Shawn Ryan Show - #33 Lily Tang Williams - I Fear the Country I Love is Becoming the Country I Left

Episode Date: August 29, 2022

Lily Tang Williams, who escaped communism under Mao's cultural revolution in China came to America with just $100. 🚨Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors 🚨 https://www.mybookie.com (use code SRS) https://goodranchers.com/shawn https://magbreakthrough.com/shawn  Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website - https://www.shawnryanshow.com Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/VigilanceElite TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnryanshow Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/shawnryan762 Lily Tang Williams Links: Website - https://www.lilytangwilliams.com/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/Lily4Liberty Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/lily4liberty   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I want to take a minute to tell you about vigilance elite Patreon. Patron support is what makes this show possible and gives me the ability to bring these one of a kind stories to the public. Go to patreon.com, slash vigilance elite, and support the Sean Ryan show today. This next episode is all about a woman's tale of what it was like going through the Mal Revolution in China, which basically led to a one party controlled China, the Chinese a one party controlled China, the Chinese Communist Party. She escaped it. She moved here to the US of A.

And now she comes on to not only tell her story, but also talk about the similarities of what was going on in China back then, and what's going on in the US right now. This isn't for everybody. Some, a lot of people won't be able to stomach it. Some of you will be able to. And I appreciate you being here. Everybody, no matter what. Thank you for all the support.

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Well, thank you for inviting me. This is great. It's been a pleasure talking to you before we get here. And we've had a ton of people request you to come on the show. And so here we are. Well, I'm honored. I did not know lots of people request you to interview me. I'm very encouraged to hear that.

Good. They absolutely did. So I'm just going to give you a brief introduction. Lily Tang Williams grew up in a very poor family in China during the Mao cultural revolution from 1966 to 1976, which we'll dive into a little later, became a law professor at age 21. You left China for University of Texas in 1988. You're able to fool the CCP in the coming here. And now you're running for Congress and New Hampshire

because you want to save America. Am I missing anything? That's a pre-accurate and a very good summary. All right. Well, we always start every show with a gift So here's your gift and he guesses It's kind of heavy They sound right in show. Can I open it? Absolutely. That's what it's for. Oh You know what my first time Absolutely, that's what it's for. Oh, you know what, my first time open gifts that's wrapped up was my 21st birthday, 24th birthday on the campus of UT Austin.

Nice. I know, my graduate school faculties and professors hold a birthday party for me. I was totally shocked and surprised. I had no idea. My birthday in China is a boy your egg. Oh my goodness look. Those are vigilance lead gummy bears. Oh I love made in the USA not in China. Oh I love gummy bears too. Good. Thank you so much. Yes it's got your own brand. Yeah. Oh wow. Yeah, you probably have lots of products limed off your brand. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Yeah, the three package of them that will last me for a long time. Oh, good. Especially on the capintreo, right? Just can just set it down back there. Okay, perfect.

So before we dive in, we wanna talk a lot about your upbringing in China and then we'll get into some current events type stuff, but lately in the news, Nancy Pelosi just visited Taiwan and China warned us that there will be repercussions if that happened, which they did just launch missiles

right outside of Taiwan. What do you think about that? What are your thoughts on that? Well, my campaign actually issued a press release. I came out immediately to support Pelosi. I tell people as the only Congressional candidate, Republican candidate running for Congress this year, I stand with Pelosi.

I support her to show solidalities, and stand with Taiwan. The same year, so I think America will look very weak if she did the back down because there are threats from CCP, a thuggish government, a lot elected by the people. Republic of China, which is Taiwan, has vibrant democracies and a lot more freedom than men and Chinese. So let the CCP to control our elected officials traveling

at 10 a.m. Cambridge went to Taiwan in the 90s. Why can Pelosi decide she wants to go with a delegation? I even tweeted, if I was in a Congress, I would join her. I could be even, you know, because I'm truly bilingual, right? I mean, Mandarin was my native, you know, mother tone language. We have to absolute support Taiwan. That's

truly a example for 1.4 billion Chinese mainland to say Chinese people are capable of freedom and democracy and free market capitalism. So people need to understand Chinese government in Beijing is one party dictatorship, not elected by people. That's why they don't care about the people. Remember the COVID? First response, any crisis, the local government officials, CCP officials want to cover them up, because they might lose their job.

If they bought top boss in Beijing, found out, oh, you may handle this. So they want to cover up because they don't care about people's sufferings, because they only when they lose their jobs get fired by their top boss in CCP but not by the people so people actually Chinese people are the biggest victims of the CCP government were Taiwan people according to the poll are they so what

happened in Hong Kong they don't want to go back to China because Unification means they're gonna to lose their democracy and freedom. Who wants to do that? Especially younger people in Taiwan, who they learned from Hong Kong. They're like, Hey, one country, two system don't even work. What do you think their interest is in Taiwan? Why is it so? Why are they so fixated on Taiwan despite possible repercussions if they interfere?

They are afraid of Taiwan, because as I said, Taiwan is a free country with democracy, and communist hate, freedom and democracy. And what they worry about most is Taiwan is an example for mainland Chinese. So if they can collapse Hong Kong, control Taiwan, that means the mainland Chinese will not know what the true freedom democracy is about. That's what communist do. They want to take over public lots of places, include other free world countries because they hate their own people

someday wake up to say, you know what? How come we live like slaves? We cannot vote. We cannot hide freedom. I want in lockdowns, government tell us lockdown every 24 hours go charge your covid app to say if I can have another 24 hours freedom. That's what they're doing now. You look at Shanghai, you look at Sun Zhen under lockdown. Those are the most international wealth cities in China. They look like dead. like a dead, it's so sad to say that I think the China economy is about to collapse because of that, because of that, and they are trying to distract to say, you know, because they control the propaganda to say, oh, demonize America, demonize Pelosi to visit Taiwan. She did not say anything on you, Joe. She just said, we stand with Taiwan. We support democracy and freedom. There's nothing wrong with that. But the Chinese Communist Party now is doing all the trainings and all this stuff. I'm glad she actually called their

bluff out. Yeah, me too. Yeah. I never thought I would stand with Pelosi, but I do think that she did that right. Well, that's what I'm saying. We don't have to be partisan on everything. When our elected politician to Ryzen, we should give them the credit. And I, I don't know how many people were Republicans on her dedication. I suggest her she should take a both party elect officials to go with her. Yeah. But that's a Republicans already before she showed up. But because she's like the number three, the most important person in the US politics, that's why China is making all the noise and threats.

Yeah. Well, let's get ready to dive into the interview. One last thing, I always take a question from my patrons. Over on Patreon, they're why I'm sitting here, they're why you're sitting here, they're our biggest supporters. And this one is from Paul Garrison. And I had to pick Paul because Paul has been suggesting you

to come on this show for probably six months now. Well, thanks Paul. Yeah, so Paul's question is, can the US avoid its own version of the culture revolution through legislature, or will it take more home grown, will it take a more home grown approach through strong families and local communities banding together. Well, I think the cultural revolution I see in America has been going on for probably 30 or something years, maybe 40 years.

So it's not like some magic wand that we can just legislate from federal level to change our culture. And I think that's part of the communist like people plan. Remember Yuri, Matthew who come out to say the communists have planned for America. They, they commoners have a plan for America. Mr. Besmir Roth was born in 1939 in a suburb of Moscow. He was the son of a high-ranking Soviet army officer. Well, you spoke several times before about ideological subversion. That is a phrase that I'm afraid some Americans don't fully understand. When the Soviets use the phrase ideological subversion, what do they mean by?

Ideological subversion is the slow process, which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, actively mere priyatia in the language of the KGB or psychological warfare. What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of their abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interests of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. Through four stages, that guy is a former KGB, he knows, he knows, he was de-factor. The number one stage is the demoralizer America. That kind of like a

remind me of Mao's destroy the four old during the cultural revolution demoralize. Mao's destroy the four old, the only cultural revolution, demoralized. Like, destroy the four old, is destroy old culture, ideas, custom, and habits. But why did Mao even mention that? What is agenda purpose to do cultural revolution in the destroy age old Chinese culture Because he use cultural revolution to purge his political enemies within Communist Party And not the people might not know that Mao was marginalized lost his

top leader status, lost president position to Mr. Liu Cao Qi. Liu Cao Qi wanted to reboot the economy because Mao started the great bleak forward. And those a few years, 40 million people estimate it to starve to death. 40 million? Yes. 40 million peasants, mostly in the countryside, poor rural villages who support his communism, supported communist party,

died of starvation. So that's something lots of people in this country don't know. I even did not know until I came to this country, my English got better. And I was told from 1958 to 1961, there were three years natural disasters. Drought, flooding, bugs, blame everything else, then the people were starving. Because my dad told me he was living on one Chinese steam bun a day.

Oh, man. As a worker, four-time worker, four-stay factories. And luckily, I was born in 1964, but I heard three years' natural disasters all my life in China. Unfortunately, lots of people still be there. They still don't know the truth today. I learned the truth after I come to this country. And I cried.

After I found out how many people die of starvation and the people don't know the truth. And I was totally indoctrinated myself. So I did not know anything about that. I was just told to say, oh, you're lucky. You have some food to eat now. And you're not starving. Because my dad was a young man, very muscular. Oh, you're lucky you have some food to eat now and you're not starving. My dad was a young man, very muscular and he grew up as often.

He just wanted to feed his stomach when he got recruited to go to work for safe factory in the city instead of working on the farm. In a village where he become often, he never had one day of schooling, he could not read. My dad is a totally illiterate. Oh, wow. I know that that's why they always tell me, we are starving because we don't have education. You mom, dad, could not move up inside the company's party ranks and you need to get the best education possible so you can have

a better job. They're factory workers. Yeah. And so to answer Paul's question though, that I feel like a demorrelation of America is already accomplished. Look at today's America. accomplished. Look at today's America. Our young people demonize America, co-american systemic racist country, you got a CRT, social emotional learning, 1619 project, and then it politics and transgender ideology in our schools is all about demoronize America and American families and turn kids against the nuclear families. So they belong to the state. I mean, you cannot just legislate, oh, I'm going to change people's minor hearts, that requires time and work. That's why they defend parental rights, my top second campaign issue, because when you take away parental rights, my top second campaign issue,

because when you take away parental rights, like all the communist countries do, your kids become the property of these states. And they can push all kinds of curriculum, information, privacy, tracking, data collection, industrialization to schools, and parents have not no say in that. Look, they shut down schools.

Did you have something about Shari-Dun School's during the past COVID? And they're teaching all this crazy stuff and teachers union, NEA said, what gonna teach critical racism in 14,000 school districts? So you think the cultural revolution is already over. It's happening now. It's happening, but the demoralization to America in America

according to, you know, um, the demoralization. Yeah, it's done. It has been going on for past 40 years. Mm-hmm. And now, um, once you demoralize and and now I think we are in the third stage, which is a conflict crisis, after crisis, after crisis. If demoralize, then you destroy, and then you create a crisis, crisis, and then you're trying to last the stage, is trying to normalize it. When you're trying to normalize, after you already destroy the traditional values and culture we have, so you normalize with what,

with their control, with their power. So that would be like what, replace America, use socialism, globalism, instead of individual liberty and individual sitting rights should not be infringed and guaranteed. Actually, give to us by our creator, by God. Our rights pre-exist government government pre-exist even Constitution. But the sense of our young generations, for two generations now, they have been indoctrinated

to believe otherwise, to believe in government. That's another saying. It's by destroying the families, know, the religions, the demonized redidings, demonized capitalism and capitalists and prophets, guess what they do? They want you to believe on government. And you know, the worst religion in the whole world in my eyes is a believing government because there are the only ones who actually have a monopoly in force. They have guns, they have a presence, and they can lock you up and take you away. You can't hate or co-pregnate all you want, but you don't have to buy their products. And you have some kind of competition, hopefully, even with social media, big tech companies,

but the one government has met lovely, in force and the controls, everything. That's what you get, like communist China. Let's move towards Europe bringing in China during the Mao culture revolution. What was it like growing up with that? Well, I was two years old, and my memory started in this row house, like a A-feminist, a living worker's row house, provided by my dad's day factory,

and all one story, and there with children and my memory started from there one bathroom. One bathroom which is just big hole on the ground. So they take a big hole on the ground and then they put a divider in the middle. So one, one hole is for woman, one hole is for man. You can talk to each other, you can talk to neighbors, you can't hear each other. Doing number one, number two, have conversations. And it just two breaks over the hole. So when you go to number two, number one, as a good girl, you have to find the two breaks. So when the night bulb goes out, I was afraid to go to bathroom.

