Small Town Murder - #164 - The Idiotic Avenger in Greenwood, Florida

Episode Date: March 26, 2020

This week, in Greenwood, Florida, a local rivalry is heated up when there are accusations of affairs, and worse. This results is an attempt too settle all scores, all at once, with his son as the wingman. Will the perpetrator end up with the death penalty, or even get away with it, all together? This is a crazy tale, from start to finish. Plus, a new edition of The Prisoner Dating Game!! Along the way, we find out that a town with nothing in it isn't much of a town, that when a woman tells you that sex was consensual, it probably was, and that your son might not be the best person to take on a killing spree!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Thursday! Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com & use our email: [e-mail] Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports! Follow us on... twitter.com/@murdersmall facebook.com/smalltownpod instagram.com/smalltownmurder Also, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On iTunes, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I think it's time. Yeah. I think it's time to shout. Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this, Jimmy. Great. Let's do this. Let's go on a trip.

What do you say? Terrific. We're not allowed. No, we're not. Let's do it under the cover of night. Yeah, we're going to do it like we're sneaking in from a forbidden island or something. The full moon is tonight, Jimmy. Get on the raft. That's what we're doing here.

We're coming from Texas last week. Humble, Texas. And it is humble. I don't give a shit how they pronounce it locally. We were told that it's actually it's humble locally. Nope. I just replied. No, it's not. No, it's actually it's humble locally nope i just replied no it's not

no it's not just because 12 000 people pronounce a word wrong that doesn't mean that's how it's pronounced you are the minority friends hey people here are dumb and they say a word wrong why are you telling me i don't give a fuck don't tell me about it i'm dumb and i say it right that's right god damn it it's a that's an established word humble we've established it for a long time you don't get to change it just because you're in texas i'm sorry you can't shoot a word into be it's shoot an h into being silent it doesn't work yes this is uh we're going all the way to florida though oh boy oh boy i know we did florida a little while ago but in in terms of what's going on craziness in the world we need to make fun of Florida. We just have to.

It's one of those things that's going to make everyone feel good. So I found about the panhandliest town I could find. Great. And here we are. It's Greenwood, Florida. Greenwood. Greenwood, Florida. Probably never heard of it.

No. Good reason. It's northwestern Florida. Yeah. Straight panhandle. Right in it. Right smack in the middle of a panhandle. I mean, you can't get any more panhandles.

The granddaddy of the panhandles the meat of the handle right there right where the middle of your hand would go it's fucking meaty uh an hour and 15 minutes over to tallahassee more your panhandle it's a capital but it's also your panhandle uh capital uh four hours up to atlanta well i want to go somewhere better And then five hours and 40 minutes to Altoris, which is the last episode we did, which was down by Orlando. Was that the one with the mailing addresses were fucking weird? Oh, yeah. All the mailing addresses are weird.

This is also 10 minutes away from a town called Two Egg, Florida. Two Egg. We'll talk about Two Egg. Oh, boy. It's Two Egg, Florida. People call me Two Egg. I'm Jimmy Two Egg. That's what they call me. They counted them. Oh, you know. There's one and two. Jimmy Two Egg. Oh, boy. It's Two Egg, Florida. People call me Two Egg. I'm Jimmy Two Egg. That's what they call me.

They counted them. Oh, you know. There's one and two. Jimmy Two Egg. He's got two. It's Jackson County this is in. Yeah. I'll give you one hint who that's named after.

Andrew. Oh, you know it down here. The zip code 32443, area code 850. It's 4.5 square miles, and it is very bleak here, we'll just say. Not the swamp? No, there's reasons for the bleakness of natural disaster and other things, but it was bleak anyway. That's the thing

here. But they have a motto. It is quote, true southern living in northwest Florida. And there's an ellipses in there. True southern living dot dot dot in northwest Florida. So there's that or a little lesser known one this is a people in two egg probably know this one or the people around it they don't use it so much in here but quote if walmart was a town dot dot dot that's their

other one so they like ellipses let's use them against them here so a little bit of history of this town here. After the Civil War, this town was overrun with violence. There was a lot of Confederate veterans here who did not like that there was a lot of free black people now in this area. They didn't care for that and didn't care for the people who were trying to help them either. So there was a lot of strife there going on this is kind of the this is one of the one of the early hotbeds of the clan down here yeah this is the this was really coming coming into its own in areas like this definitely here the uh terrible economic conditions also there because it had been mostly cotton plantations before the war, which and they were, you know, things were there was a lot of problems of decline in the international market, all sorts of stuff. The the Klan, there was a Klan chapter there early and one of the first and they would do all sorts of violence and everything like that.

