Shawn Ryan Show - #66 Michael Herrera - US Marine Encounters UFO Black Ops Human Trafficking Operation | Part 1

Episode Date: July 17, 2023

We're giving whistleblowers a platform and a voice this week on SRS. Former Marine Michael Herrera tells all in part one of this three part series. Herrera and his team were tasked with responding to a major earthquake and tsunami in Indonesia providing overwatch and logistical support. Little did they know–they would come face to face with a UAP / UFO and be ambushed by an unmarked shadow unit of operators. Tune in this week to hear Herrera's story and how he is testifying to Congress to illuminate the hidden truth. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://moinkbox.com/srs https://bubsnaturals.com - USE CODE "SHAWN" Please leave us a review on Apple & Spotify Podcasts. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website | Patreon | TikTok | Instagram | Download Content Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Michael Herrera. Sean. Welcome to the show, man. Thank you for having me, your brother. It's an honor. No, no, the honor is mine, dude. Like, seriously, there's so many people, they're pivotal in this environment, I should say, that you've placed in this chair that have made other people uncomfortable with what they've talked about.

A lot of people who understand not all is what it appears. So hopefully I get to add to that and share with the rest of the world at least in the sense of what you're doing because like I told you I'm not talking to media about this. Why appreciate it brother. Well you're all about the truth these days just as much as I am and it's ridiculous how much is being concealed for a narrative and frankly I'm disgusted with it. I am too. You know, we try to do a number of things here and the things that I really, I try to do is document history from our military heroes because nobody else is doing it.

Bring truth, uncover corruption and bring hope. We bring a lot of hope. You know, a lot of guys that are struggling and women You know what I mean that are struggling and Overcoming all that trauma. That's that's what we try to do here But and with you or bringing truth. Yes, we are so and out of that I want to bring hope to you know It's not just with what I'm dealing with amongst the other people here that, you know, have amazing stories too. As much as it sounds outlandish and don't get me wrong, I think, you know, I can agree

to that, at least with the outside perspective. Because before my event, I was actually very skeptical on it. I'm like, oh, that doesn't exist. ETs don't exist. Aliens don't exist. It's only out of movies and stuff. And it scared the shit out of me when I was a kid, some of those movies. But then this event changed my life in that degree because it confirmed a lot that day.

It confirmed a multiple facets, not just with the technology aspect of it, but just the level corruption of how deep this thing goes. And, Nielis to say, it's something that was a catalyst for other things to at least kind of change my life to start not looking into it directly, but just try to go deeper. What actually makes things happen.

Yeah. You know, so. Let me give you a quick introduction here, Ro. Yeah, go for it. So, Michael, where you were in Indonesia in 2009. You had a UAP slash UFO encounter your your US Marine second Italian three fifth Marines. Yes, and you were at Operation Kitsana, correct? Yes, and Kitsana was in the Philippines and that's we didn't participate anything that we actually got routed to go to Indonesia and that take. We're the only ship.

So a lot of people are going to confuse with that. The rest of the seven fleets stayed there, and we were the only element to actually go to Indonesia, far west from Silasimatra. We'll get into all that. Before we do, everybody that comes on the show gets a gift. Uh-oh. Yeah. Yup.

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Appreciate it. But so we connected through Dr. Greer. Correct. It is conference in DC. He brought in a handful of whistleblowers. You were one of them. Yes. Greer came on the show. He wanted a military audience. And I believe to get whistleblowers after the new law got passed with the protection for people to come out. And it's funny. You say that because 2017, Dr. Greer actually came to Colorado. He was hosting an event in Boulder, kind of doing some disclosure, kind of talking about something that technology with the ATs, you know, UAPs and just reversions and stuff,

just kind of go like the whole grand scheme of things. It was like a several presentation. And I had my ex there at the time and And I kind of hinted her that I needed to talk about some things with him. So he was doing a book signing. So I go over to his table, I snag a book, and I'm like, hey, can you sign this? And I was, by the way, there's some things I need to talk to you about. And he kind of looked at me weird. And I said, it's very serious. So he had me as Cardin, he says, don't ever relay this information out to anybody. And me knowing with what I knew at the time, you know, which obviously there was some stuff

that wasn't works until they recently passed here last year, two days either before after Christmas when they put this law, which I think it's only good thing the administration has done so far to be realistically speaking. I don't care if that makes people uncomfortable to know, but it's helped me out among other people. It might be the only good thing he's ever done. Fast forward to your show. You had him on the first time. And my fiance and me were watching it,

and that's when he started relaying the information and started talking about the law that was being passed. And that's when I decided to reach out to him. And he knew exactly who I was, which was great. It was like, having talked into a friend for a while, now I was sitting at CalMod of the blue and it's just like, everything just reserms back to normal. So I expressed to him, told him my story,

my encounter with this and what happened. So then we arranged everything to go, at least to go talk with the Senate and tell us just committee congress, Senate Pentagon, all that fun stuff. And it was a journey. It was definitely something that opened my eyes to a lot more because here I'm thinking my event was something

that was more specific. But come to find out, I'm just a cog in the wheel with this whole big thing because there's other facets that I'm also confirming these guys' stories to a degree. The corruption secret organizations that have some pull in this, and obviously some of the nasty stuff that they're doing and There's other people down the road who are gonna corroborate what I'm talking about to I don't know who they are Maybe some of the Marines that I I encountered this with too

So I'm hoping that that's what's at least if the message gets put out there from the show I'm hoping that that's what it does is they can get people to actually do something about it and not be afraid of it like it was. It was 14 years. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of a lot of way to carry, try to sweep it under, but the more you try to do that, whatever you resist, persist. That's always a golden rule. That's a good point. That's a damn good point. So just a quick synopsis here. You responded to a 7.6 magnitude earthquake in a tsunami hit in Western Indonesia. Only your crew was routed to that location and provide support. Indonesia has a large terrorist population. Marine crew was armed and tasked to provide security along with medical equipment and food supplies. But it was just your unit.

Yes. Which there was five of you, correct? Yes, there was. And so they end up choosing the Marines out of my unit, at least in the company to go out. So it's not like every single Marine in the company was able to do this. They just handpicked people to go in these sticks

of six Marines. So originally it was supposed to be more of like a deterrence, but also Overwatch protection. So that way these helos can drop the supplies, the logistics groups that were part of it, can then render eight or whatever it is to the local population there. Was it volunteer, were you hand selected?

Hand selected. Okay. Or a volunteer told I should say. Okay. Voluntealed. Good way to put it. Yep. And I'm just curious, you know, what are you hoping

to accomplish by coming out? I want other people who have witnessed similar things or are part of certain things are very controversial, but they end up being true to come out and understand that what's going on is not acceptable. And this is just a fastive corruption. It may not be a political corruption that's coming out.

Now that people are witnessing with their own eyes. People come conspiracy theories. What I'm hoping to achieve is to get other people on board to understand that the government supports what we're doing because they were in the dark about this too. And now they're coming out and they're actually putting the hammer down.

Recent bills have been passing as far as the legislation through the Senate Intelligence Committee, saying that these corporations have to give the goods here in six months or else there's gonna be some consequences the government. The government is going to do a lot of work to do. The government is going to build up the bills that have been passing as far as legislation through the Senate intelligence committee.

The corporations have to give the goods here in six months or else there's going to be some consequences that are going to face either through the judicial system, which obviously the government has a lot of weight with that.

The other aspect of it too is that they're going to ban these companies from doing contracting work for the government, which means they're going to lose billions of dollars. They're going to go broke. So I'm hoping that they actually comply with this measure because one, this technology is going to help benefit humanity as a whole. Not in a militaristic sense because it's just foolish. It's more to help out humanity because now everybody's going to be on the same level, technology-wise. I think the common ground here, and the narrative with that is you're hearing people come out, at least in the mainstream

media is trying to talk about ET's being able. My event had nothing to do with ET's and there's some misconstrued concepts are going about. The technology may have came from ET's at one point and that's what we witnessed. But we witnessed much more of a sinister plot with this that they're using it. For people who don't know, 2009 during this operation, that's why we're responding. Obviously with the humanitarian nature of this, because 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit,

that's mainly what the expertise is, at least as far as marines go. It's not really combat operations for the most part, even though Indonesia among other parts in that world are large networks for terrorists and surgeons. So having that expertise of going in and trying to help people, I think it's also good to us

because it teaches you the balance of it. Instead of being a war fighter, you actually get to help people. Instead of launching bullets of people, you're still helping people in the different cause. You're still getting to be heroes for people, which is great. So totally incidental as far as our encounter,

when we went on to the sl stub because we had our LZ, it was a HSTLZ and their drop in supplies, they have a bunch of stuff and it's other helos too. There's kind of form and a perimeter around the city of drop in Marines here and you could provide overwatch. Now the only thing that's unsettling with this is the fact that they never gave us any comms.

