SitcomD&D - Season 1 Reflections

Episode Date: July 19, 2022

With season 1 in the books, the crew sits down together IN PERSON at the Headgum studios to discuss the first of many seasons of SitcomD&D. Starring: Erin Keif, Waleed Mansour, Elizabeth ...Andrews, Sean Coyle, and Ben Briggs. Theme Song by Arne Parrott Artwork by Waleed Mansour Edited by Sean Meagher Like the show? Rate SitcomD&D 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and leave a review.  Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok: @SitcomDnD Advertise on SitcomD&D via Gumball.fm Support our Patreon at Patreon.com/SitcomdndSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. Welcome to an episode of Sitcom D&D unlike any other so far because we are in the HeadGum studio. I'm looking into your eyes. Dice. Dice. Dice. Dice.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Oh, wow. When we're all in the same room, it doesn't hit us. No. It's like, I hear how weird and bad it is. You almost think
Starting point is 00:00:30 the timing would be better. Yeah. There's no internet delay and what's our excuse? Oh, you don't want to hear us sing this episode. Oh, yeah. And I plan to.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Let's not. Everyone here has been really nice to us so far. Let's not do this. What note am I on? G7. Sharp. Let's not do this. What note am I on? G7. Sharp.
Starting point is 00:00:48 It's very exciting because we are all in the same room, which is extra exciting because Ben resides in Chicago right now. That's right. Right now. Right now. But not right now. But right now, he's in Los Angeles. I am.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I'm in Los Angeles, and it's sunshiny. I said this during my audio test, but I thought I saw Ben Kingsley at the airport. It was just an old man, but I still approached him. I didn't say anything, just got a little bit closer, and then went, nope, nope, this isn't He's going to be haunted by that all day. If it was Ben Kingsley, what would you have said? That's a good question. Let's pretend we're leads Ben Kingsley.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Oh, okay. Hold on. I do have a shaved head right now. So this is perfect. Yeah, thank you. You pretend to sit down. Hello. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:01:32 He's British, right? Yeah, I think so. He's Sir Ben Kingsley, right? Can you not be knighted unless you're English? Of course not. Is that true? I'll be the first to do it then. Oh.
Starting point is 00:01:43 You heard it first. Sir Sean. Hi there. I really like you in movies such as Iron Man 3 and... Oh no, he's blowing it. Really awesome. Awesome to see you. Have a great...
Starting point is 00:02:03 Have a sunny day. Okay. Bye. All you. Have a great, have a sunny day. Okay. Bye. All right. All right. Which I think is an accurate response that Ben Kingsley would give in that moment. Yeah, so what you would do is go up,
Starting point is 00:02:15 tell him that you liked him in Iron Man 3, and then forget all the other movies. Yeah, and- You almost said Shang-Chi. Yeah, I almost said it, but then I was like, I'm taking too long to get there. I don't know if I should say the tin rings.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Which I do also like that he's the same character in both of them. Right. That's like saying, oh my God, I really like you in Shrek and Shrek 2. That's so funny. Not Shrek 3, though. Not Shrek 3, though. Ben and I both forgot how tall the other one was. So that was our big moment that we had.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Huge surprise. It was taller, and both of you thought the other were shorter? Yeah that was our big moment that we had. Huge surprise. It was taller and both of you thought the other were shorter? Yeah, I thought just marginally shorter. I saw it, Erin, I was like, wow, okay, cool. Because you see people on camera and it's usually just kind of chin up sort of stuff and a little microphone.
Starting point is 00:03:00 You forget about the rest of their body. Yeah. Ben thought I was a floating head. Yeah, I perform with a ladder. I'm actually on a ladder while I'm talking to you guys. You don't have to. You just perform
Starting point is 00:03:11 with the whimsy of it. Actually, Elizabeth, what have you been sitting on for most of our recordings? She's still sitting on the floor. Oh, my God. No, no, yeah. We have to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:03:21 I did have that fold-out chair. Remember when I had the fold-out chair? That's when I first moved here, and then it exploded. I was going to say, I remember when it collapsed. Yeah, it collapsed, and I had a bunch of duct tape on it, and I was taping it with packaging tape and duct tape. And then when I was recording, I would try to not fully sit on the seat,
Starting point is 00:03:43 just hover. You know how you're going to do that. you're not even functioning as a chair you're just hovering over it and then I started um sitting on the ground and using my laundry hamper as a desk so I'd turn it upside down and I was using that and that's when you guys kind of were like are you okay and like a in a genuine friendship way yeah yeah yeah like we're a little are you okay? And like in a genuine friendship way. You guys are like, yeah, yeah. Like we're a little worried for you. And I was like, don't worry, I'll figure it out. And then I did, I use a chair now
Starting point is 00:04:12 that's like an actual chair. That doesn't explode. If it exploded, I would be sad because it's a nice chair. Well, look at you now. I know. In the HeadGum Studio in a real chair. I know, they gave me a nice chair. Well, look at you now in the HeadGum studio in a real chair. I know. And we're on some couches and nice chairs.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I just keep getting taken aback by actually being in the same room with you guys. This is very fun. It's pretty wild. It's surreal. It feels surreal. It does. We also don't think we've ever been in the same room together, ever. We were trying to figure that out. We were trying to figure it out. Maybe March of 2017 we were in a huge room.
Starting point is 00:04:47 A giant room. Yeah, there were way more people. Yeah, I don't think we've all ever been together before. My only guess would be if we had a show with Roundabout and Comet. So two of us. Two Herald teams. Well, three of us were on one Herald team, and the other two were on another Herald team. I remember that not happening that often
Starting point is 00:05:05 because I remember Raina, who was also on Roundabout with you guys, us complaining that that wasn't happening often. I hope that this is the first time. It honestly might be, which is hilarious. It was just so funny. I was thinking like a Lord of the Rings day. Oh, I didn't go to those.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I didn't go to those. Please don't loop me in with these. I hate all things fantasy. I even hate this podcast. Anything with dungeons. Fuck that. Speaking of this podcast, Elizabeth is ashamed of. Oh, no, please.
Starting point is 00:05:39 What we're here to do is recap season one. Can you believe it? Dice. Dice. Dice, dice, dice. When you need a break from this crazy world to see your friends and fill a cup, find Sebastian Chalice, Chip and Beef at the Noble Bottoms Up.
