Shawn Ryan Show - #158 Călin Georgescu - Does Romania's Coup Reveal NATO's Desperation to Push WW3?

Episode Date: January 13, 2025

Călin Georgescu is a prominent Romanian politician, agronomist, and frontrunner of the contested 2024 Romanian presidential election. He holds a Ph.D. in pedology from the University of Agronomic Sciences and Veterinary Medicine of Bucharest, served as the Executive Director of the National Centre for Sustainable Development in Romania from 2000 to 2013, coordinated Romania's National Sustainable Development Strategy, and held positions as Executive Director of the UN Global Sustainable Index Institute and President of the European Research Centre for the Club of Rome. In the 2024 Romanian presidential election, Georgescu emerged as a surprise frontrunner over pro-Western candidate Elena Lasconi, winning the first round with 22.95% of the votes. His campaign focused on national development, sovereignty, and reducing Romania's dependence on imports. The results were then annulled by the sitting Romanian government following allegations of Russian interference and the use of undeclared campaign funds - drawing comparisons to recent political turmoil in the USA. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://tryarmra.com/srs https://www.bubsnaturals.com/shawn https://cozyearth.com/srs https://rocketmoney.com/srs https://ShawnLikesGold.com | 855-936-GOLD #goldcopartner https://americanfinancing.net/srs NMLS 182334, nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.458% for well qualified borrowers. Call 866-781-8900 for details about credit costs and terms. Călin Georgescu Links: Website - https://calingeorgescu.ro Instagram - https://instagram.com/calingeorgescuoficial Facebook - https://facebook.com/calingeorgescuro TikTok - https://tiktok.com/@calingeorgescuoficial YouTube - https://youtube.com/c/CălinGeorgescuOficial Please leave us a review on Apple & Spotify Podcasts. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website | Patreon | TikTok | Instagram | Download Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I appreciate it. Quick introduction. You are at the center of one of the most talked about political events in Europe right now. You ran as an independent nationalist candidate who unexpectedly stirred up a political storm in Romania. The first round of voting, you won with 23% of the vote. On December 4th, the U.S. expressed concerns over Russian involvement in cyber activities influencing this election. On December 6th, the Romanian Constitutional Court annulled the results due to allegations of the Russian interference with zero evidence.

You are known to be a man of the people and you are a believer in Jesus Christ from what I understand. And so before I start, I found a verse that I thought was very fitting for what you're going through, what the US is going through and what the world is going through right now. It's Ephesians 612. For we are not fighting against flesh and blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world and against evil spirits in heavenly places.

Thank you. I appreciate it. Just one mention that independent, yes, but dependent by the Romanian people. I am for the working class. I am for the working class, I am for the working families, I am for the, to foster the domestic economy and to don't depend about others, but looks that it is wrong for the oligarch system Which by the way in order to start I am To be very clear. I am I am NOT political correct person and I am

against Or I am anti oligarch system and anti woke I am anti LGBT and Let's be very clear, we are with God and we are for our land, and this has to be for all the countries around the world, not only for Romania. If it's a signal for Romania, it's great, but in any case, we have to be free men, free people, as the gods blessing us from the very beginning. But looks at the oligarch system, which already they lost, they didn't know yet.

Or they know that they don't want to realize that this happened. What has happened. I think they know. We dance, I am telling you, Sean. I think they know. We are dancing now. You know, I've seen a lot of similarities from what I've gathered in, with this election that's happening in Romania right now,

also with the 2020 election in the United States and the election that we just went through and So I know you have a limited time and you're a busy man. And so I want to start with what are the allegations against you? You know what Lies rush Truth waits. Always. Because we cannot do a change if we are not

say the truth. The truth is the most important part of our life. And all this stuff are related to his interviewer from Russia, which doesn't exist. I have no any relationship myself. And besides, there are zero proofs in general what they are talking about. How do they think Russia interfered? What are they saying? They are saying that they're interested, but they don't explain how.

Important is they don't, even the former president, Yohannis, had an interview in December. And the journalist asked him exactly as you asked me, no. And he said, we have no proofs. We have just, we suspect, we have had suspicion. So there was a very broad statement. Very broad statement, yeah. No specifics. Even in the Bucharest court where we have, I mean, they have no evidence. Did this stem from the Biden administration? Yeah, I mean, what I want to say is from the beginning that the second round of elections was illegally and unconstitutionally cancelled. They stolen the vote of the people.

