Shawn Ryan Show - #82 Luis Chaparro - Navy SEAL and Journalist Discuss Combatting Cartels with a Psyop | Part 2

Episode Date: November 8, 2023

Luis Chaparro is a Journalist specializing in narcos, cartels, and immigration. This is his third appearance on SRS where he brings the most up-to-date information on the growing crises south of the border. In part two, Luis outlines a staged and deliberate plan to defeat the cartels–a psyop. Shawn and Luis discuss this strategy in detail, harkening back to Ryan's experiences in the CIA. Chaparro also uncovers a new drug crisis that is overtaking the already disastrous fentanyl epidemic. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://lairdsuperfood.com - USE CODE "SRS" https://puretalk.com/ryan https://moinkbox.com/shawn https://betterhelp.com/shawn Luis Chaparro Links: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/luiskuryaki Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@luischaparro Please leave us a review on Apple & Spotify Podcasts. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website | Patreon | TikTok | Instagram | Download Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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That morning I started getting a lot of messages on my phone. And I read it and I said like, Hey, there's a lot of things going on in Kuliekan right now. Kuliekan is crazy. There's a lot of like narco blockade. So they were like setting up trucks and vehicles to block roads around Kuliekan and saying, they're on fire. So I was like, yeah, they're probably doing an operation against someone big.

I had previously had a band by the Cinalo Cartel from going to Cinaloa. Or it's all the way, they were still like burnt trucks, burned buses, like hand grenades all over. It was a war zone up there. So I found a hole in the wire I had on the wall and I literally jumped over in the hole and inside his house and started recording. I had my phone in a GoPro.

And inside was wires on like heavy like 50 calls all over, blood all over man. I was like stepping in sticky blood all over. You broke into the son of El Chappo's house. Yeah, dude, and he was absolutely crazy. Of course he did. All right, Luis, we're back from the break. We're having a very interesting discussion about how to break up the car tell network. And you had brought up, divide and conquer using propaganda, maybe a sigh up.

And man, I want to go into this. I mean, this is, I think that's the most legitimate solution that I've heard yet. And I mean, it's already, we're already seeing the effects of this in the United States. And then Russia and China are definitely a hundred percent involved in a Cyopor with the United States. And we're seeing it with bots, we're seeing it with hackers, we're all kinds of things are happening and look at what's happening.

You know, it's race divided. All these different hot topics are being, are being kind of crammed down our throats and it's causing this massive division within the country and it's, I mean, as much as I hate to say that they're seeing massive amounts of success. And so what you're saying is we should be utilizing the exact same thing on the cartels. On criminal organizations? Yes, I think that's genius because in the previous interviews that we've had, I mean, these guys have big egos. Yeah. And, and you know, you know, how I came to think of that, I don't know if that's something that will work or not,

or like the consequence of that, because I think that could bring Mexico to a nougly face before he gets better. But the way I started thinking of it is like, these guys did the exact same thing to the Mexican government, right? At some point we had the Mexican army at a pedestal. We thought highly of the Mexican army.

They're like not corrupt. They are actually looking for their security. They sacrifice a lot. They're just great soldiers, you know. Then they started this campaign, this propaganda against the military, that they are corrupt. They started putting out video, they started putting up, you know, like, comunicados, which is basically pressers from the cartel, Narko Paners, saying, the whole, the head of these faction of the military in Tinaloa is with us, is working with us,

in blah, blah, blah, blah. And what does that make you think of the military? It doesn't, it doesn't make you think or wonder about the cartel, right? Makes you wonder, oh, so the military guys probably are not as good as we thought. They're probably not the ones having our backs. They're just as corrupt as anyone. And then you kind of like stop believing in the army and that destroys them. Because every time they want to go into a town, they're going to face resistance by locals, right?

No, all those are, these guys are the fucking bad guys. We'd rather be with a fucking cartel than the Mexican government. They're just thieves with a plate with a badge. How would you do it? How would you create the Siam? I think, I think there, to be perfectly honest, I think there's been attempts to do it, specifically with the Cinalocartel. Think of, and well, with the Kaleysko Cartel,

you can write, think of this. There's been a rumor widespread every once and then. Every time I post a video, a story, a photo, talking about the Cinalocartel or those chapitos, whatever. There's a bot, one or two, or several several talking about how the mayo, some bad end, the chapitos are fighting and they don't like each other. And the real man, it's the mayo.

They're not the real guys, it's the local chapitos. No, the truth is the local cartel, the mayo is the big boss. They start beefing and they start creating this division that is going into the f***ing cartel. Even now, like, their henchmen, their own people started talking shit about the other group, right? Yeah, he's the old man, but we're the good guys. Now, he's this spoil kids, we are all Mario some bad, I'm working with you. Huge. So I think there is already something going on. If it's by the sign, by someone, whatever, I don't know.

If it's not, I think that's a great opportunity. I mean, I think I know how, I mean, I guess I don't, I can't say it for certain, I wouldn't, this is the direction I would go in, but this seems, I mean, if I were to do this, where I would start, is I would not start saying this cartel hates this cartel, I wouldn't do it like that. The way I would do it is I would start creating fake busts.

And so if X cartel has this territory and Y cart cartel has this territory, well then I'm going to create a narrative in a news story that says Y cartel got busted producing a massive amount of fentanyl that's never been produced before in this territory where they shouldn't be. Or they're selling fentanyl in this territory in the United States, which is these guys territory. Or we're talking about avocado farms, jellyfish. I would start just creating narratives where we busted a cartel,

who's, so let's say, cinnamon-low cartels in charge of lemons. And new generation cartel is still in fentanyl. I would create a news story narrative that has new generation cartel dabbling in lemons. Because then Sinaloa sees that. That's been happening. And I think, again, I think I told you these

the last time I was here, I think they, it's because of my position as a journalist with contacts on media and putting out stories. I think they're trying to use that, you know, to do that kind of stuff. Like whoever that is, if it's like, jeet or not, I know that our child's are communicating, they operate like that.

That's how they are dividing and caring, right? Like different chairs, or different places. Like the last time there was a huge bust of fentanyl, an fentanyl laugh. It has a lot of fake stickers with a face of a manual sunbatada to make probably people like me believe that that was exactly what you're saying that that was a bust on a Mario Sambadas laboratory, right? Of Fentany, but who sent that over? That was those chapitos. Oh, chapitos saying like, it's a Mario.'s all Mario. It's all Mario's, you know, go after him and leave us fucking alone. He's putting on some weight. I just literally as

of this break, I just published a story with with voice about these alleged halt that those chapitos order in the production of fentanyl is in aloea, they hang a lot of new banners saying it's prohibited to produce fentanyl in Sinaloa. We're going to kill you if we find you doing this shit. What is that? If not, a very basic and primitive attempt to do a side up against people, right? Saying like, hey, we're not doing fentanyl.

We're the good guys. And little the first comment is a bot with two followers on my Twitter saying, it's Ilma Yo-Sambada, that's territorial film, I use some bad putting in fentanyl. That shit is happening. And also, I think we touched superficially last night about if El Mensho really exists, right, the leader of the new generation Kalisukartel. It's been years, probably a decade since his last photo. We've been hearing his boys popping up here and there, but within AI, super easy to replicate a voice.

