Sex, Love, and What Else Matters - Welcome to the Judgement Free Zone

Episode Date: December 1, 2022

Episode 1. Kristen introduces co-host Luke Broderick and shares how they met, including details about their juicy hookup at a friend’s wedding. They discuss Kristen’s curiosity and desire to dig-in to the male mind, Luke’s willingness to divulge, and the differences between big city vs. small town dating. Welcome to the judgment-free zone where no topic is off limits!  Follow us: @kristendoute @luke__broderick Email us: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What is up you guys? Welcome to the very first episode of Sex, Love, and What All Smatters. I am your host, Kristen. If you do not know me, I was on a little show called Vanderpump Rules for many years and I wrote a book A dating book called he's making you crazy how to get the guy get even and get over it based on all of my experiences So yeah, I've dated a ton of people and honestly, I just feel a lot of feelings. I love love I love being in love. I love happily ever after I love rom coms I love the whole she, I love happily ever after, I love rom coms, I love the whole

shebang, and I think that people love love as well. And who doesn't like sex and who doesn't like talking about sex and dating experiences. So that's what I'm here to do. Give you an unfiltered, unedited, sexy, raw version of everything that I've been through and I'm going through. I'm currently in my apartment, that's right, I said apartment, and in the valley, here in Los Angeles, California, and I would now like to introduce you to my better half of this podcast, my other half. You do not know him, but you will. And he's a dude, he has a dude brain, so Luke Broderick, welcome to the podcast. Thanks, Kristen.

Wow, that was quite the introduction. I don't know if I'm better half quite yet, but I'll work to get there. Super stoked to be here, talk about all the cool things that you just mentioned. It's all the stuff we talk about on daily basis anyway. That's true. And I want to just kind of fill you guys in

on why I chose not to do this podcast solo. Being like, I was on a reality show with a cast ensemble and in my other like entrepreneurial endeavors, I prefer to work in like a partnership dynamic. I like bouncing ideas off of other people. And truly when it came to talking about sex, dating, relationships, I can only speak on my own experiences and the experiences of the guests that I will be interviewing. But

I really think it is so fascinating to get the male perspective, to get that male psychology brain like talking about all these cool things. And I'm sure most of you women are like this as well, like with ex-boyfriends of mine or like my best closest guy friends, I always caught myself asking them either on my behalf or my friends behalf, like why did this guy do this? Like why did he not do this?

Blah, blah, blah. So that's why I call Luke. Why I'm here. I'm here to answer those questions to be the one trying to make sense of most men make things men say trying to make sense and figure out where they're coming from. And I just want to thank you first and foremost and up front and let everybody know. Luke is so vulnerable, so honest. Obviously, I have no freaking filter.

So, Luke, why are you this vulnerable? I mean, we'll get into this more. You guys, obviously, as the podcast goes on, but Luke and I are on the phone for hours and hours a day when we first became friends. We'll get into that story later. But why do you think it is at 31, you're 31 years old, like why do you think it is that you're so willing to be honest

and open and vulnerable on a platform such as this? Because we're not talking into a vacuum. Oh, I'm, yeah, I'm fully aware. And I'm also aware that none of my stories, my perspective, has never been on blast before. This is totally new to me. I've never even guessed it on a podcast before this. I have friends that do podcasts, but that's as far as that goes. You have such a sexy voice, though.

Well, thank you. You're also the first person to ever tell me that Ula la I don't spend enough time on the mic. I guess Well, I was like tell people about you Luke. So my name's Luke. You think you got that part I'm 31. I do believe I have maybe a higher Emotional IQ than the average 31 year old from a big city, grew up in a small town, have lived in mostly small towns, most of my life, Colorado Springs was the

biggest city I ever grew up in and that's still under a million people, so not a big city. That is bringing a different perspective from Chris into this and it's always been such a blast talking. We had one conversation for over six hours. We did. Yeah, I think what I really love about our friendship and our dynamic is we really share a lot of the same points of view, but we have very different life experiences. Very different.

