Shawn Ryan Show - #72 Tony Cowden - CIA Operator Survives Deadly IED Blast that Sent Him to the Morgue | Part 2

Episode Date: August 30, 2023

Former Green Beret and CIA contractor Tony Cowden is back in part two of this two-part series. Part one dove deep into his upbringing and early career. Now, we're getting into Ground Branch. Ground Branch is known for being the CIA's covert counterpart to Special Operations. Ground Branch has been active in many theaters of war–Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria, though their actions are rarely covered in the media. We cap off the episode with Tony's transition into civilian life and ultimately into a grueling campaign for Congress where he saw the hypocrisy and corruption of the USG first hand. Tony and Shawn discuss the state of America and what they believe is coming next. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://lairdsuperfood.com - USE CODE "SRS" https://gcu.edu/military https://goldco.com/ryan | 855-936-GOLD #goldcopartner https://moinkbox.com/srs Tony Cowden Links: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tony_cowden Twitter - https://twitter.com/TonyCowdenNC Training - https://www.capableincorporated.com Youtube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@capableinc4861 Trevor Millar - https://ambio.life Please leave us a review on Apple & Spotify Podcasts. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website | Patreon | TikTok | Instagram | Download Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Find your purpose at Grand Canyon University. Private, Christian, and Affordable. Visit gcu.edu slash military. Today's episode of SRS is a part two of former Green Beret and CIA contractor both GRS and Ground Branch, Tony Cowden. If you haven't seen part one, I highly recommend you take a minute, go back and check that episode out

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please just go over to Twitter or X and follow me at Sean Ryan 7.62 because we'll be putting some good stuff there as well. All right everybody, love you all very much. Please enjoy the show and we'll see you soon. Previously on the Sean Ryan show. I think General Wesley Clark did an interview in 2007. Maybe a whatever. If you, YouTube search, General Wesley Clark, 7 Nation War, I think. We'll get you to you, too. This was on her about the 20th of September.

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That was. My faith has never been compromised. All right, Tony, we're back from the break. We are at your five MEO experience. Man, you know, so... It's probably worth backing up just a little bit. Talking about the eye began sign. Like I said, I went from my injury. I was tired of it, man. I hurt all the time. My brain had a headache since 2009 and it was, there

were just some days where, you know, had to hide from light and shit and then that uptick, it was rough. So, you know, Vets, Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions that Mr. Amber and Marcus Capone started, they were the much scholarship And they, I mean, what an amazing job they're doing. And so they put me on the phone with a counselor. I think I had to talk to them three or four times. Like you had to do it before you go down there. And his name is Andrew. Awesome, dude.

And I'm like, hey, bro, I just want my headaches to go away. If this thing can help my brain figure out how to reroute neurons and maybe heal tissue, whatever it's doing, I'm down for it. Because nothing else. There's been zero progress in modern medicine for brain damage, the old word for TBI, which is traumatic brain injury. And my spits getting in the MRIs and stuff, you can see the damage in my brain. brain damage, the old word for TBI, which is a traumatic brain injury. You know, my specs are getting in the MRIs and stuff.

You can see the damage in my brain. I mean, it's different. You know, to see who's damaged. Well, man, so in my head, I'm telling Andrew, like, bro, I don't have any issues. I am fine. PTSD is not a thing. I'm good. And we start talking and he's asking the questions to make me think.

And I'm like, okay, he's like, well, look, man, just, you know, write down some questions for the medicine. You're going to be able to talk to it. It'll react with you. It's inside you. I'm like, okay. And we get to talking about like some of the endurance events I've done over the years, iron triathlons, Okay. And we get to talking about like some of the endurance events I've done over the years, iron triathlons, then the 200-milers. You know, like earlier, Melissa said, you know,

a lot of times endurance athletes are either running away from something or towards something. And I was a little bit of both for sure. And at the time, if you ask me, dude, why in the, are you running a 200 mile marathon? Like, what's, why? And my answer was to see if I can. Was that true looking back?

Probably not. I think for the longest time, the best feelings, like, and I don't mean like, the greatest feelings I had came from pain. After getting blown up, like I said, man, I don't have good coordination in my left hand, left foot sometimes. I don't know, I just felt like

maybe I was just looking, you know, you want to feel something. I think I mentioned earlier, I think I'm pretty good at convincing myself of things. If I need to, you know what I mean? Like, like, selection. It's only three weeks. I can do anything for three weeks. That's why I pass selection. I just, that's how I look at things. Like, if I want to do something, I will convince myself. This is how I am going to do it, whatever, right? So I think, you know, I had convinced myself I had no PTSD and I didn't suffer from PTSD. My daily life was unaffected for the most part by any PTSD type stuff. So I said, so I'm talking to Andrew and he's like,

hey, I really want you to just think about your motivation for doing all that endurance stuff. I'm like, I mean, it's behind me, bro. I'm not really into it anymore. For instance, no, the thing I did, he's like, yeah. But every hobby that you've told me about requires some sort of pain just to participate. So I just want you to think about it. Okay. Well, so we go and of course, you know,

everybody in Tijuana, Trevor Malar, who you've had on, just awesome, just awesome, bunch of people, super professional. I've never seen civilians that behave so professionally, so organized, I felt safe. And I think that's a big deal with a lot of guys what I began is they're scared of it, right? Like, I had never done psychedelics before. Growing up, I had buds that would drop acid

or eat some shrooms. What in my thing, I wasn't interested. I was too busy being really bad. It wasn't my thing. So I think it was my first psychedelic experience, which they thought was funny anyway, because typically folks have dabbled in other things, you know. Well, so, as I got into it and started seeing the visions and seeing and feeling things, I couldn't help it.

I mean, when I said I tried really hard not to go there with any bias, so Primo, Johnny, told me about speaking with his mom, his mother died when he was young, too. And somewhere in the mix of things, I quit worried about my TBI and started wanting to talk to my mom. And so for your listeners that don't know, in your visions of the Ivegan, like you can see relatives, in some cases, you see relatives you've never met, like DNA ancestral. There's a theory that memories can be passed down in a DNA too. And so sometimes people report seeing their great-grandfather or talking to them, right? I mean, a conversation that is as real as any they ever had with them.

So like I said, man, I just got it in my head that I wanted to talk to her. And then I kind of came to and it all stopped. I mean, they've been pretty intense visions, man. I had seen what I, fairly certain was, you know, an angelic creature, potentially an anotia angel. I mean, I'm still under the, you know, the spell of it all. So it's not like I have a clear, you know, picture of reality, and I'm aware of that, right?

That's another cool thing I thought about I began is that you can almost turn it off and think it's not like you're absorbed in it. There's nothing fearful about it for me at all. I didn't feel out of control. I'm not a super control freak anyway. I'm kind of like, let's see what happens, type of dude anyway, you know. So I remember, you know, Trevor and everybody saying that after everyone settles down in their initial really high vision, their active stage, we're going to go down to one person watching you guys. And for your audience, like I said, super professional, I began can be dangerous to the heart, if, you know,

to unfit people. So you're hooked up to heart rate monitors, EKG, all that stuff. And I came to, and I was like, oh, so I began, can make you sick, they call it purging. And after my first initial visions and stuff, I purged. And it felt like I had purged for like five minutes. Everybody has their little pay-offs, so if you do throw up, you can throw up in it. And I thought I threw up a couple of times.

And I threw up salt. I threw up not long after we took the medicine. So it's it's capsules for the audience. And so I started wondering, did I throw up my medicine? I had the same experience. Oh, really? And I'm like, it's can't be over. I'm not done. It's not what I came here for.

So I look around and I miss the queue. There's one person there. There's only one person there. And Trevor had told us that after we all settled down, and the crazy visual phase was of subsided, he's like, could you move around? You guys will be moving around. you won't even know it. Not walking around anything, because people don't know.

I mean, he makes it where you can barely walk. Like, I almost like a full body Parkinson's patient, right? Like, you can hardly get up, boom. Something you can get up, go play in traffic on that stuff. It must be something kind of awesome, safety mechanism, right? Like, keeps you from running out in the jungle and getting eaten by whatever. So again, I'm Mr. Q, man, and I'm looking around

and the young lady who was there, she was the newest on the team. Her name is Sandra. And I was like, Miss Sandra, I think I threw up in my medicine. I need you to call Trevor, I think I need a booster. Cause I had heard about guys who got boosters, who they just didn't get enough. I was like, and she she's like she didn't speak as good as a no-show some of the others and you know your whispering because in

room with other other folks and She's like, yeah, okay. I was like no seriously. You need to call Trevor and she's like, yeah, not a problem. I'll go downstairs Well then I fell asleep Can't sleep when I began right? Well, then I fell asleep. I can't sleep when I began, right? I went to sleep, thought I was asleep. I laid back down, and so when I opened my eyes again, she's gone, and the next staff members there.

And there were three hour rotations. Again, I'm not computing this. Trevor had told us all this, but... What making sense to me? Telling next guy, I'm like, hey man, and then I remember being a little aggravated that he didn't know, right? Fireguard, right?

Like, you know, one dude's up. When you come on duty and I go off duty, I brief you up on everything I see. Well, they didn't do that, so I'm getting frustrated. I'm like, you know, I'm telling you, right? You need to, and I'm like, what time is it? And he's like, it doesn't matter what time it is. You know, just back into it, and I'm like, no, is it? And he's like, it doesn't matter what time it is. You know, just back into it.

And I'm like, no, you need a call driver. So I fall asleep again. And in my head, if you can't sleep when I'm again, I must have thrown it up. Well, later on I find out that I was still pretty active when I thought I was asleep. The medicine just didn't want me to see whatever it was doing. Best explanation I got.

Well, the next time I woke up, the sun's up. I can tell through the windows, even though they're pretty blacked out, that it is daylight outside. And everyone else, they're given an IV and a medicinal cocktail to help transition you off the eye again and so you can go sleep and sleep it off and have what they refer to as the gray day. Some people call it something like a hangover. I don't know, I think you just this kind of, you just feel for me, it was just blah. I was just blah.

I was just tired. I didn't feel bad. I just felt exhausted. But, so they're trying to give me this cocktail, and I'm telling the, one of the main medical practitioners, is medical staff for post-uralistin, and it's like I said, very professional. And I explained to her what's going on.

She speaks good, and she goes, okay, I'll call Trevor. And I finally, I was like, thank you. She comes back upstairs a few minutes later, she's like, hey, you know what, we're not going to give you the medicine. Trevor will be here in a few minutes. I'm like, great, great. And I, like I said, I keep feeling like I'm falling asleep. I'm not asleep, and I don't know it. Well, I opened feeling like I'm falling asleep. I'm not asleep and I don't know it.

Well, I hope my eyes in there's Trevor. It's the next to me. I wish I could explain to people, Trevor. Gentle, kind, wise, first age, just understanding. Like, I've never met a single person that I felt like wise, first age, just understanding. Like, I've never met a single person that I felt like there was zero judgment, nothing by way of judgment from him, only understanding. So I explained to him what I thought had happened.

I'm gonna know to me, he knew I was wrong. He knew it had been over an hour and a half from the time I took the medicine to the time I perched, felt like five know to me, he knew I was wrong. He knew it had been over an hour and a half from the time I took the medicine to the time I perched. It felt like five minutes to me. He knew. But he listened to me and nodded his head in understanding.

He says, well, it's a little late for a booster. It's like, but I could give you another dose. Okay. Yeah, I didn't give you another dose. Okay. Yeah, I didn't get what I came here for, so. He's like, man, it's, if you do, it's gonna make for one hell of a long day. And I go, this is Wednesday morning. I go, I'm here through Friday.

Ah! Ah! Oh! He just smiled. He just smiled, nodded. And that super chill smile at his, you know. He's like, okay, I'll go put it together. So he make the doses per body weight. So he came back, how much ever time. And he holds it.

And he goes, are you sure? I mean, he just smiled. No, he gets, yeah, you're sure. And bro, it didn't take long. That whole waiting period that you got on the first dose, there was no waiting period. It was minutes later, at least in my perception of time, and I'm immediately started seeing my guide was there, and he was agitated with me. Like, he asked me, what are you doing back here? And I was like, you know why I'm here? And I know you know where she's at.

I'm back, I want to talk to her. I want to talk to my mother, take me to her. Now I'm like, like I'm back, I want to talk to her, I want to talk to my mother, take me to her. Now I'm like, like I'm in charge. And not him, but the medicine, God said, that's not what we're doing this time. I know, okay. It was that kind of voice. It was commanding, but full of... It trusted.

It didn't question it. Not once. It was, oh, okay. And brother, immediately, my head, where it hurts from my TBI warmed up. I could feel it, it was hot, but I could see it. I could see that part of my brain as if I was holding it in my hands. Wow.

