Sex With Emily - Coming Together with Jeff Abraham

Episode Date: April 13, 2018

Today’s show is all about penises. Emily is joined by long time friend of the podcast, Jeff Abraham, who runs the company behind Promescent – the product that helps couples enhances intimacy. They discuss the difference between pre-mature ejaculation and erectile dysfunction, and even role play and provide helpful pointers for talking to your partner about his penis challenges. This show also include sexy tips for mutual masturbation, ways to break out of that sex routine, and how to close the orgasm gap – because the struggle is real. Thank you for supporting our sponsors who help keep the show FREE: We-Vibe, Womanizer, JO, and Adam & Eve Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Thanks for listening to Sex with Emily, today I'm here with Jeff Abraham, long-time friend of the show. He runs a company that makes progressive, the product that helps men last longer during sex and enhances intimacy. This show is a gift to your penis or the penises in your life. We talk about the difference between premature ejaculation and erectile dysfunction or PE and ED. We also do a helpful roleplay so you can talk to your partner about his penis challenges. We give tips for mutual masturbation and ways to break out of that sex routine. And how to close the orgasm gap because hey, the struggle is real.

All this and more, thanks for listening. Look into his eyes. They're the eyes of a man obsessed by sex. Eyes that mock our sacred institutions. Bit rumised they call them in a bygone day. Hey, Evelyn, you got a boyfriend? Because my man E here, he just got his heart broken. He thinks you're kind of cute. The girls got every standard. Oh my! The women know about shrinkage.

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It's hard to pick just one. You can check out my sex hack videos on youtube.com slash sex the Emily where you should obviously also subscribe and join me on social at Sex with Emily Facebook Instagram snapchat and Twitter because I know you're already on Instagram anywhere. Let's chat. Okay guys, I hope you enjoy the show with Jeff Abraham. We'll be answering your emails and I love you all. I'm excited to be here with Jeff, the CEO of Permanent, and we've been friends and connected for a long time, and I was thinking it's going to be five years. Over four years, but that's in five years.

Less than five, but over four, and I remember very specifically, I just moved to LA. Greg had to reach out to me who works with you. Yes. To talk to you about the product. I remember I just got to the hospital. I had pneumonia and I'd been sick and I was missing in for a month and my mom had a fly back with me. We were sitting in a hotel. I didn't have a place to live.

I was trying to figure out my life. We talked and I was like, oh my God. I got so passionate and so driven about sex with Emily and making you and work and then talking to you and you had that same passion about this product. I had known from the years of doing the show that so many men are suffering from like pre-berture ejaculation or just challenge around their penises.

Let's just say man of penis challenges and we just connected around that passion and we've been friends ever since. And I remember just thinking, reflecting on how far we both come since then, ups and downs and things with work. So I'm just so glad that you're back here in the office today to talk about everything that's been going on with you and your life and working in this industry and promessing, which is something that I'm very, very proud to speak about and

be to been there with you since the beginning of it. Pretty much the beginning. So do you start with the message? Yes, since we really put a big push on to go commercial. Yeah, so welcome back to the show. That's my previous third time. Everyone loves when you're on.

So of course, we have to have you back. I've been talking about promessing since, you know, for several years now, whenever people email in, they have questions, we talk about it, obviously, for years. But I want to hear from you, like, what people might not know the story about how you got involved with it, because I so connected to your mission when we first met so It's an interesting story and it's one that is very unorthodox

The founder of Promessor or absorption pharmaceuticals company which makes promising was a urologist by name a doctor Ronald Gilbert and Ron was my neighbor and my friend, and also my doctor. So it was a very complex relationship, but we were really good friends. And so in late 2010, November, 2010, I went in for my yearly PSA as men do. And during the visit, he said,

you know, I really appreciate, you know, our friendship and you've been around. And he goes, I know your history, because I grew up, you know, very lower middle class, you know, that kind of a thing, but a very loving, great family, but we weren't economically advantaged, so to speak. He goes, I know how you've really done well. He goes, I respect your business acumen.

He goes, I developed a product. I really think it should have taken off much greater than it has at this point. I'd like your business expertise. Could you evaluate this form? I go, sure. I have no idea at this point what he's about to bring up. And coincidentally, about two weeks prior

to that, I was watching 60 minutes and they had a special on counterfeit drugs, because that's become something that's a phenomenon now. And if you want to counterfeit something, you want two things to be prevalent. You want there to be a huge market for it, because obviously the demand, and you wanted to have a high price,

so you can come in there and make money. So even though it was on counterfeit drugs, not on ED drugs, and specifically, about 90% of it was about biagressels for major knockoffs, because that's what everybody was knocking off. What else are knockoffs? Yeah, and they said that the legitimate market for prescriptions of those three drugs at that point,

this is 2010, were're $6 million. And for every legitimate tablet made, there was 1.2 knockoffs. I went, oh my God, that means there's a $12 billion market. So when he tells me, okay, I've developed a drug to treat PE. I look at him and go, physical education. Because to me, when I grew up, I was like, PE meant physical education.

I go, well, it's run for PE. So you don't have to work out. It's like a fat lost pill. What is it? He goes, no more on it. Prima sure to, I go, oh, I didn't know they called it PE. He goes, yeah, they called it PE. So I said to him, hey, you know, I saw this 60-minute

special and wow, that is an enormous market. How big is the PE market compared to ED? So I'm anticipating him saying 10% or 15% the size. He looks at me, goes about 15%, 20% larger. I'm like, excuse me? I go, wait, larger. He goes, yeah, I go, you do realize, he goes, yeah, he goes a matter of fact, about 15% of ED is misdiagnosed. I'm asking you exactly. And we're talking about erectile dysfunction versus premature ejaculation. And the erectile dysfunction can be just like your erectile dysfunction, your erectile object, your penis dysfunction in some way.

So that's kind of umbrella. So it could have been PE, it could have been delayed ejaculation, it could have been other things. It could have been other things. It could have been other things. It could have been other things. It could have been other things. It could have been other things.

It could have been other things. It could have been other things. It could have been other things. It could have been other things. It could have been other things. It could have been other things. It could have been other things. It could have been other things. It could have been other things. If a man has chronic PE, meaning it's not something that comes and goes, it's not something that is occasional. If he has chronic PE, he would develop anxiety related ED, meaning his mind, in his experience tells him that an erection is a bad thing.

It leads to an unsatisfactory experience. So he eventually will have stage fright, or it'll be a more of a psychosis where he will be able to get an erection not because he has ED Because he ejaculates in 30 seconds. He knows it leads to a bad conclusion So I was like oh my god So being the inquisitive type I go hey just have a recreational component to it because I have friends that literally I'm not kidding you they take Viagra's also feature in the morning just in case hey just in case I have a you know it counter later I want to make sure I'm strapped. I don't leave the house without a gun.

