SitcomD&D - Season 4 Reflections

Episode Date: January 30, 2024

The gang takes a second to reflect on the harrowing and hilarious season that just wrapped up! They answer some listener questions and finally come up with an official name for the Bottoms Up... gang that they promise never to drop or forget. Starring: Erin Keif, Waleed Mansour, Elizabeth Andrews, Sean Coyle, and Ben Briggs.Theme Song by Arne ParrottArtwork by Waleed MansourEdited by Sean MeagherLike the show? Rate SitcomD&D 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and leave a review. Buy some SitcomD&D merchFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok: @SitcomDnDAdvertise on SitcomD&D via Gumball.fmSupport our Patreon at Patreon.com/SitcomdndSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. Improving home in a way. We're feeling absolutely fabulous on another happy day. We're in different worlds with different strokes. But good times will not end. So cheers to all our family and our friends. Starring Aaron Keith as Chalice Glass, Elizabeth Andrews as Beef, Waleed Mansour as Chip Ahoy, Ben Briggs as Sebastian Von Hugh Grant, and Sean Coyle as everything else. Sitcom D&D is filmed in front of a fake studio audience. Welcome back to Sitcom D&D, a real play Dungeons & Dragons podcast recorded in front of a fake studio audience. But today, we're doing something that we do at the end of every season, and that is reflect. We are reflecting on season four.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Can you believe four seasons in the bank? What? No way. We're marching along. I can. So to let the listeners in on a little secret, I am in the middle of nowhere trying to record this.
Starting point is 00:01:36 And so I'm essentially recording this from a barn in a frozen wasteland in the middle of nowhere, aka my parents' house. And I am three seconds barn in a frozen wasteland in the middle of nowhere aka my parents house and uh i'm three seconds lagged behind the rest of the group so it's a real surprise for me if uh i'm really on pins and needles here if i'm gonna get a laugh on anything that i say because there's a huge delay and then either silence or a laugh but uh we'll see how this goes I'm hoping we can get this lined up to where it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:02:07 It's going to be fun. We're going to have a good time, Sean. Don't you worry about it. Thanks, Sean. Yeah, thanks, Sean. Coming to us from the past. Speaking of reflections. I feel like Matthew McConaughey in Interstellar where he's just staring at a feed of his children and they're way older now.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Oh my gosh. Murph, no! Sean, that's a great poll. Good joke. We all laughed, Sean. We did. Oh, God. Hopefully, y'all laughed and you cried and you sighed and you did all the emotions through season four right along with us.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I think it's safe to say we had a blast recording it and we came to our Discord. We shouted out to the kitchen rats and asked for some questions to help us reflect on season four. So if you guys are cool with it, I'm going to go ahead here and pull some questions from our Patreon, our kitchen rats, and hopefully y'all can provide some answers. And then if there's time, we'll actually ask each other some questions and reflect on the season ourselves. Does that sound good? That sounds great. That sounds great.
Starting point is 00:03:28 That sounds great. I'm cool with that. Thanks, Sean. This is a great one that came early on, which is, what has been your biggest learning experience for either improv or podcast or character-wise since recording this last season? character wise since recording this last season or maybe like, you know, during recording this last season and prepping for this season. I think this one of the things that we took into account was trying to find ways for us to weave
Starting point is 00:03:56 our stories into one another a little bit cleaner than in seasons past where uh previously i feel like some of our different uh arcs were not intertwined whatsoever and i feel like having the family dynamic throughout this entire season allowed our experiences to play one off one another so if beef was going through something we're all kind of going through the exact same thing and we can empathize uh with beef and we can compare to how our situation's going on or not empathize depending on how our characters choose to be uh but i think i think that really helped in terms of planning for a season so yeah yeah that's very true i feel like yeah we've had like our own little things in the past and what did I do? No, we just love you. You're so sweet.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I just love the way you said that. I just think you're the best. That's very true. Yeah, that's very true. My heart. I have a sinus infection right now. Don't make it cuter. Ben normally sits back, but he was right up on that mic ready to ready to go
Starting point is 00:05:06 and I love it that's very true it's very true um I feel like yeah just kind of what you're saying we were a little bit in the past like on an island we'd be like this is Seb's thing Seb's you know trying to get over uh he's the last person to figure out that he's like you know has an ex-wife sort of thing and We all had our thing, which was awesome, but with this, we were all doing it together, rather than being an island or an archipelago, a group of islands. I think that was really, really sweet.