You know as well as I do how risky that is. You didn't have any comms. We didn't have any comms. So the Marine that was with me, it was a higher rank than me, was very pissed off about it because he was a fluasia marine. So he went through a lot of shit. And one of those things, he always remember him telling me, he's like, if everything ends up going to shit,

and you look at me and if I'm fine, it means that you're gonna be fine. And I remember him telling us all that in the stick, and he's a good marine, he's a very outstanding guy, learned a lot from him during my time in. And I thought about that concept, but then he started picking things apart too. It wasn't very comfortable with that.

But the luckily the thing was that we were still relatively close enough to the LZ, because when the bird was supposed to land because obviously they were coming in dropping the supplies and they'd bank off. The last one that would come down with land, that's when we'd basically run to the helo 300 meters. You're in good shape and you have an average combat load, 120 rounds, so to speak, with the M1684 and a camel back, not really much, so you can make that trek relatively quick. But they also have security on those birds too. With the flight crew, with the gunners on the sides,

they had 50s on them. So if there is some opposition, they're gonna meet what those on top of us engaging them. So we were positioned near the slope. It wasn't like a steep grade or anything, but it was enough to obscure what was going on on the other side that we didn't have no idea what was going on. So we've got, you know, naturally you want to take the high ground, so you have observation

of everything. And this is when we came across this operation. And it was something that stuck out like a sore thumb because here you have terrain that is a jungle terrain, very green vegetation, things like that. And then you have something that's sticking out right in the middle of an opening, and it looks very odd. It's something that's, you know, I'll remember it till the rest of my life,

to the day that I believe this Earth. I'm gonna remember seeing that, and it's just imprisoned up here. I had a camera with me, it was a panasonic, cheap camera, you know, it had kind of like, you know, ancient compared to what you got set up in the studio, you know. But it was enough at least because it was part of stuff that I would, I've never did a humanitarian assistance before. So it's taken videos of them dropping stuff off things like that until we trekked up to this point. It was taken some pictures because it's

a place you would never really ever go to. At least a real part of Indonesia, it's not like Bali or Surabaya where it's like a touristy stuff. You know, this is where it's actual culture people. You're actually seeing reality here. So it's stuff that I kind of wanted to document and just say, you know, I was a part of this. I can look back and say, you know, oh, I remember that. But then turning the look in North past that slope and seeing that down, then I took some video and some pictures of that. slope and seeing that down. Then I took some video and some pictures of that. And I stuck it in my dump pouch. I was a saw gun or naturally.

So I had them 249, that was my favorite weapon. I liked having a belt fed machine gun. As much as a pin in the ass, I liked having that compared to an M16 or M4. So because we were in the humanitarian, all they did was give us M16A4s. They had RCOs at that time. They weren't the ACOGs.

I had the mills on the sides for windage and stuff like that. As well as the PEC-15s. You know, so if we were doing any kind of night range or night operation, we'd have those with our POS-14s. So it's just a very basic loadout that we were doing. You know, nothing really crazy. And when we saw this happen, saw this, and I wanna say unidentified,

because right now it's identified. Everybody knows what they are now. They're either man-made or they're not. And if they're not, the government's coming out and telling people, admitting it, not directly, but they're still admitting it to a degree that it exists. Because why would they spend time with this legislation coming out?

That's a good point. Why would they do that? If it doesn't exist, why would they go in through these measures to basically? That's a good point. Why would they do that? If it doesn't exist, why would they go on through these measures to basically hold a gun up to these guys' heads and say, you better relinquish this technology or else? They're not just doing it and knowing and seeing this unfold, even being in this position of having to brief the Senate intelligence among the Special Intelligence Service too, which oversees the letter agencies, because they have no idea what's going on here.

But the fact that all of us coming together and making this loud amount of noise to get something done about it is just astounding. And now they're finally, for the first time in history, they're going through with this and actually trying to do something about it for their own understanding, but also know the corruption that comes from this.

Yeah, it's multiple different facets. I mean, you guys already, all five of you, are already testified in front of Congress. So we testified to people at the Senate Intelligence Committee, which whether some Congress people there is some senators. So in front of the Intelligence Committee by the Senate. Yeah, and you know, yeah.

And you know as well as I do it, any kind of setting like that, whether you're in a skiff, it's all under oath still, because that's their setting, having you sign NDAs and things like that. So you're expected to be truthful with this. And see in the reaction, it is a very big deal. It was nerve-wracking at first because I'm not used to talking to government officials in that nature. And having a support that they've been giving me as well as a protection is just something

that I'm very thankful for. I'm very thankful that they all have open minds of this subject. Even though there, you know, for years there's been a stigma to it. For years there's been a giggle effect because a little green man and flying saucers and all that. I myself never thought to this day that I've ever seen anything like this. So going back to the event,

we decided to get in a tactical column and approach this, right, and we got down the slope and it's just like a clearing and just has this big opening, it's almost a little bit more than the football field because this craft took up, enjoy of that. So let's just back up for it. Let's describe the setting.

Because at first you said there were helos going doing racetracks around. Is this the same opening that you described earlier that you were watching helos drop some time? No, no, no. Okay. So where this was happening with Southwest, at least where the helo insertion points were with the LZs that they were setting up. And they're flying very low in consideration, in consideration, right? So, and the reason why

I know this is because I asked the pilots after this because I was on the officer's mess. And I knew their call signs and their approach them and then I asked them very respectfully if they know anything strange. None of them said anything. Okay. So I was trying to see if they could get a view of a topside because this is just something that's crazy, right? Yeah. So also their call signs all stuck out too, you know, because pilots like to do crazy stuff with their call signs so it was very easy to track them down.

But having this happen in the north part of the slope and it goes down, and obviously, you know, the way it was transitioning colors, which was kind of the way that it appealed because it was transitioning for a light matte black, or no, sorry, a light matte gray to a dark matte black and just kind of ranging in between, right? Let's rewind a little bit before we get into the description. How far, so what was the activity with all the other helicopters? Were they active at the time that you saw the...

Honestly, I don't know. When we started going down there, no. Okay. And I don't know because obviously we were occupied with this. How far do you think it was? So from the LZ where we were at was 300 meters roughly, okay, plus the slope that was concealing plus vegetation. Down the slope, it was like 300, 400 meters maybe.

So we got close. We trucked down quite a bit, about 150 meters outside, 150, 200, right? Halfway. And the- So it may be about a click away. Possibly, yeah. The craft itself might have been a click out.

Okay. Yeah. And as I can say, the reason why I know how big this thing was because did you see it as you crested the hill? Yes, I did. And that's where I took videos and pictures big this thing was because did you see it as you crested the... Yes, the hill. Yes, I did. And that's where I took videos and pictures of this thing.

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That's how I was able to see it because you know, I'd take pictures of the chaos going behind and everything, you see in the rubble of burning buildings, flooding and all that kind of stuff. And then you turn around and I'm like, so you, you, you cross this hill. Yep. You look down into, into the valley.

Yep. And there's a clearing. There's a clearing. With a UAP. Yes. Just sitting there. Sitting there rotating clockwise. Yep. And that's in transition to this color spectrum I was telling you to.

And that's why it's kind of something to stuck out. It's not a building, you know, it's not something that you're used to seeing. Maybe topside it could have looked like a building or something that, you know, I don't know. I don't have that perspective. I wasn't a pilot or anything. But I can tell you from our point of view, it's something that just looked very unnatural and abnormal. And that's what got our curiosity to go investigate this.

Now, normally because we would have had comms, you'd have done right what we'd have called it in. Report something suspicious. Maybe get some eyes on a hilo, get our whole other call signs, and try to do them, and fly around, and they never did. Obviously, we didn't have comms to do it, but they were more occupied with what was going on behind us. fly around and they never did. Obviously we didn't have time to do it, but they were more occupied with what was going on behind us. So when we tracked down and got it around 150 to 200 meters from it, and this isn't opening, by the way,

there's no tactical advantage being in this situation because you don't have cover. It's jungle. You have concealment, but this kind of concealment with vegetation is not bulletproof. So when we trekked up close and we were attacked, columns, obviously, have points here, right, at each marine.

So you have visuals of the sides. Somebody has point and somebody has a rear. And all of a sudden, we are involved by this military force of, I still to this day, don't know who they are. And that close, did you get to the craft? To the craft. Roughly 200 meters, 150, How close did you get to the craft? To the craft. Roughly 200 meters, 150, 200.

