SitcomD&D - Season 4 Reflections
Episode Date: January 30, 2024The gang takes a second to reflect on the harrowing and hilarious season that just wrapped up! They answer some listener questions and finally come up with an official name for the Bottoms Up... gang that they promise never to drop or forget. Starring: Erin Keif, Waleed Mansour, Elizabeth Andrews, Sean Coyle, and Ben Briggs.Theme Song by Arne ParrottArtwork by Waleed MansourEdited by Sean MeagherLike the show? Rate SitcomD&D 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and leave a review. Buy some SitcomD&D merchFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok: @SitcomDnDAdvertise on SitcomD&D via Gumball.fmSupport our Patreon at Patreon.com/SitcomdndSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is a HeadGum Podcast. Improving home in a way. We're feeling absolutely fabulous on another happy day.
We're in different worlds with different strokes.
But good times will not end.
So cheers to all our family and our friends. Starring Aaron Keith as Chalice Glass, Elizabeth Andrews as Beef, Waleed Mansour as Chip Ahoy, Ben Briggs as Sebastian Von Hugh Grant, and Sean Coyle as everything else.
Sitcom D&D is filmed in front of a fake studio audience.
Welcome back to Sitcom D&D, a real play Dungeons & Dragons podcast recorded in front of a fake studio audience.
But today, we're doing something that we do at the end of every season, and that is reflect.
We are reflecting on season four.
Can you believe four seasons in the bank?
What?
No way.
We're marching along.
I can. So to let the
listeners in on a
little secret, I am in the middle of
nowhere trying to record this.
And so I'm
essentially recording this from
a barn in a frozen wasteland in the middle
of nowhere, aka my parents' house.
And I am three seconds barn in a frozen wasteland in the middle of nowhere aka my parents house and uh i'm three
seconds lagged behind the rest of the group so it's a real surprise for me if uh i'm really on
pins and needles here if i'm gonna get a laugh on anything that i say because there's a huge delay
and then either silence or a laugh but uh we'll see how this goes I'm hoping we can get this lined up to where it makes sense.
It's going to be fun.
We're going to have a good time, Sean.
Don't you worry about it.
Thanks, Sean.
Yeah, thanks, Sean.
Coming to us from the past.
Speaking of reflections.
I feel like Matthew McConaughey in Interstellar where he's just staring at a feed of his children and they're way older now.
Oh my gosh.
Murph, no!
Sean, that's a great poll.
Good joke.
We all laughed, Sean.
We did.
Oh, God. Hopefully, y'all laughed and you cried and you sighed and you did all the emotions through
season four right along with us.
I think it's safe to say we had a blast recording it and we came to our Discord.
We shouted out to the kitchen rats and asked for some questions to help us reflect on season
four. So if you guys are cool with it, I'm going to go ahead here and pull some questions from
our Patreon, our kitchen rats, and hopefully y'all can provide some answers.
And then if there's time, we'll actually ask each other some questions and reflect on the
season ourselves.
Does that sound good?
That sounds great. That sounds great.
That sounds great. I'm cool with that. Thanks, Sean.
This is a great one that came early on, which is, what has
been your biggest learning experience
for either improv or
podcast or character-wise
since recording this last season? character wise since recording this last season
or maybe like, you know, during recording this last season and prepping for this season.
I think this one of the things that we took into account was trying to find ways for us to weave
our stories into one another a little bit cleaner than in seasons past where uh previously i feel like some of our different uh arcs were not intertwined
whatsoever and i feel like having the family dynamic throughout this entire season allowed
our experiences to play one off one another so if beef was going through something we're all kind of
going through the exact same thing and we can empathize uh with beef and we can compare to how our situation's going on
or not empathize depending on how our characters choose to be uh but i think i think that really
helped in terms of planning for a season so yeah yeah that's very true i feel like yeah we've had
like our own little things in the past and what did I do? No, we just love you.
You're so sweet.
I just love the way you said that.
I just think you're the best.
That's very true.
Yeah, that's very true.
My heart.
I have a sinus infection right now.
Don't make it cuter.
Ben normally sits back, but he was right up on that mic ready to ready to go
and I love it that's very true it's very true um I feel like yeah just kind of what you're saying
we were a little bit in the past like on an island we'd be like this is Seb's thing Seb's
you know trying to get over uh he's the last person to figure out that he's like you know
has an ex-wife sort of thing and We all had our thing, which was awesome,
but with this, we were all doing it together,
rather than being an island or an archipelago,
a group of islands.
I think that was really, really sweet.
We noticed you slipping your word of the day.
Yes, yes, yes.
Sean, you can probably speak more to this
about some of the writing changes you made for this season,
but you sort of switched a lot of the episodes
to more of like an open playground,
slightly more D&D format than we normally do.
And I've really enjoyed that for a number of reasons,
but it has helped give some more freedom
for us to bring in more sitcom-y tropes to these episodes.
Like we're doing things in whatever order we want.
And then also we are free to add more play and discovery on our end, which I think is really fun.
Like moments where like beef through Jennifer in the water right away.
I don't know if we would have done that in a past season.