Starting point is 00:05:37 We noticed you slipping your word of the day. Yes, yes, yes. Sean, you can probably speak more to this about some of the writing changes you made for this season, but you sort of switched a lot of the episodes to more of like an open playground, slightly more D&D format than we normally do. And I've really enjoyed that for a number of reasons,
Starting point is 00:05:59 but it has helped give some more freedom for us to bring in more sitcom-y tropes to these episodes. Like we're doing things in whatever order we want. And then also we are free to add more play and discovery on our end, which I think is really fun. Like moments where like beef through Jennifer in the water right away. I don't know if we would have done that in a past season. And I love that we got to do more stuff like that this season absolutely and that's very true
Starting point is 00:06:30 i uh i totally agree and that's what i was actually gonna bring up the same thing aaron and that came from just you know our writing meetings throughout uh the season with everybody and talking about the season with everybody and talking about the season heading into season four when we were trying to understand what we wanted out of it. And it is a difficult needle to thread sometimes to be equal parts sitcom, equal parts D&D and have a satisfying beginning, middle, and end, allow open choices to the players and still let everyone get on with their lives and keep our recordings to like a reasonable amount
Starting point is 00:07:12 of time. Because something that's great about D&D in general, when it is completely open world is being like, OK, clearly you've been tasked with something. being like, okay, clearly you've been tasked with something. But if you think that the bartender actually has a funny way of talking and you, instead of going to get the gold from the dragon, you actually just want to help this sad bartender get back on his feet. And that turns into its whole thing. And you don't even go on. That's the kind of stuff you want to leave it open to. But when you're promising on a premise that will deliver a beginning, middle, and end, then it becomes a little bit more like, okay, how do we deliver on this?
Starting point is 00:07:52 And through all the conversations we had, one metaphor was very helpful to me. And the analogy was, think of it like a playground, which is a conversation that when Waleed and I were talking about it, really struck a chord where it's like, if you have an idea for something that the gang is going to go through, you can think of every single thing and hurdle that you want them to experience, but then you're kind of writing the episode and how much room is there for exploration and play. So think of it like a playground where it's like, hey, bring your kids, your D&D party to the playground. If they're having a blast on the slide, don't make them go to the monkey bars.
Starting point is 00:08:42 They're having a blast in the slide. So just provide the playground, which is there's tons of options, tons of ways to get to the end result, which is fun. But you provide the environment and then let them play how they want and know how it's going to kind of, you know, all shake out
Starting point is 00:08:57 or what the ultimate climax is going to be that you're going to bring to their doorstep. But that's been super helpful to me. So that's definitely been the biggest thing I've learned. It's very true. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Sean's been bringing the ultimate climax to all of our doors this season. I don't need to respond. Elizabeth says pass. Elizabeth said I didn't learn a single fucking thing. I was like, we can keep this moving. Not everyone. Elizabeth said I didn't learn a single fucking thing. I was like, we can keep this moving. Elizabeth said I don't need to learn anything when I'm teaching y'all what to do. No way.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I was just like, yeah. Everyone said my thoughts. We can go on to the next question. You're going to be the first to answer this next question. Oh, weapons of its past. Oh, yeah. ditto question you're gonna be the first to answer this next question oh yeah the last one was from uh soap on the discord and uh this one is from jay reese or drees i have absolutely loved season four listen to every episode and bonus more than once. Thank you, Treece. Hello. My cue to each PC, so I'm left out of this one. I'll still answer.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Don't worry, Treece. Did any choices you made as your character surprise you? Were there any moments where you realized something you didn't expect about your character? Yeah. I didn't realize Beef was going to be so nervous to fall in love when he was falling in love. When I created the character
Starting point is 00:10:34 in the beginning, my vibe for him was like Austin Powers mojo guy. He's got all the mojo and he can have whoever he wants but uh as beef unfolds through the seasons and then especially this one this season we wanted to present beef with an actual um romance and i didn't know i really as i play, I don't know what he's going to do. And then his reaction to Aaron's character, he was very nervous.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And I thought that was very sweet and very on brand for him. But it did surprise me. And I thought Aaron did such a lovely job playing percival percy um his counterpart and it it's always so easy to improvise with aaron in those kinds of spaces as well oh it's easy to improvise fall in love with me elizabeth is that what you're saying? Whoopsies. Did I expose myself? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was so surprised with the kiss that he messed up the first kiss and then he was like, let's do it again. He had to roll for athletics.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Into a Nat 20, right? Oh, that was awesome. Oh, my God. Yeah. I'm done. I'm done. Oh my god, yeah. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I've always thought as Chalice as the most despicable of the group. I feel like she had the longest to go to become a good person. It's very true. Because when she shows up, you guys are sort of already been cooking in that environment a little while like you guys had character development from when you showed up like bottoms up chain had already changed your characters a little bit and chalice hadn't been changed she was like just a spoiled brat but i thought this season was fun because chalice actually got to rise to the occasion of being a woman of the people a little bit. Her reaction to the birds, wanting to save the birds.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And wanting to do right by people and expose her father. I thought she was able to move the needle. Yeah, I think we were already bottom feeders and aware of it. Chalice has always been a bottom feeder in her heart. But it's just getting to that point of just being there that's a really that's a good one I can see that that's like really really cool I think for Seb after last season tore him to shreds and just like really needed to kind of find a way back
Starting point is 00:13:20 from that and so I don't know I felt like we were speaking of like a playground but i felt like this was like a playground for seb in terms of just kind of like i was knocked down like and burnt off all of this like brush or what have you and so now it's just kind of like seeing what has grown out of it seeing you know how quickly i can make sean uh try to tell me no i can't i can't say that i just have a barrel in my pocket like you know just like stuff like that so i don't know i think i think this has just been a big growth one for seb as well i mean for all of us there was like a very humanity like i don't know there was like something where it was like, I don't know. There was like something where it was like,
Starting point is 00:14:05 we didn't want to die. We didn't want, like we wanted to connect with people, like really kind of got us down to our ooey gooey cores. And I don't know. I love this season because of that. Cause it kind of made fertile ground for some really cool moments to come out of.
