Shawn Ryan Show - #84 Nick Bryant - Did Jeffrey Epstein Clone Himself? | Part 2

Episode Date: November 21, 2023

Nick Bryant is the author of "The Franklin Scandal" and Activist for Epstein Justice. Bryant is also credited with publishing Jeffrey Epstein's "Little Black Book." Part two is a complete breakdown of Jeffrey Epstein's vile empire and the systems that enabled his rise to a position of power in "high society." Bryant details the origins of the "Little Black Book" and uncovers the names within it. This is the account the mainstream media won't cover. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://lairdsuperfood.com - USE CODE "SRS" https://firecracker.farm/shawn Nick Bryant Links: Website - https://nickbryantnyc.com Twitter / X - https://twitter.com/Nick__Bryant Epstein Justice - https://epsteinjustice.com Please leave us a review on Apple & Spotify Podcasts. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website | Patreon | TikTok | Instagram | Download Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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of a chlamelist station. I started investigating and I ended up with Epstein's blank book. Where did you start your investigation? I just, I started calling people that were in law, like I called Michael Ryder. Was he part of the cover-up? He was part of it getting exposed. Okay. Yeah, he was, he was like Mr. Standup guy and all this. I mean, if it hadn't been for him, we wouldn't be here talking. People speculate that it was Israeli, not American,

but here's the thing about that, and I try to explain it to people, there's no way that American intelligence is gonna let Israeli intelligence compromise American politicians without getting a cut of that intelligence. There's just no way. I mean, why wouldn't they?

Maybe the, I mean, if Jeffrey Epstein has blackmail on literally all these powerful people. Well, here's what happened. Okay, so, when that state of land jury you didn't end up seeing see any count of child abuse. Michael Ryder of the Palm Beach Police Department was just livid, and he went to the feds, and he said, you guys have got to do something about this. And at a certain point, the feds accumulated a list of 36 victims.

I've got the list. The feds had a list of 36 victims. I've got the list. The fence had a list of 36 victims. Alexander Acosta was the US attorney for the Southern District of Florida, Miami. And he was told that not to go after Epstein, that Epstein was intelligence, and it was above his pay grade. Now he said that he became a secretary of labor under Trump and When the Trump team was vetting him they asked him why didn't you go after Epstein? He said well, I was told that Epstein was intelligence and it was above my pay grade not to go after him and It has come out that he said that and he's never denied saying that. So he was told, Epstein is intelligence and you need to back away from him. And that's exactly, and so when we're talking about power, this is a US attorney.

There's two people constitutionally that can tell a US attorney to back down the United States of America, the president and the attorney general. So that's the kind of power that Epstein was tapped into that a US attorney could be told to stand down. Wow. So was the, was, what was his name, Lesnar? Les Rexner.

Les Rexner. Was he the, was he the gateway to all the other powerful people that Epstein had intertwined into this web of elites? I think that he was one of the gateways. I think that Epstein probably had multiple gateways. Like Leon Black, head of the gateways, I think that Epstein probably had multiple gateways, like Leon Black, the head of the Apollo group. Epstein got $156 million from him.

And how did that happen? Well, Leon Black just happens to be in Jeffrey Epstein's Black book, Glenn Dubin, another billionaire. He's actually circled. So what happened was the house manager ripped off Epstein's black book. This is how I ended up getting it. The house manager ripped it off, and he tried to sell it to one of the attorneys that was launching civil suits at Epstein, and then the attorney called the FBI and the FBI did a sting. But he circled a bunch of names that he saw had been involved with Epstein. Epstein circled them or the House manager did.

So Les Waxner's name had definitely circled. Bill Richards's name is circled. Bruce King's name is circled, Glenn Dubin's name is circled, George Mitchell, the former majority leader of the Senate, his name is circled. Marvin Minsky, a famous scientist at MIT, his name is circled. And a number of these people come up in depositions, a victim's deposition when she names names. So these names are popping up all over the place and it's all syncing up?

Yeah, I mean, it's, and one of the circle names is who'd Barack, the former Prime Minister of Israel. So any presidents names in there? Um, well actually, uh, Epstein has, I believe, 24 contact numbers for Clinton. And it's very obvious that Epstein was providing girls with Clinton. I mean, when Clinton was president, Epstein was going into the White House with girls, with women. I don't think that they were minors, but Epstein was definitely delivering women to, uh, Clinton when Clinton was in the White House with girls, with women. I don't think that they were minors, but Epstein was definitely

delivering women to Clinton when Clinton was in the White House. What's with the painting? Do you know the painting? Yeah, I know. With Clinton and the Blue Dress, I'd, you know, it's just that. It's Jeffrey Epstein's perverted sense of humor towards Bill Clinton, I guess. I'm sure that Clinton probably never saw it. What about, what other kind of paintings were there? Was anybody else we know? No, nothing like that. Okay. Nothing like Bill Clinton in a blue dress,

which kind of is a frightening thought. Is that the, yeah, we'll put it up on screen. It's great painting. It was very good painting. But I don't know why you want that painted. But keep going with the black book. I have so many questions that have... Well, you know what the black book?

So, I got the black book and like I had direct contact information to Bill Clinton or you know Mick Jagger's name was in there. You know the Kennedys there was a Rothschild. I mean the Soros' actually Soros' nephew was kind of taking over the Soros Empire. He was he served in the Black Book. So, how many names are in the Black Book? Oh, I would say a couple hundred, 200, 300? I mean, I'm talking like people that,

that have seen to business with, but then there's also the names of probably about 150 vacums too. So if you had to describe the black book, how would you describe it? I mean, was it handwritten? Was it typed? No, it was typed out. It was Epstein's, basically, all the connections that Epstein had made.

It was just a roll of X of people. Yeah, and like a thing that kind of indicates guilt, and I'm not saying that categorical guilt, but it indicates guilt, is the more numbers that Epstein had for you. Even if you weren't sort of like George Mitchell was named by a victim as a perpetrator. Who's George Mitchell? He was the head of the Democratic head of the Senate. When the Democrats, this is in the 1990s, when the Democrats had the majority leader of the Democrats.