We don't even know that's him. It's super easy to start a whole thing in Kertel that it is a sign up, right? It's like does the Kalisokon new-terrestrial cartel that it's a sire. Right? It's like does the chalice con uterus or cartel really exist or is that a sire? Because you see the soldiers, you never see the higher ups, you never see who's leading, you never see people like a chapel that he was arrested a couple of times and he was like escaping prisons. He'll make you some bad at giving out an interview with Julio Shetter from Processo Magazine,

those chapitos, very out there. They even had their own socials at some point. The leaders of the Calisco News Generation Cartel, those guys are dressed up properly as a f***ing army. They know of strategy, they know of trends, they know of weapons, they know how to weaponize a drone, IEDs, and they have this mythical leadership called El Mencho, that we don't know if it's still alive or dead, and that's dividing that cartel.

Half of that cartel is saying, is that, and half of his same cartel saying, no, he's pretty much alive. I mean, that's just, it's, I've told you, I've been interviewing, everybody's so far behind the news cycle. And I've been, like I said, it's been election season, or it is election season. I've been interviewing Paul Tushan here and there, you know, and I've

had some, I just, I've had some really bright minds on this show, talking about how they would could combat this stuff. And, you know, DeSantis wants to send in the military. You know, a lot of these guys are saying, let's send in the military to handle this. Now, in my opinion, yes, we could absolutely destroy the cartels. I mean, if you have ever seen a special operations unit function at in combat, good luck, buddy. You know, like, I think that's a lot of different different variations unit function in combat. Good luck, buddy.

You know, like, I don't care who you are, we are going to come out on top. I mean, if we are that aspect of the military is top everything about the US military's top notch, but that's specifically, I mean, when it went, no. It's just, we're gonna come out on top. I think that's, I think that we could destroy them. At least the arm branch of our organization.

I like all the henchmen and so that. I think we would come out on top with every fight that we pick. Let me put it that way. Then I interviewed Eric Prince, and I was all about that. You know, when I talked about that with the Santas all about that. I talked about that with DeSantis. I think I had talked about that with Vivek, maybe. And then Eric Prince came on and he said, and he made a great point, you know,

that I had not thought of. He goes, what do we, he goes, absolutely, that's not gonna work. He goes, apparently nobody's learned anything from Afghanistan, what happens? You know, everybody says, oh, cut the hood off the snake, get the top guy. Well, we got the top guy, I don't know how many times,

throughout the past 20 years of the top guys. And I think number two, Al-Qaeda, had about a two week life expectancy, which means every two weeks, another one is rotating in. Then he talked about, well, we can't just go down there and bomb them and bomb the, you know, the lowest element, which has the most people, which would be the soul armies, because then you would be killing innocent women and children. And so his plan, what he thought would be good

would be to take this fight to China and basically cut off the supply, cut off the chemist that's sending down there. But that information is two years old, at least. I mean, you had that information two years ago. I think the siop is the, that's the play. I think no one's really thinking about a siop because we tend to think that this is a war that is being fought over in the

streets with guns. But we forget that these guys have a lot of what I told you the last couple of times I've in here, a lot of social basis. They are in the hats of the people, they are in the hats of a whole population of whole territory, you know. But at the same time, that's the weakest point. They are egomaniacs. They have a lot of, you know, issues on their heads, on their minds, from what they've seen, from what they do, from believing that they started out from nothing

and became the kings of the world, having much money from, you know, out of nothing. You know, a couple of days they made millions of dollars and other top of the game stuff. And I mean, that's their weakest point of course, right? That's, I don't wanna say the wrong way, but that's sort of my way in with discriminations. It's not something that I show up by whatever.

It's, I get to their heads, I get to their minds, I get to their, I tell get to their minds, I get to their, I tell them what they want to hear. And they show me what I want to see. And, you know, and that's why this is ongoing. And probably that's why I've been able to go in and out several times with different organizations. Not without trouble, right?

Like they've threatened me before it's shit. But that has worked for me in the past, just for reporting. But imagine for a foreign army to win that. Yeah. Great thing to them from the inside. Man, I'm just blown away. I mean, that's a great idea.

I mean, you could sit there and really solve this problem and just watch them eat each other alive. Yeah, and as I was telling you before, I think it could get bad for Mexico before it gets good. Cause this is gonna start in ugly war between them inside their own factions, inside their own core, probably inside their own families, and that's going to hurt. I mean, this is what it seems to me that these guys love it when you come around.

They know they're going to get publicity. They like hanging out with you. You've told me that they love this show. I mean, what are they? Do you get any like when this goes out, we're talking about how to break up the cartels in Mexico, like the top cartels. What's the conversation going to be like when you return there and they listen to this and they're saying, are they gonna ask you, like, are you talking about how to break us up? Because, I mean, if you get broken up,

you're out of the job. I'm not putting up bullshit, you know, I'm not lying. This is an honest thought I have. This is me thinking, this is me who I am. I'm transparent like that. I can tell you what I'm thinking all the time. I don't believe in an army, in a foreign army, showing up and killing people.

And if that was my talking point right now, telling you, like, yes, man, like we can send a fucking army and kill all of those, and that's how you're gonna get rid of them. They're gonna tell, you're gonna tell, everybody's gonna tell that I don't believe in that shit. That's not something I really believe. So that's gonna, what are they gonna think about that? They're gonna think like, why is gonna tell them that I don't believe in that shit. That's not something I really believe. So that's gonna, what are they gonna think about that?

They're gonna think like, why is he playing like that? Why is he saying that kind of bullshit? That's bullshit. He knows that's bullshit. It's probably more smart than that. That's gonna, that's gonna probably have consequences. They're probably saying like, what the fuck are you talking about man?

Suddenly they army to kill us. You know, that's not a fucking thing, you know, like you. Yeah. But I'm saying it's honestly transparently saying like, this guys have big egos. This guys have weak minds when it comes to operating inside their minds, right? They have strong minds to take a lot of shit from outside impulses, right? Killing people, holding up to information,

it being tortured blah, blah, blah, blah. But when it comes to their family, their own, how they see themselves, how they perceive themselves, they lack a lot of self respect, a lot of self-love, a lot of that kind of shit. That's the nature of a criminal, right? You lack a lot of self-built insight. I mean, I don't know, though. I mean, does the psychology of a criminal that, I mean, there's no choice in Mexico.

It's getting to the point where there's, I mean, what are you gonna do? You can't be an avocado farmer, you can't be a lemon farmer, you can't fish for jellyfish, they control the water supply. I mean, and let's face it, you know, there's not a whole lot of opportunity down there.

No, man, I mean, I guess. So what else are they gonna do besides go to the cartel? Signing, I honestly think that for, I'm gonna tell you, like partially the sort of these guys, recently meant he tried options. He tried options. He was born in a golden cradle, right in the center of one of the most powerful cartels in the world as a baby He could have everything, but he wanted to try something else. He really tried something else He tried to be a pilot, he tried to be a businessman,

he tried to just get away from that shit. But at the end, he really could, a man, because his family was like huge in that business. So in order to get a license to be a pilot, he will have to go to the military. In the military, we'll be like, no, no, man, you're this guy, you're family, you're in bed with these guys, you're not gonna like, I'm gonna hand you a license

plate claim to be a pilot, proper pilot. Yeah. So, and then he wanted to start a business. And he's family was like, yeah, yeah, you go start a business, I'll give you the money. And he's like, no, no, I won't start a business on my own. No, I can't do, man. If you have a front, like someone else running the business, because that's too dangerous for you and for us, because everybody knows who you are. And he's like, so I can't start a business.