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And again, this entire time, and I wish I could explain it to people how high definition your visions are on the stuff. Like what you see right now is best I could describe 2% of the definition of what you're seeing when the visions are not again. I don't know if you experienced something similar. It was just super high death. A lot more pixels than we have here. And my spine, and then my hip, and I have a rod in my femur,

and I could feel the rod, as if I was holding in my hand. Well, there's no nerves inside your bones. I can't feel that rod, but it was that's if I was holding it. Then my knee, it's a little scuffed up ankles got a thing and a broken Bone in my foot one thing after they're very sequential And then I kind of I guess fell asleep again

And Dude I wait back up and there's Trevor in the same spot last spot I saw him. We're in the same clothes. I only had his puppy his little dog with him. And I was like, hey, what's up, Brown? He's like, hey, how's it going? I'm like, I go to reach to pet the dog. And apparently I look crazy because that dog was like, rap.

So he called to let me pet her the day before. She was like, nah, dude like, my hair was long. It was all mad at her to the side of my hair. And I didn't know this, you know what I mean? You sweat and when you purge and you're skin and stuff, just feels like it just pushes things out of you. That's just the nastiness. And so my hair was kind of messed up,

but I look crazy and I didn't know it. But the poor dog was like, nah. And so there's trauma, right? was kind of like messed up, but I look crazy and I didn't know it. But the poor dog was like, blah, you know. So there's Trevor, right? Is this, as if he's still there from, I talked to him a few minutes ago. And he's like, yeah, man, just checking on you. How's it going?

I'm like, yeah, you know. And so I had not still not told Trevor the reason why I wanted, was my mom. At this point, he's still, they all, the whole staff, things, I'm the weirdo. It's not there for PTSD, but we're seeing if it will help purely with TPCI. So I didn't want to contaminate any of that. And I also didn't want him to go, Hey, man, you know, I'm not going to give you another dose because you had a good trip. So I probably should apologize to Trevor for withholding.

Uh, and he goes, I'm like, yeah, man, I'm good. Why, what's up? And he's like, okay, no, just check it on you, man. You've been down for a while. I'm like, what time is it? I can see his phone, he's like, it's 4.33. The last time I talked to him a couple of minutes ago was like seven in the morning, 7.30.

Wow. Almost nine hours had gone by like that. Wow, that whole sequencing of, you know, the medicine working on my physical ailments. So, you know, a couple of hours later, whenever it was seven o'clock, I think, I started getting up. Yeah, I come on back down, so they gave me the re-uptake meds, magnesium,

and whatever else is in the IV. They're like, yeah, so let's get you on downstairs. And I start coming downstairs and there's the seal that I was there with a seal that I had known from 10 years earlier. And, you know, like I said, and I'm not a hippie, but I'm a woodspin. Right.

I've always appreciated nature. I love animals. I don't do not kill animals. I do harvest them and eat them, but I've never been like if you kill it, you got to grill it. And that's how I was raised. Right. You don't kill something and let it my way my dad raised me. So, nothing is a coincidence. And this seals presence turned out to be amazing for me, but later he told me my presence for him was amazing for him

for odd reasons and I'll get to both. But, for him, for Andre's and I'll get to both. But I get up and there he is and he's like, are you okay? And he's a big dude, man. He's not a little guy, right? He's a big, big dude, big presence type of guy. And I'm like, man, I'm great. Well, come to find out, man, he had been checking on me all day long instead of sleeping

like everybody else. He's like, oh, he's, you know, come to find out, man, he had been checking on me all day long, instead of sleeping like everybody else. He's like, oh, how's he doing? How's he doing? And they like, to keep telling him, no, dude, go back downstairs. And then we go downstairs, man. And he and I are sharing a room. Again, the only one sharing rooms, not a coincidence,

not my mind. And our beds are opposite of each other. And I just kind of plot down, you know, still kind of things are still moving a little bit, some sparklies and stuff. And he looks at me, he sits on the edge of his bed and I'm like, sitting there, and he goes, bro, you look like spilled fuck. And I go, I've never heard that phrase before but dude, I really do feel like shit.

He's like, I don't doubt it, bro. Two? What is wrong with you? I'm like, I don't have time to answer that question right now. I think I need to eat. I'm not hungry, but I really fuck. I need to eat. He's like, bro, I felt a lot better after I'll go get you some food

Dude goes to get me food, man, you know, and just literally like Sweet, you know what I mean? Yeah, and that's a weird way to describe another man looking out for me But just it's what he was doing. He's trying to look out for me, you know, and that's that's brotherly shit right there And I'm coming to find out he didn't have a very pleasant eye-vigain ride. So his assumption was I had double it yet. I did not have a very bad ride compared to him. And for folks who are listening, sometimes people do see things bad experiences in their life and replay them. Wow, while in the medicine. Well, anyway, it was kind of cool, man, because the same young lady, son, her new lady, she's, tries to bring me to my food. Like, she sends him downstairs. He's like, they're making you food. I'll be right back. Well, he's like, she tells me later, like, oh yeah, he had to bring you the food.

So I ate, everybody goes to sleep, I toss and turn all night long, and I'm trying to be quiet because I'm sharing rooms, you know, I want to get up and walk around and stuff, whatever. So I just basically kind of toss and turn all night because I can't really sleep. And the sun starts to come up. I go and take a shower. And so the first thing I noticed is myself in the mirror. And I'm like, oh, that's what spilled butt looks like. Dude, my hair was almost halfway.

And dreadlocks on this side. This was sticking out crazy. I looked, I mean, I just looked like I've been drug through the freaking landfill. I mean, I just look horrible. I was like, whoa, I thought people said you'd come out there and decided it was looking better. It was not immediate.

I'm like, dude, I get in the shower. So I have this weird genetic thing called parathesis. In other words, I don't feel my skin. Like most people feel their skin. Like if I get cut or minor burns, burns stuff I just don't feel it. No, anywhere. So like I'm not ticklish. So the places like people are typically ticklish sensitive areas. I feel more there. But like places where you're not ticklish and your skin is tough I feel nothing.

Wow. It's just genetic. My dad had it. He like, he didn't feel nothing, that dude. Hey man, you're leaking. You know, and yeah, you need stitches man. Like he was, dude was ruffling himself. But, so I got a taste of that, I got a bit of that. So I turn the shower on man. And get my shower and I can feel the fucking every drop hitting my skin. Dude, I'm 46 at this point.

46 years old, I've never felt this before. I got out of the shower and stood there and looked at it. Like, touched it a couple of times. And I was like, fuck. couple of times and was like I get back in the shower. I think I spent probably 30 minutes there. I was like this is amazing I mean I can feel every drop It was amazing. I was like holy shit and so I get myself cleaned up and I go back and put in some clothes on. I've always been a jeans type of dude, you know? Put my jeans on, I'm like, right on.

And I reached out and grabbed a t-shirt. And I was like, I smelled it. I was like, hmm, and it was at that point. I realized that I got my smell back from COVID because I could smell the detergent on the shirt. And I was like, huh, that's interesting, you know of itself. But why does this shirt feel so nasty? Synthetic.

No shit. I didn't want to touch it. Synthetic, like, underarm or style, type of, you know, wicking shirt shirt or whatever. And hell, 99% of my wardrobe is wicking outdoor clothing. Yeah. Anyone touch it. Put on a cotton t-shirt and I was like, ooh, that feels good.

Bebuffed upstairs and the staff was awake and there, the cooks were all there and everything. They are typically not there because you start at night and they all go home. So the support staff, they got to hear me purging the morning before. And they don't think that some of them had ever even experienced that. So like the housekeeper or the chefs, you know, they got to hear me throwing up pur purging, gagging. Well, I get a walk in, and it was kind of cool though, because everybody just stops, because they're not expecting me to be up. They're expecting, I guess, a bios to start getting up. And Solomon is there, and she's just, like I said, I don't know how to explain her still yet. Just an amazing, amazing creature that just made me feel safe.

She's one of the counselors there. She's done the medicine. It's just, I don't know, dude. I wish I could explain her better. Just like Trevor, I guess, you know, understanding, not judgmental but at the same time I feel like, like if you crossed her, you know what I mean? Or if you crossed the one that she loved, I felt like I just got this feeling from her that she was just more to her than that. I don't know, hard to explain. Well, she's standing there and all looking at me and they're like,

She's standing there looking at me and they're like, You know, it was like this weird, slow clap or whatever, like, holy crap, you're alive. You know, so, I did, I was like, the chef's like, hey, you know, we're not supposed to have breakfast ready to like 10, it's like 8, 8, 30 maybe. But I'll make you a smoothie. And bro, growing up, if you offered me a strawberry

or a banana or a clump of broccoli, I'll take the broccoli. I have never liked fruit. I don't like fruit. I don't like fruit desserts. Like, I don't wanna, I don't know. That's first time I think. There's dudes made me a smoothie. And, you know, head strawberries and bananas and pineapples and who knows what else it is. Nothing. There's dudes made me a smoothie. And head strawberry is a banana is a pineapple

and who knows what else it is. And I was like, I'm like literally talking to the dude who made it to me. I'm like, have you tried this? And he's like, yeah, I'm like, dude, this is amazing. This is amazing. I'm like, have you tried this? And they're like, well, calm down, bro, it's a smoothie. But it is amazing. I'm like, have you tried this? And they're like, well, calm down, bro, it's a smoothie.

But it tasted amazing. Like I had never had anything like it before in my life. Yeah. And it was, everything they do down there is clean food, non-it stuff, and well prepared. And it's just like holy crap. So anyway, man, freaking, everybody starts to get up and have a little round table circle.

And so there was a female veteran there with us. Her commander had a rater. 33 years ago. More than once. And go around the circle. And they're basically, so Trevor's there, his partner, Jonathan is there, Salomey, the whole crew's there. And they're basically asking us, you know, anything you want to share?

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That's moink box dot com slash S. R. S. She goes for the past 33 years. She goes for the past 33 years. Every time I close my eyes and go to try to go to sleep, I can feel him on top of me. Fuck. And she goes, last night it was the first time in 33 years I shut my eyes and went to sleep, and he's gone. And we're gonna all just sat there. Wow. Like, wow. You got to, uh, got to, everybody went around kind of said this net.

I was still processing, man. I was still pretty overwhelmed. The folks shared, but I remember they got around the circle and they were asking, you know, what anybody consider doing it again? The both seals who were there, like, they didn't have pleasant experiences. It's just funny because here we are six, eight months later, they both are scheduled to go back. Right, so initially they were a little overwhelmed.

They're like, fuck no, I'll never do it again. They both have said they need, they feel like they need another one. I got to me and I was like, yeah, I do it again right now. And they were like, everyone's looking at me like, what's wrong with you? You know, and I'm like, it just told me,

told me not this time. So therefore, next time. And that's when I fast up that during the first, first journey, I got it in my head, I wanted to talk to my mom. And that's when I explained it to him why, you know, and again, nothing but understanding love from Trevor, from Jonathan, from all of them.

Love. And so, yeah, later that afternoon, I suppose I do the five EMEO, five EMEO DMT, which is the venom from the Sonoran Toad. Some people call it Toad, some people or whatever. Real quick, Tony. You went down there to treat TBI. Right. And we talked about that at breakfast,

we talked about it's been brought up a couple of different times during the show that you got blown up. I think we should go into that experience Yeah, so myself and my courage My brothers We're in a sedan and we are the lead vehicle.

We were leading Ranger instrument to a target. Target too big for us. So, you know, Platoon Plus, worth of Rangers and strikers, not far behind us. We were supposed to pull up and when we stop the gate prior to us and to the left, they need to just drive through that gate. That's the target house. We didn't get there.

We got stopped at a light, in traffic, and we just happened to part next to an EFP that was meant for a striker. We should. And so if folks don't know what an EFP is. Exposedly formed penetrator, exposedly formed plate, you'll hear it called. Basie piece of steel, copper, other metal with exposes packed evenly behind it, prime dead center.

So when it's prime blasting cap, so when the blasting cap goes off, this exposed in the middle starts detonating, goes to the outside, but it turns the plate into a spalling projectile. Excuse me. And poor man's anti-tank weapon. And like I said, it was not, it was made for a striker tank, not for an armored beam

W. a striker tank, not for an armored BMW. And so in those armored sedans, the back seat is where the armor is. The chunks areFP basically hit that plate in the side. And so spalled two boys in the back seat. Now they were DNA. Driver died from his injuries eight or 10 hours later. When the rangers picked us up, scraped us up, we had been blown across, and this is highway one, Broadway on the east side of Mosul,

just north of Noah's Tomb. And so in between Noah's Tomb and the big grand mosque. And we were only, a mile from our target. Our target was just behind the grandmask. And man, it went off. Last thing I remember is buckling my helmet. I pulled my helmet out of the floor, right? And because we were getting close to being on target,

and I remember clipping my helmet in. And I think I remember being in the hospital and the cash. I think I remember being wheeled into it on a stretcher, but I don't know if it's my imagination or not. The next thing I remember is I woke up in Germany, hurt everything hurt.

