Shawn Ryan Show - #18 Robby Starbuck - Congressional Candidate
Episode Date: January 6, 2022Robby Starbuck, a Congressional Candidate representing Tennessee. We cover several topics in a short amount of time to include Critical Race Theory, what he believes to be the biggest internal and ex...ternal threats to the United States, why he left California, issues with big tech, Term Limits, George Soros, and who he would like to see on the 2024 Presidential ticket. Robby Starbuck Links: https://starbuck2022.com https://www.instagram.com/robbystarbuck/ https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website - https://www.shawnryanshow.com Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/VigilanceElite TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnryanshow Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/shawnryan762 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Robbie star book, welcome to the show.
Thank you.
I love how it feels like an interrogation.
You know, kind of like this setup.
It feels like, and I like it.
I like it.
I think that's a good environment to put people under.
Every member running for Congress or in Congress should have to sit through one of these
except they should have to have truth serum before they do it.
I'm totally down for that.
Wouldn't that be great?
I actually said this.
I pitched this to a lot of people actually.
I'm like, if you want to run for public office, what is the excuse for not wanting to answer
questions after taking a truth serum?
Wouldn't that be a good barometer for running for public office?
So like, the people could ask like every question the person just could not lie about it.
So, you reminded me of that.
I would love to do it right here, right?
Yes, I remember. But so you're running for Congress representing Tennessee in 2022.
You called yourself a political refugee from California.
The first time we spoke on the phone and after reading a little bit about you, I know you
have a really successful production company.
And I read that when you came out in 2015 and announced that you were a Republican that
you lost 85, I think it was 85% of your business sounded like pretty much overnight.
And then you said that you thought that was the biggest than that your company would take or biggest head.
And then you endorsed Donald Trump.
And so, and it was,
what was the backlash literally overnight
when you did that?
Yeah, I mean, it goes so far that,
you know what, the business side
my wife and I, we did expect.
To be totally fair, we understood the environment in Hollywood.
We knew it was gonna go that direction.
And it helps so much to have a wife who gets it
and is 100% on the same page and is like on my team.
Because there's a lot of spouses,
I don't think would push you towards doing that.
They would push you towards preserve our wellbeing,
preserve our status, you know, and all those things.
And she didn't care.
I mean, she's from the South.
She's like, you have a duty to do this.
You know, so she understood why it mattered so much to me because of my family's history
and Cuba to do this.
And that helped a lot.
What upset me the most, though, really the only thing it upset me was how my kids and
wife were treated as a result.
You know, that overnight scenario didn't just hurt my business.
It was overnight with my kids too.
People they had grown up with, where they were really good friends, sleepovers and every
birthday and all that stuff, regularly hanging out with each other, full on ghosting by their
parents.
The minute they found out
that we were conservative.
And it was that quick because for them, their immediate reaction was, we have to preserve
our social status.
Because some of these people are celebrities and well-known and stuff and that's what
they want to do.
They're concerned about their social status.
Not, I know these people's hearts.
These are good people.
Their kids and my kids are close friends
have grown up together.
None of that matters.
You know, this is all ideological.
But in another way, as upsetting as that was,
it was also freeing because every part of it,
I think one of the most valuable lessons I learned
was that a lot of people go through life
thinking they have a certain number of friends and they never truly know who their
friends are. I feel like I'm one of the luckiest people because I really found out who my friends
were and it's a lot smaller group than most people think. You know, the people that will show up for
you, that will fight for you, that will stand by you, that'll take the hits.
And I highly recommend it to people
because I would much rather go through life
with that tiny group of people,
who you know you guys ride together.
You will always have their back,
you'll always be there for their family.
If they died God forbid, you would take care of their kid
and make sure their kid got through college, type of thing.
I would much rather have that friend group than have thousands of friends who are never
really your friends because they never got to know who you really are.
You know?
I'm right there with you and I could totally relate to that.
Moving on to California.
So California is like a whole other world that I'm not familiar with, but I hear all about it.
And I kind of just want to pick your brain up.
What was the final straw where you just had it?
You're done.
I'm moving to Tennessee.
I want to be...
You know, it actually was not a specific final straw.
It was more so in my wife and I knew analytically for a very long time We wanted to move to this out there wanted to move to Tennessee. I had worked in Tennessee directing some stuff
And my wife had worked in Tennessee as a songwriter and so we knew we love Tennessee
I mean, and we had always known that and it was kind of like our dream, you know
We're gonna have a farm in Tennessee and we're gonna end up raising our kids there and
So we knew that but some things did develop along the way that confirmed for us that
like you guys are doing the right thing.
And not only the right thing, at this point in our life, I would say that moving to Tennessee
was the single best decision we ever made outside of getting married and having kids.
And you know, it's one of those things where you can almost try to pin it down on one thing,
but it's a lot of different things, but if I had to pin it down, you know, there were
moments like our son.
He was in this Montessori school where there was a mix of ages, but the oldest was about
first grade age.
And there was a meeting at the school
and they told us that this boy would be transitioning
and becoming a girl.
And that you had to call them a certain name
and all that stuff and that they were gonna be wearing girls.
Close.
And.
Did you say first grade?
Yes I did.
And my wife's sitting next to me and she's like,
she's like,
Robby, what are you?
Don't do it.
Don't do it here.
I was like, I have to do it.
And I just, I spoke up and I was like, you know, I'm not to begrudge this, but I dug
a little deeper with it and was essentially like, where did this come from?
You know, like, how did you know that your son wanted to be a girl? You know, and
they said, well, there's a lot of different things, but him and his friend, you know, came
in the room and it's these two moms are best friends, keep in mind that are in this class
of like, they came in the room, they're wearing dresses and they're so happy, you know, and
we just knew. And I was like, well, what were you guys doing though?
And it turns out they were watching Rupal's Drag Race.
And so in my mind immediately, I'm like,
connecting the dots.
I'm like, obviously these kids saw mom's give attention
to this, we're gonna go dress up as this.
