Shawn Ryan Show - #66 DC Long - Army Combat Vet's Mysterious UFO Encounter in Underground Military Base | Part 2

Episode Date: July 19, 2023

The Whistleblower Marathon continues with former Army Combat Veteran DC Long. DC and his Father, then government contractors, were tasked with standing up a shoot house at Range 19. Before they knew i...t, they were ushered underground at gunpoint only to encounter a "Monolithic Slab." Long shares his story in great detail, recounting the sights and sounds of this UAP / UFO. Long describes a series of events that unfolded post his encounter that would ultimately separate he and his Father for life. This episode is a cold, hard look at how sinister the aftermath of such an encounter can be. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://1stphorm.com/srs https://preparewithshawn.com DC Long Links: Discord - @dclong08 Whistleblowers - please write to: dclongranger@gmail.com Please leave us a review on Apple & Spotify Podcasts. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website | Patreon | TikTok | Instagram | Download Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the show you're in the middle of a three-part UFO whistleblower series. This is part two. Today we have DC Long in Army Combat Veteran who witnessed a hovering monolithic structure in an underground facility on an army base. Ladies and gentlemen, if you like what you see, please like, comment, subscribe to the channel. Go to Spotify and Apple Podcasts, leave us a review, and for those of you that are content creators, we've seen you guys pulling our content off of our episodes, and we really appreciate it.
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Starting point is 00:01:05 DC Long. John. Welcome to the show, brother. Pleasure to meet you. So we met also at Dr. Recrears Conference in DC with the whistleblower conference. And I just want to say it's an honor to have you here. I know it takes a lot of courage to come out and talk about what you're talking about after so long. And we're here to get your testimony of what you saw out
Starting point is 00:01:32 to the public. What are your goals? It's an honor to be here. First of all, I have Weasepoek earlier downstairs. You know, I can't be pushed further. I mean, you have to give yourself more credit because I won't be alive. I won't be sitting in this chair if it wasn't for you. If it wasn't for the people that you've had on before, you know, when I had no strength left, I'd just tap into come across it. And, you know, I'm here just as much. So my glad you are here. Flex your goals. I'm glad you are here. And I'm glad the show helped you.
Starting point is 00:02:12 It's helped a lot of people. And I said it before, I'll say it again. You know, one of the main things we do here is we want to bring hope, especially to vets, you know, overcome another trauma that has gone on for the past 20 years, and it will come again, you know, in document history, tell truth, expose corruption, and again, bring hope, and you're a perfect example of that hope. So thank you for saying that.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I appreciate it. But now, before we get to sentimental here, I want to give you an introduction. So DC Long Year in the New York, excuse me, DC Long Year in the US Army Fort Bragg, North Carolina. 1997 to 2013 was your service medically retired from interjuries received from a combat jump. Your father was a government contractor also at Fort Bragg and you had a encounter with a what we call monolithic slab hovering off the ground at range 19 at a secret underground bunker and so we're
Starting point is 00:03:20 here to document that testimony. Before we get started, everybody gets a gift. Even you. And here you go. Thank you. The only thing I brought you was me. That's all right, that's more than enough. You're what it's all about. Thank you so much, man, that means a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:44 You're welcome, you're welcome. So those are vigilance league gummy bears. Is it legal? They are legal in all 50 states. We actually got an email once and somebody sent me a, somebody sent us an email and they said, man, I'm on my third bag and I still don't feel anything. I was like, I was like, dude, you're not supposed to feel anything, they just taste good. But, uh, that's awesome. Yeah, but so, we're here to get your eyewitness account
Starting point is 00:04:16 on what happened on that day. When was that? When did this happen? That happened in 2011. At the end of 2010, beginning of 2011, when I was still in Fort Ben and Georgia. Were you still active? Yes, I was.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And incidentally, it had nothing to do with my military career. Anything that I did in service, had absolutely nothing to do with it in the sense that, as you said, my father was a government contractor. And on occasion, I had a 30% stake in the business. So he would ask me to help him out whenever I could. So I took leave. I came back down to Carolina to help him out.