My guts hurt, my asshole hurt. Like my toes hurt. I mean, I had just been crushed by a pretty powerful explosive that took that 8,000 pound-ish car and blew it across eight lanes of traffic to include hitting other cars and knocking it out them out of the way and about another hundred feet down in alleyway. Fuck.

Right? Well, apparently the Rangers just powed me in, thought I was part of the material and people in that car. I was, I had some burns on me, nothing too too bad. They took me a bit more. Are you serious? Three or four years later, I was teaching

or running, helping run the course for the NSA's sister program to GRS. And we're all done. And this younger angel was like, hey, you know, it was like, welcome to the team type of stuff, you know, the guy at the manager in this young ranch was like, hey, you said you worked up in Mosul with the other agency and stuff and that was, yeah, yeah, I'm up there for this and that was yeah yeah I'm up there for this not and he's like we're did you know those guys at that time the EFP or that bomb or whatever the ID hit that car and killed that whole team I was like you know yeah. I'm like, yeah, I know him.

I was like, I wasn't dead asshole. He's like, what? He's squad, his striker put us in their striker and took us home. Yeah, the fuck out of here. Small world, right? He was like, dude, I was a fucking e-tube, man. I was pulling security. I don't really remember anything.

He's like, I never, you know, he's like, dude, I was a fucking E2, man. I was pulling security. I don't really remember anything. He's like, I never, you know, he's like, but yeah, man, freaking small world. Wow. So my memory before 2009 was shoddy at best. Like most of my childhood gone, completely gone. Bits and pieces and again, things that I could not tell you if I wasn't making them up.

It was just really hard to decide. Is that a real memory or is that my imagination? And over the years, things have come back and it's fun. I've never had a memory pop back up that I was like, whoa, or freaked out about. I was like, oh, cool. Very cool. Like, I didn't remember past relationships. I mean, things were gone, just gone, white, clean. And so over the years, things have come back. Things have come back a lot since I began. Well, I'd hear that.

A lot. How long were you in a coma? Seven days. Seven and a coma? Seven days. Seven and a half, eight days. And then it was, like I said, speech therapy, occupational therapy, physical therapy. I had to learn to walk and talk again. How long did that take?

A-ha. A-ha. I still stutter. You know, you can catch it when I'm tired. I covered up my southern accent. So, you know, still some things lingering, but I was back there for one reason. I was pissed, man, these were my brothers, you know. So when people talk about anger and retribution, revenge, whatever you're going to call it, being a bad thing, well, that's what got me healthy. I would go to the gym three, that's what got me healthy.

I would go to the gym three, four, five times a day. All right, I was getting better. I was like, I broke my back one time. They said I wouldn't walk again, watch this. You know, the hardest part was switching hands. So my left hand wouldn't work. And so I had to go to the range and spend thousands of rounds worth of shooting in my right hand

to get it up to the same level. You know, back then we always do a lot of switch hand working. And as a left handed person, in fours are great, in your right hand. I was like, wow, this thing's so much easier to use. Wow, I can reset button, and this button, as a lefty, the gun's kinda goofy, you know. And there was none of those ambidextrous stuff

back then, glocks. You know, slide releases on the wrong side. That's not a big deal. But the big thing, the main thing, I was having these seizures in my hand, and on with you this. God. What if you're holding a clock and your hand seizes?

Not a good thing, right? So I had to switch. So initially I just switched to pistol right hand and kept trying to shoot rifle left handed, but there would be times where I would fumble with the safety. And it just made me uncomfortable. I was like, I can't risk it. I would fumble with the safety. And it just made me uncomfortable.

I was like, I can't risk it. I can't risk one of my teammates getting killed because I can't handle my weapons like I used to. So, every day, every day, gym, run. Chris, I was, I was, luckily, no one ever prescribed me, like oxy or anything, but I was eating pork and sets, you know. But not bad enough, not like I was like addicted

to anything, but it was what was, I needed them because I hurt so bad. Yeah. But that was only a couple of months worth, man, because after the blast injury part of it, like after my lungs healed and my gut healed, I was mostly okay. It was just neurological after that.

They get my brain to work again and reconnect and learn how to talk. Yeah, man, I mean, it was rough, but honestly, looking like there was never a time that I was sad, depressed. I was pissed. Do you remember learning how to talk again? Oh, yeah. So could you not say anything at all? Oh, no, no, no. I Can make noises and sounds and I had words and stuff, but it was

Could you understand what people were saying? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, my right ear was completely destroyed, but I could hear. I mean, I was with it. The headaches and stuff like that could interfere with things, but I wasn't very light-sensitive then. Like I was last June. That was new in June, the light-sensitivity part. That's why when it first happened, I thought I was having a stroke. But yeah, learning to talk was interesting and it wasn't as hard.

I mean, I already knew how to do it. I just had to relearn it. So it was like I was learning, I was relearning it. How do they do that? A lot of actual computer stuff, you sit on a computer like YouTube, and they're talking it just like you, almost like the way you talk to a baby and get them to sound things out, and it's instruction.

If you want to say the, there would be the lady on the screen, she's like, the, you know, and explain to you what you're trying to do with your tongue and your mouth. I mean, like, you want to put your tongue into the bottom of your mouth, press it into your teeth, whatever. It's step by step, I mean, shit, yeah. Just like rehab, occupational therapy,

physical therapy, speech therapy. How long did that take? Not that long, a few, a couple months. Okay. And just like when I broke my back, part of it was me just like, I gotta get back to work. So I put in way more work than most guys.

I mean, most guys in this this facility dude, they're done. Their crews are over there missing limbs and they're fucked up. I never saw myself as one of those dudes. I just was, I'm just gonna be here for a couple weeks guys. You know, and I was, I was only there for a couple months and that was the thing right? Like I didn't, my family had no idea when I was gone, when I was only there for a couple of months, and that was the thing, right? Like, I didn't, my family had no idea when I was gone, when I was home, you know? I didn't have anybody important in my life. Me and Melissa weren't serious at the time,

or anything at the time. I just didn't have anything serious going on as far as anyone I needed to be accountable to. So when I got home, the best thing I could come up with was because I was lethargic, kind of just dragging ass. I told people I had mono.

What the hell? That's why I feel like I need to sleep so much. I'm tired. No, my body was just trying to recoup. Most people bought it. They didn't have a reason not to. I just didn't want people that cared about me and to worry about me.

And I also didn't, I didn't want to hear it. Maybe you should stay home. Maybe you should stop that. I'm gonna hear that. So to me, it was easier just to make bullshit up and stay on track, forget my ass back over there and finding the people responsible. And we did. Yeah, I mean, I can say with almost eight months later, I was back over there and we were

supposed to be doing this, but on my side, I was hunting those. Yeah, man. I'll tell you, man, those boys, man, and the Kurds are just awesome. And I think that's why I could feel so much for the seventh and third group guys that had to watch their commandos and their Afganese be abandoned. Cause I was like, if this is what was happening to my brothers, my Kurds, they called me and asked me if I would go to Kurdistan.

I would get on a plane. You know? Crazy shit bro. Yeah, yeah I was. Thanks for sharing that. Yeah, I said man freaking My headaches are

non-existent and I had it since 2000 that they're gone It's incredible. I don't Stutter like as much as I did if I get tired. I'll stutter I don't stutter like as much as I did. If I get tired, I'll stutter. I don't look for words. I haven't put my keys in the refrigerator since I went to Tijuana. Short-term memory is exponentially improved, exponentially.

I mean, I really feel like most of the starting and become frustrated with me because my memory is gotten so bad and I'd promise her I'd do something and then not do it. Don't stuff, like just stuff around the house that she wanted me to do, things that I wouldn't like I didn't want to do. I just would forget. I would forget she even asked me and I don't mean like, you know, like if your wife asked you to do something,

and you just kind of forget, and then as soon as she says something, or you see her coming, oh, shit, I forgot. No, dude, it was as if the conversation never happened. Lively going. Try explaining that to someone. Yeah. I have no words to explain, literally looking at you going, I don't remember that part of my life and it happened this morning.

So I lived that way for a long time not knowing what I had forgotten, which is a weird way to live. And I mean guys would be like, Hey man, we talked about that yesterday. Really? Sorry bro. You mind telling me your answer? Because that zero recollection of even seeing you yesterday. Yeah. I learned a little bit with it. You know, I learned to also hide it from people. Not because I was like trying to hide it.

I just didn't want to talk about it. I got other shit to do. You know, I got things to do. I don't want anybody trying, I don't want any kind of weird sympathy or any of that kind of stuff. I just had stuff to do So now I thought it's actually really cool that You know, I've seen an improvement Introducing Rich Valdez America at night the Podcast. Welcome to the conversation, Familia. A perfect blend of news and entertainment, interviews and insights. It's really just an expose on how messed up things are.

America's nighttime town hall whenever you want. It's a huge problem that deserves a lot more attention. Rich Valdez, America at Night. Follow the podcast, wherever you listen. BEEP. The number one thing coming out the other side of the whole experience is it definitely in bone strength and reconnected me with God and in my faith. But and exponentially more so with Melissa.

Our relationship is pretty darn strong and has been since the beginning. We're not without periods where we bumped heads. We had two periods where we could have easily broken up. Luckily we're both really hard hardhead and didn't. But yeah, that was that was what I got out of I began. The five, right? And you know, so like I said, for the folks who are listening, it is the venom. It's a venom, potentially lethal venom from the Sonoran Toad Frog. And it's like, okay, so wait a minute.

We're gonna take this venom, and we're gonna put it in a pipe. We're gonna air a solid and breathe it directly in our locks. Yeah? All right, cool. You're fine. Right on.

Sounds great. I just thought it was hilarious. You know, like, okay, cool. Right on. So we had a beautiful day down there. Like, I'd never been to Tijuana before. And my head to you wanted is like, you know, Tijuana, whatever one thinks of it,

Tijuana, like, dockies and stuff. You're right, I don't know, I've never been there. I've only heard crazy stuff. Well, it's a gated community. It's totally, I felt completely safe there, right? Guards and all that. And it's overlooking the Pacific Ocean. You're seeing what is that,

Catalina Island, right? As you can see there. But I saw something I had never seen before that afternoon, a fog bank at two or three in the afternoon. We don't have that on these coast. There's no fog in the middle of the day, apparently in Southern California in that area, fog can roll in at any time on the Pacific Ocean.

I didn't know, so but to me, it's amazing. I've never seen it before. And you're Ocean. I didn't know, but to me, it's amazing. I've never seen it before. And you're, what, I don't know, five, six hundred, maybe a thousand feet above the ocean, and this fog, you can't see the ocean. And dude, I remember I could feel the mist on my skin. And I didn't wanna go inside. I just wanna sit outside.

And it felt amazing. I could feel like every single drop of mist on my head. It was amazing. So we all decided since it was just so beautiful out and that mist was awesome. Like, hey, we'd like to do it outside. They're like, well, yeah, absolutely. So we set up a little bed, like it's pillows,

right out in the grass. And Trevor says, hey, who wants to go first? The other seal, not the one that I was connected to you. He was like, cause I was like, I'll go, I don't care. First last done matter to me. He goes, honestly guys, do you mind if I go? Cause if I don't go ahead and go, I might punk out. I don't know, he just didn't have a great,

I began to trip. I know, absolutely. And they had told us that, you know, on five, you can have all kinds of experiences that most people see very happy things. From the circus, you know, just happy things, good visions. Most people have that. It's like, and then other people have,

more nightmares looking things. And that's typically rare and this and that. I'm like, okay, whatever. Well, that gentleman goes outside and it went along, I could hear him laughing. I never heard someone laugh like this before. It was like, kind of like a child laughing when they're so overwhelmed with something funny

that they're just, but an adult male. Like a belly laugh, dude, it was insane. And I was like, hell yeah, I couldn't help it. Got to peek through the blinds, you know, because they had asked us not to, but I couldn't help it. I mean, he's out there rolling around in the grass just having a blast, right? Just, he's having a wonderful experience.

He comes in, you know, as he walks to go to his bedroom, you know, and he's just kind of smiling, you know, he's happy, like whatever he saw, I'm like, wow. And they're like, all right, who's next? All right, I'll go. And I say, got there and Trevor briefs you up again, he's like, Hey, you know, I'm going to warm this up. You're going to inhale, you know, try to draw it out. 30 second in hell.

And he's like telling me how I'm like, Trevor, I'm out of hell, bro. It's been a while, but. He's like, okay, yeah, and then, you know, you'll just simply, once you've had as much as you can, you know, exhale, he's like, I'm gonna start counting back from 10 and you got like the sleeping masks and he's like, you just put that down, lay back.

He's like, by the time your head hits that pillow, if you aren't experiencing it, then you didn't get medicine. So don't just lay there and just go, well, I'm like, oh, okay, cool. And in the exact same voice that he asked me, are you sure about I began? He goes, are you ready?

