17 so I had eaten some mushroom chocolates and the ex-boyfriend told me I was at a control or something and I didn't understand, but they're like, we gotta go, you're tripping too hard, I'm like, I'm not, I'm fine. Anyway, I could pull it out of the bar and Kristen grabs my hand and says, Uber's here and says, get in and I jump in and I said, Kristen, why are you being so forward? And she starts laughing and then the ex-boyfriend goes, yeah, Kristen, why are you being so forward? That's all I remember from that trip with Kristen. Yeah. And how long have we been together? I wish that I remembered the day.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Well, in this, I'm going to tie this in with another question from Alicia and 3086 who asked who out. But I wish I could remember the day that you said, I said, we were joking about something. We were flirting, we were at my apartment, and I said, oh my God, who are you? And you said, your boyfriend? That was the first day we said that word, and I was like, oh my God, you're right, you are. But I do remember when you said, I love you.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Even though you tried to backtrack, it was at the airport in Colorado. Was it or was it the airport in Indiana? Or Indiana. Indiana. I dropped you off after the first day. Yeah. And you were like all like flabbergasted and blushing was there in Indiana? Is there important Indiana? Indiana. I dropped you off after the first day. Yeah, and you were like all like flabbergasted and blushing and like tripping over your words
Starting point is 00:40:29 and you're like, I want to tell you something better, I'm gonna say it, blah, blah, blah, and then you were like, I love you. But not like, not like I'm in love with you, just like, I love you, it's like a person. But I'm not like, you know, like no pressure, like I'm not like in love with you and I was like, oh my god, you're so in love with me. That's the main way to do it. Yeah, it was just a little back to it. You're blushing right now.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Yeah, after your face is hot here. It's hot here, isn't it? Yeah. Oh my goodness, Chris. I like the blush on this face. It sounds like Kristen's about to monologue. And Luke, do you plan on having children? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Yeah, same here. The answer's yes. I want to. To. No more. No way there's more is if it's one and then twins, then it's like you got to go for the rest. Yeah, you got to have it in even number. You guys can have mine.
Starting point is 00:41:12 And he's already grown. Yeah, it doesn't count. Doesn't I do have him. He's my angel. All right. So my questions, Emily Martin, 718, asked me if professional frisbee players get paid or get paid much. And in a couple of years I was there, we did not get paid. However, in the sport, it was definitely the cheapest way to play. They supplied all of our uniforms and cleats and they paid for our food and our travel and hotels and all that stuff. They covered all that cost normally. In the sport, when you're playing at a high level, you're covering the cost.
Starting point is 00:41:44 The sport hasn't grown to the point where teams typically have enough sponsors where someone else is paying for your stuff. So it was the cheapest way to play the sport I loved at the highest level I could. That's why I did it. Yeah. So I'm going to jump in. I'm looking at me like, I'm shocked. Yeah, I didn't know professional frisbee player.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Please tell me just briefly, maybe this was covered on another episode. No, it wasn't. Okay, great. Please tell me. No, we haven't covered it. But Kristen saw me play frisbee for the first time on Monday. I started playing in middle school, got a joke of a scholarship in college, played for four years there and played for the Indianapolis professional team.
Starting point is 00:42:20 The Indianapolis Alley Cats for two years. Yeah, I didn't even know frisbee was the sport. And this isn't, this isn't, I know. It's not disc golf, it's very different. And you guys can YouTube it. If you look up Luke, Broderick Alley, like Indianapolis Alley Cats, there's some stuff on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And it's essentially the way I view it is like, if football, soccer, and a tiny bit of basketball had a baby because it's like a football field, but when you catch it, you only can pivot. You can't run with the ball. Frisbee. I mean, with the Frisbee, thank you. Disc, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:54 With the Frisbee. You can't run with the Frisbee, you can only pivot. And you can intercept it and it's... Ultimate Frisbee. Yes, okay, Frisbee, okay. But it's just wild. You guys, the way they throw these effing first b's, like we take his dogs to the park and throw first b's
Starting point is 00:43:10 and I suck at it. And they know how to like, when I was at your game the other day and having your teammates coach sort of yell to you guys, they sort of coach you on the side, like inside, outside, left side, and to watch these people throw a Frisbee, it was a co-ed league, women and men, and know exactly how to curve the Frisbee around someone to the inside, like it's just wild.