Starting point is 00:05:01 That day, the day in question, he was in the 18th airborne headquarters, G5 War Room, what he was doing there. I didn't ask. He didn't tell me. But that's where I met him. He told me that we were going to get an S-Corp from JFK warfare to take us over to a place called range 19. Is it don't earn outside? It is. Okay. Yes. Enough. You'd send me up. Well, where was I apologize? You got selected to go to range 19? Yes, sir. Yes, they called us, he called me up, said that we had an escort coming from JFK Warfare to meet us and take us to a place called Range 19.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Just real quick, what was your dad's business as a contractor? It was turnkey. Originally it started out doing residential and commercial construction from the monolithic slab to turnkey. Everything was subcontracted in a house. So whatever you needed, as long as you had plans. It was construction. Right. That was the main part of you. Just to keep you guys got selected to do this. Well, as long as my dad was there,
Starting point is 00:06:22 he's always had a hunting land in North Carolina. And a lot of the guys from group that he met there would come down to his land, go hunt with him. A couple of the Delta cats that he knew, take us on their planes, we go down to Arkansas and do some duck hunting. It's all over the US. Montana, Colorado, Mesa, Elkonts, Bear Hunt, and it's just the guys who were into it, that's how they got tied in.
Starting point is 00:06:51 And he did submit everything that he did through the Army Corps of Engineers. That's where he would submit all of his bid submittals for the contracts, you know, like the Force Com building that they built on Fort Bragg. He was responsible for the top three levels of it. But as far as how he got tied in to do the work around the Keller's Lodge, during the SF compounds, I have no idea. We didn't talk about that in that sense. So, yeah, I just assumed it was the guys that he had met. And I needed the well enough,
Starting point is 00:07:32 just not the best way we needed to go. So again, they got the beds in the word needed to go. Right, okay. And it's not like it was a public bed. You know, not everyone could. Because I imagine there were things that they weren't supposed to see and we just weren't naturally curious people.
Starting point is 00:07:49 So it's not like they had to worry about us saying anything. Yeah. Um, the day that I made him up there, like I said, the escort comes to me. It's, um, it's one of the guys that he knew that he had honoured with. I didn't know this gentleman. With everything you guys are saying that's going on in the world right now, does anybody get the feeling that something bad might be coming down the pipe here?
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Starting point is 00:10:20 I don't know if you're familiar with Fort Bragg. I'm not. Okay, there's only one direction you can go to get to I don't know if you're familiar with Fort Bragg. I'm not. Oh, okay. There's only one direction you can go to get to the live fire range just to get to the drop zones and things like that. So I assume we were headed towards Cislear Normandy Drop Zone because that was the direction we were going. The van that they had us in, it didn't have any windows.
Starting point is 00:10:42 You couldn't see to the front. It was just just cattle car. And we were joking, they were gonna take us away, asking what he did and been ahead to live and worth for a little while. But we get there. And as soon as the door opened, it looked like a literal dump.