You know what I mean? I'm like, okay. So he goes, yeah, it has a recreational component. I go, ah, could you give me a sample of that? And he goes, yeah. So at this point, I was dating this financial analyst that worked for Shierson Lehman. So from the parking lot, I couldn't wait to leave. So I was like, you know, the parking lot, I go, hey, Carolyn, can you come over this evening? I need you to help me evaluate an investment. Because I'm thinking, hey, this works. I'm going to invest in this company. That's why I do what you got the Sivi and I invite him. Maybe that's why.

Exactly. So she comes over and we have dinner and she goes, hey, let's take a look at that investment. So she's thinking, I'm going to come out with this performer, spreadsheet. Yeah, PowerPoint. We're going to look at this investment. So I go upstairs, I come down, I throw the bottle of the product and I go, here it is. And she goes, oh, you're such a perv. And I go, what?

She goes, that's not an, no, I go, I swear to God. Technically, I am a perv. I admit it. But technically, I am investing in the company. I such a perv. I go, what? She goes, that's not a, no, I go, I swear to God. Technically, I am a perv, I admit it, but technically, I am investing in the company. Yeah, it's exactly. I said, so we really need to take a look at this. So, and I showed her the address. She goes, oh my God, that is Ron's company, because she had met him, because we're dating.

I go, no, I'm serious, I am thinking of investing, but I gotta do my research. So, we use the promising. So, the next morning, I call him, and we were really good friends, right? And he's like, what'd you think? I said, before we go into what I think of it, you need to change the name. And he goes into this impassioned explanation.

Promescent means prolonged to mescence. To mescence means engorged by blood and that's a medical term for direction. And he's like, I go, wait, wait, he goes, well, what were you thinking? I go, how about bone like a born star? He's like, what? I go, I swear to God, she was tapping out. And he's like, what? I go, it was like 40 minutes and I go,

she's tapping out, she's enough. And I'm like, hey, I worked this hard I'm finishing, right? He's laughing and he goes, how much did you use? I go, I use like six sprays. He goes, well, that's if you have like severe PE. I go, dude, I read the direction. She didn't tell me.

He goes, if you don't have like PE, use one or two sprays. I go, thank for telling me. I go, so of course I had to go back and do some more research. Of course, of course. And so, yeah, or two sprays. I go, thank for telling me. I go, so of course I had to go back and do some more research. You know, and so. Of course, that's part of the job. Yeah, so I go in a week later, I hand him a check

for $100,000. I'm investing in your company, okay, I love this. And so I go, give me 10 bottles. He's like, what? He goes, what are you gonna do with 10 bottles? Of course, being the Joker that I am, I go, I'm going over the Women's Volleyball House. You know, you see us be this week, I need some,

he goes, what? I go, just kidding, I go. I wanna see if different people have the same reaction. So I wanted to make sure that I had a broad cross section. So people that were my age at that point, 53, couple there, my son who was 20 at UC Santa Barbara, him this friend. Oh, my son, now I love your help.

Oh, he's 29. Oh my God, where I cannot believe your son is 29. Can you believe that? You met him when he's, no, he's still single. Okay, he's so strong. Hey, I want grandchildren, can you help me come like do a call out, you know. Yeah, I totally, but he's so adorable, not even 20. Can you believe that? You met him when he's, no, he's still single. Okay, he's so chrancho. Hey, I want grandchildren. Can you help me come back to a call out? He's so adorable, it's smart.

Oh, he's intelligent. Love your son. He's everything I'm not intelligent, good-looking, athletic, you know? All those things I can't believe he's twist. Yeah, so people like, freaking out, you gave your son, I go, my son's 20 years old. I hope he's having good sex. Okay, do you really think that I think he's avert?

Get out of here, okay? So it was weird. Everyone I gave samples to within a week says, hey, what is that? Can I get more of it? I go, aha. That's a good sign. Good sign. Do you want to invest in? So I had just retired. This is the funny part. I raised my son as a single dad. I started my own company for scratch. I retired. I sold it. I wrote him a business plan because they go, can you help us? You know, and I go, yeah, so I got involved. And so then they go, hey, can you write us a second? Because the first one worked really well.

Come and start growing, can you write us a second plan? And I go, yeah, no problem. So then we'll start getting into it. So I started doing this on the side. Hey, it keeps me occupied. They asked me to come to a board meeting. I went and the CEO wasn't there. And I go, hey, are we gonna wait for him to come?

They go, well, no, we want you to take his place. This is a true story. I go, I don't know how to spell pharmaceuticals. I go, I've emailed some of my friends and tell them, hey, I've joined, I've done this new company. Every time I go P, H, A, R, M, is it UE or EU? I did not know how to spell pharmaceuticals. I go, which one comes first, E or U?

And they go, listen, you're passionate. You work hard in your smart, you can do this. I go, well, I've kind of been doing some research for the last 25 years on the side having sex, so I do have a little background, you know, and it was just intriguing. So I decided to do it. And so I took over the company and we started to grow.

And as you know, there's a little tragic side to the story because Ron Gilbert, who was a director of urology at Hogue Hospital, was murdered in a case of mistaken identity. My best friend, which was just tragic. I mean, it was just, you can't even fathom because it turns out it was mistaken identity. The guy had been, had a prostate surgery 23 years earlier by another guy and he didn't know who it was.

So he went to the VA to find out who it was because he was upset. Don't ask me why I took him 23 years to realize he was upset. He finds out, he gets the name wrong and murders the wrong guy. As a society we tend to make more out of people in death than they are in life, it's who we are.

Someone dies right away. He was, and sometimes you know him, you go, wait a second, he was a good guy. I'm sure it's a go-go over board, okay? You didn't have to do that. He was literally as pure human being have ever met. He was the best father, the best husband,

the best friend, the best doctor. He was beyond ethical. So I understand, yeah, this has been your drive to kind of like... I want him to have a legacy other than the doctor shot by the crazy guy because after he was murdered, it was weird. I was in my office one day and I got really emotional. I started to cry because part of this whole thing when I took it over was to make his company successfully wasn't there. Sometimes is not about dollars and cents.

No, it's about your passion, it's about your passion. It's about your passion. It's exactly. Well, that's okay. So when I opened up the show, I was saying that you and I connected on this level of both being, we both were working on it and they were very passionate about it. I'm trying to help people about our sex. I'm not sure how to make it a business at the time.

I wasn't sure how to. I knew people were listening. I knew people wanted my product, if will it was a podcast and then you have something you were so passionate about Ryan had just died and we just had a long so many long time. I remember we had two or three hour talk All the time and it wasn't about business It was about passion so that's how we've always connected and so I'm so glad that you're here and telling me that things are moving along With everything and very well and and for people who don't know what we're talking about, promising, how would you describe it?