And I love that we
got to do more stuff like that this season absolutely and that's very true
i uh i totally agree and that's what i was actually gonna bring up the same thing aaron
and that came from just you know our writing meetings throughout uh the season with everybody
and talking about the season with everybody and talking
about the season heading into season four when we were trying to understand what we
wanted out of it.
And it is a difficult needle to thread sometimes to be equal parts sitcom, equal parts D&D
and have a satisfying beginning, middle, and end, allow open choices to the players and still
let everyone get on with their lives and keep our recordings to like a reasonable amount
of time.
Because something that's great about D&D in general, when it is completely open world
is being like, OK, clearly you've been tasked with something.
being like, okay, clearly you've been tasked with something. But if you think that the bartender actually has a funny way of talking and you, instead of going to get the gold from the dragon,
you actually just want to help this sad bartender get back on his feet.
And that turns into its whole thing. And you don't even go on. That's the kind of stuff you
want to leave it open to. But when you're promising on a premise that will deliver a beginning, middle, and end,
then it becomes a little bit more like, okay, how do we deliver on this?
And through all the conversations we had, one metaphor was very helpful to me.
And the analogy was, think of it like a playground, which is a conversation that
when Waleed and I were talking about it, really struck a chord where it's like,
if you have an idea for something that the gang is going to go through,
you can think of every single thing and hurdle that you want them to experience, but then you're
kind of writing the episode and how much room is there for exploration
and play. So think of it like a playground where it's like, hey, bring your kids, your D&D party
to the playground. If they're having a blast on the slide, don't make them go to the monkey bars.
They're having a blast in the slide. So just provide the playground,
which is there's tons of options,
tons of ways to get to the end result,
which is fun.
But you provide the environment
and then let them play how they want
and know how it's going to kind of,
you know, all shake out
or what the ultimate climax is going to be
that you're going to bring to their doorstep.
But that's been super helpful to me.
So that's definitely been
the biggest thing I've learned.
It's very true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sean's been bringing the ultimate climax
to all of our doors this season.
I don't need to respond.
Elizabeth says pass.
Elizabeth said I didn't learn a single fucking thing.
I was like, we can keep this moving. Not everyone. Elizabeth said I didn't learn a single fucking thing. I was like, we can keep this moving.
Elizabeth said I don't need to learn anything when I'm teaching y'all what to do.
No way.
I was just like, yeah.
Everyone said my thoughts.
We can go on to the next question.
You're going to be the first to answer this next question.
Oh, weapons of its past. Oh, yeah. ditto question you're gonna be the first to answer this next question oh yeah the last one was from
uh soap on the discord and uh this one is from jay reese or drees i have absolutely loved season
four listen to every episode and bonus more than once. Thank you, Treece. Hello. My cue to each PC, so I'm left out of this one.
I'll still answer.
Don't worry, Treece.
Did any choices you made as your character surprise you?
Were there any moments where you realized something you didn't expect about your character?
Yeah. I didn't realize
Beef was going to be so nervous
to fall in love
when he was falling in love.
When I created the character
in the beginning,
my vibe for him was like
Austin Powers mojo guy.
He's got all the mojo
and he can have whoever he wants but uh as beef unfolds
through the seasons and then especially this one this season we wanted to present beef with an
actual um romance and i didn't know i really as i play, I don't know what he's going to do.
And then his reaction to Aaron's character, he was very nervous.
And I thought that was very sweet and very on brand for him.
But it did surprise me.
And I thought Aaron did such a lovely job playing percival percy
um his counterpart and it it's always so easy to improvise with aaron in those kinds of spaces
as well oh it's easy to improvise fall in love with me elizabeth is that what you're saying? Whoopsies. Did I expose myself? Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I was so surprised with the kiss that he messed up the first kiss and then he was like, let's do it again.
He had to roll for athletics.
Into a Nat 20, right?
Oh, that was awesome.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
I'm done.
I'm done.
Oh my god, yeah.
I'm done.
I've always thought as Chalice as the most despicable of the group.
I feel like she had the longest to go to become a good person. It's very true.
Because when she shows up, you guys are sort of already been cooking in that environment
a little while like you guys had character development from when you showed up like
bottoms up chain had already changed your characters a little bit and chalice hadn't
been changed she was like just a spoiled brat but i thought this season was fun because
chalice actually got to rise to the occasion of being a woman of the people a little bit.
Her reaction to the birds, wanting to save the birds.
And wanting to do right by people and expose her father.
I thought she was able to move the needle.
Yeah, I think we were already bottom feeders and aware of it.
Chalice has always been a bottom feeder in her heart.
But it's just getting to that point of just being there
that's a really that's a good one I can see that that's like really really cool
I think for Seb after last season tore him to shreds
and just like really needed to kind of find a way back
from that and so I don't know I felt like
we were speaking of like a playground
but i felt like this was like a playground for seb in terms of just kind of like i was knocked
down like and burnt off all of this like brush or what have you and so now it's just kind of
like seeing what has grown out of it seeing you know how quickly i can make sean uh try to tell me no i can't i can't say that i
just have a barrel in my pocket like you know just like stuff like that so i don't know i think i
think this has just been a big growth one for seb as well i mean for all of us there was like a very
humanity like i don't know there was like something where it was like, I don't know. There was like something where it was like,
we didn't want to die.
We didn't want,
like we wanted to connect with people,
like really kind of got us down to our ooey gooey cores.