And it wasn't wasn't great uh through oh boy oh boy look at jimmy i don't think so jimmy jimmy sneezing i'm sorry i think that that's probably the the tree in my yard with all the flowers on it that i could smell outside when we were on that phone call like damn it that thing was surrounding my head brutal yeah if anyone had that in their yard we'd say 100 of everyone has a it's terrible everybody's constantly sneezing yeah yeah the uh i guess jackson county was what they a historian said was so thoroughly dominated by the clan at every level that it rendered the county and state governments completely powerless to stop them because there were so many clansmen they're

outnumbered in the state government no they were in they were in the position if the sheriff is a clansman who's who you're gonna call yeah that's what i'm saying so that's that's ghostbusters like it's ghostbusters that uh that's how it happened here the clan uh in 1871 it became uh very very bad uh for this whole thing uh it wasn't good stuff in71, the sheriff resigned because he said that the lawlessness that was going on there, he couldn't carry out the duties of sheriff anymore. People were not willing to obey the law. So he said, I'm just, I quit.

And yeah, there was that. And then before him, an official in the county, the clerk of the circuit court was assassinated right before he quit he's like i'm out of here you people are fucking nuts basically i'm gone um because the previous clerk before that was also assassinated my god so it's one of those things if you're not doing exactly what some people want in this area they were gonna they were gonna they were gonna kill you uh 1943 was the last lynching in the county. 43. Wow.

43. This was a guy named Selos Harrison. He had been twice convicted by an all-white jury and sentenced to death. People dragged him from the county jail in Mariana and hanged him while his appeals were going on. Unbelievable. This was 1943. Right. If only there was something better to do in 1943 oh yeah there was hitler right that's right there's a war on choose

your battles assholes how about don't worry about him i got an idea why don't you take all that fucking lynching energy and i don't know go fucking fight hitler save the world good lord what the fuck are you doing hitler exists all of your energy should be in how do we stop hitler now what did that black guy do who gives a shit is he hitler no he's locked up did he bomb pearl harbor fuck no jesus christ i could see if his name was klaus von stuben ron or some shit they were like let's fucking string him up fuck that guy i would understand the sentiment at the time it would happen or his name was like, you know, I don't know, some insert Japanese name.

But not this guy. Hitler. Yeah. Concentrate. That's the guy. Jesus Christ. I'm shocked we won at this point after seeing, knowing that that's what we were occupied with.

Jesus. Shit. It's crazy. So Pender's store was built in 1869 by a guy named napoleon b reilly and uh this store here a guy named lawrence pender purchased the store in 1896 and changed it to pender's and the pender family has operated it ever since and it's still open wow this store yeah in 1940 the guy who bought it in 1896 l L.S. Pender, his sons bought it and renamed the store Pender Sons. And it's currently operated by another generation of Penders, Lawrence Pender II.

Is it like a general store? Yeah, well, that's what I was like. It's got no sign on it. It's like you just have to know it's the store. It's like a speakeasy. It's so, dude, this town. You just have to get your Penders if you know where it is. Yeah, you all go down to Penders. Where is it where is it i'm gonna tell you if you don't know

just turns and goes i don't know where is it i don't need to be associated with you pops a gray thing of straw in his mouth and turns his back on you what's the thing of straw what do you call that a staff i don't know stick of straw so it? Stick of straw. So there is no... Okay, good. I thought I just lost a term, but there is no defined term. How does some of that beech nut clove bubble gum in his face? Oh, yeah. That's how... And hop on down the road.

That's what everybody wants. I don't know how that shit stayed in business. It's just disgusting. Gross. They still have it. They do. They still make it. It's still happening.

