Sex With Emily - Hotline Calls: Cuckolding & Kinky Sex
Episode Date: September 15, 2023What are your sexual fantasies? No matter how unique (or not) your fantasies are, they teach us something about our needs. On today’s Hotline Calls show, we’re exploring fantasies and partner dyna...mics so we can get our needs met shame-free. First, cuckolding: when a partner, typically male, asks their partner, typically female, to have sex with another man. What if your partner wants it… but you’re not so sure? Next, living with your ex -- if you’re still not over them, how do you successfully connect with others? Later, when you’ve got a unique kink or fetish, how do you talk about it with your partner, especially if they’re freaked out? Is there any way to get that need met? Finally, when a partner says they’re not sexually attracted anymore, how do you call it quits and find the sex you deserve?See the full show notes at sexwithemily.com.Show Notes:The Lover’s Guide to Sexual Etiquette5 Ways To Do It Doggy StyleSHOP WITH EMILY! (free shipping on orders over $69)The only sex book you’ll ever need: Smart Sex: How to Boost Your Sex IQ and Own Your PleasureWant more? Sex With Emily: HomeLet’s get social: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | TikTok Let’s text: Sign Up HereWant me to slide into your inbox? Sign Up Here for sex tips on the regular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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First you said when you met you it's sex every single day for two months.
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in the beginning of a relationship.
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cherish and covet and we tend to go back to that we want that back
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This is from Anonymous. She's a female 40 in Massachusetts. Hi Emily, this is Anonymous. I'm 40 years old. My boyfriend is 44. We are in Massachusetts.
And my question for you is, my boyfriend wants to watch me have sex with another man. And he wants to be part of it. He says it will turn him on, watching me,
fighting so attractive, and he wants to see me
come from another guy.
And they're in part of it being able to kiss me
and touch me.
And I don't know what to think of this.
What does this mean?
What is it going to open up in the future?
He says it would be one thing is done.
And no one else.
He knows that we would find someone safe.
But I just would like to know your opinion
and perhaps experience with a circumstance.
Thank you.
First, you have to know that Cuckolding is what we call this. Typically, it's a heterosexual
couple where the man has a fantasy seeing his partner with another man. That's typically
how it shakes down. It's one of the most common fantasies in America, for sure.
Wow.
So I'm glad this is coming up because we've got to talk about it. So first, let me tell
you this anonymous
It's common. I love that you are slowing down and asking more questions, okay?
Because it is sort of fraught like there's bringing it to the bedroom bringing somebody you don't know
But I have a question for unanimous number one is this hot to you?
I couldn't tell from her voice if she's into it would you be into this because that's the first thing remember this with any
Fantasy you both have to be on board with it.
So, if this is interesting to you and interesting to him, think there needs to be a few more
conversations.
And that is, you could ask him, tell me more about it.
Like, let's walk it through.
Maybe we could dirty talk it when we're like in the bedroom or filling around, like, let
me know what this looks like.
What does he picture that the guy looks like?
What kind of sex acts are happening?
What are you doing?
Because the more you guys can visualize,
or maybe you can talk about it dinner over drinks,
but just I think you both have to get clear
on what that scenario is and then feel it in your bodies.
How does it sit with you?
When you think about yourself with another man,
are you churned on, are you a little bit nervous?
If you are nervous or you have some concern,
what's coming up for you?
And have the conversation with your partner.
Have it all out now and figure out like,
how would you meet this person?
Or what kind of sex acts are on the table?
Is there anything that's off the table?
Would you be going to dinner first,
getting to know him, would you be blindfolded
with this person come into a hotel room?
Would you use your real names or wouldn't you use your real names? Would you be using protection?
What kind of stuff would be happening?
Why do you think that this is such a common fantasy?
Well, there's different theories on that.
It's really taboo.
When you think about the list of what's taboo, right?
This is one of those up there.
Like, especially they have found that people who tend to lean
a little bit more conservative
have this fantasy over others
because if you tend to have more conservative values, you really hold the sanctity of marriage
and commitment in very high regard and family. And so to think I would ever want to see my partner
with somebody else as sort of an ultimate taboo, that's one thing. I mean, there's other theories
too that it's about this sort of, I could say could say humiliation fantasy, like, I'm going to let my partner do that and that's
humiliating to the point where it flips and it's a turn on. Right. So it's a
chororotic desire. A chororotic desire around maybe being humiliated or seeing my partner
with someone else feels very shameful, but then it flips and it's erotic, which by the
way is actually a healthy expression of eroticism.
And especially if there's boundary set
and you're talking about it with your partner.