It helps with, it's the only FDA treatment for premature ejaculation, but it's also more than that because so many people want to just last longer a better. Here's what I will tell people. If we would call ourselves a premature ejaculate treatment, it would be the worst thing we could do. It's a misnomer, okay? Because the actual definition, and I don't know how they come up with this in a medical community for premature ejaculation, if you never last more than 90 seconds ever, whether

you're by yourself, whether it's oral sex, whether it's anal sex, whether it's vaginal sex, let me ask you a question. Some of the last 94 seconds, that doesn't mean they don't have PE, forgot sex, okay? Right. We've both been over this so many times that there's something called the arousal gap, that the average healthy man,

we're talking about PE, we're talking about the average normal healthy man, last five minutes and 42 seconds during intercourse. The average female takes 19 minutes to achieve climate. Exactly. Okay, so explain to me how a guy that lasts two and a half minutes technically doesn't need something. That's why guys stop, starts, which positions think about baseball's

course, think about their grandmother naked. I mean, all these crazy things. Whatever you do, right to last longer. How many guys go, oh my God, I hope she doesn't get on top. Oh my God, I hope she doesn't go reverse. Oh my God. I want to put it, I don't want to. Exactly. I don't want it. What exactly? I don't want it. You know, so many people that use our product, and I'm passionate, as you know, so two hours a week,

we have something on our website called O-Lark, where it's an interactive chat function, and it's me operating it, and people go, why would you be operating? I go, I need to understand people that use our product. How did you find this? Yeah, what do you, I love you've always been so good with the data. This is what I love by even business.

I know you're like, they found it from here. They found it from there. And how are you using it every time? It is this. So many guys tell me, you know, I didn't think I even needed it. But I was like, oh, let me try it. It's out there. And I say to guys, have you ever been in position

where you're like, oh God, oh please, oh, oh, oh, and I call it the walking on egg shells, because they'll go, well, I last long enough to satisfy my partner, but the last two minutes, I'm like, oh, you know, please, I don't enjoy this, not. Instead of enjoying yourself, you're having this anxiety attack, and then as soon as she finally finishes like,

oh God, I can let go, wouldn't you rather be focusing on enjoying yourself and letting go when having passion, rather than be like, mmm, you know mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, last long women are just, we just, I hear from them every day, including myself, we get frustrated with sex, there is this gap. Absolutely. Men don't last as long, or our partners just don't give us the foreplay that we desire. I saw, and I know you do some work from Cosmo's time to time. Yeah, yeah. I saw this article on Cosmo. This was a long time ago, I think seven or eight years ago, and they did this survey and they asked, I think it was a thousand women. What is the one thing that you could do to increase the level of satisfaction in your intimacy?

I think 68% said longer duration of intercourse. They asked a thousand men, what's the one thing that would enhance your intimacy? I think 80% said bigger penis. I'm like, excuse me. It's such a misguided. Please, it just blows my mind. I think 80% said bigger penis. I'm like, excuse me. It's such a misguided. Okay, please, okay. It just blows my mind.

You know what that indicates? There's no communication. Okay, because if men and women talked, and a guy would go, listen, okay, what would give you better intimacy? And sometimes people say to me, wow, you're so considerate, you know, all you're such a considerate lover.

I'm like, I'm actually kind of selfish, okay. But I realize the happier you are, the happier I am, okay? Right, wherever it is, if men can get that message, sooner as the better. I understand. If you're selfish and you don't focus on the woman, she's like, oh God, this guy, you know what I mean? If you take your time and you make sure

that you're willing to satisfy, do you know what she's gonna do? I gotta make sure he's happy because I love the way he makes the sure out of happy. Right, because it's something that so many men do not understand. It's just so fulfilling prophecy. And I always say this to people, and this is the funniest thing.

Before I took this job, people would say, what is the most fragile object on earth? And I'd just say, oh, one of those Fabergettes, you know, they cost what? $20,000. I go, no, it's a male ego. That is the most fragile thing on earth. Because everyone will tell you stories,

and until I took this company, I didn't realize how bad it was, because I was just very open. You know, it's like hey, life is life. So it happened like about a hundred times in the first two years. So we had this, you know, saying if this happened, we had a dollar every time this happened, we'd have a hundred dollars. Now it's a thousand. Okay, we're up to a thousand. Literally is, recently, as a super bowl party I went to and it was really nice party in my neighborhood and stuff. So we're sitting there. And one of my neighbors goes, hey, you're the guy 82 sun glow.

I go, yeah, he goes, oh my god, your house is nice. I go, yeah, I just built it, you know, whatever he goes. What do you do for a living? I go to see a small pharmaceutical company. He goes, what's the name? I go absorption pharmaceuticals. He goes, I never heard of it. I go, I told you it's small.

He goes, what product? I go, it's called ProMessit. He goes, what does it do? If you're gonna ask me, I'm gonna tell you exactly what it does. We're here at a party. I'm here for moms right there. Well, he's standing there with his wife. And he goes, you know, what does it do? If you're gonna ask me, I'm gonna tell you exactly what it does. We're here at a party, I'm here for a arms right there. Well, he's standing there with his wife and he goes, you know, what does it do? I go, it's an FDA compliant treatment for premature ejaculation. Okay. Talk about dropping a turd to punchball. Okay.

There's like 15 seconds of absolute silence. Do you know how long that is? He looks at his wife, his wife looks at him. They both look at me. I look at them, right? Now, picture, you can't see this on the podcast, but he's puffs his chest out and he's like, it's the last thing we need in this relationship. I'm like, oh, excuse me, Ron Jeremy, okay, you know, so whatever. So we have some small talk, halftime comes,

and they had this buffet and they had all of this stuff, he goes get some food. The wife leans over and she goes, we could use a little bit, you have a sample of that. See, this is what happens to you. I swear to you, it's insane. I know, when you sponsored my swear to you, it's insane. When you sponsored my 10 year anniversary show

at the improv. It was the improv. Yeah, at the improv. And you dropped the bottles of impressive, present table. I was like, you guys grab it, grab it. And it was so funny because people would leave. And then you'd see them come back,

like, like, Buck and Quarantine, and they would grow all the men sort of grabbing you. No one grabs it when everybody's looking. And then later, it was like, I'm gonna make this slide. And then there's this. Strangely all the promise started grabbing it. No one grabs it when everybody's looking. And then later it was like, I'm gonna make this slide. Strangely all the promessant is in the bags. I gotta tell you, they laugh at. And this is hilarious, okay?