Yeah, you can with my money and putting someone in charge. And he's like, but I can't own my business and run my business and be the face of my business. No, you can't. So he's like, well, I might as well start trafficking cocaine. And he's like, by all means, he was 15, 16. He really, I mean, he was in the high ups, right? Of the cartel. I didn't have another option because that's that's the game he's playing.

His family playing it. And there's a bunch of them like that. I'm pretty sure those chapitos face the same faith, right? Yeah. Ovidio is now probably facing life in prison, and he's only my age. But did he have a chance really? He's only sin as being the son of Ochapa was man, you know?

And now when you're outside those families and you're in povrish, I think you probably have some options. Not to get rich, you're not those families and you're in povrish. I think you probably have some options. Not to get rich. You're not going to get rich. But to have decent life, so much decent life. But I think also the whole culture of easy money, everyone trying to make money the easiest way

in the fastest they can. And getting to the top when you're 25 and driving Ferraris and owning houses and girls and clubs and shit. That's poisoning a lot of the people in Mexico, you know, because that's not feasible in Mexico. That's probably feasible and realistically achievable in the US, right? Probably. Work hard, you're smart, put up a business, grow that business, you can probably end up doing really well. You're smart enough to create a new app that no one was thinking of. Boom, you grow. You solve a logistic nightmare for a bunch of businesses. Boom, you spike up.

In Mexico, there is no that easy money like that. You can't get rich like that. Unless you'll want to be part of the cartel, but you're probably gonna end up killed and poor. Yeah. You know, one more thing on this propaganda slash style thing. I mean, I just want to keep hitting it. Sure, man.

It's, it's a real thing. This could actually work. Yeah. Yeah. And somebody is going to listen to this and think that this is also a good idea that's in a position that might be able to make something like this happen. You know, the minute, the minute that happens and the minute you start to get into the head of these organizations, you know, expansion stops

because then the problem is internal. And so all eyes go internal versus expansion, you know, and then the shrinking begins. Exactly. But now, you have the things to things. First, I think if someone is trying to start a sire between cartels, you need to know that you need to know the consequences, the outcome, kind of like plan,

while you're planning to do, or you can be in the middle of, you know, like a lot of bullshit, you know. Or you can be in the middle of, you know, like a lot of bullshit, you know. If you're just a regular guy on that computer and say, you know what, I'm gonna do a lot of fake accounts and start gifting, they're gonna get into shit. Cause these guys, it looks like we're saying they're dumb,

they're not, they're pretty smart and they have a lot of like smart people around them. They're, they're, they're fucking smart people. They just, they just lack a lot of different strengths, but they're, they're, they're smart people. Just because they're not ethical doesn't mean they're not in gullible. Yeah, they'll do it like to run these kind of business, you have to be smart, right? You, you can't be a dumb,

fucking literal fucker tell. Yeah. You're, you're, you're lack a lot of stuff. That's why your morals and ethics are shaky and are flexible and that's why you do all sorts of shit because in terms of money or power, with your smart. And the other thing is we need to also address that that cartels or criminal organizations are for the most part. They're not vertical. they're horizontal structure. This means that if you operate on this part

of the business within this family and they shrink, you're still gonna have different knots operating on a horizontal level, right? So you need to do things that affect the ground, the leveled ground of the organization for all of them. For all these different structures, right? Because it's not like vertically where the leadership is going to shrink and then everybody's going to fall out.

Just going to shrink this part. But all of these are still going to be operating. And they're just going to shrink this one and but all of these are still gonna be operating. And then you're finishing this one and then this one's gonna move here. And then, so you need to affect the ground. And I don't know what the ground means, probably money, power, corruption. The never-ending discussion.

Maybe that'll be implemented, but by the time we meet each other again. But, you know, let's move into, I keep saying this, and I want to talk about it. You know, from my point of view, you're two years ahead of the news cycle. I've been bringing it up multiple times. You know, you were talking about China centered in the chemists. You were talking about China centered in the supply. And now all of a sudden, the politicians, the media is finally picking this stuff up, but this is two years old. You know, the last time we spoke, they were, the cartels were already implementing the Thing the the new drug that's gonna take fentanyl's place. So fentanyl took over heroin

It's more potent than heroin now. There's this new drug. It's called Netizenase What how do you say night? I seeocene. Nytocene. Yes. It's also a man-made drug in laboratories. I can't exactly remember the origin of this shit, but it's something like, I don't like Germany, some stuff like that, it's an experiment for a super potent opioid that could stop pain, kind of like very similar to fentanyl. This shit, it's also like 50 times more powerful than fentanyl.

I've been speaking with doctors that they are very much on, you know, high alert. They're like, dude, this is getting in bad. I've been talking to first responders, firefighters, local police and different cities in the US. And addicts themselves, cartel members, all of them know about this. There is no way that this is not making it through the news or politicians. And all they're talking again, it's fentanyl to talking point.

How long has this been? This has been a year ago that you bought this. Literally. Literally. It's been happening for a year. I haven't even published anything, because it's still, well, the answer I'm getting from editor's and magazines and whatever, it's still into the weeks.

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It's the right move and it's the American way. I hope they f***ing care man because this is already in the streets of this country. If you have friends or contacts or probably if you have people watching that are first responders, that are doctors, they're gonna know what I'm talking about when you bring out nitocenes. In all sorts of scenes, there's like a hundred or two hundred more of the same thing families. They're hitting the streets. So that's why sometimes you will test and overdose patient and it wouldn't show up fentanyl.

It's not fentanyl, it's something else. But it's nitocene. It's nitocene or one of the scenes. So is this a pharmaceutical drug? Yeah, that's not pharmaceutical. Apparently that was banned. You know, that was like, this is too potent. We're not fabricating this shit.

And someone leaked it or leaked the formula and then they start producing a shit, which is super weird. And now it's all over. It's all over. Again, the same supply, the same supply chain, the same supply routes. So it is coming in from China. Coming from China, same shit.

Apparently, I think I probably get these bad wrong and I'll probably get someone in the comments correcting that shit, but if I'm not mistaken, I think it was first a ballot in Germany, decade to go. The drug was developed in Germany, but the supplies are coming out of China. The supplies are recent in coming out of China.

Are they, is it the same chemicals? I have no clue, man. I honestly, I have not, not clue. I'm very ignorant when it comes to chemical you know, like chemical components and shit. Like, what are they putting it in? Are they put, is it pills? Yeah, in the same, in the same, the same,

the same stinthal, that, that, the same stream that the fentanyl is getting to with, you know, heroin, pills, Tylenol, fake, Sannex, fake, oxis, allags, fake oxys, all that stuff. And all that stuff. Yes. It's just, it's basically same effect, same stuff, but more potent than fentanyl.

It's 50% more potent than fentanyl. So that means with harrowing, if you need it, let's just make fake measurement, right? If you need it, these amount of harrowing, liquid or whatever, to inject, to have a strong high. With fentanyl, you need these amount, right? Just to have the same strength. With night essence gonna be half that, it's less. So more profitable than fentanyl for cartels.