The original shelves and heart pine floors are still in place wow so they still have the original shelves up from 125 years ago and the wooden blinds over the windows are still they close them at night when they're closed they shut really they shut the blinds that's how you know they're closed the original blinds the i guess their original wooden blinds here they i tried to figure out what the hell they have there and all i could find was quote the store maintains a wide variety of items and if you can't find something anywhere else the odds are you could find it here since all the shit nobody since the late 1800s the store has been a focal point of life in greenwood and remains so today so what do they have it's

just like you can't find it here it's the beach nut you have like a you know some weird uh cookie from finland yeah and like a carburetor for a 68 vw bug and like just weird it's down there appenders stuff it must be appenders like what is it fuck i can't find my keys i'll go down to pendry they might have them no it's for my car i'm telling you it's weird they sell all the weird shit that nobody else wants i didn't think they would have an axle for a 1914 model t but they did it's amazing they had it was original stock so uh fucking weird the town hall is located across from the store so that's pretty much all it is the northern part uh i guess of this building was the post office until 1988 and then the uh the southern part was a pure oil

company service station in the 1930s and uh there was that now in october 2018 as if this bleak town couldn't get any bleaker yeah hurricane michael came through and fucking just devastated this place really and it is bad now uh very slow fixing things they only had one grocery store in the whole town before that and it caught fire oh no after the hurricane uh so year this was in 2018 as of late 2019 they still had no grocery store it wasn't replaced nobody came in uh there They said they were trying to band together the residents to assist elderly people who can't travel to get food. There's nowhere to get food in town. You're just literally stranded. The card isn't coming out there.

No, no one's coming out there. The line, this one, there was an article on this and the line when the reporter was there to get fresh produce, is hours long. Hours. They have a food giveaway. Yeah. And all the residents who can't really go anywhere else, low income or elderly, they have to wait. Unbelievable. So, hours long.

Volunteers are trying to, you know, hand out shit. And they've got sandwiches and shit they're trying to give people. Hey, Penders, they can't find bananas. Maybe you stock that shit. Yeah. That's. Yeah. How about that?

Get your fan belts. Hey, Penders, some fresh produce maybe it's a fan belt aisle emptied out and put some fresh produce in there who's you never know though my 74 nova could throw a rod at any moment jimmy you never know i gotta be there so uh this one uh one person here or one woman she she was in line waiting to get produce, and her house was destroyed by the hurricane. While she was in line? No, no, no. Before that.

That's why she was in line, because her house was destroyed by a hurricane. I'm talking about insult to injury. I can't get tomatoes, and my house has disappeared? What happened? Shit. I don't want to get out of line. What do I do? Shit.

Will you hold my place while I go collect my meager belongings and put them into my truck? Thank God I was here waiting on tomatoes because otherwise I could be dead. Yeah. This poor woman said, I believe we are the forgotten county, Jackson County, especially Greenwood. And then another woman here, a woman named Christina Jeter, who said she's been living with mold and no air conditioning and a fallen tree on her home that has fucked up her roof as well. It's still on her house.

A year. Jesus. A fallen tree, a fallen tree, mold and no air conditioning. And she's living like this for a year. That's not you can't live like that. That's awful. She should get her son, Derek, to fix that. That's what I'm saying.

That's what I was going to say. I was going to say Derek is built like a 30,000 square foot mansion over by Tampa. You should really just take the trip over to Tampa. It's probably about three hours. Go see your nephew. It's going to be much better. She said, quote, we didn't even have electricity for months. Months.

What? Months. We lived without running water for I don't know how long. James, how many people live here? We'll find out. No running water, no electricity. know how long james how many people live here we'll find out no running water no electricity think about that unbelievable she was working for as a caregiver for a woman but the woman died after the hurricane hurricane didn't kill her she just happened to die and uh this woman who was a uh like a like a home nurse has taken up roofing to survive because

there's just no other way to get by um i mean that's give her all the credit in the world for uh picking a career that uh her environment has just gifted her that's the sounds like everybody needs a room start with hers yeah fucking tree on it uh she said we don't have a kitchen anymore so if there was a deli here we could have hot food every day what is happening there's no this town has no restaurants no gas stations and for the year after the hurricane no grocery store at all either uh the nearest grocery store is 10 minutes away in two egg over there but people like her she said she can't do it because her car is fucked up and she can't drive because she can't afford to fix

her car so she's stuck there she said both our vehicles are, one of them is on jack stands because it needs a part we can't afford and we need new tires on a car that I just paid $500 for so I could have transportation. She lives off the Dollar General. That's the closest place, but it doesn't have fresh produce.

No. So she said, like those Vienna sausages? Yeah. She's eating shit like that. She said, it's basically, if you want anything, you want something to drink, you She said, it's basically, if you want anything, you want something to drink, you want sugar,

you want toilet paper, you want anything that you're out of, you either walk or beg for a ride, and you can only ask for a ride so many times before it becomes a burden to somebody else. These poor people. So I found a, oh, by the way, she says, it's a 45-minute walk to the store, and it's treacherous, treacherous, she said. So there's semis, peanut wagons, and the way, she says it's a 45-minute walk to the store, and it's treacherous. It's treacherous, she said.