So we go to some of these shows, like SMS and A, which is Sexual Medicine Society in North America, you know, or the AUA American Geological Association. So the doctors come by, oh, I've heard of this. Oh yeah, give me some of the therapists. Oh, how about some sample? Well, just send a case to my office, you know, whatever. So about 5.30 to 6 o'clock, it shows always ended six at night. The doctor come by and go, oh, can you give me a single sample of that? Yeah, I have a patient that

I want to personally deliver to suit. And as soon as they leave the booth, I always turn around on ourselves, people, I go one person clinical trial taking place this evening. You know what I mean? Because you know, that's exact. The guy's like, you know,people, I go one person, clinical trial, taking place this evening. You know what I mean? Because you know that's exact. The guy's like, hey, I'm out of town, I'm gonna go, whatever. And literally, I swear to God, they combine grab one bottle because they wanna go use it and find out. I literally have this theory that 75% of your neurologists

went into your neurology because they wanted to learn how to have better sex. I swear. Well, I think that makes sense. I think that we teach what we need to learn. Yes, exactly. Every year, I'll say everyone because one of my friends is going to be listening to this wife and go, hey, you could do it.

Look at their piss. We're trying to figure out our own things. I was having bad sex. I started the show because I wanted an amazing sex. You know? Exactly. I remember watching your show, Miss Adventures. Miss advised.

Yes. Miss advised. Yeah. The funny thing was, I told people this before I ever met you. I go, you know, I got so used to Dr. Ruth, she'd say penis. Oh, you know what I mean? It was like, not that there's anything wrong because she's, you know, for her age, she's fine.

But when you're a guy, you don't want like your grandmother to saying the word penis. That's great. Right, right. Yeah, it's like, I can have Emily say. Yeah. And then when I told people, oh, we're going to have this relationship with Emily, you know, and I go, she's like a woman, she says, penis, you don't go, oh, yeah, you know what I mean? It's like, because I think guys relate more, and I think that's why you probably have

a pretty significant meal. Yeah, I have a lot of them. Yeah, yeah. Because guys go. Yeah. Yeah, because guys actually go, I could imagine her being intimate and being cool. Yeah. If Dr. Ruth goes, this is what women want, I would go, how would you know?

You know what I mean? No, I get it. It's a different. If I was like an 80 year old dude, I go, okay, yeah, this is what women want, I would go, how would you know? You don't mean like, oh, no, I get it. If I was like an 80 year old dude, I go, okay, yeah, we might, you know, but you want someone you can relate to. Yeah. And so I want a hip-young vibe to this because for the longest time, it was like, oh, you have to do it missionary style. Oh, if you're two minutes, you're fine because the AUA guideline says 90, Secretary Liss, I want someone real that says, hey, you can last four minutes, you're fine, because the AUA guideline says 90, Secretary of the House, I want someone real that says,

hey, you can last four minutes, but if your partner takes 18, I don't care what the book says. If this gives you better intimacy, then let's experiment with it. Right, exactly. Well, I want to go back to a few things. It's funny that you said that women said

in the Cosmole article, whatever, eight years ago, that I want my partner to last longer, and that men were saying, I want a bigger penis, because that is just, first of all, I've said this on the show a lot and I would have no problem saying it every week. Men are way more concerned with their penis size than women.

Absolutely. We are not concerned. We don't wish it was bigger. I've heard more from men and women who are challenged with having a large penis. All that stuff. It just shows how different men and women are that women just want more pleasure

or they want more for play. They want you to last a little longer. Yeah. And this just shows that different men and women are, that women just want more pleasure, or they want more for play, they want you less a little longer. And this just shows that men are thinking about, it's their ego, their penis is so tied into their ego, but they're thinking about the wrong thing. I hope that also listening to this conversation, we'll get them to think about your penis is fine, guys, I promise you your penis is fine. However, if you get your penis to work a little bit more effectively for yourself, so you feel good that you're pleasing your partner

That's great. Like let's put the energy towards that because you know also I think we're talking about like P But also like some people people might not realize are the differences between having ED or delayed Acculation. I mean there's a lot of different things that can happen with men and a lot of it can be Psychological and then we get up tripped up on it because oh my god. It came so fast. It's gonna keep happening There's a lot of different things that can happen with men. A lot of it can be psychological. And then we get up tripped up on it because, oh my god, it came so fast it's gonna keep happening. So, we kind of explain the difference between ED.

Did we do that already? Where ED is just, if you get hard and then you can't stay hard, then you're like, hard again. And it's more of like, there's a dysfunction. Or could be a delayed activation. If you cannot maintain a direction significantly to have satisfactory intercourse, or I've been hanging around a lot of your wrong.

I know you have. But the other thing that I was going to say is that, do you find, because I know that you're on the website reading everything, that there are some people who say, I needed a promise to realize that it wasn't my head and that I can, I continue to use it, or I don't need it every time anymore, but I can, I just like to have it as like my safety because it helped me realize that I can perform in different ways, but also I just know that I can last longer when I want to or just helps them build up to it. And they absolutely mean like they almost like a safety.

If I take ambient when I travel, I, I never have sleep problems, but I have a fear that what if I can't, like what if I can't sleep or what if I can't, and so always. What if you have a busy day tomorrow and it's midnight and you go, I have to get up at 6 and I have 12 hours of solid work and I'm gonna be substandard if I don't sleep. You go, I wanna have that in the day. Like I'm not a pill, right? So like three times a year maybe I'll take a half.

You're just like me, absolutely. Yeah, I'll just need to have it weirdly because when I try, but I feel like this is the same thing because whatever we can do to help men realize it, like you can have it with you, you can try it, use it when you need it or just use it. How to time like it will give you that confidence. You were going to last longer and still have amazing sex. Absolutely.

Jane Wells, I was on her KFI appearance. This was about two years ago. So she says to me, have you ever used your product? Of course, you asked me a question. I'm answering it. I go, what a wine maker not drink his own wine. I go, what a cabinet maker. Have someone else's case. She starts laughing. She goes, oh my, I'm answering it. I go, what a wine maker not drink his own wine? I go, what a cabinet maker have someone else's case. She starts laughing.

She goes, oh my God, I knew you were, I go, listen. I go, I don't use it every time, I'm in a minute, but there are times that yeah, if you're in a brand new relationship and you're with a really arousing person you haven't been with, of course, the stimulation is going to be much greater than normal, because familiarity sometimes gets a little bit mundane. If you haven't been inhibited quite a while,

you're going to have a quicker trigger so to speak. That kind of a thing. And there were nights where you go, I don't wanna have a 30 minute session. We both have to get up early. That kind of a thing. There are times that you go, it's just different.

It's just different. And the one thing that I will tell you though, is people who go, if there's a man who goes, I've never in my life ever had a need for that, they're covering something up. Because it's just something that, it doesn't mean there are people who have chronic pee, there are people who have sporadic pee.

Let's talk about the different kinds, or like who would impact, because I think that a lot of people think it's younger men that have had problems. Well, here's the crazy part. The actual truth to this is, almost all men, the first couple times they have sex, will have PE.