We come in, we get attention, we give all of it.
So then the mom's do that.
But it was a short time later, our son,
because he was leaving at the end of that quarter,
we had had enough with all this.
And he saw the boy crying, and our son's very empathetic,
and he tried to go up to the boy
and essentially say like,
hey, are you okay, type thing?
And he was crying because he said he didn't want to wear
the clothes that his mom made him.
And it just confirmed the pathology of all of this,
of what's happening there.
It's like this psychosis that's infected everything.
And they've, I mean, I see this as blatant child abuse,
and it's, it doesn't stop there.
I think what people don't understand
is this isn't just infecting those very frontal things.
You see, it's infecting everything.
And so everything about growing up in a place like that
is poison. It's just toxicity
all the time. Our oldest daughter, the school didn't notify us at a different school. They didn't
notify us that we're going to have a white privilege teacher come in and tell all the kids that
they're white privileged and that you can't sit at lunch without a minority present anymore because
it makes minorities not feel included. And my daughter came home and she's like, I don't really know what to make this
whole thing and she explains to me and I was like, well, you should ask them next time
what they think you are. And she was like, what do you mean? And I was like, just ask
them. Ask them what they think you are. And you can teach them a lesson. You have the
power to teach them a lesson because they're going to say, you're white and you can
actually let them know that your family's Cuban and you actually have African in you and you have all these
other things and that they need to learn that they're the ones creating the problem.
They're the ones teaching kids to identify each other by their skin color instead of their
character and their reality.
And I find that whole thing so toxic.
They're teaching kids to identify each other as oppressors or oppressed.
There's nothing more dangerous than that because what you're doing, I mean, they're
creating racial hierarchies and we're going to see the effects of that for a long time.
And what's really sad about it is it's entirely divorced from the original civil rights struggle.
You know, it's entirely divorced from the ideas of Martin Luther King. Entirely. And so in a weird way, we've sort of become the champions, you know, I know we're
gonna talk about critical race there. We've become the champions for Martin Luther King's dream
of seeing each other by a character instead of the color of each other's skin. But it's
totality of all those things, seeing that poison everywhere. How long has this been going on?
You know what's interesting? This actually happened. I would pinpoint it to a period of time, there's things, seeing that poison everywhere. How long has this been going on?
You know what's interesting?
This actually happened.
I would pinpoint it to a period of time
a lot of people wouldn't think of.
And it was about, I'd say, I want to, and I'd be,
I may be off by a couple of years here.
I want to say it was about 14 years ago.
California started what was a rural health care initiative
attaching health care initiative attaching health
care to education.
And that was the beginning of the end of parents having a say in the education system.
And essentially once academia took over a parental role, it changed everything.
Because I would identify public schools in California as essentially taking on a parent
role.
And they've completely obliterated parental rights.
I just saw a video that other day, parents in California,
county where they had actually been told by their daughter that the school
had helped her transition into a boy without ever telling the parents.
They were all calling her by a different name and a different pronoun and all this stuff.
Parents had no clue until she had told them much later beyond they had already been giving
her counseling and all this stuff during school hours that the parents had no clue about.
And that's the role these schools are eking into because something that sounded nice in
the beginning to people, oh we're going to help people who don't have access to health
care.
Your average person hears that and they think nothing of it, but the reality is it was an
opening to taking on parental rights.
And that took on a whole different struggle in its own because it's given them a license
essentially to say, we can teach these kids anything, we know what's best for them, not
their parents.
And that's something we should see is equally dangerous in our own state because our own
secretary of education here, she's actually pushing a rural health care initiative right now.
This was also an access point for getting abortion into schools in California.
Because that created that parent, or I'm sorry, the Dr. Patient Confidentiality and all that,
that they're treating as mature minors in California, well, we have a mature minor law in Tennessee as well.
This is essentially after 12,
minors can be mature enough
to make their own medical decisions
without their parents knowing.
This is another thing I believe we have to get off the books
because I think if you want to fix our problems
in this country, a lot of them can be brought back
to cultural problems.
And if you want to fix our culture,
you have to fix our families.
And, you know, when you look at our culture, you have to fix our families. And you know,
when you look at strong countries, they have strong families, they have strong identities.
We don't have one anymore. We don't have strong families, we don't have a strong identity.
But we do have permissiveness over time that's continued and gotten worse that breaks apart the
family that's permissiveness towards child rights, which is going to lead into a whole other area.
I guarantee you, this is going to end. You see right now that UN is already calling for child sexual rights.
It's going to continue into a place where they normalize pedophilia even.
And you see this in the sexual health programs that they're launching in Africa,
their CSE programs that essentially are even teaching them that if you're HIV positive, you don't
have a duty to tell your partner.
Okay.
So this stuff goes way further, but it starts at that permissiveness of taking away parental
rights.
How many people do you think are becoming more and more aware of this?
Does this all fall under the critical race?
I mean, more people are waking up every day,
but to give you an idea, for my wife and I,
it's interesting because we had talked about this issue,
started talking about it about six to seven years ago.
And a lot of people come up to us now and are like,
oh, thank you for talking to me.
We've been talking about it.
It's a long time period of waking people up, you know?
And it is interesting in California,
we had some soft liberal friends, I'll call them,
because they actually did believe in liberalism.
I don't generally call people on the left liberal
because they're not very liberal anymore.
But these types of people were,
they're like the soft liberals that believe in free speech,
they believe in all that stuff, but they voted Democrat.
Okay.
At the time when we warned them about CSE in the schools,
coming into the schools in California,
and we warned them about critical race theory
and all those things, they treated us like we were insane.
They would never do this stuff.
They would never teach that stuff in school.
Okay.
I have gotten calls from every single one of our former acquaintances
or former friends who said that stuff apologizing.
Every single one has been affected by critical race theory or CSE now in their kids' schools.
And so more people are waking up, but it's a continued effort.
This isn't going to stop until we make it stop.