Did you get to the bottom of the hill? Yes. So you could see, so you saw the top of it, and then you could see underneath of it. And underneath of it had this platform that was on the ground that was separate from this craft hovering. And it was, it was very weird to see and I was like, okay, I don't know if that's kind of like a cement pad or something. to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have

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have to have have to have to have have to have to have to have to have have to have to have to have to have have to have to have to have have to have to have to have have to have to have to have to have to have to have have to have to have have to have to have to have have to have to have to have have to have to have to have have to have have to have have to have to have in a clockwise position. So right when we got close to it, at least 150, 200 meters out, the other time we were engaged, at least not in a hostile manner, at least, you know, not gunfire, firefight or anything like that.

But the way that these guys moved was so fluid, so still, is very, very, very smooth. And it kind of, in a kind of me, after thinking about it for several years, is that these guys have done it for a while because of how smooth this operation was. So when we were in a tactical column going towards the center of this thing,

they actually came from the flanks, but it was more of a diagonal, like corner of the room, so to speak, right? For them in a tactical advantage, they have interlocking fields of fire on every single person, and they had a team of eight, right? And the gear that they had was Black OTV vest, they had Black camouflage utilities. So what you're saying is there was there would have been no mechs. They were

professionals. Yes. Yes. Yes. They would have been Mexican standoff or if they fired their shooting into their other squad. They had they had perfect angles. Yes, they did. To where both sides could engage you. Yes. Team before team before. So it was like a fire team element of that. Without worrying about a blue on blue situation. Exactly, okay, so you know what that being said Because as they as they approached us here the Safety slip off now you're attention to detail when you're seeing this kind of stuff Your sensors are very heightened so you can pick up. I know you've been a combat ready

You know all about that your heightened sense of awareness is going through Astronomical changes to hypervigilant. Yes. So you can hear stuff a lot clearer. And that's where you kind of picked up the hum that the subject was doing along with these guys flipping their safeties off, especially in fours. You know, it's very distinct sound.

Anybody in this room who's held in fours and has shot them in 16 things like that, it's very distinct sound to flipping it off. So we kind of knew and they started yelling at us. They were like, you're not supposed to fucking be here. What the fuck are you guys doing here? Who the fuck are you with? So they knew they were using the kind of lingo

that we were using too, especially the military. So it made me think that at some point, these guys actually were uniform military at one point. Any accents? Not accents, it's just like American dialects, how you and I are talking. At one point they said we're going to smoke us, they could throw us out of a helicopter, they could, it's very easy to get lost in a jungle out of here. They kept staying stuff like that.

So after they enveloped us, they all pretty much got online. They told us to put our weapons, so we all got online as well, and we had our hands up, we had our weapons slung. They're having two guys watch, while there's a guy basically taking our magazines out of our vest, and they're throwing them on a deck and they're kicking them away so you don't have time to react. They also, at the same time, the first thing they did was obviously take our weapon and clear it.

But they took the magazine out, and they actually held it in a way to where they can pull a charging handle and collect the round and have it not at the deck. So the way that these guys operate was very smooth. It's very calculated, very precise. You could tell they've done this a lot, or they rehearsed it a lot, especially combat operations. You're doing terrain model rehearsals,

you're doing rehearsals, whether you're clearing rooms, trying to figure all that kind of stuff out. These guys kind of did the same thing. I'm assuming because of how smooth it was. And because you know as well as I do, you have new guys that join a unit and they're not that fresh.

They're very choppy because they have the basic understanding of either how to stack up into a room clearing. And the guys that have done it and been through combat deployments and all that, they're very kind of methodical, very smooth because they know what to expect. These new guys, it's not the same thing. You can tell these guys were seasoned.

So as they did that, they actually, each marine had two guys on them, plus one that was taken the stuff off of them. They actually knew where a military ID is where because in Marine Corps order, you have to have them in your left-press pockets. So there were 15 of these guys, three on each marine. No, no, so they had other guys right here,

and they have three that were just going through each Marine. Oh, okay. Well, other people were holding each Marine at gunpoint. And they're not like super close to us range wise with, you know, because if you get a muzzle close, I mean, it's easy to grab it, you know, kind of fend off, especially with a rifle. But these guys were having to stand off this and said,

even if you try to move, they could, they could, they could smoke you. One search team of three guys. Yes. And then the rest of the squad was aimed in. Yes. Old, okay. Yeah.

So, and again, you know, they're not anywhere where they could actually, there was people behind us because obviously if they had to engage, they're gonna hit one of their own guys probably. So it was more like they were kind of moving the same way through all of us, all six of us, taking our stuff, taking pictures of our military IDs. So they had like these devices that kind of look like a very thin,

it looked like a smartphone modern day right now because in 2009 it wasn't the case. I think the most high tech thing they had at that time were maybe blackberries, but they're bulky at that point with the ball and then they had their flip-foam razors and things like that. But these look like something you'd see today. And they were taking picture of military days and they had some other device that was like a...

My name is a bat system. I don't know if you're familiar with that. Describe it. It's like a biometrics tracking system. So what it does is when you come across with an insurgent, you take pictures of their face, their retinas, fingerprints, something like that, but they were trying to have, they were trying to scan our IDs with this thing. And it wasn't working. So they're kind of getting frustrated with it. So as this is going on, did they collect biometrics from me? No. Okay. No. Which I mean, it took pictures of us,

but that may be enough and then they took our IDs, you know, because some people I talked to that are in the special operations community with that. They said, yeah, we have ability to scan IDs and it tells us everything about you. Military ID is driver license, things like that. So it's very high speed stuff. I mean, in considering this as a 2009 compared to now, I mean, of course, they had this thing that they were using the load up stuff. It's very advanced physics, you know? Something hovering off the ground, not making any sound but an audible hum. Like a guitar amp or something that's like a transformer. So it wasn't like...

It didn't sound like a jet. No. It didn't sound like a helicopter. Hell no. There was no engine noise. Nope. Just a hum. Just an audible hum. Very... It's very creepy to see because it's not normal. Was

like a bassy hum? Yeah, like a guitar. Like if you were to unplug it, I mean it wasn't the same pitch but it was like the same kind of sound. It kind of noise that emitted. And so as their search and us were watching this thing happen, that's when we started seeing trucks come from our left and go on to this platform. And they were up armored 350s. I know exactly what 350s are. They were kind of beefier trucks. They were matte black.

When they were coming at us, they go left. And I was glancing between what was going on in front of us with these guys and then all of a sudden glancing over to what was going on behind them. And that's when I started seeing the key details of this thing, like it had like a scale pattern on it, kind of like an octagonal, because it on it kind of, like an octagonal, because it was crafty,

self-as-like an octagonal shape we could see points, had a pyramid structure on top that was black, and you can see the shadowing of it as a rotated, but it was rotating very slow. And then every, it had like these vents on every single corner on the middle part of these platforms, on this, the panels anyway, there was like a Vanta black, it was like a dark black that would like a absorb light.

Very weird. What do you mean by that? A dark black that would absorb light. So if you ever familiar with the BMW, they painted Vanta Black. It was like a very super dark black. It's not like a reflective material. A matte black.

Yeah, but very, very, very, even darker than matte black. Okay. Like you can shine a light on it and it won't even illuminate. Like the Batmobile. Kind of. Something like that. But even it was like very dark.

So when I'm going to describe it as like the Vanta black. Okay. And so as you, when you mean absorb light, you're saying, if I shine a laser on it, you might not even see the laser. Correct.

Or it would be very dull. Correct. Okay. Something. Okay. Something like that. So we're watching these vehicles, right? These trucks. Now the thing I was saying on the front of them, because you know, Humvees, the military has,

they have the IR lights on the front and they're the headlights that you can drive at nighttime with your knots. So they had the same thing, because they had the same kind of slits that had the IR lights. But they had a weapon cases in the back of each truck bed. And you know, you could store like a couple hundred weapons, maybe a hundred weapons,

maybe a platoon of company size element. And it was the same pelican cases that we would use to store stuff when they were transporting. So very big cases on two of them in each truck bed. And then they had a shipping container thing. I mean, it looked like a shipping container but smaller and half the size. And the thing that was different about this is I had a cylinder on the front of it that was towards the truck. It was like parallel to the ground, just a cylinder right on the top of this thing. And for years, I thought, okay, you know, like,

this got to be oxygen supplier or like a vacuum ceiling thing that you would, you know, because obviously I'm thinking it's drugs. It was like okay so it's a very advanced way to do that just the years of thinking of this. And come to find out when I gave my speech in DC on that Saturday for the disclosure project with Dr. Greer, he's got a lot of people coming out of the work would work by the way. And this gentleman, I'm not going to give any detail. I know a little bit about him, but he works in some of these projects at a very, some very controversial facilities. He's aware of what was going on.