So he constitutionally was the president pro tempore, which makes... So if the president goes and the vice president goes and the speaker of the House goes, then the majority leader of the Senate takes over. So constitutionally he was the fourth most powerful man in the country. And Ebbstein has like seven numbers for him. And then that girl came forward and said that, she'd been the less.

And you know, here's the thing about this though, you know, some of these gunnets, I mean, some of them are creepy, like Alan Dershowitz is creepy. Less waxener is creepy. But George Mitchell, he looks like a benign grandfather. I mean, I believe that victim and then Epstein was obviously doing business. I mean, I'd like seven numbers for George Mitchell. But he, I mean, he doesn't look creepy. It's weird. You know, some of these guys are very creepy and they don't look creepy.

A lot of them look creepy, but some just don't. Yeah. Yeah. You know, was there any notes or annotations or anything beside the names, or was it literally just like a phone book, a name, and then whatever numbers they had for all of them? Yeah, numbers. Okay. And then Alfredo Rodriguez circled the ones that he had witnessed and floored it taking

part. Was it all men? Um, Courtney loves name is circled. And I think Naomi Campbell's name might be circled too. Did were there any boys that were victims? Or was it all women or young men? Okay, so I have heard of boys But I've yet to find them okay at this point, but I've heard of them are the victims Let's talk about what it was like would you talk when you spoke with some of the victims were they

Were they eager to get information out? Were they scared? Were they scared? They were there. They're scared. I mean, in this scenario, you've got Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell saying, you know, if you talk, you're going to die. And then you see all these extremely powerful guys.

You see the Prime Minister of Israel or you see Bill Clinton. I mean, you know, these are people at the apex of power. And you're an abstinent Max Lvittodo, if you talk, you're going to die. And then you see these powerful guys, you're terrified. What about Bill Gates? Okay, so now here's what's interesting about Bill Gates. Our mainstream media, which has been very lackadaisy, Jeffrey Epstein, said that they met in 2011, I think. So, but there was actually an article from the evening standard in the UK from 2001 that

said that Epstein engaged for doing business in the 1990s. So chances are, if that article is correct, Epstein engaged new each other like approximately 20 years before mainstream media. Our mainstream media has just washed this up, cleaned it up. It's pretty disgusting. Well, don't quote me on this, because I think all of mainstream media,

it's completely corrupt, doesn't matter if it's on the right side, doesn't matter if it's on the left side. There is no middle side. But, you know, I believe it was a ABC correspondent that got fired who came out and said that she wanted to cover the story and right before she went on to cover it,

it was, hey, cut it, we're not doing this. Yeah. We're not gonna cover it. And, do you know what I'm talking about? this. Yeah. We're not going to cover it. And do you know what I'm talking about? Yes. Yeah. Did that happen? I mean, that's the only one that I've seen that's actually

public. It could have happened in other situations, but it's difficult to know. I mean, because again, we're talking why are people covering up for Jeffrey Epstein? Because they don't want to lose what they have and they're afraid of not getting what they want. And that's a strong motivator for people, a very strong motivator. They're mortgage payments, their car payments, the payments for their children's college, these are very

strong motivators for people not to do their job. Because in Epstein, we see a lot of people not doing their job and they're afraid. They're not like Michael Ryder, the chief of the Palm Beach Police Department. They're not like him who's, the chief of the Palm Beach Police Department. They're not like him. Who's going to do what's right? They're gonna weigh this. Man, I feel like this country used to be full of people do what's right.

And they're out there, we just have to, we just have to start collecting them, getting them together, giving them one voice. I believe that there's enough people that are out there that really want to do the right thing. But they've been offered a modality to do that. And that's why Epstein Justice, this organization that I've started is so important because we want to start getting the message out to people and say it's all right to come forward Actually, it's our duty to come forward our government is 18 and a betting challenge trafficking in the case of Jeffrey Epstein and like

Let's say someone lived down the block from you and you knew that they were eating and betting child trafficking. I mean, you would never trust them. You would never let your kids near them. And here a government is eating and betting child trafficking. I mean, so how can we trust our government? We cannot, we reach a point where we cannot trust our government. We can not, we reach a point where we cannot trust our government. If our government is that corrupt, we can, we can no longer trust the government. Um, yeah, I don't think it's a, if our government is that corrupt, I think it's a, our government is that corrupt and multiple arenas. And, but here's the thingBSTEEN justice, if we dig down into

EBSTEEN, we will come across the cesspool that I believe is contaminating other large parts of the government. And then that's where we can make meaningful change. At that point is we have to make sure that the government indicts those perpetrators and dices for cures and tells us why tells the American people why it covered up Jeffrey Epstein let's go back to the victims I was I got side

track there for a minute so it's were any of the victims eager to be forthcoming with them? No. No. Every victim was, and I've gotten to know a number of them, they're reluctant to talk. Were any of the victims... How long did it take to get names out of them? Oh wow, you know, it's like anything else where you've got to develop trust,

but I've done this before. I've done it actually quite a bit at this point. I mean, not only the Franklin scandal, but I've talked to lots of victims. So I've got a track record out there. You know, if here's a guy that does the right thing, that investigates this and does the right thing. So that's, and there was an Epstein victim that actually read the Franklin scandal. I was just an victim that actually read the Franklin scandal. So she realized that I was very concerned about this and really willing to do whatever it takes to get this out there, to get this information out there. So she was very, I mean, she offered me names, and then I've gotten to know others that

I've also offered names too But they don't you know, it's these these were little girls man that were terrorized and I'm seeing a Maxwell were you know there they were they were vicious to these girls I mean not even I mean some of these guys that were You know were violent, but abstinem actual were just mentally vicious of what ways to these girls. Oh, man, you know, they would make one girl like stand on a scale and Front of a bunch of other girls

at the island to make sure that you know, I mean the mind games that were played. I mean like some of these girls ended up at that island They didn't even know. I mean like Julia Bryant. She was in South Africa and she met someone who knew Epstein, and then all of a sudden she was on a trip to watch Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein and Kevin Spacey in South Africa. Bill Clinton was going to deliver a message in South Africa.