Starting point is 00:43:35 It's like really insane. It takes a lot of time. It takes a long time. I was lucky when I first started playing. I learned how to throw, what they call a forehand or flick with super ease. I mean, most people have a hard time when you hold it typically. I love a forehand or swing.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yeah, I'm all about that life. Tell me more, flick it right here. A forehand or flick, flick the bean, let's go. Yeah, all right, too far. Anyway, regardless, throwing a Frisbee is definitely a skill and not a lot of people have it, like throwing a football or whatever. But yeah, so Luke played professional Frisbee,
Starting point is 00:44:04 that is why I get to call myself a Jersey Chaser now. And I like it. She wears my old Jersey's more than I do. That's true. I wear them to bed when we're long distance. To my next question, which is from J. Cars is long distance difficult. And then from N Kent, 1010, are we living together?
Starting point is 00:44:24 Which it's kind of a question, they're kind of the same. Yeah, so well, I guess if you took the last two months as a sample size, you'd say, we're living together more than we are. Yeah, we came to California, we kind of said this last time, but he was there for about six weeks. I still have, would basically had my truck, my dogs, and a suitcase full of clothes. I would left some clothes there. I was like, can I leave some clothes? I'm like, dude, I have a two bedroom apartment with five closets.
Starting point is 00:44:49 We've whatever you want here. Right, yeah. And it's long distance difficult. I think we've done, well, I'll say you've done a really great job at keeping us not too far apart for too long. Right, you know, the wedding was in Colorado. You came to Denver after that. I came to California, then I came to California again.
Starting point is 00:45:06 You came to Indiana. We both went to Mexico. I came to California. Yeah. And so it's been both sides. The longest we've been apart since July would be three weeks. Three weeks, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, it's not easy.
Starting point is 00:45:18 It is tough, I can't say. It's not easy. We face time a lot. We talk on the phone. Hours and hours and hours of the day. I think that's my favorite thing is that we both realize we get a lot more done because we are self-employed, we're entrepreneurs, we have to sort of set our own schedule
Starting point is 00:45:32 and work on our own time. And our favorite thing to do when we're doing the laundry and cleaning the apartment and organizing and all of that, is just like stick our headphones in and we just talk on the phone while we're getting shit done. Yeah, all the household chores. And Kristen will say she's been very open. She likes to have a handler or someone else there with her,
Starting point is 00:45:53 just for her to do something, whether it's cleaning out or closet or organizing something. Yeah, I don't like being alone. It's so boring. I just sit on the phone and let her talk to me most of the time while I'm doing whatever else, and I chime in once in a while, so she knows I'm still there. Or ask you to tell me stories while I'm like getting shit done. Do you see mushrooms?
Starting point is 00:46:09 It's a wise choice. A wise choice, yeah. But I like mushrooms. Whatever. Okay, next from Kim's the best, did I freeze my eggs? I have not frozen my eggs. I is something I considered many, many years ago. It was right around the time
Starting point is 00:46:26 that Shina and Shea got divorced. It was when Shina and I, right before that, Shina and I had gone to a fertility doctor together, and I was highly considering it because I was still in my mid-30s. It didn't end up happening, and now it's not completely off the table. However, I've just seen the emotional toll that it can take, having putting all of those hormones into your body. And I'm emotional as it is, guys. And I'm older, and I just, I don't know if it's for me. I have slight regret. I didn't do it five, six years ago. But no, I don't think I'm going to. I'm hoping for the best. I had my fertility levels checked about a year and a half ago.
