Shawn Ryan Show - #64 Jim Caviezel - #1 Most Evil and Unforgivable Sin Will Haunt You for Eternity

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

Jim Caviezel is an Actor and Producer, known for his work in box office hit films like “The Count of Monte Cristo” and “Deja Vu.” His most influential film, “The Passion of the Christ,” cast him in the lead role as Jesus of Nazareth.  Caviezel’s career was seemingly put on hold in Hollywood due to his unapologetic and authentic depiction of Christ and his being outspoken on a subject his new film “The Sound of Freedom” gives audiences a harsh look at: Child trafficking. In this episode, Caviezel shares miracles from the set of The Passion plus a deep dive into how his new film will tear the veil on sinister happenings all around the globe. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://bubsnaturals.com - USE CODE “SHAWN” https://moinkbox.com/srs https://betterhelp.com/shawn Jim Caviezel Links: The Sound of Freedom Tickets - https://www.angel.com/tickets/sound-of-freedom Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/therealjimcaviezel Please leave us a review on Apple & Spotify Podcasts. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website | Patreon | TikTok | Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey guys we're having dinner right now with Jim. I know you guys have been waiting a long time for this one. He's coming out right now. Please comment, save the children below to help us with the algorithm. You guys know that's a hard to overcome and buy a ticket to Sound of Freedom. Love you all. Enjoy the show. This is to all of the agents that are out there that are very well aware of what's going on with the children. They know a lot and that are scared from coming forward. I saw, I actually, I did the passion of the Christ when we had, when the movie

was over, two people that had committed murder came forward and turned themselves in. That was how powerful that film is. This one has the reverse. You watch it. You feel God's love. And the power and this movie sound of freedom. And it makes you unafraid. I was willing to come forward and speak truthfully

on things like a drain of chrome, Oregon harvesting, and was severely reprimanded by much of the media and they claimed their fact-checkers knew more, but they don't know like you guys know. I put you against them time. But I was a burden that I was no longer burdened with anymore. My career I would never put in front of the children. And I just ask you to look in your heart, to go to the film Sound of Freedom, which is a phenomenal movie which represents you. And let that be your word against what these liars have done for a long, long time, your word which is from God and to speak the truth to the American people. My prayers are with you.

I love you guys. Thank you for all the help that you gave me. Thank you for all the help that you gave me. [♪ Music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in to talk about. So you, just a quick intro, actor, Christian, husband, father, abolitionist, acting for 30 plus years, you're a devout Catholic, you allow your fate to guide you on the projects that you choose. You've been married since 1996, which is incredible. Congratulations.

You are a father to three adopted children from China, two with brain tumors and one that had cancer. Amazing. Amazing. How are they? They're doing great. Yeah. We're very, very blessed. How old are they? Oh, this is 23. Oh, amazing. Then 21. And then the youngest is 13. How old were they when you adopted them? The two oldest were five when we got them. And then the youngest was just a year old. That's amazing. And we didn't know what was going to happen. I just finished the passion. Our first, the producer of the passion, his wife, Susie, was in the back of the church.

She had a picture of this little Chineman with a tumor on the top of his head, and she said, will you adopt him? And I was looking at his eyes, and I heard Jesus say to me, from a little boy's mouth, he said, will you love me? And I said, yes. So she asked me, will you adopt him? But I wanted to do more than that. So that began the first of the adventure and my wife heard the words,

take the ones I send you. Wow, yeah. That is, thank you for sharing that. Sure, that's incredible. So I am a, I just found Faith a couple months ago. I grew up a Catholic and when I joined the Seal Teams and some of the things that I saw just destroyed my faith for the better part of 20 years. You saw in the Seal Teams or did you saw in your faith

in the seal teams? Okay. And that just carried on until literally a couple months ago, I had a pretty profound incident. The way I described it was everywhere I looked, I hated what I saw and I started vocalizing it. And we had a discussion just before filming about this, but it was everything. It was the stuff that I'm seeing happening to children, the pedophilia, the surgeries, the puberty blockers, the abortions, all of it, and everything else that's in company, encompassing our country right now and the world.

And when I started vocalizing it, I hit a point. There was a day where God showed up and instead of everywhere I looked, what I saw, what I hated, everywhere I looked, he was right there talking to me. And literally I had five or six different things happen within 48 hours. And it was incredible.

So I think it's very not ironic, not a coincidence that you're here just a couple months later and I've had some other interviews that we discuss. We go into this in detail, but everybody on the show always gets a gift. And usually it's a bag of vigilance leak gummy bears from my company, but for you, I wanted to give you this rosary.

So I want to tell you about that rosary. When I found my faith, I got public about it, and a good friend of mine, his name is Dom Razo. We were together at Siltime 2 and then he went on to a development group, Siltime 6. And when he saw that I'd come out and announced my faith, he sent me that rosary to give me protection and I've carried it with me every day since. Oh my goodness. And with the stuff that you're about to uncover,

with this new film, it sounds a freedom. I think maybe you're gonna need some of that protection. So it's my honor to pass that on to you. Thank you very much. You're welcome. But you know, I remember having a conversation with Sean Penn a long time ago when we were doing the thin red line.

He asked me a lot of questions about faith and everything. And the character that I was in the film, his name is Whit, private first class Whit in the World War II film. And Sean and I, like in the morning and the night, would go run and stuff. And he mentioned to me about, you know, this, all this stuff, and the church, and things going on. Why even?

Why? And I said, there's a place in the Bible, John the Baptist, when he cried out. Here's a guy that lived on Locust and Honey and had nothing. And he lived on every breath from God. His own father, Zachariah, doubted God. So I imagine that when he was born, he had to go out and find another father, the real father, adopted father. And at some point God taught him everything. You know, how to...

Every breath got new it. And once he understood it, he was like probably two, three people showed up. It was like a needle in a haystack. They found him and their hearts got on fire. And then they went and told the people at the temple and they all started coming out. But not in, you know, first probably 10, 20, then eventually in the thousands where they're there. And Jesus, often mentions, is these Pharisees, the

priests at the time, like to admire their own factories, their own robes and everything. You see, they set at the highest places. And eventually, they had no more audience, see? They were out with John, the Baptist. They went out to see him and they thought, hmm, we need to recruit him over to our side. And eventually

they probably tried and then whatnot and then he called them out. He says you brood of Iperus, you dentathies and what you've done to the people are you and he said, you think because you're a Jew, you're getting into heaven. God could turn these stones into Jews. I thought of that myself, you know, that I could, I was given an incredible gift.

And, but I'm always better actor with God, that he does something to me that's so much better. And but I'm always better actor with God. That he does something to me that's so much better. And so I'm a slave to him. I want to be, he's holy, I'm not whole. I'm not whole body, mind and soul. I'm not without him. And I'll always, you know, when I'm with people like Sean, then who is brilliant genius actor, I'm just, I have a gift, but I'm so much better

at my gift with him and in me. There's a lot of temptations in the business, but I'm so much better at my gift with him and me. There's a lot of temptations in the business, but I'm not an easy kind of love. So, you know, I'm very fortunate that my wife Carrie loves me and my children love me. I'm very content with that. But the gift really is, you know, how many people I can help Jesus to lead to heaven, because ultimately that's where we need to be. Recently, a friend of mine, David

Rodriguez, you know, when we met back in 2004 when I did the passion. And he was this big, you know, incredible fighter he was. You see, but he started asking me stuff about the passion. He said, do you actually believe in that stuff? And I said, I do. And it was worth everything. It was worth my life because when I first got into the, about 14 years old, I really bad thing happened in Iran.