And I don't know.
I love this season because of that.
Cause it kind of made fertile ground for some really cool moments to come
out of.
For Chip.
I feel like some of the specific moments
that I think about that,
like I'm very happy with the choices
and I feel like they surprised me in a good way.
One of them was when it was Chalice's birthday
and Chip didn't know it was Chalice's birthday.
That was like a very fun choice
that I felt like I made
and it ended up being a great runner throughout episodes,
which I feel like I'm always seeking out.
And that one just felt super, super natural and it worked out super well in my opinion uh and i really is yeah exactly uh i i had
a lot of fun doing that and then another small choice that was just me surprising me uh was uh
not as chipped but as um don't laugh at me that's a question right
just the way that you
it's just the title of your
unpublished book is
me surprising me
and it's you looking in the mirror
scared
scared
scared
holding a handheld mirror
too so there's three of you
yeah
but it was Mia's hands saying bye Holding a handheld mirror too, so there's three of you. Oh. Yeah. Wow.
But it was Mia's hands saying bye was surprising to me.
I will say that felt like so Waleed improv move.
Yeah.
It's just perfectly timed.
That's like old school IO comet.
Yeah. I think it got cut out of the episode but me right after i did that i was like i'm sorry i could do something else if you want me to oh yeah which is also the
most willie thing ever it's so sweet jennifer didn't grow right so no And she's been trying. She's been trying to grow physically. Mostly it's not working.
But I was surprised as Jennifer wasn't my choice. But when Beef hurled Jennifer off the side of the
ship when they were on the way to find Chalice's biological father i was so surprised and jennifer was integral to that plot
but it's one of those fun things as a dm where someone makes a choice and you're like yeah i
gotta roll with this and it ended up i was like you do the mental math on the fly where i was like
i i actually had planned that if things went awry
and you guys ultimately were shipwrecked
or were marooned by the rest of the crew
or what have you,
once you got off this boat and got to the island,
Jennifer would somehow have been separated from you.
I was going to try to figure out a way to have that happen,
but had it planned way later in the episode.
More like a shipwreck.
She gets, you know, in the chaos, you a shipwreck she gets you know in the chaos
you lose her you think she's drowned or whatever but uh to have it just be like six minutes and
beef hugs are off the side i was like oh no and i was like wait we were dancing around it yeah
we were all talking about it i definitely i was gonna do it i was like no this might ruin
everything that sean has planned.
And then Elizabeth said, fuck that, bro.
I'm like Sean's worst nightmare when we're playing this.
I love that.
Yeah, he's like, but what about the D&D?
And I'm like, okay.
That also led to my second favorite joke of the season of us just being like,
she always finds her way back to us.
When we went on vacation, we went there and she was our waiter.
And then Ben was like, and then she had been training there for two weeks.
She was new.
Like she wasn't new anymore.
She had been there a while.
I also love in that episode at one point, then we're talking about Jennifer later.
Like we, I think we were talking about, do we feel bad about it?
And then we, Sean, you have Jennifer screaming in the background.
So good.
Awesome.
So thank you, J. Reese, for that question.
Or Dries.
The next one, or Dries.
And this one is David Boss or Davidibus.
They're asking,
what improv moment from someone else will lead?
No, it does say this. It does say, what improv moment from someone else will lead. No,
it does say what improv moment from someone else made you laugh the most
this season.
Ooh,
I think I know.
Oh my God.
And this issue with this is there's recorded audio of this.
So you have to get the right answer.
Um,
I mean,
I have a million,
I might say more after I say this,
but my favorite moment from this season or any season
was the Onion Man part of the comment box.
Whoever sent in that comment.
Let's go!
It's my favorite.
I love the Onion Man.
You guys, Aaron has been talking about the Onion Man.
I won't shut up about the Onion Man, you guys.
He was born.
I can't stop thinking about him.
But there's a part in it, and I actually,
I think it was Grace who edited that episode,
and I had her space it out.
Um,
cause we were talking over each other.
We're so excited,
but,
uh,
we'll lead going.
Could it be you?
Could it be you?
Could it be you?
Yes.
Um,
I thought about for like a week in my head after I was like,
that's actually the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life.
One of my favorite moments is in the Centauri Povich show,
which is Beef on the Catwalk. That is up there for like favorite moments when she,
when Beef is looking at everybody and making eye contact with them and then slitting, like doing
the finger across the throat. And in particular, I love that you misspeak there and you say i put my finger to my ear
and then put my finger across my throat i died i died i i love in that episode too
uh the sun and the moon i think it's ben and yeah it's me and ben yeah yeah have a full-on argument as the sun and the moon and
it kills me i think also when aaron climbed the ceiling as um a spider spider-man yeah um in the
it was just crazy i gotta say another one from the Tori Povich show too which is when
when Ben
is like I don't remember
the prompt but he's like can I do a disguise
or something and then Elizabeth
is like what are you gonna be a curtain or something
oh yeah absolutely
gets him
really scorched me
I didn't even understand it
but I was like whoa I think everyone is mad at me.
I also loved Beef rolling a 20 when he gets thrown onto the stage and barred in the barbecues.
I loved that entire sequence of him deciding to get on stage that way.
