Shawn Ryan Show - The Afghanistan Crisis

Episode Date: August 31, 2021

Former Green Beret Tu Lam of Ronin Tactics talks about the Afghanistan Crisis. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website - https://www.shawnryanshow.com Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/VigilanceElit...e TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnryanshow Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/shawnryan762 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:27 In my next two episodes, I talk with my friend, former Green Beret 2 Lamb. We talk about the situation in Afghanistan, the disaster of us pulling out, and what that means for China. This is not my typical content. If you want to see more content like this, I need you to go to iTunes Leave me a review even if it's just one word. I need to know if you guys want this. Would that be and said?
Starting point is 00:01:57 Let's get on with it. Hey, how's it going to? Good seeing you, man. Wish it was under better circumstances, but thanks for taking the call. And so kind of what we're doing here, we got two lamb here, former Green Beret, retired Green Beret, and me and Tube have been having a lot of offline conversations about what's
Starting point is 00:02:27 going on in Afghanistan and maybe even more importantly than that what that means for China now that we're leaving. And so we're just going to give our perspective. Some of these we're going to do a little series here. Two is going to put some videos on his YouTube channel depending on how we wind up breaking this up to different subjects. And I'll be putting this on my YouTube channel obviously. The version if you're watching this on YouTube, this is the YouTube friendly version. We're doing an uncut version over on Rumble.
Starting point is 00:03:11 We're just able to talk about a little bit more in depth on what we would like to get out to both of our audiences on Rumble. And so if you're interested in the uncut version, it's over there. And I'll link it in top comment and in the description of this video. But anyways, two, I, you know, we talked about doing this video
Starting point is 00:03:40 and sharing some of our thoughts, concerns, and what this means for China and for our country. And I wish we could have done this a little sooner, but I think it's best that we waited a little bit and kind of gathered and collected our thoughts rather than done this on pure emotion. And so we got a little timeline here or a guideline of what we're going to do. And we're going to start with Afghanistan. Kind of what that means with us pulling out how the
Starting point is 00:04:16 plan sucked, how a little bit about the Taliban, what could have been done, maybe a little bit better. a little bit about the Taliban, what could have been done, maybe a little bit better. And then in a separate video, we're going to move on to China, you know, and what that means for them and everything that's been happening in the past, what year and a half, and even before, before it was the main topic of discussion here. So I'll let you kick it off with what just happened just a few days ago. Yeah, man, first I want to send out my prayers to our troops out there. Maybe come home safe. And God bless our Marines and Corpsmen, their families.
Starting point is 00:05:02 God bless them and hopefully everybody comes back home safe. Man, that's the biggest concern for me. Let's just talk about Afghanistan, man. You know, people don't understand why Afghanistan was such a key terrain in the global war. And when I said that is, you know, people think it was us going in and eliminating, you know, a solo bandline. And that was one of it, you know, he was the mastermind behind, mastermind behind, you know, Okita and being able to execute that, you know, be able to execute that attack on America.
Starting point is 00:05:39 But for us to hold Afghanistan, you know, as a key train was key and the global war, and that's what people don't understand. And for the last 20 years, we've been fighting this war where we took the Taliban out of official government and they've been hiding in caves of north. Now they're coming down, now they're in Kabul, and now they're established themselves as a government system. So that's a huge concern for me because now you know other superpowers when I say that is you know China, Russia, they're
Starting point is 00:06:15 recognizing them as a government system which is you know she she are a law which is you you know, it's, it's, it's not pleasant, man. You know, I mean, it's now your recognized terrorism as a form of government and that's going to echo throughout the world. I am, we're negotiating with them. You know, there's a lot of speculation on when I hear kind of the left side's argument and I read in the comments section, which I try not to do, but there's a lot of, well, we've been doing this for 20 years. And so what's the difference now