After I gave my presentation of this, he confirmed, he says, no, he's like, I don't want to leave Michael hanging out there, but I was not expecting to come and talk to you about this. And he went explaining what the operations do, why they do it, and what they were using them for. And he says, there's not drugs that they're putting in the shipping containers. He says it's humans.

Human traffic. Yes. His own words. And, you know, of course, and he also wants to come forward, at least with him and 30 other people that are involved with that part of the work. But it was very disheartening to actually get that information relayed to me, because here I'm thinking for years it's drugs and it's a much sinister thing. But it makes sense because they use natural disasters of people going to be missing anyway.

Yeah, that's... Scoop up people. I mean, I just, I've been covering human trafficking this year. Right. And that's, you know, a lot of the human traffic comes from terrible countries in distress. You're in a thoroughbred world area. Yep.

In distress right after an earthquake, I mean, it's prime. Yeah. Prime time to do human trafficking operation. Right. How big were the containers? I would say probably eight feet and 10 feet, eight feet tall, 10 feet with him. So like maybe half a con, Xbox?

Yeah, about that. Okay. And they were kind of like on the trailer that was underneath was kind of like a regular humbry trailer that you would see, kind of pulled stuff, something like that. How were they being lifted into the craft? So they were driving onto this platform

that was angled, so it hit. And it just raised up and they were just driving on this ramp. Oh, the truck was going up. Yeah, but the whole thing was a ramp. Okay. Like a circular ramp. And I mean, I obviously can't see what's on me. Excuse me, the other side of it,

but I'm assuming because it's a circular pattern that is going to be the same on the other side. Because they would drive on this platform. at that point I saw all the doors open four guys would come out and then I'd go back to what we're facing here with these guys searching our stuff asking questions taking our IDs trying to intimidate the crap out of us and So I can see the guys come out of the truck and That was making me think too, like at a tactical advantage, we didn't have that.

There's only six of us, basically trained infantry Marines. And there's these guys here that are, doing this operation and very skilled, very methodical, very calculated, very precise. And if there's eight of them, and now all of a sudden, every single truck has four of these guys,

I know that it's not just these guys that are running a perimeter. They could have been 40 or 30 or 40 people. Yeah. They've been put in size element. And the fact that we have no concealment, we barely have any concealment because if we were to run and bank off the sides here to go to our flanks, they could just engage us. There's nothing to hide behind. Yeah. They could just engage us. There's nothing to hide behind. Vegetation ain't going to stop bullets, you know? So there's a lot of questions I have too, because it's, you know, obviously if we would have engaged them, then the whole rest of the force behind us would know about it, because

they'd heard the commotion. How many containers do you estimate were put into the craft? Four, because it's not four trucks. Four containers. Yeah. And there could have been more, but at that point where we saw, we could have, you know, because we stumbled onto this thing. We were in their operation, so to speak, because we weren't allowed to see that.

Let's talk about the craft. Okay. How big was it? 300 feet is what I'm estimating, about a football field. And the reason why I say this is because we flew on on CH 53 super stallions. I'm sure you're familiar with those. Your time is a seal. They're roughly a hundred feet. All right. So from nose to tail, if you lined up three of them, it fit three of them under this craft because I can see, you know, especially the operation behind us, you kind of see them off in the distance. So you try

to engage, you know, as a marine, you're always trying to judge distance, you know what I mean? Because if you're having to engage, but won't be hold, we end up having the surprise right here, happen with these guys. But that's how I know it was around 300 feet. Okay, that's a, that's a, and it was circular. Circular, it's like an octagon because I had like corners on it.

That was like an octon shape, but still circular. Could you see, was it one smooth piece of metal? No. Was it panels? Panels. Nope. Was it panels? Panels. Yep. How are they? How, just describe more, whether windows,

whether windows. There were not windows, nothing I could see like that. Did you just had that Vanta Black vent looking things on each corner, is all I saw with that. And it had like a octagonal scale pattern that went through it. It honestly reminded me kind of like a design for enough 22. Raptor. You know, I like the top of it kind of looks like that.

That's what it kind of reminded me of because of the transitional colors. So it's suspect, you know, I've had people have talked to you about this to say, well, you know, Lockheed Martin has reverse engine or stuff that's circular. Raytheon, they have triangular craft. And he said it might have been Lockheed because Lockheed also made the F-22. And our similar design concept, now I think about it, right? Because at this time, you not really think about it,

you're like, I got to a more concern with these guys and who the hell they are. So after we witnessed the last truck going on there and we're still dealing with that, I got searched already, of course, and I'm just paying attention what's going on. I'm making sure my guys are good too. And all of a sudden, the trucks we never saw them again,

they were not on that platform. There was like boxes and stuff they were on that platform. And so I'm assuming they drove off on the other side or disappeared, or where they went, I don't know. But all of a sudden, we noticed that this platform raises off the ground by itself. It doesn't make any noise, by the way. It doesn't disturb anything.

So, before it started gaining elevation, how high off the ground was this? The actual craft? Yes. I would say probably 20 feet. Okay. Yeah. Good distance. And the platform rose up, but I would say like the platform was up several feet, right?

Probably maybe five, six feet because it was looking from the distance probably Pavanage. I mean, I'm just envisioning I'm envisioning a the way you're describing this. I'm envisioning in an octagon. Yep rotating clockwise with a drop ramp similar to Maybe something you would see on the back of a C130, C17, but circular. But circular and separate. There's no cables, there's no.

Okay, was the ramp attached to the craft? No. So there was just an opening. There was just an opening. Like the bottom part of the craft, I was when I'm assuming because that's where I saw it left up and go into. It was like the bottom part.

The floor itself was like the platform and they were just rolled up, right? But at the same time, the top part leveled a little bit and went down to meet with this. And as that happened, you start to see it rise up past the tree line. It's not like a super fast and just rapid, it's just like kinda slow.

As that's going on, the rotation has not changed. The audible hum has not changed. But it's not like somebody hit the gas and you hear different. Yeah, it's nothing like that. It's like the lights, it's just constant. Okay. Each point on that octagonal shape

started to illuminate colors. Like it was just one color per point. It was red, it was green, it was yellow, and it was blue. It was only colors I saw, and it was a rotating, right? As soon as it got to the top of the tree line, like clear the trees, this thing shot off to the left. And to the left was the ocean, by the way, this was going west. How far to the left was the ocean? Probably a good mile and a half maybe that's it. Yeah, was you right on the coast? Yeah, okay Probably I would say me

Could be a mile and a half to three miles out estimate cuz I mean that's just estimation I don't really know because it took us a little bit when we landed into the near-pending city Because we landed a airstrip and then we took like a several minute flight going from Southwest to like Northeast part, roughly. So I'd say probably a couple miles to kind of estimate. And like I said, it then changed pitches of noise or anything and it just completely shot off. I mean, it's just like a blur that went left. Didn't make a sonic boom. Like you'd see a fighter jet, and you'd see the pressure,

the way that that happens. It didn't disturb any of the trees. Like what Rotter-Wash would do on a halo or find a map of the earth and leave an exhaust and blow on the, you know, you kind of see top gun movies with a cranks up ocean. Nothing.

There were even coconuts that you could visibly see on these trees. None of them were disturbed. No shit. Yeah. I mean, I like aircraft. You know, that was my thing. You know, I wanted to be a pilot, but that didn't happen. I wanted to fly the area.

And I know about aircraft. I know everything that we've got. I know everything about them. From a little kid, that's all I wanted to do. But obviously, the... being infantry was the next best thing. So it wasn't something I've never seen before, something I know that we didn't have, at least in the conventional wise, on top of the military force that was there. So as that took off, we're also in order to face that slope that we came down.

And like I said, it's not very high up. I mean, it's high enough to obscure everything and to kind of go down in the valley. And so as we turn around, I'm like, fuck, they're going to do it. I think they were just going to fucking rip us right there. Yeah. And they're going to kill you. Yeah. Introducing Rich Valdez, America at Night, the podcast. Welcome to the conversation, Familia. A perfect blend of news and entertainment, interviews and insights. It's really just an expose on how messed up things are.

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It was the fastest thing I've ever seen. I would say probably 4,000, 5,000 miles an hour. I mean, it was instantaneous. It was just like a left of blur. Okay. You know, like a jet screen and by going as fast as it possibly could, you can still make the shape of it and still lock your eyes on to it as it's going. There's no way in hell you could lock your eyes on onto this thing as it's moving. That's how fast it

was. And I say, you know, something moving your eyes are naturally going to pick up that motion. And this didn't do that. I mean, it was just like, just left a very fast pour. And like I said, I've never seen anything like that the way that it moved, the way that it didn't make any sound completely, you know, didn't change pitch of the hum or anything like that, the way that it moved, the way that it didn't make any sound, completely, didn't change pitch of the hammer, anything like that. Did it go at an upward angle? Was it a straight line? It just looked like a straight line from what I couldn't see.

