Shawn Ryan Show - #79 Sean Webb - How Average Humans Can Look into the Future Through Consciousness | Part 2

Episode Date: October 18, 2023

Sean Webb is the author of "Mind Hacking Happiness" and through his work with the Monroe Institute, Webb has become one of the foremost authorities on remote viewing & consciousness. In part two of this episode, Webb details his time at the Monroe Institute and the programs they offer. Webb provides a full look at the growing body of research taking place at the institute. We also discuss the prospect of having host Shawn Ryan attempt remote viewing at the institute. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://lairdsuperfood.com - USE CODE "SRS" https://bubsnaturals.com - USE CODE "SHAWN" https://preparewithshawn.com Sean Webb Links: Website - https://mindhackinghappiness.com Volume I - https://www.audible.com/pd/Mind-Hacking-Happiness-Volume-I-Audiobook/B071W7BRFB?source_code=AUDFPWS0223189MWT-BK-ACX0-087885&ref=acx_bty_BK_ACX0_087885_rh_us Volume II - https://www.audible.com/pd/Mind-Hacking-Happiness-Audiobook/B074TYB2RM?source_code=AUDFPWS0223189MWT-BK-ACX0-093958&ref=acx_bty_BK_ACX0_093958_rh_us Pre-Order The Human Mind Owner's Manual - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7M1N36F The Monroe Institute - https://www.monroeinstitute.org Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mindhackinghappiness Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@mindhackinghappiness Please leave us a review on Apple & Spotify Podcasts. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website | Patreon | TikTok | Instagram | Download Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Previously on the Sean Ryan show. He's like, this came from a psychic. I'm like, yeah, he's like, you looked at it, and he's like, look at the report, and he's like, okay. So he wrote, total fantasy on top of the report and sent it back to Joe at me. The engineer said the sub can't survive a depth. It's way too big.

He's the only guy who thinks it's a sub. Yeah, well, your total fantasy launches in 112 days. Senate back to the Pentagon. Someone at the National Reconnaissance Office tasked a satellite to do a flyover and they snapped pictures of the red October submarine. I would imagine that sparked a lot of interest in an old viewing and robber gates. Earlier you would mention they put you in a room where it's

shielded from the radio signal radio wave. Why is that? Just to have control over the potential for signals to come in and out of the room to give you information. Let's take a quick break and when we come back let's get into some of the technology when they started implementing that. All right, Sean, we're back from the break. We're talking about your initial experience with remote viewing and without technologies. I wanted to talk to you about what are some of the technologies that they implemented and

how did that improve your remote viewing experience. Yeah, well, they use the binarole technologies that they developed there at Monroe because they invented binarural beats, right? We have one frequency in one ear and one frequency in the other. You're in the difference between the two. Your brain then has to rectify and it turns on special areas in your brain that can then allow for weird experiences or cool experiences to occur in expansions of consciousness. I just got back from a discovery program

where they put a bunch of EEG sensors on your head and look at your brain waves while you're meditating and then put signals in your ears to try to figure out what's going on and actually watch your brain in real time to see what's going on with your Delta waves, your Theta waves, Alpha waves, Beta waves, and then at the top gamma waves.

And the way they graph and they make cool little designs and whatnot of shapes that can signify you in different levels of conscious awareness. And it's really cool stuff that they have operating up there. I talked to the folks up there and they would love for you to come by and experience it for yourself. Really? Yeah. On their dime, just come up and take a couple of courses and meet Joe McMonogal, the remote viewer, and see for yourself. Because a lot of things, like I'm going to try to sit here and tell you, you know, here's my experience, and here's, you know, but it's better for you just to go there and see for yourself

and actually dig deep into your own consciousness and what you can do with your mind based on the technologies that they're assisting you with because they've been doing this stuff for decades and they're really good at it. So they're willing to have me go to the Monroe Institute, test my remote viewing abilities. Oh yeah, I am down.

This is happening. This is definitely happening. I would love to do that. Yeah, you have to. I mean, to talk about is one thing, but you really gotta dive in and like you wanna experience what it's like. And you know, the things that you see feel

sense in your own consciousness connected with, you know, doing remote viewing or doing aness expansion experience. That's one of those things where you just got to dive in and do it, you know, I would. I am 110% going to take you up on. So I've been rowing, stood here, I come. This is happening.