You know, until this gets banned, and you know, the other thing too, that people have to
keep in mind, corporate America has a responsibility here.
A lot of people don't know this about a place like Cuba,
and there's a reason we don't teach about communism in school.
And that reason is if people really knew
how communism came to be and how it worked,
it would never be a discussion.
We wouldn't have socialists of America,
democratic socialists of America,
and none of this stuff would exist, okay?
Because what people miss is the only way Castro got
to power was corporations helped him, okay?
Almost nobody knows that in America
that the corporations were behind him.
Well, who's behind the left wing,
woke ideologies, pushing all this stuff?
Who's behind doing a commercial?
We're seeing a kiss as a guy.
You know, did you see that commercial?
It's a recent commercial.
And it's not even an attack on people who are gay.
It's just like this is a cultural identity thing.
Santa is never culturally been identified as a gay man.
I have gay Republican friends who are like this ad is horrible.
It's horrific for kids that that's not the idea
they have of Santa.
You know?
And all of this stuff, though,
until we, as a group collectively,
say we've had enough of the corporations
doing this and pushing this,
and we're not gonna give companies
who hate us our money anymore,
it won't change the way it needs to.
But I do think we're on the path there.
But people have to recognize that these corporations do have a large part to play in this.
Because they have essentially chosen the side.
Because they think it's safer to be lined up to become oligarchs than they do to actually
have to fight with each other in a free market.
Because let me give you an example.
In a true free system, Twitter, Facebook, and Google,
and Amazon have to all compete with each other
on multiple fronts.
And in the end, if you look out 100 years from now,
theoretically, one or two of them should no longer exist.
But under a system like this, Marxist technocracy
that they're trying to build and that they've all
essentially aligned themselves to. They all can have their peace and everybody survives
and they all get the importance, the status, the power, you know, that's what
matters to them. So they've chosen that side for a reason because their survival,
it works under that. They can do it. As long as the ruling party is on their side, they're going to survive, they're going to
eat well, it doesn't really matter what happens to the rest of us.
Same idea that they had in places like Cuba when this happened.
And same thing happened in place like Venezuela.
The corporations were largely behind chaves, and now, you know, with Maduro, because it's
later on, they're not so much, you know, on the same page,
but they were in the beginning.
Yeah.
Before we move into kind of the big text of critical race theory,
I saw a video you did on it,
or a speech that you did on it on your YouTube channel.
And you talked about where it came from,
who kind of developed it.
Can you go into a little bit of that?
Yeah.
So, you know, there's a few chief architects.
I think one of the most important to point out
is the one who's most prominent right now,
and that'd be Ebrum Kendi,
because Kendi's pushing this
throughout every segment of culture.
He's got a multi-million dollar Netflix deal.
He's at every university.
And to give you an idea of,
I mean, I think I kind of already explained
for those who don't know critical race theories essentially putting these kids in those buckets of you're oppressed or you're an idea of, I mean, I think I kind of already explained for those who don't know critical race theories
essentially putting these kids in those buckets of your oppressed or your an oppressor and that's that and here's the reasons why and then the kids then see each other that way.
Okay. It's not just race though, right?
It's not. It's not just race. So this is intrinsically tied to economic systems and the political system. So throughout, you know, the stuff we saw last year,
the riots and all that, that were very racial.
Ebrum had this book, just all over the country.
I mean, it was a number one seller and it was in a lot of suburbia
and it's called How to Be an Anti-Racist.
Okay.
In the book, it explicitly says, and I think this is the line
that should be attached to critical race theory forever
It says you cannot be an anti-racist unless you are an anti-capitalist
Okay, so that assigns a political system to that racial hierarchy and says that you can never not be racist
unless you oppose capitalism
And that's what suburbia was taking in that That book is now pushed in every segment of academia and
our high schools and colleges in every
popular book club across America. It's
you know, you go into Barnes and Noble
and you go into racial justice or
something like that. If a kid is so
inclined to read about civil rights or
whatever, that book is what's going to
be on the front. That's what's going to
be pushed on them. And those ideas when
you're
most impressionable, let's say in college, they know the social dynamic college is like
a really interesting case study because it's in a lot of ways designed similarly to a cult.
You know, and I think that it is helping create this new identity for young people where
we're seeing, you know, obviously the numbers of people who are attaching themselves to fringe ideologies are higher than they've ever been.
And that has to do with the fact that they're being put in these social boxes that pressure them into accepting these ideas as normal.
And that's a big part of the problem here.
Why are they saying, what does being a capitalist have to do with being
So their argument essentially is that capitalism is intrinsically
built to benefit white people and that unless you're
opposing it, you know, you're opposing the struggle for equality or equity actually is the term By the way, if you ever hear the term equity run, run for the hills run as far as you can, equity is one of the key words. So say you're a kid, you know, here's
another problem. A lot of parents send their kids to private schools and they think I'm sending
my kid to private schools, so they're not going to be here with these issues. We'll wake
up call. Look and see if your private school has a new DEI person working for the school,
diversity, equity, inclusion, okay. If they do, run for the hills.
Your school is now taken over by Marxist.
That's the only way you get a DEI person in.
And sadly, when they started putting in DEI people, there were a lot of good people, good
hearted people who see it, and they say, well, I want my school to be inclusive.
I want my school to be diverse.
I'm not opposed to those things.
I'm a good person.
And they don't see it's a front for these ideologies that oppose capitalism.
It's a front for these ideologies that want to pit us into racial groups and want to make
us hate each other.
That's what it really is about.
They want racial tension.
They want racial struggle.
They don't want us, the most dangerous thing for them is us all getting along.
That is the single most dangerous thing to the elite in the world, to the globalists in the world,
is all of us looking past our skin color
and getting along and working together
towards a movement that would serve the people.
That's the most dangerous thing for them.
Yeah.
Well, where did this, where is this coming from
and what's the end goal?
Is it the government or is it Soros?
Power.
Globalist.