Starting point is 00:06:03 As step-by- step our growing pains are improving home and away. We're feeling absolutely fabulous on another happy day. We're in different worlds with different strokes, but the good times will not end. So cheers
Starting point is 00:06:20 to all our family and our friends. Starring Aaron Keith as Chalice Glass Elizabeth Andrews as Beef Waleed Mansour as Chip Ahoy Ben Briggs as Sebastian Von Hugh Grant And Sean Coyle as everything else Sitcom D&D is filmed in front of a fake studio audience. Tell the story of Sitcom D&D from your point of view. Once
Starting point is 00:06:51 upon a time. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I'm going to keep that up all the time. Do the voices. Yeah, no, I'd love to. So, this was, like, the first idea was really just to play Dungeons & Dragons during quarantine. And I had never DM'd before.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I had played Dungeons & Dragons. My first campaign was like a couple year long campaign that Waleed was also a part of with some other close friends from the Chicago improv community. I fell in love with it. I really enjoyed it. And during quarantine, I was just excited to potentially DM for the first time. That seemed like something that would be like just a ton of fun. And so when thinking about putting a group together, I was like, okay, you know, what do I want to do here? And then started thinking, well,
Starting point is 00:07:40 if we're already going to be doing this like over zoom, um, might as well record it. It's like not that much extra effort. Uh, and then also was thinking about doing it just over, um, Twitch, something like that, like live streaming it.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And then ultimately was like, no, let's just, I'll, I'll teach myself to edit and we'll record it. And maybe something fun will come out of it. And then talking with Aaron was just like, what would be like a good group of people
Starting point is 00:08:06 to play Dungeons & Dragons with? And we were talking about it going back and forth and Waleed and I had been talking every day for at least an hour, all of quarantine. You already lived in LA, but I was in Chicago. I was the only one in LA at that point. Yeah, yeah, you was the only one. Yeah, I was the Ben of LA.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And now I'm the Waleed of Chicago. That's right. That math checks us. And so I was like, okay, Aaron and we live together. This would be great. I would love to play D&D with Aaron. And then I'm already talking to Waleed an hour a day. Might as well just parlay it.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Do you think we're roommates? Are we're roommates? Are we not? I guess we are. And then Aaron was like, you know what? What day I always remember so fondly is my family does a canoe trip every year since before I was born. So it's over 30 years running right now. And it's out in Ayers Landing in Illinois in the middle of nowhere and um I always like would invite friends to do a canoe trip and a camp out uh overnight and
Starting point is 00:09:11 everyone in this room has been on that trip but we've never been in the same room together because we've gone on different years you all have gone in different years but we're saving it for this moment yes the day that I always look back on so fondly is when we had Ben and Elizabeth come on the canoe trip and correct me if I'm wrong, but you guys had never really hung out before that. No. No, yeah. Not at all, it was a very fun time.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yeah, what do you remember from that canoe trip experience? I remember the moment I was like, Ben and I are friends. What is that? I wanna know if Ben's is the same exact moment. So Ben, can you explain what Elizabeth is about to say and see if it's right? There was a moment on the bus. We were about to go to the water.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yeah. And there's like a tradition where you tell like really kind of not okay jokes. Like just kind of yell them. It's got to say an F word in it. Yeah, it's got to have like an F word and amongst many things kind of yelling. It's got to say an F word in it. Yeah, it's got to have like an F word and amongst many things
Starting point is 00:10:07 sort of thing. But Elizabeth, I think you started and more or less it was like, I want to eat ass! And then I stood up like a weird Spartacus sort of moment.
Starting point is 00:10:18 It was like, no, I want to get a bib on and some butter and I want to eat that ass like a lobster! And we just like had this, I was like, oh, I'm jelly. Is that it? Is that it?
Starting point is 00:10:29 That was the moment I fell in love with Ben as a friend. I was like, we're gonna be friends. This man commits as hard as I will. We're doing it. And then I just, yeah, it was like, love at first friendship, for sure. Screaming, eating ass. That's amazing. I love the level of commitment being, this person
Starting point is 00:10:48 commits, thus we're friends. Yeah. Such an interesting question for you to ask of like because the Chicago comedy community is such an embarrassment of riches. There's so many incredible and talented people but you have to think about different energies
Starting point is 00:11:04 and who's going to mesh well with who, and who's going to be able to play different archetypes. So it was sort of just like a, like a puzzle that you had to put together. And you were talking about all these people who are so great and like comedians that we love, but we're like, but what is the group that will feel like you're like in the car with your
Starting point is 00:11:21 friends, crying, laughing? Like, what is that five? Like a road trip group of friends. Cause like what is that five like a road trip group of friends because that's what i think like a great podcast yeah captured and so when sean and i when he said the names out loud i think both of us at the same time when you just like listed the five you were like that has that energy of the like silliness, but people are like good people and everyone's going to work hard and be.
Starting point is 00:11:47 So just, yeah. Yeah. The second you said it out loud, like the room levitated for a second. Yeah. And to like bring it even a little bit more on theme too. It's like when you're putting together like a D and D campaign or,
Starting point is 00:11:59 you know, like a group, you want to have different characters that have like different strengths and stuff and like that's totally the same thing like if there's a lot of people who are funny and maybe would bring like a really great energy but like aaron's saying like having these different categories and pockets of people with like a different vibe and energy i think is like super important and um yeah you never know like ahead of time of like oh is this gonna be like as fun as we hope and it it will it has been and more yeah this also has so many of my favorite duo
Starting point is 00:12:32 chemistries that i like got to see in chicago like waleed and elizabeth were oh yeah on comet together the herald team they did a lot of that but they like everyone always like you did some of my favorite scenes I saw on Chicago yeah especially sexy Kool-Aid men when you guys played
Starting point is 00:12:51 the sexy Kool-Aid men well yeah that was a legendary bit that we stopped improvising because we had it planned and we would just do about every other improv show sort of a no-no
Starting point is 00:12:59 yeah sort of a huge no-no in improv but we like to break boundaries yeah that's how we broke boundaries was by writing our improv show. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Now, what's the moment where you two became friends? Well, I actually have a moment in a show where I was like, I was like. I was going to say, it definitely is on stage. I picture, is it in the chin? I think it was in the chin. Yeah, mine was in the other big one downstairs. Okay. What moment is this?