That's awesome. I'm pumped. Yeah, that's exciting. Yeah, I'm yes, yes, yes, this is I'm going. I am going. We'll talk we'll talk after the show. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, no problem. Thank you. So so we talked a little bit about the technologies. Let's talk about we talked on the break a little bit about going technologies. Let's talk about, we talked on the break, a little bit about going into the future,

looking into the future, but it's right now, from what we've discussed thus far, everything to include, Joe, with Monaco, all of the remote viewing stuff that we've, well, I guess not, the, this space station that crashed, that would have been in the future. But most of what we're talking about is actually in the present. What is this diagnosis that's happening, what is the pain, this woman's feeling in

me, what is the picture in the envelope. But also, remote viewing is also looking into the future. Yeah. And there's actually a really cool study that was done because, I mean, there's so many people out there listening right now saying, oh, this is a complete bullshit. And there are a lot of scientists out there are like, okay, well, you know, show me a peer-reviewed published study that shows that this stuff can occur. And, you know, even with a geometric monogole, the argument is, n equals 1 isn't really

proof of anything. Like one guy might have amazing abilities for whatever reason to get it to the bottom of this. We need to study it a lot more. And it doesn't even prove that more than one person has this. There was actually a really cool study that I want to tell you about that proves that average humans can look into the future.

And this is without a doubt, like beyond six sigma proof, which is science's gold standard of this is a phenomena, that type of statistical proof that human beings can literally look into the future. And it was on an iron clad study that even the most vehement skeptics weren't able to poke any holes in. And it started with a study that was done on what's

called priming. So they put a bunch of people in a chair in front of a computer system. And the computer ran the whole experiment, randomized the whole thing, selected out of a database, grabbed images and words that were connected with a study that they wanted to do regarding putting a picture of, let's say, a kitty in front of somebody.

And so they show you this picture, this kitty on the screen, and then a few seconds later, they give you the option to select cute or ugly binary choice. So you press button, one, or button two, and then they measure you because it's a computer, they can measure down to the split second, a hundredth of a second, how fast you're selecting your word associated with the image. But then they make it complicated one step further. For one thirty of a second, before they even show you the picture of the kitty, randomly selected over the two words, they will flash one of the words in front of you that you're conscious of wearing this can't pick up because we

can't see one thirty of a second, but the subconscious does pick it up. So your subconscious mind sees the one thirty of a flash of the word right before they show you the kitty. And it's either cute or ugly that they flash before. Now if it's cute, you'll select cute faster. If you think kitties are cute, you might hate kiddies. I don't know. You might say, I'll catch a ugly, right? They control for all that. But basically, if they flash ugly before the kitty,

then it will take you a split second longer to select cute. And this is a perfect study because there's no study investigator and human interactions. They can't, there's no human to and human interaction, so there's no human to human interface interaction that can occur there to where you're skewing the results. There's no clue about what the selection needs to be from any other source. It's just a computer running the experiment.

So this is a, from a psychological science this perspective, this is a perfect study because it's only a human being being measured by a computer with a completely randomized set of data That's being placed in front of the human and measuring how fast they can react to something based on a stimuli that they put right before The whole process goes through. Okay. Okay I Help me understand how this is looking into the future. Okay This next study switches it around.

So this next researcher who wanted to investigate whether or not this primer had any influence on these people in the future, he took the primer from over here at the beginning of the process and he simply put it over here at the end of the future. He took the primer from over here at the beginning of the process and he simply put it over here at the end of the process. So then the new experiment became, I'm going to show you a picture

of a kiddie or whatever, and then I'm gonna give you two words and then at the end, in that one-thirty-th of a second flash, after you have already made your choice, after you've already pressed your button and made your decision, we're going to flash the primer afterwards. So there should be absolutely no way, if you're looking at the picture, selecting your word and then getting a primer afterwards, that primer should influence

the speed at which you make your decision and click your button on, which, you know, word you want to choose, right? Should have absolutely no effect except it did. The primer flashed after your decision altered the timing in which you could select the cute or ugly word choice in the same way that it did when you put it before. And not only did it occur, it occurred in 90 different experiments in 33 different independent

labs in 14 different countries to over a six sigma significance, the Disco Significance. So they basically proved in that set of studies, in this meta study, that's published at National Institute of Health, by the way, on the website, that humans, the consciousness of humans, like they don't do this consciously, but something in their subconscious, looks into the future, sees that primer, and it affects the speed at which they can select cuter ugly based on the image that they've been given,

and yet the primer happens after the fact that they've taken the choice. It still affects their speed at which they make the choice, which means they're looking into the future. So hold on, hold on. So, with no prompt, what are we calling it a prompt? A primer. A primer with no primer on the front or the back.

