Shawn Ryan Show - #47 The Canadian Gov does NOT want you to see this. / Special Ops Sniper Refuses COVID Vaccine, Gets Fired

Episode Date: February 13, 2023

What happens when the fabric of a Tier 1 unit is challenged by a global pandemic, mandates & lockdowns? What does standing up for what you believe in look like? Find out in this episode. This episode ...has been censored at the request of the Canadian Special Operations Forces Command & the National Defence Headquarters by way of a Cease and Desist order. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://hvmn.com - USE CODE "SHAWN" https://mudwtr.com/shawn - USE CODE "SHAWNMUD" https://drinkhoist.com - USE CODE "SHAWN" https://blackbuffalo.com Dallas Alexander Links: Website | Spotify | TikTok | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram Please leave us a review on Apple & Spotify Podcasts. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website | Patreon | TikTok | Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 Stuck up on all your summer favorites that could only come from HB. To Texas with Love. Hey everybody, welcome back to the show. Let's go ahead and address the elephant in the room. So I've got a ton of messages emails DMs calls on what happened to the last episode Dallas, Alexander the Canadian special ops
Starting point is 00:01:21 sniper who is on the team that took the world record for the farthest sniper kill of all time. Here's what happened. I received a cease and desist from Dallas's former unit and they are basically saying that I need to pull all the episodes because there may be sensitive content within the episode. So I'm trying to do what's best for everybody here, okay? If there is sensitive information within that episode, I am not going to be the guy to jeopardize any of the operators within that unit or anything that may compromise that unit as a whole. They are an allied unit to the United States. I've worked with them.
Starting point is 00:02:17 There are awesome bunch of guys over there. what I find ironic is Dallas has a legitimate concern that he is being silenced by his former unit because he was fired for not taking the COVID-19 vaccine or complying with mask mandates. Now I hope that's not what this is about, but if this episode disappears, you know exactly what it was. So we pulled that episode, we're going to work with that unit and hopefully re-release the beginning portion of that episode. The other thing that I've done is I have pulled all operational content out of the episodes so there is absolutely nothing in there that could be considered classified or
Starting point is 00:03:15 sensitive content So if it gets pulled you know what it was. He's being silenced. Now, the other thing that I find ironic about this sensitive subject is, one, Dallas assured me that he had cleared everything with the people at that command before he came on the show. Secondly, what I find ironic is, there was a press release
Starting point is 00:03:45 done giving up the location of those operators who were on that sniper team and took the shot when they killed that man before they were even gone from the site. So they compromised the sniper team's location before they even left. Now I don't know what could be more sensitive than the actual operator's location on site after they took out an ISIS fighter, but I'm going to go with the benefit of the doubt here and I'm going to hope that that's all this is. So anyways, there are a lot of people out there these days who claim to be patriots because
Starting point is 00:04:32 they voted for a certain way or they watch a certain news channel. It used to mean something to be a patriot. Now Dallas is trying to get his story out and what he's talking about on here is how he left that unit, which I won't mention the name of the unit because it might be classified but he's trying to get a story out on why he was fired from that unit and so if you're going to call yourself a patriot then I suggest you share this episode with everyone you know, that's the toll I'm gonna ask. Share this episode with everyone you know. Please give us a like, subscribe, leave us a
Starting point is 00:05:15 review on Apple podcasts and Spotify and there's a lot of other podcasts out there. If you guys have the balls to have Dallas on your show, I'd be happy to make a connection for you. This guy needs to get his story out. It's important. They are racing history people. Do you get it? All right. I love you all. We have a quick message from Dallas himself. I hope you all enjoy the show. And watch out for those UAPs. They're coming to get you. And that's what we're talking about on the episode after this.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Love you all. Cheers and enjoy the show. Yo, what's happening friends? So, there's been some concern brought up about the Sean Ryan show podcast, about the episode we did together, from some entities in Canada here. They're concerned that there might be some op-seq breaches, I guess.
Starting point is 00:06:19 This is something I took very seriously, prior to going on the show, I consulted with a ton of people currently serving recently retired, deployed and not deployed. People whose opinions I really, really respect. So that's why I went and had the conversation with Sean and talked about what I did and left out the things that I did. Anyway, there's a lot of backlash. Anyway, there's a lot of backlash. A lot of backlash, so it's coming from certain groups here in Canada. So I think we're going to address them in a professional manner, and that's absolutely what Sean is.
Starting point is 00:06:58 So, there you have it. One last thing, and this is for Dallas. Dallas, I just want you to know, I really respect everything you have it. One last thing, and this is for Dallas. Dallas, I just want you to know, I really respect everything you're doing. So does everybody here in America, and here in America, we fucking love freedom of speech. We love freedom. We love people that stand up for what they believe in
Starting point is 00:07:19 and that's exactly what you represent. It would be an honor to have you in this country. We need more people like you in this country today. So I'm just saying, God bless freedom. God bless you, Dallas. And God bless the USA. Our, Dallas, let's get into why you left. Alright.
Starting point is 00:07:48 So the last couple of years, last few years, I kind of alluded to it before a little bit. Like, it didn't like the direction that we were starting ahead. Let's talk about what year this is. This was probably around, when did the fucking COVID start 2020, right? The very beginning of 2020. Yeah, so it was like tail end, beginning of 2019,
Starting point is 00:08:19 maybe tail end 2018. So it was like just starting, and there'd been a couple steps throughout my time there where I saw it's not changing in a way So right about the time all this woke stuff started hitting the news. That's right. So in the news it infiltrated fucking briefing time and infiltrated like different training that they wanted everyone in the Canadian forces to go through What kind of training? Oh like sensitivity training to everything you can imagine. Like, from like just every category of vocalness, it seemed like there was a sensitivity course
Starting point is 00:08:57 that came along with it. Now, so instead of learning how to kill people, exactly, you're learning how to not hurt anybody, it's really, this is the trade off that I'm like, why the fuck are we doing this? So one, within this gate of f***ing. There's no, like we don't have big issues in all of these places.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Now, do I think people need to be nice to other people? Yes. Do I think it needs to take away from my fucking range time? Because you have some agenda? No. I'm not starting to happen and it was like a little bit more and a little bit more. I just saw it going in a direction that I didn't like. When like this COVID thing happened, they mandated, so already we're heading in a direction that I, I'm not super fond of. And then the COVID happened,
Starting point is 00:09:57 you know, everything grinds to this unnecessary halt in my opinion. And we're waiting to see what happens. Like, okay, there's a vaccine coming out, okay? So I'm just reading about it. I'm seeing what they're saying in the news. I'm reading other things. I'm just staying very open-minded. I'm like, okay, what do I feel like this is something that I am concerned about?