It wasn't like it went up in the sky or anything. It was just like, I'm going over the trees, I was gone. Okay. So yeah, knowing aircraft and things like that, it wasn't something completely faster, it just wasn't something normal. Something completely faster, something doesn't make any sound. I mean, rayar signature, I have no idea. You know, but there's theories that maybe the design of it could

not reflect rayar signals. I mean, I don't know how that go. I'm not, you know, I don't work in that project or anything like that. But it's just something that's very odd to see, very, very alarming. Did the lights stay on as it took off? Yeah. But you can even see as it took off? Yep. But you can even see the blurs of lights even. It was just this black blur that just left. Damn. Yeah.

I mean, it was creepy. It was fucking creepy to see. Yeah. And, you know, of course, we're like dumbfounded because you never see anything like this and this is like some Hollywood shit, you know. Make the ships from Independence, they look like a joke, you know, make the ships from Independence, they look like a joke, you know, how fast this thing was. So it was, it was very, very, very weird

to see that. And like I said, as we were ordered to turn towards a slope that we came down, and that's what I thought it was it. I thought they were going to smoke us, you know, and they kept saying that, you know, we're that. We can kill you right now. As this is going on, they're talking shit. They're looking at us, they're taking pictures, they're doing everything that they're trying to do, clear us. So as we turn this and all of a sudden, I see a sling pass over my head.

I'm like, oh, fuck, they're gonna strangle me. And it wasn't the case. They actually tightened it so well that when they placed it, and it like, oh, fuck, they're gonna strangle me. And it wasn't the case. They actually tightened it so well that when they placed it and, you know, it's cross body, and obviously the buttstock of the rifle is up on the right shoulder and the muzzle's kind of more towards your left. And they tightened the sling so well

that if you try to get it off, it's gonna struggle, right? And they started putting the magazines in and they put all six of them on our vest, but they put it in a way that was intact and they put them like right side up where you can see the brass, right? And they started putting the magazines in and they put all six of them on our vest, but they put it in a way that was intact. They put them like right side up where you can see the brass, right? Because brass to the grass is usually what we always train them or needs to do. So you just take it out, pop it in boom, right? And they did in the case it would be tactically, it wouldn't be a tactical advantage to do that. So by the time you get your weapon off, try to put a magazine in and charge it, you're already gonna get smoked.

Yeah. So, you were standing up when they did this? Yes. Yep. And why I saw that something come over, I mean, I was like, fuck, I thought they're gonna strangle me. Were they talking to you as they were doing this? Yes.

That's when I was saying they're gonna smoke us, they're gonna kill us, they could shoot us, you know, leave us here to die, stuff like that. Why do you think they were, I mean, it sounds like they're taunting us. They were. And I think, leave us here to die, stuff like that. What do you think they were doing? I mean, it sounds like they're taunting us. They were, and I think, you know, my personal opinion is I think they wanted, I think they really wanted to kill us.

But if they made any, I mean, because they didn't have a suppressor's, you know, they had M4A4's, they had like the high speed set out, they had actual ACOG's, they had the honey comes on them, they had the PEC 16's, which are stuck up from what we had. They had steel magazines. Their weapons were like they were brand new.

Did they have nods? No, they have ball caps though. Ball caps. Yep. They had no insignias. Nothing that was signified, what their rank was. Nothing that was signified, what branch if they were. There's nothing to identify. And law enforcement agencies have typically

tried to be uniform with all blocks. You can't really identify who they are specifically. And it's like how these guys were doing the same thing. Because I know in A.O. is at least where you have friendly as you want to identify who's what, because that's how you're going to coordinate between everybody, who's friendly it was not. So if you're having to do anything like airstrikes,

close air support, caszy backs, you know what to say and what they look like, paint the picture for what you're getting into to provide the people that I intel. And these guys were just uniform black, ball caps and it's just, you know, it's very obvious that these guys didn't want to be identified, but they had American dialects, they had American lingo similar to what Marines would use, or at least military. So that's why my suspicion is I think that these guys at one point were uniform military and maybe they got swept in this program, whatever it is. Could you see their faces?

I did. They had three of them. They guys had facial hair, right? Kind of stubble some of them kind of look, not really long beards, but like an operator look, you know what I mean? Rest of the guys didn't. Some of them had kind of blonde hair, at least that you can see from right here.

Some of them had like black hair and then just regular white complexion. Some of them had blue eyes, some of my brown eyes, and I think one guy that I saw had, he was the one that was mainly focused in on us as we were getting searched. And you can see I kind of like Grish blue eyes. So I don't you know I don't know what military force. I mean obviously it's not conventional. Yeah. Because you know the question if they ever come out and they decide to if they decide to

ever do this and say I was there these guys? I would have a question. The question would be, why did you let us go? Or what were you guys thinking? Or why were you guys doing this for the matter? Because this isn't something that, you know, me consciously, there's a lot of things, especially finding out that this happens to do with human trafficking. Morely, I could never do that.

Yeah. That's a touchy subject for me. They might not know. Yeah. And that's just it too. me. They might not know. Yeah. And that's just it too. I mean, they could have. I mean, maybe the guys in the trucks were more of the darker side of things that we're doing the hands-on, and these guys were securities.

I mean, there's so many theories with this. I've seen some flack on Reddit about this. And you got all these armchair quarterbacks. Like, oh, I wouldn't have surrendered my weapon. Oh, yeah. So you get pulled over by a cop. And he's got his gun drawn in because, you know, there's some people that that's their interaction with police

because they're known to be violent people. The cop is not going to take any chances. They're going to pull out their side arm and they're going to approach a vehicle like this till you get the fuck out, right? Are you going to chance anything of this guy shooting you if he's holding you a gunpoint? No. No, you got kids.

You got a wife. You know, you got a bunch of stuff to live for. I know these Marines are the same thing. But it's always these people who are going to talk to this shit who are not there. Because I know for a fact that I'm here today talking to you about this. I was here, you know, talking to the Pentagon and talking to all these other people about this to testify to them and tell them what happened. And I'm glad that, you know, I'd rather get the flagged and the half to the Pentagon and talking to all these other people about this to testify to them tell them what happened. And I'm glad that, you know, I'd rather get the flack and the half to sit there and actually

whatever story they would have spun up to say that, you know, maybe one Marine got PTSD or something, decided to kill his own squad and then kill himself. I mean, whatever they would have spun it to be, if these guys have this kind of technology and these resources, they can do anything. Yeah. I mean, whatever they were to spun it to be, if these guys have this kind of technology and these resources, they can do anything. Yeah. They're above the law clearly. So, as they gave us our stuff back

and we're going up the slope, they're still talking shit, they're still saying, you know, we could kill you, don't fucking look back and we're gonna smoke you. So as soon as we went on the top and all of a sudden, we didn't, you know, they weren't pursuing us, and we fucking high-tailed it. We ran down this fucking slope, trying not to trip over shit, go to the LZ,

and there were still helicopter flying. You know, they were flying relatively low with the shipments that they had. They were attached and then they were landing, dropping the stuff off, and then they were taken off, right? And they were just coming and going back and forth. There was a gun resurgent there that was not in my unit. I think it was attached to the ship.

It might have been kind of like their logistical support unit or whatever it is for, because I know each ship has logistical support for variants, right, that are on the ship, either at the security or whatever it is. There was a gun resurgent there, and he was like fucking pissed because we showed back up and we weren't supposed to. And then we had our weapons, you know, so where were we conditioned for?

You know, we try to play dumb. So obviously we kind of like set up a perimeter and then we adjusted ourselves. Some of my guys, you know, they'd help us get our stuff on slung and then we'd load it back up and you know, act like everything was normal but I can tell everybody's faces were like, what the fuck? Very, very concerning stuff.

And here's the thing though, if stuff is still going on to the state, which I'm sure it is, because if they're, you know, come to find out, I know you probably know this, human trafficking is the biggest revenue generator for these guys, for these organizations, second, drugs, third, weapons. So if they're hitting all three, and obviously they're not going to want to give up their operations being known for that, because it's illegal. It's not going to sit very well in the public eye. There are a lot of people have children. I don't have, I personally don't have kids, but I know you as a dad would not fucking stand for that kind of shit.

Because then you have the thought in your head that it's going to be my kids are going to end up like this that potentially could and it's not a very comfortable thing people realize and having them known to see this happen it sucks. And this is kind of more why I'm pressing towards to get in the resolution done with this, to make the government aware of it, because if that's going on, it's gotta be stopped. That's some evil nature right there.