I was running out on a road, and my feet were all cut up and I didn't have any. I ran my gate or 10 miles to my friend's house. And I was doing the GI Jane Hashim Shulan, the guy next to me, was a seal like you. And he said, you can't hurt us. And I remember thinking that when you're wounded in the heart, physically you can do anything to me,

but because my heart was so wounded and I ask God to help me I I reached a point where I didn't want to live any longer and When people especially now the suicide rate is so high And I always tell you know people that are out there thinking I'm gonna end it. I said, can you imagine if I'd ended it? How God would have said, look, you young man, boy, 14th. Here's what I had planned for you. I was getting to play his son.

What a sad thing that would have been. But I cried out to God and I asked, Lord, you know, what's my purpose? What do you want me to do in this life? And he came to me in a movie theater. A presence came, a thousand, your soul knows this, but about a thousand yards. A thousand yards exactly landed outside this presence, landed outside the theater. Now you've got to be careful when you ask God, tell me, what's my purpose? He was exactly landed outside this presence, landed outside the theater. Now you've got to be careful when you ask God, tell me, what's my purpose?

I meant it. And he came into the theater and I felt this love all around me. And this presence, it was as if I was God's only child. That's how much He loved me. That was everything to me. It meant everything that somebody out there loved me like that. And then the presence went from love to peace. I had never felt this peace before.

It was definitely from heaven. And then the voice said, I'd like it to be an actor. And it left an indelible mark on my heart. At the time, I was like, I don't know anything about how to do that stuff. But I had no idea I had the gift. And so I came to Hollywood and I had this vision where Jesus, how do I do it? But I had this vision that Jesus, how do I do it?

But I had this vision that Jesus would always take care of me, like a child, like a baby. And I went from that to, you know, this was 10 years of just, you know, the difference between one of your team guys asked me about what was, how hard was it. And I said the only difference is I didn't have an instructor. I had to do it on my own. I had to look everything up. I had to, and it broke me.

But I got up in the morning. I really, my instructor was Jesus. I would go to Mass at 5.30 in the morning, at 6.30, I get up at 5.30, I was at Mass at 6.30, and then I would go down and do what I knew. I was playing basketball for 18 years, playing college, and then that's all I knew so I was working out with all the players down at Loyal MarMount and then UCLA. I eventually started doing workouts with NBA players and creating workouts for them.

During some point, I got an opportunity for the thin red line and it was 14 auditions later. I got the film but what I loved about it was that you know I'm my friend Brad Perra passed away when he said when I met Jim he was guarding Paul Pierce, it was NBA Old Famer and he was talking smack to Paul Perris. And I was, because my friend Phil Weber, who's brilliant NBA coach, and just a genius guru when it comes to just positive mental focus. My dad played for Wooden UCLA, but he had the pyramid of success. He had the industriousness work ethic and the enthusiasm. Those are the two corner blocks of the pyramid of success that never changed. So that mentality, prodding Paul Pierce was like, I don't care.

I'm not making the team. I just want to be, go to my auditions and have that fire in my gut to overcome the nervousness that you feel when you're about ready to perform. And 14 auditions in a row, and it was always through this great spirit. It's the Holy Spirit, but it pushed through my mental and my physical at the highest level constantly and kept me at the same time keeping me humble and content. You had mentioned something happened when you were eight that caused you to do that run.

And if I've heard you correctly. 14? 14? Yeah. What was that? It's hard to answer because there's a forgiveness there and bringing it up would do damage forgiven that individual. Sometimes, like, when we were doing the Passion of the Christ, the pain that I had to go through was so incredible.

It was hypothermia, hypothermic. My makeup times were from two in the morning till 10 and from 10, 30 to 4, 30, it was freezing. Then, you know, they take the skin a new application that is now all Hollywood uses now. And those guys didn't even get an award for it. Christian Tinsley, Keith Vandolin, Christian Tinsley, Vent, this during the scurging scenes were used to,

but it was burning my skin at the time. We were getting it down. And so I was in a lot, a lot, a lot of pain on that movie. And then I had to learn to air and make the Hebrew and the Latin. So I only get three hours of sleep. Then I would get up and then they created a cross with a bicycle seat in the middle. And then I'd hold my hand here and they would tie it. I'd just fall asleep, standing,

or sitting on this little bicycle seat, and then the cold would hit again. And then eventually I got a pneumonia, and then it was on every antibiotic in the world, but I was getting aroused. And so they would try to move me around, but to do other scenes I could. But so during that one particular take I had dislocated my shoulder and I bit

through my tongue and it's the part where Mary comes over. And now before that I said, God, you know, I'm done trying to do. There was a lot of frustrating things that were happening. I just said, God, I don't want them to see me. I only want them to see you. And that's when the whole film changed. But it came with the cross hitting me in the back of the head, biting through my tongue and my cheek,

and then my mouth bowquade with blood. And when you see me turn on this particular take, there's a stream of blood that is coming out of my mouth. I turn to Mary and I say, Oluy, Ami, Hoda, Khadish, the whole mother. I make all things new. And at that point, then I take the cross, now my shoulders dislocated, and everything had, I make all things new and at that point then I take the cross and I'm my shoulders dislocated and everything had I got it over. I think that if you look

deep I don't like particularly drinking piss and vinegar but if I have to I will and especially when the outcome is saving souls. And I go back to myself when I didn't feel like anybody did. And God said he did. And so I want to love him and bring as many souls as I could to him. So it was always in my intention in that film that when people see it, that they do not see me, that they only see Jesus. It's one of the,

not one of the most realistic film I've ever watched. And you really, it really puts things into perspective. It did for me when I watched it. Backtracked in just a little bit and then I want to ask you a couple more questions about the passion. You mentioned forgiveness.

And that whatever happened, it sounds like it was obviously very traumatic. I think a lot of people, including myself, struggle with forgiveness, with forgiving others, and maybe even forgiving themselves. And that creates a lot of toxicity, a lot of resentment, a lot of negative emotions and how long did it take you to find out a forgive? Sean, you know, it's a journey. I think there's, it's not some people, I think it's instant. I think others, I think it's continually, and I'll tell you this because there's pride involved in our whole makeup. And there's the, what are you listening to?

You know, there's two masters here. Because one of the masters obviously is the angel of light, the Luciferian. Lucifer. And went, but next to God's light is, you can see the darkness everywhere. When I focus on the Scripture, and I think of the things that I've done, that I've my own sin, and I shouldn't be forgiven for it,

and he's willing to do that for me. And I have no choice but to do that for others. I'm not telling you that that person that's hurting you, you have to keep being with that person. Jesus clearly says at one point, you know, does the shoes off your sandals and move on. But you can pray for the individual. And here's what, when you think of principalities of good versus evil, every time you pray for them,

you're moving angels in over them. So you're really reflecting them. They don't like the light on them. They want the demons around them. But by putting those angels around them, you bring light on them. And so then, but there's too many things to do in this world to just keep holding onto those things. And then you ultimately, for the love of, you know, we were talking about my

children earlier, for the love of my children and my wife, why afflict them with the vengeance that's eventually going to come out? And it's, and you're not going to be who you used to be. It's like Darth Vader, remember Star Wars, become more mechanical and you lose the child like quality in you. You're not free anymore. You're oppressed. My prayer has always been, you know, can I imagine that individual that I want to hate to come back into the light again? Yes, if that's your purpose, then pray for them. That's the best chance they have ever coming back.