New elections, as they are talking now, are fraud even bigger. Right? And the Romanian people are aware that was a coup d'etat Order from abroad and implement it By Romanian oligarchs Because by Romanian oligarchs. Because I want to underline the most important sentence of our conversation today. They are alert about the word peace because they need war. And from the beginning, now and forever, I am the person for peace. I am the president of peace. And all my campaign was for peace.

And I said, we don't need war. We need just peace. And when they asked me different, let's say, legacy media, with some time, they preferred the lies instead of truths, I said, yes, I shall stop in the first second any contribution from Romania for this war. Who are some of these oligarchs in Romania? Do they do? You know, the system is everywhere. The system is in civil servants. It's a system.

They are in a is a system they they They are in a network made by Soros from early beginning of 90 from Soros your soros. Yeah George Soros that just got the which the same situation as he made everywhere and was a civil society destroyed totally from 1990. And I wish to be very clear that in the first minute when I shall be official president, the Soros network in Romania will be banned. Banned. banned because it did a lot of damage for our country and for our people. A lot.

A lot. Significant. And it's not only for Romania. And by the way, this situation which they made now, they set a dangerous situation, you know, a dangerous precedent, not only for Romania, for the whole world, and most special for United States because I know and I was trained and I received the massive constructive education in the United States. I remember very well in 1992 when I was first time in the United States. I remember with, okay, the idea of environment, which is my background, but I learned about the idea, the strong idea of Thomas Jefferson, of Lincoln, of Washington, what does mean the democracy? What is democracy today? They installed the

dictatorship with this situation and again they set a dangerous situation, a dangerous precedent for what will happen next in the United States. Because they don't understand Washington, particularly today, or the new administration, that this could be a wave. Very dangerous for all of us. It's not only for Romania. Our dialogue today is not only for Romania, I want to speak. You are here because you are aware, as we changed some words before our interview,

that the situation is terribly dangerous everywhere. And particularly exactly in the country where we are looking all of us for the big changement, for the freedom, for the real democracy. I mean, after so many years, we arrive in the point that they impose the dictatorship. And this is very dangerous because, again, it's a precedent for all of us, for the whole world right now.

Yes, a lot of people, including Romania, they are looking for January 20. But I don't know if we shall arrive to January 20 and all of us will be happy on that. The only thing which I can guarantee today to you is what's happening in Romania is one very important step. The people are together. We are one, and this is very important. Because the people, they realize what is going on, and they realize the situation, and they realize that the system was exposed,

his corruption. This is extremely important for us. Of course, this is not justice, not only Romania. Justice doesn't exist in the country. When is the last time that Romania had a president that wasn't under the influence of oligarchs in the deep state? Has there ever been a...

This was started already in 1990. So 1989 was coup d'etat together with a revolutionary act from the people, the true believers at the time. Okay. But in fact, it was a coup d'etat. And Soros Network, particularly, they stolen the country immediately. with zero capacity in order to produce our domestic economy. And in general, the people are some, it's another country, another Romanian country subroad, which is,

of course it's very dangerous and it's not good for us. So it's one country outside, one country inside. And it's not they are not they don't left for good. They left Romania because they need decent work and they need a dignity. When it comes to the allegations against the Russian influence in the election process right now, I just want to ask you, man to man, have you had any contact with Vladimir Putin? No, zero.

Absolutely zero. Is there anybody in your campaign that you're aware of? Nobody. Importantly, particularly myself. I have no relationship, no contacts, no communication, just I know like you from the TV this is all. But in any case, important is that nobody ask official them. I mean, in a sense, those guys which they accused us, I'm speaking about the Romanian side, they didn't ask the Russian embassy or official, let's say, conversation with them what is going on here. No. conversation with them.

What is going on here? No. And there is zero evidence. So, my side, from my side, as I said, it's zero contact. From their side, no evidence. So, everything which is going on today in the whole world is because is Russia influence Seems to be the commonality so exactly is like a

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Doesn't exist dialogue. It's just, you know, the war has his invisible side because behind the war is head of snake, which is a financial banking system. They need, as I said to you before, they are alert of the world peace because they need war. Because war doesn't mean a lot of influence and money, and in general the objective are the natural resources. We have problems, a lot of problems as a country, not only from now, in the history. Why?

Because we are rich as a country. Very rich country is Afghanistan, very rich country is Ukraine, extremely rich country is Russia. There are a few countries, very, very, very, very rich. Look Africa, why Africa is like this? Because it's very rich. In fact, it's a continent, of course, it's very rich, but all the countries are very rich in Africa.