They need to add less, or they're gonna kill more people. If they keep adding the same amount, so what's the point, why even replace it? Because so they are worried about killing off their users. They don't give a shit. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care.

I mean, if you go, if we had five of those guys here that I've talked to over this past two years, they are gonna all agree on something. They're gonna say, this is not a nation, then. If you want to use that, you have the freedom, that's a new. You wanna die from using it, you know what it has, You know what it has? You know what it does? There's overdoses all around you and this is either because you wanted something stronger and that's a new, not a new, or because someone's f**king you up, one of your local leaders is f**king you over. But we were doing what we need to do. Make more revenue, ship whatever you guys are asking for. Right? That's what they say. All of them, this is what they say.

This is something the Americans are asking for. They ask for this shed. When we started putting up again, just like regular harrowing, prices went down because no one was buying that shed, but when we started like fentanylice, prices started spiking. They wanted that shit. So they were just supplying a demand. Are they just spiking again with nightism? And they're spiking, I would lie.

Nightism is all over, man. Many of the f***ing cartels, many of the guys cooking shit, they don't even know. Probably the first chemist that went with this China's chemist and probably those guys, they know exactly what's happening. But then they passed the recipe through or sell the whole batches. That's just people mixing it.

But they don't even know. If you ask them, like, is that fentanyl, or is that not a scene, what is it? They say, it's white chiva, chiva vlanca, which is basically fentanyl ice heroin, or something laced from heroin. They don't even know. They're just mixing it

because someone sold that shit, so I just don't add that much at these much, and that's it. Do you think there's more nighties than fentanyl now? I don't think it's still more nighties than fentanyl right now, but I think it's just as much as you need to have another hundred thousand overdose in this country.

Man, wow. Yeah, it's bad. And the last time I spoke with these guys, I can't remember Dr. Cala, I can't remember his name, great doctor. He's dealing with addictions Can I remember Dr. Kala, can I have his name? Great doctor. He's, uh, he's dealing with, uh, with addictions and, and with

fentanyl problems and all this kind of like issues at a chemical biological level. He was absolutely worried about, about night scenes. He's like, dude, forget about fentanyl. And that, this was over a year ago. He was like, dude, forget about fentanyl. This is the new thing and then I get reached pretty often by first responders from all over the country

on my socials. So I do have you, do you have any info on this shit? It's testing positive for this new thing, which is an item scene or something like that. And I started getting more and more and more through like over this year. And I was like, what the fuck? This is something huge and huge.

And you know, one thing that I don't understand, and I don't know if this is coming from cartels or people that are cutting drugs here in the US, but I mean, you hear about all these people that are overdosing on fentanyl for smoking, smoking a joint or sniffing coke or, I mean, I mean, why are they, are they the ones doing that?

Lacing these other drugs, these recreational drugs with fentanyl? Yeah, yeah. So I'm not sure about weed. I have never found any positive evidence that it is getting laced with with. I think there is some sort of like cross contamination with weed. Probably same case with cocaine because it will be against the effects you're looking with Coke, right? With Coke you're looking to go up and the opiates and fentanyl shit, it's going down. So, I don't think that will be by the sign.

I do think that it will be cross contamination in some cases, isolated cases, or a bad dealer that didn't even know what what is doing and is just lacing it with whatever, but I don't think that's intended. Okay. It is intended with heroin. It is intended in a lot of fake pills. On Sinhaloa, the last couple of times I've been there, they have all sorts of pressers, right, with the

Sanax logo, with the Advil logo, with the M30s, different peel pressing machines, which they sell counterfeit, right? They sell that shit as if it's real oxy content, and there's a lot of people that actually believe that it's proper, right? It is now very hard to find those M30s, probably impossible to find it on a legal streamline, right? You can go to the doctor and say, like, you really need a prescription and a being in a need of M30s. There are some of them that are selling that they have proper prescriptions because they have something and they sell that on the black market

and that's where the other shit comes in, right? Because all the shit that's coming from Mexico, it's fake M30s. Fully lays with fentanyl, not original oxycontin. So let's say you are a dad and you have a problem in the issue, you have strong pain, whatever. So you got proper oxycontin by your doctor. And your daughter, teenager, whatever, finds the bottle, pubs 10, goes out to school, and starts selling them, because they're hot now.

Everybody wants those 30s, right? So now that shit, it's in the black market, but that shit's real. And then another dude shows up and like, I also have some M30s, but how the price is just selling them. But these guys is bringing all the fake M30s from Mexico. Cheap stuff, legs to fentanyl. So all your friends start doing that shit, which is cheaper and more easy to keep getting them until you get a bat one and you're done.

That makes sense. And same with Sannex and all those different opioids, right? Yeah. Man, that stuff's powerful, man. I mean, you know, if they really wanted to, if they really want to do some massive carnage with the drone stuff, they'd put messing around with explosives and put those in there. Yeah.

Yeah. And I'm not real good for, you know, and really do it. That, that shit is, that, that shit is, there's a lot, I mean, dude, I have this video on my YouTube channel when I went in time, one of this fentanyl apps, right? And if you go, scroll the comments from 200 comments, 150, or people trying to get those bills. They're like, where can I get those? I need those. I need someone 30s. Hey, where did you have a plug-in Phoenix? Hey, do you have a plug-in Douglas? Hey,, they have a plug-in New York. People are all over

that shit, man. Or a lot of comments like, huh, I'm just about to smoke one. Ha ha, just took one. Man. So there's people who like stuff strong, high, you know? I mean, this stuff is serious, you know, I mean, more and more on the media, you're starting to see kids, you know, dying on playgrounds by sticking themselves with a dirty fentanyl needle or it's been used as a weapon against police officers at this point, you know, where they blow it out of them or throw it, throw fentanyl out of them and these get- It's dangerous. And officers are OD in on this stuff. It's dangerous in shed man. It's killing people in this country and in Mexico as well.

I mean, even though fentanyl is not huge in Mexico, which makes me think also who's giving those orders, right? It's not like cocaine, it's not hitting Mexico. It's all over Mexico, math and fedemain. Every other drug, but fentanyl, it's widespread in Mexico. Europe as well. There is not a strong offering of fentanyl in Europe and in Mexico it's bad to consume.

That's actually where I wanted to go next is what other countries are the cartels operating in, other than Latin America and the US and Canada? Europe has always been a strong market for cartels. Probably very unexplored for the most part because what they did is they broke deals with local gangs in places like Spain, you know, where a lot of tourists and don't people go to party. And that's where the supply comes. And it was mostly also directly coming from Colombia and Ecuador, panahua, probably wheat and cocaine,

methamphetamine, somewhat, not really. But that was the usual market for Europe. Then the cartels probably felt like we're already capped the US market. We need another market, so they started moving into Europe. In Spain, the Netherlands, Italy, breaking deals with the Mafias there, with the Albanian Mafia, they have huge deals, like strong relationship, Mexicans and Albanians. And it's probably easier for all of them. You know, the Spain by now, it's probably the second largest headquarters for the Sinaloa Cartel after Kuliacan. It's funny. The huge in Spain, they went in and bought a bunch of properties, a bunch of cars, a bunch

of businesses. They set up shop in Spain hard, like hard core. And now the, now the Spain national police is like, you know, what the fuck are we going to do with all these dudes? We keep arresting major honchos of this St. Helo Cartel in the country. And apparently the network is huge, it's huge. So they opened up shop there. They started cooking there, met them fed them in,

because it was probably easier to start cooking within the country than bringing shit over. They found a good proxy for cocaine, Africa, was a great proxy for cocaine. Africa was a great proxy for them. So they will ship cocaine straight from Colombia, Ecuador, to Africa, use the local gangs to protect or run, to smuggle to everything, and then put that right up through Italy across the Mediterranean. I can't understand. I don't know, journey.