I mean, if really if they're that dark and that evil. But there are sins that are unforgivable. And Jesus talks about those two. That's the rejection of the Holy Spirit. And that is a lot what is with this whole thing, with the children, that many of them will never ever get a chance, because when a lot of these pedophiles, and when they do these sins, God is telling them, do you understand? This is it. And they do these sins. God is telling them, do you understand?

This is it. And they do it anyway. And so let the dead bury their dead at that point. I can't wait to dive into this subject. It's something that I've made a promise to my audience that I would dive deep into this subject this year and continue moving on. Back to the, back to the passion. You had a extremely successful Hollywood career. You, I just want to say also that I mean you are a fantastic role model and there aren't especially

coming from Hollywood. I don't believe there are very many people in that circle that are good role models and I have a tremendous amount of respect for you because of it and just doing some research on you before you got here. You've turned down scenes that involve nudity, that involve sex, for your faith, for respect out of your wife. I've not heard of anybody else doing that. Also, specific scenes that have to do with violence from what I understand, you also turn those down.

And it's just really refreshing to see somebody that can stand by their values without amount of pressure in front of them and not fold. And I want to commend you for that. It all, every film has something in it that it, a power. And then you go, okay, what's necessary? What's not necessary? It does not mean that I will not play the devil in a movie.

But the difference is I don't go to the devil to ask him how to play him. I go to God to teach me how to play this. Because when I do, it should unearth you. There was a film I did with Denzel Washington, Dejavu, and that had a lot to do with it. And so I got to write my monologue and piece in there with Denzel, Tony Scott, and Jerry Brockhamer allowed me to do it.

But I looked at a lot of the, along the way, I've always got to work with really good agents, ATF, FFBI, CIO, and I write notes down, and then I bring that back into the script. And when I got to watch some of the interrogations that I got to see, you always hear another voice coming out of these guys, like the devil speaking right through them, and talking about their destiny, their make it in their maker, their time.

And I just would write a lot of that down. And I would pray deeply about it going into the scene because when an individual watches the movie, you're watching film, time suspends itself. You know, if I said you're going to sit in this room and that chair for two hours. But if you do, if the actors play it right, you're so entranced into the film that your time just goes by like that. And so I'm still that 14, 15-year-old kid that watches a movie.

And in my mind mind set and say, what would keep me on the edge of my seat, what would keep me and transcend into this character? And the passion of the Christ was very brutal. Especially when we went to the cat of nine tales. Again, I'm working with the best people in the world that are revealing to me. This is really what happened.

So when we were looking at the Shroud of Turin, you can see the Shroud of Turin is an image of Jesus. And when you start going into the track lines on his body, you can see the bamboo sticks, the Romans would have used on him. But then you all see the deaf, deep ones where it looks like the Grand Canyon and your skin. And they're like, I remember Keith Vanderlin saying,

people will go into shock now when they see this. I mean, this is a cat and nine tails, this is a horrific. And he said, I'll take him to the edge. So it was very brutal. But in that particular case, that violence was important because that violence is our sin. So it's always about committing to what this film needs to be. If you use every profanity in the book, constantly, eventually you get

numb to it. But you use it once, it'll hit you. If you need it, if it's necessary in the film. Like, for example, if you watched, it's a wonderful life. That film was very profound in its time, and very hard to watch. And during Christmas, the most beautiful time of year, and you don't wanna drop an F-bomb in that movie, you know? But if you watch it, it's very powerful because this guy wants to end his life. It's over.

He doesn't see what his value in his life and this angel comes to him and shows him. George, don't you understand? If you weren't around these people, they would never made it without you. We have to look at our lives like that. One of the most profound scenes in that movie was when Jimmy Stewart, the emperor had that camera on him. He says, God, if you're out, please help me. And those were real tears.

That man flew 26 missions in a liberator over Germany, World War II. And you understand that when you're flying over in that tight formation, and one of those planes goes out, everybody has to remain quiet on their calms. Stewart lived with PTSD his entire life, and especially in that scene.

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I mean, if you... So I get a call that I knew Mel Gibson was, but I did not know it was Steve McAvity. Now it was this key producer, main, main guy. That guy did Braveheart, which was the previous film Mel had directed 15 years earlier. And so they invited me to do a film about what it was, I think it was Tom Hanks and Mel Gibson were going to do this together. It was on Mavericks. It was the big surfing wave. And the director they wanted to direct it was Kevin Reynolds who just directed me in the County Money Crystal. So I went to meet them and I met and Emelle was even supposed to show up, but

he did about 40 minutes in. And we were talking about the movie. I didn't think the script was there yet. Now I was going to be a hard film to shoot. I'm not a surfer, but I was a basketball player. So I thought maybe, you know, anyway, but the material wasn't there. I was talking to him about the material and then all of a sudden, male pivot to something. And then I went back to when I was a young man in the theater. And I said, oh my God, this is why he called me to become an actor. And I said, you want me to play Jesus, don't you?

And he looked at me, he was smoking a cigarette. And he just... Yeah, put his head down. And he was really scared. And I said, okay, I just what? Like, how can you, what? Okay. So I had all that preparation. What was the

fear do you think? Well two days later he called me at my house and I was taking the garbage out and I heard I picked up the phone and I said yeah I was busy and he goes hey, Jim is melt and I said, Mel who he goes I don't know, Mel Brooks. Hey, you smoking a cigarette and he goes, do you still want to play this Jesus guy? If you do, you may never work in this town again. And I was like scared. It scared me. I just, I was telling you, I just bought a Lamborghini.

And I was, I'm have to give all this stuff back. And I was scared for a moment. And then this piece came over me. And I could feel it. It was from heaven. And I said, look, man, we're all called to carry our cross. If you don't pick up and carry your cross, you will be crushed by the weight of it.

And then he got really quiet on the phone. And then I said, oh my god, you said, what? I said, I just realized my initials are JC and I'm 33 years old. And he goes, God, you're freaking me out. You hung up the phone. And then Maccabee Dee came probably five days later. And then, you know, how was it? Did Mel have fear too to ask,

sure he was, what do you think his fear was? None of us are good enough to do it. None of us are, it's because of who we are, our past, everything, what we're talking about. But the shame. But I told my friend about that. His name was Yvonne, and I said, he said, you know, Jim God doesn't always choose the best.

But he chose you. What are you going to do about it? You know, I kept my rosary with me. I prayed, I went to, I took the Eucharist every day and I went to confession every day. The rosary's awesome because you're meditating on the entire Gospels. And when I was up there on the cross, I would pick 10 people out of the audience,

actually 11. One, the first one was the art father, and I did 10 hellmarries, but I would start, I continued to pray the sorrowful mysteries. I was up there, and I started the garden and get so many. I thought of the entire garden, and I went to the scourging scene. I thought of the entire garden. And I went to the scourging scene. I thought of the scourging scene that I went

from there to the crown of Thorns' humiliation. And then, and I would just look at one thing because I couldn't feel my hands anymore. My hands were numb. At the end of the movie, my body's blue. And they brought a stand up. And this doctor came up. And he could hear my heart was in a fib.

