Shawn Ryan Show - #76 Erik Prince - China vs Taiwan, JFK Assassination, Ad ID Tracking & Social Credit | Part 2

Episode Date: September 27, 2023

Part 2 of this episode covers growing conflict on the world stage and secrecy here at home. Shawn & Erik discuss growing tensions between China & Taiwan. How likely is a CCP invasion of the island? What role will the US play in that conflict? Does Taiwan even stand a chance? Have all of these questions answered by Prince, one of the foremost authorities on foreign policy and global security operations. Prince also brings a new perspective to the JFK assassination and classified reports. We also dig into social credit scores and the future of the US dollar. This episode will keep you "in the know." Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://lairdsuperfood.com - USE CODE "SRS" https://americanfinancing.net | 866-781-8900 https://hvmn.com/shawn Erik Prince Links: https://www.unplugged.com Please leave us a review on Apple & Spotify Podcasts. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website | Patreon | TikTok | Instagram | Download Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We did. And that worked. And I thought, you know, if we can do operations against pirates across hundreds of miles of unmanaged roads in Somalia, then building a mine or doing whatever in in the likes of Africa, maybe as an impossible. So I started frontier resource group, which was focused on early stage development of mining, geoscience, exploration, kind of stuff in the African mineral space. And then while I was traveling on the world trying to raise money, passed through Hong Kong, and a tycoon said, please come and build a logistics company here that we're focused

on supporting big Chinese projects in Africa because they have a terrible problem with transportation and security. And so that's what started Frontier Service Group, which was a Hong Kong listed company that ended up buying and operating an air operation in Kenya, which did MetaVac and VIP transport. In fact, it actually did a lot of Metavac support for the USG in Somalia. In fact, whenever the African commander would visit Somalia, he would fly on an aircraft from Phoenix Aviation, which is based in Nairobi.

So, and it owned a trucking company in South Africa, which did trucking of groceries and consumer goods from Cape Town and Durban all the way up through the DRC, through Malawi, Zim, etc. We did a fishing program in Mozambique for a couple of years, managing a tuna fleet, and then also did an air charter operation, air cargo operation out of Malta, and it actually managed some business jets there, which for the likes of Madonna and Guns and Roses and that kind of stuff. So people have mischaracterized it as a PMC. There was no armed people working for the company. It was a really

interesting window into how China Inc works. And I left as more and more mainland money got involved. Citic Group, which is the, I don't know if it's the largest, but it was the original SOE state-owned enterprise, became a bigger and bigger investor in the company. And when they started requiring CCP membership, committee meetings and all the rest, that was out. So I think that was two and a half, almost three years ago. But seeing how slow the decision-making process was and how everything is political. On the Chinese side,

it really, I got to understand how Beijing makes its decisions and how all things, all decision-making is really directed towards what the CCP wants. And I really, you know, I got frustrated because there was a string of bad CEOs and I was a Chinese guy that we just the board could not fire. All I was was I was a chairman for a while and then just a board member couldn't get rid of this guy. Nobody was failing, couldn't do it. And I read a rather interesting book called The Party And it's a really inside look as to how the CCP is organized.

And they actually have a general personnel department that assigns people into certain roles, whether it's into a company, into a private company, into a government ministry or whatever. But people are very concerned about China taking over Africa. They have a bit of a head start, but it's a very fixable problem as well, because they don't do local development the way a Western company does. If China goes to build a mine or a project somewhere in Africa,

they take everything with them from China down to the guy that cooks noodles in the barber. I mean everything. They don't do any kind of local empowerment, extremely racist, extremely abusive towards the locals. And so all those governments are quite happy to have Western capital and Western, a Western quality of work, but the Chinese do black bag diplomacy very, very well. And so even the, again, the law of unintended consequences of all the anti-corruption stuff that the US pushes for, which is a legitimate noble goal, but it makes it so that it's very difficult for any Western companies to go operate in a very challenged corrupt environment even the French, right?

French have a a bribery issue that can actually deduct it on their taxes. Really? Yeah so it's it's It's probably appropriate that it's in some places that are not the United States, that is just how business is done. And yes, we should fight against it, but there are some things that America can't control.

And I think Washington needs to probably realize that. But so China pushing into a vacuum, if a country needs, at the same time the US is saying, we're gonna help you with your gender issues and your whatever that might be be or green transformation in a country where people don't have electricity, don't have an all weather road they can use or access to clean water, the US is pushing gender issues, it is a mismatch of wants versus needs. But China will come in and say it's a huge miscalculation.

It's a grotesque thing that these people, if he shit about gender ideology, when they do not have running water or electricity. Correct. Or when the, or when the wife has to walk miles every day to go cut down wood and gather wood to drag it back to cook with when you could develop hydrocarbons or a lot of other stuff to make their lives better. But China will come in and offer if there's a road or a dam or whatever need of this say, they basically come in at about three to four times what should be market retail price. And of course, it's ridiculous, but if they're pushing into a vacuum and that's your only

option, they take it and they make it easier because they pay off the president, the minister of mine, the minister of energy or whatever to do that. I talked about it last time, in the basement of the foreign ministry in Beijing, there's a hall, there's like a vault room where they take that leader when they come to Beijing and they walk them to that safe deposit box and they've got their name on it and they open it up and there's gold or cash or diamonds or whatever and to say this is yours for when you retire as long as you play ball with us. That's that is the Chinese way and That is the Chinese way. And again, most of Africa desperately wants to do business with America.