Starting point is 00:47:07 I'm sorry, my hormone levels checked. I had my ovaries checked. Everything looked good. I have not tried to, you know, I haven't like gone on my ovulation day and said like let's go for it yet. So I think, you know what I think might be in God's hands. Yeah, anything that increases Christen's emotional level is not necessary. It's really, it might be in God's hands. Yeah, anything that increases Christians' emotional level is not necessary.
Starting point is 00:47:27 It's really, it's just highly unnecessary. I'm with Ryan. Yep. Yep, yep, this is fact. Jesus, she's emotional enough for both of us. Absolutely. I love heart and I feel feelings for her. For her heart, well, it's really fun.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can calm her. Yeah. We're both interested, but for the wrong reasons. Yeah, Jesus can. Yep. Oh, man. All right, next question.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Let's go cat, cow, 86. There was a question. Why do I still want to have sex with an ex after I had caught him cheating? Ooh. That is. We want to take it first. I think we can all give a short answer,
Starting point is 00:48:04 so we don't take too long. I'll give my quick short answer. Quick short answer is it's comfortable. You're familiar with them. You have a connection. You know that that was there. You made a mistake. Even if you have this block up,
Starting point is 00:48:14 you don't want to get back in a relationship with them. It is a safe in your head. It is someone you know, you're familiar. You're comfortable. That's what it is. That's kind of what I'm thinking too. It's just like, it's familiar and it's home. You know, it feels like home. Yeah, and if you have a sex drive
Starting point is 00:48:31 and you want to roll the dice with some dude, you met at the bar that night. When you guys are talking about or considering having sex, he's probably being the best version of himself that he was when you guys fell in love for that moment. If he regrets it. You know what I mean though? If he regrets it, I mean.
Starting point is 00:48:45 What do you mean? I mean, I think there are guys that cheat and maybe cheat as a way out of a relationship. Oh. So. Oh. And then it's not necessarily a mistake. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Or he's faithy. Either he's being the best version of himself to get laid or because he really regrets cheating and wants to be with you. I think either way, I think, in my experience, human beings become the best version of themselves all over again in order to like, rekindle something even if it's bullshit or for one night.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Ryan, what do you think? No comment. No? No, no, this is too close to home. I don't, I don't want this one. You don't have an opinion on it? No, all right. All right, let me have this one
Starting point is 00:49:25 All right, question from Rob Schulte. We got this in email Can you define emotional IQ? Oh, yeah, because Luke has spoken about his his emotional IQ. He cute. It's important Yeah, the EQ so My definition would be basically the ability to Recognize when you're feeling a certain way and then take the time to recognize when you're feeling a certain way and then take the time to identify why you're feeling that way. That's kind of your emotional IQ because then you have the power or essentially the ability or tools to do what you want with that. That's my definition. It's not from webster dictionary or anything, but that's how I would define it.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Yeah, and of course I looked it up just to give everyone the Google, if you will, definition, or whatever it is, but essentially the ability to understand, use, and manage your own emotions in positive ways to relieve stress, communicate effectively, empathize with others, overcome challenges, and diffuse conflict. Ryan?
Starting point is 00:50:22 I work in sales. I work in enterprise sales, and EQ has always been kind of my strength and I did not view it either of the ways that you guys just described it. I thought of it more as how you interpret other people emotions, other people's feelings and how you react to them, how you understand them. I always thought I had a high EQ because I could talk to customers and prospects and people who are considering purchasing my product and I would be able to intuitively understand the things that they cared about, the things that were important to them without them telling me.