I also thought Jesse Kendall as Milk Nip this season
had some improv moments,
especially in those first three episodes
that I just thought were brilliant.
Oh, yeah.
I love when he lists out his apologies
at the end of his first episode with us.
To the listener, he came with 49,
just prepared and was listing them off. And it would be like, some of you are 49, just like prepared and was like listing them off.
And it would be like, some of you are like, I don't know.
But there were so many that were like, whoa, oh my God.
Can't say that.
Oh, but I think, I mean, the ones that made it in, I love too.
But I thought that was so funny.
That really killed me.
Yeah.
I don't know why I have to apologize for this,
but sorry I made Frasier a Pepsi town.
Yeah.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, I thought of another improv I loved.
Waleed making it so I said,
can I roll again after I botched rolled for getting high?
Do you know what I mean?
In the barbecues, I rolled a one for getting high do you know what i mean like uh in the barton barbecues i rolled a
one for how high yeah for or whatever 20 or whatever and then i said can i roll again and
then uh will lead was like chalice just said that out loud oh yeah which made that fun little meta
game of the realities yeah yeah yeah and then chalice was like i'm staring at a macbook they're like yeah like kind of like oh the the psychosis or whatever when like everyone is like
high and they can like see themselves and they're like that really killed me while we were doing it
that's a fun runner yeah um yeah i also liked from the chaotic episode of Seb's,
when we go to Seb's parents' house.
Seb versus Seb.
Seb versus Seb.
Yeah, I love that one.
Everyone becoming Seb was so funny
and also such a nightmare.
It was so funny.
And then you run out of the house and the next time we see you, man. You're like,
get kicked.
You run out of the house.
And the next time we see you,
you're like fighting over a bone.
Alleyway.
I forgot about that.
Yeah.
Roasted sweet chicken.
There was one moment where we'd says,
as Seb goes,
I just want to be,
I just want to get it off my,
like, just want to go
out and say it right here. I'm not the
real Seb. I'm not the real
Seb. And then Beef
just bounces right off
and goes, I'm the real Seb.
And I love that.
That really, really, really got me.
I also love, this was
like completely improvised, which was so fun which is like
what's who's a rich family around that could potentially be a new home for you know Jordan
Lee Cohen's character you know imposter Seb and uh so I love that it became seven sub X and real sub was sub X is just so funny.
And sub Y and sub how, but the ending of that was probably the hardest.
I laughed, which is Jordan Lee Cohen's doppelganger.
She goes ahead and changes into what would be be the your best idea of what deborah
handbags missing child look like which ended up being very far off and so then deborah ham is like
who the hell are you and then the real kid comes out of the woods and it's like mom and then jordan
tackles them and starts wrestling and when jordan made the decision to tackle them and really wrestle them in front of them and strike,
I was dying.
Yeah.
Oh, wild.
Man, yeah, we were rich with good guests.
Mono.
Oh my god.
It was like, everything he said was just a delight.
Jeff Murdock and Joe Scott at the beginning the beginning yeah oh yeah they're pretty incredible
lines by jeff like uh i think i posted this one but the we drink ghosts they are spirits after all
pretty incredible pretty incredible nothing better i loved so many of our guests but I thought Carly coming in
felt like such a one of us
moment to be able to come in and improvise
with a lot of people that you've only met like once
or never I think it's such an incredible
skill and she just came in and made it look so
easy it was just really
fun to talk to before the episode even got
started I was like oh about sandwiches
yeah that's how you know you fit in
yeah it was just about sandwiches was like, about sandwiches? Yeah. That's how you know you fit in. Yeah.
It was just about sandwiches.
All of us were like, that's so
awesome. It was just a really
good energy that carried throughout the episode
and it was really fun. And it was so
awesome and lucky that Jesse
Kendall's a close friend of ours
and a listener of the show,
a fan of the show, and
is just the perfect Prince Milkman.
Yeah, truly.
Truly.
Disgusting.
Oh my gosh.
That's,
I laughed pretty hard
when he was,
had to be fed cupcakes
and it was like missing his mouth
and everyone was like
shuffling their feet.
There's a huge gathering of people
watching it happen.
Chew for me.
And then moving his jaw.
How long did you have season four,
episode 20's title name slash general concept?
And that's from Jade Cipher.
And I'll go ahead and get it started by saying right away.
We knew very early on. That was a lead idea for episode 20 we wanted to we wanted to make it getting high focused yeah that was something
i pitched ahead of the season thinking that that would be an incredible like right before the
finale type of vibe and i think it worked out yeah so that was uh that was definitely something
we that i pitched beforehand.
However, it was not like a season one thing. It was definitely
like maybe end of season
three I came up with it.
He's lying. He's been sitting
on this for years.
Long before we even started the show.
Guys!
That's Ben Waleed's secret
finish line in season four, episode
20.
I thought we were going to be done after that episode.
There have been several new event mechanics,
like for the 420 episodes
and all the infiltration contest.
Which were your favorite?
Any worth revisiting?
Are there mechanics you would like to explore
in future seasons?
And that's from AK.
Before we answer that, quick shout out to Elizabeth for coming up with those infiltration
episode ideas. That was your idea from the beginning to have all of us pick a different job.
Oh. Elizabeth doesn't remember doing this. It was your idea. Great job.