...hiverralltach. I can't wait to see how long has this been going on. This has been going on for like probably five, six years now. And also another huge port of entry, it's Anfurb. They found this little, little port in Netherlands called Anfurb. And it was a small commercial port very much unwatched. And they managed to corrupt every single officer and every single person in Anvorp, another pushing in a lot of stuff through Anvorp to a point that it's now again out of control. The Netherlands, it's having a hard time to stop shit from coming in through

on-verb because of the corruption network they managed to establish there. So, I guess Europe right now, it's a super hot market for Mexican criminal organizations, specifically for the Sinaloa and in Caliso cartels. Those guys, Caliso cartel did something that the Sinaloa cartel wanted to do for a good while, and they couldn't achieve, which is basically getting Africa, well, not the whole continent, probably the west side of Africa, this west country in Africa, to basically have a flag of their curtail. El Chapo tried to do several times that,

but he was facing that the gangs were not really aligning with his operations, and it wasn't really working, although he used Africa as a proxy to push shit in. He rather went to Antwerp and start corrupting people there and pushing drugs through Annverb and through Spain instead of dealing with the Africans. But the Carreterralisco somehow, they found a way to own Africa, to own turf, to own

gangs. And if you go on Africa and start asking about the Chalisco cartel, whatever they know what you're talking about, you know, a lot of them are working for the Chalisco cartel. So how does it work? Would the cartel send in, would they send in, would they do what China did and send in chemists and send supplies? Or do they send the entire enterprise out there and it's their own cooks, it's their own gums, it's their own.

I think what they do is they find first leadership, right, between like the gangs and the governments, you know, the African government is also pretty weak when it comes to corruption. It's highly corrupt, corruptible. So they find these open windows and they start lending the name, right? They start like, dude, we have the best price as we have the best contacts in South America.

We own the shit. We'll give you a cut and you can use our name because we're a big enterprise, right? So they open up like these sort of like, come see, I'm franchises at the beginning. And after a few years, they owned the folk home thing. They are operating on the name of Cartel Calisco and within the leadership of Cartel Calisco. So, yeah, Calisco Cartel is now huge in Africa.

The Synodocartel is huge in Spain, and both are huge in on purpose in the Netherlands. What do you think that the most profitable strategy is would it be the Centalowacartel inside Spain, inside Europe, setting up little satellite production, drop production points, or would it be a big production facility in Africa and and just send it boats, fishing boats, submarines, airplanes, whatever you can across the Mediterranean. I think that's probably the most profitable. I mean, Africa has the perfect storm for a crew of organizations.

Highly corrupt it, weak under governments, and starving to death. Yeah. So yeah. What are these deals that are making with the Eastern blood countries? I mean, you would mention the Armenians. Albanians? Yeah, Albanians.

Uh-huh. I think pretty much they run, for whatever understand, Albanians are huge in Ecuador specifically. They started operating their own mafia in Ecuador and in in some parts of Mexico, like Cancun. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. How many of you out there are looking forward to the upcoming holiday season? It's right around the corner. Or, or some of you dreading the upcoming holiday season. Maybe you struggle to be upbeat. maybe a struggle to be cheerful.

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where you give us cocaine, we'll smuggle, you know, girls for human trafficking through your country and we'll start benefiting from that. Then he changed when these curteles in aloa and cartoralisco started going south at some point and this is this was something pretty smart and genius by the Calisco curtele. What they did is they said okay so the US it's it's it's it's not. I mean we have hands there that's in a lot of cartoels for the most part has a lot of clients But we haven't looked south like we need to own because they're all we have Provide suppliers It's out, but we don't know that fly thing. We buy from them. We need to own that shit

So they want to Ecuador to Colombia to Venezuela to but I why? Ecuador, to Colombia, to Venezuela, to Paraguay, to literally own that part of the business, right? And to first, franchise it. And second, saying, we own this shit. Now, the gang's fighting in Ecuador, having Ecuador is having one of the worst moments in history when it comes to violence right now. It's it's it's probably as much if not worst than what is happening in Mexico. It's a it's a bloodshed in Ecuador. And before it was the Chonero versus the other guys, can I remember the name? The can I remember the name? Two local gangs basically gangs. But now there is the Sinaloa Cartel against the Cartel Calisco

New Generation. So they exported the leadership of the cartel to these places, to these territories. So what happened with the deals with the Albanians is that now two mafias are in charge of heavy part of both businesses, right, of human trafficking and of drugs trafficking to Europe, benefiting off of each other, using the same level of violence. They're not fighting. You're not seeing the Albanians fighting the Kalisko-Gertel, the St. Louis-Gertel. There are three different enterprises working each other and street level, Kalisko versus Sinhaloa, fighting for turf in Ecuador.

So that's, I mean, apparently they do have a good relationship and they should have something put together when it comes to these mafias in the eastern part of Europe. How are these guys? I mean, man, this is going to, this is really going to hit Europe. This is going to be interesting. It's going to be an interesting news cycle as well when this starts to make mainstream media probably in the next two years. The next two years, you're going to tell me, dude, I just interview a politician saying that there's

new thing called lidocenes and the Ecuadorians are crazy, that's true. Yeah, and the fentanyl market in Europe is taking off. I mean, that's gonna be an interesting news cycle when Europe's hard on the US, it's there very critical of the stuff that we're doing. It'll be interesting when they have the fentanyl problem in full force, what they have to say about how we're dealing

with this problem then. If they do, man, because again, this is why I first started believing that this was an attack basically on this country, right? No one else is using. No one else is demanding. It's not popping up. No one else.

Just in the f**king US. Why? It's like, dude, that has to be by the sign. Well, a lot of people believe that China kind of aided the cartels because of the opium wars. Yeah, but not sure if that's the reason behind it, right? Like the opium wars, like revenge or whatever, I can say, but I do can say it's like the target was

and has been the US. Yeah, that's definitely true. Yeah. Well, I mean, benefits China to weaken us. It definitely benefits the cartel that we're just right across the border. But now it seems they're maxed out as we discussed earlier. So they're looking for a new turf, where's a new turf? Probably Europe.

Europe. Probably. Or Africa. There's a lot of, there's a lot of like settling the problem of Africa is they won't be able to afford the product. Yeah, that is true. Yeah. But the Europeans can afford the product.

The, you know, several countries in Asia would be able to afford the product. They're so weird. And it's, it's going crazy in Canada too. Yeah. You know, but so that'll be an interesting news cycle. But how are they kind of setting up within the United States? I know that the, I mean,

I don't think the fact that the car tells that the, the upper echelon or the enterprises that are setting up within the US, I don't think that has anything to do with how open the border is as much as I would love to create that narrative. I mean, they're going to get here no matter what. But now the massive amounts of fun, all human trafficking, I think that could probably we could at least slow the bleed there. But how are these guys setting up their enterprise here in the US?