Power.
It's all about power.
It's about power and control.
This is ultimately the struggle of humanity
from the beginning of time.
Everything's about power and control.
Everything always has been.
I think that even if you're fighting for good, it ultimately still
is about power and control, even if you're fighting for, let's say, God's mission, okay? Because I
really feel like I would not be running for Congress if I didn't feel like I was called by God to do
this because I don't want to. And I think honestly, if you wake up in life and you're like, your whole
life dream is to run for Congress and have power over people, you're probably a little bit of a sociopath.
That was not my life dream.
It was like, it was more of a,
like, we have to do this.
You know, even if you're of that mindset,
the truth is it's about power and control
for different reasons.
It's about power and control for the people for me.
I want people to be in control again.
Our founders wanted that power in control.
They didn't want the king to have that power in control.
They wanted the people to.
And so ultimately it all goes back to those things.
The reality is though, is a certain subset of people
understand they can only get that power in control
through means that are going to hurt normal people.
You know, because they fundamentally do disagree with us on a number of things, and we can't get past that.
And so when they build that out, they say, okay, well these are broadly popular things, though.
So how do we get people there?
Well, you have to create chaos.
That's a hallmark of let's say, Soros.
Everything Soros does is about creating chaos, because he makes money from devaluing currencies.
Okay?
To devalued currencies. Okay?
To devalue currencies, you have to create chaos within the country.
And then beyond that, if you want power, you want to elect people in those countries that
would normally not be electable, you have to create chaos with the people who would be
electable, which is what they did over these past few years.
To change the identity of a country, you have to go
even more local and smaller than that.
So that's where Soros got the plan to go and invest in DA races.
These district attorney races, by the way, in the past, were five figure races.
They were not these huge events.
They were maybe $30,000 or $50,000 for a campaign budget or something, maybe $100,000.
Soros is dropping millions into these races and electing absolute radicals.
You know, the people, ironically, the most famous prosecutors in our country are pretty
much all soros prosecutors, okay?
Kim Fox in Chicago, she was responsible for not prosecuting Jesse Smollett, okay, and
they had to name an independent prosecutor.
She was also in collusion with people like Kamala Harris and Michelle Obama talking to
them about what a great person just is and ultimately refused to prosecute for political
reasons.
Thank God we got somebody in there who ended up independently prosecuting the case and
proving what he did was done to create racial tension.
It was done again to create that racial strife that they want, they want the chaos.
Yeah.
You know, and then you look at a place like St. Louis,
Gardner, that's another Soros DA.
She charged the McCloskey family
who protected their home when their home was assaulted
by rioters.
Yeah.
And she charged them.
You look at places like Larry Crazner,
and Philadelphia, all these places in the country,
common-themed chaos, the looting,
the laws saying we don't prosecute people
who shoplift under $950.
We don't, basically essentially,
we don't actually prosecute illegal things anymore.
Releasing people even child molesters
from prison during COVID,
under the auspices that this is about health.
We have to free these people because it's so dangerous.
Like, I'm sorry.
Anybody have a sound mind in America, if you said,
hey, are you worried about a child molester
in prison possibly getting COVID?
If there's anybody in the world who's saying yes
to that question, I have questions for them, you know,
because you're not of sound mind.
Somebody of sound mind would not be worried about that.
Yeah.
I was watching another interview and it also just to reiterate on the DA's that Soros is
funding.
It seemed like all of them, and there was a ton of cities listed.
I think you were on Tucker and that's where they were talking about it.
All of these cities where these DA's are becoming elected, they're beating the prior murder record.
Oh, so, okay.
This is a number everybody in America should know.
Everybody, okay?
Past 12 months, murders have risen by 30%.
Okay?
If you're not familiar with crime statistics,
you might go, that doesn't seem wild, right?
I mean, it seems like semi.
The next closest is 12.7% for a 12-month period in history.
And that was the year Martin Luther King Jr. was killed.
Wow.
And so a large segment of that unrest and the added murders
and everything was apparently, you know,
a lot of historians have associated it to the unrest
that happened because of his assassination.
Which obviously is a huge cultural moment,
but that divide between 12.7% and a 30% rise that is massive.
And what you would expect is normally during a crime rise,
if it's associated to a significant singular event,
is that it would shoot up and then shoot down.
That's not what's happening.
It's going up and up and up and up.
It's still rising right now.
Yeah. And this is not just happening in big cities. This is bleeding out to the places outside of the big cities. And I do think that, you know, some people have asked me, what do you think the
big issues of 2022 are going to be when you get near election day? I think crime is one of the
top three. I think that the economy and freedom, generally, when it comes to things like mandates
and things along those lines, and then crime,
are the three big issues.
Those are the three that are gonna drive people to get there.
Critical race theory is, and education is right there.
It's like if you had to do a 1A1B thing.
But those are the issues that are gonna drive people out.
Well, moving into that, I got another question for you.
And there's just so much going on in the country that's
going to fundamentally change just everyday life,
especially for our kids.
And everything from open borders, critical race theory,
no term limits on politicians, which
has been the rise in crime.
There's just all these things,
the freedom, COVID vaccine mandates, everything.
What do you think that the biggest threat is
to the United States inside of its borders is
to include the Southern border?
The Democratic Party.
The Democratic Party is a Democratic Party is a whole.
As a whole.
Not necessarily its voters, because there are some good people who vote Democrat that just
are, they don't understand the reality of where the party is going.
In total all the things you described, those are all because of the existence of the current
far left Democratic Party.
They're no longer a liberal party.
Try to drive that home to people all the time.
And if you don't believe me, look up the word liberal.
And you're going to quickly find out it does not describe them.
They are not liberal.
These are left-wing authoritarian fascists.
They want total control over our lives, over everything.
And unless they get that, they will keep pushing and pushing.
And even once they get it, they won't be satisfied.
Communists are never satisfied, Marxists are never satisfied.
The authorians are never satisfied.