Starting point is 00:10:59 It was just trash everywhere. Not like people just leaving stuff out. It was an actual dump. There was a 45-degree concrete door setting out of one of these hills of Strelin, in front of us, no further than you and I already each other now. And so we go inside, meet another escort in there. Take us to this freight elevator. We get in there. Two series of buttons didn't have any writing on it. One of the guys looks at my dad as saying to both of us, keep your head down. The eyes on the hills and
Starting point is 00:11:39 man in front of you or you'll be shot and we kind of started giggling because you know, at least one of the guys was one of his buddies. Yeah, people that he used to hang out with and the other guy, I recognized him as the guy who we'd went on with before. I knew later on that they were both double operators. If they were still active, I have no clue. Do you know their names? I do. Do you want to names? How do you want to? No, say they're not.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Absolutely not. Okay. And I'll tell you later why. But yeah, hell no. So you're seeing familiar faces, which makes you comfortable. Right. And you don't realize how the shit storm I just stepped into.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Yeah. Yeah, absolutely not. Well, what exactly were you guys there to do? What he told me was that we were going down below ground to set up a shoot house. Okay. And indoor life fire range that was going to be underground. Nothing new.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Again, I didn't think anything of it. We had done other shoot houses before with the open tops that can be viewed from above. With a catwalk. Yeah. So it just didn't, didn't aim patient. It was just another day of work. Okay. Now it's just there to help him out. But we get down the doors open and the first thing I see of these personal connoisseurs off to my right, the smaller ones, not the the larger ones that you see scattered around are like the ones you'd see on a big rig carrying around. These were the small ones. You would throw your personal gear in to go before you get shipped overseas. And as soon as I look past them, I could see this giant monolithic slab just sitting there. At first, it didn't, yeah, once again, it
Starting point is 00:13:38 didn't set off any alarms. I didn't think much of it, but the closer we got to it, I could feel this intense vibration. But you couldn't hear anything. It was dead silent in there. The loudest thing was the footsteps that I could hear. And what did the vibration feel like? It felt like being at a concert, standing next to one of the speakers without the noise.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Permitting through your body without the noise. There was zero noise. Zero. Absolute zero. I could still hear myself breathing over this, but inside I have such a strange feeling to have. So the closer I got, I was like, I got to check this out. So I go down to one knee, have the fake and I got to tie my boots. And then I glanced up underneath it. And there's absolutely nothing underneath this damn thing. Nothing holding it up whatsoever. What did this lab look like? It just looked like a granite slab, but the sheen on it is what caught my attention the most. It was kind of in between being polished or just completely translucent. There was something behind it, but you could tell it had a smooth
Starting point is 00:14:53 surface to us. And the only lights that were on in that hanger that we were in were directly over our head, where we were walking through that walkway. And how big was the slab? Oh, God. It was about 20 foot long, about seven foot tall, and I couldn't tell how wide it was by that point. I was already directly in front of it. So there's like, absolutely, it will be impossible for a human to even think about picking something
Starting point is 00:15:22 like this up. Oh, there's no way. Even with the construction that we've done, if you had to pick up something like that to move it anywhere, you would need at least three, four cranes. Oh wow. Herrera could tell you better. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah, the scope of equipment that it would take just to get it off the ground, not even to transport it to another location. But at this point, I'm still down on my knee and I'm looking and behind it, I can see two people standing. All I think I can see is the feet, but there's this boulder,
Starting point is 00:15:58 the right in the behind it and it's on the ground. And I glance over my shoulder and there's a guy with his back turned to me standing in front of another boulder identical with the other one that I could see up underneath the monolithic slab and he's just pushing it with one hand and then I assume he's pushing it in the other direction because it's just freely spinning no wobble. It's like it was attached to the top and the bottom and it was paper mache. That's how easily this guy was just spinning it around. Now at this point, the escort behind me kicks me in the back. So let's go. So we get up,
Starting point is 00:16:32 keep going, go down, fly the stairs. That's when we get to what we call the shoot house. You could see old lanes where they had actually used it before as a live fire engine underground. could see old lanes where they had actually used it before as a live fire range underground. And we'd probably only been down there 15 minutes, 15, 20 minutes maybe. Father's taking notes on the dimensions, what we needed, what I guess he understood what they wanted. And I know that we had to replace the walls in consequential to the story, but we had to replace the rubber on the walls for the shoehouse. And in that amount of time, we go back upstairs, exact same route that we took on the way down and everything's empty when we get to the hangar again, everything. The two
Starting point is 00:17:20 boulders in the back, the monolithic slab, all of it is absolutely gone. And it was, we weren't, you know, 100 yards below these guys, we were just one flight below them. So whatever it was that they were taking out, we would have heard it. Even the people making noise around it, you would have still been able to hear, but it was dead silent.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Like I said, before there was nothing in there, just our feet, but coming back through, it was absolutely gone. Everything in there just vacated. And at that point, it's too much time had passed. Less than 30 minutes. Less than 30 minutes because it didn't take us long to do what we had to do downstairs. And this was just an assessment. You guys weren't actually, you weren't doing any construction or repairing the ones we were seeing. It was just a hey, it was what we need to do. So there was no
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Starting point is 00:22:22 I mean, it was no farther than, from here to the camera pod, and it's six, seven feet away from me, whenever we were walking in. But what made me stop. It was that close. Right. What made me stop was as close as we got.