So there's semis, peanut wagons, and tractors, and all kinds of different vehicles that people don't pay attention, so it's not safe to walk anyway. What the hell is a peanut wagon? I think a fucking wagon full of peanuts. That's peanut farming country. Like, what? Georgia, southern Georgia's female peanut farming country. Yeah, but what does that wagon look like?

Is it a tractor with a flatbed? I don't know what the shit, how you transport peanuts. I'm not positive about that. Apparently, it's a specific vehicle. I think it's full of peanuts. No matter what the vehicle is, I think anything that's full of peanuts is going to be the place, right? So there's all these cars traveling down this road, and you've got to walk in the road?

Yeah, like on the side of the road, like in the hope for a shoulder. My God. It's bad. She's done it. That's how she. Oh, yeah. She knows. She's had to.

Yeah. She's had to. So it's not so safe. I found one review of this place. It's a good one, too. It's four star review. They have one complaint and it's very specific as usual. Very specific.

Quote, Greenwood is a small rural area. There is plenty of trees, animalswood is a small rural area. There is plenty of trees, animals, and helpful people there. Okay. My only concern is that it is a mostly Baptist community who shun the thought of female ministers. Okay. Okay. That's your biggest concern?

You don't have a grocery store. There's a lady with a tree on her house. And no water. And you're concerned about the lack of, believe me, the Baptistist church that's the least of your concerns with them trust me so uh people in this town doomed souls here 797 of people we that apparently nobody even cares that they're alive no and it's and it's gone up since 1990 68 well it had 474 people in 1990. More males than females, which is strange. All these under 1,000 shit gets real weird, so we'll buzz their numbers pretty quick. A lot of 0 to 14-year-old kids and a lot of 25 to 44-year-old people. Not much else.

There's half the elderly as normal. I think now probably because they left after the hurricane. Literally, they had to leave to be cared for because their houses were destroyed uh married it's about normal 50 50 a lot of the stats are pretty normal uh except for uh there is single with children is twice as much as normal really so yeah people just spitting out kids and then not getting married or getting a divorce yeah single kids ruined it i can see it single no children though is only three percent oh so it's like everyone there is having a fucking kid immediately uh pop a race of this town 58.7 white uh 30.1 black uh 0.0 asian no not an asian to be

found uh 8.4 hispanic which in Florida is pretty goddamn low. 48% of the people here are religious. And of those, 25% of the population is Baptist. No female ministers, but none. As we know, though, Baptists are the Catholics of the South. That's obvious. 0.0% Jewish. They're like, I don't think so.

Not that Florida. They're like, that's no, no. Wrong Florida. We're more toward Miami down in that. Fort Lauderdale's not bad. West Palm is nice. We're not going there. We like houses without trees on them. There are multiple Floridas, if you

don't know Florida. There is like fancy Florida, and then the rest of Florida is where the south it's like a southern prison camp basically it's it's the south Australia it seems like I'm not sure it is but it seems like everybody's just like you can either go to jail yeah for 50 years yeah or you're banished to Florida they're like well I guess I'll take Florida and then they just release them into it there you go So that's what's going on there. Welcome to Orlando. Hey, have fun. Jackson County, Florida here.

The last election, 30% Democrat, 67% Republican. A little conservative around here. And unemployment rate here is a little bit higher than the national average, but still pretty low. We'll find out in a couple months what it actually is. But for right now, that's what it's holding at. Median household income here, almost $58,000 in the rest of the country. Here it is $45,708. So a little bit low.

Almost 60% of the people make between $20,000 and $50,000. Everybody makes that here pretty much. Oh, you know what? $20,000 being the low there is not positive no that's not great that's a that's a struggle yeah that's your walk into the dollar general dodging peanut wagons i heard 50 000 in a tiny ass town yeah so bad 250 very few people make over 150 000 in this area here a lot of jobs in the social services and that it's like twice as many as normal in health care and social services i'm not sure if that is reflective of the hurricane cleanup effort or not.

Also, not positive because that's still going on. Cost of living here, 100 being regular average par. Here it is 77. So not too bad. But the housing's low. Housing here is at 39 out of 100. Median home cost 91,000 bucks. Not too shabby.