Because they're always looking over their shoulder.
They're always trying to figure out, because they stepped on so many people along the way to get there.
Who's coming for me?
I have to get more control, more authority.
And that's what'll continue as a product
of what they're doing now.
So that's the most dangerous internally.
And I don't see that changing
unless the American people send a message
in the following couple of elections
to make it very clear that America is not going to be
and does not want to be a socialist or a communist country.
Yeah.
Do you think that that's possible?
Yes.
Because Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, Netflix, those are all,
I mean, that's what people see.
Yeah.
The news now.
There's going to be working against us.
Absolutely. No question. And it's about their survival again, people see the news now. They're going to be working against us, absolutely.
No question.
And it's about their survival again,
because they know that if we take the majority
and a group of people like me, our lawmakers,
they are not going to end up in a good position.
I don't wanna do hearings.
We've had enough hearings.
Americans are sick of hearings. They want
action. They want somebody who's willing to go in there and just absolutely do whatever's
necessary to get the job done. And these companies, you know, we talked about capitalism earlier
and what's interesting is a lot of people who kind of, they don't know a lot about politics,
but they become soft socialists as young, you know, high school college age.
A lot of it's predicated off of stories they hear about Amazon actually, where they go
like, Amazon's such a horrible company.
Look how they treat their workers.
Yeah, Amazon is a horrible company.
They treat their workers like dirt.
These guys are in their trucks like 20 hours a day, men and women, and are literally
peeing in bottles,
you know, to get their job done.
Their hard workers, absolute,
but Amazon is abusing them.
No doubt.
But how did Amazon get here?
How did Amazon get the power that they have?
Because it actually was not capitalism.
It was a perversion of capitalism.
Capitalism in its purest sense
would have never allowed something like Amazon to exist
because in a capitalist market
You need to turn a profit
Within a certain time period or you're just not gonna survive
Amazon had a totally different approach to it. They said look if we run a loss for X amount of years
We're gonna be able to gain X market share if we have this giant market share as a result of that loss
market share. If we have this giant market share as a result of that loss, but power because they were able to grow as they do this, we're going to be able to kill enough small businesses
along the way where we'll have no competition. Okay. This whole strategy violates every
anti-competitive law in America, every anti-trust law in America, but nobody at the Department
of Justice ever went after them. That's a reason why when you hear Amazon didn't pay their taxes.
They didn't pay their taxes because they ran into loss on purpose for so long.
This is all by design.
And so a company like that theoretically and capitalism should not exist
because they went beyond the scope of pure capitalism
and they went to essentially what I would describe as fraud.
It's a crime.
It's a too late to break that up. It's not too late up. You can still do it. You can still do it right now.
You'll still be able to for the next 10 years. And so we need to have the people in there who are willing to do what is necessary to do that.
And, you know, so the question about can we do this? Are we going to have a chance of winning to the degree we need to be able to do that?
This is why powerful people hate the internet so much and why you see such a push to censor the internet
because we do have a chance and it's because of open access on the internet and while big tech is trying to censor us,
they've done it to me, they've suspended me, they've done all types of things,
they just can't quite shut us up. censor us, they've done it to me, they've suspended me, they've done all types of things, they
just can't quite shut us up.
You know, there's all these other avenues online opening up and you may lose access to a certain
group of people, but in general, we are able to reach enough people still to be able to
win these elections.
That's with all, think about this, with all of the rigging that they've done, with all
of the algorithms and the exposure to information, the powers that be want people to see, the
choosing of what narrative you'll see, every news channel aside from two, in existence,
parroting their lines, their narrative.
Still, we're not just competitive, but we want an election
Recently for president, okay? Yeah, that's with Google having the ability by itself just Google
A flipping millions of votes on their own just through their search results that they show people
That by itself should tell people everything our ideas are broadly popular with people and if given equal footing
We will dominate we will dominate in every facet. I think a lot of people lose faith because they don't see they lose faith in
Conservatives because they don't they it's it's hard to find
information yeah, and
It's hard to find information. Yeah.
And they need another avenue immediately.
Absolutely, and I think that's a real problem.
You know, I'm excited to see what truth social does,
because, you know, Trump being behind it
will add a gravity in terms of the number of users
who sign up, I think.
And I think it will lead to some people
who hate Trump signing up too,
because they just want to see what's going on,
which builds you a number of people necessary
to make it a real competitor.
And I think that that is going to be a positive
for the marketplace of ideas,
because suddenly the big tech companies
are going to have to face the fact
that they're not in collusion
with this other option people have.
Because right now it's fairly easy for them.
Facebook and Twitter, they work in conjunction with each other on banning people on a regular
basis in YouTube, you know, as part of Google.
They do it all together.
So you know, it's happened to a number of people I know where one day they wake up, they're
banned by Twitter, and a couple hours later, they're banned by Instagram, a couple hours later,
their YouTube shut down.
And they all worked together.
But now that they have this outside competitor,
and they're working with Rumble,
so Rumble and Truth Social will have their own different,
deal, if they build this out the right way,
and the servers and everything,
there's not issues in the beginning,
which is something that they need to make a priority
is make sure everything is just running beautifully.
They have a real chance to create a real competitor because once you're not able to collude with a company,
you don't know what's coming and you also have to start questioning your own actions.
Hey, are we going to lose our market share on advertising because of the decision we're about to make?
They have to think those things through and suddenly the companies that are all in collusion together
have to start thinking independently of themselves, too.
Because suddenly, they all have to worry about an outside competitor.
So I'm excited to see what truth social does,
but I do think that to really fix this problem,
we do need an internet bill of rights for the people.
And that's something I'm going to be releasing soon,
which is a new contract for America.
That essentially is a list of our promise
to the American people about the priorities that we'll have.
And one of those is an internet bill of rights
that guarantees our ability to exercise free speech
in the public square and recognizes
that the public square is now places on social media.
And that public square is an necessity not just for your liberties to be exercised, but
also for your livelihood.