And it's kind of smiling because, yeah, you're ready. I mean, just, I mean, cause yeah, you're ready. I mean, just, there's something about it, dude, man. Like, you know, I don't know what it is, man. What a cool mouthful, man. So yeah, I start pulling on it and, man, everything turned silver. And again, I wish I could, that's the closest thing I have to describing it. I could see the serrations on the grass at my feet and everything's silver. He's silver.

But again, it's like the light is different. I wish I could explain it to people. I wish I had words anyway. So as I lay back I put that mask on everything it's just this crazy silverish color and then all of a sudden, boom. It's hard to describe it, but it's as if that that I'm describing pushed itself off me and everything turned black. if that that I'm describing pushed itself off me

and everything turned black. I could hear the wind, right? It was just this peaceful, this calmness. Yeah, I felt this weird, this little twinge of panic to all those guys out there who's, you know, right about the time you go to walk off that tailgate and you're, damn, this is dumb. Why do we do this? That where you should know you should be afraid

or you know you should feel uneasy, but then you just shut it down and walk off the tailgate anyway. You know. I kinda had that feeling like it wasn't panic. It was just a slight two seconds of uneasiness Like whoa, what is this? And I heard Trevor say just breathe

The medicine said basically like don't listen to him tone of voice just die And nothing nothingness just nothingness and I don't know how for how long it seemed like seconds, but you know, I was Under the influence of it for 20 minutes or so Nothingness for that long. Well for for me, it seemed like seconds, but apparently, very in, I'm under for 27 minutes, I had a long, long, longer ride on it than some people, because it can last eight minutes, two minutes, 22 minutes. So it was a little bit longer ride. And so when I came to, I'm looking at Trevor and everyone's, I

wouldn't say panic, but they have a very concerned look on their face. I apparently held my breath, I guess you could say, for longer than I probably should have, but I wouldn't purposely hold my breath, bro. And all I can say is that nothingness, the thing that I saw after the nothingness, after it kind of got put together, was the other side. It showed me the other side. It showed me the other side. When I was on I began I could see it and then five showed it to me. Hold on. So you filled nothingness

and then you experienced the other side. So what was the other side? Peace. Peace. Calm. Calm. Quiet. Quiet in here. Quiet. Safety. Peace. True. Peace. Like the kindness described in the Bible. But no visuals. Nothing. I sat up and I never felt more amazing.

And like I said, they were looking at me a little concerned. I'm like, what? And I'm like, I just died. It turned out to be a win. Yeah. Yeah, man. You did. You gave me this big hug.

All of them just piled on top of me. It's this big, you did. Give me this big hug. All of them just piled on top of me. It's this big, big hug and I had never felt so much love in my life. I mean, these are for the most part, strangers. I've known them for a couple of days. I never felt more safe and more loved in my life, except for, you know, my mom was alive. Yeah, man.

Yeah. Fucking amazing. And the cool thing is, man, like, you know, people on social media, when I first came on social media, I was pretty aggressive. But because Instagram had one minute, I would put my little videos out, and if somebody said something,

I talked to them, I talked to the boys in the team, I didn't know how to talk to regular people. You know? So I got a little bit of a reputation for being kind of an asshole. And I didn't mean to be. And I'm like, that's so weird because when people meet me, my friends will tell you, there's nothing I have that I won't give you. Like, I, nothing.

Right? Like, you're like, hey, man, I'm going, I got this cool thing, man, I'm going I got this cool thing man. I'm going out counting. You know, you got like one of the student rifles I can borrow. No, dude, I'm going to give you my rifle. You know, I'm going to give you my $8,000 custom 300 PRC. All right, that's what I'm giving you because that I care about my friends. It's not about things. I care about people I love not about things. So it's kind of funny man that people will say that I think I'm an asshole. Now, if you're addicted to me, oh, it's, it's fun.

I don't care, you know, I'm not necessarily a violent person, but I'm pretty comfortable with it. And I don't mind fist fighting and stuff. And so I've been, I've said things like that to people on the internet where I'm like, hey, you're the internet, tough guy, man. How about come say that shit to my face, you know? I grew up in the military where some OG woodline, you know, we could sort it out.

What happened in the team room? I mean, like I said, man, there's a reason why my nose is crooked, my warrant broke, my nose, because I was talking shit. First lesson I ever learned, especially forces, was shut your mouth. So, leaving there, right, like, it just made me realize, even more that, I got nothing to prove to anyone.

I enjoy interacting with people and helping people. I walked away from that with this calmness, this peace, but just as much of this clarity. It's even funny because people would even say, okay, so now what are you like some kind of fucking hippie now? Are you like tree hugging hippie? I'm like, no. Like, I feel like I'm probably more efficient, more capable than ever before,

because of this clarity. I have nothing confusing or clouding my thoughts. So whether it be violent work or I don't know, freaking framing my house, things are clear for me. I have been able to prioritize even better what's truly important in my life. And it really just blows down to one thing, better name some Melissa. We know you're wrong, still going to look out for my buddies, but it's just like, if I have to give you some type of flow chart on, you know, my priorities in life, you know, it's her.

And she's always been right up there, like since we've been together. But now it's, it's more clear. Very clear, very clear. And it's awesome. That's amazing. It is, man. Do you remember messaging me after, right after that?

I mean, we weren't even, no, I just knew that you went. Yeah, I was like, we weren't even, well, we don't talk. You know, I didn't, I don't think I even had your number at that point. And I was just, it just made me so happy, man, because I could tell you we were a little brensive.

I was on social. And, you know, no judgment. I just, you know, and to see like that kind of message come privately, I was like, shit man, there it is again. Yeah, I know, just watch him when it's done for dudes. I think I've got six guys that I vouched for with Vets that have gone. I've got one buddy who's, he's afraid of it. You know, like, you know, I'm like, bro, it's not acid.

Not that people think that, you know, bad LSD trips, like, you'd never come out of it. But that's, that's propaganda. That's bullshit that never happened with LSD. I'm maybe if somebody was making their basement or something like that, maybe some people had some bad trips or whatever, but that's just what LSD does. Even though I've not done LSD, I just have read about it since and how it was being applied as a medicine before they banned all the psychedelics in the 60s or whatever, and scheduled them with heroin and cocaine. Yeah.

Of course, we can get in there, whether or not Big Farmer has anything to do with that sort of stuff. Oh, I'm sure they got their hands in that. You know, I just want to say real quick, that, you know, a lot of people watching these shows, they get a lot out of it and believe it or not, I think the majority of people that watch them are civilians. And they are trying to overcome their own trauma and we'll always get these questions on, you know, how can I do that? And I want to tell everybody that this isn't just a military thing. It's not John Dreder.

It's John Dreder. Trevor, the exact same person that treated me and that treated you as a civilian program, too, and now I'm going to link that. His link will be in the description. He was treated civilians way before he. Yeah, he started. He started pulling, pulling addicts off the street

and treating them in hotel rooms. Yeah. And then it's developed into what it is today. So, this is forever. I don't know. I began, it's like 98% effective at curing opioid addiction. Yeah.

I mean, we have a plague of it, a true pandemic, epidemic, if you will, of heroin and everything, that's these opiates and stuff. And there's a potential cure for it. Yeah. Right. I think 71,000 people OD last year, if I'm correct. That fentanyl stuff is horrible, bro.

I mean, that stuff's so powerful that, you know, you got cops ODing from touching it. Yeah. It's being used as a weapon. Oh, there's no doubt. It's not a coincidence that it's being produced in China and shipped through and over our southern border. There's no doubt in my mind it is a weapon. I mean, we've gone over going to war for a lot less. Yeah.

I don't know. I mean, we've gone to work for a lot less. Yeah. I don't know. Well, man, you look great. I feel great. You look like a different person. I still lug around some injuries. I'm getting a little older. My workouts are, you guys still hit the gym? Very regularly.

I'm not trying to kill myself anymore. I'm trying to maintain. I wanna be able to hunt, I wanna be able to play with my dogs, keep up with Melissa, which I barely already do anyway, for the next 20 years, or 30 years, or whatever I have left, or 30 days, I don't care. And I just, I want her to be happy. I think for the longest time, man,

if you asked me how I was doing, I would have used the word content. I knew I was happy, but I also didn't know what that word meant, either. I know what happy feels like now. Good. And I don't want to ever let it go. Right? Like, I feel like,

do you, the only thing you're going to get a more reaction out of me, then somehow threatening Melissa, would be threatened this happiness, which those two things are very intertwined. Yeah, very intertwined. Yeah, man. And you know, it's like after the running for Congress, I felt gross. Really? Oh, God, gross.

Like I need of shower. You know. Um, do you want to go into running for Congress? For sure. Let's take a break. Let's take a break. We'll come back and talk about that. Cool.

Yeah, that's stuff I think people will find really interesting. I'm interested. Thank you for listening to the Sean Ryan Show. I'm interested. Thank you for listening to the Sean Ryan Show. If you haven't already, please take a minute, head over to iTunes and leave the Sean Ryan Show review. We read every review that comes through and we really appreciate the support. Thank you. Let's get back to the show. Thank you. Let's get back to the show. All right, Tony. We're back from the break. I think this is probably gonna be our last segment, but You ran for Congress Yeah, I mean in a

How good is it? I you know, I got the peaked behind the curtain. See how fundraising's done, see how the whole industry works. That's what it is. Well, I think we all know the countries and we're in some deep shit. And so what was it that nobody like us wants to fucking run for Congress? It's crossed my mind, you're saying more and more. Nobody wants that job, but we know it needs to be done,

and we're duty-driven type people. Yeah. And we also love what our country was intended to be. What it was initially, the dream. We all believe it. Like in our souls, right? what it was initially the dream. We all believe it. Like in our souls, right? The problem is politics, right,

is not our government. Politics is something different. Politics is what we have now, you know, Republicans and Democrats. Two wings on the same bird, man. And I'll tell you, man, you're going to talk about just vicious Republicans, man, corrupt, full of shit, liars all the way to the local level, like your local GOP. Before we get into that, sorry, was there like a last straw that made you want to run?

So, you know, I mentioned a name, Alaria, Pantana Alaria was the lieutenant in the Marine Corps in Fallujah that was charged with murder He was one of the first of the GWAP To have that kind of bullshit happen to him He he lost a couple dudes back casualties today before, you know, puttune later. And so, there's search in a vehicle, military age males with RPGs, AKs in the trunk.

And, you know, of course, different stories, whatever, I don't even care, but bottom line is he burned them down And change mags doing so out of traffic stop, you know, no P or vehicle checkpoint I guess PCP and Then him and his boys took him to the clear nearest traffic circle and hung a sign around their neck that said warlords no better friend, no worse enemy. That's their battalion motto. They're the

warlords, whichever marine battalion they were. And he was basically like, hey Sam, like hey stop, you don't fuck with us, you know, It's war, bro. But the folks over at the Navy, lawyers, the Jags, the NCIS or whatever they are, they charged them. They went so far to exume the bodies, et cetera, et cetera. Crazy. So he ran in 2010. And so I was there for it. I didn't participate.

I knew him. I like to met him and we were friends. He decided to do this. I wasn't a time of my life where I was interested in it. I was interested in deploying. So I watched kind of a far, you know, I went to a couple of his events and there was a time in there where he and his wife got some death threats. So I like accompanying his wife to things that like he was getting there separate of her

stuff like that, you know. So I watched it, it was interesting. And I was like, yeah, man, change the world. Good luck, buddy. I didn't care. I was so aolitical back then. And then yeah, man, as the world got weird, as the world was getting weird, I was like, man,

you know, everybody always focuses on the president. The president isn't the body. It's not the part of our government that we need to be focused on. It's sad and pathetic that 98% of Americans cannot tell you the name of their Congress person. And I will not call them representatives. That's what they're supposed to be.

Yeah, but they're not. That's why I make it very clear distinction when I talk about them. I'm like, you're so-called representative or I'll call them a congressman because they're very few of them actually represent their people very well. The job of a congressperson, the representative, is to represent the people of their district and go to DC and advocate for them. It's not what they do, right? They're making laws. They call

themselves lawmakers. How many more laws do we fucking need? I mean, do we really're making laws they call themselves lawmakers how many more laws do we fucking need I mean do we really need more laws let's how about let's get through to some of the ones let's get some of the old ones off the books before you're making new ones well Easter Easter two years ago a Lario moved from look I line up to New York and I hadn't talked to him in a while. I started kicking it around. I'm like, you know what, I'm in a time in my life where you know what? Man, it would be, I mean, if I could get, I could get elected as a congressperson, a representative. I'm like, you know, might be able to make a difference.

And I'm not necessarily an ideological type person He came by the house he was down from New York Crit on Easter day and I was out at the range he came back dropped to tell gate. We were just sitting on the tailgate catching up And I went hey man What do you think about, and duty, sits up, hops off the tailgate, he goes, if there was ever a time, now's it, I went. Easy buddy, I haven't even talked to you, he goes,

yes, you should run. He knew, he just knew. And I guess he knew because, you know, he had been in that exact same spot before he goes you know, it's a You know off seasonal action In a week incumbent rhinos or week their vulnerable Cedar et cetera well at the time

There was the district they had stood up this new district in North Carolina and I lived in it And I was like I want to run a district, I live in. I don't want to look at people and be like, hey, I know I live way over there, but I want to represent you. Yeah. Right. Like, remember when Hillary became a New York citizen, a resident of New York, not citizen, so she could run for a senate there?