And I can't believe that there are actually people participating in this. And if they know about it, fucking shame on them. Yeah, you know, it's very interesting. There are two subjects that I really wanted to dive into this year is fascinated with the UFO UAP genre. And I want to expose as much as possible the stuff about human trafficking and everything

that goes into it. We've already started that and to see these two arenas start to intertwine is, I mean, it's very alarming. It tells you how much money is being spent. And it tells you that there's companies here that the government doesn't know about they're participating in this. Yeah. And it's you that there's companies here that the government doesn't know about they're participating in this. Yeah.

And it's not even, you know, something that happens in the United States, it may, you know, it definitely does. But to see the operation, because think about it, it's a perfect cover. Because let's say if you're hiking somewhere out here and you see that unfold and you try to call the police and try to call, you know, federal, state, local agencies, or even the military for that matter to try to report this. Are they going to take you serious? No.

They wouldn't. I mean, it's becoming more and more common. Yes. The time will go on, but yeah, it's, you know, it sucks about this. We're in this time period where everybody knows, I guess not everybody, but it seems everybody that I know knows that the media is false. It's fake. They don't report everything, they lie.

No, they don't. And but at the same time, a lot of people won't put any validation or trust in anything that hasn't been covered by mainstream media. So we're in like this time period where there's a transition happening. There is, and it's thanks to people like you. And I'm glad that there's people with me doing this too, that it's easy for people to sit there and try to judge what they would have done in situations. And the bottom line is, is we have gotten a point in our life,

and I don't mean us specifically, but I mean the rest of the world, where they get so disturbed with things, but they don't do anything about it. They want other people to do it. Well, I'm unhappy with the situation, we're fucking changing or help changing. That's what we're trying to do. We're trying to get the word the situation. We're fucking changing or help change it. That's what we're trying to do.

We're trying to get the war out there. We're trying to get the government, at least the right parts of the government, to do something about this. And among other things that you see with corruption, for example, you talk about the media. Like I was a security, at least for my private security firm for the Americas Frontline Doctors in Washington, DC.

They came to talk to President Trump about COVID not being as serious as what the media is trying to say it is. They said that vaccinations are not something required to beat this. They were talking about natural immunity. They were talking about all the things that we already knew when people were getting silence for it. And I'm seeing these doctors, especially doctors from a gold, you know, so they try to wrap her up because she was part of the January 6th thing. But she's actually a really nice lady. But she's explained to us how everything worked because they took us out to dinner, to try to thank us, and it was very cool to network with these people.

And then all of a sudden, you go after the event, and you start seeing the news articles pop up about these people. And it's completely defamation, it's completely stuff that's not even related. And it's one of those things that it sucks to see because their lives were ultimately ruined for speaking out about the truth. But here's the thing, there comes great risk to stuff. It comes, my life doesn't get lavish

because of what I'm doing today and what I've been doing. It becomes hell. I've been doing. It becomes hell. I've had numerous encounters with fucking helicopters. Havana over my house, they were hovering over my dead house. They get so low where they rattle the walls, scare the shit out of the animals that we've got. His dogs were going fucking crazy at that point.

And he was concerned because he was home and he was like, I've never heard anything like that. So I've taken videos of this too, but seeing black, oxy, and regular black helicopters that don't even have insignias on them, nothing, and they're just sitting there. But the thing about it that is at least noticeable about this, and it's just kind of, there's a hysterical factor to this, how much money they're fucking spending on this to happen to try to either intimidate me or anybody else for that matter.

There's some elected officials and even some government officials, I know there are having the same thing happen to them because they've told me about it personally. Through our encrypted source of what we talk about. So they instructed me that any time that something like this happens that I could record it, take pictures because they'll see the timestamps of everything taken and let them know the time and don't investigate it. Because they can have access to the FAA systems and among other systems that I can actually relay where these people are going. They can listen into their comms because they have to guide through the FAA air traffic where they're going. I live by the airport in Denver

and the air space there is restricted because they have airplanes that are flying every directions to try to pass your airliners or whatnot. So it's not a normal flight path for helicopters. That's what stuck out to me. They were doing it in my place of business where they fly over, they'd stop, and then they would bang off. My dad's house, they get low enough.

It just, it doesn't become glamorous by speaking about this. And you have people maybe that you've met through when you testified in front of the intelligence committee that are helping you, they're telling you, hey, record this, do you stamp it? Let us know any information you can possibly get reported. Because they said they'll look into it

because they know, I mean, in several of them are having to deal with this personally. Is this happening to any of the other whistleblowers that you know? I know it happens that Dr. Grere all the time. Okay. Other whistleblowers I'm not sure. It's not something that, you know, maybe they do notice,

maybe because you're hypervigilant with what's going on, because I mean, with what we're doing, it's putting us in a spotlight, but it's also putting the fucking crosshairs onto us. And the only thing I'm thankful is coming public with this information, at least if something does happen, fucking crosshairs on onto us. And the only thing I'm thankful is come in public with this information, at least if something does happen, and I'm not gonna rule that out,

but if anything does happen and it kind of proves what we're talking about, be true. And the reason being is because they would not be going through these measures to try to intimidate for no reason. We're keeping people up at night because of what we're talking about. And that needs to happen. So, you know, and I even told these government officials and I don't make meetings.

I'm like, first and foremost, you guys need to understand something. I am an arisen mind to do this. I don't feel like harming myself. I don't feel like, you know, because everybody makes the joke of abstaining, kill himself. No way in shape of form related to that, right? And so, same goes here.

Like, I have no means to harm myself. So if anything happens, it's not from me. Well, thanks for saying that. Well, yeah, I mean, that needs to be on record and people need to understand that because if something does, it's not because, I turn a gun on myself or anything like this. Specifically, I'm gonna to talk about something,

El Toro, Rancor Air Station, El Toro. I'm sure you're familiar with what that was on California. There was a kernel there that was, they didn't even know that this was going on in his base. They were flying flights in that had drugs on them. They were loading it on his base and he found out about it. So he went to question them. Two days later, they find them dead.

Really? Yep. And this is on record, anyone knows? Yes, it is. You can Google this information, put Marine Corcoranal Suicide, El Toro. OK. You can pull this out.

Anybody of these viewers can do that, too. The family thought it was very alarming because the circumstances. So they did a second opinion for an autopsy. And they said that there was extreme blunt force trauma to this head, which killed them. But then they had gunshot wounds. So there's a shotgun that were supposed to stage to look like a suicide. And so I'm glad that the family actually got the second opinion to say no, it was bump force trauma in the back of the head is what killed them and they try to make it look like a suicide. And this is a carol and this thing that sucks about this is the Marine Corps itself actually try to use this as a tool to say,

you know what, suicide awareness is such a big thing and it happens with every rank and they were using this guy for this purpose. But obviously you start delving into this information and seeing that, you know, the reports that he was making about these illegal flights coming in and there were unloading drugs. I mean, clearly, these guys, it doesn't matter what, rank you are, it doesn't matter what position in government you have, it doesn't matter what you do for a living. If you're going against what they're exposing,

what they're doing, they're gonna get you. So if something does happen, I'm just putting it out there that it's not from my own doing. I don't fucking piss anybody. It may be in the business world to a degree, but it's not enough for them to sit there and do something like that. And I'm glad that I have a private security firm where I've got some guys who look out for my best interests and they know what I'm doing.

So they've got my back realistically speaking. And that's the thing too, is any other whistleblowers who are like, because I urge other people to come out. If they're needing protection on a way, I'll help with that. I'll orchestrate, but two, the other thing is two, coming out in the fashion that we did, was the best because now they're right people in the government know.

So it's almost like having a pit bull that's one to rip you to fucking shreds, but you have this fence that's between you and this pit bull. Mm-hmm. And I feel like the government's going to be that fence, and along with the spotlight that this put me in. Yeah. Because it's unsettling to sit there and see these helicopters, man.

It's just, it's hysterical. You sit there and wave them, but it's like, keep wasting your fucking money. Let's talk about the debrief that happened afterwards. Yes. What happened when you got back to your command? So when we got back under the ship, we ended up returning our weapons to the armory, went to our birthing, put our gear away,

went back to the flight deck, there was this admiral there. I've never seen him before, I don't know who he is, but it's just very out of place. He gave a deep brief saying, hey, this was good that you guys were doing for these people, which I agree with. But I have no idea who he was, but I've been on six ships,

did several humanitarian operations, and not once have I've ever seen an admiral on any of them. You know, and this was minor compared to the one in 2011 we did with Fukushima, and that natural disaster, never seen an admiral with that, right? So it's just very out of place. So we went to, after we concluded this operation, we ended up docking a subig bay for some liberty.

