Shawn Ryan Show - The Debrief with Shawn and Katie: #003 Headshot Don

Episode Date: January 31, 2020

Shawn and his wife Katie Jean take you behind the scenes of episode #003 in their new debrief series. They talk about what happens off the camera as well as who might be coming next. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website - https://www.shawnryanshow.com Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/VigilanceElite TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnryanshow Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/shawnryan762 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Woodhouse Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram in Blair is your trusted auto partner. Visit us off highway 30 in Blair or online at woodhouse Chrysler Jeep Dodge dot com. So that was a hell of an episode. Yeah, it was. Absolutely was. 003. Right. Done. Holy shit. Yeah. Why don't you tell everybody what the hell we're doing here though. Good point. Good point. Good call. Yeah. All right. So if you guys are listening, this is my beautiful wife, Katie Jean. Beautiful wife, Katie Jean. Hello. And so Katie is the one, she's behind the cameras and helps with everything in the business.

Yeah. But she's behind the camera. She's the one that runs them, runs the sound and I do all the editing. And kind of how this works is with our guests. We have them show up a couple days before the podcast so far that's what we've done that way we really get to know them we got to dinner sometimes we fill them some other content but really what it does is it just

gets everybody comfortable gets them comfortable with Katie because she's behind the cameras yeah it gets them comfortable with me. Little whining and dining. Yeah, little foreplay before the magic happens. But get everybody cozy. Yeah, so anyways, what we're gonna do is we're gonna do this Sean and Katie debrief after every podcast. And from actually from this point forward,

or from the next one forward. We're gonna do this right after the show is as soon as we Stop recording the podcast and they go on Their way then we're gonna that way it's everything's fresh in our minds and we're gonna debrief and whitewash the entire Experience what was going on behind the camera won't want on before the podcast and yeah All the dirty little

Yeah, there's usually a lot. Well, you know, maybe not all of them. All right, but Anyways, so if you like that go ahead and If everybody likes this if you like it. They may not like this whole thing if you like that, go ahead and... If everybody likes this. If you like it. They may not like this whole thing. If you like it, well fuck it, give us a like. Oh, if you do it. And you know, click that like button on YouTube and leave a little comments and...

Nice comments. How beautiful my wife is. Oh boy. But, okay fine, you can say how good looking I look too. I like that. Yeah, great. But yeah good looking I look too. I like that. Yeah, great. But yeah, leave us a comment, tell us if you like this or not and we'll continue to do it.

And if you don't, we'll still continue to do it. I don't know, maybe we'll continue to do it. But so we just wrapped up Don. Yeah, it's premiering tonight. Holy shit. I mean, what him and Pam and his kids have been through, his kids are grown now, but holy shit. Yeah.

It's a lot. I mean, thinking back, we saw Don, um, what we saw on our wedding, but then before that, we saw him when the incident happened, but then we saw him like two weeks before the accident. It was in December. Yeah, no, I remember. He came, it was like right before, he brought his in December. Yeah, no. It was like right before. He brought his Christmas present. Yeah. And I think he was the first one to actually

step foot in the studio. Yeah, that's right. He actually, we tried to film a fucking podcast then. He helped you hang the sign. Yeah, we tried to film the podcast then. And I was just like, dude, this isn't working. No. But, which is funny, because when we did that,

he was looking at my platoon plaques on the wall and saw that I was in Afghanistan in Kandahar when he got blown up. Mm-hmm. And I was, and then he showed, and he written a book about it Which we didn't even talk about in the podcast, but he wrote a book which CIA actually put the cabajon Man, well, you know, you can't find the book anymore. It's God, but

but um, but I remember seeing it. I was like holy fuck dude, like that happened right when I showed up. And I remember like touching like digging around in the car and I was like, holy shit, like somebody walked out of this. And just so you know, like just the windows alone on those vehicles, the fucking glasses like an engine a half thick or something. I mean, it's like every time you open and close a car door, it's like fucking doing a bench press with one arm,