They want Western investors, but it's a... It's probably one of the best things the Trump administration did is they changed development finance. Well, it used to be OPIC, overseas private investment corporation, and they changed it to development finance corporation, and they grew its balance sheet from 24 billion to like 65 billion and they fortunately they took the money away from AID, USAID, which was just hosing money all over the place with no with no private capital attached because when private capital is the first to be spent, it's generally going to be spent much more carefully. So that's at least the start of a counterweight to this Chinese money going into a lot of these

places. So China shows up with money and infrastructure, we were just talking about Russia shows up with muscle and weapons. And there is definitely a space, there is a niche for the west to show up with, with know how governance expertise with actual capable proper security. What the US has been doing in Africa from a security perspective has been quite pathetic. A couple decades messing around in Somalia and that put in the fire out. Come on. How the some I see some some some Somalis I talked to say it's just our infrastructure, our bureaucracy, is that stupid? That I think the entire CT approach that the US has been on for the last 25 years

is wrong, because it's all about this. It's all about finding the top guy, cutting the head off the snake, ignoring the fact that there's always some other asshole or five that are happy to step up and do that. If you look at the history of warfare in putting these fires out, the Punic War, the Peloponnesian War, the Punic War, the American Civil War, World War I, World War II, the winning side, crushed about 30% of the enemy's fighting power. As brutal as that sounds, these wars, these insurgencies, are one by defeating their finance, their logistics, and their manpower. I don't care how good this guy is, if he looks left and looks right and nobody's there,

then it's over. So the hundreds of millions of dollars of high-end drone and surveillance capability to find one asshole when I have friends that have been in Somalia as soft guys or ground branch guys or whatever and they're so frustrated because they'll see on video they'll see 300 jihadis okay to, the El Shabab guys, fighting or training, doing close order military drill at a camp in the bush somewhere and they can't get permission to attack them because the authorities are to go to this guy.

Well, this guy is in some village next to a bunch of other civilians so it's impossible to get permission to take the shot because you might kill an innocent kid when you have 300 or 500 assholes that one big fire force type operation could take out. That's a serious flaw. And that no serious officer of any rank calls bullshit on that.

I find very, very troubling. Yeah, me too. Me too. Because you could have said, you'd done the same thing about a thousand different occurrences like that in Afghanistan when the Taliban are surrounding an enemy camp and they're laying seeds to it. Okay, we have guns, we have artillery,

we have helicopters, do a fire force, they've just presented you a magnificent opportunity to kill 200 Taliban at one time. Stop this nonsense. Go back to actually what works in warfare presented you a magnificent opportunity to kill 200 Taliban at one time. Stop this nonsense. Go back to actually what works in warfare and destroying the base of their pyramid. Makes a whole lot of sense.

It's really not an original thought. It's just as old as the history of warfare. What do you think we should be doing in Africa? Should we be there? Or is it irrelevant to this point? If if look, some are all I'm a I love internal combustion engines. I will be probably one of the last people driving an internal combustion engine. But if there is that want to transform to an electric economy, all those minerals are going to come out of Africa.

That's where the vast majority of that supply is. And so competing there, right? So I think one of the reasons the Russians have been helping to tip over all these francophone countries, Mali, Burkina, Niger, Guinea, Gabon, I would say Chad or Congo-Brasaville, probably be next, is that is about dominating the world world supply of yellow cake of uranium. You've spent a lot of time in Africa. Yes, and it continues to be a struggle. The Russians have moved in with muscle.

They're going to roll up the Sahel. If we're not careful, there are ways that the US should push back that can and you do it through commercial and through hate to sound like I'm beat to drum, but I am, but a private approach because it allows you to operate with and through a foreign government, a host government that desperately wants the help, that doesn't have all the stigma, all the bureaucracy, and the expense that comes with sending conventional uniformed US forces. It is a great opportunity.

We should use a lot more soft personnel in a long-term advising, mentoring role where they live with. It's not a J-set. It's not a two-week exercise where they deploy and they do some training, no, we should have soft guys that speak the language that attach themselves in these places because they will serve like a skeletal structure that Indigenous military at first depends on, but it learns a lot from. And if you provide that leadership, intelligence, communications, medical, logistics, expertise to those units,

it works a lot better. And you can do that either with an active duty soft guy that you give a budget to help carry that forward, or you do that with a contracted soft guy who has that experience, who's there working, whether paid for by the US, paid for by a Western government to secure that supply chain, that works. Because you know, operations in difficult areas are very, very difficult.

And if you depend only on the indigenous forces, if you read the after-action report on that, like 2017, there was a US-soft element that was ambushed in Niger and four Americans were killed. One of their mistakes, they had a long convoy of vehicles, but they'd concentrated the expats into a few vehicles. And so when the ship was on, a lot of those indig units ran away immediately. If they had spread their expat big brother mentor in each of those vehicles,

it would have said, hey, follow me this way and it could have kept the unit together. Obviously needed air power, a little bit of air power, even very unsexy air power. very power, even very unsexy air power. But again, the procurement process of the DOD is so awful. I remember I bought the first Super DeCano in North America in 2005 already. I had it fitted out with a flair and a G-Box, a cell phone intercept kit. We had it set up, we could drop laser-guided bombs. And the idea was that we could do liaisons fire support aircraft, provide it to a JSOC element in Afghanistan or a SOCOM element somewhere in whatever weird African country

where contractor flying the aircraft, either an active duty guy doing the weapons release or even better someone from the host country. So it's always a host country guy deciding that, but that is the cost effective practical way of building air power. Cecil Rhodes, contact you've heard of Rhodes Scholar. He made a lot of money,

dominated the whole Southern half of Africa in the gold and diamond trade. He dominated the whole southern half of Africa in the gold and diamond trade. He dominated the space in Africa with the maximum machine gun and 3000 guys. That's it. Airpower today is the maximum machine gun. I would say air power and then maybe a little bit of arm drone capability, which lessons from the Ukrainian war now have shown that an arm drone can be as cheap as a commercial drone that will drop a grenade. That adaptation of air power gives you an overmatch, right?