We're both from the Midwest, but you have gone from a few big cities. You did a short-standing Miami. You've lived in LA for how many years now? 15 years. 15 years. 15 years. I haven't lived in any one place for that long except the house I grew up in.

But I mean, even more so, like, just are dating experiences. And maybe that does have to do with age, I don't know. But our dating experiences are vastly different. And that is why I think this is going to be so fascinating for all of the listeners. It's always eye-opening for me when you and I have all these discussions. And I just really love that you're willing to discuss sex intimacy in such a raw way, but also deep dive into like the psychology of, you know, the wise, answering all the wise, because I think that's what single people especially want to know, and even people

that are in relationships, it's like how to break down the psychology of the person that you're with. Yeah, I get it. And I think, like, my emotional IQ comes from, I had these long stretches of being single, which is the opposite of Kristen, what she was getting at. And in these periods, I've been so self-reflected. Look back and figure out the things I do wrong.

Maybe not my whole life, but most of my life have been quick to take responsibility for anything and everything involving me. Do you think that a lot of men though, I don't know, I don't wanna stereotype, but like, let's be real. A lot of dudes don't want to be open and vulnerable. They think it makes them look weak or it makes them not masculine.

You know what I mean? Yeah, most guys don't want to talk about emotions. I've got friends that when I try to open up about how I'm feeling, maybe about a girl I've started dating like, oh man, all these feelings are here, but my logic is telling me this can't work for reasons A, B, and C, but then there's all these reasons why this connection feels unique. It feels like something special.

It's something I really wanna pursue, but I don't know if it's possible with this and they're just like, oh yeah, well, I know, do what you wanna do. And that's what they're responding to. And that's what they're responding to. I was like, talk about it though, that's what you mean. Do you have any friends or the bulk of your friends?

You can only speak for yourself, but you are the man talking on this podcast. So do guys truly not talk about their feelings or do they just tell us they don't? I think the majority of men do not talk about their feelings with other men. If they do, they have one person, whether it's a brother or their best friend,

a platonic female friend, somebody that they feel safe with because it does come off as not masculine. So we are targeting you men out there as well as all my ladies, all my girls that are going to be listening here. Dude, we want to hear from you too, and we want you to listen and just make the world a more loving place. Have sex more often, be in love, stay in relationships,

like this is what the shit makes world go around you guys. I firmly believe that. Be a good person, that's the bottom line, right? Yeah, what do you think just off the bat are some differences because we do share like kind of the same like morals and ethics and we have a lot of the same points of view on a lot of things, right?

Right, but differences I may massively difference. morals and ethics and we have a lot of the same points of view on a lot of things, right? Right. But differences I may massively difference. You have much more creative mind and I have like a more mathematical, I got my degree in accounting, like I am very, by the numbers, by the logic, make a list of pros and cons. This is profitable, this is not, why would I do this? You always say risk over reward. No, versus reward, not over. Well, and you can't do anything if you don't take certain risks.

So taking risks is a part of life, whether people want to admit it or not. And I just do what I feel in the moment. Yeah. In the moment, this is how I feel emotionally logic is not necessary. I mean, not to say I'm never logical. I just happen to be much more emotional than I am logical. Do you think that that in your experience is a very like male versus female thing?

Or is that like a meaning thing? I definitely think that follows some gender stereotypes, typically, typically, obviously not every case, but men are the more logical side. They're the, I wanna say more organized, but like they make their decisions based on what makes sense, not based on what feels right. What is the right feeling?

They trust maybe they're gut over their heart, but ultimately comes down to their brain that makes the decision. And do you think that men as a whole think like sex over loving feelings? Do you think women love harder? Do you think men are afraid to be in love? These are just ballpark sort of like overall sort of questions. As far as afraid to be in love, that's definitely all genders in my opinion.