I know a lot of people who, you know, in wildfires, they didn't go to the news for information.
They went to Twitter.
They went to Facebook because they had quicker access to information that they needed
life-saving information.
For let's say like, I actually know somebody that's happened to where their horses needed to be saved in a wildfire
and they weren't there.
They used social media to be able to get a stranger.
They didn't know to save their horses.
Okay.
That ability of connectivity, I feel like is something
that it has a practice and purpose beyond just access
for your free speech, but also your access
to public safety information.
Because LA Fire Department or Nashville PD, they're giving information faster many times
on social media than they are through traditional news.
So once a company bans somebody from their ability to access that, they're now affecting
the ability to get public information.
That's a damn good point.
And so all of those things need to be fixed too. That's a damn good point. And so all of those things need to be fixed too.
That's a damn good point.
Didn't Apple just shut down?
Didn't Apple come out and say that they're not
going to host the app for truth?
I don't know about that.
I haven't heard that, but if they do say that,
they're going to have major legal issues.
And that will end up in truth social favor,
because it's very clear cut law
on anti-competitive behavior.
And because they run an app store
that is exclusive to their phone
and they don't allow their phones
to download a secondary app store,
it's what the law is already defined
as anti-competitive behavior.
And so it'll just take some time
but it'll end up at the Supreme Court
and it'll very quickly end up in truth favors
or truth socials favor.
Okay.
Moving on, external threats to the U.S.
So we have China, we just pulled out of Afghanistan
and gave Taliban complete power.
Taiwan's, you know,
on the Crescent disaster.
Exactly. Ukraine, Russia, you know, on the precipice of disaster.
Exactly. Ukraine, Russia, the border, and all the cartel stuff that's going on down there
that are coming across. What do you think that the biggest external threat to the U.S.
is right now?
It's China no question, but I will mention one thing for people. To recognize our own
failures on foreign policy, it took us for presidents, trillions of
dollars, and millions of lives affected for us to take Afghanistan from being under control
of the Taliban to being under control of the Taliban.
We have no business in these countries and how many young men did we send to die?
A lot.
Wait too many, one was too many. We have no business there.
Culturally, the fact that our political class couldn't identify that this was a place
where they did not want to be a democracy like ours. They did not want freedom like ours.
It says a lot about their ability to make good decisions. And it's why I think we need normal
people in office again, because we're not
divorced from these realities. These are about things of, you know, sort of political
correctness. The people in DC don't want to admit that the culture in Afghanistan is very
different from the culture in the US. They don't want to admit that the way that they treat
their women is very different than we are here. They don't want to admit the permissiveness
of pedophilia in a place like Afghanistan.
Mm-hmm.
You know,
I don't think we ever should have been there at all.
I think we should have stayed out of it.
I was always on the train of Rand Paul and Ron Paul.
We had no business there and we had to protect our people.
What we should have done is send in our people
to kill the people responsible for anything
that happened in the US.
Targeted teams, not democracy-making,
not nation-building.
So, we have a responsibility to protect our people, safety of our country, absolutely.
But you know, we can do that much more effectively with really strong well-trained teams of our
very best people.
We didn't do that.
We went there to nation-build.
We went there for a myriad of economic reasons,
for control reasons, for power reasons,
and for flexing reasons.
And in the end, we ended up embarrassing ourselves
as a country.
We lost that veneer of strength that we had for so long.
We had a veneer of strength.
Nobody wants to mess with America.
And we lost it entirely through what we did there.
You don't think we maybe we should have kept
a couple of bases open because of China?
Well, so once we were there, yes.
Now that we're there, calculus changes,
we need to keep agron, I think is a big one.
We needed to keep that.
It was strategic base.
It kept a lot of things at bay,
because China is essentially in control
of Afghanistan,
though. And that is going to be a channel for them to take control of other parts of
the world. They're also in control of all of Africa, essentially. You know, this is going
to turn into a major issue, and it's wise to China's number one, because China doesn't
hide from the fact that their goal is domination, including of the United States of America.
They don't hide it. They have a hundred-year plan, they're dedicated to it, they're astute,
they're smart, they're stronger year over year, they're ruthless.
This is a group of people that are, you know, essentially at the very least, if I was giving
them a compliment, it would be that they're nationalist in a certain sense that they believe in the Chinese well-being of their country
and their party above all else.
Not so much their people, but of their country and their party.
And that results in them being willing to do whatever is necessary for that.
And so in that respect in terms of, you know, if you're looking at it like a war, you
know, they're
dedicated to doing whatever's necessary.
They're not worried about what's going to be popular in the news.
You know, recently there was a story where China essentially said that they're cracking
down on the feminization of men.
Okay?
In the US people were like, that's so bad, that's so mean.
And they're like, no, we identify that in the military, We're going to have a problem if we don't do that.
In the US now, instead, we're saying, how do we be more inclusive?
Let's change our entry standards.
Let's change our training standards so we can be more inclusive of more feminized males.
You know, where do we think that's going in 20 years?
You know, not good places. It's not going good places.
And it's like some people don't want to talk about this because they're like, oh, I'm
going to sound mean or I'm going to say, there's nothing mean about the reality of war,
except for the reality of war. Like, if you don't talk about it, what's going to be mean
is what happens in 20 years. Yeah. I don't think there's going to be another ground war.
But I pray you're right. I pray you're right. I pray ground war, but I pray you're going to be a lot
of tech.
I pray even just from the time when I was at war to the end of my career, that tech has
completely, they've taken over so much of every aspect of what goes on and more, and it's
just advancing it.
Well, this is the frustration actually, had when we were at war, is that we had a lot
of technology we didn't use, that we didn't empower our soldiers with, that we didn't
give them to protect themselves.
There's so many people who died unnecessarily because they weren't given the technology,
despite the mass trillions of dollars that we were spending, that money wasn't always protecting our soldiers.
That wasn't the priority.
That's true.
You know.
And that'll always bother me.