So those are some of the reasons
and also like he said, it might not be anything.
Like it might not be either one of those.
It might just be that like he said,
I am so turned on by you and I think you're so hot
and just to see you have even more pleasure
is my core right desire.
Like to be that much of a giver and to see my partner,
take it to the next level with somebody else is just a turn on because to see my partner next
is he gives me ecstasy. And we call that compersion, the term compersion sort of relates to this
scenario where I actually am getting deep pleasure for my partner's pleasure. Those are all the
theories why and the reason why I don't say it has to be this or that one is because it might be
a combination about this is what I love about human sexuality is that I'm just out here giving you all information
And then you can think about which one feels right to you and lands right in your body
So then you could make some more decisions around this. I also am curious in situations like this
Whether it's cuckolding or another fantasy when a partner really wants it to happen the other one is a little more hesitant
And the partner who wants it says it's going to be a one and done scenario.
Is that ever really true?
Is that kind of just a way for them to do it once and get them to do it more?
Like what do you think about that?
This is a really important distinction here.
So I think that she does drill down that a little bit more.
You should ask him, like you're saying it's one and done.
But what if we both love it?
What if you really love it? You can't get out of your head. Like, let's talk about the fact that it might not be one and done because now he might be saying one and done just together to do it.
And if this has been a fantasy or let's say it's a core right desire of his, it might not be one and done.
So I think be realistic here and just say like, what's the actual situation here?
Yeah.
What's really going on?
Do you think that's ever a fair argument
when trying to have your partner do a fantasy?
I think that we have to pay attention to the fact
that we probably say those things to get our way
and to get our partner to do something.
It's okay to retract that and say,
you know what, it might not be one and done
because what do we really like it?
Like, we're talking about sex here.
If you really like something sexual
and you're going out and trying something new, like, let's leave it open that possibility that we both love it, and we're talking about sex here. If you really like something sexual and you're going out and trying something new, like let's leave it open
that possibility that we both love it. And we want to do it again. Now if this
actually does happen with them, an important point here is that after this
happens, they need to debrief. You need to talk about where we both turn on. Did
we like it? Well, went right. Well, went wrong. And how would we if we do it again?
What would it look like? So it's important
to sort of do a review, if you will, and see what worked but didn't because this is very delicate
for a committed relationship. And this is why anonymous is asking this because she's like,
this isn't something that my girlfriends were talking about a lunch today, you know,
this isn't common. I even heard this a lot. It's new territory and we really have to like understand it.
And so that's exactly what it is.
You know, what if he's really into it?
She's that what if she's really into it?
And he's like, no, I don't want to do it.
Right.
He's like, never gonna do that again.
And she's like, I loved every moment of it.
So when we're playing with our sexuality and with a partner,
we have to be open and say, I'm not sure what's gonna happen here,
but we care about each other now.
If we have a really solid commitment, we love each other, we have great communication
skills, and we're gonna figure out the way that we can both get our needs met in this relationship.
And that might mean that it happens, and it might never happen again.
And it can still be used as fodder for dirty talk, as you said.
That's the best thing when people explore, people open up, or they swing, and they find,
like, it's not like it's every time they have sex but sometimes once you're like this playing out of fantasy once can work for like months
dirty talk for like months or years to come remember that time when we found that guy and we're in
Vals Vegas and we got a hotel room like that was really hot and that could be fodder for years to come
so there's a lot of different ways you can slice this scenario here but just make sure
that you guys are on the same page and practice really comprehensive communication. Thanks a lot, Emma. Thanks a lot, Emma. Let's see how it goes.
This is from Nicholas 33 in Dallas, Texas. Hi Emily. My name is Nicholas from Dallas. I am 33
So I'm currently living with my ex-boyfriend mainly because we have six months left on our lease and we both didn't want to break the lease or anything.
We've been split up for about seven months now and I'm kind of having a hard time, I guess dating or being intimate with someone else. Obviously,
I'm not over him, but I know it's a done deal. As I've seen, you've already had several conversations
about it and everything. I'm just not sure how to get back in to being intimate with other people,
get back in to being intimate with other people, feeling the same sensation, everything. I know people think, oh, you're a male.
Any hole is a good hole.
You know, that type of thing.
But obviously it's not the same for me.
Either I finish too quickly or I don't finish at all and it's just not a pleasurable experience for me.
Thank you. Bye.
All right, Nicholas. Thank you so much for your question and sounds tough right now to be broken
up with somebody but to still be living with them. So go easy on yourself that feeling like you can
have a clean slate and that your fresh chocolate meet someone new and be really into your body and connected.