But I think that's a big difference between you and I where I'm like, I'll fall in love in 3.2 seconds. I used to anyway. Now as an older, I'm being a little more logical about that where you have expressed to me like how you you know barely been in love. Well my first heartbreak was a big one took me years to really actually get over it. I thought I was over it a number of times but then it would come back and it was like it's just always this lingering thing that

I was still in the back of my mind in love with the person that was first in love with in it lasted for years. Do you think you were like re-unloved with the idea of being in love with said person? No, I think it was like quality memories for years that we had both on the same page that we were going to be together and what I thought and then in college some things came up and ultimately my stubborn towards ass never gave it another chance when we had a short, I'll call it a short separation. I don't know if there was any disloyalty or not.

I didn't feel the need to dive into whether or not I got cheated on, but I just felt like I was moving on and never gave it another chance. See, I'll fall in love and then get broken up with and have my heart stomped and spit on. And then just find someone else and be like, oh, they're better than the last. I'm in love. Yeah, I'll make playlists. I'll doodle their last name with my first name.

Yeah, oh, I'm. You and your playlists. I want to be in love. I just think it is, I think just having a partner in life is one of the most magical things and procreation. So it makes the world go around, you know what I mean? Yeah, I love relationships. But I'm a relationship gypsy.

And I'm not, I've never jumped from one to the next at any point. And once I go through a breakup, there's typically, at least a year before I'm into another relationship. Oh God, no. Yeah. I'm like, ew, being alone, not so boring. My dogs don't give me enough attention.

But here we are, Luke flew all the way here from Indiana. Yesterday. Yesterday. And we're cooped up in my cute little apartment in Valley Village, and we're here to talk to you all and tell you some fucking stories. But the last thing I kind of want to say before we jump into the story, if you guys have read my book or if you've been an avid viewer of Vanderpump or know any of my friends from that show, I just want to say that like writing my book was the scariest thing I've ever done, also the most

rewarding. And I would put Vanderpump as like, that reality show is like the second most. This podcast, however, is the most vulnerable thing I have ever done and probably will ever do. So why do you think it is that you feel so comfortable being honest and open and like, why do you enjoy talking about this kind of stuff? Because you and I talk about this shit like five hours a day, whether we're recording or not.

Right, and I mean, that's the ultimate reason why you decided that, well, we essentially decided, I threw it out there that I'd come onto this with you. But you said as a guest and I was like, oh, homie, you gotta be my co-host because this is bass and neck, take me, go. I've gotta give Chris and credit though. She has kind of unlocked the side of me

that is more willing to share than I've ever been. And it's because she's so not judgmental, she's so real, she is all curious, interested, loves the stories. I think there's a lot of stories. Yeah, just, you know, there's like zero judgment on the side. So when we start throwing out, ask me anything to you guys, you can ask us anything anonymously. We're just here to give you our experience. But thank you for that. Yeah, I am just very curious and I think I love human connections so so

much and I think the more you get to know people and the ins and outs of why they are who they are and why they think the way they think you become more empathetic and I think this world needs more empathy. I agree. And we need to laugh more and we have a lot of really fucked up shit to tell you guys about too, that you're gonna roll. Hopefully this podcast will make you laugh, make you cringe, maybe even some of these stories make you cry, some of the love stories, then guess we're gonna have on, we'll really touch you. Touch your heart. Yeah. I won't touch you in all the ways. Or your vagina. Hopefully they don't, but unless you want to do, yeah, that works too. This is going to be a fucking blast and I'm really excited and it's made this whole getting

over my breakup so much easier because this is just like a quick little clip on me and where I'm out of my life for y'all. It's like I was in this past relationship for two and a half years, and to wrap it up in a little gift box with a bow, I really thought, like, this is it for me, I have to make this work, I need a husband and a baby, and it didn't work. And it was hard to see the rainbow, you know, or the particle at the end of the rainbow,