You don't know what the feeling is. You don't know how to control it. It's totally foreign. The excitement is like, I remember the first time I was 15 years old that I was intimate. I swear to you, I think it lasted eight seconds, okay? I was like, I don't know what that was,

but that felt good, okay? I was like, did I? That was good, yeah. And so, you have no idea, even with the feeling of an orgasm is, it's just, so then you get to a point where you're okay, now you settle in, you go, I have a little lot more control. But a lot of the physiological issues,

like prostititis and low testosterone and hypogonatism and these things, these are things to come on later in life, okay? So a lot of younger men have it initially because of it's something they don't do a lot, or it's new. They have to have to sit and they're set right. So there is a syndrome where a lot of young men will have it.

There's another syndrome that is you age, a lot of the physiological reasons come with age, but there's also a significant segment of the population that have hypersensitivity, okay? Meaning that the P-N-O nerves under the friend you look at the bottom of the head of the population that have hypersensitivity. Okay, meaning that the P-NOW nerves under the friendly line, which is the bottom of the head of the penis, they are the most sensitive part, your best friend. That's exactly, just like certain people run faster

than others, certain people jump higher than others, certain people last longer than others. Is we both know SSRI's, which are selective serotonin re-updating inhibitors, those who aren't in a medical profession, they're the depression drugs. Yeah, Paxil Proz in a medical profession, they're the depression drugs, yeah. Paxill Prozac Zoloft, they actually delay the ejaculatory response.

The only problem is they have some significant side effects and dry mouth nausea, vomiting, yeah. So up until we talk about, that's what they would give to patients, that's what they would give to people, selective serotonin reupdating inhibitors. But the side effects are pretty significant. But the thing is, there's a wider range of things out there. And we like

to educate because we believe if you do your homework and you look at all the options out there, a large majority of people are going to go, I don't want to take depression drugs if I'm not depressed. I don't want to have drive out. So not a fan of people going at any distance unless you are truly depressed. Well, here's the crazy part. So being the CEO and investing quite a bit of my money, I invested millions of my own money eventually when we started to grow in the company, how can I effectively market this product and know who needs it unless I know what else is out there?

So I tried every other topical, so I said to Ron, he was still alive at the time, I said, Ron, I know it's a low dose specifically for PE, but I want you to put me on whatever the low dose is, so I see how that works, because how can I speak intelligently about how this works versus that if I have no idea? So he puts me on a low dose, uh, so lot thing. I think it's Sarah, Sarah talks about whatever the real name is, right? 20 milligrams a day. Yes, that's exactly what it is. You're more medical now. So he puts me on this

low dose, 20 milligrams a day by the 10th day I call him. I go, can I just get off of this law once or you got a taper down? He goes, it's got a half life. You have to go, you know, one every other day for three days and one every third day, he goes, why? I go, let me take something right now. Someone took my libido, put in a garment bag, locked it in a trunk. Okay. I go literally, El McPherson could walk in here.

She was real hot back then. I think she still hot. She's still hot. No, that's okay. But this was like 10 years ago, right? I go, she could walk in here right now was real hot back then. I think she still hot, but she was like super hot. But this was like 10 years ago, okay? I go, she could walk in here right now, strip down, lie on the kitchen table, I go, I'd rather have a ham sandwich. I go, it's not like I have low libido, I have no libido. I go, not only that, it feels like someone put a blow dryer

in my mouth, okay? I don't know what this dry mouth is. No, dry mouth, dry everything out. Oh my God, my eyes were dry. I was like, I felt like a reptile, you know, and I go, get me off of this. And it was crazy. I go, that to me is like putting out a candle

with a fire hose, treating PE with, I get it. That's why I was so right. It's so, yeah. And this is non-systemic. People can talk about that too. They still do. I know.

So there's a lot of other things that we talk about. Like it's not like you have to like, you know, try out, promise them, but also doing keglexer sizes. Absolutely. See, which is great to have a jocletory control, seeing you're doing Kegel exercises, dealing with anxiety, the stop start method. And all that stuff matters

because it's important to have healthy prostate, healthy, it helps with everything with men's stronger orgasms, but what I also like is just, yeah, there's just ways to move past it and that if you wanted to use or have a bottle of promise and you try it out and it can help you every now and then that's great. But we're saying that there's other things.

There's other things in which I think that's a lot of time. There's a lot of time. There's a lot of time. But this is great that this exists on the planet, which is what I love. It has to be an option, okay. And sometimes if someone has severe PE, I mean, there are people who have something called portal PE, meaning they ejaculate during four play. That's a real central.

I just thought it was because I was really not. Somebody in the room, I'm not gonna mention names, it's raising hands, oh, I've been experienced with somebody like that. So it does exist. So they use combination therapies. A combination therapy is a SSRI along with a topic like promessant because it's so severe that they really

see that. And those are the sense of peduses. The penals of city. The penals of city. Yeah, that have penals sensitivity or a lot of it is low serotonin. One of the reasons why serotonin works is people have lower levels of serotonin.

Also, men who are uncircumcised have higher levels of PE. So I ask a couple very noted urologist, okay, why would that work? He goes, think about it. If you're circumcised, head of your penis rubs on your underwear, you know, this, if you have an uncircumcised penis that has the foreskin over the top, it's very sensitive because it never sees the light a day except when you're having intercourse with it next. It makes it so much sense., it makes so much sense.

It makes it so much sense. I go, wow, that's really interesting. You know. You learned a lot about the penis about these last years. Look at this. A couple of years ago, I went to this, your urology conference,

and it was a special thing on sexual medicine. So they asked me to give a little talk because obviously running the company, I have a little thing. So the guy introduced me as rather noted in the area, and he goes, is it Jeff Abraham? He's the CEO of absorption pharmaceuticals. He goes, I personally believe this guy is probably the preeminent expert on premature ejaculation,

you know, maybe in North America. I go up in front of the room and I go, you know, I really don't want that on my epitaph if I die one day. You know what I mean? Without further explanation, you know what I mean? Here's the king of pee. I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, I need to get a little further into this. It was through research, you know what I mean?

It was like, but I just found that kind of funny because even doctors, urologists, okay, they work on ED, prostate, and condoms, they do this a certain amount of day. I do this all day every day. I talk to therapists, I talk to urologists, I talk to people who have it both severe PE recreationally. And if you're passionate about something

and you find out that it exists to an extent that you never realized. And you know, a lot of podcasts, I do a lot of, you know, terrestrial radio shows that I do in serious radio shows, they take calls. Do you know that when I, they open up the phone lines, 40% of the people call in our women. They all have the exact same question.

I know if it's a woman, here's the question. You know, we could use that in a relationship, but how do I bring it up? I'm upsetting you. But let's talk about bringing it up in a relationship. Here's exactly how you do. And all the ones who buy the condoms, they buy the lube, they buy the permacent.