Starting point is 00:10:24 Am I scared? Like, is there a fucking black flag sweeping planet earth? I'm like at what level and it's almost like the protector the family kicks in right like what level do I need to be concerned? As Things were coming even like what the news are reporting. I'm like, okay. I see I understand that they're trying to scare everyone I don't see anything that I need to be concerned of. We're looking at demographics, we're looking at. For charity rates, all these things. I'm like, I'm not concerned about this.
Starting point is 00:10:54 To me, like, you're getting numbers, like, anyway. I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm thinking, it came out, you know, it's not, they were bullshit numbers. There's no ifans or butt about it. They were reporting people that died in car accidents and motor, I have cycle out at accidents. People that were shot.
Starting point is 00:11:12 That's right. You know, people that were dying from other illnesses that may have had COVID. You could have died from fucking cancer, but if you had COVID, you died from COVID. If you were in a car accident and fucking died and had COVID, it wasn't the car accident that killed you. It was COVID that killed you. So it's, the numbers were fudged. I mean, from the way I see it, that was to just like get
Starting point is 00:11:39 everybody in line, like be scared, be scared through your part. I was like, yeah, I don't, I don't think so. If I want to see you right now, I'm not concerned about it. So I was like, I look at it like the flu shot. Every year there's flu shot. I'm not concerned about the flu. So I don't get it. Uh, the government, the unit had a different opinion because, obviously, it's the government organization.
Starting point is 00:12:04 So the mandate that you had to have it. That's like, yeah. The average on farm income in the United States was a loss of $1,100. 60% of US pork comes from one company, wholly owned by the Chinese. And farmers are more likely to commit suicide than veterans, folks, we got a problem.
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Starting point is 00:13:46 In this particular case, no. And I would have done the same thing, honestly, if they're like, the flu shots now mandatory. Okay, well, I'm not taking it. I don't require it, I don't see risk. And this is like, as I've evolved, or hopefully evolved, but like learning about health
Starting point is 00:14:01 and all these different things, I'm like, okay. There's places for different medications. It should be up to the individual to make that assessment. Your own fucking health, especially fucking injecting something in your body. Like It's the ultimate like Overstep on someone's freedom. Like you must inject this. I'm like, okay, I'm like, it doesn't seem like it's for me. I had to go to the appointment anyway,
Starting point is 00:14:31 but at this point we were not ordered to take it. The tricky wording, the coercion, and all the stuff I saw was like, other than a couple cases of people that I know that were directly ordered to do it. I even think those were mistakes that people would recognize later, like shit. I don't think that was within my, like I didn't have the right to do that. Now that says everything fast, what's gonna happen? Who knows, but I saw a lot of fucking coercion and I declined getting my first shots on a Friday afternoon
Starting point is 00:15:07 and by Monday I was being threatened to be kicked out of the unit, kicked out of my troop by my Sergeant Major. I'd never seen a reaction, that's something that's yesterday, like I've never seen a reaction like that to almost anything. Like in my opinion I could have fucking drunk drove my truck through the front gate, and it would not be that reaction. Maybe they'd be like, hey man, like fuck, something's obviously going on. Let's figure it out.
Starting point is 00:15:33 This is something, like there's pretty, pretty all right, support prior to this. So it was like a fucking snap of fingers. Like overnight, it just changed so drastically with this narrative that like after being at the Infer almost 14 years and just declining and all I said is I want to have more time to see something because there was Information coming out about like Johnson and Johnson not being great don't get that one AstraZeneca there's some problems like there's blood clots and there's all these things. I'm like I just told him like I just want more time
Starting point is 00:16:04 I was like I couldn't believe the reaction, like so fucking fast. I was like, okay, it's like, this is a weird one. So, who was everybody else doing at the unit? Uh, pens on the turn. There are a lot of people who are torn, but a lot of people were coerced, a lot of people were told like, but a lot of people were coerced, a lot of people were told like,
Starting point is 00:16:27 you're not gonna advance your career. You're gonna be kicked out. So the end result was you're going to be kicked out of the military, a five-fea relief release, I think it's called, if you don't comply. Like the most drastic shit I've ever seen. So like, not only like, you're not on a list of deployable right now because maybe, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:16:49 some other country has a problem with it or whatever. It's like, you're fucking kicked out. Like, it was insane. And that led to, so this would have been probably, and I wanna say like, tshh, October, end of the year 2020, by time like everything happened and the, be 2020, 2020, 2021, no, 2020.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And they were like, this was in place. And now, they have a bunch of people that are at the calf that are like, yeah, I wanna do this, 2020, 2020. And they were like, this was in place. And now they have a bunch of people that are at the calf that are like, yeah, we're not doing this, okay? Begin their release process. You look at what are your options. And there was like exemptions. There were some exemptions that they wrote about.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Very rarely were those except. So I wrote in to get exemptions for a whole bunch of different things that I believed And I talked it's actually I talked to like an indigenous elder From around where I was from and like I mean we didn't really get into it. I'm not really a religious dude In terms of the dogma in a particular book, but I'm a spiritual guy for sure. And just I have beliefs in things that are bigger than us. I don't think it's all just an accident of whatever. But the advice I got from like a person that I deem spiritual or religious whatever it is, it was like, don't do it yet. Like this is the same government that fucking took our indigenous people through them and like these schooling projects to like teach the Indian out of them.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Like that was not that long ago. Yeah. There's a scar left on the indigenous people that's like, well no, we just trust everything you say. We've done that before. And it was a sentiment of like, what is natural, what do you feel, what will we believe in our belief system? And I try to put this into a, like here's another reason,
Starting point is 00:19:03 another reason that I think in this particular time, like, I want to be examed from this. And like the cadre of the fucking army or whatever was like, no, that's not legitimate, religious fucking thing. Like, fucking you, cocksucker. So, simultaneous to all this, like, like starting to get an administrative trouble, which doesn't ever happen before in my career, because I'm not playing the mask charade either. We'd have a conversation in a room, me and you, or whoever was in my team or dead, no mask required, it's fucking stupid. We can all assess this now.