it was hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel that I was gonna be fucking okay even though I'm 39. And now I just feel like I've had a rough two years as some of you may know. And I'm really finally finding like what I'm passionate about again. So I hope you guys love this as much as we do. It's going to be fun. Do you want to tell them our fun story? So this is how we know each other. Our story, okay. Because we've only really been close for like a few months now. But I feel like I've known you my whole life. Yeah, that's also why that was unlocked in me is that because it's just,

it's been unreal to me how quickly I've been able to share these things that I only share with my brother. There's some stories that Kristen knows and I've told her in graphic detail that my brother is the only one that knows my My brother is my best friend. I was the best man I was weddinging a couple years ago. And he's the only one I go to and tell some of these things. And I honest, at this point, Chris probably knows more than he does. He knows everything. And I love him.

Yeah, so we feel like we've known each other forever. Anyway, let's get to the story. Yeah, so a few months back, about two weeks after I was maro-kenopos and booted out. I was a bridesmaid in my best friend's wedding, my friend Rachel O'Brien, who you guys may know, comedian, podcast extraordinaire, follow 7-Dully sinners. I levered a piece, but Rachel, digital California, she moved to like butt but fucking Egypt Colorado on this ranch,

like three hours south of Denver, literally in the middle of nowhere, and became like a ranch wife. And decided they have all these, all this land. So like, let me paint a picture, like they have like 35 acres, which is a lot of square feet. And they are building container homes.

She was like, we're getting married here. We're going to build a wedding venue for ourselves. And I was like, dude, I'm so fucking down. I'm so excited to be a part of this wedding and stand by your side and love your love and hear your boughs and I'm going to cry and hold your hand and all the good stuff. So I get broken up with right before this

and I'm like, cool, cool, cool. I'm fine. This will be a nice escape for me to just get out of town and sort of be removed from all things Los Angeles. So the first day and a half I'm there, of course, I'm glued to my fucking phone. And I'm like, what's the boyfriend doing? Or the ex boyfriend?

You're like, what are my friends doing back home? Like, I'm all in my head. I'm not quite over being angry and sad at this point yet. And then I find out that we were getting paired essentially to like walk down the aisle, you know, if like groomsman and the bridesmaids, and I'm always a bridesmaid, never a bride, 27 dresses, that's me. And they pair me up with Luke. And Luke is the only one, I think, maybe one other person that I'd even met before. Right, so let's back up to that where we actually met.

So two years prior, I was essentially fifth wheeling up in Denver, Greg, one of my best friends who married Rachel O'Brien. He invited me to join up there. I was living in Colorado. He was out there too. We went up to Denver, Kristen and Rachel did this live podcast,

went and stayed in this awesome hotel up there. Anyway, long story short, we met, she had a boyfriend, it was a good time, and that was that. Yeah, we're buds, that was that. Yeah, and I was like, oh cool, I met one of Greg's friends from like back home, like I'm getting to know Greg better, like this is cool. Right, now back to the wedding. So we get paired up.

We are, the Ed is the morning of the wedding to paint the whole picture for you How kind of disorganized this whole situation was we were building the wedding venue I mean literally every day the morning of the morning of and the days leading up to it like cactus and like dirt and puppies running around and it was fucking gorgeous Ended up being and just yeah incredibly perfection. They paris up, we do the rehearsal the morning of. I was drunk. Yeah, you were still drunk from the night before. Yeah, and you were like, do you go hiking? And I was like, no, I'm not going to fucking hiking, you psycho.

We have to help build this wedding. Hello, but I wasn't annoyed with it really. Is that when I told you that you had to be my handler or was it at the once we were dressed in looking cute? Do you even remember where you blacked out? Not when it blacked out, but I remember once we were dressed up and there you claimed me as your groomsman. Yeah, that was probably two hours later. We had five seconds to get ready.

At least the girls did, because we were working so hard while the boys weren't. Anyway, I'm there with Luke and I was like, oh, I mean, I'll be honest. I was like, oh, he's tall and handsome and he's all like, he's got a shit together. We weren't in ranch clothes and covered in dirt. I had makeup on. I looked like a normal human being. And I was like, all right, I'm feeling sassy. So I'm like, you're my groom's man. I'm your groom's man. I'm like, you're my groomsman. I'm your groomsman, I, essentially you are my handler.