Let's talk about it. Here's what I say. They call up and they go, okay, we'll play here. Let's go play. There's a call online too, Emily. What can I do for you, they have Emily? Yeah, I heard you were saying, I mean, about my husband, he's not always, it's not that he always really, um, ejaculates if you will very quickly, but sometimes he does. And he's

a sweet man. I mean, he tries very hard and he tries to do the kegels or the caggels. How do you say he tries? He tries to do it. But I just, and I know he's very sensitive. And sometimes he does, you know, he gets to the party before I do if you know what I'm saying. And then sometimes I just wonder like, I know I'm hearing that this product that you have could actually work, but he's so sensitive, and I'm just,

and I got my Michigan accent out. He's so sensitive, and I'm not sure. It is very good. It also doubles the West Grompton accent too, but it is a good accent. Yeah, you say thing, but that's, and I'm just not sure how I would bring it It also doubles the West Conson accent too, but it is. Yeah, it's the same thing. And I'm just not sure how I would bring it up to him because his penis, I love his penis and I love our marriage.

And I'm not sure how I would bring it up and say to him, look honey, it's fine what you do in the bed. And if you, you know, sometimes come a little quickly, but I have this thing for you without him feeling even worse than the Ari des. Because you know men and their egos. I certainly do, Emily. I have an ego myself. And I filled these calls all the time.

Let me tell you how you should address it. You don't want to say, and you're already onto this, oh, you have an issue. You don't want to personalize and say, you're deficient. What you want to say is, honey, just like you said, I love your penis, I love our lovemaking, and you say, you know, it's really great. But, you know, let's go out on the edge a little bit. I read 50 Shades of Grey, and I'm gonna go out and buy a feather duster, and I'm gonna buy some handcuffs, and I'm gonna buy, you know, a whip,

and then include the promise and in. So it's not personalized. We're, oh my God, this is an issue. A goody bag. Roll it into a goody bag and a fantasy night, okay? And then he may, oh, let me try this, because let me tell you Emily, that in my experience, in a 60 may, oh, let me try this because let me tell you Emily that in my experience in them 60 years old now, okay, I can't remember time I ever went over to visit another couple

Whether it's date night or by myself and you go over and they're watching television I've never ever gone over and the woman has the remote and the guy's just sitting there perhaps the guy has the remote He's in control. He's like deciding what's on television Whenever you're gone to double date or ever you see a couple driving down the street, how many times is the woman driving the guys in the passenger's side? One percent, and I can guarantee the one percent the guy said, do you why?

He doesn't have a driver's license. That's why I see on the side. Men love control, okay? That's as a man, you're taught, you're in control. Well, that's why I don't really want to talk to him because I know that he's just going to feel bad when I just take care of him out to get more fat. that he's just going to feel bad when I take them out You let him you let him make the choice you put it in the goodie bag

Because once he tries it once and he realizes he has control You're gonna have to try to keep him away from it. You're not gonna have to give it to him You're gonna have to take it away from him because he's gonna go. I love control But how does it work exactly? Can you tell me what it means like if he just takes it and puts on his penis? And then he just lasts longer like I don't understand is it bad for him? What does it do?? Can you tell me what it means if he just takes it and puts it on his penis and then he just lasts longer? I don't understand. Is it bad for him? What does it do?

Here's the good part. There are literally no side effects. It is lighted cane, which has been around for 45 years. We have sold 1.7 million bottles. The only calls we've had to our contraindications line, and that's the call, the 800 number you call if you have problems. I wouldn't say we'd never had a call because that would be inaccurate,

but the calls we have, hey, can I use this with a condom? Can I use it if I'm pregnant? Can I use this? We've never had someone call go on my penis turn green. It's all, you know, this product is safe, insanely safe. That's why 2,200 urologists in North America

have this product in the protocol. So if you go in to see them, under P, it says, pro-messant by name. This is what you use. It is extremely safe. And the mechanism this is why it's effective because there were other products that were light acane, benzocaine based before and they actually allowed the man to last longer but the problem was all they do is sit on the top of the skin and they numb you. We used to have this joke that drop a center block on your penis. You

can't feel it. Okay, that's why you're lasting so long ago. Hey, I'm having really long lasting sex, but I feel like I'm taking a robin. So I'm sweating, I can't feel anything here. And it transfers to the female. And obviously you're inhibiting both people's pleasure if you're both numb. Because the objective is to have feeling

and eventually reach the problem. Because I don't want to last longer because I already think that I already know and I don't want anything to impact my sex life. No, not at all. You want him to last longer because I already think that I already know and I don't want anything to impact my sex life. No, not at all. You want him to last longer. So, Dr. Ron Gilbert, who is the founder and who is a urologist who invented this product, looked at all the options out there because when people came to see him for prostate issues,

he had a ton of options. People came to see him for incontinence, he had a ton of options. People had prostate issues, he had a ton of options. People came to see him for PE, said, well, you can take SSRIs and have no libido and a dry mouth and everything else, or you can just go home and have PE. So he said, I need to help develop something. My patients are suffering.

He found that the best way that had no side effects were the cane family of products, benzocaine, ladycane, but he had to figure out a way so they would not, you know, numb the man totally up and absorb to the female. He got together with Dr. Tony Capamacho, who was a research PhD chemist at the University of Georgia, and they developed this eutectic formula that changed the crystalline structure of light-acane.

It's normally a crystal, a solid. They changed it in this formulation to an oil-aquia solution, so it penetrates the outer surface of the skin. So it gets into the sensory nerves underneath. So the man maintains a higher degree of surface sensitivity and it doesn't transfer into the female partner. Thanks for supporting our sponsors. Help keep the show free because they're awesome

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I will call you. You can also submit a question from the Sex with Emily website via the Ask Emily tab. And as always, including information that helps me help you, your gender, your age, where you live and how you listen to the show. This is from Nick, 27 in Santa Cruz. Don't worry, not your son. When you said Nick, I know I know.

I know, I know. I know. Hey, my dad's too well today. Exactly. He's been embarrassing me on podcast. How do I deal with that? Just give Nick my direct number. OK.

OK. Hey, Emily, my girlfriend and I have been together for nearly five years since she and I were 16, 17, respectively. Now, they were older. There's some tension regarding sex. She wasn't my first sexual experience, and this information wasn't delivered to her in the best way.

So a trust problem started from there. She found porn on my computer and felt very strong in it she wasn't enough. And I liked looking at other women. There's a porn issue. She saw the porn. Now she has a mommy watching porn or even masturbating. I still masturbate and watch porn without her knowing. I feel bad about it. I know masturbating is healthy and it doesn't mean that I'm not thinking about her. I hate these secrets. I want to be honest with her. So far my approach is what she doesn't know won't hurt her.

It's worked and things are getting better. It eats me up inside. I want to change it. How could I be honest with her and help her understand that when I watch porn or masturbate it's not because I don't care deeply for her. So I'm just, you know, you do a lot of talking with men and their penis is I talk about this a lot in the show because I understand that masturbation is so confusing, especially with young women. I've said I, when I was 25 dating a guy for like two years my boyfriend I found he was watching porn and I felt like I wasn't enough for him that he wanted me to blonde hair long legs big boobs It was it's confusing for women Why a man would need to it feels like cheating when you don't understand that actual masturbation is part of a healthy sex life And so I understand that you're struggling here Nick.