We were too poor to afford a flashlight. So everybody just had to buy a little party for the apartment. So if you don't want to go to bathroom at night, you just do in your apartment. Next day, you can go down there. Because everything belongs to the state, no private property ownership. So because there's a community housing who cares to put a new light bulb on the night bulb, go bust it, right? So I was so afraid to go to the bathroom at night. So I was so afraid to go to bathroom and night. And because if you're not careful, you can fall backwards

and you'll be buried by human waste. And I think every couple of weeks a patent will come to dig out the human waste and take to the agriculture field to use as fertilizer. That's why Chinese were trained, never, never, in the salad, we did not have salad because it's not safe to eat raw food, have to be all boiled, high temperature,

to kill all the germs. And in Chinese water, boil everything, bottle waters were kind of like your side. When I first came to this country, it was my kind of old habit, like looking for boiling water. I was afraid to drink tap water. So I just remember that and the bugs were flying around. And the flies and the worms were crawling on that

bath, like a restroom floor. I was traumatized as a child. Because if you're not careful when you go to that female hole, you could step on the box crawling on the floor When you step on it, they make a horrible disgusting is pop noise I'm by talking about it. I feel like I get goosebumps. I think I was traumatized by that I just really absolutely hated that and I hate everything crawling on the floor, you know the biggest animal scares me It's a snake crawling crawling on the floor. The biggest animal scares me. It snakes crawling. I think it's so here with that. And then in the summer, they all become flies, and flying around, constantly to make noise.

We did not have any kind of cooling or heating. So winter was extremely cold. I had a frost bite on my left foot. Every year I got the same spot, have frostbite as a little girl. And so they get really, really itchy because I think when you get warm but you got frostbite and then you get warm and then you won't scratch it, and they get itchy. And I always broke my skin and get infected. So, after years now, just the scars are always there. And I don't know how much memory I don't remember, because my dad and my younger brother recently told me, you know what, you're the one who threw away that's some bare fat.

Because I was asking last year who threw away those bare fat? That got really mad and spanked me. Senkai did it. But I didn't do it. My brother, which is five years younger than me, my baby boy, you did it. You don't remember? I said, no. I saw somebody else did it. My baby boy, he said, you did it. You don't remember? I said, no. I saw somebody else did it.

That was really mad. I don't know what happened. So I think that there are some memories I swept under the rug when you are traumatized. And I don't know when they're gonna come out. So another memory, I did not want to talk about it. I voted think about it. I voted think about it. And that discovery last year, the truth is that my grandmother was

babysitting me at the peak of cultural revolution. In the 68, you know, 69, I was four or five years old. My grandma's family and the whole neighborhood ran out of this community water well as a source of water, 20 feet deep. So you go down there, you use little rope to get your bucket down there, get a water, and then you know, get

a bucket up. That's how you get your fresh water and it will boil for you cooking and washing clothes. And one morning everybody was looking at the water well to say, come look, come look! I ran there to look. I think that I must immediately run away. Because I don't remember, I never asked questions. I saw that man, lick it on top of the water well. Oh, so scary. And why? I never asked why. I just run away. And don't talk about it. I think I sweep under the rug for many years. When I got sick last year in the hospital, I don't know why. I got COVID. I was sick. I'm lying there.

No visitor doing nothing very weak. You think about my childhood and close my eyes and always what's going on in today's America. I don't know why when you get so sick, so ill, or you think about your past. And I said, what happened to that man? Who was that man? How come I never asked that question? So when I came home last year from a hospital, I talked to my uncle in China, which to say, I recovered uncle.

I will think about past. Who was that man? My favorite uncle, one of three uncles, who was part of Rickard. He said, black family, black class member, committee suicide. He could not handle the struggle sessions anymore. People will start to Google struggle sessions under mouse

cut to revolution. So basically, Mao uses standard Marxist communist theory, people are dividing into two giant groups, which we use them today. A presser versus a press. Who are the pressers? Under mouth, five black classes, rich farmers, land, land, like a country revolutionaryist, whiteist, bad influencers. So you got three categories, very subjective. How do you define?

They were black classes or the party? They call them black classes. Yes, five black, five black versus five red. And but under five black classes, they all oppressors. So they're supposed to go to this public square to lower their head, to apologize for being black, to be public and shamed, and the red guards will rock at them. Mao also shot down schools. So the urban youth had no school to go to so they can do cultural revolution four times.

Go eliminate your political enemies. I was a red child. Okay, here are these five red classes under oppressed. Workers, peasants, like I'm a workers child. Because actually, I could be black if my grandfather was not killed. Because my grandfather, my grandfather, I never met. Had land, had money. Both grandfather's dead. I never met both sides. Real biological grandfather. I only had one grandmother I knew,

and since I was little, and she's the one who babysit me, and she went through, when your struggle session too, because her, my real grandfather died in Sichuan mountains, and she remarried second husband was a red worker, but they found out you were second wife of this leader in like outlawed

Outlawed group leader in Sichuan mountains He must be killed as a county revolutionary which were categorized all families to be black My grandma keeps saying stick to her truth. She keeps saying no. My dad has been was killed by his own people as a kind of part of our group over some disputes. But after one year investigation, my grandmother, you know, went through that when you're somebody pulled her back, standing up, apologized, did, did, right self-criticism, and

want her confess, confess, confess. She keeps saying I have nothing to confess. I have a husband who is a worker, a red class. And after when you're in investigation, God thank goodness. Okay, you told the truth. Your husband was not a county revolutionary. He was killed by his own men. Okay, now you're categorized as red class That's why then we all become red otherwise If you have one grandmother categorized blue black the entire family is black unless one thing Mal urged

Young people to do You can become red from black if you deluxe your families. You come out publicly to say, my grandparents were born black, they were land-nord, and I'm sorry, I apologize. I'm going to draw the line to belongs my family. I will change my last name like from Tang to Wang. Then I become red.

Were a lot of people doing that? Oh, so many, so many. Because young people don't know. Young people were brainwashed and they were pressured. They also totally trust in the propaganda. And Mao was like a god. We say everything, long live Chiang Mai Mao, hold a little red book, long live Chiang Mai Mao, long live Communist Party, 10,000 years, double 10,000 years. I never challenge that. Like, is he God or is he human?

No, I never ask that question. But I was just changing every day. So the teenagers in the cities are being used. They were brainwashed and they were pressured. If you don't belong to a family, change last name. They were brainwashed and they were pressured. If you don't belong to a family, change last name. You can never join mouse students organizations. Like Yang Pioneer, we're Red Scarf, Red Guard,

Communist Youth Member, and the Communist Party Member were all the jobs. Best jobs are all follows, you know, communist group members. And today on Google, you can see this one guy is in his 16th now, my uncle generation, goes to visit this torture site where he saw his mother

torture to death by regards. And apologize to say mom, I was 16, I did not know. I'm sorry. Heartbroken. And I feel sorry for those people who delusored families, thank goodness I didn't do it, you know. And he never got married. He feels public guilty all his life. But I believed what the party wanted me to believe. Black feminism, enemies of state, torture them, enemies of state, tortured them, threw rocks at them, sent them to labor camps. And another horrible sight in my childhood memory is that.

Sorry, boss. Do you have a napkin? Sorry, boss. Do you have a blabkin? And I saw black-class people after strike sessions in this public square going on military trucks. They were going to get shot. I was scared to look at them to say it looked so pale. And the real guards were saying, down with soldiers behind those people, I was told, after they

show off to all the people, they are the enemies of state, they are going to get shot. And Chen Du had a public execution site. and I do have a black and class friends. I never asked any questions. And I come to this country and made lots of those people living in the United States, not tell me their family stories. And I think that I have a lot of friends who are not interested in the world. I think that I have a lot of lots of those people living in the United States, not tell me their family stories and some lost family members, some community suicide. How many people do you think were executed that day?

Well, ten years. That day I saw probably four people were in the military trucks, but according to the Communist Party official words, 20 million people were murdered. 20 million people. During Mao's cultural revolution, probably that also includes the one who could not handle struggle sessions, could not handle concentration camps and the committee suicide.

There were people who originally supported the party, intellectuals, scientists, professors, teachers, even the people who were kind of wealthy, but there are young people supported the party. But then later, because the multicultural revolution of sudden, the party supporters become black class because they were born that way. See, that's another saying, you were born black. So you were guilty. Unless you changed your last name, you deluxe your family, sometimes that is not enough. So, this is through their supporters under the bus. I remember I watched this movie, Black and White movie called Red. Red about the New Yorker, you know, like a reporter.

They same thing. They believe in communism until something horrible happened to yourself, make you ask a question. Oh, this is what I'm chasing, I'm chasing and believing. Now I am the enemy myself. I got through into concentration camps. And it just did not make sense. Some people couldn't handle it. They committed suicide. Even the inshawpins sang.

They later, China, remember, he's one of his songs, committed suicide. During the cultural revolution jump of the building, become permanent. One of the Chinese people, the leader of China, remember his one of his sons, committed suicide during the cultural revolution jump of the building, become permanent, they handicapped, you know, lost its leg. I hope history will never repeat itself, but unfortunately, the tragedies and the horrors of this cultural revolution is not being talked about,

not being taught to our school kids, college kids, and how hard it is for me to them to see them, waving a communist flag, like an anti-f you bill M kids, you know, bill M leaders come out to say, we are trend Marxist. Do they even understand what that means? For my personal experience, what I witnessed is what absolutely horrible and effect life for ever. But I did not know the truth. I was still chanting. I had no idea about the truth until I came to this country. And there are lots of people living inside the China still don't know the truth. They still believe three years natural disasters people starving to death. Not most communist, central planning, economic policies.

Communist means government takes away all means of production controls everything. From land to property, factories, natural resources and also media, schools, press, TV, radio stations, everything is one party control. No judicial independence, all courts, all prosecutors, all teachers, all doctors, all reporters work for the government. One party control, even today. So why do we believe any numbers from the CCP today, official numbers of economy, cold wave cases, and all that, or calling it in all about Taiwan?

You cannot believe them because their numbers are official, but the RMBD do quote them. And so I start to, I think, ask questions. When Mao died, I was 12. I was 12. But I could not ask questions publicly. We learned how to whisper to each other, with our neighbors, with our families.

I was always very inquisitive. I always asked, I saw people whispering each other, like neighbors in their apartment, my families. I was sitting in a little girl to say, oh, what are you talking about? I will ask questions. They told me, very secretive because they were afraid what you talk about would be reported to authorities because the party had a block committees in every neighborhood. They call the Chinese Communist Party Black Committee.

So they are in your neighborhood, and they know you, they know where you're left. So you need to be careful what you talk about. So I was always tell, don't ask questions, you're just child. I did not understand that. Because I was a red child, I was a rich child, I was a class president and I still

had some brain left, I think. But I started asking questions who liked to me. Mao was not God. He was a human. That's why he died. I got that. We were not taught science at all. I was so brainwashed that I could say Mao sometimes in the sky talking to me, like he was smiling behind the clouds. I tell people, like

the cartoon movie, Samba, look up, when his father was talking to him, you know, like oh, his mom was talking to me, smiling. And the way it had to burn wood, to hit a block to do stun frying or outdoor catching. And the mall in the flame, I will say his face is mining at me. Because every day it's lonely, we chill my mall. We sing songs every morning before we start a Chinese mess. To say my parents are dear, my mouth is more dear, and the mouth is the rising sun from the east, all those revolutionary sounds. So I was totally privileged, even though I was a hungry child, but we were told we should be grateful. Taiwanese people were suffering, we need

to go liberty them. America is an impure country, we need to defeat them. So nothing has changed. They're still doing that kind of propaganda today, but it just with the internet is harder to tell people not how many people are suffering and are hungry. Think about way lived on food rationing coupons. My parents and two younger brothers, family of five, per my parents official position side state factories, we had minimum food rationing coupons to use per month. To give you idea how much we ate,

we were now to get the proteins. Proteins that mean could all the eggs, all the meat, doesn't matter, chicken beef or pork, but beef was just unreachable. I think in Chinese, we just had a pork to buy with our coupons. And 2.8 pounds of protein coupons for family of five months. 2.8 pounds a month?

Yes. You can have one day, we're meal, family of five. So we were very very hungry as I said I do not remember when single to add When I had my birthday people don't believe that It's boy or egg you were lucky to have a boy or egg that day they say for you for your birthday My mom was very sick ill person for your birthday. My mom was very sick, ill person. She was pretty mature baby with lots of problems. I'm the oldest out of three children, so I was treated as a adult since I was six years old. People believe a communism is free, offer free stuff, it's lie. I was told by my parents and baked by my parents at the age of six when I was dying to go

to school to learn how to read and writeit my one year old infant brother. They could not afford his factory infant care. They could afford my next brother, younger brother, who is only 70 months younger than me, will make grandma come babysitting anymore. They put him the childcare in my desk factory, but they infant care cost more money. And they, they thought I was mature enough as a girl, as a big sister, to stay home babysitting him. I said, no, no, I want to go to school. But they baked me, they said, well, we'll buy you a foreign movie ticket as a bribe, which is not your reason to do a foreign movie ticket. And then we need you help. We cannot afford it. We still have to buy food.

to help, we cannot afford it. We still have to buy food. I remember I just cried for three days. I wanna go school. And this, you know what can I do? I said, okay. I took the movie ticket. And watched the Romania, I think fighting Nazis. And loved the foreign movie.