I know that there is a lot of Russian and Chinese influence in Africa right now because of those resources. Those are the sources. Exactly. But the sign is that they give to them the chance to be free, as before, the colonial regime. You know what they did. The slavery is very, very present today. It's not abolished.

So when it comes, I just want to ask my question, are you pro-Russia in the Ukraine war, yes or no? I am pro-Romanian. You're pro-Romanian. I don't care what is going on there. It's just my business. It's not my business. How you can have a war in the middle of Europe, just think about that.

It's a crazy time. I mean, it's incredible. I mean, I was trained for diplomacy, for dialogue. We have all the capacity in a dialogue to discuss about this. Nobody needs about this. I understood, or I had a number, that United States and together with Europe till now, they invest more than 300 million in this world.

Could be wrong, could be right, I don't know. But anyway, looks that is most probably that. So how you can do with this money in the moment when you have more than 25% of the whole world is under the level of poverty, which has been below $2 per day. Okay? Have you been sometime in Africa? I have been to Africa. I have been many times, eight years.

And I know the situation there. They invest in both sides and they fight. Mm-hmm. What does it mean for this third millennium? Where do we arrive as people, as human beings, besides our national countries and our nationalism and our freedom, the most important is that we are very, very close to lose humanity from us. And this is my way with my people.

Again, I'm not pro-Sama. I'm not pro-American. I'm not pro-Chinese. I'm not pro-Russia. I'm not pro-American, I'm not pro-Chinese, I'm not pro-Russian, I'm not pro-Ukraine, I'm just pro-Romanian, but I'm pro-humanity. This is a most important part of my campaign and my way. Would it be fair to say you're just totally indifferent to the Russia-Ukraine situation?

Your only concern is you don't want Romania involved. Could be more specific. You just don't want Romania involved in the Russia-Ukraine conflict? Yes. I don't want to involve my country there. It's not our war. It's we have to take care about our land, only about our land, about our welfare, about our families. I wish, and I definitely have to be a president

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Because if you are speaking or if you are writing because someone behind you pay you. Exactly as Trump said, follow the wardrobe. You know, I think that the world is on the precipice of a media revolution and legacy media every day is losing more and more credibility. Legacy media, yes. The media landscape is being revolutionized by podcasts like this. Indeed, indeed. And moreover, it's...

The people, they have to recognize what's... What's happening in Romania because Romania made act of that, of dignity, of honor, which not exists too much spread in the world today. So the Romanian people, they are looking for the dignity of human being. They are looking for the dignity of our country. To be, to, to, to, to wait to respect, you have to respect first yourself. You know, and it's not secure for any person today in the world because it's not a code of morality. Doesn't exist.

And for this reason I said what has happened now in Romania and there's no reaction from abroad, especially from the United States. They don't understand what is going on here, because if they use Romania as a door for war, what would be next? So first of all, they kill the democracy, they install the dictatorship, would be a precedent, as I said, for the whole world and especially for the United States. Because all the people, they are looking for the changement which President Trump will arrive soon. How can do that if he's not reaction exactly to the main important door for the democracy and of the situation which is today.

I mean, again, this was happening the last year in December 6 when they cancelled, as I said, the second round of election. And they definitely installed the dictatorship in Romania. So today it's quite more than one month no reaction. I can understand the situation official to be recognized to be officially, but even that, you can have a reaction, no reaction. And this is also, I said, for the Romanian people, it's important because we expose the corruption of the system with this situation, and we expose the corruption everywhere because I said the Romanian people I said in the early beginning it's aware of the fact that was a coup d'etat exactly as I said

order from abroad and implemented by the Romanian oligarchs and implemented by the Romanian oligarchs. European Union is totally for this war. We are not. It's not our war. It's not our problem. Again, we are looking just for peace. I don't want to see one man, one young man

I want to see one man, one young man, to be involved in this situation. I think a lot of people agree with you on that. Exactly. I want to move to your campaign. It's my understanding that your campaign did not require a lot of money, a lot of capital. You don't trust the legacy media, and you took to social media.