Starting point is 00:14:22 For Chip. I feel like some of the specific moments that I think about that, like I'm very happy with the choices and I feel like they surprised me in a good way. One of them was when it was Chalice's birthday and Chip didn't know it was Chalice's birthday. That was like a very fun choice
Starting point is 00:14:37 that I felt like I made and it ended up being a great runner throughout episodes, which I feel like I'm always seeking out. And that one just felt super, super natural and it worked out super well in my opinion uh and i really is yeah exactly uh i i had a lot of fun doing that and then another small choice that was just me surprising me uh was uh not as chipped but as um don't laugh at me that's a question right just the way that you it's just the title of your
Starting point is 00:15:09 unpublished book is me surprising me and it's you looking in the mirror scared scared scared holding a handheld mirror too so there's three of you
Starting point is 00:15:22 yeah but it was Mia's hands saying bye Holding a handheld mirror too, so there's three of you. Oh. Yeah. Wow. But it was Mia's hands saying bye was surprising to me. I will say that felt like so Waleed improv move. Yeah. It's just perfectly timed. That's like old school IO comet. Yeah. I think it got cut out of the episode but me right after i did that i was like i'm sorry i could do something else if you want me to oh yeah which is also the
Starting point is 00:15:55 most willie thing ever it's so sweet jennifer didn't grow right so no And she's been trying. She's been trying to grow physically. Mostly it's not working. But I was surprised as Jennifer wasn't my choice. But when Beef hurled Jennifer off the side of the ship when they were on the way to find Chalice's biological father i was so surprised and jennifer was integral to that plot but it's one of those fun things as a dm where someone makes a choice and you're like yeah i gotta roll with this and it ended up i was like you do the mental math on the fly where i was like i i actually had planned that if things went awry and you guys ultimately were shipwrecked or were marooned by the rest of the crew
Starting point is 00:16:49 or what have you, once you got off this boat and got to the island, Jennifer would somehow have been separated from you. I was going to try to figure out a way to have that happen, but had it planned way later in the episode. More like a shipwreck. She gets, you know, in the chaos, you a shipwreck she gets you know in the chaos you lose her you think she's drowned or whatever but uh to have it just be like six minutes and
Starting point is 00:17:11 beef hugs are off the side i was like oh no and i was like wait we were dancing around it yeah we were all talking about it i definitely i was gonna do it i was like no this might ruin everything that sean has planned. And then Elizabeth said, fuck that, bro. I'm like Sean's worst nightmare when we're playing this. I love that. Yeah, he's like, but what about the D&D? And I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:36 That also led to my second favorite joke of the season of us just being like, she always finds her way back to us. When we went on vacation, we went there and she was our waiter. And then Ben was like, and then she had been training there for two weeks. She was new. Like she wasn't new anymore. She had been there a while. I also love in that episode at one point, then we're talking about Jennifer later.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Like we, I think we were talking about, do we feel bad about it? And then we, Sean, you have Jennifer screaming in the background. So good. Awesome. So thank you, J. Reese, for that question. Or Dries. The next one, or Dries. And this one is David Boss or Davidibus.
Starting point is 00:18:20 They're asking, what improv moment from someone else will lead? No, it does say this. It does say, what improv moment from someone else will lead. No, it does say what improv moment from someone else made you laugh the most this season. Ooh, I think I know. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And this issue with this is there's recorded audio of this. So you have to get the right answer. Um, I mean, I have a million, I might say more after I say this, but my favorite moment from this season or any season was the Onion Man part of the comment box.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Whoever sent in that comment. Let's go! It's my favorite. I love the Onion Man. You guys, Aaron has been talking about the Onion Man. I won't shut up about the Onion Man, you guys. He was born. I can't stop thinking about him.
Starting point is 00:19:00 But there's a part in it, and I actually, I think it was Grace who edited that episode, and I had her space it out. Um, cause we were talking over each other. We're so excited, but, uh,
Starting point is 00:19:10 we'll lead going. Could it be you? Could it be you? Could it be you? Yes. Um, I thought about for like a week in my head after I was like, that's actually the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life.