It's really hard when you get home every night and you're ex-boyfriend and you're still seeing him every day.
Right. So let me just normalize that for you. That's not easy.
But what you're also saying I think is interesting that everyone says, oh, just a whole and you're a man. And no, we're all so different.
So me, I love that you're able to say, yeah, I get that some people feel like that,
but that's not for me.
I just wanted to assure you that when you're ready,
I believe like really ready,
and that might be when you guys are no longer living together
or maybe when you find someone
that you feel comfortable with and you're ready,
you will get the sensations back.
You will learn to feel connected again.
It takes time.
Would work with somebody for a while
and they become the person that we're having sex with.
Remember, there's muscle memory,
there's our brain plasticity
and all the things that get connected
to the way we get aroused.
He's currently your source for that.
And now we're looking at transferring it
so you can be with somebody else.
And sometimes that's a really quick leap.
You know, just because you're ready, maybe in your mind, doesn't mean that all of you
is really ready. And again, because you're living together, it makes it a little bit more
challenging. So I would say, just go easy on yourself. And maybe you could start to expand your
friend group by just going out with people and being in the experience of making new friends and
seeing people that you may or may not be attracted to,
but how great to meet people in an environment
that feels less like this is a date,
and I should feel roused and I should be turned on,
but it's something that's more casual
as you're getting used to being single again
and being out there in the world
and putting less pressure on yourself
to being a connected sexual place
and a greater emphasis on just feeling connected
to people out there in your community.
Sometimes I feel like that's what's gonna work and it's a more holistic approach to healing from a break up a movie
gone and then just I got to find someone else.
Right, a replacement.
An instant replacement first is reconnecting with yourself after a breakup.
What do you look like as a single person?
How do you live your life?
And again, I understand that this is a really complicated scenario because it's hard to live like a single person
when you're still living with the person
you were coupled up with.
And especially if your ex-boyfriend is moving on themselves,
that would be tough.
If like I could definitely see, you know,
the tendency to compare yourself to your ex.
And that's when we're not living together.
And now you're like seeing him walk
to the kitchen and his boxers, like making coffee.
Right.
If you still doing that, I mean, that's just not easy.
Exactly.
So go easy on yourself.
You said you've been split up for seven months now.
That's not a long time in the overall relationships.
We have to remember that we are not rubber bands.
We don't just snap back.
Our brains are just like, okay, now I'm ready
for a relationship.
No, our entire bodies are connected to this person,
our brain, our body, spirituality, physicalities.
Like there's ways that we get into the groove
of being with someone and we can't just on magly
pop out of a relationship into another one.
Exactly.
Enjoy your time being single.
There's no need to rush to get back in another relationship
just cause you just got out of one.
Right, exactly.
Wait for the right person.
So true, there's just no shit that when we're single,
it's just a stopover to relationships.
That we're somehow like broken or incomplete a single,
but being single is a really, I think, a delightful time
for growth, for understanding yourself.
And don't forget the relationship with yourself
of masturbation and get out of your self pleasure.
So you're not automatically linking that pleasure to your past,
but you're also able to have a bridge here
where you're really having great solo sessions
with yourself before you get out there and date as well.
It's all gonna help feel you towards the relationship
that you're looking for in the future.
Especially because he didn't talk about,
he finishes too quickly or not at all.
If you really reconnect with your solo sacks,
your masturbation, that'll be great.
If it's not a pleasure or experience for you, don't do it.
No pressure.
Can we all just take the pressure off ourselves right now?
What are you pressuring yourself for?
Think about it.
It could be anything in your life right now.
Is that necessary?
Do you need to be pressuring yourself and being hard on yourself?
Because most of us do that and we don't need to when we're really able to take a look
at it. So I give everyone permission right now to take
their foot off the gas and let go of one thing that you're being really hard
in yourself for right now. Love that. It's gonna feel so much better.
Thanks, Nicholas. Thank you.
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33 in Southern California. Hi, I'm 33 years old in Southern California.
And yeah, like I said a question about just kind of like sex and communication and my wife
and I don't really have really great communication with them, but I'm also into something called ABDL or ABDL.
And I sit around a lot of things just because she's not into it or thinks it's completely
wrong, sounds like demonic and just wants nothing to do with it.
And I find it would be something that I could live without, but because I'm suppressing
things and I'm able to talk about it, it might
jeopardize our marriage. I just don't know kind of like what to do. Like, is it normal?
Is it something that I would grow out of or can eliminate? Or is it just because this kink is here?
It's just who I am in a way. I don't know if that's really a question, but hopefully you can answer it.
Thanks, Caleb.
So appreciate you and your question.