It was the first thing that you taught us in the SEAL teams, don't pick a fair fight. So somehow find a way to bring overmatch with you, that's the paradigm that should be applied. But the existing Africom mess is, it's not right. I look, I think even the whole Socom headquarters should be shut and restarted. Really? How many officers at Socom headquarters

actually come from a soft background? I don't even... 5% that's it. Correct. It's become the place where people do their joint tours and so it should be called no-com. Normal operations command not Socom. I'm not insulting the guys that come from a tank unit or an infantry unit or a ship. But if they didn't come from a special operations unit, how were they at special operations command headquarters deciding on plans, policy, procurement, all those things that makes it off unique? The whole reason Socom was brought into being

was to prevent a desert one debacle so that you had money, that you can spend authorities and unique training capability because special operations is different than a normal operation. Again, in a special operations unit, you equip the man. The man is the weapon system. In a conventional unit, you man the equipment. As you're seeing in Ukraine, artillery and tanks, particularly artillery, is still the king of battle. That's a different paradigm to warfare. And if you're going to operate in the weird wacky edges of the frontier, where you don't have the luxury of having all your stuff along, you need a highly adaptable, innovative, devious mind that will find a way to win. And that is not the paradigm

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Switching gear server with all the Russian influence in Africa and all the Chinese influence in Africa Are those two? Are they colliding at all? I wouldn't say colliding they're cooperating I would say a lot of the Chinese big infrastructure projects would be trending towards hiring some Russian capacity for security or enforcement There's some efforts on Chinese, but like I said

before, and the FSG stuff, the idea of a Chinese PMC being anything like a blackwater, zero chance of that happening, because they are all about maximum control. And in we, we enjoy a bit of a gun culture here in America where an individual that served the military that still keeps his skills up with his pistol or his carbine or his long gun and he hunts and he shoots competitively or whatever their idea of a great security operator in China is someone that does come food. Not a gun culture at all. In fact, it's so uptight about letting any of that, one of my favorite sayings, God-treated man, but Samuel Colt made them equal. It's fact, right? There's nothing more empowering for a smaller stature female than being armed, right? That puts her on the same playing field as a six foot eight dude. That kind of empowerment to the individual is antithetical to the Chinese Communist Party

view of society. Period. So bad that a policeman operating a pair, one guy will carry the pistol, the other guy will carry the magazine. And the guy with the pistol has to call back to headquarters to get permission to get the magazine before loads the weapon. So that's, so the idea of a Chinese robust PMC, no way, not happening. So you don't see any competition between Russia and China and Africa. Not competition, I would say, at worst, co-option. But in most ways, if Russia can lock up a resource,

they'll sell it to the Chinese as well. Just like the gas and mineral trade out of Russia, in a lot of it is going south to China. Okay. What about the China Taiwan situation? It is very real and gonna get even more real and scary soon. There is so the next thing to think about so Coming back to that statement nov Navis' Argiutectics, Professionals, Plan Logistics, there are

very few months in the year that an invasion works for Taiwan because of the wind and the sea state. I checked today before I came here and the wind was blowing 30 knots through the Taiwan Straits, not a good day. Not a good day for the PLA. So there's very small weather windows where, right, because what is an amphibious invasion or an airborne strike are really hard to do. You have a hundred miles of open ocean between mainland and Taiwan. In a untested military, where if Xi decides to go for it,

it is he is thrown down. That is his, he's literally putting his life on the line because if they fail, kind of like Putin, Putin riding that tiger, if Xi goes down that road to start that kind of contest, there's only one way he's got to win and win it all or it's toast.

So the next thing to think about is there is an election in January of 2024, so in four months. For the presidency, the existing party that's in power now is from the DPP, the Democratic People's Party, and the the Kuomintang, which is the party that's largely dominated politics in Taiwan since Shinkai Shik, who is defeated by the Chinese Communist and fled there in 49, to the island of Formosa. Now it's Taiwan. The KMT is seen as the very pro-Beijing party. Traditionally that contest. The DPP candidate has said he was pro-independence before.

The danger of him being elected is if he says something, and the Chinese just in the last six months have recast their their their law so that even the refusal of a of an invitation to reunite with the mainland is enough provocation for the for the Chinese to invade

So they've said that Kyle Bass money manager from Texas did a fantastic video at the Hudson Institute, talking about the uneconomic things that China is doing, which points to them getting ready for something kinetic. So, watch that election. So you have the DPP candidate, the KMT candidate is Probeaging. And now you have Terry Guo who was running for KMT but they'd rejected him. He is so Probeaging. Why?

He's the owner of Foxconn. Foxconn is who makes all of Apple's products in China. So makes all of Apple's products in China. So he's a Taiwanese businessman with a huge amount of his business in China. They definitely hold him where they want him. If the KMT wins, then I would say continued Salami slicing by the Chinese to take Beijing, sorry to take Taiwan slowly. All scenarios are not great, because you have massive firepower organized on the Chinese mainland all focusing there.

Like I said, anything that can be identified as a target can be smashed, including aircraft carriers with 5,000 Americans on board, etc. Our submarine fleet will be more important, essential than ever. That's the only thing that could get in any way close. So as you see, China making these unackenomic decisions, and I'll give examples. Their aircraft, the big banks, the big state-owned banks have for 25 years been buying more and more Boeing and Airbus aircraft, buying them to lease to the Chinese national airlines. So literally building a book of business worth tens of billions of dollars over the last 25 years now, all of it's for sale. They're getting ready to be sanctioned proof.

Chinese banks are moving all their foreign currency, all their dollars that they hold away from western banks where they they be subject to sanctions. Chinese government has stored up one and a half years worth of wheat consumption. So, just as recently as last fall, when you had severe food shortages during the party convention, so that was October of 2022. Important. G. G is now been elected to a third term. Really since Mao, the party leaders served two five year terms, ten years and out. G said, oh no, I'm staying until he's now a third term and he's basically president

for life. He has replaced all the finance people in his cabinet with people that ran the missiles, the Air Force, and the Eastern combat regions. So he's replacing financial technocrats with with pipe hitters. He at the party congress where he gave his speech to the whole thousand people in this room, Hu Jing Tao, his predecessor, he literally had him hold off and dragged out of there. predecessor, he literally had him hauled off and dragged out of there. As I'm in charge now, you're not. He, and then replaced any of the other people in the Polet Bureau from Hoozhing Tows click with his own lackey. So he has assembled absolute total control of the Chinese state. total control of the Chinese state. It's bad. And so when you have no one that's opposing you or no one that's even going to bring you bad news tends to cause people to make bad decisions on bad information kind of like Putin had saying

oh yeah we'll be great in Ukraine it'll it'll go swimmingly well. At least the defense of the Ukrainians has, I would say, caused another level of pause on the Chinese before they go all in on seizing it. Why does Taiwan matter to America? Because they make 90% of all the high-end computer chips that literally make our way of life possible. Whether it's the chips in the camera filming this, the chips in the phone that this, the chips in the phone,