I would have to have two major heart surgeries, including open heart. And then I was struck by lightning on the last shot of the movie. And so I just kept going, but I remember hearing Jesus say to me and my two clothes, and I said, you're not close enough.

So this, I was at peace that, you know, this, if this happened, I felt like I did something in this life. I served my purpose. Why would plain Jesus Christ destroy your relationship with Hollywood or potentially destroy it? Why would they shun you? Well, they did it immediately when I took the film. I was on all the studio list.

They have to answer that question. They said... The Christian bigotry is the most accepted form of bigotry. There is. And they need to be called to task on it. Why? But here's the other thing. Why do we pay money to go to their shit? Why? Why support it anymore?

If we, as Christians, said, that's it. And this is like, we need you on this film, sound of freedom. But because it's amazing. Now, I don't, I don't do faith-based films. I hate that. You know why? We never used it as a crutch on the passion. And then I was suddenly, we were the faith-based film. We never called ourselves faith-based.

We were, here's a phenomenal movie. We can be anybody in the world. We have the truth, right? The truth is such a free, go to the film, see if it does. But now it's like, we made a faith-based film for you. And so you owe us your money. No, no, you don't. You don't put that and don't manipulate them. And that's another thing. It's not Christianity. Is that crap?

Is, you know, like we're one of the club. I don't use that thing that I'm saved. I look at what Apostle Paul said. And when you contemplate your salvation, do it in fear and trembling. That's how I look at it. And finish the race. My race isn't done. I've got a lot more to go, but I don't like that manipulation stuff and Jesus is not a manipulator and That is not Christianity at all. It needs to be authentic. Jesus is authentic It's the most authentic thing that has ever existed Was that a tough decision for you at all or was it snap of the finger?

I'm a hundred percent on no matter what happened the passion. Yes, because of what happened in the movie theater and I was young. Yeah, we talked a little bit about spiritual warfare before yes, we started recording and With my new With my new faith. I think it's my mission to spread the word. And it's, it's already connecting me to people that I never would have been connected with before, like yourself, a couple other people that are coming on the show soon. And everybody that's around me, but is a believer that's close to me, has come to me and told me, be careful. You need to watch out. Eli Crane told me, there are no free shots on target

when you're talking about spiritual warfare. And that evil will start to try to seep into my life the louder I get about this. Did you experience anything like that? That right there, what you're saying? That's garbage. Okay. And I want to tell you, Michael the Archangel is patron saint to the Navy Seals.

Do you know this prayer? Saint Michael the Archangel, defend his in battle, be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. Make God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, Prince of the heavenly host by the power of God cast into hell Satan and all those wicked spirits

that moved throughout the world. These entities will pay a high price when they dare get near God's children, and your God's child, your prayers, see every time they do that, they risk being tossed into the furnace forever. And so this is their job. They serve underneath this wicked beast and ease of beast.

But we have to be, you're different. Jesus often references sheep all the time. And when Jesus goes and leaves to find that one rescue sheep was which I was, but I've gone to other levels. So what would that be? Well, when he's gone looking for that sheep, that lost sheep, he's got sheep dogs that got wolf in them and then we'll kill any of them that come near those sheep. We defend them. We protect them. They're all so wolves that have converted and that's a different type of guy. That guy is lethal. So you've got the wolves coming in, you've got converted wolves, they know how they hunt,

and then you've got the sheepdog. This is how it's got to be, to take them out. He's allowing us to step up like David. I got this wrong the other day. It was Samuel, I said, Jeremiah. It was Nathan, but it's Samuel. Samuel's prophet goes and finds this, it's told that out of this man's home is going to be one of the heads, it's going to be the head of King of Israel. So he goes

and meets all the boys. And he says, none of these are going to be the head of Israel. And then the father, he asked the father by chance, he had another kid, he says, yeah, back, imagine the father didn't even think nothing of his own son, David, it's outside his a sheep herder, nothing. Man, I want to be a sheep herder like that. I want to love God in a profound way that when I was 16 years old and they were talking smack about my God That ain't gonna happen around me so I said I'm gonna go down and I'm gonna kill this son of a bitch Goliath

After I kill him you're gonna come around and take him out But David was what was profound. It was like nobody talks about my father this way was profound, it was like nobody talks about my father this way. Nobody. He loved them that much. Can you imagine our good God, he's not loved enough by us. He will gladly send his armies to protect us, but we don't love him enough. We have to be above the status quo of this modern-day Christianity crap, which I'm telling you, this prosperity gospel is shit. Do you know that? The Bible wants you to have beautiful things, man.

That's fine. If you can hand it all back, the things that I have in this life, Yeah, just eat it. That's fine. If you can hand it all back, the things that I have in this life, my wife, my children, that family that's it with God to me. I love beautiful things, I love Lamborghini and all that, but hey listen,

if I have to give it back, find done. It's over. but hey listen, if I have to give it back, find done. It's over. So this, it's not authentic. And there are a lot of wolves and sheep's in this modern day Christianity. It's fake. It's in the church. It's in the clergy. It's in the bishops. Pastors.

They'll tell you. But the one that hits me is the one where I know God's here, you know? I don't know you that long. I walked in here and I feel it already. I knew it the moment I met you said, you're going to know this guy for the rest of your life. Thank you. Jim, the reason I'm asking is there were... There are some definite things that happened during that film that I would consider to be a deterrent, especially to weak people.

You were electrocuted, struck by lightning. We talked about some of the other things that happened. We talked about, I mean, even from the beginning, when you accepted it, you knew you were going to be shunned. Do you think that that was a deterrent from the devil to keep you from doing this? Sure. On the way up the hill, he said, you're a dead man, and my response to him was praise be to God.

I didn't want to live to see what was going to come from that movie anyway. It might be my only chance in the heaven. Now, people can say, Jim, you just don't know the bottom. Get out. It's what you do. Faith without your works is dead. First James. So many people say, but they don't do. And I was doing. And I felt good at what I had done and was doing. Now, fifth take, it was bizarre that the wind was blowing hard, and the clouds were,

it felt like I could jump up and touch them. And that was very mystical, what was happening in the ground. It could feel something in the ground. You could feel something in the ground. And then the wind was blowing. And I couldn't see everybody. There were about 350 people that were around me on a hill. And the wind was blowing and then I couldn't hear the wind. And I could feel the suctioning occur.

And then I was probably more like three seconds I felt like five, but it was probably less than that. And then boom, I shot me on my body. I saw the back side, not here, here. And then I was back, then Yommy Kaleini runs over, and I remember looking at him and all of a sudden, I saw his hand blow up. Sparks came out, there was another shot that came down.