Starting point is 00:13:28 We were like, you were a bee that could, when you stung people, they would become well endowed. And I was like. Fucking common. Fucking that heresy. My God. And as a small breasted woman, I ran out and I was like, sting me, sting me.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And I was trying to get you to sting me and you flew away. And I was like, oh my God, he knows how to be playful and I don't know, it just was like a saucy moment
Starting point is 00:13:57 that it made me be like, I love bleed. Oh, amazing. Yeah. That makes me very happy. That is such a funny premise. Of course, that's a common sense. Was I stinging them in the penis and then there's penis That makes me very happy. That is such a funny premise, of course.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Was I stinging them in the penis and then their penis would swell up? Well, there was a... You tried to get to the bottom of the logistics. I need the logical side. You could give it and take it away. So you gave it to someone and they were like, yeah! And then you took it away and they were like,
Starting point is 00:14:23 aww. And then I was like, come get me! And then you flew away and i was like man that's my new friend yeah i was like that guy's my friend that's when that's when like saying no and improv is like the right move yeah or when you you were you announced that you were gonna leave the team and i you said it after rehearsal and i just like immediately started crying yeah i was like what you can't you can't do that you can't just leave i don't know what i was like so in a good way you were definitely the one that made me feel the worst about leaving and that's me as a friend. But yeah, a lot of my favorite duo chemistries. I got to watch Ben and Sean do roundabout shows.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And I just was like, you brought out such a specific kind of silliness in Sean. And I thought that was magical. And then I sat in with roundabout and did a scene with you that was so heartfelt and lovely. The best Herald I ever did. I'm so sorry. But the best Herald I ever did is when I sat in with Roundabout. Something happened and it was the perfect show. It was.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I remember this one specifically because I remember doing, I feel like we were on the Appalachian Trail in the scene and you were like my mom or something. And I was like, in the moment, we were just interacting and I was like, Erin's awesome. I was like, I could almost not think because I was so enamored with you as a performer. Oh, my gosh. As you were speaking with me. But I was like, you were so supportive. You were, like, dishing it out.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Like, freaking just, it felt like T-ball. Like, it was just so good. I don't get it. It's like if Aaron's character stung you, your penis got bigger? Yeah, something like that. Yeah, whose penis got bigger? So I ran out and I'm like, sting me, sting me. No, but I just, it was so bizarre to never have done a scene with someone before.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And to like know them kind, like know them a little bit, but to be able to go out and do a scene where I was getting actually emotional in the scene and it was so funny and I was like, how, I don't even know this freaking guy. Yeah, yeah. So I just thought that there were so many different. And I've obviously performed so much with Waleed and Elizabeth and Sean. So I was just so excited for all of the duo energies. Yeah, it was good.
Starting point is 00:16:36 So then the next step of that was like, OK, let me just put together a little one shot. And then do you guys remember? Were your characters your characters yet? No. Mine was. But all three of your guys' were. I was a cat from the movie Cats. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Oh, my gosh. I remember that. Well, that's what you became. No, I think I started as a, I think I was Rum Tum Tugger. I swear, was I not Chip? I don't know why I thought it was. Maybe not. No, I don't think you were.
Starting point is 00:17:04 It would be interesting. We probably still have that recording we should maybe release that on the patreon or something but i found like a one shot that someone had pre-written online and was just like i just want to figure out what it feels like the dm yeah without having to like worry about too much and just see if i can you know execute on someone else's like story and idea and then um yeah we had a blast blast doing it and I think we broke it up over like two different sessions yeah
Starting point is 00:17:27 and then the way it ended I remember just being like in stitches and laughing so hard and being like okay I think this is like a great group at least
Starting point is 00:17:36 any fear that I had that it wouldn't be fun to play D&D with y'all that was you know taken care of I was like this is a great
Starting point is 00:17:42 group to play D&D with I would love to listen to that. I have very little recollection. I think you tried to look for it once, Sean, and you weren't able to find it. But it might be lost, but I would love to listen to it. Because I remember laughing really, really hard during it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I at least have my audio from it, because I am like a hoarder of audio. Let's just release Elizabeth. At the very least, we'll release the out of context Elizabeth audio and that we can promise. Just a bunch of silence and Elizabeth laughing. Cackling. Cackling out of nowhere. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:13 So then after that, then as a group, we were kind of like, okay, do we want to do this thing? Do we want to do a podcast? And what do we want it to feel like? What do we want it to be like? February of 2021. Yeah. Yeah, February 2021. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Crazy. And then I think at the time I was kind of just like, well, let's just do a D&D podcast and we're funny and it'll be good. And then everyone was like, oh, I don't know. I feel like there could be. Said we needed a shtick. A shtick. We needed something to keep you listeners.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Call me Dr. Shtick in our group of friends. I'm trying so hard for them to stop. You're totally Dr. shtick. A shtick. We needed something to keep you listeners. Probably Dr. Shtick and our group of friends. I'm trying so hard for them to stop. I really don't love it, but they keep calling me it. And then I proposed Naked ND with a big capital D at the end of naked where we record naked. We don't release it, but everyone can tell. My memory is so bad. I was like, did you? Did you do that?
Starting point is 00:19:04 I don't remember doing we tried it oh we did yeah we recorded a full season we trash it yeah um pandemic brain elizabeth i get it but uh no like pretty i remember like talking and saying um i think it'd be really fun if this felt you know like a sitcom like if this if it felt like a sitcom and i was like but i don't know what the gimmick would be yeah you were like yeah i wanted to be like at a bar and this situation is aaron is like a new girl type coming in and joining us and i was like let's just lean fully into sitcom yeah like 100 let's just do that and we talked about it being episodic which was very cool i i really enjoyed that aspect of like our ideation because so many of the dnd
Starting point is 00:19:44 podcasts out there are so serialized and you have to start from square one. Right. And I mean that's what I appreciate about our podcast more than a lot of other aspects, which is just that anybody can drop in any time. Or if I have a favorite episode and I know I have a friend that like listens to one every once in a while, I could be like, you have to listen to this one. And they won't feel totally and completely out of the loop. Yeah. Yeah. listen to this one and they won't feel totally and completely out of the loop.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah. When you guys were talking about that, coming up with that idea and it being a sitcom, I remember something that Sean said when I was like, that's so smart, is during the pandemic, especially people have like their comfort sitcoms that they'll just put on while they're cooking or like at the end of the night, like The Office or Parks and Rec or something. It's like people should be able to have those where they can just binge them put them on or drop in any time for the audio format once people are going back to work and commuting and the world opens back up again and i was like that's so smart because like my comfort sitcoms are so helpful and i didn't have anything like that podcast wise that you could just drop in
Starting point is 00:20:39 but that was also dnd yeah yeah yeah i I really enjoyed the element. I forget who suggested it, but when we latched onto the laugh track, I know that that's- That was bad. Yeah. Controversially. I know. Controversial laugh track. You're not like that. But for me personally-
Starting point is 00:20:55 I love it. Yeah. That is part of the comfort of what you were just saying is that hearing the laugh like with like you and is i don't know it makes it it brings me back to when i was growing up so it makes it more of a comfort and i know we say controversial because we i'm i'm joking when i say that because i love it and i think we've we've we've figured it out yeah well the first to address that for those who may not know that when the first episode was released, this was more of an editing snafu.