Because when we were so pressed, we watched the foreign movie. We saw foreigners in the movies. And the speciality we saw them hugging and kissing each other in the movies. It was like a... Because during our culture, during most cultural routine, we don't show affections to each other. And we were not allowed to date. We were allowed to wear pretty clothes.

Like, what I'm wearing today, a Chinese silk blouse, was a band, because one of the four old, old culture, custom, ideas, and habits. When red guards nodding door to door, people want to hide clothes like this or burn it and give away. Because if you get caught, you can go to struck sessions and go to neighbor camps because you were capitalist, you were black class, because you had old stuff like this. Everybody suppose looks the same, girls look like boys,

approve hairstyles, they even approve your hairstyle. Yeah, I cannot leave my hair down like this, past shoulder. So you see my old picture online as a young pioneer, great guards. You have to braid your hair. You have a piggy-tiles, ponytails, or short hair. You cannot lay down here freestyle like this long. You must braid it, put up. here freestyle like this long. You must break it, put up, you know. And but but I wanted to go school anyway. So I had to stay home for a year. I watched for my

baby brother. And I was scared at beginning because a courtyard was very quiet. Under communist China during Mao, you must work. Everybody must work. Including all women, all mothers. You cannot stay home to say, can I stay home with my babies? No. You have a guarantee the job with the state. But it's not up to you to choose what job or position. You just must work. How do they decide where you're going to work?

Everybody worked for the state. So my mom worked for big steel production factory. That's subject to, you know, all the way to Beijing and government control. He was recruited. My dad was an orphan. He was recruited to work for them. They went to countryside, recouped young men who are very muscular. As I mentioned, my dad grew up as orphan and never met my real grandparents from his side. He was illiterate. So he was managing one steam bun to another steam bun, starving all the time. So when they offered, recruit him to say, young man, you want to work for the new China? And we'll get you to cities and have a salary. You have three meals a day.

Of course he signed up. I think my dad was 17 or something. And he was often since five years old, grew up on the farm, had to fight against bullets because he grew up as often, and no education. Because my real grandfather had some land, and the diet of a strange disease where he spent all his wealth, money to trade himself, and still died. And my grandmother died in a countryside, working on two part-time jobs to feed her children.

And when she got by the by a dog, got infected. She had no money to trade her infection, and she died. So all six kids become orphans. And my, I never met all my mom, my dad's side family members because I think two sisters just basically sold and married up often to cook some food and marry somebody

and that very young age. My dad was kind of adopted by his uncle because my dad was the youngest and his uncle did not have children. So I don't have money, but you can work on the farm and make some, you know, feed yourself. So my dad was working as a bottom of the workers, but if my dad was strong and really took the smart, but in the education. So Communist Party wanted to promote him

and get him join the party and trying to make him a supervisor of the floor work. He couldn't do it. He said, I cannot read, I cannot do homework. They put him in workers' college. He bought a homework home to say, can you help me do this? And I quickly he just gave up. He said, okay, I don't want promotion. I just want to go do my own cement, concrete, worker job, and on the floor, because I cannot build any kind of manager. But your food coupon is based on how much,

you know, how high your position is. That's why we did not get much food. And I told people, we were so hungry. My uncle, when my grandmother was babysitting me to say, hey, there are some rats running around in my grandma's courtyard. And he set up a trap. And we got rat one day when rat and He you know put the rat meat in the skin it meat on the fire and It was suck on the bones not much meat of course very little but still hey, it's something for you to suck

But everybody learned to catch rats and they rang out very quickly. You run out of rats to eat? Yes. That's how bad it was. Yeah, like today's, I saw that's today's, you know, Venezuela and people say that too. But we rang out. That's why when you are extremely poor, you don't have animals, animals are gone. Birds shut down by the fishermen to eat. Dog's cats do not exist.

And we had one dog in our community, five, eight families, right? She had one best-room, eight families. One family had a dog. All the kids loved their dog, and they please come in to say, it's illegal to have a dog. If you killed it, you're welcome to come to get your dog and kill it. Maybe you did too. So my neighbor had no choice. Then they put dog down and ate the meat, way as kids were very sad.

And that was only dog I knew actually. And later I came to this country, I had a pet, my first dog. And they sent you so, once I got to school, after when your babysitting, and I was so motivated. I would be a bad student,

and I would do very well. I have good memory, and I was seven years old when I started school. But I made a one-critical mistake. I was a little bit too confident. Say, only the best students got nominated to join in miles in Yangpai-Dia, where you were a red scarf. And the teachers were nominated, best students,

called the three married students, politically, correct, academic, excellent, and the physically, education, physically, fit. Called the three married students, then you will get to be first one to join in a young pioneer where they really scarf. I met all those criteria. I was best student, I met 100% on every subject. I was very, very physically fit doing all the physical education activities. I was a red child and I was politically

correct. So I so now be the first one to join in miles, Yang Yang Yang Yang become a red scarf girl. It was such an honor privilege to be the one who wear the red scarf. But I was told by my teacher, somebody reported on you because you were bragging about yourself how wonderful you are and you will be the first one to wear the red scarf. We're not going to let you, because you are too confident. You are full of yourself basically, criticize me, full of myself, and too expressive. I was tenying my girlfriend privately. I better be the first one to join. But she told me,

after that lesson at the age of seven, I could not trust anybody. So you're not allowed to be proud of yourself? No. I was told by my teacher, we are a collective society. Everybody should have been in. Everybody should feel in. Everybody should be the same.

And your self-expression of confidence, bragging about yourself, is serious flaw. I think this is what we're going to hold you back. You, according to your grades, everything, you should be the first one joined, but we're not going to dominate you to join where red scarches, because what you said, private it to your friend. I, I dare not to say anything. I complained to my parents. They were brainwashed too. They said,

we agree with your teacher. Say Chinese have traditional saying, the first bird flying out of forest, get shot. So I was like a male standing out and you get a hammer down. So I learned my lesson. Do not trust anybody at the age of seven in a one-party control state. Don't trust your neighbors, don't trust your teachers, don't even trust

your family members. Because family members, some belong to Communist Party. What I mean, everybody is encouraged to come out, to write a diary, to confess. What you think yourself also, what you heard from your family members and your neighbors about anything not PC, politically correct. So if you hear anybody saying something, challenge, mouth or party, let's cry. Thought, crime existed. If you wear mouse, remember mouse, check my mouse big button.

If you wear the upside down accidentally, it's a crime. You can go to jail. If you hold the check my mouse, you need to read a book to say long leave the check my mouse. But upside down, listen to you are a little country revolutionary. Everything was about politics. It was in your face every day. There's no downtime. There's no off-the-grade living. And so you have to be very careful. It's like it's hard to have any fun

as a child. Our music has to be proved. Songs have to be all loyal to Mao and the party. and every day this community housing, I lived there for 15 years, next to my junior high and high school, 6.30 in the morning, a big loudspeaker come up to say, time to get up, time to go work, time to go your mother, long in the comments party. Here's news. It's all very high pitch noise. Have you heard about Peking opera? Most wife created very political Peking opera to sing red songs about Mao Party regime. It was awful. It was using high-peach voice but singing red songs. So we had to hear that. Once a while, my... So they would just have loud speakers everywhere and you'd be forced to listen to the propaganda. Yeah, it's like a you know it's like when you say the Nazi

movies they have only concentration camp. It's but they don't have a 24 hour stay and they they are having the morning in the morning time to get up to go to school. So you cannot sleep in. It was everywhere when I was in college. I was in college from 1981 to 1985. Long stop every morning, you cannot sleep in. If you want to escape classes, you just have to cover your years. Once they turn it off and class or restart it,

then you be quiet, then you can go back to sleep. That's how bad it was. It's like, we really don't have any privacy. So that's why you keep everything. I learned to keep everything to yourself. Don't trust anybody. When I ask your questions, it's like by the way I did have a couple crushes about my classmates in middle school high school. You know that's natural, right? But we are we're not allowed to date. One boy in middle school I was a class president. He came to me, oh no, the girl came to me to say, I'm so scared.

What should I do? She received a love letter from him. And basically, he had to cross on her, a pretty girl in junior high. She got scared. She didn't know what to do. She come talk to me because my parents apartment just next to the school. I was so brainwashed. I was so pretty to correct. Of course you know what to do. We're banned from dating. You give this letter to teacher. She did. And that boy I

never smiled again. He probably got a referral, went to private meetings, did the criticize. Probably even noted on his student file. Every child had a student file, secret. Your parents and yourself don't allow to see what's inside. That's how they track you. So if you get disciplined action like this, then you will get rid of your student file. And of course, after I woke up this country,

I feel guilty about what I did. I was child. I did not know. And she and him just never smiled again. I don't know what happened to them privately. And so we're not allowed to date. That's why you're not allowed to look pretty. Look like a girls. You know, I had to learn how to do makeup after I come to this country, I learned how to do makeup. And I think the most I did in college was a lipstick. And of course, we're all young, we don't need a makeup. But the same is everything.

It's a bourgeois lifestyle. If you do anything that Western people do, you will get criticized. So, close like this, a, approve hairstyle, no dating, and once a while, I hear a classic music. One minute, during a new break on the radio, of government radio, all controlled by government, my neighbor, only one family out of eight,

had a little radio. I said, that's so beautiful. I heard the classic music piano during the news break. Every day at that time during the news break, a short time there was a classic music. After all that revolutionary opera and red songs, we were deprived, beautiful music. So, I baked them.

It's dinner time. Can I come in next to the radio? Very close. I will not bother you, eating dinner, because we are too poor to have a radio. And they made me eat, and I want I would go there and just concentrate myself into listening to a classic, like, sometimes, vining, sometimes piano, sometimes it's simply very short. Oh, I don't know what it is. It was magic. And my tears will come out, and I said, well, it's beautiful, so beautiful.

Oh, thank you so much, thank you so much. And so my entire childhood dream is like, dad, won't have a bad radio. So I don't have to bother my neighbors, listen to it. We never had a radio, because my dad, mom, was not high enough, and they were always in that, their entire life was in that. Until I come to this country from my graduate school

or a research citizenship job, 500 hours a month, I saved money. I helped my parents to pay off their debts. And my dad said, well, what do you need the radio? You have a loud speaker every day for news. And I need to go to work. I need to save money for a bicycle, a use pack. My dad is very hardworking.

My mom's sick all the time. So we all ran out of my dad. And he will get up early in the morning, go catch public bus. And bus were always so crowded and So people fight to get on two times Two times my dad told me he got locked down to the floor nine down there and

And bus drive by his ears One time he come home really pale. he said I could be killed this morning. And because I got locked down and by the stronger people fighting to get on the bus to go to work. And you could lose your job. But if you don't show up work on time, you'll everybody have to fight and get up really in the morning. So my dad's dream is to have a used bike and a little fan in the summer to blow air because

I he saw me doing homework. I was sweat like little peg just like a cupboard with sweat on my face. And they say that you know what loser to priorities. I get to myself use bike or get you little fan to blow air in the summer for you to do homework because I was good student and my dad is very proud of me. So I never had a radio and my dad did get his used bike. Later he had a borrowed money to get me a little fan from my uncle and pay back gradually later. And when people say they don't understand when they want the social-divisive communism,

look, what kind of life we had? What's the public, unbelievable primitive poverty that people in this country will never know the details about it. And as I said, I got a frostbite and I even did not know about back to the bare fat story I mentioned to you earlier, but I don't remember it. What happened my dad spent lots of money to get a bare fat. It's a super station. If you get a bare fat, like a really fat, like a bacon, right? Bare fat is from bears. And the put on my fingers in the winter were also

red and swollen and like frostbite. They would go away. It would help. And of course, he can also use to fry food and to make a Chinese food certified. So he got them and it just sitting there. And I did not know, I did not recognize it was something valuable. I saw it was some trash, you know, you know, jar or something. And I'm the one who throw away away but I don't remember that.

So I was punished by my dad but like last year they told me you did it, you throw away not not you two younger brothers. If my baby brother who is a five years younger remember that he must be right because he's five years younger. I Don't remember it. I Thrown at the rock. I don't know what happened. I Must be too painful to traumatized and But my dad blesses her in a very hard working and

Because my dad had too much pride, too much human dignity, he would not put up with his company's party boss in his day factory. So when they treat him like dirt, like an animal, and the punting table, my dad, that kind of guy, were punting table back and they're trying to get rid of him for many years. And I remember in the 80s, late 70s, they said, Hey, Mr. Ton, we want to send you to countries like to work. Remember everybody worked for the state. If they want to send you to go to some work work, it's not family package. You go to their work by yourself. It's very common back then, families are separated.