And then I was in shock. Then I was on medication. Until 2009 was my first surgery. It's Stanford. My second one was a Cleveland Clinic in 2014. And that saved me, you know, saved my life. I died on the operating table. I've never told that, but I died. Dr. Gillin, off Dr. Griffin were my doctors. They witnessed it. They brought me back. But I was supposed to be here. But when I, the reason

why I brought that up is I felt incredible peace and love. That's waiting for us. When you nod, it went, yes, it was amazing. And I didn't, you know, I had this, you know, just hanging on for a second. It was really calm. And then they brought, I saw the whole thing, didn't hurt. The moment it was like taking an egg, cracking it, and then it just came out. And I was dead, I didn't have to breathe anymore. And I was looking at everybody running the room, and they were panicking, I mean, they were doing stuff, but they were really scared. Wow, you'll remember this.

Oh, I saw it. I watched the whole thing. And I watched everything. And then I saw him put the flaps on, and then when I came back, that's when it hurt. But the horn, I heard the horn go off. It didn't hurt my ears. But I just, it was like when I first met God, you know, when he asked me to come to

actor, I felt this great peace and love. The reason why I'm talking about it right now is because so many people don't have the peace. They don't have the love. And when I was on the cross, you know, Jesus, he says seven things, and he says, woman, behold your son to John, he says this, John, behold your mother. An aromatic woman is in Tata, and then he calls her also a me mother, he differentiates. People have to say why? The woman is Genesis. I will put amnesty between the woman's seed and his. And the mother Mary The mother Mary is the art. She carries the Son of God to us.

And she is the most beautiful thing there's ever been. And he asks me to love, I'm obeying Jesus. I'm obeying him. Jim, why don't you go to Jesus? Because I'm obeying Jesus when I'm obeying Him. Jim, why don't you go to Jesus because I'm obeying Jesus when He told me to take me. Because the mother and the sons of the Ebiddi were at the foot of the cross. The mother's Ebiddi, John, James and John,

their mother was there. And sure, she went, wait, I'm the mother. There's Jesus often talks about, who's my brother, who's my sister? And he also says, I didn't come to bring peace into this world, I came like a sword to divide. And that's the generational sin that's passed on. A lot of us lose our own families. He says, who's my brother, you're my brother.

We're not of the same DNA, but we're adopted under God. You're my adopted brother, you know? My sister, my family. You, we can have new families, people that support us and our love for him. And you'll find that, you know, it's like, how Jesus found these fishermen,

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Okay. But you're dead. It's all good. But on that side, it's like nothing. It's amazing, you know. And I, I had an experience when I was doing the passion and Jesus visited me a couple times. It was pretty amazing. And one of them was he was off the left side of my bed

and he was weeping. And it was extraordinary because I was so cold, I had a crucifix, the true cross in my left hand. I was chained around my wrist, and I was hypothermic, so I was always over 90 degrees in the room, and I had tons and tons of clothes on, and I was shaking, and I hurt to shake because my shoulder was torn. And I looked over the left side of my bed,

and there he was, And I didn't hesitate. I didn't go, oh my gosh, I'm having an apparition here. I just went, why is my Lord weeping? And I got on my bed, and I put my arms around him. And I said, Lord, what's wrong? And he pointed to the ground. And on the ground were all of these cards, jacks, kings and queens. No number cards, just jacks, kings and queens. And they had all these face cards all over. And their faces

were death-faces. Jesus says, I am the vine, you're the branches, you live in me, live for eternal life, you know. But when the leaf separated from the tree, that was their death mask right before they entered into hell. These people were giving incredible gifts all throughout time. And they started with one for me, nine for God, two for me, eight for God, and eventually nine for me, one for God, and then all for me. This is how the game works. And I knew that he was telling me

when I asked him, I don't want them to see me. I only want them to see you. I believe he was warning me. Do you understand that where this could go? Is there going to be a version of you going to heaven? And then there's a version of you going to hell. And I said, I will never betray you. I know what Peter said.

I've learned from them. I will not do that to you. When you asked me earlier, you've done this, this, this, this, yes, those are good things, but you don't want to have a zero in your life. One time zero is zero, but so it was a billion times zero.

You lose everything. So it's a billion times zero. He lose everything. So it's a daily thing and finish the race. Finish it strong. That's a great way to put it. That makes a lot of sense. Thank you. Let's move into your latest project. Sounds of freedom.

With Tim Ballard. How did that come about? By making the right decision today, Tim Ballard saw the Count of Monte Cristo, and that was a rough one. That was a hard film, and that was a rough one. That was a hard film, because it was a point there where they removed God from the screenplay. And I asked him to put it back in, and they did.

But the scenes were too long. They had to be shortened. But that God will give me justice was not in there when I got the rewrite when I came to Ireland to shoot it. That had to go back in. So I was the wrong guy for the movie unless they put it back in. Thankfully they did. So that's the film that Tim saw. The other film was the passion and he was profoundly moved by those two films. Now because of the trouble I got in after the passion, when they clearly said, this is an anti-Semitic film, and I clearly said that Jesus is a Jew, and we have science behind this. I've done nothing wrong, and this film is a righteous film and look at the public. They love this movie.

Why will you not allow me to work in this town? Okay, now I did get parts. I had friends that gave me great favors and helped me along, but it wasn't the same from that point on. Now Tim Ballard saw those two films, and I had not made the decision. I'd never been a part of it. But again, when God asked me, I'd like you to be an actor. It wasn't going to be easy. This was going to be one of the hardest things I've ever done. And it just shorted the passion. But it was the hardest thing because of the children.

Now Tim Ballard came to me. First was Eduardo Varastigui, the producer of the movie, and Alejandro Monteverdi, the director, both very talented and both extremely needed in this particular team. It required a producer that was going to lose all the money on the movie and we were finished. Disney was going to buy Fox, so Disney obviously,

when they saw this movie, they're executives that want to film. But they're, you know, eventually the bad one out. And this is not something they want to represent their company. Counter-money crystal. Okay, but not this one. They did not want me for this role. Whoever it was at Fox went to him, met with them. And he said, no, I got to have this guy. This is what I want. So, so I met those three individuals and that led us to go down to Columbia and my wife just saw a movie, our show called Narcos and she didn't want me anywhere near down there in this particular time when we were down there. It was crazy. And Tim said, well, tell Carrie, my and wife that Jim will have 30 Navy seals around.

Sure, some of them are Rangers in Delta 2, but anyway. They always say, see, see, see, see. Anyway, one day I was at work, she gets on the phone, she calls me, and she goes, do you have protection around there? I say, oh yeah. And I don't know, maybe only two today. Where are they? They told me.

And one, this particular moment they were on a mission, they took down a really big group of guys, and they saved 200 children while we were filming. So it was, it wasn't the safest place. We were at one point, we were in Cartel and I, area and, and where I was shooting, where we were shooting, I went to go get my sunglasses and, you know, I guys like you coming up to me and going, you can't ever do that again.

They'll pick you up here in the heartbeat. And we were in their territory. What, what, what part of Columbia were you in? Bogota, Cartagena, Santa Marta, Santa Marta, and then Medellin. Oh, you did quite the tour. Oh yeah, yeah. And then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, what he's doing is saving children all across the world from being sex-trafficked. Well, it's exploited sexually. Yeah, so the he CIA moves to homeland security

and the frustration is he's getting these pedophiles and these traffickers, but he's not able to save the children. That's what he really wants to do. They were down in Colexico, and where they took down the Ernst Limpachinsky, the guy that I come in one of the worst trafficker pedophiles they ever seen. And they picked this guy up, and this little boy, five years old, and he says, we'll save my sister. And that was a question. It's like a mark on his heart, and he couldn't,

and it's like Bible, where Jesus says the kingdom of heaven, it's like a pearl. He would sell everything, do anything to attain this. That's what he did. He went down to Columbia, sold his house to hit the money he had out. He was 10 days of getting his pension and he goes down to Columbia to find this little girl. So it's like, that's what, that's what dimmed it. Yeah, that's what he did. I had no idea. That's incredible. Yeah. So it's taken the film, but with a huge heart. So is the entire film in Columbia? Yes. I mean, we shot it at parts in the US and collect the border. Okay.