Yeah, and I'm gonna bring the mail perspective in here because I got for it. So, yeah, how did you feel when I said that? Well, I was nothing short of excited because I had my personal idea of where that night was going. Greg and Rachel. Yeah, I'll fill you in.

So Greg and Rachel leading up to the wedding had filled fill you in. So Greg and Rachel, leading up to the wedding, had filled me in on what single girls were going to be there, right? These are some of my good friends and weddings are like the mecca for hookups. People aren't, you know, familiar with that. I don't know where you've been. For dudes though. And women, single women. I mean, emotions are high. Like everyone, you said you love love. And then love isn't there. It's just I mean Oh, yeah, I think yeah, I think about babies and marriage and like what my song's gonna be I like picture my whole wedding every wedding I go to right so anyway, I had to run down and this was a wedding going into it. I was like Definitely the best wedding I've ever been to as far as the ratio on attractive single girls to single guys undoubtedly,

undoubtedly, right? And so it was only maybe two days before the wedding, I found out Kristen single and I'd only met her once a couple years ago. Granted, I was a track doer, but she had a boyfriend and I was like, damn, okay, she's number one on the list now. Thank you. But so sweet. That's the truth. That's so kind. Nothing against any of the other bridesmaids at all. They were all very good at handling. I was hotter. Yeah. Chris and I was into it.

Anyway, she gives me this assignment. Yes. So I give him an assignment to be my groom's man. And he basically has to handle me for the rest of the night. And like, this year in charge of me, I'm not OK by myself. I've been through some shit the last few days. I don't, by the way, my phone is now taken away from me. My girlfriends have taken my phone and said,

like, you don't get it for the rest of the weekend, which I was actually fine with. Like, if my family had to get a hold of me, they know who to call. I need to be present, something I'm working on, then be there for this gorgeous magical moment and my hot groomsman. So the wedding is success.

The wedding went off great. It was a slight delay but we nailed it as far as the gold now. Our sun was just going down. We look super hot in our photos. Oh yeah. So good. And after that we had the pictures. The reception got a little disorganized but ultimately we cut to the chase.

How important when going into these details? No, let's cut to the chase. cut to the chase? So you have a part of when you go into these details? No, let's cut to the chase. Cut to the chase anyway. Because for me the cut to the chase didn't happen until I was like pretty fucked up. I had a nice little champagne buzz going on and you asked me if I wanted to go get the dogs. Yeah, so that we had all these dogs that we had put up obviously for pictures and food and all these reasons. and I asked if she wanted

You know run down let the dogs down of course she does she loves dogs I knew this is that why you asked me Because you love dogs or because you wanted to make out with me Well, yeah, and I was your groom's man, so I'm not gonna leave you hanging right Okay, so tell me wait here. This is a good. This is a good place to start Tell me why you really did it and tell me, wait, here, this is a good place to start. Tell me why you really did it and tell me why you thought you were like, why I was going to think you really did it.

Do you know what I mean? Okay, to be totally honest, I felt like we were on the same page already at that point. Because I was giving you like flirty eyes. Not just flirty eyes. You were dropping hints. So one other, yeah, for sure. Come on, listen, another. Yeah, for sure come on listen another Guys, I'm not really good at flirting at all. I'll just throw that out there

I don't think I'm good at flirting, but I'm good at getting laid. Okay, keep going. All right listen to this though She tells me another Bridesmaid had gotten a tick on her because we're kind of out in the wilderness, right? Oh, yeah She tells me my assignment is to make sure she doesn't have any ticks on her. That's true. Now if that's not laying it out there for me. I was being dead serious though. I was like, yes, you have to look down my address if I have any ticks on me. I don't even know what a fucking tick looks like.