Starting point is 00:19:21 One of my favorite moments is in the Centauri Povich show, which is Beef on the Catwalk. That is up there for like favorite moments when she, when Beef is looking at everybody and making eye contact with them and then slitting, like doing the finger across the throat. And in particular, I love that you misspeak there and you say i put my finger to my ear and then put my finger across my throat i died i died i i love in that episode too uh the sun and the moon i think it's ben and yeah it's me and ben yeah yeah have a full-on argument as the sun and the moon and it kills me i think also when aaron climbed the ceiling as um a spider spider-man yeah um in the it was just crazy i gotta say another one from the Tori Povich show too which is when
Starting point is 00:20:25 when Ben is like I don't remember the prompt but he's like can I do a disguise or something and then Elizabeth is like what are you gonna be a curtain or something oh yeah absolutely gets him really scorched me
Starting point is 00:20:41 I didn't even understand it but I was like whoa I think everyone is mad at me. I also loved Beef rolling a 20 when he gets thrown onto the stage and barred in the barbecues. I loved that entire sequence of him deciding to get on stage that way. I also thought Jesse Kendall as Milk Nip this season had some improv moments, especially in those first three episodes that I just thought were brilliant.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Oh, yeah. I love when he lists out his apologies at the end of his first episode with us. To the listener, he came with 49, just prepared and was listing them off. And it would be like, some of you are 49, just like prepared and was like listing them off. And it would be like, some of you are like, I don't know. But there were so many that were like, whoa, oh my God. Can't say that.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Oh, but I think, I mean, the ones that made it in, I love too. But I thought that was so funny. That really killed me. Yeah. I don't know why I have to apologize for this, but sorry I made Frasier a Pepsi town. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, I thought of another improv I loved. Waleed making it so I said, can I roll again after I botched rolled for getting high? Do you know what I mean? In the barbecues, I rolled a one for getting high do you know what i mean like uh in the barton barbecues i rolled a one for how high yeah for or whatever 20 or whatever and then i said can i roll again and
Starting point is 00:22:12 then uh will lead was like chalice just said that out loud oh yeah which made that fun little meta game of the realities yeah yeah yeah and then chalice was like i'm staring at a macbook they're like yeah like kind of like oh the the psychosis or whatever when like everyone is like high and they can like see themselves and they're like that really killed me while we were doing it that's a fun runner yeah um yeah i also liked from the chaotic episode of Seb's, when we go to Seb's parents' house. Seb versus Seb. Seb versus Seb. Yeah, I love that one.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Everyone becoming Seb was so funny and also such a nightmare. It was so funny. And then you run out of the house and the next time we see you, man. You're like, get kicked. You run out of the house. And the next time we see you, you're like fighting over a bone.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Alleyway. I forgot about that. Yeah. Roasted sweet chicken. There was one moment where we'd says, as Seb goes, I just want to be, I just want to get it off my,
Starting point is 00:23:24 like, just want to go out and say it right here. I'm not the real Seb. I'm not the real Seb. And then Beef just bounces right off and goes, I'm the real Seb. And I love that. That really, really, really got me.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I also love, this was like completely improvised, which was so fun which is like what's who's a rich family around that could potentially be a new home for you know Jordan Lee Cohen's character you know imposter Seb and uh so I love that it became seven sub X and real sub was sub X is just so funny. And sub Y and sub how, but the ending of that was probably the hardest. I laughed, which is Jordan Lee Cohen's doppelganger. She goes ahead and changes into what would be be the your best idea of what deborah handbags missing child look like which ended up being very far off and so then deborah ham is like
Starting point is 00:24:33 who the hell are you and then the real kid comes out of the woods and it's like mom and then jordan tackles them and starts wrestling and when jordan made the decision to tackle them and really wrestle them in front of them and strike, I was dying. Yeah. Oh, wild. Man, yeah, we were rich with good guests. Mono. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:24:54 It was like, everything he said was just a delight. Jeff Murdock and Joe Scott at the beginning the beginning yeah oh yeah they're pretty incredible lines by jeff like uh i think i posted this one but the we drink ghosts they are spirits after all pretty incredible pretty incredible nothing better i loved so many of our guests but I thought Carly coming in felt like such a one of us moment to be able to come in and improvise with a lot of people that you've only met like once or never I think it's such an incredible
Starting point is 00:25:34 skill and she just came in and made it look so easy it was just really fun to talk to before the episode even got started I was like oh about sandwiches yeah that's how you know you fit in yeah it was just about sandwiches was like, about sandwiches? Yeah. That's how you know you fit in. Yeah. It was just about sandwiches. All of us were like, that's so
Starting point is 00:25:49 awesome. It was just a really good energy that carried throughout the episode and it was really fun. And it was so awesome and lucky that Jesse Kendall's a close friend of ours and a listener of the show, a fan of the show, and is just the perfect Prince Milkman.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah, truly. Truly. Disgusting. Oh my gosh. That's, I laughed pretty hard when he was, had to be fed cupcakes
Starting point is 00:26:16 and it was like missing his mouth and everyone was like shuffling their feet. There's a huge gathering of people watching it happen. Chew for me. And then moving his jaw. How long did you have season four,
Starting point is 00:26:35 episode 20's title name slash general concept? And that's from Jade Cipher. And I'll go ahead and get it started by saying right away. We knew very early on. That was a lead idea for episode 20 we wanted to we wanted to make it getting high focused yeah that was something i pitched ahead of the season thinking that that would be an incredible like right before the finale type of vibe and i think it worked out yeah so that was uh that was definitely something we that i pitched beforehand. However, it was not like a season one thing. It was definitely
Starting point is 00:27:08 like maybe end of season three I came up with it. He's lying. He's been sitting on this for years. Long before we even started the show. Guys! That's Ben Waleed's secret finish line in season four, episode
Starting point is 00:27:24 20. I thought we were going to be done after that episode. There have been several new event mechanics, like for the 420 episodes and all the infiltration contest. Which were your favorite? Any worth revisiting? Are there mechanics you would like to explore
Starting point is 00:27:42 in future seasons? And that's from AK. Before we answer that, quick shout out to Elizabeth for coming up with those infiltration episode ideas. That was your idea from the beginning to have all of us pick a different job. Oh. Elizabeth doesn't remember doing this. It was your idea. Great job. Thanks, Aaron. Yeah, it was such a cool idea,izabeth of like we know chalice is taken and then you know we get we get a little break in between seasons so we we like to blue sky it together as a group and then have as much of it still be a surprise for the players um what like
Starting point is 00:28:21 on an individual episode level but still kind of know the major conceit as well as different like oh and 420 wouldn't it be fun to do a 420 concept and uh also have character choices which i think is a cool thing that i would want to bring into any kind of dnd um campaign that i'd be a part of is like having your characters also be able to make choices outside of a recording. So Elizabeth proposing the idea of like, okay, you know, Chalice is captured. We're going to try to get her out of the castle. What if each of us tried to be something different and infiltrate to get as close to Chalice as possible? It's like, hell yeah, we could, we can do that in individual episodes. And then i think
Starting point is 00:29:05 it was a group thought of like what if so if they're all happening the same day could we have prince milk nip come and be in each one um and have it be like a a single flowing chronological day for prince milk nip that we experienced in in the different episodes and it was a lot of work but i think it paid off it was a ton of fun yeah it was definitely a lot of work yeah i was gonna say one of my favorite mechanics that we used this season two was for the uh the another hoy family reunion episode where sean set up basically like we it was like a mystery and we had three different suspects we were trying to solve a mystery and that was very fun to go to have to interview them with different tactics and use our like insight. I think beef used some like mind reading.