And then someone with Epstein said, you know, you're beautiful. Let's make you a model, come to New York. So she comes to New York and then the day that she arrives in New York, she gets a call. I believe it's from Sarah Callan, who should also be doing multiple lifetimes in prison. We're going to the island now. Pack your stuff. We're going to the island.

And then so she gets on Jeffrey Epstein's plane. She's been near, she hasn't been near it for a full day. She gets on Jeffrey Epstein's plane, and then they're flying to the island, and then all of a sudden, Jeffrey Epstein has one of the girls perform oral sex on him and Fernivaldi other girls. And what's she gonna do?

I mean, here's a terrified young woman who is, you know, 35,000 feet up in the air, going to an island, I mean, what is she going to do? She's never been in anything like this before. She's terrified. And that's the viciousness. So was it, was it, was it, was it like a kidnapping, were these women kidnapped?

Could they go home at the end of the day, or were they stuck on this island and his other properties? I mean, how was the living time? They could go home, but here's the thing. It's like, you know, cults. Cults keep people tethered to that organization, like the Unification Church or the Hare Krishna. Heavens, I mean, these cult leaders,

there's a very chrismatic person there. So these girls, I mean, some of them are like one and done and they're out of there, but a lot of them, you know, they're, they're, well, we're going to pay for your college or we're going to make sure that you become a famous artist or we're going to make sure that you become a famous artist, or we're going to make sure that you become a famous actress. I mean, all these carers were dangled in front of these girls.

And these girls, well, if I, after they'd already been indoctrinated, I thought if I just endured this a little bit longer than they're going to give me this, or I'm going to get that. But none of those promises ever materialized for any of those girls. It was, and that's the mind game of it too, is vicious. I mean, when I'd had anything to do with Epstein

and Maxwell, it was just categorically vicious to these girls, whether they were being panored to dirty old men or men that like to beat them up, and just the minors with the Epstein, I mean, being flown, coming from South Africa to New York City and being in New York City for less than a day, and then being told you're being flown to the island,

and then all of a sudden you're on this island and you've got no choice really. I mean how do they, how do some of the victims describe daily life on the island? Hellish. Hellish. I mean they had to sleep in like a dormitory a dormitory, and then they would be called for. And then sometimes, like with one of them who was ostensibly having weight problems, they would be just ridiculed in front of the rest of the girls. Simmiliated. Yeah. How many times a day would they have to perform sexual acts? It all depends on who was there.

And then they were expected to perform on Epstein too. And however many times Epstein wanted them to perform. So yeah, it was, I mean, once you were there, I mean, and a number of very powerful people were on that island. And these girls knew that. Sergey Brent, one of the founders of Google, was quite fond of Jeffrey Epstein, but there were other people other than Sergei Brent. There was a lot of Hollywood celebrities as well.

Well, there were Hollywood celebrities. Epstein was born into politicians and power. I think people know about Hollywood Babylon, but they don't know about Saddam and Gamora on the Potomac. But with the Epstein and also with the Franklin scandal, I mean, they panned our kids to Hollywood people, but they were primarily focused

on financial people and political people. Interesting. Interesting. But here's the thing with Hollywood. I mean, there's plenty of freaks that are pandering girls to people in Hollywood. Yeah. We just talked to Jim Kovizol a little bit about that. I'm hoping to talk a lot more about that with him in the future.

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And there, there have been a lot of names that have been released by different sources. Maybe it all came from you originally, but was every name in that book guilty of partaking and sexual activity with miners. No, there were a number of people in that book that were not. That book was just a book of all of Jeffrey Epstein's contacts and stolen by the Alfredo Rodriguez who was the house manager.

And, but a lot of the people, I mean, that was Jeffrey Epstein's thing. I mean, his thing was making money and molesting children. I mean, that was, so if you're in that black book, I mean, Jeffrey Epstein's relationships were all utilitarian. I mean, he wouldn't, if you couldn't help him, make money or molest children, he wouldn't have anything to do with you. So a lot of people in that black book

are there for making money or their prestigious. Do you think there's anybody that has been painted in a negative light because their name was on that black book that possibly maybe shouldn't have been. It seems like anybody who's associated with this guy, I've seen pictures of celebrities and presidents and with him at parties, but I mean, and people get outraged.

And, but, I mean, when you go to parties, I mean, it's easy for anybody, it's just a snap of picture of you, standing next to whoever, you might not even know who they are. And so, and so I'm just curious if there's anybody in particular that you think that has been, has been defamed

because of their association with them, maybe down even realizing who he was. When people ask me that question, I think of that Beatles line, see how they run. Um, according to everybody who's been interviewed in that book, no one had anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein. Good point. I mean, like, oh, you know, I met Jeffrey Epstein six years ago at such and such as party and I don't know how I ended up in that black book. I mean, that's what everybody's going to say or most people are going to say. Alan Dershowitz, who was quoted as having enough friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and Vanny Ferrar, I think from 2002.

Oh, yeah, I barely, and he's on Jeffrey Epstein's flight manifests and he just talks about how much he loves Jeffrey Epstein and our Jeffrey Epstein, and he's all his books. And oh, yeah, I think I saw Jeffrey Epstein in 2015. I mean, these people are obviously lying. I mean, they wanna do everything they can to distance themselves. And Jeffrey Epstein is the same as like Craig Spence in the Franklin scandal.

Everybody who was anybody came to Craig Spence's parties. And Craig Spence is quoted as saying, well, how will they deny that they ever came to my party? And I'm sure that Epstein, I've heard that Epstein had said something like that. Well, how can they deny that? That I didn't, because I was with the elite of society. So where is the black book now?

The FBI has it. The FBI did a sting. Alfred of Rodriguez, we talked about a little bit earlier, he wanted to sell the black book to one of the attorneys that was launching civil suits at Jeffrey Epstein. That was representing some of the victims. And he called the attorney and the attorney called the FBI and the FBI did a sting. And so the FBI has a black book. I was fortunate enough to get a copy of it. And then that was a copy that I released in 2015. So the FBI has the black book.