Thanks, Aaron. Yeah, it was such a cool idea,izabeth of like we know chalice is taken
and then you know we get we get a little break in between seasons so we we like to blue sky it
together as a group and then have as much of it still be a surprise for the players um what like
on an individual episode level but still kind of know the major conceit as well as
different like oh and 420 wouldn't it be fun to do a 420 concept and uh also have character choices
which i think is a cool thing that i would want to bring into any kind of dnd um campaign that
i'd be a part of is like having your characters also be able to make choices outside of a recording. So Elizabeth
proposing the idea of like, okay, you know, Chalice is captured. We're going to try to get
her out of the castle. What if each of us tried to be something different and infiltrate to get
as close to Chalice as possible? It's like, hell yeah, we could, we can do that in individual
episodes. And then i think
it was a group thought of like what if so if they're all happening the same day could we have
prince milk nip come and be in each one um and have it be like a a single flowing chronological
day for prince milk nip that we experienced in in the different episodes and it was a lot of work but i think it paid off it was a ton of fun yeah it was definitely a lot of work
yeah i was gonna say one of my favorite mechanics that we used this season two was for the uh the
another hoy family reunion episode where sean set up basically like we it was like a mystery and we
had three different suspects we were trying to solve a mystery and that was very fun to go to have to
interview them with different tactics and use our like insight.
I think beef used some like mind reading.
We went inside somebody's house to like try and figure out,
it was a bit of a whodunit at obviously the ending being that none of them
had done it.
But I,
I really liked that mechanic.
I think that worked out super well on that episode.
Hey, if you're listening to this,
you better listen to the whole season.
I'm halfway through season one, man.
Well, I had the same answer.
I also love a mystery-solving
mechanic anywhere.
It's my fave.
But that one felt really fun.
I also loved that we could go in any order.
It really did feel like we could go in any order really
did feel like we could solve it however we wanted it sort of felt like just like a one shot sort of
and so much of like i mean a lot of our episodes are like beginning middle and end so it is very
like one shoddy when we make this but like that one felt like tabletop rpg like we we have an
hour and a half and we're getting through like
this mystery and stuff and there was all sorts of checks being done and there was like an environment
i don't know it was very very cool uh i really did enjoy that one too and i loved it because it had
that feel to it as well i like the ship one because sean sent us an image of the ship that we were on and um i really liked that mechanic too
that we were stuck on the ship and we had to make and we all could go to different parts of the ship
um to solve the issues that we were fighting but yeah that was one that stood out to me yeah i
found myself going back to that too.
Just feeling like, oh, that felt like a very mentally lived in space.
Like that one felt very tangible to me.
And I think that happens anytime it's any semblance of like a bottle episode.
Because you're in the theater of the mind, that stuff really starts to get some detail
to it if you spend enough time there improvising, which is fun.
One for me that was very fun, like the mechanic
and then also getting, it's very fun to get to like play,
you know, improv chess against each other,
which was a blast during the hunt for Red Swantober,
which was just a really fun uh idea of that aaron had for a long
time of like i bet chalice i bet chalice's fucking rich weird family has some weird hunting thing
that they got going on um and for those outside of aaron and myself having the you're hunting a monster turn into the well is
this a monster oh no this is something great and then having you guys try your best to
like pick up the clues of how does this thing that we're hunting actually operate where is it
actually operating out of and like picking up on those clues and and having those things revealed the the ways in which that unfolded was very unplanned and then by the end of it i remember
feeling like oh that like couldn't have gone better if i like tried to write it it's just
the way it unfolded was was very very fun the mechanics of it again the playground thing of
like you just set the stage and then bounce off each other. It was very
fun. I also liked when we went to
the library.
I liked the library a lot too.
And the mechanic of going and getting all the stuff.
Oh yeah.
That reminds me of a decision I made.
Seb became a smoker
this season. I just kept on smoking
in that episode.
That's so funny.
Which is not good.
I became a smoker.
Who is your dream podcast?
Can be real or fictional, alive or dead.
This is from Weedle, the Gunrat King.
Fictional too?
I was just saying this to Elizabeth,
but I would love to have Betsy Sedaro on as something
related to beef like them
being a duo of some kind
I think would be so good
would love would
die to love
like Homer Simpson being on
would be fun
I agree it'd be pretty fun to have
on the Beatles and have being on would be fun. I agree. It'd be pretty fun to have on
the Beatles and
have Beef be kind of like a
Pete Best kind of situation.
Wow.
He was kicked out right before they got super famous
but we actually have the Beatles on.
Would be very fun.
That would be crazy to meet the Beatles
through a podcast.
Do you think that they would be able to do it?
They'd be like, what is this?
Can you imagine Paul McCartney being like,
I'm a big fan of yours and saying that to you?
I'd be like, no.
Honestly, Ben, if you can't, that's fucked up.
You need to see a coach of some sort to get your head right.
That's how I wake up every morning.
Paul McCartney would fucking love the shit I make.
I would die to play with Conan O'Brien.
Oh, I mean.
That would be so incredible.
One that would be cool and maybe accessible,
now that he's on HeadGum, is Jake Johnson.