which is why I'm so fucking buff, just kidding. But no, I mean, and then for us to put that together and wear the same place at the same time, and I had no idea agency was even there, but no, who Dom was, did meet him that trip, you know, and that was like a very small, I mean, smaller in this fucking town leopards fork, you know what I mean? Like way smaller. And I've heard you like, just from overhearing you with like other guys that have come through

even not on the podcast but just like you know coming by our house. That it seems that's like an ongoing thing. Like you guys have crossed paths. Yeah. And or you're just like you know an hour short of each other. It's like weird. Well shit look at Glover. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Glover. New fucking Met Gabe. I know. Right after Red Wing. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it's like, and for those you don't know, Gabe was,

was my best friend and he died recently. But, um, Glover was there. Right. On like, when Gabe got back from the fucking recovery mission, yeah, it's crazy. It is. This has happened so many times, but

but anyways, back to Don, I mean, holy shit, you know, like what he has been through in the fucking, it's so many different aspects. I mean, like, the health, the fucking, having your name smeared like that. I mean, the stress that they've all been through. The fucking stress from being prosecuted, like he's gonna be prosecuted

and they're gonna wanna put him away for like 20 fucking years with some shit. Man, it's crazy. It really is to hear their story, to hear Pam's side of the story and being there, being there when, together, when everything was going down, I mean, it's amazing.

First of all, it's amazing that, and a blessing that Don is still alive. I have never met anyone that has been shot in the head and is here to live about it and tell their story. And that right there is just a huge blessing. So, you know, thank God he's alive, but to see what they've been through and to see how he does struggle. I mean, going from when he was last year, you know, like before the accident and we all went out to like get candy one night, you know, and then to have him here and he can't taste anything now and he's got my brain.

Yeah. We went out to dinner almost every night and we go to the restaurant and it's like the only thing he gives a shit about is if something's spicy and then I think you asked him, like, what's the deal with the taste? Yeah. And he was like, man, like I can't fucking taste anything

anymore ever since I've been shot in the head. Yep. Taste is like gone. He's like, shit, I used to like actually taste anything anymore. Ever since I've been shot in the head, my taste is like gone. He's like, shit, I used to like actually taste like shit now, or he can't taste anything at all. And so the only thing you can get is like that sensation of like his fucking tongue burning from the chest. Or the sweets.

And we narrowed it down. His candy of choice is strawberry twizzlers. So we got like a boatload of those one night. Well, I ate all those. Oh, yeah, but when you decided to share with him, he was able to taste it. Yeah. Yeah.

But yeah, I mean to see him and how many takes it took to do the podcast? Well, I mean, shit, even when we went out to dinner, every time we left the house, he got dizzy and we would have to sit down and take a break, which is really fucking weird for me to see. You know what I mean? The dawn, I know, in deep shit out in the middle

of fucking Kabul, Afghanistan, and he's racing out to the scene like ready to die for me. And now, and that wasn't even that fucking long ago, you know, it was not even that long ago. And to see it now where it's like, man, I gotta sit down, dude. Like, I got fucking vertigo real bad.

And, or like, like, all of a sudden I got this migraine and it just like sucks to fucking see that. But he's still in there. You know, he's the same Don. This sharp is fucking sharp as a knife. I mean, here's a, it's none of these things are permanent at least.

You know what I mean? Like he's still the same Don. He just isn't the same Don for, you know, 24-hour straight. He's got to take breaks now. And that sucks. And I know how, I mean, I don't know, but I can see the fucking frustration in his face when it's happening. It's demoralized him.

Yeah. And that's what was happening when we were trying to film it, you know, the first couple times and he was, three times. Yeah, he was getting really upset with himself. Yeah. So, but we were able to finally get it and it was great.

It was a great podcast. Yeah, he's, I mean, he's been wanting to get that story up for a real long time. Yeah, he's, I mean, he's been wanting to get that story out for a real long time. Yeah. And his relief after the fact. Yeah, I mean, I mean, he's been wanting to do this for a long, long time. He didn't know if it was the right thing. And, you know, he wasn't, he didn't want to go out and, and I was like, Hey, man, whenever man, whenever you want to do it, we were going to make a documentary. Yeah. But you still might, at some point maybe.