Starting point is 00:22:37 I noticed, in front of me, with my dad and the other escort in front of him, it was almost like hopping a trip wire. You know, when you're on the trail, you just get it and go. And that was the first thing I noticed. And then the closer I got to it, that intense vibration. And I was just too curious.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah. I couldn't stand it. I had to figure out what it was. And I really shouldn't have. When did the vibration stop? It didn't stop until I walked away. Okay. In the center, looking at the top of it,
Starting point is 00:23:10 you could see this black box. I've tried to describe it before and it was extremely difficult. It just looked like a small black GMTK toolbox that a military mechanic would have a carry around. It wasn't very big and it just had two leads that came off of it and it looked like it was rab in a casing that you could almost see something inside of it but it wasn't mechanical, it wasn't moving, it didn't have lights, it was just
Starting point is 00:23:39 opaque but it didn't really seem to serve any purpose, but that the other boulder had the same thing on top of it. But so are you I'm sorry, are you saying you saw two boulders in a slab? Yeah, and they were all three of them at the same time. The the slab itself, the monolithic slab, it was about 12 to 15 inches off the ground. Okay, and whenever I knelt down to time I, time I shoes, I could look through it and I saw the first boulder that I noticed and it was just sitting on the ground. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:14 And then I'll glance back and that's when I saw the other boulder that had the same black box on top that was being moved around. And that was, that was levitating. Yes. That was levitating. Yes. That was one. That was levitating. One slab levitating, one boulder on the ground. Correct.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Okay. Did the slab have a black box anywhere near it? The monolithic slab. Yeah. It did. It did. Where was that located? It was on the top of the center where I was feeling most
Starting point is 00:24:44 of the vibration. It was like the closer I got to it, that's where it was the most intense at the at the center of the slab where that box was on top of it. Okay. Keep going. And after that, we go back upstairs the way we came like I said. We get out of the door to leave. Fans still in the same place. We hop back in. We take that same 15-minute drive back to 18th Airborne Headquarters. They gave us our phone back. I got my ID. And then my dad said something to one of the other guys that I'd recognized that he knew that I didn't know his name.
Starting point is 00:25:34 But... That guy took everything that my dad had. You know, minus his phones. He took the notes, he took the tapes, everything from him there. And I didn't think much of it at that point. I didn't know if that was something he was going to submit to the Army Corps of Engineers rep that he had, whoever was going to coordinate, you know, or give him the go ahead to submit a bid to do this project. Yeah, so to me, again, that didn't set off any bells.
Starting point is 00:26:12 We're getting ready to leave. As I said, let me back that up. Before we go and get our phones and our identifications, the second guy that I recognized, the one that I do know, he was upstairs in the G5 War Room in the 18th HHC. And it's just him sitting on the desk as soon as you go into the vault and he's got two pieces of paper and he's like, I need you to sign this and it was a non-india.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And I was like, fuck that, I'm not gonna sign that. Come on, man. Really? You know me, I don't give a shit. And my dad just kind of played it off the same thing. He's like, man, I'm not signing that shit. So that's whenever we leave. At that point, I'm getting ready to go back to Georgia. This is roughly 24 hours later. I get a phone call. It was one of my dad's employees. He's like, Hey, man, what's going on? I was not much. I said, back to work. He said, Well, we can't get to work. So what do you mean? He's like, well, everything they call it the barn where we had all of our equipment station where they would meet before they would go to Fort Bragg. He said, the barn's locked
Starting point is 00:27:25 up and everything's gone. This is the same day. No, this is 24 hours later. Okay. Whenever I'm getting ready to go back home. And I said, well, what do you mean? He's like, everything's gone. So I try to call my dad. I can't get up with him. I was like, just stand fast. I'm coming down there. So I get down there and like you said, Barnes locked up, everything down there that I could see, I mean, you could still go there to this day, you could see our staging area and how big it was and all the equipment that we had there,
Starting point is 00:27:56 it's absolutely barren, there's nothing there, it's all gone. And my dad at the time lived just around the corner from there. I go up there to his house and the doors kicked in. And like the video I showed you earlier downstairs, I did that illustrate how close me and my father were. Because just telling the story from this point on, it sounds inconsequential.