that you're watching this on, to the chips in the car, to the chips in aircraft, to the you name it all high in 90% of them come from Taiwan and about 50 to 60% of the mid-range ones. So like the the amount of value to the greater global economy, resident there is dangerously high. And there's money, there's billions dollars being spent to build other chip plants in Korea or Japan or the United States in Arizona, but that's years from now,

and a lot, it's it's it exceedingly difficult precise thing to make. As you can imagine, fitting that many micro-processors on a few millimeters of silicon. So what does this look like? I had an old frog man buddy, Ted Devine, may he rest in peace? He as a UDT before the Reseal teams, he did a hydro survey of all the beaches of Taiwan in like 1959. I said, Tadders are any good beaches there. He said, no, there's no good beaches for hydro. Thank God. But the few that there are will be right in the north and the southern tips. Taiwan itself is exceedingly difficult terrain. The middle of it is a high mountain range. The east side of the island is largely

uninhabited and and very very difficult to get to. But all the stuff facing the Chinese mainland is where all the the chip plants are and where all the population is. The best thing that could be done because there's not any silver bullet weapon system. There's not some magical aircraft or missile or even submarines at this point that would deter an invasion, I think. If you built, if the US funded or organized or encouraged a serious home guard to be built in Taiwan. Like I talked about for the American Revolution, 40% were pro-crown. There's probably about 40% of Taiwan that would be plenty okay with reuniting with Beijing. They think it's just fine.

They don't need their individual freedom. There's 30% in the middle that don't really carry the way. There's 30% that want their freedom or at least status quo so they can keep on being Taiwan. All we need is 3% of that population. So there's what, 24 million people in Taiwan. That's about 720,000 people. The Taiwanese Armed Forces, like a million?

No, sorry, no, no. It's like 150 to 200,000 active duty, useless. Super corrupt, super penetrated, super lazy. They're training as a joke. If a home guard of even a half million people were equipped and trained with basic firearms, basic demolitions, teach them how to do a claim more, an EFP, a good roadside bomb, so that you create real uncertainty about how quickly an invasion and occupation and domination could be accomplished. Anytime you're going to do an invasion,

the first 24 to 40 hours are very, very in question for the invading force. Look at any airborne assault, whether it's Normandy, thank God, the Nazis have been pinned in place by the Jedbergs and by Allied bombing. In Operation Market Garden in the Netherlands, the US and Brits got slaughtered in airborne invasion

because they're vulnerable. This invasion, we very, very vulnerable in the first hours and days. The thing that the Beijing planner could not account for is 500,000 people that are gunned up that live in those areas and they say not today. I will defend my house, my family, my neighborhood. I prefer to remain free.

That's a very, very tough light to extinguish. There should be 100,000 EFPs stockpiled on the island. In lots of different caches, you can do them through fire departments, through civil defense centers, police departments. Yes, a lot of those will be compromised and turned over to the CCP. So what? You could leave enough residual capacity of small units, give them the means to communicate, discreetly and covertly, and why? Because if Beijing is going to go for it, they have to know it can go fast. Why?

Because they import about 75 to 80% of all their hydrocarbons. They are extremely vulnerable to a blockade themselves. All the hydrocarbons, oil and gas that come out of the Middle East, comes through the Straits of Malacca. It's only a mile and a half wide, very easy, asymmetrically, to shut off tankers from using that. Yeah, Jim. Makes sense. All the gas that comes into the country

comes in through Turkmenistan, through Kazakhstan, through the northwest corner. Accidents happen on pipelines. Another pipeline runs right through Burma, from the port of Jopio, right up the old road to Mandalay that the US used in World War II to support the free Chinese fighting the Japanese. If, and that is the, what should be a soft mission, is figuring out how to, how to, in a, in a, in a denyable or, or, um, unconventional way, be able to, to clip those resources, because again, China, China cannot stand the negative narrative that would erupt around them going in and being brutal in Taiwan. The reason they couldn't do Hong Kong at the height of protests in like 2018 and 19 is because there was hundreds of thousands of phones.

I mean, hell, there's a Chinese garrison in the city, but they weren't gonna roll them out and do a tandem in square style because there was so much means to communicate to show any kind of brutal crackdown. So if you give the people of Taiwan, the basic means of communication, of recording mainland badness, and especially the means to of communication, of recording, mainland badness,

and especially the means to defend themselves, even basically that will deter, because that becomes a very incalculable risk. Because look, I remember in the Blackwater days, that we could take somebody in five days that had never touched a gun in their lives that were, they basically had zero martial skills. And we can make them a competent operator with a rifle that could shoot moving, communicate, run through

a stress course safely and competently in five days. You give me a time and ease guy for three weeks. So basics from small arms, some basic urban tactics, some basic urban ambush capabilities, a couple days of improvised demo, some comms, some medical, and then some regular reserve training that's cheap, it's very effective. And it would actually, I think, be a unifying theme across the time of the society. They're trying to do it now. They're doing it with airsoft guns, do with real guns. Go to the CrossFit gyms, go to the Boy Scout leaders,

go to the natural, again, we really need two or three percent and that's the deterrent. I wish all the smart people in Washington would listen, but again, they tend to listen to the the siren song of, oh, there's always some other miraculous weapon system that's gonna do it. What smart people in Washington are you referring to?

Oh, that's so, that's the ones occupying all the e-ring. Yeah. So back to the communications piece, because I've made of a lot of sense with the phones and being able to record the brutality. Are you saying that Taiwanese don't have that capability? It's a stated goal that if Beijing has a go at Taiwan,

they're gonna do all they can to smash any and all power, water, and telecom, and to shut it down in Taiwan. So that it is completely isolated, completely cut off and blockaded. And I don't know that, here's the thing. Do I want my kids and your kids fighting and dying for Taiwan?