Let's talk about some facts to go into sex trafficking. It's considered a modern form of slavery. The United States is the number one consumer and producer of child abuse content. The Department of Homeland Security estimates that child trafficking has an annual global profit of a $150 billion. Human trafficking has already passed the illegal arms trade and is going to pass the drug trade, about two million children

are trafficked every year worldwide. That's how serious this is. That's just a few. That's just the beginning of it all. I mean, the trafficking, it's first part to the public, you know, I've learned, you get too far in front of the narrative they don't believe you. If you were talking about trafficking around to 90 when I was doing Monty Christo, you'd never heard about it.

And a reconspiracy theorist. Do you think this is getting bigger or do you think that the information is just getting out? Do you think, I guess when I'm asking, do you think it was always this? I think it's much bigger than that. You think it's growing? Oh, I think it's already bigger than that. I think it's much bigger because I've talked to Tim

about the numbers from other guys and then gotten over to Tim and goes, yeah. I mean, those are good numbers and everything, but it's bigger than that because there's other forms of the business. This is just what we know. Yes, on that part, we've talked about 6 million.

Two million, at least, are also involved in the organ harvesting and all the other shit that's the stuff that's just beyond. They're cattle. These are cattle. It's like buying cows. What do you do with a cow? You milk them, you do it, but you all see the meat and all that, all this stuff. And it's far worse than people are willing to go to. But listen, it's not going to solve the problem by people. it's not going to solve the problem by people. I was, this is an analogy. I was a, a swimming in the ocean. I got into swimming and everything. And on the Ridley Scott movie and I swam and

it was kind of freeing, you know, breaking the certain, doing all that. But just that when you, you know, how many hundreds of feet down or how deep you are, some great white shark looking at you and going, is that a seal? What I see? And I say, God, please, please tell my mama human then, or something she'd mess with.

But anyway, I just, and I would pray in the water, just as, and of course, the common sense in me is you have a better chance to go down an airliner. But anyway, I went out and was filming South African. I got to dive great whites. It was fascinating. filming South African, I got to dive great whites. Fascinating. And every time we chummed the water and then we'd throw a tuna head out, and the great white would come by, he never just munched it.

Ever, never, not once. They always bumped. And so I guarantee you that if you were in the water and you got bought by a great white, the guy said to me, what do you think they're doing? He says they have a little brain, yours is bigger than theirs. You have to be smarter than them. And he said, yeah, but I said, they, you know, some of these fish, they're like whales, they're like two tons.

And he says, do you think they went to school in the morning mate? Do you think they set there and said, you weigh 4,000 pounds, he's only 200 pounds? No, you have to be smarter than them. So what do you do if a great white bumps you? And I said, well, I'd be scared, and I would swim to shore. Oh, and he says, you know how fast I can swim in the water?

He says, it's how fast I can swim in the water? He says it 40 miles an hour. So the fastest swimmer in the world cannot out swim this. So that's the smart guy. Now, he's actually the dumb guy. And when you splash, splash, splash, you are saying, come eat me. It's exciting him. He's saying, oh, you're food. Okay, it's not

the personal. Yeah, it's, you know, but he's going to have to eat you. So if you program it in your brain, that you're swimming, and you think about it a lot, what would you do? And he bumped you. If you immediately attacked him, it's only an instant that he bumps you. And you scratch his eyeball or grab his gill, he's gone. Doesn't want to mess with you, because these sharks, these great whites, in the womb, there, it's, if there's seven babies in there,

the winner is the one that eats every, all of them. That's how they're born. That's how they are fed in the womb. Then they're born, and they come out fighting and so they know they if They don't know what you are They're gonna bump you to see what what you do So think of that when it comes to children All right, you're you have four children. It's 4th of July

You're sitting outside there and you don't want to know about all the bad things that are going on your child's taken You're never going to see that child again now Go to that mother and father and ask him would you have wished you had some sort of plan? That could have prevented that from happening. They're gonna say yes But they won't they won't it. And if you just looked around, the film is powerful because when you watch it, you learn, oh, these are the warning signs. This is how routinely it occurs. This is what they're looking for. Then when you're looking, and it's what I talked about earlier, God here, it's like Michael, they are a Gangel, you're with you and you're a Stachery.

You're a predator, you're letting them know, you'll go after them. And they don't want anything to do this, so the great white walks away, no more trouble, no more. Why people don't do this? I don't understand. But this is not the Bible that I know, that I read. We have to weaponize ourselves from God's shield and his protection and stop being afraid of the devil. Do you know more Christians, these modern day Christians, are more afraid of the devil than they are of God? Let me explain. God could kill the devil without a glance.

The devil has no chance against God. This isn't it, you know, God here and the devil here, Jesus here and the devil here. It's this. It's more like, here's a creature, devil, here's a creature human. What are we, I'm going to ask Almighty to come into me Hoy este fin de boya al pueblo y Guillem me me ha preguntado si venías, te apuntas? ¿Qué dices? Pero este pueblo es de legísimos. Nada. Mira que fácil, primero 7 paradas de metro

hasta tochada y ahí trena abajo en la chodlo. No te lees. Este verano viaja de puerta, puerta y sin complicaciones con Bláblacá. Siempre encontrarás una cercana, incluso a última hora. So, next time we'll see how... Yeah! harvesting. And that's something I wasn't, I didn't realize that we were going to get into that. Is that in the film? Do we talk about that in the film? No, no, it doesn't go into that. Okay, we don't, we don't, we don't go into that. Okay, we go into the trafficking part of it. It's the going into what I had to look at to get to where I needed to go. So I have many agents that I've worked in 30 years, my career, the trust, me, that have worked with me. And when I was reading the script, I wanted to know about Tim Ballard. How is all of this true?

Yes. Okay. So then working with people that could give me information to can make this screenplay a lot deeper. And going through that is where I got in some, it was beyond, beyond how bad this really is. So you really wanted to understand every aspect of what's going on before. So I did a movie called Frequency and got to see things. I couldn't believe.