Starting point is 00:19:44 It's been going on for, you know, at this point, like, almost a year. Next room, I don't need masks. I think in all the green is fucking stupid. Oh, so when someone's coming to the meeting, you gotta put on a mask. I'm like, no. No.
Starting point is 00:20:00 And this just kept happening. And people will get upset. And I'm like, too fucking bad. Like, this is all a charade right now. I see you in conversation of a certain people until it's time to virtue signal you a bigger group or whatever, like, it's all a charade. And I'm not playing this game.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And so it would be like, I get in trouble. So, oh, can you just fucking please put a mask on? I'm like, no. Like, the next one's gonna be up the level of fucking administrative problems. Like, at what point are you gonna see that I don't gonna fuck anymore? Like, I was now chasing up medical issues that I had
Starting point is 00:20:38 all the MTV I-Stuff I was telling you about and I was getting a medical release process started. Cause I was gonna be kicked out. Now, how many guys are, are you leading the charge here? Are there guys following your footsteps? I was out front for sure. Different people took different approaches. I know a lot of people that are no longer in, that were.
Starting point is 00:21:10 I'll just like, I'll put it that way. I didn't really get permission to talk about their own situations, but like, uh, yeah. I was putting my foot down and most people, whether they caved or not, really appreciated. Yeah, there's obviously a collection of people that didn't. So I was now chasing up a medical release. In hindsight, I'm like, what a fucking blessing. Cause like, I needed to stop exposing my brain to impacts.
Starting point is 00:21:46 This was just the catalyst. So it was like, yeah, I'm gonna cross on that line. But I, everything was bringing on these concussions symptoms. So, looking back on it, I'm like, woo, but it just, I couldn't believe how fucking changed overnight, and then the final straw was, But it just, I couldn't believe how fucking changed overnight. And then the final like straw was I was going to a meeting to hear about why my exemptions were decline,
Starting point is 00:22:13 why some person who didn't even fucking come talk to me, or talk to the person that I spoke with, declared like religious exemption. No, medical exemption. No, like even I brought up all of these concerns. Why could I do this? All of these different things that we're showing up in young men who are not at risk of fucking dying from COVID. I just like, no, no, no, no, all these things are no. So I was going to this meeting for them to tell me why everything was declined. The meeting just
Starting point is 00:22:40 happened to be at like a meeting room and put a mask on. And then can we have the conversation that you had with the gentleman before you entered that room? Yeah, so I was talking and my like chain of command knew and I don't, like my media chain of command I mean. And he was like escorting me in my surge major and he was like, hey man, my surge major and he was like, hey man, they're gonna ask you to put a mask on.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I know. And he's like, can you do it? It's like a fuck no. So he went into to kind of give the room a heads up. And this was like the ultimate, like, because I could have just fucking put it on. And warbelloclava is all over the fucking place But like the principle behind this nonsense. I was seeing this like This charade like it was just such a joke like I'm not doing it
Starting point is 00:23:38 So the RSA comes out like I need to put a mask on Dallas. I am not doing it. I don't even know what a fuck a mask. And that escalated a little bit. I'm gonna say to use my first name, call me by a rank. I told him when he stature got a little bit up and I was just like, don't get fucking poke-chees with me. And I use it, I won't use his name here, but. And then he's like, get out.
Starting point is 00:24:12 So it goes down, open the door to this building. So you coming outside with me? I was like, just looked away, went inside, and that was the last time I read access to fucking even get on camp. Wow, that's how it ended. It's how it ended.
Starting point is 00:24:29 So I got him a truck. My sergeant just came out and he's like, fuck. I was like, look man, I know the position I was put in. But I don't give a fuck anymore. I drove home, and like my past never worked again. So all the clear out process and everything had to be dug and threw people on camp. I got a little charge on the way out for that.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I can't even remember what it was called. That behavior towards the RSM. And that was like the see you later. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's insane. It's fucking insanity. I...
Starting point is 00:25:08 But like I was saying, I think yesterday I mentioned this, just like... I liked what you said at dinner. You'd mentioned that you asked the soldier of injury said, well, is everybody in that room? Mm-hmm, masked.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Yes, all I asked is said, is everybody in the room going to be wearing a mask. He said, absolutely. He said, then that means you're all safe, if they work, and if they don't, and you're not safe, then why are you telling me to put one on?
Starting point is 00:25:37 And that's when he got started using my rank instead of my name. Well, what else are you gonna say to that? Well, it just shows you gonna say to that? Well, it just shows. It's a fairie-go-sarger major. This is fucking what common sense looks like. Yeah, it's just, it was my-
Starting point is 00:25:51 Where did yours go? That's a thing. Where the fuck did it go? Yeah, so that was like the last day. I was ever... All the release Do you feel that that destroyed a Big part of
Starting point is 00:26:13 No At least not for me. So one I think it was already going in a direction that I Didn't like that it wasn't for me. It was not, the unit was no longer, or is least rapidly turning into a place, that the people they selected were not going to fit in there anymore. And I just, I recognize that for me, my own personal thing.
Starting point is 00:26:40 So, the unit is still full of fucking super hard charging professional motherfuckers. The best workforce friends brothers have ever worked with. There is a portion that needs a realignment. Is that portion growing? I think maybe because the other portion shrinking. It would appear to be growing. But when I go chat with boys, I don't feel like the numbers are growing where people are like, yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:27:23 We need to be forced to do more shit and we need to like Really soak up all this woke business like no one's saying that Unless the most important thing to you in the world is your career. So like it's still There's just still fucking great warriors there. Yeah So I I leave and like the unit I never expected There's just still fucking great warriors there. Yeah. So I leave and like, the unit, I never expected, whenever I got out, no matter how it was, I didn't expect it like,
Starting point is 00:27:53 this unit's gonna come to a halt. Like, oh my god, Dallas is leaving the unit because you just, you know, and a fucking dude in a big organization. Like the train just keeps going. But there's, I didn't expect it then like that But I have just really good
Starting point is 00:28:15 Friends and brothers out of it all that like no matter the bullshit I've had my back in a lot of ways. They did they did lose a lot of stuff out by By losing you. I mean, what percentage of the unit do you think left because of the jab mandates and the woke agenda? And because this has happened across the world, you know, and when I get guys in who are fresh out, I mean, it's horrible. It did, they've demoralized all of the units. And the attrition rate, it's a joke.