I'd love Jake Johnson to be on the show i think he would be hysterical and would be incredible sitcom royalty being on
asked super nice and approached him really carefully and paid him 50 000 50,000? Wait, how about this? If anyone wants to tweet at him for us,
maybe he just makes a 10-minute cameo
as the janitor of Bottoms Up that's always there.
He doesn't even have to come for a full episode.
We'll record with him for seven minutes.
Yeah, we won't even need him.
He plays Jonathan the Spirit Guard,
come back to life.
Yeah.
We won't even bother him.
We won't meet him.
He can just record it and send it to us in the mail.
We can just buy a cameo.
That's what we should do is we should just buy cameos.
We should just buy cameos and throw them onto this show.
Okay.
And like the description of the cameo.
Yeah.
It's like, hey, can you be a janitor?
If you buy a cameo and you send it to us we'll play it at some point it'd
be so funny if it's like lance bass and he's like hi i love being at bottoms up can i have a beer
yes we just riddle the show with cameos this is genius
we're gonna get sued i mean that's what sitcoms do we could do a cast that speaks with dead
and just shoot our cameo person five questions and the five questions you would ask and then
we just use their audio of their responses i love it oh my god that dead soldier was Christopher Walken.
They're like, wow, Christopher Walken's a fan of sitcom D&D?
Oh man, that would be really fun.
No.
No.
Have y'all gotten cameos, either bought or received?
I got one from Beans.
From Beans?
Yes.
From Even Stevens?
Yeah. Beans? Is. From Even Stevens? Yeah.
Beans? Beans?
Is he doing okay?
He's doing great.
Oh, good.
It is absolutely absurd.
What does he say to me?
He says like, my friend prompted him that me and Emma are not doing well in the boudoir,
I think, or something like that.
Oh, my God.
The insane boudoir.
He's like, hey, man, that's okay, dude.
Like, you know, like, after you have a kid, like, that's life.
And it's so funny hearing it all from Beans.
Oh, my God.
Santa is on Cameo.
No.
How much?
One and only?
Yeah.
How much?
There's a couple Santas.
Should be free.
There's a couple?
This one, this Santa's only, this one's only $9.
Oh, no, Santa.
It probably goes up seasonally, I would imagine.
Chuck Norris is on here.
Did you say fuck Norris?
I said Chuck Norris.
I said fuck Norris.
This is another one from Weedle the Gunrat King.
If each character got a wish spell, what would they wish for?
And how has that
changed since the beginning of the series?
Didn't Beef get a wish or
something? He threw it away.
He stepped on a wish
and asked for three Bloody Marys.
Oh, God. Oh, yeah.
So he hasn't changed.
Yeah.
I don't know the extent
of this spell
I know that it's pretty powerful
but
if I could wish for anything
I think Chip
would probably wish
that he would have
actually slayed
Dioxide
and that
Brandon was still alive
that he both
would be a hero
and still have his best friend around
great answer
so he could stop
living that lie.
And I'm curious.
Yeah, great two for one.
I don't know if that would have changed.
I mean, obviously at the beginning of the show,
people that know about Chip's actual backstory,
but I don't think that would have changed.
I think that's what he still wants,
is to be a hero in everybody's eyes.
I think early on,
Chalice would have wished for freedom
without having to change herself
or let go of any luxury.
But I think now Chalice would wish for more time with her mom.
Ooh, right in the feels.
I think Seb would probably, at the beginning, would have wished to be anyone else.
His energy was just so much anxious anxiety and self-hatred.
But I feel like now he would wish for something.
I don't know.
He's a little bit out of his shell.
He's a little bit funkier.
I felt the character has grown.
It finds a way to be weird and everything.
I feel like he would wish for something strange.
A big hat. Yes. finds a way to be weird and everything, I feel like I would wish for something strange. Like...
A big hat.
Yes, like a big cowboy hat with a buckle on it.
Like a pilgrim buckle on it.
Wow, a cowboy hat.
That is strange.
You need a wish spell for one of those.
I think Beef would wish for a vending machine
that always gave him a sandwich and only him.
No one else could get into the vending machine.
Damn, Beef.
Yeah.
Could you give the sandwiches to other people or no?
Yeah, he could.
He won't.
He turned to Ash.
He won't.
He won't.
Because he's always worried they're going to run out.
Yeah, but they never do.
This could be the last one.
Who knows? But who knows but who knows
it's been 25 years
they're so common dude
yeah
or to maybe never lose his voice
his singing voice again
if you want me to get real
honestly I wouldn't be surprised
if he picked sandwiches over his voice
yeah
you would at least pause
to think about it yeah he'd think about it now i want to get through some um a bunch of questions
too so um this one's actually more of a request can we lead please do official art of seb's hot
mom so we all know just how hot she is that's a good idea if uh i can potentially if i got some
time but in the meantime feel free to
just watch the stacy's mom video with fountains of wayne by fountains of wayne and you'll get a
pretty good idea with fountains of wayne get them over there yeah they're in the background singing
they're on cameo yeah that was from mitchell cranberry Crispy. And we got one from Nebula Lucas.
Any possibility a guest fan could ever do a one-liner on an episode, possibly for a contest?
If you get on Cameo, we'll find you.
We'll do a Cameo.
I think that'd be a fun thing.
That'd be so fun.
Yeah.