And I was just seeing a person that's dead and how they die and what it looks like is fascinating. And then how jaded these guys are when they stick Ben Gay and their noses and go into a room and you can taste stench. I mean you can taste it. I worked on a farm in Hanford, California. And my job was to get to cattle and the shoots, and the vets would put these vaccinations in them. And every now and then, one of these big half-friars would die. So we'd tie wire around their hooves and drag them out. And it was so hot. When we went back the next day, the stench was peeing on anything. Now you put human beings in there. And so, like, okay, so when I go and do a film, you, and you playing

these guys, you get to see what they're like. You get to see how they talk. And one guy's eating a sandwich while that stench is in the room and doesn't even bug him. You know, one of my buddies was pulling him something out of a river and it was just horrid and he's eating a bagel with cream cheese in it and it's a locks. He says, you know, are you kidding me? You're eating right now? He goes, I'm hungry. But that's so important,

because you can't, that's stuff that you got to put in this screenplay. You know, that has to be there. And you kind of understand who they are, where they've been and everything. And I always go to mass and I pray and everything. And I'm always looking at a corpus on a cross. And eventually, my life, I'm going to, unlike you, I know I'm going to die someday. But we all are going to die, right? So I wanted the people to have the most real experience that they could have on the screen

to a certain point, you know, and then the other balances, when you walk out of this film, your heart's on fire. This thing's unbelievable. It's an incredible movie. So we can't show you all that stuff that I've seen, but I can take you right to the edge, Alfred Hitchcock, and to understand how real it is,

one of the big things I was going through is Tim couldn't keep any of these agents for long because it was so bad of with kids. And so there's a scene in there so the stuff that I did get to see that made me weep. I started thinking about that. So what we did, and for those of you who are going to see this movie and don't want to know about this part, then shut your can't you know tell them. But we were shooting this and I had this idea

where we took the camera and this particular scene you don't see it but this video this man goes on and rapes this little girl and how old? Seven and you don't see it in the film. But you see him start to make the move. And then I asked the DP not to tell Alejandro the director this, but I asked him to shoot. So I took the video monitor, I moved it into my eyeball. So you could see my iris.

So the eyeball is 20 feet in a movie theater. And you see it start to sweat. And you see, you don't know, we can't quite make out what's going on. And then the eyeball, from what I'd seen, and the screaming is the hardest thing, the sound of it. So the sound of freedom, there's a sound that you hear from these little ones. There's so horrific that you will never forget it.

And for two years, I could never forget it. I had a friend of mine that came to my house and the morning she's weeping and she came over and I'm Debbie. She was hugging me. I was, what's wrong? You were bawling. I don't really. What was I doing? So I've been sleeping and I go to this dark place. And my body had to process this out in my dreams. And a lot of them I don't remember. But I had to pray deeply. But it motivated me to want to get these sons of bitches. And this is where I say it's the only unforgivable sin. They don't deserve to live any longer what they've done.

Jesus says better a millstone be hung around their necks that they be cast into the sea that you should ever hurt one of these little ones. These little ones. These little ones. So, a film is fantastic that way. It's powerful. It's, um, no studio can make this film. This is, um, the movie they don't want you to see, and especially the devil.

Doesn't want you to see in especially the devil doesn't want you to see this but When you are done people don't get up from the theater they fit Like they did in the passion like they did in Schindler's list You cry You're gonna laugh you gonna do all this stuff, but there's a huge adventure beyond the edge of your seat, but eventually, you know, when enough people walk out of this,

they're gonna start looking at, wait a minute, this misrodos on April 26 gave testimony, sworn testimony, that 85,000 children disappeared, cross-border, just disappeared. Where did they go? And then you start wondering, wait a minute. You know, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Public is now going, hey, three-letter agencies, what do you really know about what's

going on here? And I think most Americans are waking up to the fact they know what the hell is going on. How long did you immerse yourself in that environment to understand how profound this problem is. One day. It only took one day. No, on that part, one day, not even that, just I couldn't take it, but I had to understand

what he was going through. And I didn't know it was gonna go there. It was more like, are you sure you wanna go further than this? And I saw this movie a long time ago called, Silent Scream. They were saying the baby and the womb screams when they terrored it apart, they pulled it out.

That was hard to watch. And from that point on, I was always pro-life after seeing that. But the difference is on the outside, you get to hear on screen. And now the only way to combat that is to get them. And so my weapon is acting. My weapon is film. And I can use that and be the voice in that film through Tim and from God coming in. And it's a most important

film since the Passion of the Christ. These are films that will never be forgotten. I remember when Tim came down and asked me how it was going, and I said, we have lightning in a bottle. Well, you think it's gonna come out? No, it's taken us several years to get this thing out. And a devil didn't want this one out. But too late now. this one out.

But too late now. What kind of deterrence did you encounter during this film? It was like, I had a friend of mine that survived Immaculate, Ilibe Gaisa, she survived Rwanda. She said for 12 weeks, she was living in a bathroom, and they killed over a million people. and they killed over a million people. In a short period of time, I wouldn't say it's that. But before Rwanda occurred, she said it was like an evil, like Christmas in reverse for those 12 weeks,

in Rwanda when that was going on. And so prior to that, for the day of reckoning, it was when you would go down the street and you would hear them saying, you know, they come up to you. So if you're Mexico, they would say, do you want Ninias, Ninias, you know, you want, or sorry, you want Moaries women?

And the cigars would have tried to find but when you go down to Columbia, they would be like you want Moaries women And then they would say you want ninjas little boys little girls So you got to see like that And then when they were doing the film they were running operations Down there while we were there. Tim also, there's a gal, the villain in the film.

She's actually a real character. She was out of prison at that time. And so you got pressure from the people to arrest and then the ones on the inside. And I'm sure from the people to arrest, and then the ones on the inside. And I'm sure from the world, they're just involved in this. Because I think it goes all the way to flying parenthood, and the jugs of plastic containers, they use their children.

I think those go to the bio labs. And I don't say, I should say that I know they do that. They send them to places like that all over the world. These bio labs, I think it's a much, this is part of the whole business. What do they do with them in the bio labs? I think they do. Well,

are they making the adrenochrome or they're using it to from what I was told? Is that also for making agents to kill people with it? So if you're if I'm a half Irish, half Swiss, they can get my DNA code and create a cocktail and put it off in an airplane. And I'm the only one that dies of a heart attack in the plane.

And then you watch a James Bond movie and you go, well, that's really weird. So, wow. Again, this is a way, way ahead of the public narrative. But, you know, I talked to some, this is not something where it's suggested to me that this is probably why this world cabal is involved in all of this stuff, and it has a lot to do with blood of our children. The public is now awakening to the trafficking, but eventually leads you to other places like Epstein Island.

And in this film, we showed it to about 1,500 people in Las Vegas. And during a certain part of the film, about 1500 people in Las Vegas. And during a certain part of the film, they were all talking in the audience. There was like five showings every single time, talking. So at the end of it all, thank them all for coming. And then I said, white, during this part, you were talking. And they all yelled out, Epstein Island. And I said, why, to earn this part, you were talking,

and they all yelled out, Epstein Island. And I said, now I understand why they don't want this to be seen. That's heavy. It's listed in the NIH, at Dr.one of Chrome. Oregon Harvesting is another whole.

That's when the whole thing went off with me with Tim Ballard when he started talking to me about that. But again, I'm here to, we don't go into that in the film. The film is phenomenal. It probably just chased away millions of people from wanting to watch this movie. No, you didn't.

The film, the film is like it's a wonderful life. It's what? This is about what? And yeah, I know what is it tough to do with the D in China? It is, if you weren't around Tim Ballard, none of these children are gonna live. And as hard as it has been for him, he was willing to take it in the heart for Jesus.