Starting point is 00:29:53 We went inside somebody's house to like try and figure out, it was a bit of a whodunit at obviously the ending being that none of them had done it. But I, I really liked that mechanic. I think that worked out super well on that episode. Hey, if you're listening to this, you better listen to the whole season.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I'm halfway through season one, man. Well, I had the same answer. I also love a mystery-solving mechanic anywhere. It's my fave. But that one felt really fun. I also loved that we could go in any order. It really did feel like we could go in any order really
Starting point is 00:30:25 did feel like we could solve it however we wanted it sort of felt like just like a one shot sort of and so much of like i mean a lot of our episodes are like beginning middle and end so it is very like one shoddy when we make this but like that one felt like tabletop rpg like we we have an hour and a half and we're getting through like this mystery and stuff and there was all sorts of checks being done and there was like an environment i don't know it was very very cool uh i really did enjoy that one too and i loved it because it had that feel to it as well i like the ship one because sean sent us an image of the ship that we were on and um i really liked that mechanic too that we were stuck on the ship and we had to make and we all could go to different parts of the ship
Starting point is 00:31:13 um to solve the issues that we were fighting but yeah that was one that stood out to me yeah i found myself going back to that too. Just feeling like, oh, that felt like a very mentally lived in space. Like that one felt very tangible to me. And I think that happens anytime it's any semblance of like a bottle episode. Because you're in the theater of the mind, that stuff really starts to get some detail to it if you spend enough time there improvising, which is fun. One for me that was very fun, like the mechanic
Starting point is 00:31:50 and then also getting, it's very fun to get to like play, you know, improv chess against each other, which was a blast during the hunt for Red Swantober, which was just a really fun uh idea of that aaron had for a long time of like i bet chalice i bet chalice's fucking rich weird family has some weird hunting thing that they got going on um and for those outside of aaron and myself having the you're hunting a monster turn into the well is this a monster oh no this is something great and then having you guys try your best to like pick up the clues of how does this thing that we're hunting actually operate where is it
Starting point is 00:32:40 actually operating out of and like picking up on those clues and and having those things revealed the the ways in which that unfolded was very unplanned and then by the end of it i remember feeling like oh that like couldn't have gone better if i like tried to write it it's just the way it unfolded was was very very fun the mechanics of it again the playground thing of like you just set the stage and then bounce off each other. It was very fun. I also liked when we went to the library. I liked the library a lot too. And the mechanic of going and getting all the stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Oh yeah. That reminds me of a decision I made. Seb became a smoker this season. I just kept on smoking in that episode. That's so funny. Which is not good. I became a smoker.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Who is your dream podcast? Can be real or fictional, alive or dead. This is from Weedle, the Gunrat King. Fictional too? I was just saying this to Elizabeth, but I would love to have Betsy Sedaro on as something related to beef like them being a duo of some kind
Starting point is 00:33:52 I think would be so good would love would die to love like Homer Simpson being on would be fun I agree it'd be pretty fun to have on the Beatles and have being on would be fun. I agree. It'd be pretty fun to have on the Beatles and
Starting point is 00:34:07 have Beef be kind of like a Pete Best kind of situation. Wow. He was kicked out right before they got super famous but we actually have the Beatles on. Would be very fun. That would be crazy to meet the Beatles through a podcast.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Do you think that they would be able to do it? They'd be like, what is this? Can you imagine Paul McCartney being like, I'm a big fan of yours and saying that to you? I'd be like, no. Honestly, Ben, if you can't, that's fucked up. You need to see a coach of some sort to get your head right. That's how I wake up every morning.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Paul McCartney would fucking love the shit I make. I would die to play with Conan O'Brien. Oh, I mean. That would be so incredible. One that would be cool and maybe accessible, now that he's on HeadGum, is Jake Johnson. I'd love Jake Johnson to be on the show i think he would be hysterical and would be incredible sitcom royalty being on asked super nice and approached him really carefully and paid him 50 000 50,000? Wait, how about this? If anyone wants to tweet at him for us,
Starting point is 00:35:27 maybe he just makes a 10-minute cameo as the janitor of Bottoms Up that's always there. He doesn't even have to come for a full episode. We'll record with him for seven minutes. Yeah, we won't even need him. He plays Jonathan the Spirit Guard, come back to life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:41 We won't even bother him. We won't meet him. He can just record it and send it to us in the mail. We can just buy a cameo. That's what we should do is we should just buy cameos. We should just buy cameos and throw them onto this show. Okay. And like the description of the cameo.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Yeah. It's like, hey, can you be a janitor? If you buy a cameo and you send it to us we'll play it at some point it'd be so funny if it's like lance bass and he's like hi i love being at bottoms up can i have a beer yes we just riddle the show with cameos this is genius we're gonna get sued i mean that's what sitcoms do we could do a cast that speaks with dead and just shoot our cameo person five questions and the five questions you would ask and then we just use their audio of their responses i love it oh my god that dead soldier was Christopher Walken.