Starting point is 00:28:51 The attrition rate is a joke now. They can't keep anybody in. They can't recruit anybody. Because they miscalculated who joins the military, especially who serves in a, who wants to serve in a soft environment at that, at that capacity at that level. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Well, I don't know if the people really making the calls for this to happen want units like that. Well, that's when I'm, we can get into that in a minute. But, um, but I guess what I'm saying is, you know, this is just an estimation, it's not based off any factual information other than just who I know left. The seal teams because of the jab.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And I'm gonna say it's damn close to 50%. Between the woke agenda and the jab mandates. I mean, these are the only people in the fucking country that stand up for what they believe in. Everybody else has just got their head down and they're just trying to get through the day. These are the only fucking people that step up to the plate. And they just left.
Starting point is 00:30:00 And when they left, let's say it is 50%, I mean, dude, you took the, you took the, you were on the team that has the world record for the longest sniper kill in the end world history. And the TL is also, I can't remember what step he's at now,
Starting point is 00:30:21 but he was being kicked out for the same reason. There you go. So they, here you have an-star sniper team at the top level, and you're not gonna be able to pass that knowledge on to the next guys. Yeah, like the no fucking detrimental that is. The corporate knowledge is fucking mind-blowing. And even like, I don't know the numbers of guys got out,
Starting point is 00:30:44 but I know a large number of people that don't wanna be there. Now that's just two people. Yeah, that's just two people. Yeah, you know, this, they're not gonna get your mindset, they're not gonna get your, you know, the hard skills, they're not gonna get the soft skills, they're not of it. Yeah, they're not gonna get the soft skills. None of it. They're not gonna get it.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And there aren't any other wars happening right now. So that experience is gonna get real thin. It's gonna get real hard to come by. And so yeah, I would say they lost a tremendous amount of experience and knowledge by doing that. It is crazy. Yeah, it's just there's so many things that seem so backwards to me. Now, going back to the, you know, do they, you don't think they want people like that.
Starting point is 00:31:38 When I saw the defund the police movement happen in the US. That was the, I immediately, I was like, they are going to get rid of the old guard and replace that with the new mindset that's going to do whatever, whoever these fucking people are that are pushing this agenda, they want to replace the old guard with the new guard that's going to do whatever exactly they have to say yeah and then we saw carry over from the defund the police movement then the new administration took over now we're seeing it mill not even just special operations and it's military wide they're restructuring, everything. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Well, it's historically almost, and I'm not much of a military historian, but you have groups of guys in soft, I'll say guys, because we've never had a female insulter, but like we're selected to think outside the box, to use common sense, to assess certain things, to hold a fucking ground, to not get bullied, and then it was like this big surprise at the end, like oh, you must be going through something, you've changed, like, no other fuckers, I didn't change. This is who you selected, you selected someone to not be bullied in the shit.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I didn't wanna do. And now you're just, you're seeing it. Like, that's what's happening. Like, just standing my ground. Like, it's like the ultimate fucking selection test. I'm like, so I just, yeah. Throw it on out the gate and turn to country music. Is there anything you regret about,
Starting point is 00:33:36 I mean, you stood up for what you believe in? Is there any, do you have any regrets? To the guys that are still in that unit, you know, when the next mandate comes down the pipe. Yeah. No, man. I don't. And I, I, I stood my ground. I'm trying to think if there's anywhere where I was like, ah, maybe I just do something.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I don't think so. I stood my ground everywhere. And I know I was a pain in the ass to people, because I'm not doing that. And now it's the next level I'm not doing. Like I'm not even signing that administrative fucking wrist slap that you're giving me, try to keep it out of care. Like it was just so absurd.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I couldn't wrap my head around it. So I did, I stood my ground in places, and I'm so happy now that I'm out that I did And like I said it was Looking back like all the concussions MTBI stuff and everything piling up. I think it's a good thing overall anyway but I In that sense no no regrets at all. And I was telling people my opinion,
Starting point is 00:34:50 why I was doing it, you know? I don't care if guys wanted it, go fucking day it. Take two, take three, five boosters and stuff. Like I don't particularly care what drugs you assess personally that you want to use. Use everything Pfizer makes? Use none of what I make. Like, I truly fucking believe in freedom. So it was never like, hey man, don't do this, don't do this. I'm like, here's some things that I'm reading. Here's some things that I'm seeing. Think about it. You're not an anti-vaxxer.
Starting point is 00:35:25 You just want choice. I just want choice. Anyone can take whatever they want, but it definitely got me looking into more ingredients of things. And it started with me and my family, while what's in a food? What's in our cleaning products?
Starting point is 00:35:40 It's in our water. And I'm like, I'm not gonna do all of this. I'm like, what's in that thing? Ah, there's so many money and a bunch of other things we don't know. I'm not sure. Given. So it's just, I'm not anti medication. I'm not anti vaccine. If those are the things you want to do, I am anti you telling me what I have to put in my fucking body to fit into society. We have to go to a restaurant. Like, those are our mandates and you can't,
Starting point is 00:36:12 like, you show a Vax Vaz, you can't come eat here. No, shit. Yeah, that's real. Yeah. A lot of work. It's, now it's done. It's mostly done. But the mandate from the government is like, you can't get on a plane, a train, or a bus.
Starting point is 00:36:31 You can't go eat at restaurants. Every restaurant was required, or they could be shut down to ask you for proof of fucking COVID vaccination. Wow. Yeah. I've heard they were doing that in some states or we don't do that shit here in Tennessee. Yeah, I gotta come to Tennessee more.