So basically the US has the money, right? Has the power, it's a client. That's for one thing. So I guess from the 90s, 80s, they started doing like great relationships, establishing relationships in the US, coming to the US, establishing relationships in the US, coming to the US, meeting clients in the US, since back then.

Right now, if you look at the heads of the Volskertchell talking about the Sino-Lokertchell and the Kertakalisko-Noah-Karrenasyon, most of their families are on this country. And I mean, it will be naive to believe that they're not working for the organization, right, that they're just family members. The daughters of the Felmencio leader of the Cartel Calisco, New Generation, they were born in the US, they're US citizens.

They've been operating from here, they've been arrested and freed and keep back at it. The sons of El Mayo, all of these sons, every single one of the sons of El Mayo Sombada, has been arrested in this country and eventually freed and back at it. So, I mean, there is no higher up when it comes to this criminal organizations, right? The main leaders of the organizations are operating within this country because they feel safer, safer. Let me, I understand that. I guess what I'm talking about, I do understand what you're saying, what I'm talking about

is how deep into the system are they woven into the US? You know, within the... Like with the government or? With the government, with everything. You know, with, with, yeah, how are they embedding within the government? How are they setting up their organizations here? I mean, they can't just code here.

They can't just go on Missouri. This I don't think they can and Illinois Illinois and say, sell these cornfields. We're taking over all these cornfields now. This is our product. I mean, they might be able to do that a month ago. I don't think that they can do that here yet, but I'm sure they're trying to figure out how they can implement it. No, you know what?

What's the thing that it's probably misunderstood when it comes to the presence of criminalization to the US is that they've always been here. It's, it's usually we see like them and us or us and them and we feel that that's the cartel and we just buy drugs. But our cartel exists in the terms of like who owns that product and who sells it, right?

Mexico, it's for criminal organizations, it's not profitable, it's not probably smart to send Mexicans, members of our cartel to set up shops. They just rather hire by invitation, by money, by collaboration, or by membership Americans saying, you're already an American citizen. You want to work with us. Let's, let's partner up. You, you buy this stuff. I, you know, get rid of the product as long as it's on the use side, your side of the country. And I don't give a shit what you do with the product just go and do it and you send back arms and money and we'll continue to deal with that. I think that's why we're not we're not gonna see cartels forming within the US you know cartel presence

absolutely because Tino Loa cartel Cartel has put in places with Americans. We've been seeing doctors, teachers, politicians, officers arrest that, working for either the Cinaloa or the Calisco Cartel. My feed on Instagram is full with the reels of these sort of people, you know, like recently California This woman who is I don't know like the leader of the tax force against Fentanyl for the state police Whatever she was literally arrested with a bunch of Fentanyl orders, right? Why because probably this curtailist this leadership through someone through a middle man got to her Tell like hey, you want to make some extra money?

You already have great position. You're a US citizen. You keep 50% of what we make and you would you don't need to make anything just help us out putting your blind eye and probably shedding up your own shit and Wide woman man from a great plays, great background, very well respected. She's the leader of the union of the state police or something in California. Are you serious? Yes. I'll tell you that. Caught with a shittano fentany orders, putting up business. They, I mean, that's the way they operate.

We think like, oh, it's kind of commonly Mexican with bulletproof bass to set up shop. Now they're smarter than that. They'll just get to you and hire you and make you a partner and help us honey, you are a cartel. You were part of the organization, you know? Well, that's what I meant.

How are they smartly getting into the U.S.? I mean, I know it's not time now for them to send armies or anything like that. You know what I mean? But, they're obviously very good at playing the long game. Yeah, I know. And I'm sure they have a strong corrupting power. I was just looking this morning, some putting together a story about human smuggling

and how's that working out in terms of money, who's making money, who's getting sentenced. So I went into the US Sentencing Commission website and I started looking at the graphs and the figures and one by one and you looked like 1993, 80% non-U.S. citizens sentence for smuggling humans across the border, some 20% where U.S. citizens Americans. And then you go through the years,

and that number started going up and up and up, until you get to 2022, and it's 80% of those sentence for human smuggling are US citizens. And only 20%, it's not non-citizens. It doesn't specify if it's Mexico, whatever, but it says non-U.S. citizens. They literally exported the whole business to Americans. They said like, you know what, you're already a citizen.

You can't go through checkpoints. We're not gonna, we're just gonna drop the human's migrants across these wall. You take over and you charge half of it. Keep the money. And that way they exploded the business, right? They were getting more money from a shorter cake. Now it's a huge, okay, small money, it's still huge cake. That was surprising to me to look on documents not even let someone tell me that. It's literally documents that you were viewing

how many sentences and who is getting sentence for a human smuggling. And it's 79.4% Americans. Wow. Good nuts. I wasn't expecting to hear that statistic. Yeah, I was, yeah. I went and you picked me up from the hotel, looking all through those stats.

Wow. Because I think it's a good story. Unbelievable. What do you think about the border? About the border. You know, Elon Musk just went down there not long ago. He's a border non-ed. I mean, what do you think about this?

I think, first of all, I think the border is a mess. And I think we all agree on that, man. It's a mess. It's messy, it's bad. It's ugly for everyone. It's not good for, for, for, no one I believe, probably from some politicians and from a handful of politicians in, in, in, in Washington, it's good for them, probably. Does Mexico want that border secured? Mexico doesn't give a shit about its borders. You don't think they care about the guns coming into their country? Oh, man. Mexico, it's, they could incur less think they care about the guns coming into their country? Oh man.

Mexico, it's a care less. They couldn't care less. Mexico cares about the next upcoming elections. That's where they're citing so much with the US, you know, like they're like, yeah, we're gonna put together, I don't know, this press are talking about how we're working together to battle fentanyl and to battle arms trafficking.

Mexico don't care, man. I mean, we have our own border patrol called the I&M, Instituto Nacional de Migración, Mexican National Institute, Mexican Institute of Immigration. The most corrupt institution in the country by far, by far. These guys are an extortion center. They're extorting migrants, they're extorting cartels, they're getting money from cartels, and they're in charge of stopping migrants from breaching the border. No one, they're the fucking border is like that, you know. Yeah. They don't give a shit, they're just making money. Now, how it looks on the ground, if you go to El Paso streets, they're a mess. They're migrants all over. They can't find a place to stay.

Half of them got across lawfully because this is something that also it's it's important to clarify It's not legally, but it's law there is a law that allows you to cross illegally the border and then request political asylum, right? illegally the border and then request political asylum, right? You're crossing the border illegally, but through a lawful way to do it. You're not running away from the border patrol, you're turning yourself into the border patrol. You're waiting for them to pick you up, right? That once they pick you up, they have, the US government has a responsibility to start a process for you to claim asylum, right? And then eventually through the years, you go to court and say, you don't have any foundations, so you go back to your country, or yes, you have foundations, you can stay here.

Yeah, you can stay here in the country. months or a cult take 15 years. Yeah. So a lot of people is doing that. The thing is, there is not a system operating in the border. There is not a way, a path. The Biden administration said they have a path, right? And they said, CVP1 is a phone app where you can stay in Colombia, Ecuador, and Honduras, whatever you are, apply. And eventually, you'll get a notification saying, oh, you can come and let's review your process

and let's see what's up. Obviously, it's not working. The f***ing app is bugged. It doesn't have enough applications. It's always crashing. These, both of these people, they don't have access to f***ing internet with enough capability to go through these apps.