Well, they have one on the front or the back. The first set of experiments was on the front, and it affected people as they expected it to. But they put it on the back, and they didn't expect and it affected people as they expected it to. But they put it on the back and they didn't expect it to affect people. And then it did. But the constant would be without a primer, correct?

They have control groups that were without a primer. Yeah, that's what I'm not. Yeah, they had both experiments out of control group where they didn't have a primer. So if the primer on the back end, you have one without it, one with it, you're faster with the one on the back end. And the primer happens after the decision has been made. Yeah. In the congruent way that the primer would want to influence you, if it was put in the front, the same type of results happen when they put it on the

back. And that proved that, and that proved that basically consciousness was tied into non-locality that quantum mechanics, right? Because quantum mechanics is something that is independent of space and time. It's not affected by time. So what that's proving to us or what that's suggesting to us, not proving, proving is a very strong word. What that's suggesting to us is that consciousness can reach into the future and see a future bit of data and influence your decision in the now. 90 studies proved it.

Wow. How about the past? No studies that I know of. I mean, how to structure that type of experiment, I don't know. But that's a suggestion that consciousness goes out beyond the body. So, another piece of science that can help prove that consciousness may be beyond the body and in a field of energy that just is at the fundamental core of who and what we are and the universe that exists around us, was an experiment they did with a slime mold. Now a slime mold is a number of single cell demoeba that come together in a colony that creates this slime mold that then moves around together as a bunch of single-celled creatures with identical DNA. So it's a crowd of amoebas. It's a crowd of amoebas that work in conjunction with each other. And then, but they take on different functions within the slime mold itself. So these single-celled amoebas start to come together and create like internal organs

that have different functions. That these slime mold, I mean, over here do different things. Then these slime molded me over here do, and including an immune system response where 1% of these individual creatures go around swallowing up the pathogens that find themselves within the slime mold

and they drop out of the bottom of the slime mold, self-sacrificing. They die and the pathogen dies along with them, which is an altruistic act at a single-celled organism scale. They throw themselves on a grenade for the rest of the slime mold, at a single- single cell organism scale. So they did an experiment with these things. And they put some oatmeal in the path of, there's a Japanese researcher,

so they use the population centers around Tokyo, Japan. And they had this train system that would ship people around that the engineers put together with computers, that group of engineers, and they let this slime mold go on these little piles of oatmeal. And what slime molds will do is they'll build a little tube system to ship the nutrients around when they find the food so that everybody gets fed. And so it spreads out and it starts finding these piles of oatmeal and starts creating these tube systems.

And within 24 hours, the single-celled organisms of this slime mold had a tube system that looked exactly like the Japanese rail system that the engineers in the computer had built, except they took millions of dollars and months to build the train design for the computer systems to put together. The engineers did. The slime mold did it in 24 hours. It did it in a more efficient fashion than the train system wound up being and was more efficient and would have cost last money had the Japanese engineers built it that way

that the slime mold built it. So these are single cell organisms that figured out a better trained system for Tokyo, Japan, than Tokyo, Japan had actually built. Where does that intelligence come from, except below the level of the cells themselves coming up into the cells? Holy shit. So that's another pretty good proof that consciousness

is something that is more of a field of intelligence that we tap into. It certainly gives us animation. It certainly gives us the ability to experience things, right? We have this body and if our brain gets blown off or whatever, it certainly limits our ability and we have brain damage and malformations, it certainly restricts our ability to experience consciousness, but it doesn't come from this brain. It comes through this brain and the consciousness is actually something that's out in the field. This is why things like remote viewing can be real. This is why things like ESP and prediction of action can be real. and prediction of action can be real.

Reaching out of ZSP. Extra sensory perception. What is that? Psychic ability, like being able to know, under which cup the ball is when you have no idea what it is, kind of a remote viewing functionality. Or psychic ability, interfacing with spirits that can make that possible from a scientific standpoint. Crazy crazy.