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Starting point is 00:38:56 What do you think this all came from? What was it stemming from? I see. Like, OK, these are conspiracies, but I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. At what point they just, they come out of the realm of, it seems like nothing ever gets out of the realm
Starting point is 00:39:18 of conspiracy, it is not in the news, to some people, regardless of what it is. Like, there's now a ton of, you can go back and watch hours of video, where they're like, here's what the vaccine is, here's what it's going to do. Here's what it's gonna do. And you just see that narrative change as like it's undeniable.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Everyone's triple vaccine still getting COVID. Oh, but, it's gonna, you're not gonna die. Or you're gonna die less. Like there's no fucking way to measure that. Yeah. I had COVID twice and I'm like, I didn't die. He was uncomfortable. But like if I had three shots of whatever
Starting point is 00:39:56 was that going to be less than I had? Yeah. How the fuck do you measure that? It's a good way to trick people though. Cause it's a metric that you can't measure. You can only have someone say, you're not doing your part, because you might die in an ICU and take up a bed for it,
Starting point is 00:40:10 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I did my part and my COVID didn't kill me. You're like, what the fuck? It's clever as shit to have the narrative change from dead stop, this is gonna stop you from getting your spreading COVID. Those videos are out there. Your president said that, a bunch of people said that.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And then, oh, well, no, it was never really intended to stop the spread. It was to reduce critical symptoms. You know, like, and people are like, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Oh, fuck, that's what I'm saying. Like, people conspiracy theorists were saying it six months ago, like, hey, this is not,
Starting point is 00:40:51 they've never produced any studies that are showing them, stopping any kind of spread. Cats out of the bag now. I know a ton of people who got the jab, who got COVID. Absolutely. Like, the cat is out of the fucking bag, you know. But in people, I just saw, I don't even watch the news anymore,
Starting point is 00:41:11 but my wife had it on this morning as I was walking out, and I saw they have another booster coming out. Oh yeah. 50% of the country is gonna bend over and take that booster, the probably waiting in line right now. It all excited to take it.
Starting point is 00:41:25 It produced, so there's like, the way I see it is a spectrum. On one side, there's a lot of money I play. People do crazy shit for money. Companies make a fucking shit load of money. When policy dictates profit, the first fucking people purchased are the policy makers. So that there's like, that's just like the common sense,
Starting point is 00:41:47 I feel like we can all agree on, there was a lot of people that made a lot of money office. Let's just say that's like the lower end of it all. To the other side, we're seeing things that really fit in line with a globalization that wants to happen. And this is a good catalyst for it. They say it, they, I mean, like the people who want it, right in their own book.
Starting point is 00:42:10 The great reset, they put it out, everyone can go read it, there's not a conspiracy, the guy's name is on it. He wrote the fucking book. This is what we want. This has now led into a whole bunch of different ways that they can implement things. Like, you have to show proof to get into this restaurant.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Maybe a handier way would be if there was an international digital idea where we knew what everything was doing. And if you don't agree, you can't get on a flight from this country to that country. Well, like a digital idea for everyone to travel everywhere. That's being worked on. That's already there. This is not
Starting point is 00:42:45 conspiracy. The government of Canada has a known digital known traveler digital ID program sponsored world economic forum. Air Canada, certain airports. This is on the fucking government website. Wow. There's not a conspiracy at all. You can log in and go check it out. No one, traveler, digitally, ID system. A year ago to say this was a huge conspiracy. Come on, they don't want that. It's like a central, a digitally backed, central currency or whatever the acronym is for that.
Starting point is 00:43:21 That's another thing. So like, on the, everyone should believe and be able to see that like there's just a lot of money at play. A ton of people made fucking billions of dollars. And on the other side, there's a lot more things pointing now that the next step that they said they wanna make is where it's going. So I think that's what it was about
Starting point is 00:43:42 somewhere in that spectrum. What's next? It who knows it's crazy Have you seen the interview this like the CNN reporter that was like chatting that was caught like on a Like a camera was recording or phone was recording Like yeah, we're told to push all the COVID narrative, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all through this. They're just like, okay, well, what happens now? It's all over. It's like, oh, the next big push is climate change.
Starting point is 00:44:11 We have to, all the momentum is going to be put on that. You're gonna see it on every single screen, you're gonna see it on everything. And the video about out, people are still like, no, like the fuck it works for CNN. I haven't seen that. Yeah, I just saw it again. I mean, it's pretty obvious.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Somewhere, you know. Oh, and that's a thing. If you, I mean, lots of people see it, but lots of people don't. And even with a recording of like that, people are still like, no. What? No, it's your fucking truck that's doing it.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Okay. It's insane. It's insane. Oh, it's your fucking truck that's doing it. Okay. It's insane. It's insane. Oh, it's a rabbit hole. Go down that one a long time. Yeah, well, we could spend hours on that topic, but... But let's move into psilocybin and psychedelics. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Let's get on something a little more positive. Yes. So you get out, a little more positive. Yes. So you get out, you're dealing with some of the trauma. At some point you decide, yeah, so getting out, there's noticing like there's saying a lot of concussion symptoms, a lot of that kind of manifested itself as anger and a typically not angry person. My brother dying, I was having a hard time processing,
Starting point is 00:45:30 it's all of that. And like, immediately after, it was like, that's when I was like, I was drinking a little a lot of whiskey. And then, as time passes, I'm like, it was still kind of definitely a struggle, but I was like tapering kind of my daily behavior and I started hearing about
Starting point is 00:45:54 the effects of like a big dose of psilocybin There's podcasters that I listened to were talking about it. There's studies I was seeing being done for things like PTSD, trauma, depression, anxiety, all these things, alcoholism, or just addiction in general. And I was like, fuck it, fuck it. What do I got to lose? A bunch of people whose opinions in health, I respect opinions on mindset and growth,
Starting point is 00:46:28 just a bunch of things. I'm like, a bunch of Googling, can you fucking die from taking too much mushrooms? Can't census is no. You can be in different realms for sure, but apparently no. Now, there's some odd, outlier cases like I was saying, I think there's like mental issues of some sort.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Like, do your research before you take this advice up. But I was like, okay, it's not something that people overdose from. I'm not gonna be like, because what happened is I read about it, got the Coles notes that I thought I needed set and setting. I was in a meditative state and I was like, set some intentions and fucking threw down, I think it was four
Starting point is 00:47:12 to five grams the first time. I like sent my wife out of the house. I was like, okay, I don't know, I'm not gonna have my phone on, but I'll message you and like, I think it's like six or eight hours of stuff is gonna take time to process. So I was sitting in my living room and it started to kick in. And it was the craziest, not craziest.
Starting point is 00:47:38 It was like I was saying, it was like one of the most profound days of my whole life when it was all said and done. It was such a release of so many things. Like, from an outside perspective, I'm glad Sarah wasn't still there because it would have looked like I was having a terrible, terrible trip.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Like I was on the ground and like I got nauseous. You know, it was like crawling to the bathroom. I thought I was gonna puke. I was like I wasn't sure. And there was a bunch of things. Advice I had gotten was just like, you just gotta let go. Like, when this comes, just the fucking let go.