The other half are getting scanned and the other half can stay in place. You know, there's a lot of economical migrants. There's a lot of security migrants as well. They're threatened by gangs who are by their own government to get them killed or they are already killed. They're kids, they're, their husband. Yeah. So they can stay in place. So the system is not working.

There is no system. So when there is not a system, you also have a bunch of inel-passo, when you go down to an op-pass, you have a bunch of them that are crossed illegally, that crossed through the border, paying a cartel, paying a smuggler, and they jump the fence, have a bunch of videos of them jumping the fence. If you go, literally, it's so bad that if you and I were to go to a pass, I'll take you to dinner to a good restaurant that it's right there

with a border wall, it's a backdrop. And the first 15 minutes we're sitting there, you're gonna start watching someone jumping the fence right there. So that easy. You don't even have to go and find them. You just stand there. The other way is just doing a new standup

for a new outlet. So I was doing the typical reporter standup with the camera. So I'm here at the board, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, when I'm reviewing the footage, there's guys jumping behind me. Jumping the fuck up.

It's happening. You know, a lot, a lot. And you see the portable driving in and whatever. I don't know if it's real that they are overwhelmed or I don't know. Well, I mean, you got to put yourself in their shoes too. I mean, they get reprimanded for doing their own job. Yeah, but he's true. And we saw big news piece, what I guess about a year, maybe two years ago, where they had that Border Patrol guy on horseback and they told everybody that he was whipping the

migrants when it wound up just being the horse reins. Yeah, and it's, you've got to put yourself the horse reins. Yes, yes, yes. And it's, yeah. Did you get to put yourself in their shoes? What would you do? I've been embedding with them as well, very often, to go and write along on the border with the Border Patrol in the pass of sector. They've been really nice to me.

And you see, dude, once they're driving, they get a call. It's like, oh, there's another migrant trying to get a car to fence. When they like, oh, there's another migrant, you know, trying to get a car to fence. When they're driving there, there's another one here. And like someone there, no, I'm a word basically dealing with another group of, so it's just a lot of people, man. So there is no way that a wall, a border patrol, you know, these guys are going to find a way. They are creative, they're desperate. some of them.

The border is just like that. What you need is a system to separate those who are realistically requesting political asylum. And all of those who are just trying to, because if you put yourself also in the shoes of a migrant, right, I think it's very different situations you're facing. You're facing, you know what, my military government try to take me, they already torture me, I need to leave. Probably it's a place will be America, the US. If you're trying to do that, you're gonna try to do it the right way, right? You're gonna try to ask for political asylum,

go through a system, but if you can't find a system, and everybody, when you reach the border, a place you don't know, you're like, so where? And there's a lot of like smugglers and other migrants and other people telling you like, not just get across the border man, just get across.

Just give me one thousand bucks and just get across. You're like, yes okay, with my family out, with your family, your babies and everything. Once you get across, the border patrol is like, what the fuck, you just cross illegally, that's nothing like we can process you like that. Just go back to Mexico. So I understand both sides.

Now, the guys who are willingly looking to get across illegally, that there's gotta be a reason why, right? They probably, they don't have any claims to do us a political asylum. They are not interested in doing it, you know, a lawful way. They want to come here to this country legally, being a shadow, right, for some reason. And solving one, probably, yes, I don't know.

Yeah. Do you think that, do you think that this? Is there anything we can do to stop the Fentanyl? I mean, talk to a lot of Experts, you know yourself included, you know other other Investigative Journalists that cover cartel stuff and you know, it it's always you guys are always the ones that are like It's not gonna work that wall that's not gonna work that's not gonna work No, I don't think it's it's gonna work like that because I mean

Right now again if you go to the statistics of on the web page on customer and poor protections and see like the seizures of drugs. Less than 10% is coming in between ports of entry, meaning through the wall, under tunnels, whatever. Less than 10% and that's not even significant. Yeah. 90, 90 something percent, it's coming through the ports of entry. And when you see again, the people are arrested Americans, 90% Americans,

smuggling. Do you think that there's a possibility? Do you think that there's a possibility that these statistics are skewed because there's more security at the actual entry points versus the vastness of the US Mexico border. You know what, I explored that possibility, but when I went and this story in Mexico with I embedded the whole brow of Fenton and Wright from Xinaloa, the drive up to a place called Mexicali, Mohal California, and talking to those guys, they're telling me, you don't put all your eggs on the same basket. If you have a migrant with drugs, you can have a double loss. You can only afford to lose one, the migrant or the drugs.

If you're not going to lose two merchandise, two pieces of merchandise and once, right? That's their logic. They think, we're not going to put migrants with drugs. And also, they say, we're not going to put drugs through, you know, like the desert or whatever, because it's going to be easier to be spotted, right? How much how much drugs can you store in a person, in a human or whatever, you need a vehicle to get across. And you can't do that in certain places. There is a huge canyon and then the river. In others, it's a river with a high flow.

In others, it's the wall. In others, it's just a desert. You can easily spot it. So what they did is they started hiring hiring Americans. So like the same the same thought as a human smuggling, they're like, you're already an American. You can pass this checkpoints pretty easy, because if you tell the CVP officer, I'm an American, American citizen, you're usually excused from secondary

and stuff usually. We embedded with a girl with a woman, she's the mother of five kids, she lost her job during the pandemic. And a friend of her at a bar came up with that, came up like I did, I know couple of guys that will give you a car, a nice car, and they'll give you five grand every time you cross. And you don't even gonna know where the drugs is or what are you getting across. You're just gonna get five grand, five grand, as soon as you get to this hotel every time. And you do it whenever you can, however you can, on your free time, whatever. She first started working at a local restaurant in Calexico. She did small plates, man.

There's really not much of a job or whatever. She was making it up. She was like, dude, my husband left. I'm in charge of five kids. I'm not making it up, plus. I need, I'm just making it up to pay for the place that my child's making a kid. She decided to call a guy, he hook her up,

just right across the border. They gave him like 2,000, 1,000, $5,000 Mercedes-Benz nice car. That's yours plus here's your $5,000 in the pants. And just bring the car tomorrow. The cartel guys, I interviewed, that were stashing her car right there when I was there. That's where I met her. They told me the first five, six times, we send her

across without anything. She thought she had anything, but we're doing that to test her first, and also to get the custom officers used to her crossing every other day, once a week, every weekend. So they were used to her. And if they look for something, they were not gonna find anything. So we did that, we do that, several rounds. And then after the sixth boom, we loaded the gas tank pack with fentanyl pills and off she goes.

And she's been doing that for the last couple of years. And every time she's like, dude, I need to stop, but I can't stop right now. I'm doing money, man. And I keep, she's like, dude, I need to stop, but I can't stop right now. I'm doing money, man. And she's like, I keep permixing myself. I'm gonna save enough money to stop working. But I keep spending that money and then I go back again. And then I go back again.

And anyway, we were filming. We were behind her, filming her car, loaded with fentanyl. She got secondary. They couldn't find shit. They couldn't find shit. They couldn't find shit. We were like, man, because we had to go to another line. And we're like, she's, she's gone, man, she's going to get a lot of years in prison. So we, anyhow, we waited at the motel. She was supposed to leave the stuff. And yeah, she showed up.