Starting point is 00:21:31 So I taught myself to edit, to just create this thing and eventually put it out. Which is amazing. It would be a big investment for us if not for this. And I didn't have a full-time job at the time, so it's something that I could do. But my worst nightmare came to fruition, which was I made a small error in judgment editing wise that caused the first episode to almost be unlistenable at first for a lot of
Starting point is 00:21:52 people which was um typically now we like have kind of figured out more the frequency of how often the laugh should happen and then um we also figure out at what sound level it should be. But for that first episode, the laughs were so loud and so frequent that there was a big backlash. Which, to be fair, matches sitcoms. Matches multi-cam sitcoms. The laugh track is constant.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Every line. Because every line is acessant. Constant. Every line. Because every line is a joke when you watch How I Met Your Mother. We were being a little true to form. Yeah, we were being too true to form. I think that this is super interesting demographic wise and obviously this is not like a blanket statement but I was getting a lot
Starting point is 00:22:40 of feedback about the laugh track. A lot of people were like, I'll tell Aaron. They found you uh the people who still dislike it now are usually under the age of 21 um and i think that their comfort sitcoms were not multi-cam sitcoms so fair and so they don't have that sort of nostalgia for it but people who are like our age and older have that like the the stomach for it. I think that it can be a little bit shrill if you're not used to that. But a lot of like millennials and older are like,
Starting point is 00:23:10 I love the laugh track sound. Yeah. That's such a good point. Also, when did you guys feel like, oh, okay, I understand the sitcom aspect of our show and I think that it works. When did that like start to like click in your head? Like which episode? Yeah were like, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Which episode? Yeah, I guess so. Because the first one, that one's more of an intro that feels maybe not as sitcom-esque, although it does do a good job of introducing the characters and whatnot. But I thought episode two, I was like, okay, this makes a lot of sense to me.
Starting point is 00:23:44 We have a character come out from externally who has a problem that poses a problem to bottoms up by saying, okay, if you guys don't pass your health and safety inspection, you're in big trouble. The bar's going to get shut down. And then you guys have this sitcom-esque comedy of errors that you have to deal with in a D&D way. I'll say my pick for when it really felt like such classics to come is episode four, which is also my favorite episode of the season, I think, even still. Yeah, episode four is really good. Episode four is- The Narroway Guild. The Narroway Guild.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah, Aaron wrote that one, right? Oh, my God. Yeah, which is when we had the Narroway Guild come and watch the show and we had to put on a show. But the reason why I felt like that was so sitcom-based is for the same reason that Sean just said in terms of like somebody came and introduced a problem to us that we had to solve. And then so true to sitcom form, by the end of it, we realized that the problem of getting into this guild is not actually what we want to accomplish and what's actually better is for beef to be himself and put on a show that is true to his form uh and like all of us actually being ourselves and that to me is like so classic sitcom uh yeah it really felt like yeah episode four felt like it was like firing on all cylinders like make like clicking it was like all
Starting point is 00:25:05 these elements we had been working on and and like i like all the the one two and three leading up to it too it's just like four just like you're like oh whoa the mat you can really like feel the magic of which is happening in the show yeah yeah i was gonna say four as well, but a thing, I think my favorite moment from the season was the funeral episode when we started improvising a B plot that Seb and Chalice had gotten really close, much to the dismay of Chip and Beef. That really, for me, was like,
Starting point is 00:25:40 oh, I, between the five of us, it feels like we watched every sitcom available to us in the rhythm of a sitcom and like those choices of like the point at the end of the episode is for beef to be himself that stuff comes so naturally that we're not even talking about it we just all know what we're barreling towards um i was like oh this rhythm of a sitcom is so on our blood that on top of sean's already awesome hilarious idea for an episode we're able to improvise a compatible funny b-plot and we know when to keep bringing it back
Starting point is 00:26:13 up people knew when to keep pressing that button knew when to like wrap it up that to me was like the first I was like oh this is gonna get easier and easier and easier to do stuff like that no I I feel the same way about that one. That one was like, I feel like it was just like one of us said that we had just been like hanging, like just kind of an aside sort of thing. And then someone just kind of pointed a finger at it. It was like, wait, what's up? And then it was like, it just, just latched.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Like we were like in it sort of thing. And it was, oh, it felt so good. And that was like a week where I was like, this feels awesome. Like sometimes you go into it and you're like, oh, I'm not really sure. Like I know for me, I like I finished like after work and then we were like recording. I'm like, I really hope that I'm going to do a good job this week. And I know with that, that episode, especially I was like, you know what? Maybe mentally like I wasn't sure about this week, but I went all in on this, and my brain's smart.
Starting point is 00:27:08 My brain is good, and I have a group that empowered me and also Erin to come up with that, and we're all confident. And as the season's gone on and on, it's just like we just have gotten, it's really funny, because I feel like we get a comment, and they. It's just like we just have gotten, it's really funny, because I feel like we get a comment,
Starting point is 00:27:27 and they're like, really hitting their stride, and we get that every single week. Every episode. Yeah. Stuff like that, and I'm like, but it's like so true. I feel like we're full on running with it right now, and it's just so good,
Starting point is 00:27:37 and those things, like, there's just such a confidence that it's come, and I think, yeah, by episode four, you could feel that like, it was like, okay, like, this went you could feel that like it was like okay like this is this went from just like a fun thing to like this is something special like this is cool it feels like it's gotten like way more intimate in just like well this is my first like time put
Starting point is 00:27:56 being in a podcast and like so there was a definitely like a learning curve of like but like I've had all this years of experience with improv and like in improv you gotta take that risk and it's that's the thing about improv is you don't know what you're gonna go out and do you could have a bad day like at work and you show up and you're like I hope I do a good job and it's like
Starting point is 00:28:18 so rewarding to walk into a room full of people you trust and are all willing to take that risk and leap with you and um that's why i feel like it feels so special with you guys because it's like every time i jump and i'm like i don't know if this is gonna work so we'll lead like yeah let's throw a peep into the air and i'm like yeah like it's nice it's very like it makes it more cozy and it makes it the show as it goes it's just like i've grown attached oh me and aaron have had conversations about like when we're doing the
Starting point is 00:28:51 podcast and it's like playing out in her head and aaron's like you just turned into beef to me like yeah and it's like i feel the same way with you guys, too. It's like I see bottoms up in my head and and like it's just like very exciting to work in a different kind of medium with improv. Like this is the best sign of this being like worth all of our time. When I realized how often Waleed and I were making the same joke at the same time or doing like I was just about to say that. Because I think Waleed is maybe the improviser I know who like I am most similar to like structure brain wise we think alike. And the fact that we were like on the same page so often that we knew what the other one was about to do I was like this is a very good sign um how have you guys enjoyed as opposed to like regular improv where you'll do a set and then it doesn't exist anymore after that and you probably never played that same character ever again besides um you know sexy kool-aid men uh oh yeah besides those uh
Starting point is 00:30:08 like how has it been like coming back to perform as a character like every week yeah that's a good question i mean the pros of it is like on a personal level going like oh i definitely figured out chalice a little bit more today. Like the 16th birthday one, when she dressed up to try to get attention or like in the fancy one with Adel, when Chalice like wanted him to think she's fancy. I was like, oh, I'm starting to understand her better.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And it's starting to feel more lived in that even if I show up on a day where something personal has gone wrong and I feel like tired or sad I'm able to like put this on and it will feel lived in
Starting point is 00:30:49 and comfortable Elizabeth and I just talked about the con of recording like a comedy podcast is the after because you just go like alright great
Starting point is 00:30:59 and then the computer shuts off and you're staring at a screen nobody's clapping you're not bowing and you're not in a green room with your friends having a drink and doing a bit i live alone so i go out into my bedroom and i'm like i'm done recording elizabeth after a recording had a spiral just
Starting point is 00:31:15 because that's what happened like i learned a little bit about that from hey riddle riddle of like you're gonna feel this crash and you don't get that like green room time yeah but uh yeah elizabeth and has been dealing with this and i've been dealing with this and i like one time was like you get out of your house i've been when you like five dollars and i was like go buy coffee right now yeah get the hell out of there dude she was like am i not funny and i'm like you run you go outside yeah uh but yeah that the the con of just this in general is like I just want to be hanging out with you guys after and enjoying you. But the pro is like, sometimes when you show up to an improv show
Starting point is 00:31:50 and you don't know what you're going to be doing or who you're going to be playing on a bad day, it feels scary. But I can show up to Chalice and like have the flu and know that I'm going to be okay. Yeah, you said that so eloquently is that like, it's like putting them on. Now at this point, as far as we've gotten, it feels it's like putting it on putting them on now at this point as far as we've gotten it feels like i'm putting someone on and i see you guys as your characters like so
Starting point is 00:32:12 clearly in my head i i noticed that it's i don't even like have to make choices anymore it's just like that's just what chip is gonna do a good example that i have is like when uh jalpert is introduced and like immediately like i didn't have to decide that ship was going to hate him. It's like, of course. It's like why would he have positive feelings towards it? And once again, it's not a thought process. It's just like immediately I know to hate this person and have like such visceral feelings. There's no time to second guess.