Yeah, we'll see. Like, that would be pretty cool. Yeah. But yeah, three takes. Took three takes. I mean, you remember when we were talking about when he was an Air Force, one of the one of the ones previous we were doing, we were trying to get through his military career and he just couldn't focus. And one minute he's

talking about how he was a seer instructor in the Air Force, and stripping people down naked, and putting them in a fucking cage, and the freezing cold into the fucking river, up in Vermont, there's wherever the hell it's at, Washington, actually, I think it is. And, and, and the next time you know, he's talking about his dad being a mechanic. Yeah.

And I feel like way off. Way out there. And I, I felt like way out there. And I felt like such a fucking dickhead, but it was like, dude, Don, I hate to say this, but like nobody, and I'm sure dad was awesome for a good mechanic. And a great mechanic, but nobody gives a shit. Like you're here to tell your story.

It's stick to it. If this thing gets to be five hours long, nobody's gonna listen. But to see the frustration on you. I know. It just, it like sucked. And then, and then the headaches will kick in. And the dizziness will kick in.

You have to call it. And then round three though. Yeah, that was a hit. Me and you made a game time decision like, hey, fuck it, like no childhood, no military career. Cut right to it. The majority of his career was CIA anyways. And the real reason he's here is he wants to get...

His story heard. That out. And I think it's going to be very well received. Yeah, me too. And I wish, I kind of wish the cameras were still rolling at the end because to see you guys like hug it out at the end and feel like the emotion in the room, that was really cool. Oh, man. in the room, that was really cool. You know? And he was so relieved and just happy to have his story finally heard. You know?

Just the fact that he slept that long. I know. That night. Sleepy had dawn. Yeah. I mean, just, I mean, you know, I have fucking problem sleeping. Yeah. You do.

And Soto's pretty much all of my friends. But to see him, and we wake up at the ass crack, and Don, and there's fucking Don every morning, like, wide awake. He started the coffee. Just because he can't, no, yeah, yeah, I remorning. Yeah. Because he can't fucking sleep and then at the day of the podcast,

we have breakfast. We like, uh, have some coffee. It's like 9.30 in the morning and it's like, is this my little fucker gonna get up or like, what the fuck? Like, it's a weekday. Yeah.

I got shit to do. And, but he, that's not a coincidence. No, no. And then to see him, I mean, he literally broke down. Yeah. As soon as like, the record button hit, got hit for the second time, and everything was offline,

I mean, incredible. Yeah. And actually, when I was doing the edit on the very last portion, you can hear him breathing, and he goes, really? Yeah, and I tried to keep that in there and try to keep the camera rolling long enough

to or keep the edit long enough to make you could get that in there. And I think I did, but I mean, you can see it. You can see his mouth open and like take that gasp and like that, it's like that fucking relief all went out in one breath because then you hit record on the cameras, the sound, everything's off,

and he couldn't hold it in any longer. He broke down, gave us a big hug and was just like, man, I just can't thank you guys enough. And that was really cool. Yeah, I mean, that alone made the whole Experience like that much better. I mean just oh absolutely No, that he was able to feel that because that's I mean And to see him sleep so long the next day. Yeah, but it was all relief. Yeah, and

And I hope he gets what you know, he wants out of the podcast. They'll go fun me going. But... Well, and just from this morning alone, when you released the audio part of the podcast, we've been getting emails, you know, sent to operations that people are hearing a story and on iTunes and they're already reaching out to us saying like how can we help Don? How can you know what can we do? So that right there is huge and with tonight's premiere. I mean I'm sure more people hopefully are going to be reaching out and seeing what they can do.

They're going to reach out. Yeah and I just hope more stories are going to come out about that police department. And it's scary. It's scary to hear that, you know. I hope more stories don't come out because of what's going on. But a lot of stuff is already surfaced.