So my dad could go to this country side work. It's like what, it's like a take two whole days past to go there and tour. Maybe come home with it once a year or something, my mom would be home with three babies. My dad refused to go. The boss, my wife is a premature baby, very sick all the time. I got to stay close to my three kids. They ran me to take care of them. And my wife goes to the hospital all the time. And so he said, I cannot go.

And then they always try to fire him. So finally, as soon as he turned on it, like I was thinking about 45 or something, they called the early retirement to say, no more job anymore, retire earlier. And my death thought, you know what? If I retire earlier, I couldn't start my own business. That was after cultural revolution

under Deng Xiaoping, people allowed to have their own business, like even straight vendor business. My dad is very handy, my catty-cook. Oh, I can fix bicycle. I can fix tricycle. He said, okay, I would take early retirement instead of going to countryside to work. My wife and kids left alone. And that way, I can just make more money even, because he can work longer hours, too. And they will not give him a stay license.

You require a city license to have a business on a straight to fix people's bicycles. So my dad said, well, why? Because you are a retired worker. You have a salary. We need to get a license to other people who don't have any jobs at all. My dad said, that's not right.

My salary is very low. Keep my family in fact. We have family in fact. My wife is sick all the time. I need to make extra money. And my dad is such a man with dignity. He did not figure out. He need to come up with a lot of cash to bribe.

If he did the bribe, he might get a license, but instead, he was just male of integrity. He did not do it. He just did it illegally. So he worked in a so-called black market. He worked at night to fix people's bicycles. He also... Fixing bicycles was a black market occupation.

Yes. Wow. You cannot imagine that. He also fixing bicycles was a black market occupation. Yes, wow I know you cannot imagine that and because it feels to give you license by the city officials It's called a Changguan they were government and So my dad actually later on fix a tricycle so people who that time if you So, people who, that time, if you carry passengers around inside the city, when people need a transportation, right? Not everybody had a bicycle or want to use a bicycle. So he would, you know, transport passengers.

Come on, then you get in, and he's strong. So a tricycle, then a two passenger canen on the back, and my dad did that in Niko-le. And he got robbed many times. At one time, somebody beat his nose, broke his nose, bleeding, and he ran to the hospital, Kunao cocaps. How can you call cops? If you're working legally, right? I mean, the government confiscated his tools,

his tricycle before, so he did not report. And they took all his money, all his cash, too. Then he would just manage the borrow money and start over again, get, you know again. He said, you know, no matter how hard it is, how dangerous it is, but it's still money. That's why I would say, the government regulations take people's rights to make a living away and sell back to you. It's called occupational license. Yeah. Yeah, but my dad, that's how he, he, he worked like this for many years to

put me through college. Remember to go to college even though the government recoded me at the age of 17 when I passed the college exam, national and college exam, and I was a red child, my file, all very politically correct, no problem with family, and the best score, and I wanted to go to study law, because as I said, I started to ask questions. I need to search for truth. And but then, or did I get the food money? My dad hard earned money cash from illegally working in the evenings of the straight to give me food

and food money every month when I was in college, four years from when I was 17 to 21. Wow. That is unfathomable. Yeah, and the people say, well, you were red class. You could have good life in communist country because you were workers, workers rule. That's what the, you know, Karl Marx said,

workers rule, they grade the politicians, cultural revolution under Mao. Everybody suffered, everybody. You, if you are on top of the 1%, you're okay. I'm sure Chiang Mai Mao had all the meat he wanted. And they did all the woman play with as many women as he wanted. According to his private doctor's book, the private life of Chiang Mai Mao, because he was a god, he was an emperor, and he can do whatever he wanted.

And we could not even look pretty. We could not date. And could not even look pretty. We could not date, and could not make a living. And the Maul had a famous saying, if someday everybody in China can eat roasted beef in soy sauce with potatoes, then communism would be fully fulfilled. Just afford to eat that dish. I can't eat that dish

every day. Even later, after China's economic reform, my relatives could afford that dish better, they passed, you know, and then China economy got better, not because communism is because the economic reform and open up and it basically adopted free market capitalism a little bit but with still central controlling and planning and then the economy just took off. But that's what they tell you communism, tell you, we'll give you free healthcare, free childcare, free education and give land back to the peasants. That's what the Communist Party promised, mal-pramised to all the Chinese before

1949. And that's when, remember, they were fighting Japanese first, actually most time was Nationalist Party. Shanghai's government, called the Attao Member, was a Republic of China. That was actually the government before the Communist government called the Republic of China. Under Guomin Da, Nationalist Party, they did most of fighting against Japanese and Mao was recouping, reorganizing and then later had a civil war, Communist Party, fighting nationalist party and the national party left. So Republic of China got to Taiwan. And people don't know the history to say, oh, Taiwan is part of China. If you really study history, that's not true. Taiwan was under Japan for many years.

Taiwan was an island. When Xiang Kai-she had a free China, then they went to Taiwan. And many years later, Taiwan became a democracy. Moné won party dictatorship. And because Xiang Kai-she died, and his son become the president, and the transition to democracy and free country, and become one of the president and the transition to democracy and free country and become one of the four dragons. We call the little Asian dragons. Four of them, we have Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore,

and what is another con-de-time Hong Kong? Hong Kong was under British rule. Very good economy. But they tried to indoctrinate all the men and Chinese for years. We got to go liberate Taiwan. And they used patriotic education trying to push down on Hong Kong students who subject to British rule for many years, who resisted centralized education. Lee's generation by Beijing. That's how the Hong Kong students had umbrella movement, like 2013-2014, later by students.

And they just won. Now in the jail, after 2019, the Hong Kong protest against the China's imposing national security laws. So, Hong Kong is gone. And people got to realize who are the enemies of communist. It's the people who believe in freedom, democracy, separation of powers, judicial independence, they hate them. So they hated Hong Kong, they hated Taiwan,

and they hated, they still hate America. If you look at China's propaganda today inside of China through CCTV, they're not propaganda propaganda. Basically, demonize America. I have a Chinese girlfriend in North Carolina. She married to American citizen. Her family told her in China, her family in China told her, do not come home with him with your American husband. He's not welcome.

That tells you today, CCP, how much propaganda that is to brainwash its people. It's very sad that the 1.4 billion Chinese are enslaved, but always consent. They were under zero COVID lockdown, testing every day. No food for 10 weeks, my friends were starving Shanghai, trapped inside the apartment for 10 weeks. They had money, but they could not go out. Stay home, their doors were burned, Bob wires on the community building stairs,

you could not get out, totally disarmed, even under lockdown like that, and people still supported, lots of them still supported the party. Can you believe that? My family in China have no idea what I'm saying here. If they knew, they probably would criticize me. My uncle who went to countryside, my three uncles

went to countryside for 10 years. After mile, finished using the young people to read guards in the cities, and they were becoming violent. They were fighting each other on the streets. And the generals told the Mao to say, you got to do something with those young people. He started another campaign. Down to the mountains, get a re-education

by the peasants, send them away to the countryside. You have no choice as parents. You keep one kid, youngest, stay home. So my grandparents, my grandmother, my stepgranddad, they only got to keep my end at home, youngest. All three uncles sent to countryside for 10 years and you are allowed to come home once a year. That's it once a year? Yes. My grandma cried every time when my uncles, my special, my favorite second uncle came home. I always wanted to say him. He was sent to the

rural countryside, Lier Burma, you know, in southwest China, and grandma were always crying when he lived. I remember I was still in elementary school. I gave him my pennies, and my pennies saved up from Chinese New Year's, I said, oh, Uncle, you'll be gone. I only see you once a year. Here, take this. He cried too. And he come home. No wife, no job, no skill, no high school diploma.

And only were allowed to come home if you were single. If you get married in the countryside, your household registration will be in the countryside. If you marry somebody in the countryside, you will not allow to come back to the cities. For that reason, none of my uncles took a wife from 17 to 27. And he came home, had to run out of friends or arrange to meet somebody to get married. Because you have nothing, you don't know anybody, then time is running out.

You have to start to date people, then subject to one child policy, you had one child, my cousin. So, but a lot of those generation people though, read guards, some of them still not awake because you don't know the truth. They were talked about their life, they were laugh about it, my uncle's very bitter, but still, they don't know the truth. I have my family asked me to mall, malls dance every December on his birthday. Mall died in 1976.

He's a mass murderer. But my family said, let's take a one minute to have a memorial for him. Human sorrow, human tragedy. And I really, I just become speechless. I cannot tell them. When did the one child policy start? In the 80s. In the 80s? Yeah. When under Mao, it's kind of weird.

Under Mao, Mao said, be a mom is glorious. Have as many kids as you want. I remember my Chinese teacher had nine kids. No birth control. Because he said, we've got to show the world. We have lots, lots of people.

And I heard he had no compassion when people crying, holding his hand, kissing his hand, telling him about poor families. He no smiled and no laughter. When people told him during a so-called mass family, like people are starving to death, he had no reaction. We got lots of people.

Yeah, 20 million, no big deal, or something like that. I don't know if it's true or not. It's very scary that somebody like that, people worship him like a god. But he has no respect to human life. But then, all of a sudden, he died. And the Communist Party had a new leader.

And they wrote into law, say, push for one child policy, because the China economy was just about to collapse completely, and after Mao's death, and the Stunshan people said, these some people get rich first. Let's reboot our economy. And it's also country population growth. They blame bad economy on too big population. Too many people.

Yeah, too many people. Instead of it's your political ideology, your system, complete failed. More people in this country might say that's not real communism. You know, how many people have to die to prove to you real communism, socialism, and words. 100 meaning people died in 100 years under communism. How many experiments do you want. So if they know the real history, if they know they what happened to us during most cultural revolution 2.0. The Chairman Xi wants to have common prosperity.

So that's why he looked at his policies. That he took over basically lots, lots of private, huge industries and companies. A bin in Laird Jack Ma was forced to retire, also disappeared for a few months, because he dared to criticize China regularly, later on, economy. Didn't the CEO of Vali Baba disappear too? That's him, Jack Ma. That's him. That's him, Al Ma. That's him. Alibaba say, you know, and his company also was told, cannot go public in Hong Kong. Say, how

could a private company get so rich? It's of course there's power struggle. I heard that, you know, lots of companies, billionaires got rich under Jiang Zemin, the, you know, former president and Jiang's faction and theair's got rage under Jiang Zemin, the former president, and Jiang's faction, and the Xi's faction are constantly fighting each other to gain power, to gain control. So when Chairman Xi came to power 2012, it's 10 years now, that's why he subject to another third term coming in the fourth. He changed the China Constitution to allow unlimited presidency. But will he become...

He's the one that changed that? Wow, so quote-unvoted by 99% of 99% people of Congress, which is the upper step, people's Congress, China's Constitution says all Chinese parties are under dictatorship of China's Communist Party, right that. So, but under Denshau Ping, he he did say we should have term limit. So Dan limit himself to two terms, five years, ten years. And same thing happened to Hu Jin Tao and Jiang Zemin. But she come to power. He got rid of that. So people should know that. Why?

He has, we call him a new Mao. New Mao. He's that bad. He's a hardcore communist. And so, they, even celebrities were quiet now in China. All the YouTubers, celebrities, famous actress, actors, and billionaires, and many many others got rich from past China's limited free market capitalism, and allow private industries and

private enterprises. And they were kind of staying low-file, keep their head down now. And sometimes they disappear. China is famous for disappearing people. In my role-house community housing courtyard, I heard two neighbors disappeared. Their family never find out what happened to them. I don't know what happened. I was a child. But my dad told me, yeah, they're gone. They want to be in a straight, religious gun. And the people still disappeared today in China.

And there are dark prisons called the Prisoner's Conscious and the human rights lawyers, of conscious and human rights lawyers. If you practice human rights as a career as a lawyer, that's a very dangerous career for you to have in China. If I stay in China, I could be the jail too. By saying what I'm saying, because I thought when you go study law it's really to protect people to promote justice and equality. No, I was told in law school that law is a tool for the But law is a tool for the party to use, to govern the masses. So all the Chinese people just messes.

I was depressed. So remember I was asked question at 12 years old. At 17 I went to law school. I was asking questions again. So I wanted to study law. To help my country to become a society, a rule of law. And heard my professor telling me that, then I got depressed again. I was lost to so for two years after my mother's death. And now I was lost in law school. Why should I do it with my life? So I become a rebelling teenager.