So do you think we all share the same consciousness? So if consciousness is a field energy, quantum mechanics, the theory behind it is that there are a number of field energies that come together and they're all one field. It's all one thing throughout the one universe. So electron field has one field for the whole universe. But then there's a local expression of the electrons in this chair, for instance. Like there's a probability that this electron's going to be in this place with this movement on this atom, et cetera. And then it becomes real when you interact with it, when an observer is present, the wave of function collapses,

et cetera. So there's a one big field of electrons, but then there's the local expression of the electron right here. I think if consciousness is a non-local field, it's going to do the same thing. So yes, we can share the one big consciousness, which is the consciousness of the field itself, but then there are local expressions of our consciousness that come through our brain and become our individual existences. So while you can be you and I can be me, we're sharing that same conscious field that connects us. And the only difference between you and me in that scenario is that you started with your physiology and you had your experiences and you had your life story and you came from wherever you came from.

And I came through my experiences, my life story, my physiology. And so in reality, I can see you as another version of me that simply has your bag of tricks. And I'm just another version of you that came through my experiences. Have there been any other experiments on this? Yeah, some. Like the Institute for Neuetic Sciences is all over this stuff from a scientific perspective. That was started by Edgar Mitchell, who was an astronaut, who went to space and had a unit of experience, one with everything, wanted to put some science behind that and started the Institute for Neuatic Sciences.

And they're doing stuff like looking for gene expressions in DNA for psychic abilities. And they're finding results. They're finding results. Yeah. Like the stuff that they, the first studies that they've done are pioneered studies that they need to replicate. And you know, the science isn't conclusively anything, but they've had the first foray into studying whether or not they're gene expressions

that correlate with psychic ability, they've found a connection. So we may not, you know, we may have a physiological switch to turn on and turn off to be able to have extra conscious awareness. This stuff is fascinating. Yeah, it's really cool. I mean, we don't know,

we don't have all the answers to all this stuff, but it's cool to explore and discuss because I mean, there are things in us as humans that we don't explore and we can do that we just don't do. And so we don't have the benefits of them because you're just not doing them, but we can do them right now.

There's stuff that everyone listening to this can do. Wow. This is, wow. What other kind of courses they offer in another Monroe Institute? Well, I just got done with the Discovery Program, which scans your brain and shows you your brain waves in deep meditation and through the experiences that they give you. They also have courses where you can go in and try to connect with extraterrestrial entities. That kind of stuff, because if we're connected with consciousness, that means they're likely connected with consciousness too.

And you can reach out and say, hi, non-locally, through being wherever you are at the moment that you are and the place that you are and reaching out and saying, hi, because non-locality means there's no limitation of space and time to get a message through. You can go out and look for lost souls that haven't quite made it to heaven yet and lead them where they were confused, lost their life suddenly, or whatever it is, and they're wandering around.

They don't know where they're going. Find them and kind of hand hold them to this central location where they can then zip off to their final destination. Like they do cool, crazy, weird, awesome stuff like that. But that has real world evidence of, like, they would go in and they'd talk to someone who was lost. And this person who was lost would give them information about they were on a ship and they were information about they were on a ship and they were a chef for a galley crew and that the ship's name was XYZ and they grew up in this

specific Little village in Ireland and all that stuff would check out like they did the research after the fact and all the information That someone that they would interface with would give them all this information. And then it would check out historically that there was a ship of that name and it did sail from the port that they said it would sail from and that there was a village that had that family name in it and all this other stuff. It's like, you know, you look for, if you done any of those courses, I have it. You're strictly remote viewing right now. I've done remote viewing. I did a gateway Which I highly suggest those are amazing because that Gets you into the technology of by no beats and what the technology can do regarding stimulating different portions of your brain to expand your consciousness

To basically kind of have a psychedelic experience without the psychedelics through technology, amazing, amazing stuff. And this last one I did, they did the brain scan stuff in my brain while I was meditating, which is really cool to be able to see the, like you have these experiences, right? You're wearing these headphones and you're experiencing these signals in your brain that are turning on different things

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Do you find any correlation between me and you've talked a lot about psychedelics offline and pure too. In the last episode, do you find any correlation between some of the clarity and intuition that psychedelics can bring you with some of the stuff you're learning at Marooas to absolutely. Could that supercharge what you're...