So I found some bargains for us here. And if we've convinced you, damn it, that you need to go down and, I don't know, open a grocery store, we have for you the Greenwood, Florida Real Estate Report. Your average two-bedroom rental here goes for about $694. That's high. It's just still crap. Yeah. I found a three-bedroom, two-bath, 1,487 square foot.

No frills. Yeah. Not updated. Made a straw. Four micro-counters. No driveway. Just grass. Literally worn-out grass.

Two ruts in it. Literally. Oh, my God. The last people made it a circle. Nice. $74,900 for that. For 1,500 square feet. I found 35.8 acres of land.

Yeah. $79,900. That is a deal. It's shit land, but still, it's a lot of land. I found 5 acres for $15,000. Unbelievable. It's like land, but still, it's a lot of land. Holy shit. I found five acres for 15 grand. Unbelievable. It's like a used car. You can have five acres of land down there.

Oh, my God. I can put that on a credit card. It's amazing. I want it. Let's go buy some land, Jimmy. I found a three-bedroom. I can't pay it back. No, I can't pay it now.

That's the problem. A three-bedroom, two-bath, 2,400-square-foot place. It's nice, updated. It has a bar and all that shit uh 22 acres it sits upon 325 000 on 22 acres on 22 acres with a 2400 square foot house with a barn and a garage and all sorts of shit and this is where i'm gonna retire james dude it's it's insane uh there's not much to do is the only problem where you hopefully won't have. Hopefully I'm retired. You're retired to the point where you're like, I can't move.

That's that kind of retired. Things to do here. Okay. Look at old houses. Sure. Because there's a lot of old houses. Try not to think about how mean people were to black people inside them, I guess, while you were looking at them. Oh, that's a nice house.

I hope not too many black people were fucking tormented in there. Yeah. You can make fun of two egg. I guess that's something's something to do right because i found the history of two egg and why it's called that what is that basically the way it goes a traveling salesman was in the store and in this town one day when some children went in to get shit for their mother but all they had for payment was a pair of eggs their mother said here, here's a couple eggs. Take this shit to the store and try to get like goods for them. And your cute fucking cherub faces. Get down there.

Barter some eggs. So that's the kind of tower we're talking about. Otherwise I gotta go suck dicks. An egg barter in town. That's a big chasm. Yeah. Either they'll take eggs from my kids

or I'm sucking dick. One or the other. There's no in between. There's no, you know's no you know i'll go do an honest day's work i'll do it's either taking the eggs or line everybody up down at the dock boys when when's the fleet coming in so uh yeah so the uh guy behind the counter was bitching about it like jesus christ people bringing him fucking eggs. And he said that he was living in nothing but a two egg town.

That's what the guy behind the counter said. There's nothing but a two egg town. Okay. Okay. So the salesman later on who was there and overheard this needed to send something to the grocery. He didn't remember the name of the store. So he just addressed it to the two egg store there and figured they would know what that

was. And so apparently this showed up. It showed up. Yeah. Wow. So he just addressed it to the two egg store there and figured they would know what that was. And so apparently this. And it showed up. It showed up. Yeah. Wow. So there's that.

What a ridiculous way to name a town. It's ridiculous. And then it's caused other names. There's a couple of legends here in this town as well. Things to do. One has to do with a female ghost who hangs around the bellamy bridge the legend says that her bridal gown caught fire on her wedding day and she died from the burns so uh her ghost still wanders the area looking for the husband that never happened that's the legend of this poor burning bride uh and then another legend involves sightings of jesus christ yeah this is

something i couldn't make up. Like you would hear about this town. You go, I bet they have some stupid legend about us, like a miniature Bigfoot. And they do. Stop it. They have a small Bigfoot. That's not a big monster. It's a medium foot.

Right. Small kind of Bigfoot looking monster. Several people claim to have seen it walking and running in the swamps and and woods on two legs the locals know what they call it what the two egg stump jumper oh my god the two eggs y'all seen the two eggs don't jumper i see him he was out just a walking jumping two leg stump jumper yeah this is a wow this is why we do the town stuff because you need to know if i just gave you a murder and didn't give you this you wouldn't fucking know how you could not understand how we got there now you have context of where we are that's important think about that

uh crime rate in this town uh property crime is slightly high it's about 10 above the average pretty close and then violent crime murder rape, rape, robbery, and assault. The Mount Rushmore of crime is right at the national average. So the crime rate's not that bad here, which is good. That said, we need to talk about a murder. I would love it. Let's do

this. Let's talk about the revenge of the two-egg jump... Stumpjumper. Jesus. I understand that anybody who's paid attention to the media would have to come to the conclusion that I killed my wife. Hi, my name is Zach Stewart-Pontier.