Starting point is 00:48:14 And I was struggling so hard, my ego, to narrate what was happening. And like, just like, it's almost like you're getting to a panic state. And with that, I was so nauseous. I was like, oh yeah, just like, we gotta let go, we gotta let go, we gotta let go, we gotta let go, and things are fucking crazy. The visuals are crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Looking in the mirror and my skin is crazy and it's like, it's reptilian shapes and stuff. Like it was wild. I was like, just let it go, let it go, let it go. And I did and I like laid down. And just like the angle, my back was to the wind about everything went dark and silent. And I was like, I remember just like, throughout the whole thing, having like this beat
Starting point is 00:49:02 like in my body. And it was like a pow-aud, for me, my indigenous background. Just like I heard a pow-owd drum the whole time, and I felt so fucking connected to Earth, sort of thing. It's probably one of my good lot of sense to people who have not done psychedelics, but I just, I fucking cried so hard.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And it was like a release of, I don't even know, it was like a fucking river coming out of me. And it was like, it was kind of laid on my side away from the window and everything was dark, but it was just like flowing. And then it went like deep, deep into this hole and it was like this fucking scaredest I'd ever been. I was like, I'm in hell.
Starting point is 00:49:43 It's like quiet, empty. I was like, I'm in hell. It's like quiet, empty. I was like, I'm dead or something. I'd, like even just my own thoughts were so fucking loud. And then I, I like, just saw like my brother in that place. And he was kind of like, I was like, why are you having such a hard time with this? And it was almost like, I'm over here so now I know,
Starting point is 00:50:10 but like, just like, I didn't go anywhere. And it's like, what the fuck? And it was like, he was, just through whatever, means I don't remember if I was just saying these words, but just like I've gone nowhere, like I'm always as close as like to a thinnest your eyelids kind of thing is what I came out of it with.
Starting point is 00:50:35 What the fuck in this warm feeling came over me. And like, and I was no longer like afraid that I was dead, I guess. And then at the same time, like this, it was crazy. This octopus thing, like gave me almost like a hug. I just felt like so warm. And it was like, it was my little daughter.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Like that essence or whatever And I laid back down like I turned over What I looked at the ceiling and it was like this fucking Path to heaven man like my living room see I look at a million times since that now And I'm like what the fuck where did this come from but like I was seeing like a lineage like all it was like a path, all of the men in my family to like, great, great, great, great, great, wherever. And it was like all of that was a part of me. I never felt that before. Do you have that much, do you know about
Starting point is 00:51:39 your family lineage? A little bit. So like, do you think? No, no, no, there was like mystery people in that thing, but like it was just a part of me. It was an intuitive feeling. Yeah, like the wisdom of this whole, everything that is me is like from all of these different, these men. And then almost just after, it was like the same thing, but for all the mothers in my line, like it was like the love and warmth from that side, it was almost like all the way up to like mother earth sort of thing, you know? Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:18 It was weird man, and it was like, it happened a couple of other times, we can talk about those stories later, but it was like as much as So many of the struggles here feel like you're alone. Do you know what I mean? Like a lot of it and we're terrible for this in our community of just like well that fuckers not gonna understand I'm talking to this guy. He doesn't get it like and I'm not even like, I didn't have a crazy career. I've had some close calls a couple times. They don't, and I've been snapped back
Starting point is 00:52:49 to those in a couple of loud scenarios, but like some of the guys you've had sitting in this chair, I'm like, well, since, yeah, I should've like, just be a homeowner to be telling this story, but like, I have not had that level of career. So I can't imagine some guys just thinking they're in it alone.
Starting point is 00:53:07 You know what I mean? People don't fucking get it. And I always had that, but this was showing me, it was such a fucking warm embrace of all of this lineage of mothers really. You never shit's really hard. You're're just like you're not alone here. You come from this, you come from all of this,
Starting point is 00:53:33 and none of these people went anywhere. Physical state obviously has gone somewhere, it's sort of fucking ground or pile of ashes, but like the being is like, this is all you, all the way up to the fucking beginning of time. Like, it's so crazy to even talk about this level to try and, and I see it's so clear, like I didn't forget anything of this entire trip
Starting point is 00:53:57 as I recall. And he was like six hours of these, like little lessons, things I didn't know. I needed to like pull on. What do you think the most important thing you took out of it was? 100% it was my brother. Like it was that I just,
Starting point is 00:54:18 I had a feeling now that was night and day from beginning to end of like this, this loss, this expectation that I had. Like, you're gonna be here forever to fucking do all these things together. Hunt and Fish and C. Caleb and Mania married and Gigi at some point. And like, you're gonna be here and fucking play music and all these things. It was like, he was like okay got it you had a bunch of expectations that's all your ego I'm still here I didn't go anywhere and that was that was that was the biggest thing for sure that was
Starting point is 00:54:59 like I don't know how many, I probably had a drink to numerous every single fucking day, since he died until that point almost. There was a couple of times I'm like, okay, I was trying to sort through it, but this was like, boom, when I came out, I was like, holy shit. It was night and day. I was like, I don't even have a desire to drink,
Starting point is 00:55:26 to cover up the things I don't know how to process, kind of thing. Now, I still drink the relationship with alcohol. I, it has changed a lot. And I look at it now like, the way I had a lot of time in my life. Just like, it can enhance some fun. I fucking, I love the taste of a good bourbon or a glass of red wine. Be it like, I really do enjoy alcohol.
Starting point is 00:56:03 But like, the lesson, I'm just like, and I told us to my knees. If life is good, if you think, you're doing, you're not in a dark place particularly, have a glass of wine. In indigenous communities, there's a big problem with alcohol. And it's a slippery slope, man. And I've kind of like teetered, gone too far this way,
Starting point is 00:56:32 tried to come back, take some time off. But it's why you're doing it. Do you know what I mean? It's hugely important. Cause it's not like corn juice, grape juice, or fucking barley juice, but that's not the issue is not with some liquid substance.
Starting point is 00:56:54 In my opinion, it's what it's covering up or what it's being used as a crutch to process, I guess. Why are you using it to cope with? what it's being used as a crutch to process, I guess. Why are you using it to cope with? What are you using it to cope with? So what you're getting at? That's what, yeah, like, there's an underlying thing. If you feel like shit, like for me it was very clear with my brother dying.