This is just like four days. So the people that we encountered during that event didn't even bother to take my camera anything, it was in my dumb pouch, but it was small enough. So I don't know why they wouldn't have searched it, but they missed it, right? So here I am, the whole time thinking like, fuck an A, I've got something. I'm not fucking crazy. Neither of us are crazy. Like, we've got something to actually back up if we're to tell anybody about this and we can show them pictures of it off of a camera and not something like a computer screen where they can doctor it.

Well, I spoke to soon because when we end up going out that that first day, we came back to report back to the ship and I saw my camera on my rack. And the memory card was out of it and it was a big memory card and the battery was out of it and I just see the camera sent them like what the fuck. So I checked my locker, it was secure because that's where I had it and I had some stuff on top of the camera in there, you know, in my locker that one top of the camera. And I had another battery in there so I took that battery and I put it in there and then wouldn't even turn the fuck on. And I had some people reach out to me that said, you know, if you had that camera still

to this day that they could do some data retrieval, maybe able to pick it up. I'm like, well, I don't have that camera. You know, I tossed it because the fact that one name turned on and one didn't do anything, like fuck, it's just a paperweight. And of course, 2009, you're not thinking of anything

with forensics, you know, where they could do something. There was people actually willing to do that, which is great. So somewhere out there, somebody's got this footage. Somebody's got that tape because of some reason why they took it. And fun fact is that the other five Marines that were with me, they had their phones taken.

Did you look at the pictures before? Did you have a chance to look at the pictures? I know I took pictures and videos of it because I saw the record thing and I actually can snap the photos and you can see like a blink. That's when we describe it. So I knew for a fact,

but you didn't go back and review them. Okay. No. No. Why not? Why not and see it when anybody's seen? Okay. Just for that reason, you know, it was just something to keep, you know,

if anybody doesn't know about it, then if I start telling people, then obviously there's things that may happen. And of course it did happen regardless. Because as soon as we're out in town, all these people, you know, I don't know who it was who did this by the way, but they didn't even cut my lock. They popped it off somehow because they re-, you know, my lock was still intact. So these guys are obviously know how to do it.

And I don't know who it was, but all of a sudden the other Marines had their stuff taken too. And anybody in the platoon, they didn't have any other stuff touched. It was only us that were there. Did they take anything else? No. Nope. So after we get done with that, we end up going back to Okinawa, right?

And I'm, you know, this is a regular normal day. It's probably fast forward a month after we end up getting back. All of a sudden, a duty marine knocks on my door and says, you need to report up to the CP, like Roger that. So I get my cover run downstairs, run over, and there's nobody there. They're like, what the fuck am weirred? Now the sudden like I go inside

and there's like this big open in this office and then have like these little offices that have these doors they can walk into. So all of a sudden I'm greeted by somebody in a Air Force dress blues. And he didn't have a cover on, but he had the salt and pepper hair, white complexion, older gentlemen. He didn't have a name tag on his uniform, which come to find out Air Force regulations states that you have to have a name tag on your uniforms.

You know, Marine Corps, we don't do that unless it's our camouflage, or if you're a drill instructor or some kind of instructor or some sort of bill that requires you to do that So he calls me over and I go over give him the property in a day and then he tells me go ahead and sit down over here in this office so I sit down and He's just he doesn't bother to sit down. He's just you though. Wasn't the other five Marines No, they end up having the same thing happen, but this guy did separately. It's all individual. Yes. Okay. It wasn't all together. So he told us again, with what you guys saw, you were not allowed to report this, you're

not allowed to talk about to your family, not to your chain of command. I don't care if it's general even asked you. You can go to prison for this, you could be executed. And if you want to chance that by all means, but you need to sign this. So I take the paper and I look it it and it's not a disclosure agreement. The only two things I can recall to this day is that it said TSSCI and it said Indonesian. There's the only things I could recall. But I skim through it and I fucking sign it because here I am thinking, okay, we're just

going to forget about this whole fucking ordeal. And yet this is getting through in our face and here's somebody threatening our fucking lives here with, you know, prison and death, things like that, if we're to talk about this. Did you ask him any questions? I try to ask him who he was and he didn't say anything. There's some speculation going on about this because people who know about this, whether it's other whistleblowers and other people have came for it previously, have said that these guys have the ability to impersonate or even play off as their military officials

or anybody for that matter in the government to try to extract information to see what you know. So I'm not, you know, because it's odd that he didn't have a name tag. He had the only thing I could tell is that he had a stack of ribbons. You know, Air Force gives ribbons a mouse for just about anything,

but he had silver jump wings.bons. You know, Air Force gives ribbons a mouse for just about anything, but he had silver jump wings. This is the only thing I recall. So other people I've talked to in the military community are still active just trying to get information. And now they know because I've came out, they're saying that if it wasn't Air Force Officer, that has to do with some Air Force intelligence. Because a lot of them had jump wings and that's kind of the thing that they like to do.

He says, because he didn't have any pilot wings or nothing, I was saying if I was a pilot, it was just those silver jump wings. Just with the parachute and I had the wreath that come up like this. That's the only thing, and obviously, I had the silver oak leaves on his shoulders. But so after dealing with that, it's like, okay,

I'm like, great, you know, just fucking leave it behind. Where's my career? Don't tell anybody about it, you know, didn't tell my family. I told my dad before I ended up going and getting out of act of doing and going to reserves. I said, you know, there's something

I gotta tell you. And he even told me this, you know, when I started coming out publicly about it and after I hadn't gotten through the right part of the government to go ahead and proceed with this. Now he understands what I was trying to tell him because I said, I just have to wait for the right time to do this because I don't know.

I'm kind of freaked out. You know, it's something. And at that point in 2017, it's when I met Dr. Greer and then fast forward to recently in April, making this happen with the government and telling them and testifying and briefing them what's going on. So the fact that I'm seeing with this is there was a guy apparently it was a Marine that came out with Dr. Greer that was like more than 10 years ago. I think it was then was Joshua or something like that.

He was a stinger operator so he was like an anti-air gunner. If you want to call it that, I don't know the MOS. But apparently he was in South America and he witnessed a crash retrieval. So he stated the same thing, this paramilitar organization. Kind of looked very similar. Obviously this was in the 90s,

so they didn't look that dissimilar to what I saw. But he talked to paramilitary Organization. He talked about the noise that this craft made that he saw that was shot down, had a hole in it. So it was a guitar amp because it's the only way to describe it. If it's reverse engineered, it's going to mimic the same kind of technology that these actual crafts have, right? This Paramilitary Nization, well, yes, that's how they operate. They're not going to be identified in any kind of way. It's going to be a generic black uniforms and gear. So of course, everybody's like, oh, at least they're

reddit that I'm saying. And they said, oh, they're a force of tenor colonel. That's another thing. And it probably wasn't the same guy, but the same method. There's only one word that comes to that. It's called corroboration. And it's not the first time that this guy's saying it. It's not the first time that other people have said this,

but the thing is people wouldn't pay attention to them when stuff's thrown in their face, such as what I'm doing. And what these other people are doing. There's going to be people who are going to come out after me who are going to talk about the same thing. I know I'm not the only one. And maybe you can get one of my Marines that were there to actually come forward and maybe ideally it'd be all of them,

but I know how this goes. And one guy responded when I had these government officials and Dr. Greer trying to bring one of them forward. And he said absolutely not. He said a text message saying, it's not worth the risk to my family, my life, my career, because he's still in the military. He's a commission officer now.

And he was very repetitive about that and he says, don't ever ask me to do this shit again and you need to get the fuck out of whatever you're in. But it's the response that when I asked him to do this and that's where he responded to, what else could it be? Yeah. So in a sense that kind of corroborates it, but it corroborates the seriousness of how

they're in fear of their life. Yeah. The other guy, I didn't hear from anything. And they even taken my social media down because after I started coming forward, I just want people blowing out my fucking inboxes, trying to ask me details or questions or try to get interviews.

You know, I'm not about that. I'm not, you know, the fact that our lives are kind of coming to hell to a degree because of being pursued with these helicopters and things like that. There's other ramifications that may happen that I'm not aware of, but you know what, there's a risk to things and that's how this is going to happen. And if that's what's chosen, then I just got to figure out how to mitigate that as well.

Well, let's talk about, we had spoken offline a little earlier about all the media that's reached out. I know you had an article in the Daily Mail. Daily Mail, and then obviously the other facets of related Daily Mail published this. Well, you may have misconstrued a lot of that. And then I'm going in from David Grush to Bash and Dr. Greer about it. So it was something that they tried to use like to get people's attention and they go into this fucking narrative.