I met you from Arkansas. Yeah. But New Yorkers were like, woo! She's saying from your state, weirdos. So all that put together was like, there wasn't this new district, there was no incumbent. There's going to be a new district. Pretty rural. And it also included Cumberland County as in Fort Bragg.

I was like, okay. So it initially started out and I said, okay, I announced. I said, I'm gonna do it. Melissa and I posted up a video. Alario put me in contact with some of the people who helped him. I remember seeing that video. Yeah, the consultant.

That was all fired up about it, man. That was like, yes. I watched that video every day, whenever you know it pops up in memories or feeds or whatever. I'm like, wow. I'll put it up right now. Put it up. Hello, I'm Tony Cowden,

and I'm running for US House of Representatives. Right here in Eastern Old Carolina is third congressional district. I spent 25 years of my life in the special operations community. It's in that community we have a very simple leadership principle and that is the leader will be the example and must exceed all standards. I would like to carry that same type of commitment and leadership on the Capitol Hill. And so this is me pledging to you,

my friends, families and neighbors right here in Eastern North Carolina, that I will return $50,000 of my congressional salary each year back to Eastern North Carolina. I will return it to charitable organizations that benefit Eastern North Carolina's children, veterans and law enforcement first responders. This is what leadership looks like and you now have

an option when you go to the polls on May 17th. Vote for me Tony Cowden and you will get the change that we so desperately need. I think you can just tell man in that video I was fed up. I was fed up with the government not doing the right thing. They're just not doing the right thing. I don't understand it. I don't understand how hard it is to do the fucking right thing. I don't get money and greed over the country. Your traders, they're traders.

So yeah, we announce and North Carolina gets in and is freaking thing with the courts and the liberals don't like the new districts. I mean, the Republicans since Jerry Manderdum, you know, the Republicans always fussing about Democrats, Jerry Mandering. Republicans do it too. They did it. Set me up for success.

I was like, cool, yeah. I was like, all right, I'm running this district. It's going to be awesome. I started getting lots of support earlier. And now we raise like 200,000. I think we raised $100,000 in like the first week. And people were like, ooh, I mean, people were looking. I was on radars.

I was getting calls from staff members, from representatives around the country, especially like staff members who knew how I was and maybe liked it, I put shooting videos up and stuff like that. I mean, kind of backhanded support, because here's the do. And this is just how spineless and pathetic incumbents are.

They will not support anyone in a primary election. So in my primary election, there was no incumbent. So I started getting support from primary election, there was no incumbent. So I started getting support from elected and sitting representatives, so-called representatives. I mean, it was looking good. Start getting some promises on some bigger money, but it's a pretty cheap market, you know, as far as TV, radio, that kind of stuff. You know. The counties are all ruled, no major city, except for Fayetteville in the district. And then North Carolina flipped it.

And the courts, the Democrats, dropped some new lines, the courts denied them, but the courts are all liberal Democrats, that's changed in that last election. And basically the courts, so in a North Carolina Constitution, it clearly says the General Assembly will make the districts.

The courts took it upon themselves and read you the districts and said, told the, our General Assembly, our House and Senate, no Carolina House and Senate to fuck off. Our Republican House Incident leaders mean the Spineless people they are. They filed a lawsuit with the Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court basically said, yeah, some constitutional, but you'll have an election coming up, so it's too late. What? So you mean to tell me as we speak right now every them, they're all illegally unconstitutional elected as we speak. And check it out. So North Carolina, the General Assembly, the Senate, and now the Supreme Court of North Carolina are all held by Republicans. You think they fixed it?

No. Nobody even made that tip. It's like it never happened. So when that district changed, my new district puts me in the district there, where the county that I grew up in is now in my district. And I'm like, that's awesome. Camp LeJune, cherry point, big Coast Guard station up in Elizabeth City, but it's a huge district man. Fourteen counties, six hours from my house because I'm on the Southwestern Inn all the way past and up to

Moyak, right? All the way to Virginia line up the outer banks, huge districts, six and a half hours from my house to the other side. And I got a campaign there. And I don't have the friends in the local media that the incumbent has paid for. I mean, that's face it, if you own a local, the local TV station, everyone listens to, and you're the congressman, and you give that dude, you know, five, six

grand a week or a month or whatever it was, um, that dudes now, your friend. And so like, specifically the Henry Hittinshow, when I said, Hey, I'm challenging doctor, Greg Murphy and Dr. Greg Murphy will tell you, I'm a doctor first representative second. What? I mean, literally says it in speeches and stuff. It's the same dude who was giving the jab a Republican

and telling pregnant mothers they should get the fucking jab. This is a Republican. And using his, he's a urologist dude, and he's telling people to get a vaccine. A urologist. But people don't know any better. He's just a doctor, which is good enough because people listen to their doctors no matter what shit they tell them to put pumping their bodies.

So I say, okay, I look at Greg's history. His vote in history, he's got like a 70% rating by different conservative groups and stuff like that. He's a Rhino. He will vote with the Dems in a second. He's not a gun guy, he's not a 2A guy. So I announce that I'm running against him. So I'll back up a little bit.

I went and hung out with JTN and all the guys from Bite Rifle, was on their podcast, they're in Texas. They helped introduce me to Dan Crenshaw. Initially Dan was all about supporting me. Said, yep, I'm gonna come out there, we'll do fun, right? Just like Dan's, people, as folks, come out there, we'll do funrages like Dan's, people, as folks, they're all, they've got big time, funrasing capabilities.

And yeah, man. So I was like, yeah, this is all I can good. And then it switched. And now I have to tell people that I'm getting any challenging incumbent. So my consultant that Elaria had linked me up with, he's like, oh, I don't know, man. I don't know him and Han. He's like, basically, challenging an incumbent is a big deal. It is a career-ender in that industry, especially if it's an incumbent who gets on his knees for Kevin McCarthy. If you are low to Kevin McCarthy, you have the backing of the Republican establishment. And that was before Kevin was even speaker.

He was minority leader, but that kind of power, they will not defy him. Right? When they were trying to elect him, everyone came but one last January, right? Eli Crane. He said, I promised my constituents, I will not vote for Kevin McCarthy for, you know, houselier, and he didn't, and he was the only one. So anyway, dude, Kevin McCarthy is one of the most powerful people in this government, just like Pelosi. And all we did by switching was take Pelosi out and put Kevin in. They're the same people. They're both from California. I was like, dude, I've had enough California in my Carolina. I don't need another speaker, the house from California. But there was no one else that would really

step up and try to take that power because no one wants to challenge Kevin. And apparently he's pretty vindictive. Like he will take your seats on your committees. Eli made the joke. He's like, yeah, my committee assignment is probably going to be in the genitorial closet. But we just talked about that. So we just interviewed him two days ago. We just talked about this exact same thing. I text him throughout that hard thing. I was like, brother, I am so proud of you. Thank you so much.

You know? So, like I said, I announced I'm in a challenge just, uh, Goober, Greg Murphy. I have nothing nice to say about that, man. He will have an adversary in me for the rest of his life because he went personal He could he wouldn't debate me Right this guy's a doctor. He said things like people don't didn't elect me He's like people elect me for my brain because I'm smarter than them. He says shit like that. These are the people we're electing so These are the people we're electing. So it takes Danny, and he's like, hey man, you got a minute?

It's like, yeah. I'm like, hey, so check it out. Things have changed. It puts me in a different district. I'm going to be running against Republican incumbent, Greg Murphy. He said, who? I was like, you work with him. I mean, like they don't even know each other, right? You would think the Republican representatives in Congress would all know each other And I know and I was like um he's a doctor kind of short

slimshoters balding Nothing I don't know how it's describing bro and I don't know if he googled him or what hit but he went oh yeah, oh god. Yeah, geez. Yeah But damn man, well, this sucks. I'm like, oh, yeah, how so? And I knew what he was gonna say. I can't help you now. I can't help you run against an incumbent,

not a Republican. It's going against the establishment. I can't, he didn't say that part, but it's going against the establishment, it's going against Kevin McCarthy. Wouldn't do it. They won't do it. Madison called for one, same way. So Madison, I think Madison's heart, you know who Madison is, Wilcher.

Yeah, I know. I know Madison's heart is in the right place. What is you on? Who's a young man? It is. What's that? He spent a lot of time on social media. He has a lot of time on social media. He's 25, 26 years old, you know, maybe a little older now, but that's what they do. So maybe there's more important things. Right. Like I said, I've talked to Madison a few times. I do feel like his heart is in the right place.

Like he wants America to be right. Like I don't think he, is he like everybody else in his generation with social media? They won't follow his clicks and likes. Yeah. But I still think he also wants the nation to do well. And I'll tell you, Dan even said, he was like, because I mentioned I was like,

hey man, well, you know, Madison said, you know, he's supportive. He really does not like Greg Murphy. And he said he would help me. And Dan's like, you know what, fuck that kid. He's like, I've tried to help that kid. He won't listen to everybody. Whoever he supports, we're gonna go against.

He's like, we'll do everything we can to out primary him. And then they went against Madison. He crossed them, you know, because he came out and said that he had been invited to like parties or seen cocaine use or something like that, right? He said that out loud. And then he retracted his statement and then he did not get elected. The Republican Party stood up on it up against him and ran him into the dirt and ousted him from Congress. Damn. Yeah, man. They're vicious because they're holding on to power, right? People don't give up power, right? People don't give up power.

And that's what they have, and riches. I mean, it's $174,000 a year job. How in five years these guys go in there worth a hundred grand, come out worth, you know, six mil, ten mil. And after 20 years there's worth a 60 mil or more. How is it possible? Well, I'll tell you why, it's possible, or 60 mill or more. How is it possible? Well, I'll tell you why. It's possible or how it's possible. It's because we don't do anything.

I mean, American people have sat back and let them fuckers do whatever they want on Capitol Hill, whatever they want unchecked. The average person cannot tell you the name of their senator and there's only two per state as opposed to the anywhere from whatever five to. I don't know how many California has a bunch of representatives. Do you want another senator's name, bro? You know.

Some Americans don't know. The vice president of the United States. Like we're so uninformed and so lazy. Right. We're spoiled. Well, in all fairness, Tony, we don't see much of her. Yeah, her case. But how about who was Trump's vice president? People don't know.

Yeah. So, and how that, that is the fix. Everybody asked me, what do you think is the fix? How do we fix this? I'm like, well, we have to rally. I'm like, there's a clear, easy model on how to take this country in a direction you want. And it's proven to work.

And people are like, what? I'm like, the Democrat since 1960, bro, what they've done is the perfect model for subverting a culture and a government. Perfect. They did an awesome job, right? And they continue to do an awesome job, right? Transgender people make up potentially less than

one percent of the population and look how powerful they become. How is it possible? Because the Democrats know subversion. And I think it's probably because a lot of liberals are, let's face it, they're spineless beta types and spineless beta types. Don't know or understand or appreciate any type of confrontation. So they're sinister.

They're sneaky. And that's politics, bro. I asked my other day, I said, name one representative on Capitol Hill that you would be afraid to fist fight. And she said, I can't think of one. I was talking to a girl, not one of us, like name one representative or senator on Capitol Hill, you're scared to fist fight. And they were like, this is a woman. And she's not a fighter. She's just a friend of ours. She's like, you know, they're not very scary people. They're spineless.

Yeah, they're amoebas. So, yeah, man, that was when I kind of, I already had not the most awesome feeling about Dan, but I was still kind of like rooting for him. And I was like, wow, you're just like the rest of them, they're just spineless. So all the way down to like the local GOP, the smaller counties not so much, they were pretty legit. Those are people who believe about you're talking about a GOP meeting once a month that has nine people show up. You go to Ensel County

where Camp Sous-June is or Craven County or Newburn, North Carolina is those are the two biggest poplisten centers in this district. And the county commissioners, the police chiefs or sheriffs, not chiefs, because they're all, they treat the congressman like he's a celebrity. They just want his phone number. I've heard people say, yeah, well, I've got his personal cell number. And I'm like, I give my personal cell number out

of everything I speak at and I'll not change it if I'm elected. Because I work for you and you should have my personal fucking cell phone number. It shouldn't just be you to buy big campaign donors. I got to the point where I said, I tell you what. I told people I was like, how about this? Congressional salary is $174,000 a year. I hear by pledge and swear to get 50,000 of it back each year to veterans charities

in this district. People were like, what? But I couldn't get the local news media to say my name, much less put that kind of shit out. Damn. He had them bought and paid for. I mean, you know, we spent in the last four weeks because we didn't have much time. And once they made that switch, I was now in this new district for only about seven weeks. Seven weeks, man, campaigns are usually a year and a half long. Seven weeks. So I had seven weeks to visit, you know, 14 counties and try to get my name out.