So just to clarify here what he's talking about,
I think that's important.
What he's talking about is adult baby diaper fetish.
And so what this is, we call it age play.
It's a specific form of fantasy role play,
where your partner is embodying a different age
than they actually are.
So we hear that with DDLG,
or daddy-dom little girl,
where you're playing a little girl,
and your partner's paying the daddy.
And so in this one, in particular,
he wants to play an adult baby, but in a diaper,
and have his partner sort of infantilize him.
We call it perifelic infantilism.
Just so people understand what it is, basically what he's saying is he wants to be in a diaper,
and have his wife partake in this fantasy, which is one that's a little bit more intense
and would take some really deep understanding of the psychology behind it and what you actually
need.
And it's really not for everybody,
which I understand.
It's part of a core erotic theme.
A lot of us have these core erotic desire
that we have since childhood.
And there's things that we actually require for a rousal.
This might even be a fetish.
So when we have a fetish,
fetish is something that's a requirement for a rousal.
Like basically what he's saying is he would need to be
in a adult diaper with his partner participating
in caretaking or whatever that fantasy is for him to be aroused, for him to get a
ruckian, to be turned on.
If you have an adult diaper, baby, fantasy, it's a nice to have.
It's really fun every once in a while to play around with this, but I don't need to have
it.
A fetish is required, a fantasy is a nice to have. It sounds to me like with the suppression that he's doing, it's a requirement.
Caleb, my recommendation is you could take some more time explaining to your wife what it actually
means for you. When this desire came about, what do you understand about it? How it might look
in your relationship if you actually want it to be actualized? Is it once a month? What would she have to do?
What's it like? So maybe there is a point where she's like, I
really love you. This took me off guard. I didn't really
understand it. But I love you. And I will do anything that you
need to be turned on. Yes, I can do it once a month, twice
a month, and we could do other things. Or, you know, she might
say, I hear you, I'm out. It's not my jam. It's not my
thing. I really hope that you understand that she might say, I hear you, I'm out. It's not my jam, it's not my thing.
I really hope that you understand that.
First off, Caleb, I think it's wonderful
that you are able to express us and to your partner.
And I know that if she isn't the right partner for you
that you can find somebody who will be,
that will be able to share this fetish fantasy with you.
It's just something that we don't talk about a lot. We
would not have another understanding around it. But yeah, if this is a core desire and actually
a fetish, then we're going to have to find a way for you to get this need met in a relationship
with a supportive partner. Yeah, I wonder if your wife would feel comfortable with you working
with some sort of sex worker in the sense that there are actually sex workers who sometimes don't even touch you.
It's truly like to help you feel that core erotic desire or sometimes there are sex workers who only touch you from the neck up.
Like you can set different limits.
Yes, absolutely.
So there could be a world in which you get to experience that core erotic desire of infantilization without your wife having to partake in it or without you having to separate or go outside the marriage
or you can open up.
There's a lot of different ways to get your needs met.
There's a lot of different ways.
And I do know actually some men who do pay for
dominate tricks and people to sort of have their fantasies
filled while their partners are like,
I'm out of this, like outsourcing.
It's like outsourcing parts of your sex life.
And while that might be very extreme to many people, this is the world we live in now.
There's a lot of ways to get access to people who would want to share in certain fantasies
with us.
This is where relationships have to have healthier conversations around boundaries and
what's hot and what works.
But once we get our head around the fact that we can all get our needs met in relationship
with really excellent communication, I think this could be a viable option
if she's down with it.
We just have to get her to understand that it's not
about emotions, it's not about him having an affair,
it's not about any of that, it's really just about
getting this really core need met.
And if she can't do it.
And who knows, like maybe if he does find a way to get a met,
then they could find other ways to please her.
Maybe just give her an opening
to start exploring what her core fantasies are,
and her core is also.
But I love that he doesn't feel any shame about it.
It doesn't seem like it.
No, but I know that too.
He's like, well, I'm gonna figure out what works.
Yeah.
I'm not gonna suppress it anymore,
because I can't.
Here's the other thing.
If you have a fetish, it's really hard to suppress it.
It doesn't go away just because you suppress it.
It's going to rear its head
and it's going to kind of just keep speaking to you
and asking you to pay attention to it
so you can have a fulfilling sex life.
So that's what happens.
Thanks Caleb.
Ishaani 34 in Washington, DC.
Hi, I'm 34 year old female
and I live in a DC area.
I've been dating a 41 year old for over a year old female and I lived in a beefy area. I've been dating a 41 year old for over a year.
We broke up back in January because he felt like we weren't
sexually compatible.