You took that as me flirting with you when I was literally like, if I get bit or have something embedded into me, I'm going to actually kill you. Right. And how much of your body could I see if there was a tick on it? Oh my God. You know, perfect. Okay, so that's not what I meant, just so you know, I really meant the tick. Well, you accidentally dropped a real nice hint on where you were, where I figured you

were. Anyway, all this confidence. We go let the dogs out. There wasn't really any opportunity. I was planning on kissing her. It didn't, didn't work out with the first set of dogs. We'd bring them up. Everyone's happy. And I have my dogs in another pen. Ask her if she wants to go for walk. It's dark as hell out.

It wasn't that dark. Kristen's blind. So we go walking up there. She's like, take, hold my hand. I can't see a damn thing. Take her hand. We walk up there. We're in the dark. I know she can't see. we're stepping off of the road, and she kind of stumbles, so I catch her, and I immediately lean in and kiss her. He laid a good one on me. Yeah, so we made out for who knows how long. It was a really fun wedding. It was a really fun wedding.

And that progressed to us hooking up kind of right there. Behind a tent. Behind a tent, yeah, yeah. In our outfits, in our very nice black tie outfits, we had a blast. So that is how Luke and I became friends. That's where it started. Yeah, I remember kissing you like on the dance floor,

like all drunk and you were like, you're gonna kiss me in front of people I was like yeah, you'll know like roll adults here and that's kind of how I feel about sex and relationships and love like we're all adults here Like let's just call you know call spade a spade Like grabbing fun. No, we don't have to explain anything to anyone We talk about it later. Let's just like enjoy the. And the funniest thing though. We were very present. We were present, very present. It was amazing.

So one of the funniest things I remember though is following, if I ever want to find Kristen, all I do do is follow the trail of spilled champagne because she could not keep it in her glass. I don't know if she was even getting any in her mouth. Yeah, I don't think I'd drink. I think I stopped drinking less than halfway through the night and I was just carrying champagne and spilling it everywhere. She was carrying the bottle. I think I stopped drinking less than halfway through the night and I was just carrying champagne

and spilling it everywhere. She was carrying the bottle. I was also on mushrooms. You know what I mean? Yeah, you weren't the only one. Things have. Anyway, it was all a great time. Next day we get breakfast.

I kind of ordered. Yeah, the one night stand was not really one night stand because we had breakfast. We did have breakfast and I stayed in your hotel. Yeah. And yeah. We snuggled. Yeah.

We totally snuggled. And then yeah, you ordered my breakfast. So I was like, you like knew what I wanted. And I was like, oh God, the romance just like, it won't stop. Why was I even sad this weekend? It's a lot easier to order for someone you barely know when they're vegetarian.

Too shay, too shay. Yeah, so that was kind of it. And then we parted ways. And I didn't even realize I had his number, but he was like taking photos with his phone for me because remember, my phone got taken away. So I wouldn't think about ex-boyfriend. Yeah, you put your number in my phone

so I could send you some pictures that you wanted. Yeah. And then, yeah, from then on out, we just kind of started texting. I ended up in Denver a couple weeks later for a concert. And obviously Luke was there with the friends that got married. And literally, I feel like after Denver, like, from that point on, we just started really opening up

and talking on the phone a lot. And you really like talking on the phone. And I'm not a talking on the phone kind of girl normally. Really? Because you say how much you hate texting. But it's different when there's someone you want to talk on the phone with. This is interesting. Totally. There's like a handful of people that will like, cold call me and I'm like, oh, I need to answer this, right?

Because they're calling me. There's a reason they're calling me and not shooting me a text. And with you, I'm like, we're just going to talk for hours. Why are we bothering texting? Plus, you have like a really fun, sexy voice. If you have good phone voice. You keep saying that. It's true. Everyone hates the sound of their own voice. So, yeah. Yeah, I've got to go off your perspective and what, I guess your friends have said, and you've had a couple of friends agree with you. Yeah, you have like a phone sex voice. It's like pretty good. That's our little story.