Yeah. And I just hope that this reaches or not this, but the episode 003 will hedge out down. Like, I hope that goes to, I hope that gets in front of the eyes that it needs to get in front of. And somebody with some real fucking authority who actually gives a shit sees that and it's like I need to fucking I can make a difference. I can get a hold of him and fucking make a difference.

And nobody should have to go through that shit. No, I know. And it makes you realize like how many people are going through it and you know, I mean, yeah, how many people are in the system right now? Yeah. Because of incompetence. Mm-hmm. I mean, it's a real shame. It's fucking sad.

Yeah. Just fuck to think about. And especially, you know, to somebody like him. I mean, in this restraint that he has, like, the fact that nobody got shot after they fucking blew his car up is amazing. And the fact that nobody got shot when he came to my aid, I can't say things would have been the same,

if that would have been me. Right, that was the Red Speaker story, correct? That was the Red Speaker story, I can't say things would have been the same if that would have been me. Right, that was the Red Speaker story, correct? That was a Red Speaker story, which we made into a fucking joke, but it wasn't a fucking joke. Yeah, I could imagine. And that's just kind of how we deal with shit, we just blow it off. But anyways, I hope somebody or something comes of that.

Yeah, I do too. But. So who's next? I don't know. We got a big list going. We do, but we already know who's on the list. I know. But I don't know who we don't have anybody scheduled. We wanted to see how these

three went first and... Right. And I guess it's time to start reaching out to some people. But... Can I just say though, I really want Mike Ritland. You want Mike Ritland? I want Mike because I've never met him. I think it'd be cool to meet him. But really selfishly, I just want to see if he can teach Griffin how to sit. The damn dog doesn't know how to do anything except eat his own shit. But if we could teach Griffin or if Mike could teach Griffin how to sit, it would be mind blowing. Of all the things you could teach Griffin, our 77 year old dog. Yeah. Dog ears. You want to teach him how to sit.

I don't even care. It's been so long he can't sit, but to see Mike teach him how to sit, if he could actually do it, it would be amazing, really. He'd be like full-blown dog whisperer. I'd rather say I'm a teach griffin' how to not eat his own shit so much. But that's just, I mean, he's great at cleaning up the backyard though.

There's no doubt about that. He's totally organic. He's a green dog. All over the land. He just recycles and recycles and recycles. God bless him. How many times do you think you've done so far? I don't know.

You've asked me that numerous times and I don't have an answer for you Well, I would be curious one day you just might find out but I Want to have Mike on to Mike. If you listen to this Please teach our dog Griffin To quit eating his own Rookie do oh, man. Not my proudest moment of being Griffin's mom, but yeah. We got a lot of good requests too though.

Now, someone, you know, but I'm, and I think you're, are the same way, but. I'm not really looking for the guy with the biggest fucking Instagram following. I actually, to be honest, I could give two shits about that. I know, you tend to go the opposite. Well, you know, that's what everybody does. They get the fucking, it's like,

oh, someone's always got fucking 250,000 Instagram followers. Who gives a shit? What's the story? And has the story been told 50,000 fucking times on the podcast circuit? Probably. You know what I mean? And in a lot of times, it's the same exact story.

And it's like, you know, if you're not going to come here and open up, then I don't fucking have a place for you. Yeah, I know. I know. I know you've got that way. And the other thing is, and I'm one of them, you know, I've been on the podcast circuit. And let's get some fucking new blood in here. Yeah.