You know, I've had news nation, I've had CNN, I've had MSNBC that reached out through LinkedIn, through other emails, you know, because there's my email gets blasted all over the place these days. And I've got four emails, so I get the fucking shitty one. I hand out the people, because I don't want to get spammed through my business emails because that's money that's sitting on a table, if need be. And I decline every single one of them,

because I know that they're gonna push this false narrative. The false narratives that they're evil ET's, and this is what David Rush has pushed now, saying that, you know, they're malevolent and the ACMP ET's die, or is what David Rush has pushing now, saying that they're malevolent and the ACMP ET's die, re-authorities, kill people, things like that. Well, first and foremost, if there is a species of extraterrestrial that's out there,

and it happened to be fucking malevolent, it's not wise to shoot their shit down or kill any of them because guess what, they're highly advanced. They can make this kind of stuff, imagine what they can do if they weaponize it. So it's something that this needs to stop because all it's doing is just portraying fear out to people.

They did this with COVID. You see the response of that. People are still living like COVID exists to this day, which probably does, but it's not nearly as damaging as what people are saying. It wasn't as bad as it was hyped up. No, it wasn't. And you still have people fucking fray their lives. And this is the thing that is sad to see that.

So this whole, another people are thinking about this going on. Now that all of some worst cases going to happen, it's just this whole fear of being portrayed in the media to try to scare the shit out of people, either get ratings, or try to get people tuned into their networks, it's just ridiculous. It's more of a personal game for them because they get money off of views. Now that you've set the record straight, do you think you'll go on any of these media outlets? No. I'm not looking to get fucking famous from this dude. I just want to get this information out. They're saying, I've had people try to approach me with book deals and shit like that.

Like, get the fuck out of here. This is nothing to do with trying to get money. This is trying to make sure that I'm not trying to convince the public here. And I'm getting that on record too. This isn't trying to convince the fucking public that this is real. I'm trying to convince the government.

And thankfully, they are convinced enough to actually do something about it. That's my main objective objective with this because when they come out and they start talking about the bills that they're talking about Legislations because of people like me standing up Among other whistleblowers coming out and talking about the same kind of corroboration that there's man-made stuff going on That there's nefarious activities going on behind the scenes that nobody knows about and they're making money illegally and they're murdering or killing people doing it. I'm glad you're doing it. I'm glad too, man. It's a lot of work.

It scares the shit out of me. I wake up every day on shore like what the fuck's gonna happen but that's where you had to take a day by day. And at the end of the day, there's people looking out for me which is great in the government and spiritually as well. Good. You know, and that's where I'm gonna thrive with this because guess what?

If they can silence me but they can't silence the fucking truth. And they've been trying to silence the truth for far too long. And it needs to stop. And there's anybody whistleblowers too. This is the thing I'm going to urge. Anybody who has any information with this, whether they witness some more things with this, whether, you know, you're in the opposite spectrum. If you're anybody who's working in these programs,

and others people who are listening to you show about this by the way who are probably on that side of the coin, fucking man up and come to fuck out. Yeah. You got to stop the bullshit. And anybody who knows about this, well guess what, if you know the truth and you're not revealing it, then you're complicit to it too. So I'm urgent. Get a hold of me. I mean, I'll throw my email if you can put that link in and most of all, get a hold of Dr. Gre mean, I'll throw my email if you can put that link in and most of all get a hold of Dr. Greer. I'll put that link in there. Okay, but yeah, Dr. Greer. I mean, he's he's been a good resource and people need to understand just like you not understand with this He is basically a sounding board for all of us who have coming forward and all he's doing is relaying information that he knows from people He's got a strict vetting process with this. I know people gonna test it as whistleblowers

The fact is he's not just gonna take anybody's word because he asked somebody said something, right? I talked to him, I just interviewed him, as you know, and I asked him, how did he decipher who the bullshitters are from the real ones? And we went into that because I think that's extremely important. Yes, it is. He's just not taking anybody's word for it. Yeah. I mean, he asked me repeatedly, you know, in law enforcement, especially, you know, the tactics they use as they ask the similar questions,

and especially the meeting I had with the Pentagon and all these other agencies, it's like, they ask the same thing because they do interrogations on a daily basis. But the fact is, my story is not gonna fucking change. The way that I'm doing details is not going to change. My simple task with this is just to tell people what happened. Good. That's it. I'm not trying to gain profit. I don't want to be fucking famous. The

only thing I, if I'm going to be famous for this, the only thing I want to be famous for is, oh, that's the guy that fucking stood up and wasn't afraid to do it. And he got the truth out there. Good for you. If I can fucking live with that, perfect by all means. Well, Michael, I know it takes a lot of courage to do what you're doing, man. And I just, I commend you for it. And it's an honor to have you in here.

Sean, thank you, man. And what you're doing on your networks or podcasts, your YouTube, I mean, you have a big, big audience. And I hope, you know, I get people trying to poke holes, go for it, I don't give a fuck what they think. They weren't fucking there with me, they weren't there with my Marines. They wanna talk shit, go for it.

I got one last question. Yeah. If you could say anything to the other five Marines that were on the ground with you that day, because they might be watching, what would you say to them? Don't fucking leave me hanging, guys. And don't leave me hanging.

You know, we're family. We're fucking brothers. We went through this shit. You know, and I get that you're you're you got family. I get that you got kids. I get you know, moving on. But fuck, man, I mean, you see what I'm trying to do with this. And I'm just trying to get the truth.

You know, I hope that they do. And if I can't get them to come out and at least understand that, you know, I'm trying to do with this. And I'm just trying to get the truth. I hope that they do. And if I can't get them to come out and at least understand that, there may be some aspects that are uncomfortable with what I'm having to deal with, but it's just a reality of things. It's not pretty. But if you got the fucking balls to do it,

I don't have kids. Me, I still got a lot to lose at the end of the day. And I know they do too. But the fact is is I'm just sick and tired of people bitching about things and not doing anything about it. Me too. And it's all a bunch of talk in this fucking world. It's all a bunch of talk. It's all I see on social media. It's when I'm glad I'm off of that. You know what I mean?

It's when I'm glad I'm off because guess what? I don't get to see that anymore. I get to focus on what I'm trying to do. And for me, having people reach out to me that have open minds and are like, you know, what I actually heard about something like this happening in Vietnam, where they're like, I heard about this happening in 2004. And then there's people who are coming out that are participating in these operations unknowingly because they think the constitutionality of its legal, when it's not.

And that's why this is happening because these people think that at the end of the day they're doing something that's oversaw. And they don't know that degree. It's very compartmentalized as being a CIA. They only know what they're told. And they won't know what they're briefed on and whether or not to have access to depends on what they're doing.

That's how they keep it secret. Yes, they do. And not everybody's going to know that. So I hope that anybody who's in those industries understands that if there's anything that seems off, you know, don't approach at how the guy that was at the Pentagon that talked about US forces being involved in Ukraine. I'm sure you heard about that because you saw FBI HRT rate as house and took him to custody. And he's probably going to sit in prison for the rest

of his life because of revealing classified information on these platforms. I'm not doing that. And these guys that are with me that are doing this, they're not doing it either. And the thing is, is because he did that way, it means it's illegal because it's classified material to a degree. It may be illegal, but he screwed that up. Now, the way that we approached it was because we contacted the government and said, hey, this is what I know. This is what I was subject to.

And they were, of course, because I approached them right away, they're going to reward you with the protection, with the law that they passed to make sure that you are well protected, regardless of what happens in their legal fashion. So these other whistleblowers need to understand that. So they can come forward. They're going to have the same protections. That's why I can paint them a picture and tell them what to expect.

I can point them in the direction of who they need to talk to. You know, and just the humanity needs to understand that this false narrative that's going to be portrayed in the media such as alien invasions and stuff like that. It's been planned since the 50s. There's documentation is talking about this as far as SAIC or science applications or national corporation talks about the stagecraft. You know, honestly, if you're somebody who's such a high as SAIC or science applications and national corporation talks about the stage craft. Honestly, if you're somebody who's such a high developed species or something like that, it's like walking by ants.

Are you gonna fuck with them? No, you're just like, there's fucking ants. They just want to buy it. I think it's like the same thing that they do with us. Why are they gonna fucking try to fuck with us? But the same thing, we all of a sudden start shooting them down and then reverse engineering their stuff and then trying to weaponize it

and then we're using it against each other. For the various activities, trying to use the fucking, you know, these advanced projects to do very illegal, very dangerous stuff. It's just, it blows my mind how much this goes down. Yeah. I'm just, my goal is just to hopefully get this fucking changed. Well, I hope it does. Me too, bud.

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