No, it shouldn't have to. We can empower Taiwanese, that 3% of that population give them the means to defend themselves, that's enough of a deterrent factor. Because again, the frustrating thing about the Pentagon for me is that they keep running, they're gonna run the same playbook

that the Chinese would be expecting, and then we'll be surprised when aircraft carrier battle groups get smoked. Yeah. I mean, if Taiwan were those percentages that you rattled off, was that for global, was that for the world's computer chips, or was that US? Global. Why aren't

more countries involved in this? In producing them? Why aren't more countries concerned about Taiwan? It seems like the US is the only one concerned, and it seems like only about half of the US is the US. Look, the Europeans are waking up. The Koreans are very concerned. They're the Samsung LG, they're spending billions of dollars building more chip capacity, but the really high-end chip capacity is still resident only in Taiwan. That needs to be replicated elsewhere.

How are the, how are more nations not? Good question. Look, the Japanese are highly concerned. I mean, I guess it makes sense. I mean, we saw this... I mean, I don't know what it's called, other than stupidity. We saw the stupidity with the gas coming from Russia into Europe. Yeah, Trump called it when he said,

Hey, Germany, wake up or you're going to be, you know, subjugated to a Russian gas and they laughed and they, they, I, look, I don't understand the German mindset because they even, even after the invasion, they still shut down nuclear plants. Nuclear is clean, highly efficient, and effectively renewable, because you can reprocess the fuel and use more of it. And use it again, I don't understand the green mind blob that's overtaken the Germans.

But even the Japanese are doing significant reforms to their defense and trying that Prime Minister Koshita has been trying to do that. But at the same time, he's getting armed twisted by Rama Manual, the U.S. Ambassador, to adopt all this LBGTQ, whatever legislation, which is a complete distraction from a very conservative Japanese society that's trying to prepare to defend themselves from a mortal Chinese threat. But again, gender seems to be a greater priority for the Obama administration than for preparing against,

or deterring against any conflict from China. Why are we seeing this? Gender ideology just consume everything. It's spreading everywhere. It's in schools, it's in schools, it's in advertisement. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

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I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. when suddenly it was, it had all this idle capacity and somebody put more funds into it to say, all right, let's push gender. And I think I was talking to a

psychiatrist friend of mine because I asked him, I said, what is causing this gender thing? He said, every, every decade or so, there's 3% of population that's highly susceptible to suggestion. And in the 90s or the 2000s, it was anorexia and bulimia and that was the issue that people were wrestling with. And now it's become gender. And so to actualize yourself and to get attention and all the rest and especially Reinforce and amplified by all the the maladies and bad things that come with social media you have this this gender cult which is wrecking society

What do you think it stems from is it is it the money behind it? Is it the surgeries? What is it? I think it's a... I think it's a... I think it's a... Well, now we know. ...of a lifelong patient. Correct.

A lifelong patient and the doctors and the surgery centers that actually begin involved in this need to be held to account because how is this not a violation of the Hippocratic Oath? It would be a tragedy if we were losing one person to drug overdose every day. Even five, seven, or 12 people. It would be unimaginable if 15 families a day received news of a lost loved one to overdose.

But in Canada, we lose 20 people to overdose every single day. That's a crisis. At CAMH, we won't back down until there's no one left behind. Donate at CAMH.ca to help us treat addiction and build hope. Let's move into CIA reform. Okay? Okay. Look, the United States needs a robust, capable, devious intelligence service that is focused on collecting information and providing information

so that policymakers can make very good decisions. They are not in the business of pushing information domestically to pursue a desired policy outcome, big difference. The 1947, so I mean, I'm a big enough advocate of the special operations intelligence world that one of my kids is named after Wild Bill Donovan. An amazing guy, lawyer,

Medal of Honor recipient, World War I, started the OSS, the Office of Strategic Services. And he left at the end of the war and the CIA was, was started at the 47. We need covert action. We need daring need daring operations. It talks about cloudswits, the old Prussian military philosopher. It talks about two kinds of courage to fight a war.

Individual soldiers courage and the moral courage of leaders to commit their people to an uncertain outcome. We need both of those in Washington, but we're especially lacking in moral courage. You need an agency that's willing to dare to go do high-risk stuff. The issue is it's become a highly politicized organization that is very risk-averse and very tilting towards perpetuation of the status quo of party power politics. And one of my grave concerns that even happened to the Trump administration is, and now we see in Kennedy,

Bobby Kennedy's son, running for office, asking for secret service protection denied by the Biden administration but whatever happened with the Kennedy assassination there was a I think it was the Warren Commission and because of the you know I have a I have a business partner who's a real ballistic expert and he's done all the analysis on what the Warren Commission found for for the shooting of John F. Kennedy and there's no way it was a long shooter and I even read a very urban a very detailed Analysis of urban sniping that said there's no way it was one shooter So in 1992 Congress passed the law

one shooter. So in 1992, Congress passed the law that said within 25 years, everything related to the Kennedy assassination must be declassified and released to the public within 25 years. The 25 year date is 2017. Mike Pompeo was a CIA director and he didn't release the documents. Nor has the Biden administration. And so I'm wondering what the hell is it that they're covering? Maybe it points to the agency, maybe it points to organized crime. Who knows? But for heaven's sakes, this, for this republic to function, we need the disinfecting effect of transparency and let it go. Let those facts out. The same issue, even if you've heard of Havana syndrome, which is started in Havana,

and there was US diplomats, people assigned to the embassy that were suddenly coming down with terrible blindness and TBIs. Literally, traumatic brain injury that you could detect on a brain scan. In one case, there was a guy in Columbia affected. This has been in India, in Vietnam, in Vienna, even in Washington, D.C. This has been going on all over the place. And there's a big gap between the agency director saying, now, this is not a foreign power, this is not a hostile power. And there's a hell of a lot of other fact pattern

that points to this being done by a Russian hostile foreign power. And I'm bothered by the fact that the agency would want to gloss over this, telling its own people that they're liars, that is not how you engender the trust and confidence of your people, to be willing to go do very dangerous things in the behalf of their country, when their country will come over and leave them hanging and tell them they're liars for, in some cases, a guy had a brain scan two weeks before was fine incident happens and there's

definitive measurable damage to his brain caused by this this Soviet designed actually came from from a heartbeat back in the in the early 70s. So that's a problem. We need truth on that. You know, I interviewed, I interviewed a case officer on the show all about that, who got, supposedly got hit with one of those microwave weapons. Unfortunately, he was also one of the CIA guys

that, do you know who I'm talking about? Paul Amarros. Yeah. He was also one of the, yeah, one of the guys that claimed that Hunter Biden's laptop was, was Russian disinformation. Yep. And so I just disregarded the entire episode because I mean, is he reliable? Look, I, in that case, that was obviously, that was an attempt by the Democratic presidential campaign to enlist as much credibility as they could.