So dude, I knew I was going to lose. I knew there was zero chance of beating Greg Murphy. So I just focused on his record and stayed the course. You did the right thing, went around and shook a bunch of babies, kissed some hands, something like that. Anyway. And then we went to this event, dude, in Craven County, North Carolina. And it was the Reagan Lincoln dinner. And if folks don't

know out there, Google Lincoln and the writ of habeas corpus. And look at all the people that when he suspended the writ of habeas corpus due process and sort of locking up senators and other political rivals. Abraham Lincoln is probably one of the worst presidents of the United States history and it's a lie that Abe, oh, honest Abe, honest Abe was this close to being Caesar. Sidebar. So we're at this Abraham Lincoln Reagan dinner because Lord knows Republicans love those two dudes and i don't get it there were two of the most liberal republicans ever

whatever uh... after the dinner i went up to the representative the congressman and was going to shake his hand and just kind of waiting he kept kind of lonely off but. But I was like, this dude's going to shake my hand. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, I have some courtesy

here, dude. I'm challenging you. I'm just challenging you. It's not personal. It's like, I think I can do a better job than you. But if he loses, man, he loses a lot, right? Well, his regional, his, his director, his district director, woman named Lindy Robinson, I knew her from before I was going to run. And she speaks to me, we were cordial, I thought she speaks to me and I'm like, landing. And what's up with man, all the negativity? I mean, you guys are bashing me hard. Like really, man, I thought we'd play a little nice in this. And she was like, no, Tony, that's not us. What it was is this gentleman named Wayne King, who was actually associated with my consultant. Wayne King is a political consultant. He'd actually been pretty pretty high at North Carolina GOP Maybe I can't remember exactly what

So Wayne King had gone to Pamela County Sheriff's Department and asked him for my mug shot from when I got arrested as a kid and So one of the the chief deputy there that I grew up with calls me is like, hey, man, somebody was just in here. I'm like, oh, yeah, what was his name? He's like, ah, last thing King, maybe I was like, Wayne King. He's like, yep, that was him right on. Not a problem.

My record's my record, man. I was like, y'all have a mug shot because I don't remember. He's like, no, we didn't, we didn't book you like that at one that kind of a charge. So, now, I was like, thanks bro, I appreciate it. So I emailed one, I was like, hey bro, if there's anything like that, you want, I'll give it to you, happily. So I went and posted my entire record

on our Facebook page. I've got a lot of speed and tickets, bro. I've been in a hurry a lot of my life. And typically when I speed, I just don't give the patrolman much options. Either I'm doing five over, or I'm doing 15 plus over. You know what I mean?

When I speed, I'm in a hurry. So I easily, I get a ticket and over 20 years I've rocked up one or two a year. So there's that. So my record looks bad just because of the speed and tickets. But I have the cocaine possession charge and then I have an assault on the female I have an assault on the female. To which my ex-wife testified it didn't happen. Basically, we got an argument, we were in the middle of the divorce. She had had a few, frankly, had a date

that I was trying to get to. And she wanted to hang out. And I was like, I gotta go. She gets pissed. She kicked my car and rolled her ankle and scuffed her knee. I was in the car, I was leaving, whatever. And, hey, she was almost six foot tall wearing heels. You know, she rode her ankle on an ankle driveway.

Excuse me. So what they didn't tell people was the officer came because the neighbors called the cops. The neighbors called the law. And so not knowing what happened, the officer charged us both. Only mine was a soul, the female. One of the female, hers was a soul. We hired the same attorney. The attorney went. It was all saw. We hired the same attorney. The attorney went, it was all dismissed.

All right, the officer apologized. It's all right, man. You know, I had to charge you both with something. Oh, did you? Okay, whatever. So anyway, that happened in go six. You know, so I'm 15 years later, they put that shit out there. So I posted all on social media, put it out there. And then they tried to attack my service. Really? Yeah. So the gardens of the Greenberry A came in.

There was this chick, what was her name? So she's like a financial advisor and there's rules. I mean, financial advisor advisors can't donate, they can't certain amount or this and that. They're not really supposed to work for the campaigns, so she was a volunteer. I'll check if you remember that with that woman's name, I would say it.

I would be happy to say her name. She's a big girl, just a miserable looking human being. Former Army check in office, and she was claiming Big girl, just a miserable looking human being. Former army check an officer, and she was claiming to be a combat veteran, but slamming on me. So of course, we checked her out. She was a finance officer, dude. Not it.

She served in the time before women were allowed in combat, but because she went to Afghanistan, she was saying she was a combat vet. So basically, people other than me just crushed her. But she and some other people, they started like women against Tony Cowden. Tony Cowden is a woman beater, bobble-baw. And I'm like, I have two top secret clearances. I take polygraphs, right?

And last time I checked, it's not guilty until proven otherwise. And I went to court and was proven not guilty, found not guilty. That shit's in the past, right? But they kept trying to perpetuate it or whatever. It's all he had. OK.

So back to that event. I'm talking to Lindy and it's a cordial conversation and a congressman standing here she and I are face to face and he's still back to me man. Like every time I was like wanting to introduce myself and you know, hey man the mess man win right. Simple stuff. No different than if we're gonna square off in you know in a wrestling match or boxing match, you shake each other's hands, right? Give each other a little bit of respect. No, dude, he went about that.

He talks about whole, you know, military, there's military that. Well, this same slimy, spineless bastard. As soon as he had the opportunity, right, he's got 400, wait, screw that back up. He's got Camp Lejeune, cherry point, and the Coast Guard stations, right, a lot of military and veterans in his district, huge. So he was on the military, was it military affairs or the veterans affairs one of those two

He was on that committee and the second-hand opportunity he left and went to the ways and means committee And you want it cost to get on the ways it means committee? No, so here's another little thing people don't understand about committees if you look at Greg Murphy's If you look at Greg Murphy's, um, filings, right, is FEC campaign violence, there are max contributions to every single person who sits on that committee. So campaign finance is a commodity, a trade way. There's lots of things you can't spend it on, right? Like I couldn't, couldn't buy you a Rolex as a gift for it saying thank you, right?

But if you were running for Congress, I could give you $50, $100. If you're a committee member, then I want to be on your committee. I can give you and everyone on that committee, $50, $800. American public doesn't understand this. And if they would get off American public doesn't understand this. And if they would get off TikTok or Twitter and look up like the FEC site or better yet, secrets.org, or is it public secret. ads or open secret dot or in you type in a name like if you typed in Visual and silly and you ever donated to anything political it will show up Really every single sent in and out of my campaign account is completely documented I mean there's rules

But the American people won't bother to look at it to see that these folks are actually paying with this money and moving it around in pretty unethical ways, right? And, you know, who is on the ethics committee? Members of the House, bro, it's like having the foxes, you know, audit the foxes. So they've got everything. They just have everything locked down. Absolutely locked out. But it's available to the American public if they would just go look open secrets dot org, open secret, I'm fairly certain that's it. I don't want to put wrong information out because when people hear this, they're probably going to want to look it up and look up their

Representative and senators every cent dude. I'm gonna. I didn't know that And it's also on the The FEC website but open secrets breaks it down and it's way more than just campaign contribution open secret I think that's it contribution, opensecret.org. Opensecret.org. So, like the first thing that pops up, national rifle associations profile summary in opensecret.com. So, for our two A folks out there who would like to know more about how the NRAs, money works and where their money is going, that's the first thing that pops up in my Google search.

And they break it down so that you can understand it Simple interesting. It's a quick and easy search. If you try the FEC or go into congressional website Did did you get out before then the DTS travel computer system? I got out in 2006 Yeah, okay, so you missed it. It was about when we were still hand jamming. It's worse than that website. So, are you military guys out there who know how horrible

the DTS system is? FEC and the congressional websites are harder to navigate than that. And it is absolutely intentional. No doubt my man is intentional. I mean, they're Congress. They could have the baddest website if they owned the planet if they wanted to, because I don't know, they got trillions of dollars. And they, they're Congress. They could have the baddest website if they own the planet if they wanted to because I

don't know. They got trillions of dollars. And they said they got this horrible website that the search doesn't work. It's also just complex the way they do business because like a bill could have 92 different amendments to it. So to continue on back to the event that we're at, and this will give you an idea of the kind of just dirt bag Greg Murphy is.

He turns around, grabs Lundy, and looks at me and says, he goes, we don't have to listen to this. Very can, and starts to move away, and And he can, and like starts to move away. And I was like, I was just gonna introduce you. So I turn around and start talking to this guy. And I do behind him like, that's weird. Not paying attention.

Well, a Marine who I am friends with was at the event and stopped Greg to talk to him and asked him about why he wasn't supporting or helping it anyway with the Marsoct 3 case. They're your constituents. Well, this gentleman is friends with those guys, a business owner, a veteran with cancer from the burn pits. Greg basically sidestep and said, I don't have to talk to you people.

Keeps going. So the next day is the, our district's Republican GOP, I'm not forgetting that what they call it, convention, right? It's the district convention. So I'm supposed to go there and speak and all that, we're candidates and so that. But first thing in the morning, I get a phone call from the district convention. So I'm supposed to go there and speak and all that, we're candidates and so on.

But first thing in the morning, I get a phone call from the district director, district chairman. And I'm like, he says, hey, you know, in light of what happened last night, you know, it's been requested that you not allowed to come to this event. And I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like, well,

you know, I heard about what happened last night. Sir, what happened? I do not know what you're talking about. He's like, well, the threats you made to Miss Landy Robinson. What are you talking about? I'm going to need you to break it down. So Congressman Greg Murphy calls the district director and chairman and says that me and two of my thug friends, Zach Wordsy used, describe us as thugs,, Lindy Robinson, to the point in which she panically ran to her car and he escorted her so we wouldn't harm her in any way. Bro, Greg Murphy is 150 pound piece of chewed bubblegum. Him, his entire staff, and everyone at this event could not stop the three that he was talking about from us hurting anyone there. Like, let me just be that straight. Like Greg Murphy's not protecting

anyone from guys like us. The dudes sponsor, whatever. And I'm like, wait, what? There were plenty of people there that saw what happened. The sheriff was there. He was in a room when it happened. Right? And I'm like, well, if we assaulted this woman and scared her so much, why, why are they pressing charges? I try calling the sheriff of the county. Of course, he wouldn't answer his phone. Now, it's pissed. I was like, this dude just accused me of assaulting a female in the public public. What in the fuck? And I'm just shaking my head. I'm just like, what the? Dude, the phone starts ringing off the hook, ringing off the hook. Man, hey, we heard that he said this. We heard he said that some supporters called and said, hey, come on to the convention, but we are going to make damn sure because there's rumors that that same

Big girl that I referenced. I wish I could remember that young lady's name Insert replace young lady was whatever words you like There he said that they heard that they were going to try to provoke me. The girls were. And Melissa's like, oh, really? I don't mind. I got this honey, it will be cool.

You know, she's getting pissed, right? So we go. And yeah, man, we basically just isolated ourselves. Do gets up there on stage and speaks and talks about how there's a cancer in this party. And there's thugs. Well, the thugs he's describing, one of them has cancer. You know, I mean, just this condescending. And I'm like, dude, last time I mean, Jess, this condescending.

And I might do, last time I checked, I've served our nation much longer than you have in slightly more risky situations. I rate a slight, a tiny bit more respect out of you. Fucking congressman running a, I mean, it removed me personally from the situation and just look at my bio And my 201 file my ERB or whatever do I'm a fucking decorated? Special operations veteran and that's how

You think we should be treated fuck you did So now, you know, I'm like I'm pretty a pretty pissed and again, I had this point already No, I'm not gonna win. pretty pissed. And again, I had this point, I already know I'm not gonna win. So dude, I just crank it up. I changed my verbiage, I'm not playing nice anymore. Well, a good buddy of mine, a Marine who's a private investigator. When he is owned, goes down to the police department,

the town, Hablock PD, because this event was at a city building. And Greg Murphy, man, he came out, the conversation because this event was at a city building. And Greg Murphy, man, he came out, the conversation came out and said things like, I wish there were security cameras at that facility. We could show you how Tony pursued her to the car and this and that, and how scared she was, and how he saved her. Dumas didn't know there were cameras there. Oh, shit. Are you kidding me?

So they weren't inside, but they're in the foyer. And so he describes escoting her out, protecting her. She was upset all the way to her car. Please tell me you rolled the camera feed. My butt goes to have up PDs, the private investigator knows people, they happily give him the footage. And in the foyer of this city building,

Lindy Robinson comes walking out on her phone. She stops and talks to people and walks out. She's on her phone. A few minutes later, the so-called representative walks out, talking and chatting other people. Never happened. And he completely fucking lied. And more so, he called me a liar.

Can I just ask a question? I asked Eli this too, two days ago. Can't you sue them for defamation? Yeah. I could. It was probably cost more than you would ever get back. And there's not a lot of lawyers that do any type of cheap work for something they're not going to win money back on because you have to prove that what he did cost you.