We've talked about this a lot in the show, and we have some great blogs about it on the website, but I also understand that you're feeling duplicated because he's hiding it from her. And he said, I won't do it, and now he's doing it. And I don't know how else to, because I talk about it a lot in the show that it's important for her to masturbate as well,

and that men will masturbate before they go on to a relationship, during a relationship after. So have you ever come across this, or what would you say to men who are feeling guilty about their masturbation habit and when women don't quite get it? How would you communicate this? I would communicate it in this fashion.

And I don't believe in ever telling your partner, no, I won't do something and doing it, hiding. You need to do, yes, you do one of two things, okay? You either say to her, I want you to understand, this doesn't mean that you're lacking. As a matter of fact, I believe that maybe you should be masturbating as well and why don't we mutually masturbate?

You should masturbate. Why don't we have mutual so that it takes to shame away from it. We can both do it. It may draw us closer. And if she's unwilling to do that, you might not be suited. You might not be compatible. Okay.

To me, when you start living a duplicitous life, you go, well, I can't expose that, especially when it comes to intimacy with your partner for God's sake, you either have to bridge that gap or move on. Right. So is he going to live the rest of his life masturbating and secreting the closet? Exactly. the intimacy with your partner for God's sakes, you either have to bridge that gap or move on. So is he going to live the rest of his life masturbating and secreting the closet? I'm going to make a fake business trip so I can go jerk off somewhere. No, you're so right. You're so right.

Sorry, Hannah. Couldn't pick out a tie this morning. Yeah, exactly. What we doing in the closet there for an hour and a half, you know? You've been a great point and I love that you're so blunt about this and so direct, which I can always count on you for, is that Nick, I think you're right. Like he's going to, I get that he's been together like five years from 16 to 22.

Let's think of how much we change over these years. And that you wanna please her, you lover, but the truth is yeah, I mean, you can tell her that it's healthy, it's natural, it's normal, she should be masturbating. Well, you can't change her mind, you have to just be honest and say, I need to do this, it's important for me,

I'd love to do it together. Everything that Jeff is saying and that you're right to say that Nick, if this is something that she really can't handle and she's forbidding you from masturbating and she hasn't gotten her head around this yet, because I don't think I even got it when I was younger. It might be time to find yourself in another relationship, but because you're not going to change anybody unless they want to change, but you can give her all the data.

It sounds like you've given her the information of how important it is. It's called. It includes her. It includes her. It includes your masturbation. Yeah, we can masturbate together. Okay. And I'd love to watch you.

I don't know about most guys, but I'm assuming because I might have occasionally seen a porn over two or seven thousand or eight thousand or four hundred thousand or five hundred thousand, you know. But if you ever watch porn directed at men There are always women masturbating always you know why because guys love watching women please herself love it I know why do you think you love it because two things number one It shows me how she likes to be touched and And let me tell you something, every clitoris and every female is even though they look somewhat similar,

they are totally different, okay? Something that pleases one woman and goes, oh my God, I love that. Some are like, oh my God, I can't. It is insane how the exact same genitalia, some people I'd like it rough. I love, some people like, oh wait, I love this tender, you know what I mean, you're like, wait a second.

How can something that looks so similar in so many people have so many different responses? So number one, I love the idea that I'm learning. When I watch her touch herself, that is exactly how she wants to be touched because she's doing it with total control. Because how many times, you know, well, you're not with the times, you know, you're,

well, you're not with the woman, for me, you're with the woman. No, exactly, exactly. But not, yeah. Hold on a second, we may have to go my next podcast. Okay, we'll do it. We'll do it. Okay, it was the woman, yeah, okay.

But it's one of those things that, you know, it's always like, oh, you're the best, you're good, and you're like, oh, really? Okay, if you watch a woman touch herself, you know that's exactly what she wants. She's doing two finger taps. She has total control. She's going to take her tap. She's going to circle.

How many fingers there? She's going up, down, how hard. That's exactly what I'm focusing on. What exactly? I always love how much pressure. How does she like it? You know, like you say, circle that's happy. She's not even touching the clitoris that she's going around.

I was going to say, I always love the ones that in the area, but I don't want to direct content. Exactly. So to me, it's a direct route. It's one of a shortcut. It's a shortcut. Two months of stumbling. It's like having the answers instead of having to take the class and then take the test six months later, you go,

hey, I got a crib sheet. I'm looking right now. I got the answers already. I don't have to go through the. Exactly, and as a woman, I can say that I love it because I think even though penises are less varied, I can pretty much figure out how to please a penis I've I've also been around but my hands have been right now

I've I've studied sex a lot and had sex but just the new wances with men as well like some when they're they're giving themselves Hand they go over the game self a hand job when they're masturbating. Yeah, they go over the top. Yes, and they go back down Some just stayed the base some just on their friend. Yeah, and the second I see like oh He's the one that goes over the top and then that I know I do that thing that he did. Exactly. You're going, he gave me the keys to the castle. He got there. I was like, looking. It's a shortcut and a top. So it's the two things. It's education and it's super hot. Number one, education number two, is

there anything better? Because let's face it, if you're a middle of making love, you're all focused on what you're doing, and you can't really sit back and watch a woman's expression and what, you know, focused on what you're doing, and you can't really sit back and watch a woman's expression and what, you know, I love the idea that I'm watching her pleasure herself, and I'm watching how the build up comes, because you know, when you're in middle of it, you're busy, you got your stuff you're doing over there.

You know what I mean? I love the idea that I don't have anything, I don't have a task other than studying, you know what I mean? And watching, and there's nothing if you're a man that's more sensuous than watching a woman. I know it's hot. Have an orgasm where you're not like, oh, I'm kind of looking up off the side or never aware of where I'm at. You know what I mean?

You're just totally focused on that. I love that. I know. It is hot. Good advice. Yeah. So Nick, that's what we're telling you. We've got to bring you into your brain.

Communicate, Nick. Communicate it. Okay. We'll do one more. I love these. I know. You're always so fun, let's think. I never think the guys like 22 and women, 22 have these issues.

I go probably like people 60, but people born in this day and age and have issues communicate like that. I'm like really? We, honey, every age people have challenges. Really? I mean, you're 22 growing up now and you're going, gee, masturbation is like unhealthy, really?

That's how we're helping everybody. That's right. Okay, so let's do Kelly 25, California. Hey, Emily, I've been my boyfriend for just over a year and we have the most amazing sex. About six months ago, his refractory period just vanished. He can come and then start another round without even pulling out of me.