But I pray you're right about a ground war
because if anybody would be willing to go to a ground war,
it's China.
Russia on the flip side, you know,
I'm not as concerned about Russia long term.
Their economy is nowhere near China's.
Their actual global power is nowhere near that.
In fact, I think we do Russia a favor by treating them
the way that we treat them.
We treat them beyond the power that we should.
We treat them as if they have power that they don't,
that they really don't in reality.
If you look at their stretch,
I mean, they're a big country, most of it's ice.
And people never recognize that.
Like this is not a gigantic place.
California has a higher GDP.
It's interesting from that standpoint
that we give them the power that we do.
Now in terms of threats, I think we have to be realistic
and look at, Russia is also threatened by some things we do. Now in terms of threats, I think we have to be realistic and look at, Russia is also threatened by some things we do.
If we put ships out in the Black Sea, we have to imagine
how would we feel if Russia was putting ships outside of Florida.
Yeah.
So the fact that they are in that tip for tap for us
shouldn't be surprising to people
I mean we're doing something that if it was it was being done to us we would be upset about
um
And so from that aspect I'm not really so much worried about them
I think that that there's somebody we have to keep an eye on but China is the one we have to worry about in your opinion
What do we do if China takes Taiwan?
Do we step in? I think that we have a duty to step in,
but I don't, you know, it's so weird,
because a president really defines a lot of what we should do.
And with Joe Biden in office,
I'm afraid of us doing something,
because we're gonna do it poorly,
we're gonna be weak, and we're gonna get dominated.
And it's gonna expose our weaknesses even further.
I feel like Taiwan is quickly becoming like the Israel.
Yeah.
If Trump was president, I'd have no question about
what we had to do.
Because the strength and the unpredictability
adds so many things to us.
You know, Millie wouldn't be there
if Trump was president right now.
Millie would be gone.
And so Millie is another person I worry about because that's a man who's not interested
in winning awards, a man who's interested in power and interested in being socially accepted.
And that's the wrong place to be leading an army, leading soldiers.
So I'm worried about that, but I do think that
with the right circumstances, we do have a duty
because Taiwan is an independent people,
and it's sort of like, you know, if we really mean it,
a lot of people say never again, okay, with the Holocaust.
If you mean that, you need to recognize that China
is doing that right now. They have
concentration camps of the Uighurs. Their incursion into Taiwan would be essentially creating
concentration camps of no question of Taiwanese people who resisted and who just want their
freedom. So we do have to ask that question, there's a difference between a country changing fundamentally because of elections.
If you elect a communist leadership group,
it's a very different prospect than China and Vades
and forces you to lose your freedom.
And if that was being done to us or to our friends
that we're really close with, we would fight for them
because we would want them to fight for us. And so we do have
to do something, I just fear it happening under Biden. And I think it's the perfect circumstance
for China to go after Taiwan is with Biden as president, and they know that. So I think
they, if I was a betting man, I would bet on them going and invading Taiwan at some point
while he's president. Yeah, I'll bet you're right. I hope to God that doesn't happen.
Me too.
So I want to start wrapping things up, but a 2024 presidential run by Trump.
Is that what's best for the United States?
Yes, 100%.
100%.
100% that's what's best.
Trump has unfinished business.
He has a great team of people that,
you know, I believe that term would be the most effective term of a president in history,
because the team that he has assembled now that was ready to go in for a second term are people
who are there to get the job done. They're not there to sell books or any of that, you know,
all the glitz and glamour
of, you know, that political world. These are, these are doers. These are people who are
ideological warriors and are there for the right reasons. So I do think it's what's best.
Also if you talk about it just from political standpoint, politically if it's anybody aside
from Trump and Trump is also running, you're talking about us fighting a war
within our own party then,
instead of fighting a common enemy,
whereas Trump has the base, he has the rallies,
he has the crowds, he has the energy,
he also has regret, you know,
the regret of the people who wish they had voted for him now
when they fill up the gas in their cars.
The people who are like, you know what,
the mean tweets were not so bad.
You know, they're like, I'll take the mean tweets again.
The reality is, I think some people are learning too.
Sometimes things they didn't like were useful, like those mean tweets.
Because you look at oil, if you're mad when your gas tank is two times more than a
well's last year, you got to think about those mean tweets.
Because who controls
gas prices, OPEC does.
They control oil.
OPEC was afraid of Trump.
Trump tweeted at them, did mean tweets at them, scared the leadership of OPEC, and OPEC
ultimately was like, this dude's crazy.
We don't know what he's going to do.
We're not touching it.
We're not touching it.
We're not going after him and piss him off.
That is a good thing.
That resulted in good things for you.
It gave you that $2 gas, you know?
So you may not like it in a country club,
but in reality, it was effective and got the job done, okay?
So there's a lot of people who are recognizing
things that they thought they didn't like are not so bad now.
You know, and they're like,
actually I would be a lot happier
with Trump as president right now.
You know, not only can he actually put together
a coherent thought, he can read a teleprompter
unlike our current president,
but he can actually ignite respect from world leaders
in a way that Biden's not able to.
If he doesn't run, who would you like to see on that ballot?
DeSantis.
DeSantis and...
As his vice president,
I would say actually I'm gonna go with an outside
the box pick here.
I would love to see Candice Owens as VP
in either a second Trump term or a DeSantis term
because she's outside the box, she's fierce,
she breaks a lot of the Democrats leading arguments
against our party.
She puts up with no BS and she knows her stuff.
She knows policy, she knows numbers.
She is somebody no Democrat wants to debate.
And I feel like she would be a strong face for the party and a strong wingman for a strong
president and eventually maybe a president herself.
Do you think she would be open to that?
I do, I think she would be.
I mean, I'm not speaking for her.
I am friends with her.
I've never talked to her about this.
So I don't want anybody to think that
who we're like, I know Robbie and her friends.
I've never talked to her about this,
but it's something that I've thought for a long time
that, you know, I think that she would be.