Starting point is 00:50:59 That's how I always thought of it. What do you think about in a romantic relationship aspect? I don't think it's any different. I think understanding the person that you're with and what is important to them emotionally, the things that they care about. And how they've gone through and all of the above and having that hit you. Like have an empathy for it precisely. Actually, it's a well said empathy. Yeah. Being able to have that hit you and be important to you, even if it's not important to you, because it's important to them. That's what EQ is to me. Preach sister, preach.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Brother, but the difference is in our definitions, Ryan says it's more on keeping your cool and focusing on the other person. That's the way I would simplify it. I think we're, I think we're, we're all saying kind of the same. It's outward versus internal, but exactly. Yeah. Ultimately, it's about having people understand each other's emotions and what's important to each other. Ultimately, don't be a selfish asshole. Yeah. Kind of. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Don't be a narcissist. Yeah. You know what I mean? This is from, oh my God. Okay, wait, I love this screen name. I wouldn't let you see it ahead of time. This is from PGH, my three sons. PGH. Yeah, isn't that golfing? That's PGA.
Starting point is 00:52:18 PGA. Damn it. I got so excited. All right, well, this is from PGH, my three sons. I thought it was about golf. Do you still have PGH, this is from PG H, my three sons. I know it's what golf. Do good old PGH Tiger Woods PG H boy. Do you still have any pets? You guys, I post nothing but my two flip and dogs, Gibson and Bowie, Luke has two dogs and another podcast we will discuss the difficulties that come into play. Having four fucking dogs. And just dating in general between allergies and just all their
Starting point is 00:52:48 responsibilities that go with pets. If someone does or does not have pets, we're going to have another episode about that. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. And this one's from Nicole M. Klingk. What will be your first Christmas tradition that you will repeat each year?
Starting point is 00:53:02 I say it's not coming to fucking Midwest. That's not a tradition we started we're here. So that's not what we can start next year. I think the real tradition that we started now, it's mutual complaining about buying gift cards. Yes, that's that's our tradition. That'll know it. Give me a high five. I give everybody cash.
Starting point is 00:53:22 That's my thing. Yeah, yeah, I'll then know you. I hate Christmas. I hate Christmas so much. Yeah, so every year. Just can I give everybody cash. That's my thing. Yeah, yeah, I'll then know you. I hate Christmas. I hate Christmas so much. Yeah, so every year I give you money. I don't want to guess. My mine and Ryan's older sister who lives in Michigan still I literally just say go buy a bunch of stuff. Tell me how much I'll then vote you. Will you go shopping for me? Yeah, exactly buy yourself something and I'll pay for it. Yep. I'll just spend more you money. Yeah Okay, this is from IMPCAT, favorite dessert. Mine is gummy bears.
Starting point is 00:53:48 I don't like desserts. It's not a real dessert. Well, it's my favorite dessert. It's candy. Yeah. Well, I like cookies over cake. Oh, I love dulce de la leche from a spoon. I will eat caramel just because I look so into the dessert.
Starting point is 00:53:57 You're inspired by a lukewarm dessert. I'm not a sweet-scold guy. I mean, I like it all, to be honest with you. There's very little I won't try. I'm not a sweet-scold guy. I'm not a sweet-scold guy. I'm not a sweet-scold guy. I'm not a sweet-scold guy. I'm not a sweet-scold guy. I'm not a sweet-scold guy. I'm not a sweet-sco otherwise that's I'm not a sweet girl guys. I mean I like it all to be honest with either very little
Starting point is 00:54:09 I won't try I'm like I want to look bite of this I want three bites of that Anyway, but in general I'm in classic chocolate chip cookies are great. I like pumpkin cookies. I like chocolate in general Yeah, yeah, I'm in Luke's camp. I I'm a cook guy. I'm not a sweet guy, but I do. The cooky monster. Yeah, love cooky, man. Any kind of cookie, something I can dip in milk. I'm all about that life. Oh my God, Ryan, on the way here on our road trip,
Starting point is 00:54:34 I bought some more pop tarts. I bought a good gas station. I ripped the ends off and I only ate the middle, but I was telling Luke how. Talked to me to make you go. I was telling Luke how when we were little, mom would go grocery shopping at the beginning of the week and she was like, I'm buying the spending pop charts.