Starting point is 00:32:41 No. And also it's like you almost don't need to because you're like whatever choice Beef makes, Beef is going to make. And that's like – it just feels like we are those characters when we're playing. And a big – another thing that I'm just thinking about now is that when we play D&D, when I've played D&D in the past, I'm probably myself about 90% of the time, maybe 80% of the time. And then I will voice my character the other 20% of the time. And in this, you listen to an episode, we talk as ourselves maybe 5% of the time. We are almost always our characters in this show, which is very different than D&D. Yeah, I didn't really think about that.
Starting point is 00:33:23 And D&D, often you're just talking. You're like, I want my character to do this. Or you're asking like, hey, DM, what's the situation going on here? What am I seeing? But we don't do that. And when we do, we cut a lot of it out. Yeah, that's true too. Yeah, that is very true.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah, we're just so in those characters just the whole time. Yeah. And even when I try to like, you know, guide an episode or give like exposition or give you any type of information that you're going to need for the episode. I do try as much as I can to do it through a character. Yeah. So that it's verbal through someone that you can interact with rather than just expositing. Yeah. Which has been like challenging at times, but I think it makes it way more fun.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Yeah. I think that's a cool thing to like clarify for listeners too, is that you create the structure and we have no written. We don't know what's going to happen. It's like we're reacting to a lot of it. And then sometimes we can create our own offshoots that Sean has to be like, oh, God. Remember the 30 minutes of stand up we did in an episode that Sean just let us do because we were having fun? Early days, I was just like, yeah, we'll just record as long Sean just let us do because we were having fun early days I was just like yeah we'll just record as long as we need to
Starting point is 00:34:28 and then we'll find it and then it was like episode 3 or something like that I don't know early on I was like okay this episode is 2 hours and 15 minutes long and 45 minutes of it is every character doing 10 minutes of stand up that's really
Starting point is 00:34:44 funny but like that's when we're trying to establish kind of like what the show is, which now we're in a much better groove where it's like, okay, when you listen to an episode, you know that it's going to be anywhere from like 50 minutes to like an hour and 15 around there, and it's going to have a beginning, middle, and end like a sitcom episode.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And that's a fun thing to deliver on. And you know us and trust us enough that you know how we're going to react to things that you say, at least generally. Like with the Narroway Guild episode,
Starting point is 00:35:13 I know Elizabeth Soel as a performer and you know Elizabeth Soel as a performer that us coming up with that concept is we know that this is going to turn beef
Starting point is 00:35:20 into a monster. Like you don't have to tell Elizabeth that that's what's going to, that she has to do that. You don't need to lay that on. You just know that Elizabeth is such a smart performer, knows the rhythm of that kind of
Starting point is 00:35:31 story, and goes, okay, I need to lose myself in this, and then I need to get myself back. Yeah. And there was, so at some point during this, too, this has just been such a blast just talking ourselves, but I've got some questions from the Discord with some of our patrons. Yeah, I'm down. such a blast just talking ourselves but i've got some questions from uh the discord sitcom dnd is sponsored by better help and with that said i've got a question for you what's the right amount the perfect amount of socializing for you and how do you recharge
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Starting point is 00:37:20 And first and foremost, I'll just say that has been like an ever evolving process. There was hardly any time before we decided to make this a podcast before we knew what we were doing. Like it was like oh it's going to be a sitcom thing
Starting point is 00:37:31 and we're going to record the first episode of it next week. So like there wasn't a ton of ramp but we did no practice sitcom D&D episodes. No we didn't.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Not a single one. So the first one that we ever even tried the concept. We should have. Should we do that now? We should have. We should have. We should have.
Starting point is 00:37:46 How does he consider this first season practice? Why didn't we? I think it is. We were just like, let's go. Yeah, so we were kind of figuring it out on the fly. And early on and throughout the season, not just me has come up with the story concept for an episode. Aaron's written multiple.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Waleed has written multiple. And then in the future here, that's going to be something that we're all going to be doing in some type of iteration is coming up with a story concept. And not to get too into the weeds on season two,
Starting point is 00:38:18 but yeah, that's something that we're going to explore with these different type of, we'll call them flashback episodes that we're going to be messing with. Just to tease that a little bit. The process that is in place now is any one of us can come up with
Starting point is 00:38:33 a story concept or log line, which would be, to use an example from this past season, would be if Waleed said, oh, it would be really fun to do an episode where the bar has to host a funeral. And then I would take that and then build an episode around that.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And with some trial and error, for like a standard episode, what I've found is kind of, if like mapping a story circle, which is like an eight part uh kind of like hero's journey of like a typical episode of something and so what I and in like so many words what I like to do is like present you guys with some sort of want or a problem and make that clear within like the first five or ten minutes what's either going to be like oh the health and safety inspector's coming and you guys are screwed because you
Starting point is 00:39:27 have dead bodies there you know what you have to do right or we have to like our one of our favorite patrons has passed away and in his will is all these things we need to do for his funeral so then there's that big problem or want that you guys have to address. And then that's where the most of the episode will then take place. And there's a lot of freedom there for hopefully you guys to go about it however you see fit. And then I like to throw in some type of turn, typically. Which is, once you get that thing, once you solve that problem, once you get your want, what does it actually mean
Starting point is 00:40:05 or how does it turn on its head so and the person who creates a story concept usually has no idea what turn you're going to do correct correct um so then like for example in the beef episode sometimes it happens and i don't even know um uh but aaron aaron wrote that one. In the narrow way. Yeah, yeah. Where it'll be like, oh, or in the one where Adel was the guest, I didn't know if they were going to, you know, actually do it well and have the fancy feast go off without a hitch and, you know, they get all the gold.