They've done nothing with it. Well no one's in it. Here's the Epstein's, when Epstein got taken down four years ago, the FBI opened a safe and he had hundreds of DVDs. And I'm sure a bunch of them had to do with compromising. And then he was, I think he was also into child pornography too. So we have no idea. So they have all the DVDs.

They have all the DVDs. They have the black book. They literally have everything. They have everything. And nothing is happening. What's your opinion of the FBI nowadays? Well, I mean, in this case, it's obviously unbelievably corrupt. The FBI knew, okay, so the FBI knew about Jeffrey

Epstein in 1996. We know that for a fact. Maria Farmer, who was assaulted by Jeffrey Epstein, and her sister was assaulted by Jeffrey Epstein, went to the FBI in 1996 and told them about Jeffrey Epstein. Now, and it's amazing. Think if the FBI had acted on Maria Farmers Information, think of all those girls that could have been saved. But I don't even know why anybody who has, I can't even imagine applying for a position at the FBI nowadays. Well, I don't understand what they do,

and I don't understand any red blooded, whatever, anybody within ounce of integrity in this country, I do not understand what the f**k they are doing working for the FBI. I don't know what they do now, And you know, except cover-ups. I do a lot of cover-ups. I have met some decent FBI agents over the years. I mean, I have.

Who are they serving? I don't know. You know, that's what, like you think you're doing something for the better, like for the good of the country. It's, but we're talking about, we're talking the Department of Justice and the FBI together. I mean, so the FBI had hundreds of DVDs of Epstein.

I'm sure a lot of them were compromised DVDs and I'm sure a lot of them were just child pornography. So they've gone into a black hole. I mean, you know, we talked earlier and it's these guys, oh, they're worried about their mortgage and their car payment and this and that. And it's like, sell your fucking car, get a smaller house.

What expense are you willing to car over these fucks up for? You know, there's kids being raped. It's your car. It's get a new job. But you know, people do not think that way. They, like I said, they're afraid of losing what they have or not getting what they want.

But now this is interesting. So when Epstein died, they said that the case was closed. So I did a Freedom of Information Act request. I didn't ask for the DVDs. I asked for reports on the DVDs. That was my FOIA request. And I eventually got an email back saying that the case was ongoing. So I don't know if those reports on those DVDs will ever come out. It would be great. I mean, then we'd be able to get a lot of answers. It's up to our government. Our government needs to get honest about this. And until it does,

I mean, we're going to be governed by the cesspool that we're currently being governed by. People that aren't concerned about doing the right thing, they're concerned about their money and prestige. And you see this, I mean, it's a historical trend. I mean, like the Catholic Church, Penn State, Boy Scouts, money, property and prestige. They will not, all those kids that were molested, all those kids, molestations that got covered up, they were all covered up so those organizations could perpetuate their money, their power, and their prestige.

And individuals are the same way. Let's talk about Maxwell. How did she play and everything? What was her role? Well, she was the one that was really hands on running the network, the logistics person. I interviewed in Israeli spy very R.E you Ben Manashi, on my podcast? And he's a spy, it's difficult to know if he's telling the truth or not. But okay, so her father, Robert Maxwell, had a publishing empire,

but he was also a spy for Israel and Russia and the UK and probably the US. And he had this huge publishing empire. And what he did was he went into the retirement funds, his employees, and stole them all. So Maxwell's dad was in his Rayleigh spy. Yes. It was running logistics for Jeffrey Epstein. No, no, you. No, no, no. So he was a spy, for sure.

And then he had a huge publishing empire. But his daughter was running logistics for Jeffery Epstein, who has been named by government officials that he's untouchable because he's an intelligence. Yes. So there's a line right there. There's an accessory, yeah. And Maxwell had a yacht called Lady Galaine,

which was named after his daughter, Glean, who was his favorite child. And he jumped off one day. And he had a very mysterious death, much like Jeffrey Epstein. Now, the cover story on it is that, I mean, because it did come out that he'd ripped off all these, the retirement funds of all these employees.

I mean, millions of dollars. I mean, he destroyed all these people. I mean, a guy obviously didn't have a conscience. And Dwayne Maxwell supposedly then came to New York to get away from it. And then that's where she met Jeff Rebson. Now according to this Israeli spiny that I interviewed, Robert Maxwell put Glee Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein together. And they were together even before he it's a very strange death.

So somehow, Maxwell and Epstein got together. And the story is that Epstein had the money and Maxwell had the connections. And I think that there's some truth there. And this guy was a spy for the Israelis the UK and Possibly the US and I believe he named another one possibly Russia. Yeah, and are all these do all these countries have people involved in this traffic England

Um With Jeffrey Epstein. It's really difficult. I mean Jeffrey Epstein was active in Europe for sure He was actually buying I mean we're not talking renting Jeffrey Epstein was active in Europe for sure. He was actually buying. I mean, we're not talking, renting. He was buying young girls in Eastern Europe, buying them like slaves. Yeah.

And when you think about that, how evil that is. We've covered this in other episodes about how trafficking works. But I believe you mentioned something about were there members in the UK government involved or in within the royal family? Okay, so definitely Prince Andrew was part of, I mean, he was pandering, Epstein was pandering girls to Prince Andrew, and who is a thoroughly repulsive human being. I mean, I did some research into him, and anybody that ever worked for the royal family family, Lowe's Prince Andrew. What was he into? What was he, what was his sale?

He liked underage girls. That was his thing. But he, I mean, he's just a nasty follow human being. I think a lot of the people in the Royal Family are probably nasty follow human beings. I think Andrew is probably a little special that way. He's probably a little nastier and more followed than his siblings because this is very strange. So here's a guy that's less underage girls, but he has all these

teddy bears. And the people, the Butler, or whoever takes care of the house manager, where he lives, they're supposed to have the teddy bears on his bed in a certain way and if the teddy bears aren't on his bed the way that he likes them then he has a connection so uh... he likes to molest little girls and then he likes teddy bears on a certain way on his bed so that's kind of uh... and according to and, he doesn't sweat either

according to the BBC interview. So, which really, I mean, there was that BBC interview where he tempted to acquit himself and he came across as such an idiot. I mean, you could tell that. It's like Jamie Diamond with JP Morgan. JP Morgan just gave Epstein's victims $290 million. And there was a New York Times article where Jamie Diamond was talking, and you could tell

that thing I was lying. I mean, it didn't take rocket science to figure out. And then, you know, he said, of course, we had nothing to do with every Epstein blah, blah, blah. And then, all of a sudden, there's this $290 million settlement. blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, How do you think they were involved? Well, I think that some of the executives in those banks, like Jess Staley, I mean, were involved in Jeffrey Epstein's pentafon network.