Starting point is 00:54:48 If they're gone before that end of the week, you don't get it anymore. And you would take them in your room and then all the pop charts. I would, just more ones. All right, I think that's about it for this episode. Okay, wait, wait, no, I have one more. Just to feed y'alls, vander, pumpiness.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I have from Seville Sizer 04, two questions Luke in there for us. Luke, have you seen an episode of Vander pump rules? And then also was it weird for both of us, either of us at Sheena's wedding being all the cameras were there? Okay, short answer no. You've never seen an episode? I've never watched an episode. Kristen has shown me super funny clips. Funny clips. Like battered wife, see, uh, you know, all of that.
Starting point is 00:55:32 So I've shown Luke, yeah, some really funny. And like, I've shown you like a couple of like sweet things, just like little clips. Um, and then was it weird for us at Sheena's wedding? So Luke, you want to answer first? Then I? Oh, so I wasn't even supposed to be at the wedding. I was supposed to be in Mexico fishing while the wedding was going on. And then Janet's mom broke her leg at the pool. And they were like, there's a seat open. Luke, you get to go now.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Like cool. Yeah, I can go. Yeah, I'll go. Who was it weird for you, Al? It was weird for me, one, because. Well, you've never been around anything like that, I would assume. Okay, the cameras were part of it. Also, I just didn't have, one, I didn't have clothes for it, two.
Starting point is 00:56:10 I was, had been gone too many months without a haircut, so I just didn't feel, I didn't have the confidence. I didn't feel like I was dressed appropriately and think I looked good and there are cameras everywhere. I felt like there were judging eyes around me. So that was more uncomfortable than this for me. I think I would have been much better if I had the right appropriate attire and the haircut.
Starting point is 00:56:30 If you just felt better, you felt more in your own skin. Yeah, if you've never done it before. I mean, like just to have all the cameras around you, it's awkward. I'm with you, man. That's weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:40 And I have some river to answer this. I did answer this. Yeah, it made me emotional. Mostly, to be honest, like, it was more daunting going into it than it was being there. I, out of respect, tried to avoid all of the cameras because I didn't want to ruin their shot. I wasn't willing to be on camera,
Starting point is 00:56:58 but it made me emotional to see all of my crew members. Because that was my family for a decade. So the first time I saw anyone from my old crew, whether it was like camera guy, a producer, sound guy, I was like full on waterworks. But otherwise like we were pretty good in China, it sat us really far away from, you know where cameras would be
Starting point is 00:57:19 so we didn't have to sort of avoid things. We stayed at a different hotel, but I'm really happy that I went because I didn't want to miss one of my closest friends' weddings with her actual person. I'm with Luke on this, right? Yeah. Well, Ryan, you filmed before it, never heard.
Starting point is 00:57:36 I had. True. And he, he will not be named the partner. Oh, oh, that's awesome. Yeah, well, nope, nope, nope, nope. The cast member. Stop naming can names. The cast member who will not be named.
Starting point is 00:57:50 I remember being a sir and having a wonderful time. I was having drinks and he who will not be named was potentially there and I wanted to beat the fucking breaks off him, frankly. We all feel that way. Yep, I did and. You also filmed at home with me in Parker. I did, I did, I did.
Starting point is 00:58:08 And I didn't air. All I were- no, I did not. But I remember the moment at Surr when I was there. And that guy showed up and production told me and I really wanted to go- I mean, I just- I wish you were there. And then motherfucker, I do. I- I wish you were there.
Starting point is 00:58:24 I do. To this day, if wish you were the mother fucker. I do. I wish you were the, I do. To this day, if I ever see him, game on. Game on, bitch. All right, guys, well, thanks for tuning in to this fun episode about a road trip. We'll catch up with you next week. So glad you guys got to meet my brother. Glad we got to answer some of your questions.
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