Starting point is 00:40:40 And there's definitely room to improvise even there at the end where Adel was just like, okay, we're going to take him to court and the king says, you owe them money. even there at the end where Adol was just like, okay, we're gonna take him to court and the king says, you owe them money. And I'm like, it was the end of the episode. Which was hilarious. I forgot.
Starting point is 00:40:52 The perfect bow. But yeah, so that's typically what I like to come in with and then I'll write out everything as far as a description of what the new place that you're going to looks like or what this character's name is and what they're going to sound like and what information they have
Starting point is 00:41:10 to get you and sometimes it can be like pretty loose and other times it can be pretty complicated a looser one that feels just more like D&D was when we had y'all go to try to get
Starting point is 00:41:25 that mountain wine. You were kind of up to your own to figure out exactly what that was gonna look like and how it was gonna go. Oh my god, we spent so much time in that shop. Just climbing up the wall. Yeah, yeah, and going up the, yeah. Just shopped for like a while. Just watching Sean's eyes get wider like,
Starting point is 00:41:39 oh my god, they're still here. Like what? The last three episodes of the season felt like D&D. It felt like we were just playing, which I think is a really cool way to end it. But I think something, just living with you and prepping for these episodes, that's really interesting is like,
Starting point is 00:41:55 Sean will have an idea for the sitcom part of it. And then he has to do different kind of problem solving every week of how to do a lay on of D&D or what device to use. Like, remember you grabbing a pen and paper for like the Beef Seb fighting episode going like, how are we going to use this device wise to make it D&D? Like, I want Beef and Seb to be fighting and have to make up. But how do I how do I do the lay on of D&D on this sitcom? Or you'll know what device you want to use and you have to go what sitcom lay
Starting point is 00:42:25 on can i lay on top of this yeah like it's a really interesting creative problem solving that no one really has had to do before you yeah what's so awesome about this process too is like or this project is that the episodes can kind of be anything it feels like that we're like our comment box episode is like a clip show of clips that, you know, we've never recorded previous to that day where it's like, OK, this box is going to come open. We're going to read a comment that was put in the comment box and then we get to improvise those scenes. Like that's not structured like your typical sitcom episode, but it's such a fun playground for us to like mess in. It's such a fun playground for us to mess in. And that's something that I want to at least do a couple times a season too,
Starting point is 00:43:06 which is these episodes that don't feel like a traditional sitcom episode, but we're going to have a blast doing the thing that it is. But isn't that in sitcoms? At some point in the season, they'll have a review episode where they look back on clips. But a lot of times with
Starting point is 00:43:25 those like it's stuff that people have seen i love the idea that it was like yeah no yeah i love never been seen before yeah i love that when we were doing it i was like this is so smart and just kind of like base kind of going along with what you're saying sean like as someone who's played dnd before this like it's so cool to see you work with these mechanics and everything because this is D&D I've never seen, but this is the best version that I've ever gotten to play with. That's so sweet. I remember the gambling scene and the little crazy ass.
Starting point is 00:44:01 It was just us doing that gambling. It was simple things like that. I was like, this is wide. D&D is wide open. We are doing, it feels innovative. It feels fresh. And it just, the possibilities are endless. And it just-
Starting point is 00:44:16 Ben's eyes are turning into money signs right now. He's Seb. He is Seb. Well, what do you guys think is the breakdown of our show? And I think it fluctuates all the time, but I guess I'll just speak to what I'm trying to get at, which is I think that we are doing the thing of making what you would want to consume as a consumer.
Starting point is 00:44:37 At least I am, where it's like, I really like improv shows and podcasts, and I really like Dungeons & Dragons podcasts, real play podcasts, but I love some hybrid of them that feels like I'm watching or listening to a show where I get to return to these characters, but it feels like improv, you know?
Starting point is 00:45:00 And so I think it does fluctuate, but I like that we're this like hybrid of improv meets uh dnd yeah that's so fair because even like a lot of the versions of that that exist uh in terms of like active podcasts it's usually in an interview setting or they're usually stuck in a chair like even if it's like they're somebody's playing a character they're usually still just like sitting and they're in a chair talking to somebody else. And what's nice is that we're still improvising as if we were on a stage, as if we were on a set. We're able to create like a space that everybody can visualize, which is very, very cool.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I mean, yeah, a lot of the feedback I've gotten that has been positive about it is people are like, I'd love that it's an improvised sitcom first. But you're using D&nd mechanics along the way because i think sometimes like there's nothing wrong with these shows and i some of them are my favorite podcasts when things are dnd first they are a little bit more of a commitment to listen to sometimes like even if they're edited really well it's just like you're hearing people talk and decide what kind of idea to do and those that's great but this is just like fulfilling a different part of your brain, maybe more on the go when you can't focus as much. There's little thinking with our decisions.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah. And this has turned into us saying how much we love our own podcast, and I'm not mad at it. Do you want to ask another question before we start? I do. We've got a ton of questions to get through, so I better start burning through these. Is anyone else interested in taking the DM spot
Starting point is 00:46:25 for an episode? I would love to. I think we all should at some point. And on our Patreon, Erin has already DM'd or GM'd a game that is based in the Grey's Anatomy world, where we all get to play characters in the Grey's Anatomy type world.
Starting point is 00:46:44 That was an absolute blast. I love that episode. You were crushed writing that and that was so much fun to do. Highly check it out. Highly check it out. Hey everybody,
Starting point is 00:46:53 highly check it out. You know what they say, highly check it out. Highly check it out. What are your favorite NPCs so far? I mean, I love Jennifer.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Jennifer is a happy surprise that was not intended to be around for a while. Sean used the voice that he does for our dog. We'll keep behind the curtain. Jennifer is the Lou voice. Which I think is the secret
Starting point is 00:47:15 to putting a little heart behind it is that, you know, that's a voice that I associate with. One of the things I love the most in this world. Yeah, it's very lived in, but I'm just so shocked that Jennifer
Starting point is 00:47:24 and like so happy that that character that was supposed to be just there and gone again is like our fifth. I think Jennifer's such a good testament of the evolution of this show
Starting point is 00:47:35 and how cool it is when you're in something that's improvised is because it just so happened that in the second episode, Anton Ego, the villain of that episode, has a rat staff
Starting point is 00:47:44 that controls rats and we get a hold of the group. Thego, the villain of that episode, has a rat staff that controls rats. And we get a hold of the group. The gang gets a hold of that staff, gets to take control of the rats themselves. Later in an episode, you find out that the rats are actually doing everything
Starting point is 00:47:57 in the kitchen and are the, because none of you were the chef or the cook. There was never like an assigned title to anyone. And so it's like, oh yeah, we'll just have the rats do all the cooking. And then Jennifer, just as an aside, got labeled as the king rat or the queen rat.