He often comes multiple times per session and wants sex multiple times per day. I love it, but I've never been with a guy who can do this and he says it's a new experience for him that has only happened with me. I'm wondering, is this common and could that be the reason for it? Is it his hormones or is our sex really that good? So he comes a lot that he doesn't have a refractory period and the reason why I wanted to talk to this one is because Kelly your 25 I'm going to assume he's about your age and my guy that I was 80 minutes 25

He could just keep coming and coming and coming like I think that it is a youth is on your side And it's it's rare, but he could just Get hard come and then keep going and it was a miracle. Well, I call that and we have a saying, you know, that with some of the younger people, even if they have an issue sometimes with my lasting long enough, I call if they have a machine gun, they don't have to worry about their spring bullets all night. And then you get to a point,

you know, when you're in your mid-40s, you go, you have a rifle. You know what I mean? You get one shot and you take it, it's better be right through the head because I go, at my age, it's like I have a musket. You know what I mean? I gotta put the ball in. You know what I mean? It's like shot and you take it, it's better be right through the head because I go at my age, it's like I have a musket. You know what I mean? I'm gonna put the ball in.

You know what I mean? It's like a half hour to load it up. So, it's one of those things, but according to her, if I read that email or heard you read the email correctly, she said that all of a sudden increased out of nowhere. He wasn't that way. Right. That's not an age thing. I would say her man has maybe a little performance enhancing.

Because that's- Do you think he's taking some like, Seattleist or a ragrogly? It's either a steroid or maybe a combination or a ED drug because you don't go from having normal sex and all of a sudden go, now I can come, a bunch of times my refractory period goes away. That's true.

That comes from increasing hormones, a dramatic increase in hormones or an ED drug. I mean, if you're wired that way from birth, it's one thing, but also in your mid-20s, you go especially with the same sexual partner. I guess so. I guess I just got excited that this happens when you're 25, because I can relate to it.

I can kind of excited. Yeah, but no, you're right, but also, I think that that could be it. You're right, maybe he is taking a drug. You can ask him, is he taking a drug or a cellist? Because if it completely disappeared, so if Kelly, if it was like you've been with him for over a year, and if the first, let's say, nine months, 10 months, he'd come once,

roll over fall asleep, or come once, you have the next day, or come once, wait an hour. But now it's straightforward, no stopping, then you're right. There's something that drastically changed. And you and I both know, because we're not in our early 20s, that the longer...

Although I feel that way. I feel that way, because I do look that way too. That if you are in a relationship, the longer in a relationship, it's gonna go the other way. You're not gonna become more familiarity breeds contempt. They say for a reason and anyone I don't care how creative you are How great your sex is if you don't work at it you're gonna get into a routine. It's like anything in life Everything so the idea that you're gonna be a relationship that you know you have sex once a night

It's fairly routine and all of a sudden halfway with the same person or safe circumstances. You turn into this raving sex god Seriously, no good point that could be it. Yeah, really pull this finger play jingle bell Exactly. I got it. I got it. No, you're right That's a really good point and then also if you're boyfriend those starts to last longer like maybe they're using Promisson that's not a bad thing. Let me look up his name. Let me go my site. Oh, there he is Yeah, I just ordered a three pack. Yeah Yeah, Jeff. I'm so glad you're here. Thank you for being here. And thank you for, I'm so proud of you

and all the success you've had with promising the other. You've been a big part of it. You know, for us, it's about education. I tell this to people because one of the things that we battle against, I always tell people, it's not people loving the product. If we get business, we get repeat business.

The thing is people go, oh, that's one of those light of case phrase, I already tried that. They don't realize that. They've tried to go a bad one, or what? How many times will we get emails, or when I'm talking to people on the website, to get ready to order, they go, you know, I tried Stunt 100, I tried, you know,

Mandalay, Ryze, or Duration. I would never let them, we'll try that stuff. And I go, wait a second. Okay, that's like saying, I drove a Honda Civic, I drove a Ford Pinto. Why would I drive a Ferrari? It's a car, it's got four wheels, I go, well, they work a little differently. Why drove a Ford Pinto. Why would I drive a Ferrari? It's a car, it's got four wheels, I go, well, they work a little differently.

Why don't you take a little test drive and then let me know. And you know, I'm out there, and sometimes I'll say, what's your address? And they'll go, why? I go, I'm a sentry bottle on me. They go, what? And I go, I want you to email me back personally.

And they always do, they'll go, oh my God, thank you. You know, I'm a loyal customer for life. I go, I want you to have the experience to literally make the determination if you think it is better. Almost 90% of people that we've talked to and asked that use our product have used another product prior. And you know how many of them go,

I almost didn't buy because I just, it's not even the idea of spending 19, I just want to be disappointed again. I didn't want to get my hope. Is that all it is? Yeah. That's cheap. Yeah, no. I didn't do that, just it's not even the idea of spending 19 I just want to be disappointed again. I didn't want to get my hopes. Is that all it is? Yeah. That's a shame. Yeah.

No. I didn't do that. I thought, yeah. Yeah. Is we continue to grow. We're doing larger manufacturing runs. We're getting ready to introduce a new model. This is a 30 spray bottle.

It's in between the 10 and 20. I need some. I need some more samples. You will have some FedEx tomorrow. I'll call. I know that. I know the big guys. I can make things happen. I'm like, Paul. Because it's kind of thing when I've guys here, I'm like, I know that, I know that. I think I, yeah. I know the big guy, I think I'll be really loud.

I can make things happen, I'm like, it's kind of thing when I've guys here, I'm like, come into our sex toy closet, which you haven't seen yet. Oh, we have it in our shelf right there. We're gonna have a lot more work in that. We have one more, we have one in our shelf. Look at that Jeff, you're on display.

But it's funny because I always, and I know that like sometimes I'll let guys alone in the closet, because they're not as comfortable and I know that they want it and it's not that. So, anywhere. We read it to that, we talked about that earlier where you know, you have a show and everyone's like, I don't know that they want it. Oh yeah, no. So anyway. We read into that. We talked about that earlier where, you know, you have a show and everyone's like, oh, no, no, no.

Next thing you know, it's like, hey, where does bottles go? Right. It's awesome. Jeff, thank you. From Promacent, everyone can check it out. It will be in the show notes. Thank you for being here. This has been really good.

You've got to come back and we're going to come soon, Vegas soon. Yes. Well, hang out. Two, three weeks. Two, three weeks. I will be in Vegas, you guys. I'll let you know when I'm there. And thank you for being here and taking the long sponsored support of the show.

And I just love knowing you and having you in my life. I love people who educate people about intimacy. It's needed, desperately needed. I know, we don't come. Real talk. Quipped. Yes. Real talk, real sucks.

Just when people are better sucks, and what you're doing, so do you. So thank you to everybody. Thank you. My amazing team. Ken, Jamie, our volunteers, Shannon, Jenny, Sarah, producer, Lark, and Michael. I love you guys. And thanks everyone for listening. Was it good for you? Text Ask Emily to 7-9-7-9-7-9. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