What we saw in 2020 during the Trump-Biden election is Mark Zuckerberg completely de-platformed President Trump. He wasn't allowed to use any social media platforms. Jack Dorsey kicked him off of Twitter I believe even Google Also deplatformed him. Are you experiencing any Deplatforming or censorship on any of your social media campaigns? John first of all the social media was used by All the politicians, correct? Everywhere. I mean it's not not myself first. But in our specific case our

campaign used zero budget because this was my wish. In order to foster and to, yeah, to foster the Romanian people for the future and for our real democracy and freedom. This was my decision, no budget for that. So the narrative changed the situation, my narrative, not the social media. Social media was just a network in order to rolling, to roll the narrative, the ideas. Yes, indeed. But this was made by a thousand, hundred thousand people. I was not involved in on that.

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Again, zero. We are here and we trust in our land. We trust in God. And this is all which we need. So the problem is, Sean, is you can see also your question, which is normal to give to me, is that the people, they don't realize they could be in other form this campaign, because simply they remain in their track and they don't believe there could be other solution, other alternative. Why? Could be.

Why you have to remain, because we are not free for this reason. We are not free in our mind to think that can be not an alternative. We can think different. How have they shut you down? It's my understanding you won you won the first round with 23% of the vote. Am I correct on that? This is correct after of course they they stolen a lot. It's so probably was more than 30% but it was more

than 30% yeah yeah because we know from from calculation, but in any case was 23rd, as you said, and I want to mention it early beginning, they put me on the screen with less than 1% until the end of the day. Wow. Yeah. So for disease, and I mean, all the calculations for them, they were wrong, totally wrong or manipulate. What means do you think they'll go to to try to stop you? I mean we talked about how they

deplatformed Trump in 2020 this election we saw two assassination attempts we've seen false allegations with all kinds of things in Georgia and New York and so what are you expecting to deal with as this election resurfaces? From what I understand, is it May they'll redo the election? This year? Yes, yes. Yes, yesterday they promoted.

Exactly as I said, the new election. New elections are fraud, even bigger than what they make already. Because we discuss about the second round cancel illegally and unconstitutional. How did they do that? Simply like that, by order. Are you ex-

Because Romanian Constitutional Court is something which they made from the beginning in order to help them, help the system, the oligarch system in any situation. Which doesn't mean what they did is finished. If they said our dialogue today, Kalino is strong, is wrong, they cancel. Is Romania in the midst of a coup right now? Indeed. That's what's happening. It's a coup d'etat in no shame in front of all the world. And the problem, Sean, is no reaction.

This is just the reaction from our people, of course, from the Romanian people, also from abroad. This is absolutely clear. Everyone in Europe you have seen, also in Canada and not only, also in the United States. I'm speaking about Romanian people. But no official position. So in other words, what is going on here? We accept the dictatorship.

Does it mean that even in the United States, they accept this? So maybe tomorrow we can see in front of us that this happens with dictatorship in Washington. I don't know. So this precedent is very, very dangerous because nobody act. I ask you how the former president, which is still totally legal in the position today, how he can have an international meeting or position because he's illegal. The government is illegal.

Everything is illegal after the December 6th of the last year. Nobody said anything. How much of this coup has to do with the NATO base that they're building in Romania right now? From my understanding, this will be the biggest NATO base ever to be built in Europe, 1.5 times bigger than Ramstein Air Base. I understood also this. Ten thousand troops. Air Base. I understood also this. Ten thousand troops.

I understood. I understood. We, by the way, they are not Romanians. So probably they had the plan before and the Romanian people, they changed their plan. And for this reason, they put a constitutional court to stop and to cancel the second round. Because again, I was and I am, and I should be forever for peace. Why you have to have war? Why you have to? We don't need war. This is my point. What will the implications of Romania be if the NATO bases goes to completion?

Will be a way for a dangerous situation of democracy in the United States. It's an important point. I would think it would be a major, there would be major implications for Romania too if Russia decides to strike that base. It's true, but also for United States, because from United States, we're looking for the democracy. And that's the point which I said to you.

And here we are exactly on this point, that the situation and the whole system of democracy is affected everywhere today. Look what's happening in Canada. It's a wave of changement and the real people as President Trump, they don't realize what is going on here. What is happening in Canada? What is happening in Austria?