Yeah, I think it's a different approach to the same location. Like when you introduce an exogenous compound in psychedelics to your body, it's gonna have a certain effect on what your mind is doing based on how it's affecting your brain, right? The receptors that are being filled by the chemical that are triggering different consciousness

events within your mind, et cetera, and you have insights that are meaningful often and different feelings that you don't normally feel when you don't have that chemical influencing you. Technology can do the same thing. Just in a little different fashion, the experience is a little different, but it's similar, but it also delivers insight and can get you into that space where the same type of thing is happening in your brain except your brain is supplying the chemicals that fill the receptors

because of the stimuli that you're putting into your brain with the signals in your headphones. So it's similar, it's different, but it's still different from your regular everyday awareness where you're driving around going to lunch or whatever. And it can certainly deliver insights. Like this last week, I went into a meditation and it's a little personal, but there was some stuff between myself and my wife where we were just miscommunicating on this one thing.

We have a great relationship. We don't usually have any problems, but there was one thing that was kind of just vexing me a little bit. And I went into that meditation with these signals in my ear and I was able to get insight on how to handle that better than I had been. And those technologies helped me gain that awareness

where I don't think I want to come up with that on my own. I mean, you've experienced psychedelics that I have too, and we understand the different ways we can see things when those chemicals are filling the receptors that they are, and they're allowing us to see things in a different way. The technology up there in Rome helped me do the same thing. Interesting. Yeah, I get, I can get extremely intuitive when I am on psychedelics. Yeah. And, you know, it, I'm always looking for the scientific explanation on why that happens, why I'm able to tap into,

I guess I would call it a higher consciousness, when I'm in the middle of psychedelic journey and it's been, I mean, it happens every single time. It's like everything's mapped out. I mean, it happens every single time. It's like everything's mapped out. And if you heard any good scientific explanations for that, I'm really interested in this, I don't know enough about it, and it might be way over my head,

but this quantum entanglement stuff is really fascinating to me. Well, funny to say that I had an opportunity, John Closier, won the Nobel Prize last year, bought me a way too many beers. I met him at the Berkeley Eye Club where he says, he has this, a couple of sailboats that he sails on the weekends and he races and regottas and stuff. And I went to talk to him and hang out with him. And we had, we had a lot of beers over on multi-hour conversation. There's no doubt that non-locality in quantum mechanics is weird to the point

that we can't really understand it. And the thing that he won the Nobel for by the way, he was looking to disprove in tanglement on John Bell's equations, rather than prove it. And he wound up proving it, and then they gave him the Nobel for it. That was a complete surprise to him, because he thought he was gonna disprove it.

Because he was a fan of Einstein's interpretation and all the stuff. But do you have a good way of breaking that down? For quantum mechanics? Yeah. No. Well, I mean, here's the thing. My theory on it, I've got an interesting theory that, you know,

some people are fan over, and other people aren't. If consciousness is also a non-local field that we have not yet named, like if consciousness is one of those things that goes out infinitely and is attached to all the other fields, then consciousness is easily explained as the thing that collapses the wave function. And when you look at something, it reacts differently than when you don't look at it, because your loop and connection back into consciousness reaches non-locally into the collapse of that wave function and makes it happen.

When you're accessing that information, when you're not accessing that information, you know, it doesn't have to render into that place of actually being a particle. It can stay a probability. That's just a path theory of mine, but it makes sense that, you know, we're starting to prove, you know, psychic ability exists. We're starting to prove that looking into the future exists through these almost irrefutable studies that a computer is controlled.

Well how would you explain all of that, including the collapse of the wave function when you're looking at something or not looking at something besides having consciousness be a non-local field that's all tied into the whole thing. Because for me that would be like if in video games there's this thing called occlusion calling that allows the computer to operate a huge environment in a 3D game, right? It only shows you what you're looking at, just like quantum mechanics. There may be a huge world of 3D map in front of you, but it's not gonna render the whole thing. It's only gonna render what you can see

so that it can have enough cycles to show you frame number two, because if it's got an infinite universe, if it's got a render the whole universe, you're never gonna get to frame number two. But if it got a like an infinite universe, if it's got a render the whole universe, you're never going to get to frame number two. But if it only has to show you what you see, then all of a sudden it's showing a bunch of frames per second that you can interact with. And that's what they do in video games. That's kind of to me how the universe works.