Starting point is 00:36:49 They're like, wow, Christopher Walken's a fan of sitcom D&D? Oh man, that would be really fun. No. No. Have y'all gotten cameos, either bought or received? I got one from Beans. From Beans? Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:04 From Even Stevens? Yeah. Beans? Is. From Even Stevens? Yeah. Beans? Beans? Is he doing okay? He's doing great. Oh, good. It is absolutely absurd. What does he say to me?
Starting point is 00:37:14 He says like, my friend prompted him that me and Emma are not doing well in the boudoir, I think, or something like that. Oh, my God. The insane boudoir. He's like, hey, man, that's okay, dude. Like, you know, like, after you have a kid, like, that's life. And it's so funny hearing it all from Beans. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Santa is on Cameo. No. How much? One and only? Yeah. How much? There's a couple Santas. Should be free.
Starting point is 00:37:40 There's a couple? This one, this Santa's only, this one's only $9. Oh, no, Santa. It probably goes up seasonally, I would imagine. Chuck Norris is on here. Did you say fuck Norris? I said Chuck Norris. I said fuck Norris.
Starting point is 00:37:59 This is another one from Weedle the Gunrat King. If each character got a wish spell, what would they wish for? And how has that changed since the beginning of the series? Didn't Beef get a wish or something? He threw it away. He stepped on a wish and asked for three Bloody Marys.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Oh, God. Oh, yeah. So he hasn't changed. Yeah. I don't know the extent of this spell I know that it's pretty powerful but if I could wish for anything
Starting point is 00:38:31 I think Chip would probably wish that he would have actually slayed Dioxide and that Brandon was still alive that he both
Starting point is 00:38:40 would be a hero and still have his best friend around great answer so he could stop living that lie. And I'm curious. Yeah, great two for one. I don't know if that would have changed.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I mean, obviously at the beginning of the show, people that know about Chip's actual backstory, but I don't think that would have changed. I think that's what he still wants, is to be a hero in everybody's eyes. I think early on, Chalice would have wished for freedom without having to change herself
Starting point is 00:39:04 or let go of any luxury. But I think now Chalice would wish for more time with her mom. Ooh, right in the feels. I think Seb would probably, at the beginning, would have wished to be anyone else. His energy was just so much anxious anxiety and self-hatred. But I feel like now he would wish for something. I don't know. He's a little bit out of his shell.
Starting point is 00:39:35 He's a little bit funkier. I felt the character has grown. It finds a way to be weird and everything. I feel like he would wish for something strange. A big hat. Yes. finds a way to be weird and everything, I feel like I would wish for something strange. Like... A big hat. Yes, like a big cowboy hat with a buckle on it. Like a pilgrim buckle on it.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Wow, a cowboy hat. That is strange. You need a wish spell for one of those. I think Beef would wish for a vending machine that always gave him a sandwich and only him. No one else could get into the vending machine. Damn, Beef. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Could you give the sandwiches to other people or no? Yeah, he could. He won't. He turned to Ash. He won't. He won't. Because he's always worried they're going to run out. Yeah, but they never do.
Starting point is 00:40:23 This could be the last one. Who knows? But who knows but who knows it's been 25 years they're so common dude yeah or to maybe never lose his voice his singing voice again if you want me to get real
Starting point is 00:40:38 honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he picked sandwiches over his voice yeah you would at least pause to think about it yeah he'd think about it now i want to get through some um a bunch of questions too so um this one's actually more of a request can we lead please do official art of seb's hot mom so we all know just how hot she is that's a good idea if uh i can potentially if i got some time but in the meantime feel free to
Starting point is 00:41:06 just watch the stacy's mom video with fountains of wayne by fountains of wayne and you'll get a pretty good idea with fountains of wayne get them over there yeah they're in the background singing they're on cameo yeah that was from mitchell cranberry Crispy. And we got one from Nebula Lucas. Any possibility a guest fan could ever do a one-liner on an episode, possibly for a contest? If you get on Cameo, we'll find you. We'll do a Cameo. I think that'd be a fun thing. That'd be so fun.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Yeah. Maybe like a raffle of donating to a charity and then we pull a name and then you get a line. I like that. I love that. This is a great one from Edam Cheeserton. When playing, do you think like your PC and get method in the role or are you playing your character?