Starting point is 00:28:22 But like, oh, well, sons and fathers have problems all the time. It's no big deal for bad blood to take over and just people can be too much like each other bullheaded and not be able to communicate That's why I showed you that. See you could see what kind of I mean, I've called the damn guy my hero because he was but I get in there and my hero because he was but I get in there and my dad's sitting at his couch and his office is just to the left of his living room and everything is torn out everything is gone and I was like, what's going on man? He's like it's all gone. I was like, do you think this has something to do with range 19 and he stood up
Starting point is 00:29:06 That man you saw and he said don't you ever fucking mention that name to me again And that was the last time that I got to spend any time face-to-face with my daddy Yeah face to face with my daddy. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's, um, my life, a business, everything that we built together, and I got no answers. I had no excuses, no reasons, no answers whatsoever. Just unreturn phone calls.
Starting point is 00:29:57 The few times I ever did get a chance to speak to him, it was only my voice being heard. He just hang up on me. He'd hang up on you. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't. My God, it wasn't until 2021 that I got to see him again. I didn't get to, he would just refuse to see you. Yeah, absolutely. And it made me wonder, what could somebody threaten you with
Starting point is 00:30:41 to make you turn your back on your own child? I don't know how many children you have, but I killed from my country. What in the hell do you think I would do for my babies? And I'm his only son. I'm his legacy. Every long from the beginning of the time to me is if it stops with me, then that's where it stops. But he gave me that. To us, that was important. And, you know, I cut my ties. I just, I let it go where it is so hard to talk about, man.
Starting point is 00:31:24 But in, let's get back to my part of the, that affects my career and why I was retired. It was, is your dad still alive? No. He's not. When did he pass? November 10th, 2021. How? Well, that's...
Starting point is 00:31:57 They said that he had aggressive cancer, that they found late, that he was just ravaged. It was all over. And I know shit happens as I'm no stranger to that with our careers and all the guys in this room, none of us were strangers to things happening. We have a better way of accepting that the most people do, I think. Not him, not like that. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I don't get into that part of life. It's just even some of it to me that I'm aware of.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Irrefuutably makes me feel like it's just absolutely insane. But I will never believe that my father died of cancer or natural causes A man is as big and as powerful in him not because he couldn't have been taken. We're all measured It was just he was healthy and then in two months He went from being 240 pounds to 105. Wow, just I mean, when I they called me and told me that he was in the hospital and I went to go see him. I walked by his room twice. I just honestly, the first off that crossed my mind is, man, I feel bad for that guy. That sucks.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And then when they told me that, so it was, you know, I went in and he still couldn't even look at me. And I don't know why. And I just, now I took his hand and said, look, man, I don't even know if you can't talk. He had the chemo scores or some look like I assume were chemo burns on his mouth. It was just these gnarly burns on his face. And his eyes were just fracked with jundas. And I was like, man, we're square. I don't care what
Starting point is 00:34:06 happened. I love you. And tear went out of his cheek. And I was asked to leave. He started to code. And that was the last time I saw him. Shortly after the incident, it was in late 2011 or early 2012. I'm already been JMPI, I kidded out for a combat jump. Got the full pack. Got the 1950s weapons case, dangling, and I was the first man in the stick. They gave us, you know, told us the 30-second sign, we're all hooked up, ready to go. John Masters got his arm up, getting ready to hit me
Starting point is 00:35:02 in the back, and then we see Shuffland, and I'm only one of 12 guys that I jump with every time. Never deviated, no change. That was my team. It didn't matter if it was Kona, so Kona's those were my guys only 12. And a guy from the back shuffles his way to the front and it's one of the escorts. He is unmistakable.