Where there's an infinite possibility of everything going on all at once, but the only thing that gets rendered into matter is the thing that you're interacting with at the moment. I don't know. I'm probably totally wrong. And everybody who understands physics is hell, I better be like, eat it. I'm gonna put a dumb ass. I'll share a little bit in the comments, don't worry.

You're all right, by the way. Everyone who's telling me you're wrong, you're right. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. Well Sean, I think one, I cannot wait to get to the Monroe Institute and meet Joe. Yeah, you got to say. I cannot wait for that to happen.

And I really hope we can get him here. That would be that would be a hell of an interview. Yeah, I think so. In a real honor. But um, but it was a real honor to interview you for the second time. And thank you for sharing all that information. And I have a feeling we'll be seeing you again on this show. So if you'll come. Yeah, absolutely, man. Maybe after I get to the Monroe Institute,

yep, I'm sure I'm gonna have a lot more questions. So hopefully I have the capability. Yeah. It kind of makes me nervous. I don't want to go there and don't be nervous. Everybody's got it to a certain degree. Some people are better than others. I mean, there's no question that, I mean, people like Joe are amazing remover viewers.

I got to meet Lynn Buchanan, who is an amazing remover viewer who George Clooney actually played Lynn in the movie Men Who Stared Goats, right? And while everybody makes fun of that movie, I think it's brilliantly humorous. That's an actual program, and that was a successful Intel gathering operation. Lynn's another one of those guys who's just freaking amazing at looking at something and being able to give you the detail of it. And there's some folks who aren't as good at it. But I mean, just like anything else, LeBron James proved that, you know, you can score 7,000 or whatever points in a lifetime

of a career basketball. And he's the only one who's proved it so far. Other people can't shoot a basket to save their life. So there's gonna be people who are better at it and not so good at it, based on their physiological ability. But everyone can try to take a shot. Well. But everyone can try to take a shot. Well, I'm going to try to take a shot. So, you know, I mean, I told you, I think it was

at dinner last night, maybe it was a lunch, but I mean, I feel a lot of intuition. And I can't explain it all. I've talked about several different occasions on a show here and there throughout, you know, whatever we have right now. We're sitting at 57 shows. I can't remember which ones I've talked about them on, but it happens so often where I'll be thinking of something or I'll say something or I'll throw something out verbally into the world. it happens, that person call, it's, there's too many coincidences happening and it happened, it happens to me so much that I've said,

each one of my, I've sat both my parents down separately and ask them if they have had any of these experiences or or if they're all going and and what they say well they looked at me like I was crazy and they said no but but that doesn't that's not going gonna keep me from exploring because I want something that's going on. Yeah. And I want to know what it is. Yeah. And I feel like I'm hoping I'll get some answers

at the Benro Institute. So thank you, thank you for the invite. No problem. 100% going. Yeah. So awesome. Yeah. Can't wait.

I can't wait to hear your report after you come back. I hope you're there I've been amazing. I hope you're there. Left or are you gonna go into any of these other programs? Do you think? I'm gonna try out The out of body experience one that they have in July set up So I'm gonna go up there again here real soon and see if I can pop out of my body. I've never done that before But there's a there's a sense from the people who have done so that it's more real than their physical reality that they experience

when they're in their body. And they can, wherever they think about they wanna go, they immediately go there and experience what's going on. And then the people who are in that location will report weird things going on associated with that person. Like, somebody told me they said, well, I popped back home and see what was going on there.

And I was able to tell where my wife was. And she was there, according to her report, of where she was in the house. And what she was doing, that he witnessed there. And that her screensaver or something on our computer froze on a picture of him on her computer where it was supposed to go from picture to picture to picture to picture, it just froze on it and then wouldn't change. So like weird stuff like that.

Wow. Yeah. And you know, that's full of those kind of stories. And if consciousness is a non-local quantum mechanics thing, then that kind of stuff can happen. Like, and we need to get a better grasp on it if we want to take advantage of it all. Man, this is going to take me down a lot of raps.

I can't wait. Me neither. Well Sean, seriously, again, it's an honor to have you here. I love our conversations. I can't wait to see again, and best of honor to have you here. I love our conversations. I can't wait to see again, and best of luck. Thank you, bro. And everything will be linked below. But yeah, safe travels back home.

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