Starting point is 00:42:04 So do you like go as yourself and just do whatever you would do and that's who your character is? Or do you go one step removed and go, what would Beef do? What would Chip do? What would Seb do? What would Chalice do,
Starting point is 00:42:16 given the circumstances? Or is it some kind of combo? Interesting. Well, I think Chalice is a combination of like thinking about sitcom characters like Rachel Green or like the It's Always Sunny crew. Like people who are sort of self-serving for the most part have the impulse to be self-serving. But I would say most of Chalice's choices are just motivated by me trying to make this specific group of people laugh or have them like an improv move i make i feel like that's what chalice is is just trying to impress you guys what's the moment in this
Starting point is 00:42:51 season where everyone's like you got a cool character it's when we're on the boat headed to exile i don't remember what prompts us to say that i think it's maybe you're just concerned about how your dad's gonna react to you oh yeah oh no that's what it is where you're trying you're trying to think of how to remind or try to tell him that you're uh your mother's daughter and we're like going through all the things that you have and you said i forgot everything about my character and we're like you got a cool character oh yeah because i was like i I have this, the ring and everything. I definitely feel, I definitely don't think at all when I'm playing Beef, he likes to not think at all. He's a reactor. But as Elizabeth, I definitely feel in episodes, it's like you're looking over everything.
Starting point is 00:43:48 episodes it's like you're looking over everything it's like you're kind of above yourself and thinking okay we just set that joke up i'm gonna bring that back in like five minutes and that's it's like a like a second self like that's the improviser um kind of like thinking above the everything. But you gotta be able to like come back into your character and like not, and then not think and then react to with your gut and your heart. And I think that everyone in this group does those two things very well. I think we listen as our characters, but we also are listening with a higher frequency for how we want to map the episode.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah, it's definitely a combo of both, and I think that's probably, to a certain extent, the case across the board. But for me in particular, when I'm playing chip one of the things I try really hard and I do like really think about is like only making moves that make sense for chip like I really really try to be like is this something that chip would do or like is this something chip wouldn't do and i try not to do those things um i really want to i'd really try hard to say stay truthful to what uh like chip's motivations are uh and who he is as a character so if something feels um inauthentic to chip i really
Starting point is 00:45:20 try to avoid it that's that's another big part of it for me. I think for Seb, I just kind of, there's a lot of myself in that character, but I just kind of dial it up. So it's just kind of like, I just kind of turn it up. And then, yeah, we're like improvisers. So a lot of it is, and we're so used to these characters. And I know for me where it's just like, we get in there, boom.
Starting point is 00:45:44 I'm just like, it's just like we get in there boom I'm just like like that's this is just improv but with like kind of a little bit different kind of cadence to my voice or something like that but oh oh here Ben yes
Starting point is 00:46:02 Benny back what what's the date Ben? Yes. Ben, are you back? Ben. Yes, yes. Ben. What's the date? It's 2004. No. This was also from Eden Cheeserton. I'd like to ask something similar to this. When addressing kitchen rats in Bottoms Up, can you name some of us here in the Discord?
Starting point is 00:46:23 And the answer is yes. Any plans? This is a different question. This is for all of us. Dmartin G. asked this one. Any plans for the characters to go to a zoo, an aquarium, and or go on a safari so Seb can wild shape into more animals?
Starting point is 00:46:40 Well, now we will. That's a great episode idea. Season five. We'll see you there. Can do. Next question. Who were your favorite NPCs from season four? I'm going to have to go with Mr.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Pibb in the at the jail is up there for me. I always love Mr. Pibb and hate him, but at prison in particular was very fun. It was really fun for us all each to have our turn of going there and just seeing how it would turn out and everything. It was just great.
Starting point is 00:47:13 I really liked Beef's grandma. Oh, she was sweet. Wait, Waleed, what was the rock, your sentient rock that you played? Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I think it was Rocky. I think it was Rocky. I think it was Rocky.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Is that just a really good guess or do you know? I think it's Rocky the Rock Johnson. Yes. I loved that episode. That was a really fun episode to record. That was probably my favorite non-chip character I played. Oh my God. Yeah. And Seb's infiltration.
Starting point is 00:47:46 It wasn't beef when you played beef? I liked the holes that Rocky had. Ah, yeah. Or the one hole. And how often you talked about them. Remember when he T-shirt cannon shot? Yeah, that was awesome. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Oh, yeah. Never forget. Never forget. I did like when Aaron played the duck in Aquaducks. Oh, yeah. You played the duck. I forgot about that. I can't believe that was this season.
Starting point is 00:48:13 You played like a little duck that was like, bleh. I guess I did. I can't deny it. I think my favorite to do, but this was like love and hate because i think we'll lead early on i started doing the the voice for um chris pine the pine tree who who was uh the like the library's you know knowledge right and i started doing like basically the tree beard voice where you also talk while you breathe in. And he was like, hey, just so you know, man, that like wrecks your throat.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I was like, I'll be fine, baby boy. Yeah, you were so confident. And then 30 seconds later, it's like, oh, God, I feel like I'm strapped. It is so funny, Sean. That was very fun. Because you have such an arsenal now of all of these like regular characters that come back. And it's so funny when we're recording. Sometimes Sean has to be like, oh, what's their voice again?