That's my awakening story happening. It's a I become rebelling teenager in college. We were subject to Department of Education mandates. So when I first went to law school in 1981, which is college degree for four years, and they banned us also from here, they did not steal. Ban dancing parties and ban blue jeans. Blue jeans is West lifestyle.

And now we're blue jeans to go to school campus. And we were rebelling, we didn't care so much. So we would just constantly have our hair wet. And it's like, oh, my hair's wet. I just had shower. I cannot put up. I need to get dry. So here lay down past, you sure will

constantly fighting with guards at the gate. Because my dormitory was outside. So eventually, we got a boombox to play music on the hallway of dormitory. Dormitory lights shut off at 10 pm. As a dose college student, we had a curfew. 10 pm, all the lights came off, 10 pm. So as college kids, we couldn't sleep.

And we were learning how to dance in the hallway. With the book box, like Kaseh, play Kaseh. Play dancing music to practice our footsteps, you know. And because we had to run into a domitri bathroom at night, it's one location in the hallway. So they had to keep the lights study in the school, and the school, and the school, and the school, and the school, and the school, and the school, and the

school, and the school, and the school, and the school, and the school, and the school, and the school, and the school, and the school, and the school, and the Remember that it needs to be 10 square, 1989 students protest. We had Hu Yao Bam as the China's new premier. He wanted to have political reforms besides economic reforms under the Xi Jinping to say, you know, Chinese people should decide what kind of country, what kind of political system they should have? He did not even say to party system.

He did not say over through the Communist Party. He just said, we should discuss that. Maybe we should talk about democracy. Then he got marginalized. He knows his position. When I was, I think of that time in the 80s. And that's another story about, then, these two, Tian Man Square massive peaceful protest. But I was in college, oh, now we can have dancing parties and we can wear whatever we want

to. And our pictures transitioned from black and white to code that color film. All the string vendors were sending code that color film, and I started to wear very bright, colorful clothes, and I was told not to in high school and middle school. And I went to dancing parties almost every weekend. And I learned this call, like more 10 years behind. But we studied, we learned this call.

And you just be able to shake your body anywhere you say faith with very fast beat music. We feel sense of liberation. Sense of freedom. Oh, there was a best time of my life in college up to that point. And I did skip classes because I lost interest in the legal system. They want me to study. And I was very interested in foreign students and faculties on campus. There were some exchange students. And we invited them to our parties, so all private parties inside the dormitory. And asked them, hey, what are you country like?

What are you country like? My English was very bad. I couldn't understand much. But one American student changed my life. He met me at a dancing party. He said, really, I want to show something for America. And he gave me his student exchange building address. I want to visit him and all foreign students and buildings and

have guard or Chinese students will have guards all buildings have guards security guards normally it's like a old lady or man retired watch everything a old lady or man retired, watch everything. So I had to go fill it up. Who I'm gonna visit? Time in, time out, what I'm gonna talk about, and where is my address, what major I have as college student.

So I went to his room. I still was gonna spy, and no idea what to expect. You know, something from Merkel, cool, awesome. And he actually showed me a pocket constitution. He said, have you heard of this? I said no. And he, I said my English is not good.

But he read to me, I remember, oh, I remember, my English is good enough to remember that all men are created equal. And I said, this is your funding document. What do you mean? And he told me that really, it doesn't matter, you are Chinese,, your woman, you have yellow skin. Say our founding fathers in America believe all humans are born equal and they are children of God. Your rights come from your Creator, not from any government.

You, by being you, have individual rights. I've never heard that before. I was getting emotional when I talk about this. I said, my life hopes come on. I say, I'll come back. I saw our talk was so fast-living. I say, I'll come back. And so I went back another time and

because my English just wasn't good enough. And then he went through a couple more with me, Bill of Rights. And I learned, hey, I have an individual right from first session. So second time when I go back to visit him, I did not register. I said, well, I have a right. I have a right to talk to this person. Why should I register, tell them what we're talking about, and let them to track me. I have some common sense that they don't want, they don't like this. I can't get into trouble by telling them what I'm talking about. So I basically just the lady has to go to the bathroom, poor tea, just watch out, right? When she's gone temporarily, I just tiptoe run up stairs.

And the tiptoe run down. It makes good movies up there. Yeah. And I just remember he told me all those rights, speech, religion, and press, a symbol name, and a second memory. I was very impressed. Really, really, you have this. Oh, I just saw this country is awesome. So, I still couldn't understand lots of stuff, and I just remember those rights. I say this country would be awesome for me to come someday, if I have to give up on China. He puts America into my head head and the individual rights will never go away. So that they come. I graduated. I wanted to think Shanghai is so bad because I don't want to go back to my home province. It's very isolated. Next to Tibet, it's

the foreign province. And not many foreigners there. Most important in Shanghai is international open commerce city, that you have more foreigners, you have more business, and of course, I wanted to stay in my same law school to teach. That's the only way I can stay in Shanghai. We do not have a job market. When you graduate, everybody gets a sign job. And I'm supposed to go back right confirm I had to make lots, lots of extra efforts to ask, please, please, can I stay in Shanghai? We were the first graduating class and the law school class.

So we had five positions out of 60 students. And I wanted to ask for one of them for B2 stay in Shanghai. And I think I might be the only one of the two students from outside Shanghai gave their job. Because most of them just maybe stay in Shanghai or something. But it takes extra effort. And so this is, well, you are very, very sociable. You have good personality.

Maybe you can stay in Shanghai, teach part-time and manage law firm on campus part-time. And because China was rebooting the economy and started to go international in 1985, under the opening up reform. So all the law school graduates naturally can practice law because we're so sure of people. Remember, colleges are closed under law. So we're the first graduate class. Remember, colleges are closed under Mao.

So we're the first graduate in class. Now in the party, we're required to have master degree of PhD to teach. So I was lucky to say, okay, with my bachelor degree, I can teach and I can be lawyer. And I loved my law firm job, because my academic dean is expert on international law. So he and I would go travel to some big companies to consult with them and I can be his assistant and also receive clients at our law firm on

campus. But my teaching job, I love the students but I had to be academically restricted. There's no academic freedom. You need to teach what is allowed on PC. So I was told that be careful with your students. My people don't understand China universities or schools. They need to understand now. We have two lines of super raging. So every department on campus has a Communist Party Committee and academic dean. And you have a president, chancellor of university. We have a party secretary. Who has more power, it's party secretary. So my department, you know, like a committee chair is very powerful. So we have to, in order to teach in law school, you must join the party. Otherwise, the question your loyalty. So I was put on probation status for a year on the party

to see how I behave, how I, you know, be politically correct. But as I said, because I was fighting with my Communist Party and committee boards to worry about my lifestyle. What is lifestyle? Anything you're doing with your personal freedom plan. It's lifestyle problem.

He always say I have lifestyle problem. It means I want to dance in parties with my friends, with my, even some of our students are like when you're, I mean, I was 21, right? 22, they're when you're younger. And then, and I was dating a boyfriend from Shanghai. And I was visiting his parents' home in Shanghai with his parents' invitation.

Even she's a bit with their daughter. And my party boss told me I have a lifestyle problem. I said, well, I said, Professor, what if your daughter is in out of state? You would love for her to have a host family to go to, have a home meal, because my family are so far away. And, but she said, you should not go to visit people's families, before you marry them. You know, like the Wednesday, like, bother you, what you do, you free time, and then what you teach in the classrooms. So, within the first year of my law school faculty member, I was fighting him. And and that's when I think I kind of decided, maybe China's not for me. I was not

happy. I was oppressed. And I cut my hair short. I wore suits all the time, tried to look more mature. And you see some pictures I took. I really was depressed, third time. And after I become assistant professor of prestigious law school in Shanghai, but so what? I wasn't happy. I was feeling oppressed. Can I imagine I go through my life like this for a risk my life? I just couldn't. My friends who

left China come to United States, mail me pictures. That was like an 86, 87 that time. I saw beautiful and American, you know, rural country, animals, and cows, and farms, and he said, my friend said, America was such a representative very well, because I'm happy and sociable, you know, very assertive, you should come here, because he can sense, I'm happy and sociable, you know, very assertive. I said, you should come here because he can sense, I'm already depressed at that time. So he encouraged me, so he just applied for some graduate school. So I started applying for graduate school. I quickly realized, if I want to come to America, I need to change my strategy right now because I need to get permission to quit my job. If you don't get permission to quit, you have to pay back all your past

years. And you need permission from your leaders to go apply for private passport Then I have to get a visa. So I said, oh, if I'm going to set my heart now to really escape China for good How I'm gonna get permission to leave if I keep Kind of fighting with my boss So I start to sell my lips go to political study meetings weekly and Speak up support the party because I used to sit on there just, and speak up, support the party, because I used to sit on there just quiet, and then they can tell me,

they can tell that I was challenging them in silence, by not saying anything, by looking at their face and looking to their eyes. So I have to change all that strategy to create a different kind of perception in order to leave. I got a, I met American professor on college campus and I asked him to sponsor me so I need to get out of China. Can you help me?

I need an American citizen who is willing to sponsor me because I don't have money, I don't have family and friends, how I'm gonna allow to even get an enrollment acceptance and without scholarship or without money help support myself. I Not like other Chinese students, they all come here study a math science engineer and they can get a scholarship. I Study law in China. I could not get into law school, so I just want to go to graduate school for any social study majors. And my English was bad.

So my sponsor actually told me, I will sponsor you, but also I get you help with the one graduate school, the dean was my next door neighbor. So next door neighbor was a dean of a school of social work in UT Austin, Texas. So I say, yes, please help. And my English is not good.

I cannot pass GRE. I can barely pass TOEF. TOEF was like an uniform student must pass the English task to be accepted by colleges. Okay. Yeah, so I got waived the GRE, which is a graduate school task. And to say, we'll waive that, and we'll ignore your Tofu exam. And I will be your sponsor, so you could go get a enrollment, notice, and get accepted.

Then when you apply for passport and visa, you also have to show all those financial paperwork. And so I want to, the passport local pre-station, same on times. Before I went that, I went to my party boss. I got accepted by a graduate school. Can I please quit my job and go to apply for my passport? He said, well, consider your performance in the past years

pretty good, but you still need to sign a agreement. He made me to sign a agreement to say, after you master degrees done, even on your own time, on your money, did not cost me more penny, you need to come home to serve your country. Okay. And, or if you don't come back,

there will be two consequences. Number one, we're gonna kick you out of CCP. I said, no problem. I was forced to join in order to have a teaching job in the school. Number two, it's kind of tough. Number two, they were sent my household registration person, I filed back to Chintu, back to Chintu,

where I grabbed my home towel, because Shanghai is the first tier city, Chintu is the second tier city, capital of Sichuan. To go from second tier to first tier city, it's very difficult even today. You're tracked by your household registration. If you don't have legal status, you would say you don't get benefits. So if they kick my file all back to Chengdu, that means if I feel in this country,

I do go back to China and I cannot go back to Shanghai. I have to go back to Chengdu to get a job there. And I hesitate for one minute. I sign it, say no problem. I will stick to the agreement. But in my heart, I say that I better make it. Otherwise, I have to go back, my hometown. Go back where I started.

And where I was born. And so then my sponsor named me money applied to have a visa and applied for graduate school and bought me an air ticket to fly to United States. I remember when I got visa after three tries and everybody was shaking hands with me and touched my hair because there were so many students lying up long line to give visa. Once you get a visa, they feel like you, one foot, it's already in the US. So they want to touch your hair and to feel the good luck, to give them

some good luck so they can get a visa next time. They said, oh, congratulations, touch my hair. Say, you went for the Missouri in the US and I was smiling too, I was so happy. So because all I need now is the air ticket. And of course, we have to go health screening, do whatever legal way required by the US and for student visa. And I flew for the first time, actually, flew home from Shanghai to Chengdu to see goodbye to my families, to say, you know, Dad, I don't worry about fantasies, I will get rich, I will help you pay off

for your debts, and my parents were in debt. That's why I had raised $100 for my friends. One dollar equal lots of Chinese yen. So it's like several friends, give me the money. I write down and I will pay you back with interest. I need the money, my parents have no money. I also raised money for my trip back home. First time take this airplane trip. The quicker I didn't have time. And my dad was crying, this is the second time

he lost his salary. He lost salary before. When you get paid, they give you cash, and somebody could rob you. And when you take a bus or something, and he was so afraid to tell my mom to say, I cannot tell you mom, she'll be so mad, she'll be so sick, she might pass out.