And we interviewed her, she was almost crying in the interview, she was like, dude, I was so scared. Did they find anything? It's just like, they didn't find the, do you know what you're carrying? No, you know where? No, they never tell me. And she, she swore to the cameras again, like, this is the last time I'm going to do it. No, I'm scared. Pretty sure she's just doing it. That same case for a lot of Americans, they're like 90% of the drugs are being smuggled through ports of entry by Americans.

Enticed by the fucking cartels. So the cartels are, they have the money, money paid. They recruit them. So they selectively look for poverty. Exactly, desperate. For. Desperation. For people desperate. Yeah. A single mom who's trying to wicker way to, yeah, it'll waffle town.

Exactly. It's not going to happen. You know, and yeah, it was, it was sad. It was like that. I mean, that's hard to, yeah, dude. It was harder for you. You know, you get kids and you have to to sometimes you have to do what you have to do You know to get a float and sadly for her that was

That was her option and and it was pretty shocking and sad to see her because she was such a nice woman, you know She was probably a bit older than me and She was good. She was just really nice. You can tell she was struggling, you know She was strong. She's she's not a drug user not like have a drink. She was struggling. She's not a drug user, not like, have a drink or anything like that. She's a nice woman trying to get her shit together for her five kids. And Alpha Sada and she shows up in this house in Mahikali

with a bunch of cartel guys, all cocked up with a bunch of lines in the house, kids playing around, weapons all over. And they're like, yeah, just go to the store usual. So you usually go to the store on the corner to hang out there with the owners, have a couple of chips, her soda while these guys stash her car with shit.

So she wouldn't even know where she has the shit in case they ask her. Man then, oh, she goes. It's, and that's how this is happening. All the shit we hear, all those talking points, I get it. I get how someone cool thing that it's migrants coming over with bags and bags of fentanyl. That is not happening. That is not happening. If you have footage or photos or whatever, that's probably a nice, related case. These are the numbers.

These are the stats. These are the interviews straight from Cartel members, straight from a human career that got enticed to work with this guy. Man. This is how they're breaking this country, you know? Yeah. This is how they're breaking it. They're taking advantage of the economy being so shitty right now.

Everything is super expensive. The COVID shed, you know? Yeah. Broke this country to the ground, you know. Yeah, made a lot of people super poor, made a lot of people super, super wealthy. Yes, yes it did. Well Louise, what else do we have to cover?

Do we have anything else? I don't think so, man. I think we're good and I have to fly it to catch. I hope there is a fourth time, you know. I think there will be. I think there will be. What are you getting ready to get into anything crazy? Yes, I do have a couple of places I'm going to travel. I want to start doing more stuff within the US. Nice. These guys are doing, these guys are embedding and doing crazy stuff in the US. We can talk about criminal organizations.

Well, I'll tell you what, how long is it going to take you to figure out what the hell is going on in the US? Well, not much, not much. In time, I just need to work the logistics and the access, you know, for, for, you need to talk to these guys to a lot of times and several hours. So they understand what I want to do, how I want to do it. Because if you just show up, cool, go south really quick, you know, they see a camera there like, oh, you didn't tell me or, no, I need to help them understand exactly how it's going to look and what kind of camera I'm taking and who's come with me and what I'm trying to achieve and what

question I'm going to ask and that kind of stuff. So I'm going to take probably still a couple of weeks. I would love to do an episode with you where all we talk about is cartels embedded in the United States. Yeah, I do. And how they're operating the United States. Yeah, I do it right now. How they're operating footage, whole thing. Yeah, just like every other time. I think they'll be an amazing.

That'll be cool. And amazing. And I'm going to say again, I'll probably bring you with me. Yeah, you know, we talked about, we did talk about some stuff last night that, look, if these media outlets are giving you a hard time and they're not paying for the stories I'm gonna tell you right now. I love everything that you're reporting on I think I Think you are one of the most cutting-edge reporters I've ever met really appreciate them and and You're you are always welcome here man and And and some of this other stuff that we're

working on, if these, can I talk a little bit about it about the exclusive interview? I won't say who it is. Yeah, just yeah. As long as we leave out his name or his context, let's talk about it. But there are some very prominent figures inside the cartel world here in the US that we don't be setting up an interview with. And space wouldn't be shown, but man, if that happens, let's do that man. I told you, they're ready. They're ready to... they'll help your show. They know what? Yeah, they know your show. I told them through a secure communication. Last night that I was coming back on your show and that was like telling to get ready to have me on his show. So that'll be interesting, man. I think you will have an interesting conversation with these guys. So do I. I don't think I would. I know I would.

Yeah. So I'm down. Let's do it. Let's set it up. We will. We'll be in touch. Let's set that up. I want to do it. I can't believe the cartels, the Cinaloa cartel, is watching the Sean Ryan show. Yeah, that blows my mind. That is for a sure man, that is 100% sure. I think you know what, I think they like, they like that some of your guests are pretty knowledgeable when it comes to arms to military strategy That kind of stuff. I think they're interested in that kind of thing. They watch that stuff. Yeah. No, they watch the watch your show

I mean they don't watch me on your show. They watch your show. Yeah They they they what they watch you show man. They watch the interviews they watch the all the stuff They love that guy talking about about that CIA guy Erick and that talking about the UFOs and This this this guy who said he was in the in the CIA was that acronym. I was I was not convinced which one This guy with the curly hair. Oh, Andrew Boost-Monkey.

Andrew Boost-Monkey, they like that interview. I mean, we would chat about that when I was doing this. I told you, I had this interview 16 hours of interview with one of these guys, with a couple of those guys. And they were both talking about your show, and you could tell that they actually watched the show. They don't only watch it because they want to see what I say or whatever. They watch your show. They like it. Holy shit.

They're like your interviews. I wasn't expecting that. And more than they like it, I think they respect your show. They respect your question, they respect the people you're bringing in. And I think they respect that stuff. Wow. I never would have expected that. It's crazy man. Yeah. I mean, I was telling them that like, yeah, I mean, there's a show, whatever, because we're like small talking. And I will tell them that like I went on D-Show

and I actually told these guys, D's and that, I would talk, and he's like, oh yeah, yeah, the, the, the, the, what is it? What was it like? He told me like, what, a Marine or a SEAL, something like that, right? And I'm like, yeah, Sean Ryan, he's like, yeah, dude, the, the, what is it? What was it like? He told me like, what, a Marine or a SEAL something like that, right? And I'm like, yeah, Sean Ryan, he's like, yeah, dude, I'm subscribed.

I watch all of these. He's interviews and that interview with a CIA guy talking about UFOs and they know it. Yeah, they know it. Yeah. Wow, fascinating. It's crazy, man. Well, brother, I can't wait to knock that interview out.

And if I can pull it off, if I can pull it off, which I think I can, it would just have to be spread out over time. I would love to go to some of these different cities within the US, whether you just crank out these interviews, maybe we could make a docu-series or something, but I'll produce it. Love chatting with you, man. Thanks again. Thank you brother. Thanks for having you, man. Thanks again. Thank you, brother. Thanks for having me, man. That was a pleasure. Yeah.

Thanks for the gift, man. My pleasure. We safe, brother. I want to see you back here. So, sounds good. you