Like, look at Kennedy. I know. That dude came out of nowhere. I know. I didn't even in here. Yeah. Like look at Kennedy. I know. That dude came out of nowhere. I know. I didn't even know him. No. It was a reference. He had called, because Jeff Reed had referred us, and he had just called to get like

some, like no shit, just some tips on him starting a business. Yeah. And I was like, well, I don't usually talk to people about this, but here's what I would do. And sure shit, six months later, he's sitting in that fucking chair like we're best friends. I know. And it's cool to see where he's headed now. And we've sent him a boatload of training, like tips and inquiries and all that. I mean, and they're actually panning out, you know, the people that have emailed us and I'm like,

nope, go right to Travis and they're actually doing it. They're linking up, which is great. That's awesome. It's so awesome. And he's current, you know, he's current. Then I, he's fresh out and I mean, I haven't been out that long, but you know, he's a little current. Then I, he's fresh out and, I mean, I haven't been out that long, but, you know, but whatever, you know, it's awesome. Like, to see his business turning,

he's at a turning point right now. It's really, really fucking cool to see. But I like guys like that, that they're new to the game, they're fresh out, they're kind of looking for maybe a little bit of exposure. But. Well, your friend that you had just mentioned too, I know you want to get him out.

Kali mayoral. Yeah. So Kali was at SEAL team three, we went through Buds together. And nobody knows. Now we outside of the SEAL community and you know, in his family and friends. But I mean, it doesn't have like a big social media presence,

but I'll tell you what, the guy is one of the baddest motherfuckers walking this planet, I can tell you that right now. I remember you told me some stories. Dude, his time in the fucking SEAL teams is like, His time in the fucking seal teams is like, his story is amazing and heartbreaking. And then fast forward when he gets out and his transition into civilian life,

I mean, that shit is darker than mine. And mine got pretty fucking dark. I mean, and his is darker than mine. Yeah. And mine got pretty fucking dark. Yeah. I mean, and his is darker. I mean, I don't want to say anything because I don't know what he wants to open up about. Don't know what to share. Right.

Or if he's even going to come on, but, you know, I, that's what I'm talking about because that's what gives other people inspiration. Yeah, and hope. And whatever he's got going on, when he comes here, you know, if he comes here, then it will be to his benefit. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Oh, for sure. We're not looking to write anybody's fucking coat tale on the following train. I know. Any means. Yeah. And we want fresh material from real fucking people.

But I'd like to get a Nashville firefighter on. Yeah, that would be cool. We get a lot of emails from firefighters, policemen, but yeah, that would be really that would be great. I would love to get a firefighter on who's done something. I mean, I know all of them do go way above and beyond, but I would love to get a firefighter on who's done something. I mean, I know all of them do, go way above and beyond, but I would love to get, like, who's the baddest motherfucking firefighter

in the Nashville area? Or actually, anywhere. Yeah. You know, and I just said Nashville because we're pretty much in Nashville. Right. But, so it'd be kind of cool to get like a local hero. But that would really, that would be very interesting.

But like not tied to September 11th or are you looking for like for something more? No, I mean they could be tied to September 11th. But you know, there's so much attention on September 11th and I am not taking away from that at all. Right. And obviously it changed all of our lives, but there are you know, it's been It's been almost 20 years since September 11th

It like and there's new blood out there who have guys who have done magnificent fucking things Yeah, saved shit tons of lives and I'd love to get somebody like that on here. That would be great. Well, this is a good way to Start the buzz. Yeah, so if you're a firefighter and Nashville and you know who the baddest motherfucker and firefighter is and Nashville, or anywhere else, shoot us an email, tell us a brief summary about who it is. Or an article link or anything.

We're gonna try to get them on. Yeah. You know, and you know who else I want? Who's that? I want to get... Ah! I want to get Ray Davis. The new book.

Well, this isn't really a new book. Well. Ray Davis. We just got it. Yeah, so I haven't read it yet because I don't, I'm a slow reader and I already read the real reports. But Ray Davis? Ray Davis, yeah.

CIA contractor, killed a couple of guys in Pakistan, got rolled up, went to jail. That's what the book's about. Yeah, alright. And that's when I was, that was huge news all over the fucking, it Yeah. Alright. And that's when I was that was huge news all over the fucking it was world news. I mean Pakistan had fucking put in prison a American CIA guy and oh I remember you and Don were just talking about this guy okay I mean really put me through training I have no idea how the hell to get a hold of them.