Starting point is 00:06:59 with the decision making and the consequences that are happening? I think a lot of people don't understand what the difference is between what's happening right now and what has happened in the last 20 years. And while the last 20 years were far from perfect, they were definitely effective. And the major difference here is we're no longer on the offensive role.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And when it comes to those Marines that just died, they died because of a major poor decision-making process. The poor decision making process on how we pulled out and then and and and and and and and equipped Taliban with the best war fighting equipment in the world. And leaving people there and now having to go back in and extract Americans and allied forces with one of the most well-equipped armies in the world now with what we left behind. I mean, we were talking the other day on the phone and they have what 200 helicopters now, Black Hawks, the patches. And you know, and there was intelligence, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:28 stating from the administration that they don't have, you know, the knowledge, the technical advances to even fly, whether now they have videos of, you know, the Taliban flying these helicopters, it's, it's happening, you know, and, you know, and helicopters is one thing, but when you have overhorizies strike capability, which is a drone, right? And they're known, there was intelligence that we left drones, that technology, and they, there was imagery of them tracking the Taliban, disassembling these drones, and then moving into the border of Pakistan.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And we know that China runs Pakistan because they have that, you know, the highway Pakistan corridor, you know. So they they they're working with Pakistan and Pakistan eventually is going to hand this over to China because China owns Pakistan. Pakistan's in depth to China. in the solar to China because China owns Pakistan. Pakistan stands in length to China. Yeah, China owns, it seems to be just about everything now. And whether you wanna admit it or not, and we're gonna get into that here shortly, but even some of the other equipment,
Starting point is 00:09:41 I mean, just for those Marines that are in there now. I mean before, and make no mistake, the Taliban and Al Qaeda and ISIS were all extremely effective fighting units. And one of the things that we're going to see now is when we left Iraq and the rise of ISIS happened, they were extremely well equipped. They had our armored vehicles. They had some of our weapons. Now, what we have is not just armored vehicles, but they have our body armor, they have our
Starting point is 00:10:17 guns, they have our eye or lasers, they have our night vision, they have our rocket launchers, our javelins, our drones, our helicopters, our VAs. Why we want the war, right? The elements, what kept us alive and what made us a superpower, now they have that technology. And in China, we always know anytime we went into China or operate around that region, we're dealing with the Chinese, We knew that, hey, we have to lock up this technology, because the Chinese is all about getting that technology. And now they have the blueprint. They have the blueprint in their hands now, right? So that's a huge concern.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yeah. And so you can imagine having to go in there and fight an already effective enemy now that is even just as capable as we are at this point, and they know the terrain. And they're more funded than any other organization in the world now because they have obviously the interests of China and Russia. And they don't have rules to play by. They don't care about rules. Yeah, unfortunately, 50% of the population here in the US
Starting point is 00:11:35 does care about rules, but they're gonna find out, you know, what it's like to not play by rules and what an enemy looks like as they start coming under, coming across the border. So, I want to talk to Afghanistan too, is that, you know, we had intelligence, man, we had eyes on in that region. You know, we had the capabilities of, you know, having operatives that we train for years, you know, Afghani operatives that meant that we had a humid intelligence capability.
Starting point is 00:12:09 We had a significant capability there we could find fix and locate these Taliban fighters. You know, we built this infrastructure that we just left behind and we left these allies, you know, defend for themselves now. And you know, that's heartbreaking. We left these allies, defend for themselves now. And that's heartbreaking, but in return, America should be concerned for our homeland security now because we gave them a country now to train, well-funded and equipped with the modern technologies
Starting point is 00:12:41 in a region we have no intelligence. We have no eyes, we have no intelligence. We have no eyes. We have no human capabilities. That mean we have no intelligence, gathering capabilities. Nor can we forward stage any offensive force within that region. Yeah, which actually, since we're talking about that now,
Starting point is 00:13:01 the latest drone strike that happened last night, how are they getting that intelligence? There is nobody left on the ground. Everybody is in escape and evasion mode now. Who's running the assets? Where are they getting this information from? Do you think that was even a legitimate drone strike? You know, I have my personal opinion, Sean.
Starting point is 00:13:31 You know, I just know that having worked at certain levels in the military, I know the ception. You know, I know how we deceive our citizens to please them. to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the
Starting point is 00:13:56 best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the best way to be the the best way to be the the best have to have a sage and source to find face and locate the mass of Ryan behind the planning. How can you Strike a mass of mine behind the planning by following a parade or drone feed, you know, yeah, yeah, I I'm very skeptical of Any intelligence that's coming out of there at this point.