And King David, when David was a boy, same thing. And I was the same thing. And God doesn't make junk, but he can use things that you've been through in your past. And he can take you to a level that it's supernatural. It's just no way to explain it. I was the best I ever was on that movie, because I was unafraid. And it loved his the greatest,

and his form, highest form, is the best you'll ever be if you get to that place that you give your life. And I give my life for these kids, that's what it did. We're not chasing anybody away with this audience. We'd spoke about, I just did an episode with this guy, Ryan Montgomery, who's an ethical hacker,

and he's unveiling... He weighs about 85 pounds and he's going after these guys by himself. Now he's moving into other organizations and it was the fastest growing episode that I've ever had. And that's saying a lot because we've had some really big ones and this kid came out of nowhere. He's got, how do I say this? He doesn't have a lot of

clout around him. Nobody's ever heard of him and it's just one spark the interest to everybody. And with this film, do you think this film is going to bring truth, but also educate kids, parents, on how this is happening, where it starts and put the fear into people, into pedophiles, and predators that are targeting these children? I don't know, I was reading this thing and I would absolutely say it's the 100% the truth. They will never be able to walk down the street again. That's common without a doubt and it will be a great day.

It needs to be, and it will be a great day. And this needs to be done. This is the worst time in the history of all humanity right now we're living in. You know, when you read Biblical times, we're eight and a half billion people on this earth. Biblical times, not that many people, but when you read Moses, they killed the babies. During the time of Jesus, Herod, they killed the babies. They tried to annihilate them.

It's the same thing, same devil. And this is gonna end. I know it, but whether I live, that I would give my life to make this end. And that's where I'm completely connected to Tim in this role. And King David, or David, is the 16-year-old. And that God could come to us from small towns and just say, all you got to do is cry out to God and ask Him was my purpose in this life. And certainly, it can't be one of being afraid.

And to trust Jesus that He's got you, man. You know, I know that a lot of people out there right now have I had to, my dear friends who committed suicide and a lot of people want to know, you know, with God, loves them or not. I heard this a long time ago and it goes, your name may not appear down here in this world, Tala Fame. In fact, you may be so unknown, that no one knows your name. The Oscars and the praise of men may never come your way,

but don't forget, God has rewards. He'll hand out some day. This crowd on earth, they will soon forget when you're not at the top. They'll cheer like mad until you fall, and their praise will stop, not God, he never does forget. And in his hall of fame,

by just believing on his son, forever there's your name. I tell you, friend, I wouldn't trade my name, however small, that's written there beyond the stars and that celestial hall. For all the famous names on earth or the glory that they share,

I'd rather be an unknown here and have my name up there. Thank you for saying that. When is this coming out? Fourth of July. We'll link everything below. So, heavy topic. You know, the things we talked about can all be verified. So, are you fact checkers out there? You know, you know, these fact checkers. You know, these fact checkers, you go to college for that, get a master's degree in fact checking. You know, don't public stop following

for this fact checking stuff? They need to meet my fact checkers. One of them, you know, we mentioned him earlier. They have verified all the stuff that I've told you. I've been terrified all this stuff that I've told you. So, those guys, they should be terrified of those guys. Fact checking is turned into suppression. Yes, it is. Bingo.

Do you think you'll continue this fight with the children after this film's release. Oh, I'll never stop because my own children, my own adopted children. I was very well of the dangers and the pains I've gone through. I won a global scale just through the adoption agencies and everything. You have to verify people when they come in and you know, this is a, you have to verify people when they come in and, you know, oh, we help save children. A lot of these guys are honey potters.

They come in and they, and they, I'm sorry, they're wolves and sheep clothing. So, they're not there to save the children. They're there to take the children, make money off them. I think we need to get Tim Pallard in there. Yeah. Tim as well. What's next for you, Jim? I know you have...

Resurrection. Resurrection. I would think so, or... Sound of Freedom, too, but as far as the industry, you know, it's a different thing the industry, you know, it's a different thing now because if you want to win Academy Award, you have to have an L, a G, a B, a T, a Q, plus, plus something.

And that's insane. It's the greatest film's full time would never qualify for the Academy anymore. Well, I think the clout of all those awards is diminishing very rapidly amongst the public. And we're seeing that. Oh, it's coming out. People are... I'm going to look at buddy light, man. He used to drink that all the time.

I'll drink regular water on my own piss before I touch that. Good for you. The resurrection. Yeah. When does that start? Is it started? Yeah, oh, the writing, yes.

I know, I asked him, would you be willing to go on January? He said, yeah, maybe. So, about the end of the fall, he goes, yeah, maybe. September. He said, yeah, maybe. September. I said, yeah, maybe.

I was so funny because last time he did that, he, I said, okay, well, won't be till January and then I'll send him to get the call. Hey, you ready? And we went, we went in September, October. So who knows? I know he's working on that. Right now he's doing a movie with Walberg. In September, October, so who knows? I know he's working on that. Right now he's doing a movie with Walberg. So he's finishing that, but he's been on this for a long, long time. And then it will be the biggest film in history. It might be two films.

It could be three, but I think it's two. I can't wait. I cannot wait for that. And then you have another project coming out as well. Sounds like it's going to be a four-part docky series, if I'm correct. That stems. They haven't come to me for that yet. Okay.

Yeah. But they'll be, they wrote this second sound of freedom, and that's even better script than this, the first, the first pretty darn good. So there's that. Can I ask what that's about? The second one? Yes.

Haiti. It's about Haiti. Yeah. Was that, why? It's just Haiti. It's about Haiti. Yeah. Was that... Why... It's Haiti specifically. Because he went down there and did that operation down there. So it's just like...

It's not so much sound of freedom too. Okay, it's just... This is the next mission that he did. Okay. Okay, so this is gonna so this is gonna keep going. If based on the success of this film, the people loving enough that demands there, that screenplay is there. I mean, it always is the screenplay, everything, at the level of it, and then at that point, a lot of prayer and these aren't easy. I don't get the easy ones. Learning, Aramaic was crazy art.

How do you manage all this? Personally, I mean, you're taking on a lot of weight, covering this type of, or being a part of this type of a topic with sex trafficking. I have nowhere else to go. This where I was, I go back to the movie theater. It was like, this is, take the ones I give you, okay? You know, by and no. movie theater was like this is take the ones I give you okay you know by you know I didn't know I could do this I just believe in him before I even believe in myself I believe in him and if he says I can do it I know I can't because he says it. It's a difference between actors I work with

and are phenomenal. They think the talent came from them. Mine came from God. Now, I'll boast in my talent from God any day. I'm not afraid of any actor in the world. But again, it's, it keeps me simple. And it just, you know, it keeps me simple. It just keeps me away from getting too hearty, tidy, and just being ready to...

Humility is a great... Mother Teresa said, humility comes from humiliation. So when I get humiliated in the last two years on the Drina Crom was quite humiliating, but I knew one day the truth is coming and it's coming. So, you know, and, as I said, I'm not the easiest guy to love. My wife will tell you that, but, you know, I am loved. And I got my children that I love and they love me, you know? So I've got a good thing there.

Got a good thing there. There are rumors out that you and Mel Gibson are going to come together to expose some of the stuff that's going on in Hollywood. Is there a truth to that? Not really. Okay. I think what you're seeing right now is, um, you know, he did his part I'm doing my... I'm glad you're doing it.

Nobody else is going to. Thank you. Thank you. Well, Jim, I just want to say it was a real honor to have you and her today and I appreciate the conversation and the time and most of all, thank you for being a good role model and, and,

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