I said, don't worry, I will help. So I used some money I raised, gave to my dad and paid my own way back to Shanghai, raised more money. So by the time I come to the United States, 1988, May 11, I had $500, $5, $20 bills all borrowed. And later I discovered I was in the hole with my sponsor $1200 in debt to him, because he write down all the expenses for me to apply for graduate school, air tickets and all that, and I promised to pay him back. And I couldn't speak English. But when I arrived at Austin, Texas, after like two stopovers, one was in Japan. And the first time

I get out of China, like within like two hours, I was in Tokyo airport. It was like a totally different world. I just remember Japanese people were so polite and so clean there and constantly ball, you know, I was doing the same thing and I stopped by Denver. From Denver, I saw the Rocky Mountains so beautiful and the night flew over Austin, Texas and my sponsor and the picture you saw, my first day in America, the Austin Airport, with a huge big smile. And that was the one he took.

I'm very grateful he took there. Otherwise, I will have nothing to show for it. But I was so happy up to that day in my life. I will always call that, and that was my happy day in life, you know, up to that day, which is two months and before my 24th birthday. Wow. Now we can take a break. You want to take a break? Yeah. Just take a break. Yeah, take break, drink water, use bathroom and because now we're going to focus on what happens to me after I started my new life in this country, right?

Yep. And the same, so that was 34 years ago. So that's a long time. But first 20 years, I was just learning learning learning, I was not political. I was not totally awake. So that's the weak in the process, yeah. Did you know 75% of the human population struggles will sleep? I didn't know that, but I did know that I was one of that 75%.

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All right, Lily. We're back from the break. We just got to the part where you got to the US and you've been here for a little bit and But I wanted to ask a question. What was, if there was any, was there any propaganda, any negative propaganda toward the United States, so they were telling you about before you made the trip to Austin, Texas? When I was growing up as a child, of course, China was close to the world. So, every day, I think America, suppose to be an impure country. And I saw cartoons, I saw posters and on the walls and talk about defeat America imperialism all the time. Yeah. And of course, after China's opening up, and Americans started to build in China, foreign capitals coming,

and then, and that kind of demand and decision reduced. I remember my first American movie I watched, I liked very much, was translating to Chinese. It was like a gun with a wing. About the civil war. And Jiang Danver, I feel so sad when he died. He was singing all their country and folk songs and beautiful voice. Why would they let you come to the US if we're an impure country? Well, remember when China opening up and they started to allow exchange students' programs, so that four students are able to go to China and Chinese students were able to apply for schools in the US. That was the beginning of the international exchange programs.

But it was not easy. You had to apply, you had to get permission to leave. So as a result, there were also students' scholars who were sent overseas to study on government money. So some of those, we have to be careful. Some of those were tied to the CCP, work for the government. They went to universities, laboratories, and so we have to be careful with that. But at the beginning of the China was a folks on reboot economy. Because there were less folks on political ideology. And then Xiaoping said, no matter if you're black cat or white cat,

if you catch a mouse, you're a good cat. That means that some people get rich first. So my neighborhood, the first guy who ever left the stay factory job was a young man who said, I'm going to start a restaurant. And he was the first one got rich in my poor neighborhood. He worked day and night on his restaurant. He was the first one bought a motorcycle besides everybody was still riding bicycles. And they had to rebuild a little bit more modern housing for his parents in the countryside.

By the time I went to college, and he was the only one who had the money to give me a gift. A little pink, long-sleeved shirt. I wore that shirt because of brand new clothes I got and to walk into my college campus 1981. Oh, yes. I remember, I don't know where he is today. I'm going to lose in touch. But I remember that very, very well.

They brave entrepreneurs, Chinese, who left the government guarantee job to start their own business and they got rich quick because China was just wide open, no private entrepreneurs who were doing all kind of business. So that just picked up forever. Yes, yes. Which I support. I think people were tired of poverty, tired of starvation. So when people could start their own business, they want to keep more what they earned. And look, the results, you know, it just took off. Yeah. Well, I got some questions. There's been a, I have a lot of questions actually. And I know a little

bit about some of this stuff, but I would really like to get your perspective on it since you lived it. And so one thing that I've always been interested in hearing about is the social credit scores that's going on over there. Can you explain a little bit about what that is? So in my last part, one story I talked about, they tracked everybody from birth to death, right? My parents had to get permission to get married and once you get married you have to go to your local police station to register as a household formed and when you add each child you have to add a child

into their household registration and all the information is there. You get a little booklet. Okay, where you left, who you work for, and how many people in your household you get benefits with that. You open up bank account, you go to hospital, you go to schools, you get your coupons with that. And when you become individual, like in students, you get a student file tracking individual, when you become a worker, then you get a personal file and continue tracking you. So social credit system, supposed to be based on the traditional Chinese paper tracking, but now

is digitalized. They got, I guess, idea from a western's and fight car score, right? They give you score to see your financial status and your behaviors, if you're worth for the people to lend you money. So you can pin them back. They call the social credit because they discovered, wow, there's a big tech, so convenient to track people. Everybody got a cell phone.

If you just tie to their cell phone with everything they do, and they were tracking people anyway by the papers, but now it's so easy. You cannot delete anything once you track them by cell phone too, right? So they start the experiment in some big cities. I think now it's implemented all over the country. And they basically they used all different province and some created agencies by the provincial government.

And to develop a system to say that everything is on your cell phone. So social credit not just about your financial behavior anymore. Like your own money, did you pay back on time? You own somebody's stuff, did you pay your mortgage on time? Now social credit means how many Facebook groups, not Facebook, China, don't use Facebook, band, how many online groups you have? What did you say online? And did you say anything anti-government? Did you friends say anything anti-government in those groups on WeChat? So you are judged not just by your own speeches, behaviors, but you also are judged by the

social networks. You belong to, let's say you belong to 50 WHA groups and some of those group members say something not politically correct, needs to be censored, that can affect your score. to be censored, that can affect your score. And also they put everything on your phone to like, let's see, normally they start with when everybody gets 1,000 points, right? Yeah. Everybody hold on. Everybody starts with what?

With 1,000 points. 1,000 points. Yeah, that's a starting point So if you behave everyone you share you study Chairman she's read app and you see something you share something that's good. They want you to share You get points and you you you you don't own any debt and you can't play with everything. And the once you can get a bad point is, okay, you owe lots of that, you don't pay back. So you finish your situation, create it's bad. And you see something, they don't think it's right. Is there on social media, on your

phone, everything is done on your phone always apps and stuff and watch your share and let's say if they catch you going to church you're not supposed to go to church and because the church is the sectioned you have to go to Chinese state permitted churches. If you get caught go to other places like like home churches, which is banned, then you get a reduced point. And once you get points getting so low, like you get no 600 or something, then when you credit, you choose your credit score so low, delight, you cannot travel, cannot borrow money to buy anything. Your kids can be affected by you, credit score cannot go to the best school possible, cannot get promotion, cannot get mortgage, a business loans. So everything is a political

size. It's just a lot more than fake school now. So I say that's so done. You're with COVID right now. Everybody has a QR code on the phone. So when they want to find out what your status by testing your everyday, right? It's cold has to stay green color. So if you go to get tested, they say, well, we test you and your cold is red or orange. You lose your freedom. You cannot go up. Wow. So, you see that you lose your freedom. You cannot go up. So you have to go swipe it. You have to go swipe and you phone app and QR code, stay green. You can have your permitted freedom. That's why you see the big cities now, or go nuts.

Used to be bustling, busy cities, people have more small business going to restaurant to eat and movie theaters and shopping I just saw a video last night about Sun Zhen which is like a One of the most open international Special economic zone city in central next to Hong Kong It's like a ghost town. Very few people outside shopping, dining, or there's a house stuck inside. There's a long line testing.

Call me 19 testing. And my friend in Chengdu just said, oh, I was a house quarantine for five days. I had to learn how to cook, because he used to run on his wife to cook. A happened to be his wife was traveling somewhere else in a hotel. And he was quarantined, could not go on for five days,

because one positive cases in his district, everybody's getting locked up. So he said, oh, I cooked some simple meals. She was pictures. She said, five days, five days, I cooked some simple meals. She was pictures. She said, five days, five days. I was going crazy. He said, and it's like I could teach some classes. And I, otherwise, I don't know what I'm going to do.

Because five days by yourself at home, and you couldn't go out, you had to cook something. But in Shanghai, my friends were locked down for 10 weeks. They run out of food to cook. They are in government to deliver your food. And there was corruption, high prices. So they were hungry. They had money.

They had retired lawyers. They were hungry. And so I'm just afraid, see, this kind of system already affected leaders in the free world. Did you say, Max and Passport? Yes, similar to China's social credit system, tracking people, and you saw right now, ESG score, have you heard about ESG score,

environmental, social, governance score, which is adopted by an SP 500 global reading agency to rate cities, state government, private corporations, public trade corporations, your score based on climate change. Like let's say Utah state, the state traders say that my state is financially responsible, but we got not so good ESG score because they judge you by climate change standards. How many companies you have in terms of renewable energies? How many of you guess companies you have in terms of renewable energies? How many of you guess companies you have in your state? It's political size.

You have to comply with the narratives with this kind of, I call it almost like a new agenda, global agenda, make you compliant, affect our supposed to be financial market, capital market, like it learns, develops something from China's social credit system. So long term, if you think about it, they can do this to our state cities and public trade companies, and they're gonna tell you small business or their private company business, and they're gonna tell you individuals later. Everything subject to permission and license

from the government on politics, they're pretty good talking points. So everybody got to comply and totally lie. Otherwise, get canceled. Look what they're comply and totally lie. Otherwise, get a cancel. Look what they're doing now. Kassling media, like comedians shows. You have to say the right word. You get censored words. That's exactly what happened, right? In under Mao, words are censored. Scientists, artists, musicians all have to be careful to be peaceful. Then you're still. Is that time with the camera systems as well? Are there in one podcast or, I think it was a podcast,

I heard you mentioned that there is one camera for every two citizens in China, with facial recognition technology. Yes, they use this Western technology to make lots of lots of facial recognition cameras. So you can have millions of people walking in the city. Everywhere you go, it has facial recognition cameras. And also, equipments to recognize your voice.

When you go apply for a new cell phone in China, you scan your face, and you record your voice. So, everything that on your cell phone later is tied to that. There's no privacy, you cannot go hiding. As foreigners, when you go to China, maybe when you go to a custom foreigners, when you go to China, when you maybe when you go to Custom and now you know why Olympics athletes, when they want to

China, they will recommend it. Don't take yourself off. Take a, like cheap one time disposable use phone. A burner phone. Burn a phone or even laptop so that you don't have something and get it installed and then start to track, monitor everything going on in the phone. It's a totally severe state. They don't think we deserve any kind of privacy. And I read this funny joke, one government official used his phone to pay for

a prostitute because he immediately arrested. It's like, how stupid are you? You don't know how they opposite? They also trying to get rid of cash. In China now, you banking record, you bank account, everything is connected with app on your phone. So when you use your phone to pay for stuff, it's all tracked. Well, they're doing that here now too. I mean, what was the, they just came out with, I can't remember the dollar amount, but I think it's if you have, is it if you spend more than, I can't remember the dollar amount, but I think it's if you have, is it if you spend more than I can't remember the amount? What?

If you spend more than, or if you have a certain amount in your bank account, then the government tracks, do you remember the number? Remember, it used to be 5,000. It used to be 10,000 dollars. It's 500 dollars. Now it's like a, it become like 5,000. I even don't000 dollars 500 dollars now it's like a you become like 5,000 I even don't know what is the current number now um

That's why the Big banking Subject to government regulations in the name of or remember used to be in the name of anti And Thirdism wall right, mm-hmm. They gonna track everything. You think every cash you withdraw on cash could be potentially drug money, you take, or you deposit. And I was told by my bank, a few years ago in Colorado,

anything over $5,000, and the end of the day, they sent all their records from the bank to this government source. Yeah. A site. And that's why you know why people like crypto currency, right? Well, China man, that too, correct? Well, they don't want competition. They want their own cryptocurrency.

China trying to promote one. And you did not take off, and they banned Bitcoin, they banned lots of crypto, but still, they just created black market. People still use that, because lots of Chinese, we also see Chinese today, their money is a stock in China. So how do they get them out? So sometimes they have to figure out creative way, or private way, so they look at blockchain technology.

And they also look at offshore and business accounts. Like that's why, you know, Hong Kong, they just took over Hong Kong. And because actually lots of businesses use Hong Kong at that time to do business and to also watch money and but now they all have to you know really and keep their head down. When you talk about public facial recognition camera, I remember the goal is to have 600 million public facial recognition cameras throughout the whole China. 600 million. Yeah.

We have 1.4 billion Chinese. China has 1.4 billion Chinese. United States, think about, we have like a 300, what? 330 million people. Yeah. Is that scary number to even think about it? And the voice recording. I don't know how people feel.