What is happening in France? You know very well. In Germany, by the way, in Europe. Okay, I can understand that each country has its own problem and not easy to manage, especially the debt. Correct? The debt, the loans we dated before. We discussed in the United States about 35 trillion debt, which is not easy to be managed. I can understand, even for us. But still, it's a problem of human being communication. It's a human being, you know, part of this life

related to his God. If in the notes of one dollar is we trust in God, is real or not? This is my question for Washington. We trust in God. We trust in Romania, for sure. Otherwise, we cannot arrive here. We don't arrive here without that. God made us to arrive here at this point. this way of dignity but have faith Sean and exactly here we are today you have

or you don't faith it's a main important point of our dialogue today. And this is my message. You trust or not in God, because here is a spiritual level. This is absolutely clear. clear and it's not just a matter of let's say economic situation which I can understand but it's not it's nothing more than that we are here in a Ford, a big shift after 2000 years of, let's say, of no real democracy, especially in the last 100 years. Romanian people, we don't play games. We are very, very straight for our dignity and for our honor.

And we are totally convinced and commit to continue for the dignity of us, of human beings, beside anything else. Otherwise it doesn't mean that what you are doing in this world, why you arrive here, it's a question. Why we are here? For what purpose? What is our way? Why you arrive special in this time? No, 100 years ago or 500 years ago.

The world is definitely a day, major decision point. Yeah, but we have to recognize the consciousness. We have to conduct us. Could you be a little bit more specific as to the consequences to the United States if the NATO base does go to completion? Very good question.

NATO, based on its own constitution, is a defensive organization, correct? Everybody is knowing that. Perfect. For this reason, we, as people, even for European Union, even for NATO, we are totally agree and we like to be like that. It's fine. Again, it's fine. But in the moment when you change the

Constitution and you want to be offensive organization, it's change the game. In the middle of the game, change the rules. And here we cannot accept this point because if they change the rule and NATO becomes an offensive organization, that means that it's not anymore NATO, correct? Correct. That's where I thought you were going. And this is a huge influence for the United States, especially today with the war in Ukraine. If you're like me, health and wellness is extremely important to you. But how do you know who to trust when it comes to the supplement industry?

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This is the difference. And the legacy media, they are talking about other things, which is not the truth. What the United States in the early beginning told you lies in Russia. The truth waits. So this NATO base, just to be clear, the biggest NATO base ever to be built in Europe is going to be constructive to conduct a major offensive into Russia. Exactly this is the word, offensive, which is wrong way. And we cannot accept this. Simply that.

Of course it's not our business. It's not our war again. We have no, how can I say, war again. We have no, how can I say, it's not evidence. There doesn't exist evidence on that. Why we have to be involved on that? We have no reason to do that. And again, you cannot change the rules during the game.

If you do win the presidency here, we reconstruct the Romanian government. How much we have to, how much of the government is corrupt? All. All of it? All of them. How will you reconstruct that?

It's very simple. Very simple. You don't have to do something specific for that, but for sure, in the moment when productive property is spread everywhere, that means you spread the power to each citizen. You got my point? Because each of them will be free. He has the capacity to produce profit with his own hands.

And the states help him. Because the private property is a key element. And here I am, exactly as Tomas G Jefferson made. I don't invade the will, I'm telling you. I just, I learn from our predecessors, as Thomas Jefferson was. For me, it's an absolute ideal one. And here we discuss about how we can spread the productive property, how we can spread the power to the people in order to produce goods and value added. And we don't sell just the natural resources like that. We sell value added.

You don't sell the timber, you sell the chair, or you sell the furniture. You sell the products made from the resources. So this does mean that in the moment when you empower your people to produce and to foster the domestic economy, the country immediately, they clean the corruption. Because the corruption now dictate what dictate? Dictate the process. And in the moment when they dictate this, the big fish eat the small fish and it's finished. I mean the the domestic

Product the domestic people they don't have any word To say the farmers in Romania There are under the dictatorship of the oligarch system so just And this was my plan my my program, food, water and energy, exactly as Kennedy spoke in the United States, even Trump, Kennedy was very specific. We have to change agriculture. We have to give

real food to our children because we are sick as nation. Except this is happening, but my program was more or less a more specific on that. Food, water and energy. We produce food, good quality of food, natural food, water, good quality, energy. We have all the energy is necessary.

Why you have to import energy? This is a very, very basic things which we have all the energy is necessary. Why you have to import energy? This is a very, very basic things which we have to do. So in other words, we change the situation, change the economic situation. This is a big changement which we have to do. So we don't change the people, we change the system. You got my point. I get your point. What kind of energy?

How are you going to expand energy? We have a lot of water. Hydro. Hydro. So first of all, hydro is top. We have oil a lot. Of course, now it's not ours, it's to others too, always general to others. But this is not the, we, everything can be reshaping, can be changed.