And why are they going? I guess we're in Diamond II. I'm kind of, I mean, it's so, if they sued JP Morgan and not the individuals, how was JP Morgan as a company involved in the Jeffrey Epstein, sex trafficking ring, rather than just the key players

that were, I mean, do you see what I'm getting at? Why wouldn't they go after the key individuals? And why did they go after the company, JP Morgan? Well, the argument that they made was that JP Morgan was cognizant of Jeffrey Epstein trafficking children and gave him the money to facilitate it. They gave him money to do other things, but with the money that JP Morgan gave Jeffrey Epstein, that facilitated his child trafficking.

I mean, do you think this was a protection where they're protecting certain people's identity by putting it into the conversation? Absolutely, just stale and diamond. I mean, without a doubt, I mean, it's pretty obvious that when you look into them, they were involved with Jeffrey Epstein. How were they involved?

I think that they were probably involved in less than young girls. I mean, that's my surmise on that. And, um, less than young girls. I mean, that's my surmise on that. And, um, and according to internal documents that were, uh, that the lawyers for the Epstein victims were able to acquire,

JP Morgan definitely knew what Jeffery Epstein was up to. Now, how would JP Morgan know that? Unless some of those executives were taking part in it. I mean, it doesn't make any sense that JP Morgan would not know about it. So, if those individuals like I've just named, weren't involved with Jeffrey Epstein. Were those names involved in the lawsuit? Were they mentioned in the lawsuit? They were mentioned, yes.

Okay, but it wasn't explicit, but they were mentioned, yeah. And then Deutsche Bank is also the same type of thing. They were aware of Jeffrey Epstein, and they're going to give up millions of dollars too. I think they're only going to give up 75 million. That's it. Yeah. How many victims is this going to be dispersed to?

We don't... I don't really know those numbers yet. But what's up, what's up, there's multiple tragedies here. But one of the major tragedies is $290 million isn't even going to dent J.F. Immorion. I'm well aware, but like totally agree with you. That's not the thing. I mean, it's like you are me getting like a parking ticket. So, that's a tragedy.

It's a tragedy that those executives were molesting these girls. It's a tragedy that a number of people that those banks knew that those executives from the last few of those girls, that those girls were getting molested and it's a tragedy that they're only giving up to $290,000,000.

The whole thing is a tragedy. But here's the thing with that is it's these little girls. I mean, they're the ones that are going to be scarred for the rest of their lives. Even if they get millions of dollars, I mean, if you talk to some of them, they're damaged. I mean, they're going to be damaged.

I mean, I'm not saying that, because I respect them, the ones that I've met, I respect, I really care for them because I respect them, the ones that I've met, I respect, I really care for them, I like them, but there's a damage there. They've got scars on their soul. I mean, when you rape an 11 year old kid. Yes. There's nothing that's going to get them over that amount of trauma.

No, and actually, they've ruined their entire fucking life. And actually, if you meet a woman in South Africa who's 20 years old and then you fly to Ebstin Island and she's forced to commit all kinds of things that she never would have otherwise? I mean she's you know she's not gonna have like the maybe the psychiatric damage of an 11 year old like with dissociation but she's gonna be damaged too. I mean none of the and that's the thing that the media these girls and these young women were all of them were very damaged by this. And we don't hear about that in the media. We don't, there's no cover stories of these victims in the media.

And the damage that they've had to endure, there's none of that. I mean, we just hear Salacious Dirt that Jeffrey Epstein met Bill Gates in 2011 or that Jeffrey Epstein hung out with Harvey Weinstein here. And, you know, but it's just, the media is just, just giving us a lachister.

They're not demanding for any kind of justice. Yeah. They're, they're, they're, they're just trying to save face by throwing a random piece of bullshit out about it. Like, oh yeah, we touched the subject. And, but I don't know if it's a, I mean, it elicits a readership, too. I mean, there's, and that's a thing what I'm doing with Epstein Justice is, and I got to say this, the

media have just been ethical unix about this whole thing. They haven't really cared about the destruction of all these girls, but they're keeping Jeffrey Epstein front page center, they're keeping him alive. They're reporting about him every day. So America, I mean, he's freshen the minds. Now, if he had died four years ago, and the media had just stopped completely reporting about him,

I would not be able to start Epstein justice because Americans would have forgot, but they've kept Jeffrey Epstein fresh in the minds of Americans. And there's enough Americans out there that are outraged. That's why Epstein justice is so important is we need to get Americans together and we need a Truth and Reconciliation Committee. We need the perpetrators to be punished and we also need to know why our government allowed perpetrators to molest underage girls.

We need to know that. The government has to tell us, I have a pretty good idea of why, but we need the government to tell us that. That's what a Truth and Regan Suleation Commission has been. Let's talk about Sarah Kellin, an associate of Epstein. And once looked at it being charged with similar crimes as Maxwell, but has never been arrested, I've never even heard of her. Sarah Kellin was, she was like Maxwell's first lieutenant.

And she did everything that Maxwell did. And she's a that Maxwell did. And she's a vicious, vicious woman. And actually, when the Palm Beach police department was going to arrest Jeffrey Epstein, they had those five girls that had come forward. They had statements from... They were going to arrest Sarah Callan too. They felt like Sarah Callan had participated enough

that they were going to arrest her. Nothing has happened to Sarah Callan. Actually, I called Sarah Callan because I had the black book I figured I'd do a recall. And she just basically, she complained to me about how the media had persecuted her. Did she have any... Did she have any ties like Maxwell's father?