Did it cost me the election? No, I could. that what he did cost you. Did it cost me the election? No, I could, any if it did, it didn't prove anything. And luckily a lot of people stood up and said it did not happen. I was there, I was there, it did not happen. But can I get that footage to roll on this episode? Yeah, okay.

And it was awesome because Greg Murphy went on a local radio show And was like about me he said that guy can't tell the truth to save his life blah blah he you know he beats women and blah blah I'm like Did I've never touched a woman I have two sisters? You know, what are you talking about? And uh, caused me a liar freaking just on and on on Mike. So I took that footage and put it right up front of the uh, forier because he describes it. He's like, yeah, he comes up to us, you for your because he describes it is like yeah he comes up to us you know and he describes the whole thing

turned around and those three guys were costing lindy and lindy was crying my do my district director i grabbed her by the shoulder i said we're not doing this and march this out you know what what am i going to make that whole episode up you guys know me i don't do that kind of not and so uh... you know it's just utterly absurd.

And yes, we actually asked for the interior video the next day so that we could prove what happened. I mean, they had to have several people at the doors to prevent these guys who were thugs from chasing Wendy and I. And then the video shows it never happened. Two very different stories. So we put it all together and launched it. Local media wouldn't touch it. When I brought it up to the local news radio guy,

so news radio guy would put him on every week, let him talk, live in the studio. Finally, a week out from the election, you let me talk for like 15 minutes and you know his questions were you know clearly questions that weren't set up to make me sound intelligent or anything like that. It was it was a disboult shit. And yeah man, I mean he spent numerous hundreds of thousands of dollars in the last few

weeks on TV ads and radio ads and stuff like that where we had like, I don't know, eight year, ninety left. It's not winnable. But people ask, you know, are you going to run again? Yeah, I had my taste of it. The only way I would consider running again, if all of a sudden there was $1.2 million in my campaign account, that's what it would take for me to beat that guy. And I would appreciate another opportunity, but it's just disgusting.

Consultant, right? When I, my consultant told me that he didn't want he couldn't continue With me challenging and then coming That's it. Okay, that's cool. So They had like my website Login and they had my Gmail G Suite email account. They had it all it took me two and a half weeks from get my access

to my email account. They held it hostage for two weeks. Who is the consulting firm? And then I hear, so what do you think I did? I withheld their last payment, five grand a month, that's what I was paying them. And then I hear through the great mind, in his name's Andy Eates. Andy Eates is telling people that I won't pay him. I stole five grand from him. So of course I sent him a text message so I was like, let me hear it one more time. You need to understand that this election is not more important than my principles.

Right? I don't care far less about winning this election than you people saying that I stole money or that I lied or that I beat a woman. You all need to understand that before the next time you open your mouths about me. I didn't hear anything else from him and I got my access and email and all that stuff. But that's the nastiness, these spineless little beta cucks.

That's the game they're playing, dude. It's disgusting. And so like that event, right? The Craving County chair of the Republican Party. Her name was Sarah Benachette Week just week she wasn't malicious necessarily. I don't think she was necessarily trying to Side with him, but she got intimidated the Republican Party is supposed to be remain neutral in primaries So I would send things to the GOP to post in both Lejeune and Craving Counties And the Republican Party is supposed to be remain neutral in primaries. So I would send things to the GOP to post in both LeJune and Kremlin counties.

They wouldn't post it. And when Sarah posted some stuff of mine, she got intimidated so much by Greg Murphy's supporters that she deleted stuff. And I was like, I just thought I was like, you know, this is just disappointing that, you know, you just can't do something simple as remaining neutral that you're so easily intimidated. Now in Lajeune, that GOP, they were directly going against me like the vice chair of Anzaluk County, had great Murphy signs in a yard, right, and they're not, right? They're supposed to be neutral.

She was on the radio talking bad about me, you know, and ultimately they forced her to resign because it was that bad. But it was rumored that the chair and herding in a long way, and he was just looking for a reason to get rid of her. He didn't do it because it was rumored that the chair and hurting the long anyway and he was just looking for a reason to get rid of her. He didn't do it because it was right. He did it because he needed to get rid of her. And you know, I'll tell you just to combat any adversarial or counter to what I'm saying. People could say, well, you lost your bitter. Not at all. It was an overwhelmingly good experience. I met some amazing people. I have new friends because of it.

I'm not better at all. In so many ways, my life is probably way better than if I had one. You know, um, um, just disgusting, dude. Republicans. At least the Democrats are honest. You check it out. North Carolina is that district, one of the main, like, kind of influential dudes

in the whole thing. Dude spent time for raping a couple of teenage girls, one of which committed suicide afterwards. He was a police officer. Used his badge and his influence to have sex with these girls. That's right. One of them later killed herself over the whole mess. And now he's like a prominent member of the Eastern Ocarlaners GOP. Are you fucking serious?

I'm like Republicans, what are you doing? How is this even, how is this man even possibly allowed to step foot in these meetings? He can't even vote. Dude's a felon. How is he an influential member of the Republican Party? Well, he did his time. Are you kidding? Some things are not, just, you don't get the right who's this go to prison.

He's a big dude. He's like six foot something for like I said, formerly soft sir. I don't know what this position he's just involved very involved in the 13th district the GOP in the Republican Party. People allow him to be an influential member. And like I said, do you even vote in elections? You're talking about. So when people say Democrats are hypocrites, am I, there ain't no difference between Republicans

and the Democrats? Don't kid yourselves. Do not kid yourselves. They're slimy. Like I said, Don't kid yourselves. Do not kid yourselves. They're slimy. Like I said, political prostitutes,

opportunists, somebody said that term stuff with me ever since, because that's what they are. It's gross, dude. You know, I don't know how we get this back. Well, so, I had a really awesome opposition research guy from our kind of intel guy from the agency from a ranger. I mean, he was just vicious. Like he went and did a background check on me in Samson County. And the lady basically logged in access to the computer and said, okay, cool, I'm gonna go get a coffee,

you know, whatever you want. She's got access to the entire criminal background systems check. So he runs a check on me, runs a check on a couple of other people who are involved in this whole mess. You know, he just wanted to see what pops up on me. But man, he was just vicious, man.

He could get in and get all kinds of information. He's a researcher. Amazing dude, amazing dude. Currently in law school, he's gonna be a vicious lawyer. So in his research, Congressman Greg Murphy had a beatch house on Imrodow, the city of Imrodow, which is one of the outer banks, Atlantic Beach, Imrodale, which is one of the outer banks.

Atlantic Beach, Imrodale, it's all in the same island. Just north of Kent, was June. Well, after the hurricane, Imrodale got, if I remember correctly, like 58 million, the city of Emerald Owl Greg Murphy leverage And got him 58 million On slow county got like 16 million the county not a city Pamela co county got like 8 million Poor scouting in in the district second poor scouting district got nothing that's a county. I'm from where I grew up Um, It was very disproportionate. The city got 58 for this new beach reconstruction project. We're basically,

they're going to pump sand to rebuild the beach, which is also where one of three of his beach houses sits. A beach house that in 1997 he paid $700,000 for. And after that project came up, so it for $3.49 million, We send it to every news media outlet to include Fox News to include Carl Higby at Newsmax. Nothing. This young lady who is a guest on the Newsmax on Carl's show and stuff. And I had met Carl. I worked out with Carl Higby up in Connecticut a long time ago. We had a mutual friend. I knew the dude.

It seemed like a nice guy. And she was like, yeah, I'm gonna get you on the Carl. Not man. Nothing. You know, we're eight green braids and five or six seals running. And of course, Eli, Zinkie, Van Orden, all won. None of the GBAs had any support. What's that?

Oh, and the show. That's right. I don't know why I was forget about him. Yeah, he had a lot of support from Grinchaw. The rest of us, I mean, we were straight up told, Kevin McCarthy do not, does not want, guys like you and Congress. No shit.

That's the minister. Why? Cause they know Dan Will will stand up to him. Yeah. Right? They know Dan Will, we're not doing it for the money, cause we served our entire lives for military pay. They know they know they don't want us there. And what's worse is American public is too fucking lazy to do their research. Less than 20% of the voters in

our district are as sure Republican voters bothered to vote in our primary Are you serious? I got 10 to 20% of only just under 20% Yeah, man. How do you fix that man? You know everybody's like oh, it's lost, you know Some people are even talking civil war and shit and I like, maybe we should just try the voting thing before we say voting doesn't work. Yeah. But let's face it, man, the good American family, they're taking their kids to soccer practice.

They're taking their kids to the beach or they're doing whatever, they're doing family stuff and they're not involved. If that doesn't change, it's not gonna get better. And I don't even know if it's gonna get any better. I mean, the fact that like, it's not looking likely. No.

You know, it just, for me, the nail in the coffin was McCarthy being voted in as speaker. I mean, you're starting to see people leave the country, you know, spooky, man. But yeah, I mean, people leave the country, you know. Spooky, man. Powerful people. I mean, are, are, they're leaving. Yeah.

It's bad, man. And, and, you know, I listen to so many politicians and I'm doing it less than I have unfollowed, and you're people like, but we need guys like you. I'm like, of unfollowed. And you're people like, but we need guys like you. I'm like, okay. Well, I need $1.5 fucking million to get up there. Ganging rich friends? Oh, no, because those rich people

already have a congressman. Yeah. Why do you think rich conservatives aren't gonna give to someone like me? Because they already owe Greg Murphy. Yeah, because they already own So how am I gonna get funds I did have the um the club for growth They wanted to support me, but they said hey man straight up Six weeks to your election, man,

you're a waste of money. I don't know. That's fair. I understand. You know, there, because the guy straight up told me he's like, it would take three million dollars to get you anywhere near winning. He's like, and we got that. He's like, you're not a $3 million district, bro. And to put it in perspective, right? So, great Murphy, what's the primary? And now he's going up against a very conservative black woman that's a Democrat. Lady named Miss Parba Gaskins. And I gave her everything that we had on Greg Murphy.

I gave a Democrat because she's a better person than he is. And I would take good people who lean on slightly left, then completely corrupt lying-ass conservatives who aren't conservative. Greg Murphy, his daughter despised him. She posted something one time how big of a dirtbag was that when she was in college, he forced her to get an abortion. If you look at his campaign in OpenSecrets.org, you'll see organizations like the American Medical Association and you might say, well that makes sense. He's a doctor. The American Medical Association take a moment and find out it stands on abortion.

American medical association is not just pro choice, it's pro abortion. His other campaign contributions, farm, big, farm, some real estate people from Immortal. Brow, bottom pay for. Yeah, it's fine. Let's bottom paid for. And like I said, I really haven't spoken much about it. It's been just over a year since the end of that primary. And the reason I didn't want people to accuse me and be in bitter, I'm not a bitter person.

I'm actually really happy and things are going great for me. But here's the truth. And I said, I really haven't put it out there. When we set this up, I was like, I think maybe that's when I really come out. Same with Ibegan. I wasn't certain about putting much of it out there. Just because. you know, yeah.

Well, know what you know now about politics and the uniparty and how many of these people are bought and paid for. What do you think the answer is? What do you think the answer is? There is no doubt in my mind that if half the American people would rally, we could change things. Not even half.

You know what, screw it. I'll call it it 12 to 15% of the American citizens rallied. And I don't care if you're left right because it doesn't matter anymore. Right. We are literally fighting for the survival of the place to be left or right. And I remember when socialists or not socialists, you know, slightly left leaning people, weren't people I hated, weren't people I had to hate, right? Nowadays, if I disagree with you on, you know, would you rather, you know, wear, I don't know, tennis shoes are boots.

When I, we got to hate each other. Yeah. Because I decided to wear boots today instead of tennis shoes, so I got to hate you now. And they've done this, man. It's theotrics, it's bullshit. It's smoking mirrors man. I don't have to hate people that I disagree with.

I don't hate anybody. I mean, I got a couple of people, I'd like an opportunity to hang out with an ally for a few minutes, but I don't hate them. I don't have hating my heart, dude. I don't know that I ever have. I mean, I've had times where I like, like I said, I wanted to get back there, right, and settle some scores.

But enough with this hate me, to other men. Yeah. We're not gonna have a country where you can be liberal or you can be a Christian, where that country's going away. If we don't get together and fix it, and take that power back from these bought and paid for so-called representatives. Yeah.

Yeah, man. Now, if that doesn't happen, I'm sorry. There's no doubt that our trajectory is taking us because sooner or later, conservatives are gonna get fed up. They keep pressing the fucking with people's kids, right? Like, why did they stop with the COVID stuff?

Because people were, had enough. People were starting to revolt against a whole mandates and their children and the school boards and all that. People were starting to lose their shit. They were tired of it. They were really backed off. Now they're like, oh, we didn't mandate anything. What?