Maybe like a raffle of donating to a charity and then we pull a name and then you get a line.
I like that.
I love that.
This is a great one from Edam Cheeserton.
When playing, do you think like your PC
and get method in the role
or are you playing your character?
So do you like go as yourself
and just do whatever you would do
and that's who your character is?
Or do you go one step removed
and go, what would Beef do?
What would Chip do?
What would Seb do?
What would Chalice do,
given the circumstances?
Or is it some kind of combo?
Interesting.
Well, I think Chalice is a combination
of like thinking about sitcom characters like Rachel Green or like the It's Always Sunny crew.
Like people who are sort of self-serving for the most part have the impulse to be self-serving.
But I would say most of Chalice's choices are just motivated by me trying to make this specific group of people laugh or have them like an improv move i make
i feel like that's what chalice is is just trying to impress you guys what's the moment in this
season where everyone's like you got a cool character it's when we're on the boat headed to
exile i don't remember what prompts us to say that i think it's maybe you're just concerned
about how your dad's gonna react to you oh yeah oh no that's what it is where you're trying you're trying to think of how to remind
or try to tell him that you're uh your mother's daughter and we're like going through all the
things that you have and you said i forgot everything about my character and we're like
you got a cool character oh yeah because i was like i I have this, the ring and everything. I definitely feel, I definitely don't think at all when I'm playing Beef, he likes to not think at all.
He's a reactor.
But as Elizabeth, I definitely feel in episodes, it's like you're looking over everything.
episodes it's like you're looking over everything it's like you're kind of above yourself and thinking okay we just set that joke up i'm gonna bring that back in like five minutes and that's
it's like a like a second self like that's the improviser um kind of like thinking above the everything.
But you gotta be able to like come back into your character and like not,
and then not think and then react to with your gut and your heart.
And I think that everyone in this group does those two things very well.
I think we listen as our characters,
but we also are listening with a higher frequency
for how we want to map the episode.
Yeah, it's definitely a combo of both,
and I think that's probably, to a certain extent,
the case across the board.
But for me in particular, when I'm playing chip one of the things I try really hard and I do like really think about
is like only making moves that make sense for chip like I really really try to be like is this
something that chip would do or like is this something chip wouldn't do and i try not to do those things
um i really want to i'd really try hard to say stay truthful to what uh like chip's motivations
are uh and who he is as a character so if something feels um inauthentic to chip i really
try to avoid it that's that's another big part of it for me. I think for Seb, I just kind of,
there's a lot of myself in that character,
but I just kind of dial it up.
So it's just kind of like, I just kind of turn it up.
And then, yeah, we're like improvisers.
So a lot of it is, and we're so used to these characters.
And I know for me where it's just like,
we get in there, boom.
I'm just like, it's just like we get in there boom I'm just like like that's this is
just improv but with like
kind of a little bit different
kind of cadence to my voice or something
like that but oh oh
here
Ben
yes
Benny back
what what's the date Ben? Yes. Ben, are you back? Ben. Yes, yes. Ben.
What's the date?
It's 2004.
No.
This was also from Eden Cheeserton.
I'd like to ask something similar to this. When addressing kitchen rats in Bottoms Up,
can you name some of us here in the Discord?
And the answer is yes.
Any plans? This is a different question.
This is for all of us.
Dmartin G. asked this one.
Any plans for the characters
to go to a zoo, an aquarium,
and or go on a safari
so Seb can wild shape into more animals?
Well, now we will.
That's a great episode idea.
Season five. We'll see you there.
Can do. Next question.
Who were your favorite
NPCs from season four?
I'm going to have to go with
Mr.
Pibb in the
at the jail is up there for me.
I always love Mr. Pibb
and hate him, but at prison
in particular was very fun.
It was really fun for us all each to have our turn of going there
and just seeing how it would turn out and everything.
It was just great.
I really liked Beef's grandma.
Oh, she was sweet.
Wait, Waleed, what was the rock, your sentient rock that you played?
Oh, my God.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
I think it was Rocky. I think it was Rocky.
I think it was Rocky.
Is that just a really good guess or do you know?
I think it's Rocky the Rock Johnson.
Yes.
I loved that episode.
That was a really fun episode to record.
That was probably my favorite non-chip character I played.
Oh my God.
Yeah. And Seb's infiltration.
It wasn't beef when you played beef?
I liked the holes that Rocky had.
Ah, yeah.
Or the one hole.
And how often you talked about them.
Remember when he T-shirt cannon shot?
Yeah, that was awesome.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Never forget.
Never forget.
I did like when Aaron played the duck in Aquaducks.
Oh, yeah.
You played the duck.
I forgot about that.
I can't believe that was this season.
You played like a little duck that was like, bleh.
I guess I did.
I can't deny it.
I think my favorite to do, but this was like love and hate because i think we'll lead
early on i started doing the the voice for um chris pine the pine tree who who was uh the like
the library's you know knowledge right and i started doing like basically the tree beard
voice where you also talk while you breathe in.
And he was like, hey, just so you know, man, that like wrecks your throat.
I was like, I'll be fine, baby boy.
Yeah, you were so confident.
And then 30 seconds later, it's like, oh, God, I feel like I'm strapped.
It is so funny, Sean.
That was very fun.