Not that we know, but I think she just comes from my trash. And... She... I mean, I'm sure that she sexually catered to EBSD at one point, and then EBSD and said, well, you know, she's pretty smart and ruthless. So I'm going to use her, too. Why do you think they never went after her? They never went after any of the procures, except for Max. The New York Times, six per cures. I mean, Sarah Kellen, Nadia, Marcin,

Kova, Leslie, Graf, Haley, Robson. They were all named by, they're right there in the New York Times, named. And how, if this was real justice, if there were real justice here, it would be like a recon diamond. How the mafia was taking a part? You take the little fish and child trafficking is a 15 year to life sentence. So you indict Sarah Kellen on 10 counts of child trafficking, which wouldn't be that difficult. I mean, you could probably and I'd run 20 or 30, but just to and I'd run five or 10, have her look at, you know, five to 10 lifetimes in prison, she's going to roll over on the perpetrators. Everybody's going

to, anybody that's looking at five to 10 lifetimes in prison is gonna roll over on the perpetrators. You could have done that with all these procureers, which are essentially pimps. You could have done that with all of them. And a bunch of them are named right there in the New York Times. And none of them have had any problems at all. And actually, Epstein paid them all very well,

and they still have their money that they made from Epstein. Let's talk about Juliet Bryant. We've mentioned her a couple of times. Sorry, I need to go. Juliet Bryant was a victim of Epstein. I talked to her, she was in, she was from South Africa. And she was with Epstein flew her to New York and she kind of settled in and then they told

her that she was going out to the island. So, but she was in the new Mexican, new, Epstein's in Mexico ranch. And now, I'm a little fuzzy, but she kind of passed out or went to sleep, and then she came to, she says in a laboratory, and that there was a doctor that was harvesting, like in a hazmat suit almost harvesting her ovums. And I've always thought, Daly the sheep was cloned in 1997.

If you can clone a sheep, you can clone a human being. And actually people are getting like their French bulldogs cloned, for like $60,000, but it's estimated that you can clone a human being for $1.5 million. So, and I knew when Dolly got cloned, the sheep, there's gotta be Megalomania, egg billionaires out there

that are cloning themselves. There's got to be megalomaniac billionaires out there that are cloning themselves. There's just got to be. And that absting crew, I would not surprise if Julya Brian's Homes were getting harvested because those sick twisted megalomaniacs are cloning themselves. You think that these people are cloning themselves? It wouldn't surprise me. I mean, what would, okay, so what would prevent you from cloning yourself?

Ethics would be one thing, but these people don't have any ethics. So then it's just a matter of money. And what's $1.5 million to these guys? Nothing. So, unfortunately, there's gonna be probably a little Jeffrey Epstein's running around in 20 or 30 years. And...

...that's kind of one of the last things we need. Didn't he actually talk about spreading his DNA? He did and he was also into transhumanism. So who knows what was going on there? I mean, I think like would Juliet Bryant's story where she felt like they were harvesting in Rome? I think that that is, Epstein, the cloning, the transhumanism, I think that law enforcement,

if law enforcement never took this seriously, could dig there and would find out some very interesting stuff. What exactly is transhumanism? Transhumanism is like combining, like being able to download someone's brain onto a computer chip. Stuff like that. And now, we're probably not that far along with transhumanism, but you need people to,

I mean, for transhumanism to go forward, we're gonna need people to experiment with. And I wouldn't be surprised if that was going on. Because here's the thing, when you're molesting little girls, I mean, there's no line in the sand of what you're willing to do and not willing to do. There's no ethics there.

There's no morals there. You're gonna do whatever you want, whatever makes you feel good. And that's, epitomizes Jeffrey Epstein, this crew, they're doing whatever they want and they're protected by the federal government. So they can do whatever they want. It's pretty heinous.

Nick, I'm just going to run through a couple of questions here, but why do you think the names on Maxwell and Epstein's list have not been publicized? None of them. On their list. Yeah. What list is that? On the on the black book? Why do you think it's never been officially publicized by any of I mean, you know, we hear about the Maxwell trial Epstein supposedly killed himself, but and But nobody's coming There's no not one person's been charged with pedophilia.

Well, I mean, that's our government. I mean, our government has done everything I possibly can to cover up all these crimes. And that's why we need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission. I mean, we, the American people, have to force the government to actually pursue these crimes and then go after these perpetrators and then tell us why they're protecting these perpetrators. We need that too. We need a why, although I have a pretty good idea of Y, but we need the government

to tell us why, so this doesn't occur anymore. This happened with the Franklin Scalant's Heppo, the Epstein has happened in a lot of different places. We have to make sure that our government doesn't cover up child abuse anymore, child trafficking. We have to make sure that our government has that fundamental level of decency to not cover up child trafficking. I mean, that should be a line in the sand. That should never be crossed by our government. Do you think the government enabled Epstein to commit these crimes over the years? Absolutely. There are reports of, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there reports of CIA directors staying at his New York town home? Oh, I mean, yeah, I mean there was a lot of people that stayed with with Epstein

Actually Woody Allen and Epstein were good friends to ethical unix. There's pictures of Woody Allen and Jeffrey Epstein walking down the street together. Like there's pictures of Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein walking down the street together. But what we have to do is make sure that the government pursues justice here. We cannot sit back and say, okay, yep, Jeffrey Epstein and all his buddies, we're going to let them molest all these girls with impunity because they have power and they have money. We can't do that. I mean, this is a nation of laws. Laws have to apply to everybody. Regardless of how poor someone is, regardless of how rich someone is,

the law has to apply to everybody. This isn't about, unfortunately, we live in a system where it's often the best justice money can buy. In this situation, the laws have to apply to everybody across the board. And when you get into a very dangerous area, as far as a society, when you say, well, this law applies to him, but it doesn't apply to him. That's when you get into that type of moral relativism, it's very, very dangerous. And that's where we're at right now, is that type of moral legal relativism. Let's talk about some of the hidden cameras that have been, were there hidden cameras

it literally every property? Yes, we know about hidden cameras. The first glimpse of hidden cameras came when the Palm Beach Police Department executed the search warrant on Epstein's Palm Beach House in 2006. Now, Epstein had been warned that search warrant was getting executed, but he didn't get rid of all his hidden cameras because the Palm Beach Police Department found hidden cameras.