Starting point is 00:48:12 And then it just became like, okay, that's going to be the character that's in charge of the kitchen. And then became such a good tool for me to use and a character for me to use to interact with you guys and bring an emotional point of view that I want you to think about or any plot point. tool for me to use and a character for me to use to like interact with you guys and like bring some like an emotional point of view that I want you to think about or like any plot point and then just like that is my favorite character to play maybe my favorite character to play of like my whole
Starting point is 00:48:36 life because like yeah well sexy Kool-Aid men don't take that that's ours but because like it's fun to play sexy Kool-Aid men. Don't take that. That's ours. Oh no. But because like, it's fun to play
Starting point is 00:48:49 a character that you feel like can be the dumbest in the room or the smartest in the room, like oddly. And then kind of just like say stuff that's off the wall and it's just a blast. I do have one
Starting point is 00:49:01 or a couple. It's always when Ben steps out of Seb to play the fighting rat. And then there was Gingerbread Cookie from Chips Relative. Do you remember? Gingerbread? Yeah, you were. The nihilistic kid?
Starting point is 00:49:21 Oh, my God. We're all naming all the best. Whenever you step away from Seb for a second to play, it's always somebody that is insane and hilarious. Like you can't help yourself. Like the guy who had fallen
Starting point is 00:49:35 through the roof. Oh yeah, his legs were like. And his legs were hanging and he was like the chandelier. And you were like, it has to be me. I'm so sorry guys. I can't go another second.
Starting point is 00:49:45 I love it. Yeah. I'm so sorry, guys. I can't go another second. I love it. Yeah. I was going to say my favorite NPCs in it are any time that we make Sean rapidly change one. We go, no, not that one. I'm not going to interact with that one. And he's like, oh, yeah. All right. Hi, I'm somebody completely new that I didn't write.
Starting point is 00:50:04 That is always my favorite. I feel like, Erin, you really will do that to him, and it is so funny. I do a lot. I'm just like, nope. You were too excited to do this voice. I'm like, I can't. I can't.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Any plans to do merch? Oh, we got to. Oh, for sure. Would love to. We have to. I really want wig wagon. Oh, for sure. We'd love to. We have to. I really want Wigwagon. I want Wigwagon so bad. I saw people came up
Starting point is 00:50:30 with some stuff on the Discord here. So what are some patrons? I'd have to sort through it. Maybe the start of season two. But we got to keep that going and maybe we'll look there for some ideas.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I'm wondering like for beef, like what do we want to call like beef listeners? Like beef cakes, beefaronis. I feel like we got, what do we want to call beef listeners? Beef cakes? Beefaronis? I feel like we've got to put out bottoms up mugs. That's what someone said on the Discord. You've got to do beer merch. Coasters,
Starting point is 00:50:54 bottle openers. A chalice. Oh my god. See, that's so fun. Also, I've thought about this. I don't think it makes any sense in terms of like sitcom D&D because this was on a Patreon episode but my favorite thing that I would just
Starting point is 00:51:10 love if I had a sweatshirt that said this is something that Elizabeth said on a Patreon which is hasta la pasta pasta oh I do want that pasta and god I want that
Starting point is 00:51:25 I just want that alright yeah that we're making that happen even if it's we're the only five people who buy it yeah hasta la pasta
Starting point is 00:51:32 pasta any plans to do live shows for sure for sure we for sure will I don't know when when that is
Starting point is 00:51:40 when we'll be like we feel like we have like a large enough audience to do so yeah recommend if you want some live shows, send the show to your friends in the same city as you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Yeah, word of mouth is the best way to grow this puppy. And we need to grow it a little bit before we can do a live show. But we are itching to. And we've talked about some different ideas of like how to go about it. Wearing costumes, having an audience member role for each of us.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Yeah. Make a bar, make a fake bar. But getting to play D&D on a stage in person is like a dream come true on such a crazy level. I would be so ecstatic. And we all love performing. Sean would have like eight costumes
Starting point is 00:52:13 that he would have to keep changing into for different characters. I would have a very adorable rat puppet that I could put on my hand. Wouldn't that be fun? Well, what's really cool, my dream for it, in Chicago especially,
Starting point is 00:52:24 there's so many bar performing spaces that people do like experimental theater in. So they have like PA, like mic systems. So we could all have like a Britney Spears mic and then do the improv inside of a bar setting as our characters. So people could be sitting at a bar drinking a beer while we do. We're running around. We're running around. That's hilarious hilarious that would be my dream that'd be so fun uh who's your dream guest player dream of dreams you can get anyone in the world living or dead i'm adding this but i mean paul of tompkins i would oh my god to get on the show i mean he's
Starting point is 00:53:03 my he's the person that no matter what podcast I'm listening to, I search for his name as a guest, and I download that episode and listen to that episode. What is everyone's third favorite animal? Third? Pandas, I think. Third favorite. Third.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I think I'm going to go with pandas. Pandas. Okay. Don't tell us your first and second. I won't. They didn't ask? They didn't. They didn't want to? I'll say giraffe
Starting point is 00:53:27 Third, yeah, third I'm gonna go octopus And just to round us about, I'm gonna go with American bison Whoa, third favorite That's in your top five, I wouldn't have thought that Peregrine falcon for me Top five, all birds All birds That sucks Top five, Allbirds.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Allbirds. Allbirds. That sucks. Top five, Allbirds. Boo. When will Jennifer get her own spinoff series? And yes, I did write these. Yeah, you did.
Starting point is 00:54:03 I think that I would love to write a Patreon spinoff for Jennifer. Jennifer moves, like it's a Mary Tyler Moore show. She like works in an office in a big city. Pearl earrings. She throws her hair, or her hat, her hair out. I've made that mistake so much in my life. She throws her hair away. She throws her hat up in the air.
Starting point is 00:54:21 She calls cabs. I love the idea of Jennifer having a Better Call Saul prequel series. Oh my God. You're right, it's all prequel. Oh my God. It's like really dark
Starting point is 00:54:32 and it's sort of sad. Yeah, exactly. She was a lawyer. Obviously sitcoms as a whole act as an inspiration for the show, but which shows
Starting point is 00:54:40 do you think about and or look at specifically when coming up with the story concepts for episodes or performing in them? I know I read through a bunch of log lines of Cheers episodes when I was thinking of some concepts. And I just think in terms of obviously the setting is a huge influence. But I also think that that's arguably one of the best sitcoms in terms of like classic multicams.
Starting point is 00:55:01 For sure. So, yeah, I know I look at that. I think also like it's always sunny for me a little bit. Like characters that you love but are also a little bit despicable. I think that like, because we've like killed people as a group. Yeah, we're not always the best.