And if you go to Hong Kong now, because Hong Kong lost to China control, as a foreigner, you go to Hong Kong because they impose national security law to Hong Kong. So if you have American passport, but you go there, say something, it's a threat to CCP. In the name of national security north, they can arrest you, lock you up. I guess I won't be visiting China anytime soon. Or you have to be careful what you say. I've already said it enough. Do you think they're trying to do that with the entire world and that's what the TikTok

thing is? I mean, the TikTok, TikTok is basically, it's essentially an enormous Chinese spy operation. People have to understand how China's system works. China is one party dictatorship, the largest totalitarian regime in the whole world. And if a company gets that big, right? And Chinese entrepreneurs are pretty smart. They created lots of good products. But there's one saying they can escape. China's

national security law. One party dictatorship. Any company in China is subject to the one party rule. TikTok on your kids' apps and have all the data. If the Chinese government sees it piece up, I need all of you to use this data. They have to turn over. They are not like us. I want to protect the privacy. I cannot turn that over to you. The government always trying to get data on private citizens. But in China, you have no choice. All you lose your business, you get shut down. You know, being in this pier, or, you know,

forced to leave their positions, retire earlier, and force them to give to charities all the time, you know. And you also saw how dangerous this is. Yes, you saw what happened to trucker freedom in Canada Trudeau they There are a lot from Chinese Communist Party So they Shut down people's bank account if you are trucker you don't want to complain to

Vaccine mandate vaccine passport you cannot withdraw money. And look what's going on in China today. That because the real estate bubbles started burst. People who were paying for mortgages have not got their house built yet, their apartment built. And after they locked down, they went to bank, to get the money out.

Bank run? No, you cannot with your money. So people start protesting and they get beat up in her line province. There are some other cities. Now it's going to move and more cities. People come out to say, we stop paying for mortgages. We have not got our apartment, supposed to be built, and some company only went bankrupt,

but we're never built, we start paying for mortgages. And so because people cannot get the money from their bank, I mean, how do they, I mean, they did the money to live. So they all just, also just start paying for mortgages. So hey, I cannot even afford food and rent. Why should I pay for mortgages, so hey, I cannot even afford food. Why should I pay for mortgages? You will never deliver.

I think the Chinese economy right now could have financial, or is already having the financial crisis. But you don't hear that. They want to censor that information. Remember, they control all the media. and they don't talk about it. Yeah. And China's debt is very high, like 250% of their GDP. Their economy is big, supposed to be if their number is even trustworthy, $18.20 GDP. Then 250% of GDP is their debt. But also, the private citizens' money departed. It's lots of their cash and banks' assets.

But now, people stop paying for mortgages. How is this going to collapse China, economy CCP and affect the world, financial market? And economy because unfortunately so many people today still rely on China for the supply chains. You can take the whole world does. Yeah, the whole world does. It's like when you want to section Putin, but you rely on Putin for oil, for lots of supplies, and for even food, and fertilizer from your quain, of course, you're going to suffer consequences. So, I have been calling out that the free world countries

have been infiltrated by CCP. They have spent lots of money through their United Front, which Chinese is called Tong Zhan Bu. United Front overseed branch to get money into a Confucius Institute, into our schools and colleges for past 18 years. I think the last one just finished in New Hampshire. But now the Confucius Institute, funded by CCP, is a Chinese name to very good name, called the Chinese International Education Foundation.

Really? Yes. And so that way they can use that to fund money into our colleges and still continue to push for their agenda in, you know, indoctrically our students, not just Chinese students coming here to study, have university exchange programs and, you know, even Harvard, you know, like the, I mean lots of private university, lots of private diversity, got lots of money from China in the past and failed to report to our, the federal government Department of Education

is supposed to disclose that. So. Well, there's setting up these companies all over the world that it's, you know. They bought lots of companies during COVID too. There's setting up companies all over the world. They pay the company and then the company donates the money to the school or the business or whatever.

So it's not. We need to follow the money. You are right. Follow the money. It's dark money called a dark money funneled into our schools, land profit, monetization, government, even interfere with our elections. I don't know if people noticed that last year when Chinese professor was speaking

Mandarin, he was bragging about interference into US elections. He said, wait, wait, let me see Chinese government, we could not fix Trump, but now we have the friends in the highest US government, and that video got took down immediately, but lots of people like a Charlotte, recorded and keep the record, so that shows you where there's stand. They can buy companies, they can invest in your own local economy, credit jobs, by land, they're trying to buy land and build an infrastructure for every cultural business in North Dakota right now, near Grand Fork, our military base. And I was under North Dakota TV to say, no, don't do it. You need absolutely

opposed this. And the Senator Cotton has a bill to ban Chinese firms tied to CCP from by inland in America. I agree. I support that. You know why as foreigners, as Chinese citizens in China, you are forbidden to buy land. Per Constitution of China, land belongs to the state. They call to balance the people, the people of the state, whoever has power. So you foreign conflicts, foreign nerds, and Chinese citizens all cannot buy land. Why are we so naive, let them come here, oh Chinese firms come here to buy business, buy company, and set up the buildings. And we just shut down by FBI quietly in our capital.

They could use Huawei, they very advanced seven-inch equipment to actually spy on our capital and our politicians, the military and the communication network. We have been very, very naive and also people thought, hey China economy is good now, maybe we just keep doing business with them, and they would become like us, a Democrat country. The opposite has happened.

Yeah. Yeah, very dangerous. Let's talk about some of the concentration camps over there, and I heard you mentioned organ harvesting as well. How common is organ harvesting? Well, I left China in 1988. In the 90s, my dad even told me, there's this massive meditation practice called Qi Gong,

later called the Falun Gong. Falun Gong, basically, it's a kind of branch of Buddhist movement to meditate. So it's a health practice. You say that you meditate, you know, kind of similar to yoga, but it's more traditional Chinese style and for a long time you meditate. It's very good for health reasons. Some people cannot cure their health issues except doing this.

So at the beginning, the government promoted, because lots of people, companies, party members also benefit from this practice and got cured. And, but they had like one time 100 million members. And Chinese Communist Party only had like 90 million members. So they were huge. So one time their member was falsely arrested. So the Falun Gong practitioners went to Beijing,

near the compound of all the officials, just sit down there, meditate, and kind of like a peaceful protest. Jiang Zemin was the president at that time. And he saw that as absolutely threat to the power, dominant power of CCP. So he banned it. Once he banned it in the 1999, so let me say anybody who practiced that gets arrested and asked him when many people got arrested and disappeared into the dark presence and without due process.

How many people? A million. A million? Yes. Without due process. For meditating. For meditating. For practice. This is a fun and go.

And they are very healthy people. Because, you know, this is good for your health to practice this. I heard that I was already in this country. I had to learn about that. And I heard of I was already in this country. I had to learn about that. And I heard of Southern China, and was accused to use their organs, were still their life. Because Chinese culture do not encourage people to donate organs. They want to die as a whole body. And there's no cultural tradition of,

oh, I'm going to donate my organs to save another life. But now you can go to China. There's phone conversations and records and test money to show. You can get a liver. You can get a kidney for about $170, $180 thousand dollars per each and waiting for three weeks. Three weeks? They're fresh, very fresh.

And whistleblower started to tell people when they come out to say, I was forced to take organs, I couldn't do it. I escaped. And the United Nations were urged to investigate China and delay it. And some Western countries, like I think of European countries, like Gryparet and maybe Canada all condemned it. And forbid that their organ tourists go to China

to schedule for organ transplant surgery because they say that's crime against humanity. I was just in DC in mid of July. I marched with the Faluncom practitioners, 2,000 of them at the capital. Every year, on June, I think July 20th, it's their anniversary to be banned and they were protested here. And there were so decent people. They were meditated, they were marched, and they were hold of signs to, you know, against this crime against humanity, stop organ harvesting. I think we need to really come out strongly, support the people.

They're based in New York, but they go to DC and they protest every year. Whose organs are they harvesting? They follow-on practitioners. They're healthy. I saw some pictures that they were given, you ejection, like if you were in the prison, they gave you ejection, where you were kind of passed out and they take your organs and take

your cornea from your eyes. So they're taking it from prisoners? Yes, and they die, and they die. And here's another saying, I mean. And just for the record, prison in China doesn't necessarily mean you're some type of a felon. No, those are felon.

You could have a, maybe a low social credit score. But they're felon-gong practitioners. That means they're prisoners of conscious because their religious belief and their practice, meditation. that means they are prisoners of conscious, because they are religious, belief, and the practice, meditation. So there's no trial, no due process. You don't know who is the prison. So they go there, keep them, and they test them.

They keep track of their health. And when they meet your organs, and you have a match, then you get to choose and pick, and match, then you get the chosen pick and basically murder you for organs. Some people say the Xinjiang, like a Wiggar's cultural genocide is going on. Maybe they are also, if they run out of foreign practitioners, they might have to look at the cultural genocide, Xinjiang, Wiggar people who got arrested in the presence.

Maybe they could be also the target. The Sen-Yi's China is one of the five security council of United Nations and the Council of Human Rights Council, no investigations. And I think that the Western free world countries really need to come out strongly to condemn this. And also tie that human rights violations abuses with our trade deals with China. I'm just worried.

I want to warn our business people. Think about what is long-term consequences of you just focus on profit money making inside the child market Remember learning said let's deal with capitalists. Let let them make a rope sell to us Who buy rope from them? But we will use the same ropes to hand them later. Yeah. So we need to give me why should the way continue to do business with a country like that?

I'm calling for decoupling from a PRC market. If you're still doing business buying from them, it's time to evaluate your options. Of course, as our country needed to bring our manufacturer homes back here, cut regulations, cut taxes, to give incentive for business people to manufacture products here, to provide services here. But if you cannot compete, you have so much government rate tapes and control and high regulations, climate change. That's why gas prices are so high. You know, we have to buy

from other countries, inflation is high. And there are so many things that it's caused unnecessarily by our bad Democrat-controlled government policies. That so we ran on China. We ran out of Middle East for all you. And ran out of Russia. I mean, European's favor to ran out of Russia. And doing business with those not friendly countries were hurting ourselves. Were hurting our national security,

because you cannot even negotiate from the position of strength. We're so weak as a country right now, in the eyes, China's laughing at us. That's why they can threaten us, and they can threaten us in Pelosi to go to Taiwan. Let unenacted, topality terror regime to threaten democratic elected, our representatives.

Is this a wake-up call? We should have wake up earlier, long time ago. Instead of right now Biden is awake. So he's already talking about, you know, medical of lots of tariffs. And because, you know, we need China for lots of products and stuff. It's time to decouple from China's economy. If they don't threaten us like this, eventually they are going to use force to take Taiwan. They will not even care what we stand as the US government, as people of the US. So we

have to really take this very seriously. China is our biggest national security threat right now. Not Russia. What do you think? Why do you think, excuse me, why do you think China is 100% behind Russia right now? Because they hear the similar ideologies. Remember Suo Man Suo's union was a communist, Bolshevik country, and China has been always controlled by one party dictatorship. They have a more common ground than China with western countries with US, democracy,

freedom, personal liberties, they hate that. It's like, oh, you can let your citizens, individual citizens have right to vote and right to criticize government and right to do like their business without our control, without you know, complying with our laws, you are threat to us. It's all about their power, their control. That's what Communists do. They don't value individual rights, freedom, liberty, and private property. So all they kept to this, want to sell China something? Now it's time to question long-term what's going to happen

if you continue to do this without hold China accountable for their human rights abuses. No, they can't just threaten United States whenever they want to. They were threatened to shut down Pelosi's airplane. What are they going to do next? What if they really take Taiwan out already ready to have the free world? Totally shut down China's economy because they don't use force.

Attack Taiwan. A truly democratic country. They might say, oh Taiwan is part of us. Well, that's what they say. Well, that's why US has been very, very ambiguous about, oh, we have one child policy, and we also will back Taiwan. So that's like since 1979,

Carter administration threw Taiwan under the bus, made a deal with communist China. That's what we are today. But our elected officials can go to Taiwan, can talk to them, can call, can do business, and they can, if they want to, whatever they call it, maintain status quo, but we need to morally stand up for Taiwan. We need a military, sending whatever equipment the need. And they need to hurry up. I heard some deals got delayed by Biden administration. And Taiwan is under arrest right now. So we need to do lessons, right? If you don't deal with China, then how do you do economic sections against China if they

invade Taiwan? Why are we still allowing Chinese big firms come to Wall Street? And you know, you take advantage of our free market and capital investment. Lots of dollars, lots of dollars, in customer pension funds in the United States, invest in China, maybe managed by BlackRock, very big in China. And so we need to look at all expect right now, re-evaluate what we have been doing in the past, like a 20-something years since China joined WTO,

the World Trade Organization. What is, what do you think China's endgame is? What is their goal? Is it world domination? Yes. Is that what it is? It's called Xi Jinping's Chinese dream. He called that Chinese dream.