Oh, we're just forgiving them, right? When was the last time you heard about any of the Republican representatives doing anything to punish all the people that put this complete lie of the pandemic and the complete lie of the vaccine? No one. There is no one going to be held accountable for that stuff unless the American people do it

and we're not going to. No one's ever held accountable in government. Never. Until, you know, revolution happens. And I don't want that, dude. My niece, she's a beautiful young lady. She doesn't know what it's like not to have Wi-Fi, bro. Yeah.

Right, she's been in her entire life, right? But at the time she was flying, there was Wi-Fi on airplanes. Right. And I don't want that young lady who has never missed a meal. Who's lived a nice life because my older sister's done well for herself. I do not want my niece to know what war looks like. War in America, dude. When white people start killing white people, it's ugly. All right, look, throughout the world history, man. You know, and I say that because let's face it, and it's not a racist thing. But when this world, when the country comes to tips, Mostly a country against a bunch of rich white dudes.

You know, people are fed up and that's scary. War here is scary. I like air conditioning. I, as much as I like being outside when I'm inside, I like to be comfortable. I like hot water. I like the Wi-Fi. I like cell service and all that stuff.

So the first thing that goes away when this country collapses. And we're already, we have enemies other than ourselves, man. Because we're too stupid to make allies out of Russia and China. We wanna fight them. Because- Well, we kinda went over this at the beginning, you know?

Maybe we're not the good guys we thought we were. I think we are. And I think there's probably two dudes somewhere in Russia and probably two dudes somewhere in China that are good guys too. And they're probably also tied to the bullshit that their governments are doing. Yeah.

Like I said, I don't think people in general are necessarily evil, but when they get together and you get money involved and the government involved because the government makes larceny legal. Do you think this is beyond politics? Do you think any of this goes into... I've been hearing a lot about spiritual warfare. Maybe so.

You could have versus evil. Are we there? At some levels? Certainly. Certainly at some levels. I mean, we are, I remember, right? Like I remember my aunts and my grandma and all them like freaking out over a motley crew in poison. And you know the 80s rock bands and they had crazy hair

You know they're dressing up like girls Yeah, I'm pretty sure Motley crew wasn't gay Like them dudes were they might have had some teasing in their hair and stuff, but those rock bands, you know they They were they were probably mostly heterosexual mostly they might have done some other crazy shit But remember in the 80s man and then gangster rap happened, oh my God, this is horrible, it's Satan. You know, I think that was just the beginning of it. And I'm not saying that like, Motley crew and those dudes were evil or anything,

but that was the perception of the generation ahead of us that, oh my God, you know, Alice Cooper, I mean, these people are evil, right? And clearly now, Alice is a Christian or whatever. But that stuff that was happening in the 80s, that was people having a good time because the economy was just crushing it. What's happening now? We've got people trying to condone the behavior of child rape and there is no such thing as child's children

consenting. Children cannot consent. Children cannot make decisions that we're saying that they can't. It was just a most and I were talking to her. You can a child can't even make the decision if he wants to, he or she wants to live with, whichever parent when there's a divorce. But you're saying they can consent to sins or consent to dismembering themselves. They're most of us talking about it. She can't even choose which,

who you want to live with, mom or dad. Courts got to decide. But you want to whack your junk off, you want to rip your ovaries out you can do that you can do that You want to take puberty blockers you can do this woman it was actually in Washington the state can Confensgate your kid Because you won't let them have that shit. Yep What yeah, yeah, and it's spreading it's spreading It's spreading. And that's where I'm getting. You're starting to see this push.

It's being pushed. Push, push, push, push. It's spreading, it's moving into Colorado, it's moving into California, it's moving in them. I think it's Minnesota. You know, this is all that's happening fast. It's moving in them. I think it's Minnesota. You know, it's all, it's happening fast. It's common quick. This woman that Melissa was talking about, having horrible menstrual periods,

mid-20s, late-20s maybe, knows, made the decision, and she will, she does not want to have kids. Went to her doctor and asked to have a hysterectomy. And they said, no, because one day you might change your mind and you want to have to have babies. This is almost 30 year old woman and adult legal adult cannot make that decision for herself. But if she went back or went to a different doctor and said, hey, I'm a dude. I'm going to need a hysterectomy. I I'm a dude. I'm gonna need a history at me. You can be like, cool. Knock that right out for you.

Yeah, fuck, man. All right, I wish I had the answer. Like to me, yeah, I have the answers, but I have no way, no viable way of executing it. I can't, I have no way of rallying that type of people. I don't have the means of an Elon Musk, you know, and that's what you need to fight this type of war. It's money. And how do you compete with the Soros and the Bezos and the conservative billionaires aren't funding social projects, right? They're paying very specific money to get what they want to further their business because

they're practical. That's why they own congressmen and senators. And I mean, we see it all the time. There's like at least 10 different people putting out information every day on their insider training. And they're not even hiding it anymore. Yeah. They don't care what we think. Yeah.

You know, part of me thinks it's unfixable. We're so divided now. We, there's so much hate in there. I don't think you can fix it with politics. I think the only way that you can start waking people up is by bringing them to something that this country was founded on and that's God.

people up is by bringing them to something that this country was founded on and that's God. And hope that people bring their morals back to that. How many different examples are there that when cultures turn their back on God, they meet their demise and I almost I Almost don't believe I'm not certain That it's like God says you know what when they reach this point I'm gonna crush them. I mean in some teaching the Bible's was a couple of other times. I don't think I'm more all right He basically said Get out and burn in this place

But in others other societies, whatever, I think he just lets us do that free will thing. He just lets us do. And here we are. And there's only, like you said, without turning back and following his ways. I've got some agnostic and atheist friends. And we all agree that the 10 Commandments is a pretty decent document.

You know, it's like, eh, if we just kind of took it out of the Bible and I showed it to you, would you not agree that the 10 Commandments is a pretty decent way to treat each other? And they're like, well, yeah, of course, how shall I kill? Now, shall I not, you know, come at the neighbor's wife.

I mean, it was basic, don't do this, you know. It transcends whatever religion or lack of religion you have. Like, good people know what goodness is. Yeah. But good people might their own business. And that's why we're here. That is why we're here. And let's face it, man. I mean, you know, we see it like in the, you know, the title called two A, whatever group, enthusiasts. I don't want to call it a community because it ain't., you got all these influencer types who are costly posting about second amendment issues.

Then we'll put their money where their mouth is. You know, they, if it's not going to benefit them, you know, there is no leadership to be had in the two-way community because all those influencers out there care way more about their followings and the clicks and the lights and their promotion of their business under the rules of my second amendment supporter. You might be a second amendment supporter, but don't talk to me about truly being in the fight. I ran for Congress. You know what I mean? And it wasn't fun.

I mean, again, lots of good lessons. But you're talking about my life for over six months was leave my house at six in the morning and maybe get back before midnight. We spent over $50,000 of our own money. Hell, I had a $10,000 KX 450 that just bought and I raffled it off. I don't need it that, and that's not even included in the $50,000.

I had as much as I could put it stake. And I had a couple of people, that's all you're putting in. To go like, I'm like, I'm not rich, dude. That's why you should vote for me, because I'm not a rich white dude. You know, I'm not in it for the money. I don't care.

I swore that I would only do two terms. So what enough? I promised $50,000 and that I would only do two times. You know? Yeah. And it wasn't enough. It wasn't enough to get people off their asses to go vote.

I don't know, bro. And if we could do that, if I say, if I think if we could get 12 to 20% of Americans, all their assets, but you know what, it's like rallies, right? Like Democrats, man, they'll rally in a second. How many rallies have there been on Capitol Hill since January 6th? Only a couple. And they were actually, we're not even at the Capitol there in the, in the, in the, at the

park. I went to one, one of the first ones, and that was the defeat of the mandate. There weren't many people there. It was a eating representatives there. It was just sad, but they knew what they were doing on January 6th, you know, they made everyone afraid to protest It's our team our team. How do you say a team in square? No They're not over anybody would it take they damn sure shut down public post-test Now everyone's afraid to go protest on Capitol Hill because they can get thrown in jail. No due process. It was brilliant. They're doing a good job at what they're doing. You know, and that's the scary part. They're doing it right in front of our faces and we're

not doing anything about it. So we're gonna get some more chickens and continue to my own damn business. We didn't everyone's ready to take whatever course of action that fix this stuff, give me a call. I'm ready. Until then, I'm gonna go about the amount of my own business like everybody else. And I hate it.

I'm not a politician, man. I mean, clearly, like I said, just to infest fight you then argue with you about anything stupid, you know? And it's not personal, right? I'm a violent person, it's like, I just don't like arguing. So yeah, I don't know, I don't know how much fun

we would have on Capitol Hill. You can only imagine Eli going, dude, stop. You can't tell everyone going, dude, stop. Like, you can't tell everyone. I was joking it. You know, maybe we could make C-span right again. It was too many. C-span and see who Tony's telling the fuck off today. Well, we got to leave him with something positive

before we wrap this up, you know? Yeah. And so, I don't know what that is, but. Hey, you know what, man? America's still got a lot of amazing people everywhere I go, and I meet cool people. I mean, you know, the internet's horrible blah, blah. The one for the internet, I would've met you.

You know, I've made amazing networks and contacts over the internet. I have awesome friends. I don't think America's lost, man, but she may have to do some remodeling. Yeah. She may need some restructuring. There's definitely some of that, you know what? I'll tell you, man. Hypothetically speaking, and I promise you I am not advocating for any type of

insurrection or so it wouldn't be an insurrection would be a civil war insurrection would be treasonous and when good people stand up against their government That is not what it is not insurrection It's a revolution to revolt what everyone to call it On the upside if we ever get there, you know, easy it is going to be to flip them dudes right out of their chairs, fat bastards. They're not going to fight. I do worry about our military and our police. Good people follow orders, man. That's scary.

Good people follow orders. I mean, I don't know. But on the positive side man, for you can, everything that we've talked about before the congressional run, you know, is all good stuff man. We've got, you know, America's still raising some good boys and some good girls. I live in the middle of nowhere,

rural North Carolina again, and I look around and I'm like, these are good people and sooner or later, they're gonna get tired of it. So I don't think it's completely dismal. I mean, if we only look at what we see on these things, it would be easy to assume everything's this one, everything's dark.

But I'll tell you, it's not 100%. Like I said, we're continuing to build networks of good people. You're doing amazing shit, you know. It's not a loss. Here's an example. I grew up in Stonewall, Stonewall, North Carolina, United Methodist Church. A few months ago, the members of that church, I'm a member of it, but I wasn't consulted and I still ask my aunt why because but it was basically like you had to be there to vote. So the United Methodist Church is a large organization. And they decided they gave thumbs up to same text marriage,

they gave thumbs up to a lot of things that just the Bible doesn't support. And my church, along with many other Methodist churches, have decided to leave the United Methodist Church. I'm so proud of them. They stuck to their beliefs. They stuck to their beliefs and they sat down. It wasn't an easy process. They voted to leave the United Methodist Church. And now they are the Stonewall Methodist Church

Stuck and people left especially young people and they already had such a low membership, dude But people are sticking to their principles and that's a good thing. Yeah, and now to clarify they did it's not banning Gay people or homosexuals from the church. That is not what they were doing. It was they did not want to accept gay marriage. They would not perform gay marriages in their church because the Bible clearly states marriages between a man and a woman and God. And so they said, hey, that's where we're drawing the line. And so I'm proud of them.

You know, I'm not proud of them because they're doing something that's against the gay community. It's not the case. You know, my gay friends are an amazing bunch of dudes. You know, yes, I have gay friends, man, they're fucking cool dudes. It's a... It's a... People are sticking to their guns, trying to. So, I think there's still some type of glimmer of hope. I don't know. Well... It's gonna be an interesting next two decades. Yeah.

It's definitely got a fan-entrusting next two decades. But, man, I just... I want to wrap this up, you know, and I just wanna say thank you, man, for coming out. No way, bro, thank you. And sharing your experience from childhood all the way up to present day and, you know, if there's a psychedelic experience,

I mean, that's gonna help a lot of people. So thank you for sharing that. Yeah, man. No, if we're going to be mentors and leaders for this next generation of young men, generation of young men and there to have who let's face it, fathers are generation men. It's done a pretty bad job that raised in that next generation. But you're talking about the opportunity for that pendulum to swing from all this craziness to this next generation being one of the most conservative generations Americans ever seen. and their social social scientists predicting that even liberals and they're scared So you gotta keep doing what you're doing and you've had I was joking and I've dealt with my other buddies I'm like man, I can't believe I'm having to follow some of his guests, you know like you've had some amazing people sharing amazing experiences. Don't stop.

You are one of those amazing guests. So, please, like, you are. You deserve every fucking minute you've sat in that chair, man. And it was a real honor to interview you. Yeah, pleasure was my brother. Thank you, Mark. Make a little sports analysis, pop culture, and great interviews, and you've got the Rich Eyes and Show Podcasts. The jets are bracing themselves into doing hard knocks this year.

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