We hooked up at a wedding and we've been BFFs ever since and there's a lot more, what do you want to say, go? Oh, hundreds of hours on the phone talking about these topics later. Here we are starting the podcast. How do we even do that? Like, do you even remember I don't? Like, what do you even remember? I don't. Like, why did we just start like being so vulnerable with each other?

I just think you were easy to talk to and I really loved to talk and you reciprocated. And I do recall saying like, I thought you were really quiet. You thought I was quiet and you're not the only one. I ease into situations, but once you open me up, you don't shut the fuck up. They're gonna super hot in all some way. I can talk, yeah.

Yeah, well that's why you're a podcast host, now welcome to my world. Happy to share my stories. Yeah, so not just stories, my perspective and setting things straight. And we will divulge more into details and whatnot, possibly a later date. But yeah, that's where Luke and I are.

And I'm really excited for you guys to all get to know him, the way that I know him. And again, I just think it's so fascinating having this super honest male perspective on the things that we all wonder about. And how do you feel about my female perspective? I think your female female perspective is so... J-ted.

Not J-ted. It's very emotional. So I think that's the greatest thing about the balance is that I feel like my times that I've been single and self-reflective, I have been able to balance that logic and emotion side. So there was a time where I was emotionally unavailable, self-proclaimed, and at the time, logic

dominated all. There was no feeling, there was no girl I met, there was nothing that would have pulled me from my goals or where I was going, what I was doing in life, because it didn't make sense. And going with logic, too, that means I was also considering the person I would have had been perfect on paper, and I would have pushed relationships aside and it was nothing on perfect on paper that came up and that's something we'll get into later. Yeah, I have a quick question for you about that. Do you know of any women like in your life that have shared that same feeling with you like

that they've been like the logical one rather than the emotional one? Not personally, I know they're out there. I don't either. I'm for sure they're out there. I don't either. For sure they're out there. And I would love to hear from women like that because I'm such an emotional person and such an empath and so feeling all my feelings. My dad's girlfriend. This is my son weird. But she is a career woman 100% all the way. Now they've been dating for many years and she is.

No kids never married in her 40s and has no intentions of changing that. Just fully, that's her choice, that's her choice. That's her choice. She feels. Very career oriented. She comes off as a very logical person. She's the sweetest person.

I think everything's better for me, my siblings, and everything when she's around. My dad's great in all his own ways, but I think everyone enjoys him more when he has her around. And I think that's one of the things that they have in comments. They both are super logical. Interesting.

Have you ever dated a girl who's super logical? So, that you can think of? By dated, you mean, went on dates or? Look, probably someone you've spent time with. Spent time with someone who's super logical. I mean, clearly the answer is no, because you're reaching so hard right now. We can see the way your brain works.

I've only had a couple of serious relationships, but as far as dates or someone I've been on multiple dates with, you know. Or if not, have you ever tried to date a girl? Like have you ever been like, oh my God, my last girlfriend was crazy. She has some emotional. I should try to date a more logical girl.

Mariner. Nope. Nope. Snoppin'. Interesting. My mindset. We should definitely talk about that, like, trying to date differently than you do. Targeting.

Targeting. Let's do that next time. Okay. Alright, amazing. Well, I'm so, again, you guys, I'm just so fucking excited. I have been so ready to do this for like a year, honestly, and I kind of had to just narrow down like what I was really into. And I knew that it pertained to my book, and I know that I love discussing just all of

my experiences and my wild stories and my feelings, you know, being in therapy and writing that book and being on Vanderpump rules and all of the shit. So I love that I just get to be super present now and Luke and I just get to answer all of your questions and talk about all the topics and all the stuff. And our time's, we're gonna make you laugh. There's a lot of funny segments we're bringing. Oh my God, we have so many fun games.

You're gonna roll. Okay, well, thanks for listening to our first app and we cannot wait to talk to you again and we love you. Thanks for being here, Luke, you're the best, you're the best thing. Thanks. Yeah, thanks.

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