And they grabbed every other fellow travel that they could from the intelligency that thought that Trump would be bad for the CIA. And so they say, oh, yeah, without any real knowledge, you say that looks like Russian disinformation. But I mean, as long as it was, and it was 1,000% wrong, it worked for them. Their lie told off and enough, as a way of somehow coming through. That's how Joseph Goebbels did it as well,

the Nazi propagandist. So you're saying this technology was developed back in the 70s? Are we using it? I don't think so. You don't think we're using it on our own people? I mean, there's reports of this happening at the White House, at the White House, stairs,

different hotels and DC. I don't know, but I would not be surprised if the Russians felt empowered enough to do it wherever the hell they chose to. How do you think it's being employed? What do you mean? What is it? What does it come from? It's a come from a handheld device.

Does it come from a satellite? It's not tiny. It's not. It's it's got to be something line of sight. I don't know that much of the detail of it. Do you know anything about these energy weapons that are kind of starting to show up? You mean lasers or what?

Well, I mean, there's, I can't remember the name of the company or I don't know how to pronounce it. It's like a premise or something. But I've actually been talking to the CEO of the company a little bit and he sent me some, I mean it's on, it's open source, it's on, you can see it on social media, but it's these, these, these, it almost looks like a surface air missile trailer and it will, there's videos of drones coming out and it'll just, disable the drones,

mid-flight, all of them will fall. There's no ammo, there's no sound, there's no nothing. So it's a jamming device though. I don't know, I think there's different options. Well, here's the thing. The, there's autonomous drones, which is gonna navigate its way, is you're gonna launch it, and it's autonomous drones, which is going to navigate its way, as you're going to launch it,

and it's going to find, it's going to navigate its way to a point and crash into something. So you need really good targeting information before you launch it to do that. Like the Shahed 136, the cheap one that the Iranians have developed, that have been smashing the cheap one that the Iranians have developed, that have been smashing into a lot of buildings in Ukraine and hitting their infrastructure. It's like a 20 to $50,000 drone that they developed. And that actually, the first version uses a simple version of terrain contour matching,

which is, it's what the old Tomahawk missiles did in the 80s, where they literally take a map and you'd have a map loaded into it and the camera would follow and it would keep following a river or certain look for certain now points. In that sense, it doesn't need that that drone doesn't need any outside command input to find what's going. In fact, they even fly into a jammed environment because it's mapping, it's following its way off of what it sees on the ground. So a jamming device is not going to do much to that. You have to hard kill that, you have to knock that out of the sky. But all these other first-person drones, or even an AI drone, where it's going to be communicating and coordinating with the drones around it, if you have a big RF jammer, which jams the command link, that's where that's what's making all those things fall down. coordinating with the drones around it. If you have a big RF jammer, which jams the command link,

that's what's making all those things fall down. Okay. Unless it's hitting it with some kind of laser energy where it literally has to burn it out of the sky, that's another option, but that takes a lot of energy. And in a sandy or humid environment, you know, if you remember shooting soft lams

and you're las releasing a target, yeah, begging the steel days, sand, dust, snow, dust, does, does terrible things for a laser beam. Interesting. I believe it was, it was the laser beam, it was a laser beam that was frying the, frying the circuits or whatever it does. It could be the, the, the, the darkom system, which is fitted on on TF60 Chinooks or high-end birds or Air Force one is a directional infrared countermeasure and that's a laser that Detects the launch and the laser literally burns the seeker head to break the lock. You know, interesting Interesting also in a interview

Chris Miller, which was Trump's last secretary defense and he is now Contracting for some of these defense companies and says we're about this close from heaven that iron dome over the US. I don't know Maybe that would be that would be amazing in my in my travels I managed I managed to meet the guy that's that made iron dome possible in Israel and Is a hell of a story because his kids were in kindergarten with my with my buddy's kids and That the business was bankrupt and Rafael came to him and said

Build us the brain the operating, which will do this. And so, Iron Dome receives the incoming telemetry, the trajectory of where it was launched, where that missile or that rocket is headed, and it does the calculation in about a second and a half. Of where it is, and where it's gonna land, and it figures out if it's gonna land in open field, let it go. If it's gonna land, and it figures out if it's gonna land in an open field, let it go.

If it's gonna land near a school or apartment building, shoot it down, and it builds the firing system, the firing solution, that quickly, to shoot a incoming rocket with another rocket, and they've got the unit cost down to about $50,000 a shot. Damn. Which is, that's a great idea. And the next thing you'll try to do is, is to do that with a laser, which will be a lower cost shot.

But again, wait till it's smoky or foggy and again, advantage back to the attacker. Well, since we're on the tech subject, I know you have a new phone coming out. Well, yes. And we talk about, we talked about at the beginning, about the consolidation of American industries across the board. And whether it's airlines, insurance, food, one of the reasons the tech sector has gone so big, so fast is it's also, it was the most

unregulated space. And they were allowed to consolidate without limits. What's the way? So now you have Google controlling 90% of search. So they literally control your access and your search of data. You have Facebook, social media guys, the controlling 70 to 80% of all that messaging. When Zuckerberg paid $20 billion in what's app, he did that because every message, call, picture, whatever that passes through from what's app is analyzed by their algorithm to sell advertising. And that became very clear to me when I managed to piss off my wife. And she sent me a scorcher of a text on WhatsApp.