Yeah. That's an interesting pick.
Yeah. Very outside the interesting pick. Yeah.
Very outside the box.
Yeah.
If it wasn't her though, then I think you have to look at, I think you've got to look
outside the political class.
I think you do have to look at an outsider because I think people are sick of politicians.
Yeah, I do too.
I did forget one question before we do wrap up.
I think one of the biggest threats that we face inside the US is career politicians.
So are you for term limits?
Absolutely.
How are we going to get term limits?
You have to have a constitutional convention because the Supreme Court made it very clear
that we can't do it just by simply legislating.
You have to have a constitutional convention and actually make this a part of our constitution.
But I'm 100% a believer in them.
I think that this is at the core of a lot of our problems
in America, that we have a class of people
that are divorced from reality of everyday people.
And they're essentially just a DC bubble.
They do whatever and the DC bubble is popular and wanted,
and they don't really care enough about what's happening in the country,
or about preserving our country.
So I 100% agree with you.
I think we need term limits.
And one way I've thought about it
because there's one way to do it where,
if you did that convention and you made it possible,
then Congress would have to pass a law after that saying,
this is how it works.
And in that sort of scenario,
you would still have a lot of trouble
getting people to agree to it.
But I think the one way you could make it happen
is by grandfathering people.
So you'd say, look, if you're in Congress now,
you're grandfathered from this.
But starting the next person after you, there's term limits.
Because unfortunately, their own personal interests
are going to outweigh that belief that we need term limits.
But the minute you say, don't worry, you're okay.
You can stay as long as you want.
They'll be okay.
Well, at least we get it started.
At least we get that started in the interim.
But I think that those are the ways
that we can realistically get there.
It's gonna take time, though.
That's a great, I didn't think of that.
I think that might actually work.
Yeah.
I hope it does.
I hope so too.
Damn.
But, well, what's next for you?
We're running this race.
So, you know, just building up support
and doing everything that's necessary to win, you know.
It's, a lot of people don't realize.
It's a lot of work to run for Congress.
It really is.
Like, I am out there all over the place every day.
There's a lot of driving involved.
I have to go to DC too, because there's a DC primary
at the same time that there's a primary here,
where you have to win over certain people in DC
so that they'll do what's necessary to support you there
or to keep other people out of your race
from messing with you, you know, type thing.
So there's all that you gotta run with too,
but you also have to really get in touch with the people.
Name ID is the biggest thing in any political race.
So you have to be all over the place and make sure that you're meeting people.
They know your name, they know what you're doing, and they know where your heart is.
It's not as easy as it sounds.
It's a lot of work.
And fundraising is big, so fundraising is a huge thing for us because we're fighting not
just the Democratic Party, not just the Democratic Socialists
of America, not just the Communists, but we're also fighting the establishment class in
the U.S.
the Mitt Romney corporate rateer ask rhinos.
And to do that, that means there's a lot of money against us.
And I'm also turning down money from all these woke corporation packs who try to buy your votes
by giving you money.
So because I'm doing that, my campaign's fully funded by the people.
And so we're pushing in-person fundraisers' events and things along those lines
and raising money online because I want to be accountable to people.
And I think that is the future of politics is we need to recreate that message
that we are accountable to our voters, not to Walmart, not to Amazon, you know,
not to any of these entities, but to the people in the actual district that we're supposed
to represent.
So that's the big thing for us.
It's just every day you build, you build, you build.
I watched this thing recently that talked about how important practice is, and it was like
the problem in a lot of people's mindsets is that they look at practice a specific way
where they get to practice if we think of it
as a sports analogy, they go in and say you have to do pushups.
The whole time they're thinking about when they get to,
if you have to do 25, they're thinking about when do I get to 25?
They're not thinking about how do I become the best.
They're not thinking about I can push beyond 25.
They're looking for the end.
They're looking for a result instead of just searching
out greatness.
And to search out greatness and to do your best
and to win a race like this, we're not just going
through the motions of, we need to reach 17,500 people
with X. We're saying, how many people can we reach beyond that?
How can we set a record?
How can we go beyond the normal political machine
and run this differently?
So that's sort of our priority list is
thinking outside the box and running the best race
we possibly can to win this.
Well, it looks like you got a hell of a lot of support
so far.
So congratulations.
I'm linking your website below on the description
and then all your social media will be linked,
but just from you, how do people find you?
Yeah, the biggest help.
I mean, if anybody wants to support us,
you can donate from any state, you can volunteer from any state,
you can do it on starbucks2022.com.
There's a volunteer tab, you fill out your info,
you can make phone calls for us
and things along those lines.
Keep in mind, this is a national race.
So if I'm in there, even though I'm representing Tennessee,
I'm also representing you nationally.
I'm representing the voice of the people nationally
for a movement that wants to put our country first
again and our people first again.
And so if you go there, you sign up,
or can make a donation, that's a huge help.
Social obviously is fun, you know,
if you wanna follow along with like thoughts
and insight and things along those lines,
but that's the biggest help right now is volunteering. That human capital is so important to us because you help
us reach people then within our district. Even if you're in Illinois or you're in California,
you can make phone calls to people in our district and let them know what we're doing. And that helps
build that name ID that we need to win. Perfect. Well, we'll be watching and good luck in 2022,
and I really appreciate it.
Thank you. I appreciate it. Cheers.
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The Bullwork Podcast focuses on political analysis and reporting without partisan loyalties.
Real sense of day job is sprinkled on our PTSD.
So things are going well, I guess.
Every Monday through Friday, Charlie Sykes speaks with guests about the latest stories from
Inside Washington and around the world.
You document in a very compelling way.
All of the positive things have come out of this,
but it also feels like we have this massive hangover.
No shouting or grandstanding.
Principles over partisanship.
The Bullwalk Podcast. Wherever you listen.
No shouting or grandstanding.
Principles over partisanship.
The Bullwalk Podcast. Wherever you listen.