Starting point is 00:49:15 And then he has to like run through them and we all have to listen to it. It's like we're like that one. That one is like, oh, man, is is crazy. You should do voice memos for all your characters that you do and then just like name them all and when you need to reference them go reference them again like 52 right now it's nuts i know i have run out and now i have to invent new ones um where i go like it's basically i don't have any other like back pocket voices so instead i have to go who would i cast as this character and then do my best worst impression of that person that's a good
Starting point is 00:49:55 way to do it that's cool that's a good way to find voices yeah that's very smart it is it's been it's been getting me by um let's see here sir this is a serious question very lukely asked does the bottoms up gang have a party name just wondering so i can potentially stop calling them the bottoms up gang slash crew i know that the repairs are their superhero parody name for more generic heroic quests but when things get more serious than superhero parodies and a king needs slaying, what are they collectively? Repairs is also potentially a correct answer. I just think it might be an important distinction to make.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I definitely think we've been going by bottoms up gang. That feels like the main moniker for the crew. Yeah, I feel like we were afraid for a while to go with gang, just because it almost felt like too close to like it's always sunny or something like that but yeah that's true we haven't really i mean we don't have like a consistent one so like that's my my pitches if you want to hear my pitches i got two always first we call ourselves the birds which is what we call ourselves the birds, which is what we call ourselves at the end of season one.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Doing a puppet show. That's my first pitch. Second pitch is an acronym for the Bottoms Up Gang, and we're the bugs. Bottoms Up Gang, we're the bugs. I want to be the bugs. Okay. It's my vote. And I'm just one little vote.
Starting point is 00:51:23 The bugs go on another big adventure. We're bugging out. That's what we say whenever we leave the bar. Bugs out. Bugs out. Bugs out. Bugs in. We're sorry to bug you. We promise to do this throughout all of season five
Starting point is 00:51:40 and we won't even drop it one time. Or we're going to forget. Either way. One of the two. You figure out. I love life. One of the two. You figure out. I love life. Keep listening. Keep listening to find out.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Okay, so I think we have time for a couple more. This one, I want to ask you guys if this is something that we feel like is helpful to cover or to keep it secret how the sausage was made. But the question is from Tess Warner did you always have the Hail Mary to save the characters for the end of season were you looking at potentially losing them and having to roll new characters whoa I did not want to have anyone die and was really hoping they would put together the, you know, water is thicker than
Starting point is 00:52:28 blood essentially. Um, which is, you know, like family is more important than what your blood is biologically. It was so funny that at the end, you know, I was really banking on them putting that together. And if they didn't, you know, i don't know what would happen but it's very funny to have jesse bring that up i think everyone kind of knew tongue in cheek like that's probably what's gonna happen but to have our guest be like it was perfect um i don't overstep my bounds here but like would that be a solution we all just died we're we got to do that. I don't know what ended up making the cut, but in the recording, at first Jesse says it.
Starting point is 00:53:09 As Jesse, Jesse's like, why don't you guys just like, you guys are basically family. Why don't you guys just give each other the blood? And then we're like, that is so funny. Jesse, can you please do it as Prince Milk Nip? And then that definitely makes the edit. But yeah, we like,
Starting point is 00:53:24 it was so funny that he had a nice genuine moment of like, I'm trying to help you guys out. We didn't, yeah. Well, we didn't know if whose family members were going to show up or not. And so genuinely, I think you can really hear it in our voices, like especially Chip and Beef near the end. Like, I really didn't know what was going to happen. I yeah, we didn't think we were going to lose our characters completely and have to re remake one. But, you know, if season five started with the two of us in heaven on the sandwich cloud trying to figure out ways
Starting point is 00:54:08 to get back to life. That would have been awesome. Right? We could figure that out. Yeah, like we would have maybe, you know, done that. Yeah. Seeing on the Discord too, someone say like, oh, you know, could this possibly end in like a total party kill? That made me kind of go
Starting point is 00:54:24 shit, that would be awesome. If everyone just died. And then in like the next season starts in heaven or some other plane would be like super fun. It's kind of jumping the shark for season five. But their heaven is just ending back up at bottoms up just as it is. They don't even notice they died. Maybe that's what this season five is. It's just they love to struggle
Starting point is 00:54:52 and they love to be up against something. This is from Radis Adair. What's Seb's mom's phone number? It's actually your mom's phone number. Hey! number um it's actually your mom's phone number all right all right last question last question jenny's phone number fuck mary kill cicero milk nip seb's hot mom okay mary seb's hot mom so i can have sex with her whenever i want oh is that what marriage is uh kill milk nip oh i don't like this question actually i'm just gonna go on a date with seb's mom and then you guys yeah i'm gonna fucking marry
Starting point is 00:55:40 seb's mom and kill the other two guys that That's all of our answers, I think. You know what? I wouldn't mind going to the bedroom with Prince Milknip. Yeah. Just to see what that's like. Honestly, I'd do all of them. I'd do all of them. Because I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Just out of curiosity. Out of curiosity. I got to know. It's for science. Okay, that's a good ending, I think. See you season five. See you season five, cuties. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Bugs out. That was a HeadGum Podcast.

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