And for the next two weeks, she was getting endless advertising from divorce lawyers and from match.com. Van, are you kidding me? Absolute fact. And and then seeing what And then seeing what you have effectively a do-oply between Apple and Google. Apple about 30% of world market share, Google, the other 70% those are the two operating systems which control those phones. So if you're running a any Android today or any Apple iPhone, they know where you go, who you call, what you buy and what you browse.

The companies do. And they resell that data, you're at your data to advertisers. And even despite all the nonsense or the noise that they're saying, how are you, we respect privacy and all the rest? Your advertising ID follows you everywhere. Even if your phone is switched off, or if it's an airplane mode, it's still pinging Wi-Fi, it's still pinging towers, it knows exactly where you are.

And then seeing what happened with Big Tech deciding who could be on the app stores throwing them off and literally controlling and censoring speech. I said to a couple of buddies in mind because we had a project we were working on a cyber forensics thing and I said, let's pivot, let's we need to do a phone. An independent phone platform that is not subject to the to the whims of Google and Apple. And so if you've ever heard of Pegasus, I've not. It's an offensive cyber virus used for hacking phones. Okay. The guy that developed that is our CTO, but he did it not to be offensive. He did it as a way for a phone company to do remote phone service. They send you a text they click on it

Fix your phone and then leave when he became offensive He left and he went and built a very secure phone Which is still used by by governments today and then he went to build The phone that controls most of the world's pacemakers You can imagine you don't want a phone that you can hack if you're going to run a pacemaker with it. Yeah, no kidding. So we'll deliver the first 500 units next month.

It's our hardware. It's Android-based, but it's all our code. Our phone, not made in China, supply chain, not coming from China, with our operating system, with our own store, antivirus, VPN, and secure messenger. And look, if you're 16 years old and you posted what you had for breakfast on Instagram, it's probably not for you. But if you're an adult that cares about adult that cares about where you go as your business and it's not to be your your data is not to be traded on with everyone that's something to think about. So we'll cell phone for just under a thousand bucks comparable in speed, storage, camera quality to the highest end of what the other guys sell. But our operating system does not contain any of those hooks for harvesting and selling

your data. So it's a proprietary phone and hardware. Correct. Operating system, hardware, all the rest is called unplugged. And we're pretty excited about it. It also comes with an actual kill switch, because again, if you turn this phone off and you separate this, it separates the electronics

from the battery so that off is off. So you buy it for just under $1,000. The second year, you'll pay $10 a month and we guarantee that none of your data is collected, stored, analyzed or resold. You just don't wanna use other secure messaging apps like Signal or Threma or Telegram. That's available in our app store.

We even have- Is it necessary? Would it be necessary at all to have signal other than contacts? Nope. No, we have our own secure messenger. It works voice call, video call. And ours are our messenger generates a new encryption key every call. No, shit.

Yes. Incredible. No shit. Yes, incredible. And because it's our app store, it's not Apple's, it's not Google's, we even have a lot of the apps that are not allowed in those stores, like even an app for people that are dating app for people that are unvaccinated, for example, right?

Because the Silicon Valley Wizards team that was too controversial, so people that are in favor of free speech and freedom of expression and thought should find a residence here in what we're doing. When you use the messenger, if I, so let's say, how do I say this? Does it have to be phone to phone? What's it called unplugged? Unplugged. Does it have to be unplugged phone to unplugged

phone to get the secure? Our messenger also fits. You can put it on an iPhone or you can put it on any other Android right now. Those phones will still have an ad ID so if you're using that phone, that data will still be tracked but the phone call itself will be secure. Highly secure. So that phone to iPhone, that's secure. Yep. iPhone to iPhone not. What's happened? On plug messenger, we realize that a lot of people communicate through a lot of different means. And so we wanted our messenger to be compatible. We'll soon have a function where we can go from unplug messenger and push it to a signal, and you're only using signal.

But unplugged to unplugged is far away the most secure way you can communicate. We even have a dump picture that if someone says, unlock that phone and you can enter a code, don't lock it or you can enter another code, which wipes it. It wipes it 100%. Dawn, baby.

Go on. Nice. Nice. What? We had a question from the audience about the Patriot Act. Okay. Can you describe what the Patriot Act is? I think the Patriot Act was a well-intentioned but turns out awful, overreach, and awful overgranting of authorities for the federal government to dig into people's communications.

And I think it was it was passed in the recent memory of 9-11 which was shocking and alarming to a lot of people and The danger of these forever wars is that eventually all these tools get turned back on on the populace on citizens and unplugged is an answer to that, because I think the hegemony of big government and big tech has swung the pendulum of a surveillance state way too far in one direction. And we did this phone as a way for people to reclaim their communications and data privacy.

Short of that, I mean, you'll see lots of stories on any government agency. Heck, you can right now with a credit card and a thousand bucks by all the cell phone data on a certain neighborhood or a certain house. And you watch the advertising IDs that are attached to each of those Google and Apple phones, where they go, and in over a period of 30 days, you can build a pattern of life, and you know, where they go, when they go, who they go meet, et cetera. It's alarming, and that's not even a,

there's no phisal warrant or any warrant that's required for that, and that's done routinely. That's even how all anybody that was on the capital grounds on January 6. That's how they that's how they were all identified was who cell phones are registered to towers, what their IMEI's were and the cell phone data. We don't have an advertising ID and we have a ability to roll the IMEI. Man, that's incredible. And one of these coming out.

First 500 come in end of September and then we'll grow to a few thousand and we'll build. We're not a super venture capital backed company, meaning we're thin and lean and mean, but we're like the little engine that can. We're gonna get there. That's incredible. Unplug.com. We're gonna get there. That's incredible. Unplug.com.