of all is hidden cameras because the Palm Beach Police Department found hidden cameras. Now in his New York digs and that huge townhouse he had, there was an actual room with multiple monitors. Earlier I was talking about Craig Spence of the Franklin scale, had a room of monitors. Okay, so Maria Farmer and also there was one other victim that was brought into the room by Epstein. And there were guys as in multiple men looking at the monitors. And the monitors had all the bedrooms and all the bathrooms. And it was Virginia Goofrey, who was also shown the room. So that's a conspiracy

right there. I mean, you've got guys sitting in this secret room looking at monitors. I mean, that shows that there's people colluding with Jeffrey Epstein as far as like the blackmail. I mean, that's a smoking gun right there. But then his island was a wire fraud, in Bishop Blackmail, though it was an article in Bannity Fair where Maxwell had said that there's blackmail involved. A referent of Maxwell said that. And would New Mexico, yeah. It's everywhere we're Jeffrey Epstein,

Panned Minors, there was cameras. Where do you think all this footage is now? Do you think it's with the FBI? Do you think it's with the CIA? Yeah, I mean it. Do you think it's, it's either the FBI or the CIA, one or the other? Do you think people are still actively...

Who did the blackmail get passed on to? FBI or CIA? I mean, now we're not talking, we're talking in some dark malignant corner. I mean, it's still got to be, I guess what I'm getting at is, it's still, the blackmail is still being utilized by somebody. I mean, it's very obvious it's a blackmail operation. So what I'm asking is, you know, Epstein's dead supposedly. And so who's controlling the blackmail? It's that dark malignant corner of intelligence that did the Franklin scandal, that oversaw

Epstein. There is some dark malignant corner. I don't even, you really can't call it the CIA because there's a lot of people in the CIA that are decent people. And you really can't call it the FBI because I in the CIA that are decent people. And you really can't call the FBI because I do believe that there are decent people in the FBI too. But there's some dark corner of our intelligence that has that information.

But what's troubling is that dark corner has the power to make a US attorney stand down, when only, constitution constitutionally the president and the attorney general can make a U.S. attorney stand down. So that dark corner of intelligence, that malignant dark corner of intelligence harnesses a tremendous amount of power. But I don't think it's that many people. I mean, that's the thing.

I mean, how many people can it be? I mean, how many people can it, I mean, 2000, 3000, 4000? I mean, you know, I don't know. It's what's interesting to me is, you know, I've worked in operations where there's me classified information and several of them. And, you know know the more people you tell the more Likely there's gonna be a leak and when we talk about the you know the operation and I'm grain to this You've been digging into this for 20 plus years correct, yeah, and And you know you you said it yourself. You've got pilots. You've got

You've got pilots, you've got... Crook. You've got really low level people that were involved one way or another. I mean, you have the people that were on, you have the people that were on the runway. You know what I mean? That's the direct to the plane to take off. You have the pilots. You have whoever was clean in the properties. You have all these low level type people

that know what's going on, but yet they've managed to silence all of them. And then you have all the way up to everybody that partook in it, that black book, I don't know how many names are in there, there's gotta be a ton of them. I've seen different things, I don't know how many names are in there, there's got to be a ton of them. You know, I've seen different things. I don't know what's real and what's not anymore on the internet, so I don't want to give

any sources, but I've seen documents that have lists of just names, lots and lots of names. And those people are all silent. Then we're talking about four different countries that have been involved with Epstein. They're all silent. And so it's almost a miracle that more isn't out on this. Well, there's so many people involved. That's because our government has made sure. That's this government though.

It's... And actually, I think the Brits and the French have followed it. I mean Jean-Luc Bernal who was one of the pedophiles that he ran a modeling agency for Epstein and he was responsible for funneling underage Eastern European girls to that Epstein network. The French came after him, but he hung himself in a cell. Then we know about, certainly Prince Andrews' role in Epstein. He gave Virginia a few millions of dollars, or as mother did. It's kind of weird that he's being bailed out by his mother, still he's 60 years old. I guess that's how things work in the royal family. But anyway, law enforcement isn't gonna pursue

people in the UK. I mean, Jean-Louis Brinnell, who hung himself in a French cell. I mean, he was instrumental to Jeffrey Epstein's network. But the French don't seem to be interested in, He was instrumental to Jeffrey Epstein's network, but the French don't seem to be interested in why young himself or who he was facilitating. So our government has done a real good job of making sure that there's no investigation.

Do you think he killed himself? You know, okay, so I'm talking to people that have been at that prison and they say that there's no way that, especially because he tried to kill himself earlier. And he did, where? At that prison. And then they put him in.

I've been told that there's no way if you're on suicide watch, you can kill yourself in that prison. But I try not to get bogged down in that because that's not really the issue here, whether or not he killed, I mean, if he killed himself or didn't kill himself, I mean, that's just one more component of corruption.

The really important issue is we have our government eating and betting child trafficking. That is the issue that we need to take care of, not whether or not Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. We need to take care of the government as gotta come clean, as gotta indict these perpetrators, and it's also gotta come clean, why it's doing this. Well, I'm with you.

I do think it's a big piece of the puzzle. I mean, like I said earlier, the judge that they tried to assassinate, I think they killed her husband and her son. Her husband or somewhere, and then he supposedly killed himself. Yeah. You know, and then it was done. And then it was done.

There was, there was any mention in the news anymore. Yeah, that was, that was the assassination attempt on the judge. That was about a 24 hour news cycle before that was launched. Yes. I love to get that judge on here. But I would too. I'd be very reluctant.

I think that should be very reluctant to talk. But what do you, I mean, what do you, so we know it was a blackmail operation obviously. What do you think, after everything you've dug into, what is the blackmail operation? What is it for? Is it just power? Is there a specific agenda?

And we already have multiple lines of connections here with the US government, with the Israeli government, with the UK, with France, you know, what is the, who's running this? Okay, so who is, I think what I'm getting at is it sounds like Jeffrey Epstein was in intelligence asset for, in international intelligence asset. It's, it's possible. Yeah. I mean, I think that the C.I. was certainly involved in probably Israeli intelligence too.