Starting point is 00:35:25 You can't really, you know. Yeah. And at first, it didn't, it just didn't connect with me. It just, you know, I just gave him a hey, how you doing? And he just winked at me. As soon as that, that John Messer's arm came up, the green light's getting ready to go off. No sooner than it hit, and I felt his arm coming down,
Starting point is 00:35:47 I feel something slapped me on the side of the face and it was a static line. And that man took off out of the aircraft. And when he did, it snapped my net. And it pulled me out upside down, deployed my combat gear, long story short at a complete oscillation. And I just smacked the ground and I woke up a month later
Starting point is 00:36:06 careers over And I'll tell you something else. It's you mean you burned in yeah, your shoot didn't oh my shoot happened my shoot deployed But whenever I fell out of the aircraft and I think maybe we were jumping from 800 feet if I had to guess That's what it looked like from the the Ryzen But whenever he hit me going out of the aircraft and the static line went tall and it snapped my neck and I fell out of the craft I'm not even sure how I fell out, but it deployed my lower in line on the way out So whenever my canopy did open it just started a complete oscillation.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I remember looking down and seeing daylight and just smack. And it was over. You think that was an assassination attempt? I know we'll be on the set of a doubt that it was. And the only reason I tell you that is because when my father died, not even a week after I buried that man, I met at my new house at the beach. Nobody knew I'd been there. I hadn't even changed my driver's license over. I hadn't even told the VA that's where I'm living. Not even a week after that man was buried. I get a knock at the door. It's that same guy who cut me out of the door.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Hands me a note, it said thinking of you, he's like, hey, sorry about your lost buddy. What would you do? And Dr. Grier asked me, he said, did you feel like they were trying to intimidate you or they're trying to hurt you? Absolutely not. If that was the case, I would have never seen it coming.
Starting point is 00:37:48 To me, it just felt like somebody looking you dead in the eye and said, I can touch you anytime I want. And then everything started flooding back. And that's what led us to here. I wrote out that entire story to Dr. Greer. You fell out and it was a week after you buried your old man, you said, or the day after? I'm sorry. Whenever he showed up.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yes, that was a week after I buried my father. The Redeemeris cemetery and Dublin, North Carolina. Nobody knew I was there. Nobody. So this is 2021. Yes, it's a couple of years ago. Yes. And you still, and this happened,
Starting point is 00:38:32 when was the accident? When was, well, when was the assassination attempt? 2011, 2012. Did you recognize him? I've got it right now. Anyway, it's so hard to remember. That's when I got this. Yeah. And ever since then it's just been
Starting point is 00:38:49 fuzzy. And that's what led us to this. That scared me so damn bad that I had decided I wasn't suicidal. That please don't give me wrong. I was not depressed. I wasn't. that please don't get me wrong. I was not depressed. I wasn't. I just felt like at that point that it's not about me. I've got my children. If something happens to them, it's my fault. So I figured if I quietly recuse myself, who's going to know better? What's the gunna matter?
Starting point is 00:39:25 My story's over. Get to see my dad again. And hopefully save my kids from this bullshit. Because everything changes. It's one thing when you lose your brothers. It's one thing when you lose your family. But if you, worried about losing your children, that's taking it to a whole other level.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah. Yeah, just because we choose to be peaceful at this point in our lives, does not mean that we forgot how to be violent. I'll take the whole damn world down to protect those kids. And I know you would do the same for yours. Yeah. But what stopped me was you.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Are you in contact with your mom? Is she alive? She's alive. Was she still married to your dad when he passed? No. Was she still married to your dad in 2011 when this happened when the when you witnessed the monolithic slab. No, no, no contact.