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Alright Eric, we're back from the break this last segment, but we covered a lot of ground, a lot of what's going on in the world. A lot of what's going on in the country. How are we going to turn this ship around? Get it headed in the right direction. I think we need to insist that our candidates focus on making America competitive, that the elements that made the American Dream possible are still possible, because the more regulations that are on top of us and the less competition is bad, whether you're an entrepreneur or whether you're a labor guy. So this is something that even the most Democrat voting international brotherhood of electrical workers should be concerned about is, are there enough businesses competing so that he can spend his money effectively and efficiently and that he's not stuck with only one employer that can pay him, right? That's a, that is an issue,

competitiveness for entrepreneurs, for small and mid-side business is essential to everyone except the most highest elites. Do you think that there are enough, do you think there are enough people of that intelligence that can piece that together? It's on candidates to get to educate them, to make it that way. Look, our education system is really bad. Is, you know, I just saw a statistic before COVID, 2018 graduating every year from Baltimore,

only 11% of the graduates can read. And only 10% can do math at the level expected of a high school graduate. So you're saying the Baltimore City Schools, they're spending $18,000 a piece are graduating 90% illiterate, writing and math illiterate people. I can't think of anything that the Cluclux clan could devise to do a better job of keeping minorities down than giving them an absolute shit education.

And people need to wake up. I mean, even common sense, it's gone. Yes, it's gone. It's not gone. It's maybe diminished, but alternate means of communication, alternate means of conveying information, it's coming. And despite the efforts of big media and big government and that collusion, I mean, thank God Musk bought Twitter. It's going to free speech must be, must never be lost. So you have to be able to educate, you have to be able to debate, you have to be able to compete, and you have to

be able to bank. This idea of a central bank digital currency is exceedingly dangerous and must be resisted by all means necessary. Because if they can control your ability to spend any kind of medium exchange, then they truly have you by the balls. Then it becomes the embodiment of what China has with their social credit score, where, oh, another terrible factoid of the un-economic things that China is doing, preparing for a conflict with Taiwan, they have a huge shortage of blood supply. All the people with low social credit score, they can adjust their credit score by giving blood for basically government reserve blood banks.

We don't want anything like a social credit score, but that's even what our big tech mavens and banking are trying to push here between the black rocks and the vanguards with their ESG scores that they're imposing on any business that if they don't abide by whatever black rock wants, they get shut off from the capital markets. That is antithetical to America. And so again, it comes back to for me the most important thing We must restore competitiveness and do real antitrust enforcement We don't need an ESG enforcement part of the DOJ. We need an antitrust enforcement part of the DOJ How does the country unite?

You know, good times have a way of producing soft men, soft men produce hard times, and it comes back around. And I hope that America does not have to go through hard times to wake up and to be reminded of what, of what all the things we have to take a gratifying for. Regardless, even if you're a the average American, even the average poorest American still lives infinitely better than someone did a hundred years ago. Even the richest of the rich. That's fact. But I travel to a lot of the

real garden spots of the world to realize that the basics of governance really matter. And this is a competition of governance whether we want a free and independent republic or one that is absolutely controlled by a CCP-like mandated elite. and I will always bet on liberty. But it's that it's liberty but it's not without sacrifice. Do you think I think some of this division has come from God being ripped out of education. Sure, absolutely. Everyone has a hole in their soul. I think we all have a quest for something

that defines our role, our place in the world. And you can either fill that with fame, or popularity, or or power or you can fill that with faith in a Judeo-Christian faith, a Judec, an Islamic faith, or something that orders your place in the world compared to the divine. And the rejection of that, the kind of the problem in America has been people saying, I am God, and that they can make decisions without any consequences to themselves or others. And when we put ourselves on the place of equality with the deity, a whole bunch of problems stem from that.

I am, that was a, I'll never forget having to do the first death notifications of the guys that died working for BW and tried to provide them and the families with as much support as possible. And we even hired a chaplain. We hired the former chief chaplain of the Marine Corps, father George Putcher-Relli. He'd actually been on the ground in Beirut when the Marine Bombings was, Marine barracks was bombed in 83, full career as a Navy captain, but was the Chief Chapter in the Marine Corps, and I got him commissioned to come out of retirement

to be our company chaplain, and he was the design of a great chapel at Blackwater. Because I figured we'd given our guys the best colleagues, the best training, the best equipment, and I wanted to afford them the ability to have some kind of a spiritual understanding, a relation with their creator,

and we're gonna build a chapel, and instead of building that, the entire federal government came for us, and I ended up paying lawyers, and ended up selling the business, but that's an unfinished business for me. What was his name? Father George Puturelli.

What drew you to him? I looked for a strong old school priest that understood faith and he understood the challenges of wartime and ministering to the men and the challenges that they faced out there doing it. The challenges are put on their marriage, the challenges that it put on their relationship with their colleagues. And so we had two things at BW that were unusual for private company. We had a company master chief, a retired CEO master chief, Herschel Davis, old Vietnam vet. And you know,

he handled a lot of the good order and all the things that went with having lots of guys deployed. I did not know you were tied in with Herschel Davis. Of course. I did not know you were tied in with Herschel Davis. I did not know you were tied in with Herschel Davis. I did not know you were tied in with Herschel Davis. and all the things that went with having lots of guys deployed. I did not know you were tied in with Herschel Davis. Of course. That guy lived on my same block.

Really? Where I grew up. Yeah. Yeah, he lived on a corner lot and he always had people driving through his yard. He was always out putting traps and shit out in his yard to try. It sounds like Herschel. Yeah.

Herschel managed a spot, a remote spot that we managed for the government for many, many years. And he was the kind of the chief of that base. And that was perfectly in his strike zone. Yeah. I saw him on the Discovery Channel. And I was like, holy shit, that's my neighbor. And I went down to go see him and he had, he was gone.

It was just his wife there. But, wow, interesting. Do you still have contact with him? Of course. Talk to him every few weeks. That's been the greatest privilege of starting BW and managing it was the amount of colorful characters that we got to employ. And I'll never forget offloading the little birds when they first got to Baghdad and there were a bunch of vets from Black Hawk down that had just happened 10 years earlier.

They said Mr. P, thanks for giving us the chance to do this again, this is what we're good at. And they said, Mr. P, thanks for giving us the chance to do this again. This is what we're good at. And that was the culture we tried to build of stepping forward when the mission is required and finding a way to get it done. Wow. We need more of that in America.

Yes, we do. Yes, we do. Yes we do. Work. I really appreciate you coming out once it's great to see you and it is an honor to congrats on your success and I'm glad to be back. Thank you. Cheers. Thanks, cheers. The C.O. of the All-Secure Foundation, which assists special operations in active duty combat

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