But we have hydro, we have oil, we have coal, a lot. So we have everything So we can be the main exporter of energy in the in the region by the way the main exporter of the region we have gas a lot of gas including in the Black Sea So we as I said to you our problem is our richness We have problems now because we are very, very rich. And this is a problem. If you do become the president, will you have the power to

stop the construction of the NATO base? I have the power to install the peace. This is for sure. The people and in general the entire international world, they have to recognize the peace, not the peace. This is for sure. The people and in general the entire international world, they have to recognize the peace, not the war. We don't need war. It's absolutely crazy things which we are doing today in all the countries. Speaking about any country, if you wish, whatever country you choose, in Europe, China, Russia, United States, why you need this? No, I ask you, why? Why we need?

If we can cooperate, we have just one planet which give to us everything, can cover all the needs which we are looking for, but for sure, cannot cover one our greed If we trust in God why we need work I ask you I ask you personally today Why if we said we trust in God, correct? Correct, correct Even in a note of one dollar, no? We're trusting that.

Why you need work? Well. For what? Because we can cover all the needs. You would have to take away greed. This is a point. So the greed will be and in the moment when exactly as I said on economic dimension, as a distributive

system, as a sovereignty of the people, because this I'm looking for, in the moment when each of them has power, each, not few of them, each. In the moment when the private property is strong and private productive property property is strong, which does mean he has the tools, he has everything in order to each person to produce himself, whatever he wants or to construct whatever he wants. You understand my point. Small and medium enterprise, this is the most important. Romanian entrepreneurs, to be strong, the country will be strong. If we discuss about oligarchs, they are strong. Of course, they destroyed Romanian entrepreneurs because they control the market.

The market is not free. The market is controlled. It's a market controlled by the oligarch system. They control the price. In the moment, they control the price, they destroy the domestic product. So the market, the price of the market have to be free. Free. Free doesn't mean free.

No other things. So it's very easy. So for this reason I said we don't need war if we have all the things which we need. Why do we have to have war? Okay, we can understand what's happened 200 years ago, 300 years ago, 500 years ago. We can understand. 1,000 years ago. Yeah, until years ago, we can understand 1000 years ago Yeah until the moment on all the states They arrived to the point and okay We cannot we can understand the construction of the states But right now in the third millennium

What is the role I ask you of United Nations in this world, in this sense? I left United Nations for this reason, because I know the reason why they built United Nations in 1945 for one simply goal, peace. We don't need any more war. This was the goal. It was not anymore. Until today, there were more than 1,000 wars everywhere. And conflicts. What is the role of United Nations?

From 1945 until today. Tell me what was his role. If the main important role, peace, was not accomplished, does it mean that me, you, as citizen, which already we pay from our budget to a United Nations via our countries, because this is a rule. Each country make a contribution to a United Nations, you, me, everybody. How can reflect our contribution? Zero. Because they installed the wall. the peace, zero. Because they installed the war everywhere.

Where is United Nations tell me in Ukraine today? Or in relationship with Russia? Why United Nations is not in Moscow today? Or in Kiev to discuss all this? Why? Why is not? I think it's pretty clear because they don't want it. Why Washington is not in front of that? Because they want the war. I told you from the beginning this for this reason they canceled the second election with me and the Romanian people because I said peace.

Peace is the main purpose. So we have to be aware and through you and through other leaders like you, who you trust in God to reflect that we are in a very dangerous situation because we have no in Europe particularly, we have no leaders, we have just power holders and puppets as in Romania today, it's a puppet. Of course it's controlled by the whole legal system. He's no leader Leaders are few very few

and They trust in God and they take care about our people. I hope President Trump And very clear to be a leader. I hope to be a leader. I Think a lot of I hope to be a leader. I think a lot of people hope that. I hope to, until the first day. The first minute, not first day. Yeah. When the election resumes,

we have to start from the first round again? We, it's difficult to accept this, almost impossible because new elections are frauds even bigger. We are looking for the second round and we are looking that before 20, I hope, or after 20 in the first day, President Trump to give a wise, wise signal to all world. But besides, we are Romanian people alone with God. So we continue our way like already we start, for our dignity, for sure that.

Well, Mr. Ceaușescu, I really appreciate appreciate you being here and I can tell you're a great human that cares a lot about your people and I just want to tell you that I wish you the best of luck. I very much appreciate the time with you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. No matter where you're watching Sean Ryan show from, if you get anything out of this, please like, comment, subscribe, and most importantly, share this everywhere you possibly

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