Starting point is 00:40:32 No. And unfortunately, I, I remind her a lot of my father and it's nothing against her. We still have a great rapport. I mean, I'm 43 years old with everything I've been through. I still blow my mom, I kiss whenever I leave her. It's not like, you know, we did the same thing my dad did. It's just, I know how painful it was for her to lose him and hearing me speak, you know, we have the same eyes. Do you guys ever talk about this? No, no.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Was there any communication from your dad to your mother that you're aware of? The only way she's gonna know about any of this is by watching the podcast. Okay. All right. But you know what, and that's, I'm ashamed, absolutely ashamed from,
Starting point is 00:41:30 I'm ashamed, absolutely ashamed from being too afraid to keep going. You know, I didn't even bring up the homeless bit because I did it to myself. It wasn't something crazy circumstance that I could blend on anybody else. It was my fault because I was afraid. So this destroyed your life. You damn right it did. I'm still trying to rebuild them. But I don't ask anybody for anything. I don't, it's not about that to me.
Starting point is 00:42:01 I lost all familial contact whenever I lost him in that sense. I mean, the war is bad enough watching your brothers go through what you feel like you should have went through. You know, I can't speak for everybody, but Survivor's Guild tears me up every day. Now, if there's one thing I hate myself for, isn't not trying. It's just not given enough. Now, if there's one thing I hate myself for, isn't not trying. It's just not giving enough. I can't. The names I say at night when I go to sleep, the man that I think about, I just, I
Starting point is 00:42:34 miss him so damn bad because those guys I knew that they would die for me. Some of them did. And the one safety net that I had here was him. When you went to, it was just you and your old man that went to range 19 that day, or were there any other, did you guys have any workers with you? No. Just you and your dad. Just seeing that.
Starting point is 00:43:03 What do you, why are you coming forward? Why are you coming forward to educate the public about what you saw that day? Same thing I said at the press conference, I'm damn tired of doing nothing. You know, I couldn't take, losing my career, I'm finding that. I didn't think I was gonna do it forever.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I'm fine with losing material possessions, but one thing I will not stand for to watch people in this country just hand their freedoms over and think that the government's doing them a favor. Watching my brothers who would rather be homeless than have to deal with the bullshit that got us there in the first place. And it's not because we're afraid. It's because we don't feel like we did enough.
Starting point is 00:43:52 We feel like we're just putting our burden on other people. And that's something that they don't deserve. You're willing to die for people who don't even damn like you. To me, that's absolutely fucking insane. But that's just the kind of people that we are. And it wasn't until I heard something that Herrera said, our oath didn't expire. Good damn look, taking this shit off my neck. Right now somewhere, there's a little kid sitting somewhere across this world and he's got his grandpa's combat boots and one day he's going to be able to enough to fit in
Starting point is 00:44:29 him. And if we sit back and do nothing, if we do not lead by example, they're going to think that it's okay just to be quiet. I think for two damn long good Americans, it doesn't matter if you're a combat vet to me. it doesn't matter if you're a combat vet to me. It doesn't matter if you didn't shed the same blood that I did. What matters the most to me is good people who believe in the flag. That was setting over there that so many people died for. The one that was flying over ground zero, the sacrifice, whether it was the false flag or not, that flag is important to me. And I'll be damned if whatever life I've got left, I'm going to sit there and be quiet about it
Starting point is 00:45:13 because there's a big fight. And if we do nothing, the bad boys are going to prevail. They're going to take over. And I don't think we want that. This world could be so much easier if they would just let it out, but somebody wants to make money out of it. What commend you for your courage, man? That means a ton to everybody that's listening and I know what that takes and I just, I wanna say, man, I'm sorry about your old man. I'm really sorry
Starting point is 00:45:49 to hear about that and, and um, yeah, but he'd be damn glad that you wouldn't let me go all the way. I appreciate that. That means a lot to me. Well, glad you didn't. Well, glad you didn't. Glad you're here, buddy. But do you have anything you want to say before we end it? Appreciate you. Appreciate you. Thank you. Make a little sports analysis, pop culture, and great interviews, and you've got the Rich Eyes and Show Podcasts.
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