We don't keep in contact. I haven't talked to them in probably fucking 10 years, but I wanna get that dude on the pod, yes. Yeah, you know, maybe we'd get him by episode 007. Ooh. But that'd be good. But I mean, he made it out of prison. So, but he's got a hell of a story.

I bet. I don't think he even has a fucking Instagram. Nice. So. I didn't even know that could be possible. Yeah, believe it or not, there are actually interesting people in the world that don't have a fucking IG account. Did you believe that?

All right, you know, guess what? There's more to life than the fucking social media world, but. Shocking. Well, not that shocking. But do you think we should start taking call-ins on this? On this show? Yeah. Absolutely.

Yeah. I mean, depending if people tonight like the show, they might say, scratch this whole idea. They're gonna be like, you fucking scrap that. Yeah, this is boring as hell. Yeah. Nobody cares. But if they do care, yeah, hell yeah, we'd take some phone calls. I'm off for it.

Who are we going to have like a random ass neighbor? We could have the random ass neighbor. I'd like to call my mom. Have my mom call in, you know? My mother-in-law? Yeah, your mother-in-law. You want... Lizzie.

You want Liz, my mother-in-law to call in? Yeah, get her on the line. That could be like a five hour long podcast. It could be, but it would be very entertaining. My mother-in-law loves, absolutely loves to talk. Yes, she does. And she's good at it. Damn good at it.

She intimidates a living shit out of me. I don't know if we can ever call it. I'm sure people would really like to see that. I'd rather have, well, like, maybe my mom. I would love to have your mom call it. My mom, well, that would be like a two-second conversation. No, it won't. My mom doesn't talk.

She's like, you know. Your mom's got some stories. Yeah, but you get to do some good stories. We'll get it out. Well, whatever. But yes, I would like to take calls on this show. If everybody. My mother-in-law and my mom, by the way.

You're making that perfectly clear babe all right But yeah, I'd like to get some phone calls on here. I just don't want to get in trouble If you do then we'll know by later tonight All right, well feel like I'm already in a little bit of trouble after Christmas, but oh boy Well, that's another story So let's talk about flannels that Dr. Krossmuss, but oh boy, well that's another story. Yeah, well, kiddo. So let's talk about flannels then. Flannels are coming back.

Flannels are coming back. We are working our butts off. And I'm not working. You're working my butt off on getting flannels up and going some hats, some new hat designs. So yeah. What's a new hat design? I can't tell you about that.

Yeah, you can. It's a black hat with a white V. Oh, right. Come on. And a white flag. I think it looks badass. Over there, is there a maca? Yes, there is.

It's in your box. All right, well, in that case, one, I'm hungry too. You're out of wine. I am about out of wine. And three, I want to see this new hat design. By the way, though, whoever gave you the shout out about the public's wine, somebody wrote you on Instagram

about public's wine being back in stock. Yeah, that was cool. Yeah, but they must have bought all the public's wine. Yeah, thanks, AruSool. Like, somebody fucking sent me a picture like, hey, the public's wine is bad, cause I think it's seasonal or something. And then we go right there,

and all the fucking public's wines gone. Like the entire sections there, but there's no fucking public's wine. And they tagged the fucking public's that we go to, so you know, it was, that was messed up. I mean, I don't even drink, but I feel bad. But, all right, well, all right, we'll wrap messed up. I mean, I don't even drink, but I feel bad. But, all right, well.

All right, we'll wrap it up. I'm hungry and thirsty. Okay. I want to see this hat design. So, if you guys like this, give us a like, leave us a review on comments. Yeah, some nice comments. Tell my wife how beautiful she looks.

Oh boy. Tell me to get my ass back in the gym. And give us a podcast recommendation. And if they want to see more, oh, especially who, what were you gonna say? Seem more what? If they want to see more of the debrief. Oh.

What were you gonna say? Oh, nothing. My mind was some, you know, he's in the gutter. Let's wrap it up. Okay. But all right. Well, thanks for tuning in.

Yeah. We'll do this after every episode. And if you don't like it, then we'll do it twice after every episode. Why not? Just kidding. But all right. We'll see you guys soon.

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