So I asked him what he needed.
He gave me examples of what he needed.
A lot of them were porn related.
I also felt like he wasn't meeting my needs
or initiating what I needed.
So that ended up in us breaking
out because sometimes he would lose his erection. I think he was just frustrated. But when we first
met we had sex like everything will take for like two months. We ended up getting back together.
I was working on things that you know he wanted out of me insects but it's like he would never
initiate having sex with me or guiding me and telling me what he wants more over and
anything like that. I'm not sure if he just thinks I'm not capable of doing it, but we ended up breaking up again.
And this time he told me that he feels like he's not as physically attracted to me anymore or at
time, and sometimes he doesn't want to have sex with me. And he's still being felt we're not sexually compatible.
When I asked him what he doesn't find physically attractive about me anymore,
he's like, I like women that are career, which I am curvy.
But then he said like an example was like having muscle-y guys.
My body hasn't changed.
Some people have not me. It's been the same.
And so I'm just confused.
I feel like, you know, I've tried to do everything I could in the relationship and you know
I was also pregnant before he broke up with me. The day before it was telling me that he wanted to grow and have his family with me.
And then like, both hours later, he broke up with me for not being sexually compatible and not being as attractive.
So I was also more in put. Thank you. First, I just want to say that this sounds like a really tricky situation.
And it sounds hurtful. He's using language that is just not really kind.
And he's a little bit all over the place. He's attracted to you.
He's not attracted to you. You're back and forth.
First, let me impact this. Okay. I'm going through your question here.
First, you said when you met you, it sexed every single day for two months.
We all do. Okay. That to belittle this, but I just want to say this to everybody that sex is usually great
in the beginning of a relationship.
And that's our usually we stay with somebody is because those early days fueled by new relationship
energy and the best cocktail of hormones is something that we all just really cherish
and covet and we tend to go back to that.
We want that back.
But remember, it doesn't last forever and then we have to create a new kind of depth
and a new kind of connection
if we move into a relationship.
Sounds like he's just saying things
that are a little bit hurtful to you.
And I don't really think this is about you, per se.
He's saying that he wants you to be curvier
and your body hasn't changed.
It just sounds confusing.
And then you're pregnant and he broke up with you.
And like, I just think this sounds like a little bit toxic.
That whole thing about wanting you to change at a physical level whenever I hear things
like that, I just hear people mostly it's about themselves and him not really understanding
his own sexuality right now and maybe sort of blaming you and putting it on you.
It's kind of working and it's making you feel bad.
Again, I don't think this is conscious and I'm sure that there's a lot of wonderful things
about him. But since we don't have the language, it's just a lot easier to Again, I don't think this is conscious and I'm sure that there's a lot of wonderful things about him,
but since we don't have the language, it's just a lot easier to say, well, you're not as curvy as I want,
you're not doing the things I want, and I made it, but I'm not in it.
So I just think for you, this could just be a great sign for you to maybe end this relationship once and for all,
and really work on what you want sexually. It says that here you're doing a lot of servicing of what he wants,
and you keep trying to do what he likes, which is very common, especially being a vulva owner in society.
A lot of us want to do what our partner wants, but I think the more you can take the time to figure out your own body
and your own pleasures and what makes you feel good in relationship and finding partners who are open to having conversations about what mutually feels good to both of you
instead of like sort of leaving it all in your partner's hands to decide what's good sex.
The pregnancy I think kind of throws a wrench in it. Obviously, if you need his care to co-parent, that is crucial.
But I think if there's no baby involved, I would really question what your reasons are to stay in this relationship.
I think that you sound like an amazing person
who could find someone who loves you just the way you are.
You shouldn't have to be fighting
for your partner's approval.
No, not at all.
And you don't need to change your body.
You don't need to change what they want.
He's telling you he wants something that's different
than just like listen to that.
And maybe some therapy would be helpful
because I feel like when we hear sometimes
these kind of things from our partners,
we're just worried that it is you, and it's something that you did, but I can tell you
after many, many years, if you're having these kind of scenarios, like this really isn't about you,
and it's actually more about him. And so the more you can work on loving yourself,
keeping your own pilot light lit, and figuring out who you are as a sexual being, you're going to
bring that energy into a relationship, and you'll be attracting partners who are also into that
collaborative energy of finding mutual turn-on celebrations of each other as you are today.
You feel like a partner just wants you to change all the time.
That is not the ideal relationship to be in.
It says that they're not saying you're okay as you are, they're dating you on potential,
and that never works.
All right, thank you so much for your question and keep doing you.
That's it for today's episode, see you on Tuesday.
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