It's the, I do believe. And, you know, I hate buzzwords and stuff like that, but you can call it the medical or the military intelligence complex. Why do we spend so much money on the military compared to anybody else? Why do we sell far more weaponry than anybody else? Why does our government

Kellogg-Grounen route in Afghanistan, that Afghanistan war went on for 20 years and these private military contractors made billions of dollars. Dinecorp, another military contractor. Dinecorp was actually trafficking girls, underage girls, and the Balkans. Got busted. There was a movie made about it with Myroservino.

Dinecorp didn't skip a beat. That wasn't even a speed bump for Dinecorp. I've never heard of that. Yeah, so this is the problem, is you've got the people at the upper echelon in the military in the intelligence and probably in finance too, that there's a collusion. And this is another reason why we need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission. So what do you think the goal is? Is it control? It's control and power. I mean, that's always been the goal.

For any autocrat or immoral government is control and power. I mean, you have to be thinking about this as you're digging into this stuff. I mean, who's the puppet master? I think that there are probably, I don't think that there's one single guy. I mean, I look at it as like the media. There's six corporations that control, it's estimated 90% of the media that Americans invite. And they have to, they,

they all work it out. I mean, they make sure that there's certain truths that don't come out. And I think that there are probably groups of people that work the same way, that have the power. And I think that they're in the military, they're intelligence, and probably finance too. And that's why our government, we need to know why. The American people need to know why Jeffrey Epstein's perpetrators aren't indicted, and we got to make sure that they get indicted. We've got to know why the government is covering up, so this doesn't recur.

And who's the covering up for? Other than these perpetrators. I mean, these are fundamental questions that the American people need to know. We need to know this about our government. We cannot let this just slide and think it's gonna get better. That, oh, we'll just forget about this

and, you know, in 20 years things are going to be better. I mean, our politics are really corrupted. And we ostensibly have a two-party system. But just even to the former governor of Minnesota, he says it's just like professional wrestling. He said, we sound antagonistic, but that's just part of the script. We're getting paid by the same people. He said politics and professional wrestling are basically one in the same thing. It's all theatrics. Yeah.

The big uniparty. Yes. And I've, I've come to believe that I, at this point, I would, I've been voted for a Republican or a Democrat for years. And I mean, I'm a vote for Republican or Democrat for years. And I mean, I'd like to be able to vote for Republican or Democrat, but I don't trust. And we've got 435 representatives, we've got 100 senators.

I'm not aware of any representatives, I'm not aware of any senators that have called for a Truth and Reconciliation Commission into the crimes of Jeffrey Epstein. 535 federal legislators, not a single one, regardless of the Republican or Democrat, has called for any kind of Truth and Reconciliation Commission

into Jeffrey Epstein. 535, I mean, that's pretty astounding has called for any kind of Truth and Reconciliation Commission into Jeffrey Epstein. 535. I mean, that's pretty astounding when you think about it. That all our federal legislators are willing to let this slide. Well, the next one I have on here, I'm going to ask them. I will. I'll put them on the spot. What am I missing? What's something I should be asking you that I haven't asked yet? I just think it's really important that the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, that Epstein Justice is embraced by enough Americans so that we can have a Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

That is the only way that I think that we're going to be able to heal our government. Our government is sick. Our government, it's a cancer, it's metastasized. And you fight disease, there's three critical stages fighting disease. First, you need awareness of it, then you need acceptance, and then you need action.

So, Epstein justice, we have awareness. We need the American people to accept how corrupt it is. A lot of them have, but we need the American people in mass, and then we need action Awareness acceptance action. So Epstein justice dot com is a 501 3c Non-profit organization dedicated to establishing truth exposing the corruption in Confensating the victims of Epstein you can sign the petition and contact your representatives Do you guys make it easy by chance to

contact a form letter there and people just have to put their name in and then and where they're where they live and then it'll go and then they just hit submit and I'll go right to the representatives, the federal representatives. Oh, so it's automatic. All you have to do is just boom and then it gets to where it needs to go. The National Center actualitation. And you put that together. Gave a set. You saw for you and your team did. Yeah. Well, the National Center on Sexualized Procitation gave us that software. So that was awesome. And then what we have to do is just really press. This is an issue that we just really have to press. Because every American knows, I think most Americans know that something is wrong with

their country, something is wrong with their government. People know that. I think that this is going to be our best opportunity to fix the pathological problems that are involved in our government at this point. This is going to be our best opportunity in our lifetimes. I think the only way to save it is to get people running who don't want to run. The only guy that I know that I really respect and trust in there right now is Elykrain. is Eli Krain, you know, and he's even voted against his own, what, how do I say this? I mean, the guy's even, I mean, he voted,

he votes for who, what the people that elected him want him to vote for. I mean, he's the only one in there that I know that does that. I mean, he voted against what he wanted to do because the people that voted at M said, we don't want that. We want this and one against his own intuition, you know, and that's about, I think you just don't hear that anymore. I've seen justice needs people like that. We need politicians that are corrupt.

We need people to come forward in federal law enforcement that are in corrupt. We need the American people to get behind this. And we really need to clean out a government. to clean out a government. Anybody in our government that has anything to do with this really needs to leave. And yeah, we do need new people. But we need people coming in in a system that's not thoroughly perfidious and corrupt. Which is the system we have now, a blackmail.

That seems to be the checks and balances of our political system is blackmail. So we need new people in politics, but we also need them to come into a system that isn't just categorically corrupt. Yeah, I'm with you. I think that's gonna be extremely difficult to accomplish, but gotta keep a little hope. So, you've got kids.

Do we want our kids growing up in this world? No. I mean, people have to not only think of themselves, but they have to think of their children as growing up in this world. So it's important that we rectify this. Yeah. Well, Nick, I really appreciate you coming out and educating us on the topic. And I hope to see again, I'm going to keep hitting this topic.

So any new developments you have, please contact me. And I will be happy to have another conversation with you at any point in time about this subject because it's just... ...enrages me. And thank you for having me. I enjoyed my tour of Tennessee. So thanks for having me.

It's my honor. That's the luck tip. Thank you. Thank you. Bye.