Because you have such an arsenal now of all of these like regular characters that come back.
And it's so funny when we're recording.
Sometimes Sean has to be like, oh, what's their voice again?
And then he has to like run through them and we all have to listen to it.
It's like we're like that one.
That one is like, oh, man, is is crazy.
You should do voice memos for all your characters that you do
and then just like name them all and when you need to reference them go reference them again
like 52 right now it's nuts i know i have run out and now i have to invent new ones um where i go
like it's basically i don't have any other like back pocket voices so instead i have to go
who would i cast as this character and then do my best worst impression of that person that's a good
way to do it that's cool that's a good way to find voices yeah that's very smart it is it's been
it's been getting me by um let's see here sir this is a serious question
very lukely asked does the bottoms up gang have a party name just wondering so i can potentially
stop calling them the bottoms up gang slash crew i know that the repairs are their superhero parody
name for more generic heroic quests but when things get more serious than superhero parodies and a king needs slaying,
what are they collectively?
Repairs is also potentially a correct answer.
I just think it might be an important distinction to make.
I definitely think we've been going by bottoms up gang.
That feels like the main moniker for the crew.
Yeah, I feel like we were afraid for a while
to go with gang,
just because it almost felt like
too close to like it's always sunny or something like that but yeah that's true we haven't really
i mean we don't have like a consistent one so like that's my my pitches if you want to hear
my pitches i got two always first we call ourselves the birds which is what we call ourselves the birds, which is what we call ourselves at the end of season one.
Doing a puppet show.
That's my first pitch.
Second pitch is an acronym for the Bottoms Up Gang, and we're the bugs.
Bottoms Up Gang, we're the bugs.
I want to be the bugs.
Okay.
It's my vote.
And I'm just one little vote.
The bugs go on another big adventure.
We're bugging out.
That's what we say whenever we leave the bar.
Bugs out.
Bugs out.
Bugs out. Bugs in.
We're sorry to bug you.
We promise to do this throughout all of season five
and we won't even drop it one time.
Or we're going to forget.
Either way.
One of the two.
You figure out. I love life. One of the two. You figure out.
I love life.
Keep listening.
Keep listening to find out.
Okay, so I think we have time for a couple more.
This one, I want to ask you guys
if this is something that we feel like is helpful to cover
or to keep it secret how the sausage was made.
But the question is from
Tess Warner did you always have the Hail Mary to save the characters for the end of season
were you looking at potentially losing them and having to roll new characters
whoa I did not want to have anyone die and was really hoping they would put together the, you know, water is thicker than
blood essentially. Um, which is, you know, like family is more important than what your blood is
biologically. It was so funny that at the end, you know, I was really banking on them putting that
together. And if they didn't, you know, i don't know what would happen but it's very
funny to have jesse bring that up i think everyone kind of knew tongue in cheek like that's probably
what's gonna happen but to have our guest be like it was perfect um i don't overstep my bounds here
but like would that be a solution we all just died we're we got to do that. I don't know what ended up making the cut,
but in the recording,
at first Jesse says it.
As Jesse, Jesse's like,
why don't you guys just like,
you guys are basically family.
Why don't you guys just give each other the blood?
And then we're like, that is so funny.
Jesse, can you please do it as Prince Milk Nip?
And then that definitely makes the edit.
But yeah, we like,
it was so funny that he had a nice genuine moment of like, I'm trying to help you guys out.
We didn't, yeah.
Well, we didn't know if whose family members were going to show up or not.
And so genuinely, I think you can really hear it in our voices, like especially Chip and Beef near the end.
Like, I really didn't know what was going to happen.
I yeah, we didn't think we were going to lose our characters completely and have to re remake one.
But, you know, if season five started with the two of us in heaven
on the sandwich cloud trying to figure out ways
to get back to life. That would have been awesome.
Right? We could figure that out.
Yeah, like we would have maybe, you know,
done that. Yeah.
Seeing on the Discord too, someone say
like, oh, you know, could this
possibly end in like a total party
kill? That made me kind of go
shit, that would be awesome.
If everyone just died.
And then in like the next season starts in heaven or some other plane would be like super fun.
It's kind of jumping the shark for season five.
But their heaven is just ending back up at bottoms up just as it is.
They don't even notice they died.
Maybe that's what this season five is.
It's just they love to struggle
and they love to be up against something.
This is from Radis Adair.
What's Seb's mom's phone number?
It's actually your mom's phone number.
Hey! number um it's actually your mom's phone number all right all right last question last question jenny's phone number
fuck mary kill cicero milk nip seb's hot mom okay mary seb's hot mom so i can have sex with her whenever i want
oh is that what marriage is uh kill milk nip oh i don't like this question actually
i'm just gonna go on a date with seb's mom and then you guys yeah i'm gonna fucking marry
seb's mom and kill the other two guys that That's all of our answers, I think.
You know what?
I wouldn't mind going to the bedroom with Prince Milknip.
Yeah.
Just to see what that's like.
Honestly, I'd do all of them.
I'd do all of them.
Because I'm curious.
Just out of curiosity.
Out of curiosity.
I got to know.
It's for science.
Okay, that's a good ending, I think.
See you season five.
See you season five, cuties.
Bye-bye.
Bugs out.
That was a HeadGum Podcast.