Starting point is 00:55:16 We're not always the best. And I think that like a little bit more of that tone I really feel influenced by. But also like rhythmically, like Will and Grace stuff, like very much for Chalice, like Rachel and Jess from New Girl and Diane from Cheers.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I like have the rhythm of them in my head often. Yeah, I would say New Girl and Always Sunny are probably like the two biggest influences, like structure wise at least. But I wonder what people would say feels like the most comparable. Yeah, that'd be a good question. Like tone-wise, listening to our show,
Starting point is 00:55:52 what other sitcoms or shows it feels like. Yeah. If any of the characters were to die, as Seb came way too close to at one point, are there designs in place for resurrection or other characters you might play? Now, if one of you die, I'm gonna tell you right now, there's no plan in place.
Starting point is 00:56:12 You're gonna have to figure out how to resurrect them. Get them back. I was gonna say, that feels like a full episode is going to find somebody who has some sort of resurrection spell. Yeah, yeah. That would be fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I have thought about, I go, what if Seb died? I have thought that would be so fun to just completely reboot the next week and just act like it never happened. Like Kenny from South Park. That's really funny. We never bring him up. If you could be on any sitcom past or
Starting point is 00:56:45 present which would it be? Oh my God. That's so tough isn't it? Also when you guys hear that question are you thinking like as a
Starting point is 00:56:53 series regular or as like a guest star? I'm thinking guest star. I immediately thought guest star too. You can be anything you want.
Starting point is 00:57:01 You're right this is hypothetical. What does that say about our confidence? Well if I were to be like if I could go back in time and just be like on it as a full-time character,
Starting point is 00:57:08 I'd probably pick something like Veep. Great answer. My favorite guest performance on a sitcom ever is Katherine Hahn on Parks and Rec. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Her coming in as that like political expert, like that lit my comedy brain on fire. Every single line that she had on that show is like one of my favorite lines from a sitcom. I would love to be on Arrested Development. That would have been such a fun show to be on.
Starting point is 00:57:32 And then to like pop in for a guest spot. I think it would be super fun to be like on Community. Yeah, that'd be really fun. I also think it'd be very fun to be on like Curb or something that's improvised. Yeah. Curb's a great answer. Yeah'd be really fun. I also think it'd be very fun to be on like Curb or something that's improvised. Yeah. Curb's a great answer. Yeah, just use that skill set.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Yeah, it's always sunny too. Oh, a newer one that I'm like jealous I want to be is Abbott Elementary. Oh, such a good show. So good. I was like,
Starting point is 00:57:57 man, I'm jelly. I want to be there. I want to be the janitor. I love that he says everything's trash. He's like, that's trash. That guy's so good. This will be the last question.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Is there a specific end goal for a number of seasons or just cruising until it feels right? Also, what are your favorite childhood cartoons? That's in the same question? Yes, actually it is. That's awesome. I honestly just meant, I meant to just, well, because we don't,
Starting point is 00:58:24 well, I'll let you guys answer these. Okay. Favorite childhood cartoons. it is um it's awesome i honestly just meant i meant to just well because we don't well i'll let you guys answer these okay favorite childhood cartoons for sure like hey arnold yes and recess we'll have to uh yeah we have a little bit of recess vibes too oh i i mean give me all heart like give me a cartoon that has so much heart too much heart and you're like is this really kids cartoon uh so those two for sure and then i mean i don't necessarily have the answer to the first question besides i'm cruising i'm cruising yeah as long as y'all will listen yeah cat dog uh rocco's modern life ren and stimpy Stimpy 90s Nickelodeon yeah Ed, Edd n Eddy Johnny Bravo yeah
Starting point is 00:59:06 I love cartoons yeah Cartoon Network my parents were very annoying and didn't let us have cable so unfortunately
Starting point is 00:59:14 I was a PBS kid but we had one Saturday morning that's how I loved recess but Arthur is so funny just finished
Starting point is 00:59:22 like I know crazy but it truly is like laugh out loud hysterically funny it's finished. Like, I know, crazy. But it truly is like laugh out loud, hysterically funny. It's made for parents, too. I know. Ben's all for Arthur.
Starting point is 00:59:31 No, it's so funny because I was over here, I was about to be like, I didn't have cable growing up. So I had ABC on Saturday morning. Like, that's how I saw Recess. And like, they would have like
Starting point is 00:59:40 a variety of other things. But yeah, I was just, I was watching. You missed out on Cat Talk. Sorry. What else was on PBS? I remember like cyber chasers dragon tails dragon tails dragon tails dragon tails let's all go to dragon tails dice i told you we'd say uh sean what about you cartoon what about me cartoon what about you cartoon what about you cartoon this one we didn't come out
Starting point is 01:00:05 until we were like maybe like 10 or something like that but Spongebob I love Spongebob yeah Spongebob slaps so funny 99 right
Starting point is 01:00:12 yeah oh so I was just like 7 also even if like somebody gets a job that they have to take like 8 months off of sitcom D&D or something
Starting point is 01:00:22 like if someone gets busy or has a kid or whatever, like I think that it could ebb and flow for as many years as you guys want to listen. Yeah. We've also got a,
Starting point is 01:00:32 this was a combination of a question I hadn't asked, but it's like, is there a leveling up system for y'all? And so now at this point, at the last episode of season one, all the characters have gotten to level two. So season two, they'll be on level two. And so that leaves a lot of room
Starting point is 01:00:48 and seasons for growth there. But yeah, I also think what's cool about the show is that it's like flexible enough to be like reinvented in a number of ways that will hopefully always keep it fresh for us and be fun to do. Thanks for listening, guys. Yeah, a big thank you to
Starting point is 01:01:06 everyone who listened this season for recommending it to your friends or showing it to your significant other or sister or whatever like that makes the biggest difference is just letting one other person know you like it like yeah we would i think just do this if we weren't recording but it is so nice to get to share it with people who like it so I appreciate that yeah yeah it's been great to see the response that we have it has surpassed my wildest like expectations for it because like this was just an awesome project and it's like week after week recording has just been the highlight for me like it's something dependable that I can count on but to have that at the same time be something that people have wholeheartedly embraced.
Starting point is 01:01:46 You see people tweeting about it. We also great, uh, social media, uh, posts coming from our good friend, Willie here. He's killing it,
Starting point is 01:01:55 uh, week after week. And it's just, it's awesome to kind of share that stuff. And like, that's what makes it like, Oh yeah, we could go indefinite.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Like we could be 30 seasons, you know, like just 65 years old, 65 it like, oh, yeah, we could go indefinite. Like, we could be 30 seasons, you know, like, just. 65 years old. 65 years old, seven teeth left. Still playing beef. Like, I, yeah, I love it. And I can keep doing this for forever. But, like, it's been awesome to see people kind of embrace it. And so, yeah, I can't thank people enough for that.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Hell, yeah. Well, that's it, y'all. That's an official wrap on season one of Sitcom D&D. It was so cool to be in the same room together while we did it. All right, everyone kiss. Dragon Tales, Dragon Tales. this week on the patreon we are leveling up our characters in preparation for season two
Starting point is 01:02:56 and talking all things dnd head over to patreon.com slash sitcom dnd to check it out have a great week that was a hate gum podcast

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