Starting point is 00:57:20 I'm like, I don't know how to fucking deal with this. I don't, the tools that I thought I had are not working. So that one, it was like temporary numbing agent, essentially. So you've done two more sales Ivan trips, since. Yeah, what sparked those? You just didn't feel like you were, uh, do you need more? I, I think the way I look at it for myself,
Starting point is 00:57:50 after discovering it, um, I want to use it probably every year. Um, and I'm going to look into more guided things and stuff like that. I did the first few by myself Just have a big ego. I think I don't think I would let go as much if someone else was in the room for the first couple And I did know what was gonna happen either like I didn't want someone supervising me and then I get violent
Starting point is 00:58:26 Yeah, I'm holding dead person when I wake up for something. I'm like, I don't know what this is gonna do. Now I don't think I have any knowing what comes out of me when I've done three times, but like, I have no want to be violent in it. So that was kind of a, okay. Like the whole thing, I could not imagine like being a fucking fight when I'm like that amount of suicide So yeah, the second one was just like
Starting point is 00:58:51 continuing Continuing work like they're still There's just it always offers something new I think from my experience The last one I did was just at the end of this last year, October, November, something like that. And as well, I let it seven grams of penis and be strain. And for this one, I went to like our little cottage beach house. like our little cottage beach house. Just by myself, again, I'll let like a couple candles me to fire, set in setting, meditation,
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Starting point is 01:00:07 By the end of fighting with myself for, say I couldn't imagine fighting, but it was like an internal fight. Let's go in, fight. I'm really curious. So I took them, they came one fucking fast, and I was like, oh shit, fuck, I did too much. I wasn't ready to do it again.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Like, maybe I'm jumping the gun. It ain't been now nine months or almost a year since the last time. Ah, I did know, again, I got nausea this time, I actually threw up. And I was just in such a fucking internal battle. No matter if I find that if I close my eyes, you really go deep inside.
Starting point is 01:00:53 If you open your eyes and look at stuff, it comes out, but no matter where there's just no escape. And it was like four hours of this. And then I, it was so, I almost wish I would have recorded it on a GoPro or something. The sounds I was making, man, were like a fucking animal. I remember it and I'm like, I don't know what I was growling. Like there was all these crazy things
Starting point is 01:01:14 and I still had that like, like that drum beat, the console. Every time I take it. But and I was just like fighting, fighting and growling and I just felt like such a fucking animal. I was like, there's like, and then it was, it was kept saying like, you have to go through this fight. Like your life, how you go about it, how you process things, whatever the next step is, like you just left the unit, you're going into the unknown,
Starting point is 01:01:45 like you need to know that you have this fight, and I was like, and then it kinda like, con, and something came over me that was like, the best way I can describe it is like, you've graduated. And it was like, you are strong enough for fucking anything this world throws at you. And it was like, you are strong enough for fucking anything
Starting point is 01:02:05 this world throws at you. And I was like, holy fuck, I'm getting tingly, sorry about it. I was like, Jesus Christ. I didn't know the whole time. I'm like, you're just like, it was this, you're in it. You're all by yourself. Nobody's coming. This fight you have to be strong enough for.
Starting point is 01:02:23 When it was all said and done, I was like, oh, we fuck, I'm like, I am strong enough for it. So that kinda tapered off. It was crazy night that tested it. It was tapering off into the evening. And I was like, this is not the right way to process. By the way, I'll say that right now. What is about to go down.
Starting point is 01:02:46 But I had made an obligation early in the day for something that evening, and I pushed the start on a little bit because something happened. So it was like, it was not in a great place to be in public, but I was like, fuck, I already said I was gonna do this, I'll go do it. And like I wasn't like still like tripping,
Starting point is 01:03:03 but I was like, I was now do this, I'll go do it. And like I wasn't like still like tripping, but I was like, I was now super tired, emotionally drained. I was like, okay, what a lesson. And I went and did it, it was like to go to a hockey practice and like help, when you have a few, get ready. So I go in, like my family's there and stuff. So I was like, what was it?
Starting point is 01:03:21 It was like, just like tired, just trying to drink some water and like still processing everything. Like drained. And then we go to hockey and we hadn't heard from her dad for a day in a bit. It was just super unusual. Like he called us like three times a day,
Starting point is 01:03:42 everyone just like, and he wasn't feeling good prior. I'm like, oh no, fuck. I'm like, did anyone go? No, I was like, yeah, I'll go check on him after this practice. So we went to his house, and I'm like, it's like, wait and truck. It's just like, oh my God, why? I'm just like, just give me a second.
Starting point is 01:04:06 And I go in, take his apartment, and he was dead on the ground. And I was like, fucking god damn it. Like, it's, it's seen a lot of dead bodies, so that part wasn't like a crazy shock to me. But I'm like, I have to go outside and I have to tell, my fiance, that her dad is dead. And then I got a call on my friend and brother and team leader from multiple,
Starting point is 01:04:38 like just her brother, that his dad is dead. And he's getting like, I'm like, fuck. So I kinda had a little moment, and I'm like, you know, it's just like, like, the processing was a lot easier because of the first psilocybin trip I went out. So I'm like, just kinda had a man, it was a pleasure. And I'm sorry that this is how it is,
Starting point is 01:05:03 but I know that you're around. But it was still like to go outside and I went around to her side of the door and she fucking lost it. And she's like, no, no, no, no, don't, like, you can imagine. Like the reaction is just, yeah, it was terrible. So I called her brother and came down and we just started dealing with it and like he went late into the night kind of thing. And it was just, it was such a, like a terrible evening.
Starting point is 01:05:36 But it's, I find it's so strange that I got that lesson right before that. Like I don't... It's it was just the events of... You don't think that's the greatest... For once it had stayed up. Ah, no. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:52 No, no, no. I don't think it's coincidence at all. Um, how it all happened. Um, but it's fucking interesting, that's for sure. Yeah, that's for damn sure. Yeah. Here's your wipe-shred cell seven since then? Ah, no.
Starting point is 01:06:08 So she has plans to. Yeah. She wants to. She's looking for the right place. I don't, she doesn't want to do it all alone, which, I, I, from what I read, the best way to do it is like, have someone experienced, kind of walk you through the process.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Mm-hmm. And that's probably what I'll do going forward. Am I trying the next time, and I am in no hurry to do it again right now, but when I do, I might try something like ayahuasca but have it guided and see what I get out of, you know, a person that knows kind of what a guide these things. But yeah, she wants to at some point.