Starting point is 00:14:25 With the, I mean, we've turned everything, everything over. You know, what we've turned boggermover, we've turned can-dhar air base over the only foot pole that we seem to have at this point is cobbler fort which is I mean it's it's you know and to me it's like we you know any military planning at the at the special operations level it especially is you know we have a primary alternate consistency emergency plan we have these plans that we fall into. We have contingencies these plans sent in place. We have phase lines on how we shrink a force, right? And it's not, um, gosh, man, you said it perfect this morning. You said, uh, you know, it's like a active
Starting point is 00:15:16 shooter. Can you say that again? You to our, yeah, you know, when people, there's a lot of, uh, you know, controversy on, you know, you know oh trump was gonna have us out may first yes he was gonna have us out may first but he also had a uh... a plan to make that happen what happened now is we just yank the rug out from under it and essentially what happened
Starting point is 00:15:41 uh... the the best way i can think of to describe it to civilian types is, let's go back to, let's say there's an active shooter in a school. You don't, and there's multiple active shooters, you don't. What we basically did is we went in and we pulled all of the teachers out and all of the police that are in the building. I don't know what you call them anymore, but the police that patrol the schools. We pulled them out first and we left the children there to die. That's exactly what the current administration did in Afghanistan. They they pulled they pulled the military out the protection
Starting point is 00:16:27 the offensive and defensive forces out and they left unarmed helpless americans and allies and afghans are counterparts there to die with no protection and we turned over all of our weapons to the taliban which took full advantage of it. And then we asked our war fighters to go back in there with a fully equipped Taliban that has everything plus more, you know, than a lot of conventional units have
Starting point is 00:17:06 and said go back in there and get these people. And intelligence, no intelligence. And now what we're seeing is, we're seeing civilians, former speck ops guys that are going in there and saving these people on their own dime risking their own lives and
Starting point is 00:17:29 that's civilians those are no longer active service members and so what we're seeing is we're seeing a population that's beginning to take matters into their own hands because whether the current administration is incompetent under somebody else's control, I don't know, but when he comes out and speaks to the audience
Starting point is 00:17:52 and says, I've been instructed to, or I'm sorry, I have to go, I have another meeting. You're supposedly the most important, most powerful human being on the planet. What meeting do you have that's more important than to address the American people? And so I guess what I'm getting at is what you're seeing is your sinks of billions starting to take matters into their own hands and that can lead to a very scary place when the population has lost complete confidence in our leadership.
Starting point is 00:18:34 You see a pattern here, Hillary Clinton left our troops in Libya to die when the annex got attacked. You see the same administration with the same executions on, it's okay to leave our Americans to die, to defend for themselves after being ordered by our country, you know, to for deploy under our orders, under his orders, you know, and the evacuation was not the issue. We knew we had the evacuates, but when do we ever evacuate 100% and any war, right? We left our troops in Germany, we left our troops in Korea, we left our troops, you know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:19:13 all through the world to stabilize that region and to gather intelligence, right? So we can't just strike an area and you know, having been one of the guys on the ground doing it before I understand how long it takes to build intelligence up. And you don't have intelligence anymore, because you don't have that infrastructure anymore. You don't have the ability to use the people because we abandoned them
Starting point is 00:19:38 now. And, you know, we withdrew. But that's going to echo in America because, you know, of the war, right? The war within our country right now, you know, to divide within our country with some waking up to what's going on and some are supporting the new ideology of America. But the thing is this, man, you got to worry about your safety because we've been a war for the last 20 years. The only thing that kept our country safe was our brave, you know, soldiers for deploying over and out of Afghanistan and the Middle East to try to stabilize that creates, we saw the blueprints. They want to take us down in America.
Starting point is 00:20:26 They have every plan to take us down in America. And then now we're negotiating with the Taliban, which is a declared terrorist group with the funding of China and Iran. I ran having nuclear capabilities. You know, it's really scary. Back to the relationships too. These, I think most people don't understand where intelligence comes from
Starting point is 00:20:55 and where all this information that leads us to to terrorist leaders and different cells and across the globe. It comes from the 20 years of relationships that we've built with Afghanistan, informants, sources, people that were being paid, bad guys that were being paid, that everybody, you know, that we were, it was a trade for information. And we developed these assets and these people that are giving us information over 20 years. Well guess what?
Starting point is 00:21:38 Because of the way that we pulled out, we just lost all confidence in any asset that we had flipped onto our side that was giving us intelligence. Now we have nothing. We have nothing. We've destroyed all of those relationships. And you know who's going to build those relationships now? China.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Did China close the embassy when we pulled out? No. They were open for negotiations with Taliban. They don't go by our rules, you see. I mean, the biggest enemy of democracy is communism. You know, we've been dealing with this since, you know, at the World War II. That's the rise of, you know, communism
Starting point is 00:22:22 and democracy, communism, size with socialism and dictatorship, democracy's freedom and equal opportunity. But the thing is that when we start losing our allies, and we build, and the communism, builds a stronger force, then the world is going to be dominated by communism, and we're going to lose our freedoms. And that's not just here. It's all of our allied forces. Like India, you know, that's border by Pakistan and, you know, China, they're, you know, us turning our backs in
Starting point is 00:23:01 Afghanistan is a huge border security concern for them. And we turn our back on our allies there too. So we're losing our footing within that region as well. If Asia doesn't want to deal with us, we lose our footing in that region. Now we lost our footing military-wise, intelligence-wise, homeland-security-wise, in the Middle East. We have them. We don't have that anymore. So, regardless if you are a supportive of Afghanistan or not,
Starting point is 00:23:33 it doesn't matter. I understand we need to withdraw, but there's a way that we've drawn, right? And unfortunately, that's going to hurt us in the near future. I think so too. Celebrate the Black Friday sales event at Woodhouse Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram in Blair. Step into a new Jeep that you can count on from the awarded new Grand Cherokee to the
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