It's not Chinese people's dream. Chinese people are the biggest victims of their own regime in government. They're not treated as human beings. So Chinese dream is a CCP Xi Jinping dream. By 2049, it's on their agenda. PRC will become the dominant power economically, largest economy in the world. There are second largest right now after US, ministerially, and politically. That's why they use the Silk Road initiative,

when Bill went road building stouters, international debt trap investing in developing countries. I went to South Africa 2018, and as soon as they get off the major airport, a big sign, back of China, these African people to prosperity. And they gave money as long to Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka and the other Bangkok's rights come. They took over the Sri Lanka's airport

once they stopped paying the debt. they could not make the payment. China took over G-Budy, Africa country as a military base there because they also use the Sok and Road initiative. People start to wake up to say maybe this is debt trap, in a very, very good interest, low interest long to big infrastructure projects But as soon as you cannot pay Let's take over you lose power to negotiate and guess lots of those governments anyway Croppings everywhere. I mean For the goal to be global domination, they're doing a pretty damn good job

and they're doing everything that they should be doing. And they're gonna take it without firing a shot. And they're doing breaks now. So breaks, like the Western countries have like a G7, right? And they want to their own, like a alliance. So used to be the, you know be the breaks and the name is like I think India, China, Russia and some countries in it. Now they can expand it. They just talk to North Korea and Iran and all those not friendly countries with US

to invite them to join China's Brexit alliance. So we have to be very smart about what we're doing before it's too late. And they are communist, people might be like, if to think after falling of Berlin war, that, oh, communists took a pause, took a break. No. China's communists learned from that. They do not want what happened to the collapse of the Soviet Union happened to them. So they are very, very savvy in terms of how we are going to maintain power, influence, control in the world. There are people hungry starving, but they spend lots of money overseas and to formalizes, to buy foreign companies, foreign government corporations, even youtubers influencers, they created those youtubers who can make China look wonderful. There are some, all of the world, you can tell the public money from China and they told to their narratives.

And I watch both because even in also Mandarin Chinese, so I get to know what they're talking about. What is their argument? And guess what? They bought AMC. Our movie theater chain owned by Chinese firm. All the newspapers in this country, Chinese Mandarin newspapers, they were the big shareholders, Chinese or not, how many of them interview me except until DTV and the Epoch Times. Those are the media empire started by foreign

government practitioners, their anti CCP. All the rest, they don-CCP, all the rest. They don't interview me. I am the only Republican candidate in the whole country right now for Congress, born and erased in Communist China. Well, earlier today off camera, you mentioned that the CCP has been in contact with you. It's threatened you What how are they contacting you? What are they threatening you are? Well, I wanted to I wanted to actually go back to China with my family friends

2019 I Single-day discovery me right before my trip from social media on Facebook. I post some saying people like share a lot. I talk about, you know, I came to this country with nothing, now I'm an American dream, and I fled to tyranny and poverty, come here. I was educator. I'm still on the speaker bureau of VLC, victims of communism and moral foundation based in DC, to educate our kids in middle school, high school colleges. And I also go to lung partisan organizations, grassroots,

and to speak about my personal experience, horrors of communism, socialism, because I discovered they need the ironists like me to go. And they discover me because my speaking for past five years, as an educator speaker, I have lots of followers. So when I post something, it gets shared like a lot. And they discovers me.

And then they started to come on to attack me, choke me, and threaten me, and 2015. I had my AR-15 picture, front of US flag. That picture was seen by 1.3 million people on social media online. I want people, like, want people, the largest killer, the champion of mass killer is always a tyrannical government. Look what happened, Kemen Square.

And I got threatened. They even threatened my children. And I think the threat come come I think at that time was overseer something. So I totally glow that. But how did they threaten you? What did they say? Oh, most of them you say, oh, you look so scary by holding down that air 15. And one guy later my husband found out he was based in UK and he said watch out lady like I'm going to use that to like what you call the crush you daughter's head or something my children my daughter and so how do you know that's CCP I don't know I don't know, I don't know that.

So we let that go because there was 2015 one gun picture, right? My AR-15 picture talk about but the CCP spies everywhere in the world, not just in the US, in free world, all over. And my husband did a call, we did a call FBI and then said, oh, don't worry, it's like a trace to somebody in the UK. We also reported to Facebook. Then 2019, there were long stop. Like 12 of them, some dressed, some is white,

some is Chinese, some is Indian looking, and they threatened me in both Chinese and English. Bad English, and they copy paste, copy paste. Call me all kind of bad names. Call me say agent, trader, you know, like a yellow dog, and don't you ever want to come back to China or to Asia? It's like they own the Asia now. I cannot even go to maybe Thailand or something.

Whenever they have a treaty, then they can use national security law and you know, like whoever they want, you know, this foreign country has to, you know, send the people they want back to China. So I had to cancel my trip. And most recently, this February, I was already running as a congressional candidate. I launched in January. I put on social media. I'm going to speak I put on social media, I'm going to speak in cash content of Utah as a keynote speaker for Republican

committee, 250 people, Republicans came to listen to my talk. And one Chinese by show that out of 200 people, nobody knew who he was. A Chinese man in his services, come to tape my whole fame, paid $75 for the dinner and event. And then tell people at the table, you all been brainwashed by her. Our leaders are fathers. They're a lot like the United States elected by the people that left, never say hi to to me. And people saw that was strange art. So they told me about it.

And Fengjiang, that's the name. And they have his email address. And on the way drive to the speaking side in Salt Lake City, I saw one school had signed their Confucius Institute. That means there are people are there nearby. So they saw me, trolling me on my social media. Oh, I'm going to speak there. Here's where you can register, pay money, and come.

And he come. So that's why now, from now on, I don't put my location on social media. And when I want to call a phonya speak to the, at the memorial for June 4th, him in square massacre, they hired a security guard for the event. And because, you know, as somebody from New Hampshire, we have considered carrying New Hampshire,

but I cannot do anything when I go to other, you know, and stay big blue states and cities, you know. And so I'm telling people, because my unique voice and my stories, I can make impact in this country. And I cannot be corrupted. I will tell the truth. That's why I got lots of attacks. And not just CCP. Maybe they will find no money attacks through my opponents in this race. And but I said, well, I survived a mouse-catch of revolution. I will survive everything. Liberty is my north star. I will do whatever I can to tell my stories. I cannot be silenced. I cannot

live in fear. You know, Lily, we covered a lot of ground and I want to start to wrap this up. But You know, we covered a lot of ground and I want to start to wrap this up, but one of my biggest fears is that China has over 3,000 years of archived records, wisdom to pull from. We have less than 250 years of wisdom to pull from. And I, you know, if you look at it that way, the odds aren't great when you have 3,000 years of knowledge to draw from who's compared to what we have, 250. What's it gonna take for us to pull away from this, and to get out, and to get out from under

the China influence? I am kind of terrified for our country and I have been educated for five years to see how the Marxist indoctrination happening in our schools, and I'm a very starch supporter of school choice, education of freedom account, and the parental rights and parental control. I've been telling people that what is going on today in America? I call that Neil Marx's cultural revolution, I saw in China. There are lots of, I categorized 12 tactics and similarities between the one I survived and the current ones happening in the USA.

But of course, it's a lot more scale. It's in selective places, but in terms of massive student-induct relation that are happening regardless, you live in red state, blue state, public schools. Why should the people wake up to ask why their parents lost control of whether kids are taught in schools? Why our teachers today are almost like a trend? Social justice lawyers want to foster your kids through the critical race theory, about 1619 projects, about social emotional learning,

about transgender ideology and to our kids. And if we as parents feel passionate against that and speak up at the school board meetings, then you got a federal government, could target you as a potential domestic tourist. Are you kidding me? Parents who love their kids who don't want to this kind of crap to indoctrinate their kids. I feel terrified because I see this similarity. For example, I feel terrified because I see this similarity. For example, five red causes, five black causes, under a pressure oppressed happening here.

There's a whole bunch of categories by some federal agencies now. If you dig into it by whistleblowers, whistleblowers, what kind of groups are oppressors? What kind of groups are under oppressed? It's scary, similar. Your white male, your bone resist. So you're born by association, you're born guilty by something you cannot control, and

you're guilty by something you said you did many years ago They're gonna cancel you like lots of people lose jobs and careers business because what they said done in the past I don't know What else can come back to bite you like they can dig into 20 years ago? But they're so righteous and And I was called having extremism in New Hampshire after my first debate. And then New Hampshire Democrats tweeted, the grandest dealers in New Hampshire were reject my extremism.

What is my extremism? I love America. I live in American dream. I don't want in duck tradition or schools. I do not think America is a systemic racist country. I believe in civil rights movement have come in long way. I love people to be united and to be like all creative equal. I'm a people of color, minority, business, woman, and just love this country. I want to tell my stories, but I'm extremist. So if you don't believe the government and create a massive dependency on government, I use taxpayer payers money to fund all those big government projects, including all the government schooling without parental,

you know, unconsent and control, I'm extremist. I have state conservatives, got shutdown, churches closed, and people are afraid to speak up. I have Democrats who write it to me, anonymous, they to say, Lily, thank you for what you're doing. And we will vote, but we're afraid to speak up right now. We will lose our job, we will lose our careers.

How many good teachers trapped inside of our schools, but afraid they work activists? Look at our military people are being fired because they could not get religious exemptions, vaccine mandates. And they're trying to offer, army trying to offer $50,000, sign up bonus for six years service. But you have to get vaccinated. You tax pay money to offer people, lots of young people I met, they don't want to join because they're mandate, because they're political science army.

So we are hurting our recruitment goal, we're hurting our redness, China's life into the bank. Yes, our military is all folks on social issues, but not the written. And our federal agencies are still on people's side, are they still swear to defend our constitution, right? And our politicians who are so divisive. And our people, lots of them don't know what's happening in China, what's happening in this country, what's happening in history, what's happening in Venezuela. I just made a Uber driver last night, dropped me off at my hotel set, Lillian from Venezuela, my family, or Hungary stuck there. I've been here. I'm legal here for four years now and I love America. I'm like you. I'm worried about America. Why are they all using similar tactics and terms?

Here, equity, for example, is communist term. Equal outcome. But the corporation trainings, called the less-wise trainings, DEI, DEI, diversity, equity, and including trainings, all talk about equity. But the only talk about equity of skin color, of race and skin, but they don't want diversity for ideas, personality, skills, talents.

Most important diversity in my mind is actually diverse ideas, thoughts, voices, and problem solving solutions. No, they don't talk about that. You have to tell the left line. I'm just worried about this country is becoming more and more like the country left. But I have a face in American people. I have a face in our constitutional republic that if people wake up, if people get to the truth and they will be a massive walking away from that kind of far right far left far radical ideologies. And we don't want to go down the socialist path, but there are 100 members of progressive caucus people in the US Congress right now. I would be a lumber when I get into Congress like you'll see right?

I mean, it's more than just quarter, like 100 of them. And they all want socialist policies. And my Democrat opponent, a Congresswoman, Custer, has been there for 10 years. She votes for those policies. She votes for them. And talked about equality all the time. You cannot have equal outcome without doing socialism

and communism, which is used government force to rate distributed wealth, period. So we should not even use that term, but everybody's product use that term from the left side. It really scares me and other immigrants to say, what's going on in America? It's really, I just tell them, please, if you have good immigrate story, share that with me on my YouTube channel. We need more and more immigrates.

Stand up, speak up to save our country now from this taking over destruction of far left, socialist policies, ideologies. Otherwise, we have no place to go. This is our new country. Yeah. Well, how do people find you? They can go to my website,

and lilytangwiniams.com. I have a lot of interviews like this. My published articles, endorsements, on there. And if all the grassroots people could donate 20 bucks and 10 bucks each hour pretty precious, I'm a grassroots candidate. I'm not establishment candidate. So I'm always in my primary and primary September 13th.

And I call my campaign is truly a grassroots movement, almost like a pop in this movement for life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. And because we are human beings as individual person. And I am a social media, Facebook page, Liddy for Congress, among media, Facebook page, a little for Congress, I'm on Twitter, I'm on Instagram, I have YouTube channel,

English and Mandarin Chinese. I'm a very, very large supporter of all constitutional rights. I'm especially a second amendment, I'm the long compromised candidate. Without our second amendment rights, we cannot defend our other right at all. And so I hope people will support me and donate to my campaign.

If you're in New Hampshire, please also volunteer and share my messages, share my interviews, and walk on the one this is not about me. This is about our liberty, our American dream, at a stake. Well, I just wanna wish you the best of luck and thank you for coming on. Well, thank you for having me. I appreciate it. You're welcome.

We'll be watching. Yes, please, I got it's good since I come to this country. So I believe that ultimately, goodness will prevail. Liberty will prevail. And the world population who love freedom and love, democracy will prevail in this world. All right. Thank you.

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