Starting point is 01:06:46 What about your brother and mom? I think that he will also, at some point, or he might have, like, so he's a bit of a... He knows that it's fucking good. He sees that he's a health nut into all the same things like really So I'm not a hundred percent sure he hasn't done it in a place of just not sending about it He's also kind of reserved a little bit He's a man you might if you weren't gonna have a second Canadian audience. You might want to have a chat with him
Starting point is 01:07:24 Right on if you guys got enough conspiracies you'll be here for a long time Yeah, so I I I'm a huge fan of it There's some things again that you need to be cautious about but like my mother Had and is having like I just as you can imagine her or sundying super hard time. I know that she's interested in doing it as well. There's a couple of clinics I think that are it's like it's coming into a place where it might be available soon for some of this big trauma stuff. So I'm hoping that fucking everybody does it. Man, I know they got you're familiar with maps, right? Yeah. So I know they're doing a big study with MDMA. And I think they're using
Starting point is 01:08:14 prisoners. Okay. And I can't really say anything, but there's another group that I used to be with and their experience, they're doing studies on them, with MDMA and supposedly having amazing results. I've heard some of them were combos as well, like Silasibon and MDMA, or... Well, wasn't yours? I've been gaining five MEOs. Five MEO DMT, yeah. But that wasn't a combo. I did, I did, I began in five MEO. Five MEO DMT, yeah. But that wasn't a combo. I did, I did, I began on a, I think I did, I began on a Wednesday
Starting point is 01:08:50 and I did five MEO on a Friday. That's pretty fun, close. It's close, pretty close to a combo. It wasn't, I think what you're talking about though, with the combo is, is both humor and administering the same time, yeah. And so I haven't done that. I did a very light psilocybin journey since nothing
Starting point is 01:09:11 like your experience. I did two grams and had one of the most amazing conversations with my wife that I've ever had before. It's a magical mushroom. Yeah, it is. It is like a lot of people will get a lot mushroom. Yeah, it is. It is like a lot of people will get a lot out of it, especially our politicians. Yeah, and then I hope that,
Starting point is 01:09:35 and I've had some friends do it after hearing my story, and there's a couple guys, and it's just like, I've never heard it not help somebody. Yeah, now I'm not saying it's impossible. Or I'm not saying that that is not possible whatever it is, but like it's helped every person that has taken it with like, with the purpose.
Starting point is 01:09:58 It's intention or not really, like even, and some people get slapped in the face with like, here's an intention, you should have had, you know? But yeah, I think it's, I think it's huge, man. I think for guys who've gone through crazy careers in this stuff with just what you see and what you do in a time away and the fucking, just how you grow into a person
Starting point is 01:10:24 in that environment. Again, this will just, this will bring you, it'll shine some light on some things that you might not have otherwise seen. What are you got coming up? So now you're now you're big in the country music. So I'm putting my foot in the door. Yes, I'm here to shout at you, and then I'm going to write songs in Nashville for the week. I've got a bunch of different appointments lined up with like these professional, like fucking real deal songwriters. So I'm super excited to learn from them and see what we can come up with.
Starting point is 01:11:02 We're writing for an album to do a album, to be kind of recorded between here and Canada. Man, I just want to fucking meet people and play tunes. Music's always been such a big part of my life and a very therapeutic part for a lot of it also. Do you have any particular ambition with this or you just... Man, not really. Like, if you would have asked 20-year-old Dallas if this was the path
Starting point is 01:11:32 I was taking instead of going to JTF2, it would have been the same reason. Am I enough? Is it like, you know, I got to prove some things. Now I just want to write good songs because I love good songs. Music has helped me so fucking much that I know that a song with truth, it can do crazy things. Like it can really help you. And just some of the songs I've written now
Starting point is 01:11:59 and playing them to like veteran communities and stuff. Like I've had big strong fucking dudes like crying. And they're like, man, like you can't write a song like that. If you didn't have a career in this, like it fucking hits home. And like that is crazy to have, and music does that. So I want to write good songs. Want to write fun songs too, man? Songs are great for heartache and heartbreak
Starting point is 01:12:26 and hard times processing, but they're also, like, you have a good music on, and times are good, and it's that much better. So the real intention is to just write good songs and play them for whoever wants to listen. Do you think, do you still have some of those songs that you wrote about your brother? Yeah, so there's a lot of...
Starting point is 01:12:47 I actually played one live for the first time, when did we play in November? And it was the first time I'd ever been able to play it in front of anyone and not like start crying. But yeah, I played that one live and there was, it was the room was silent. I couldn't believe it. And then there's handful of people that were brought to tears that I'm like, it's such a, it's such an age old way of connecting with someone, you know? Yeah, that's why I like the country music that I love is they're telling the fucking truth. Like the struggle, the good time, the heartache, whatever it is, they're telling the truth
Starting point is 01:13:34 in the song. So yeah, I have some of the songs, I don't know where they're going to go, I don't know. You write songs and sometimes I'm like, you just get it out and don't touch it again. Sometimes you come back to it and play it because it connects you to something or a certain moment. I don't know, I just wanna keep learning how to do it so that I can keep you. Well, man, I kind of want to wrap this up. But thank you for coming in here and sharing your story. And I wish you the best of luck. Thanks so
Starting point is 01:14:18 much for having me. And I have a whole list of people that I'm dying to connect you with. And I'm going to do it as soon as we flip these cameras off But one last question. Yeah, we've had two or three people to recommend for this show. Who would it be? Oh, man Did I have to be Canadian? They can be whoever you want. Okay, so I think at some point If he's ready my brother-in-law would be a great chat. He's got a lot of war experience.
Starting point is 01:14:48 He was very fucking respected. And you guys will have a fucking interesting dinner conversation also. He would be good. I think that to get a perspective maybe from the UK guys would be cool stas in the through dark guys I can give you his contact. I don't know. I know it would be around for a shot show but whenever it is I think it could be cool to hear what how the cultures are the same or different from over there.
Starting point is 01:15:20 And if it's something in a non-tactical space at some point, I gotta say my sisters doing really cool things in Canada. She's really helping indigenous community. She was like a pro boxer. She's dabbled in everything from acting to modeling and fitness and she's, you know, like me, at a hard time processing my brother, our brother passing. But she's a fucking fighter, a scrapper, so. Maybe that would happen at some point. Yeah, most of it, it's fucking my family and my friends, man. Right on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Well, hey, I'm answers, I wish you the best of luck and make this a lot. Oh, thanks so much. Well, see you guys. It's fucking hell, yeah. Cheers. The Bullwork Podcast focuses on political analysis and reporting without partisan loyalties. Real sense of day job who sprinkled on our PTSD? So, things are going well, I guess.
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