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did he see clothes on him i didn't did you i didn't either oh damn by the way i saved this surprise for right now before the murder. At the end of the murder, we have a prisoner dating game for you guys. Yay. Prisoner. I feel like everybody's trapped. You need a prisoner dating game. There's so much Corona content.

There's so much. So prisoner dating game. Let's get into that. A little fun for you. Some home shopping. Yeah. Let's talk about this murder here. Talk about a couple here.

This couple, they are Greenwood through and through here. They were Douglas and Georgia Kennedy. Talk about C-A-N-N-A-D-Y, Kennedy. Doug and Georgia Kennedy. Georgia is her name. I like that. That's nice. Doug is born in 1942.

George is, I think, 44. So when we catch up with them it'll be about 1989 so we're talking you know we're talking people in their mid 40s 47 to 45 to 47 because i think she's 45 now uh they were married and they end up having two children over the years in greenwood i don't know why you'd want to bring anybody else into this environment but uh very reckless maybe if we make more people right then we can we can just hem in the two-way stump jumper that way because i see it's me you on one side me on the other then he just runs out in between us yeah if we get another two and we put them make a box around them see like they used to do with barry sanders when he would run with the football see now that's a i feel like we could do it we could catch him and we all get who take steps closer together the box gets smaller that's

how it works by the way anyone uh that brings us definitive proof of the two egg stump jumper we will give you twenty dollars it's not really worth i will give you a lot more twenty dollars and tickets to any of our shows in Florida that you might want to see. How's that? I will fly to you and spend the afternoon. Oh, we will. Yeah. We'll go there to give you your $20.

I'm not going to Venmo you it. We're going to go there and hand you a $20 bill and look into your fucking beady eyes. And even the one that wanders off, we're going to look into that one too. Hey, it's over there. That's why the two of us are coming. You stand in front of one eye, I'll stand in front of the other aisle stand in front of the other make sure we got to box them in like barry sanders when we used to run with the football see oh god so that's how this works so yeah they're married for a long time and they they uh in 1989 they have two children uh an 18 year

old daughter named angela and yeah and a 15-year-old son named Chris. Got it. Those are their two kids. There seems like a nice family here, except when you kind of hear about their environment, they live in a double-wide trailer behind the gas station. Oh, boy. So that's what you dream about as a child. Location, location, location. It's right there. It's behind the gas station. boy so that's what you dream about as a child location location location it's right there it's behind the gas to hey you know what i ain't got dodging no peanut wagons

when i'm walking they said it was a convenience store walking they ain't playing they ain't playing damn it's damn convenient so it's a gas station who knows what they have inside of it i don't know if it's stocked like penders or anything i mean jesus christ here jimmy come on now your carburetor stock's low yeah let's go so kennedy runs doug runs the gas station this is his gas station okay doug's gas station and they also own a bar nearby as well this is when there was a bar and a gas station yeah he's like god think about that. He's the local business empresario. He lives in a double-wide behind the gas station. That's making it in this town. Think about that for one moment.

I don't want to be a businessman. I need someone to look up to. Oh, you can go see Doug. He lives in the double-wide behind the gas station. See if he'll give you some words of inspiration. What the hell does he know? He's got two business. He's got two of them. Two business business i don't know if that's plural

i already got an s on there i got an s i ain't gonna mess with it ain't no reason to put my two cents into the damn thing i'll just say business you know what i'm saying so he owns a bar also now so he's a gas station bar owner, which is strange. They're not connected, like I said. They're in separate places. So in the spring of 1989, Doug Kennedy, his bar, he's got his bar that he's running. And one night, a guy is there who gets into a fight. Two men get into a fight in front of the bar outside, which sounds like it would really be.

This is like the bar in Roadhouse, I picture. There's a chicken wire up over the stage where the band plays, and there's just beer bottles exploding against it every five seconds. Like fireworks. Every time someone's done with a beer bottle, they just hurl it at the stage as hard as they can.

No need to recycle this shit. We throw peanut shells on the floor here. Beer bottles, too. Up against the cage no you got to make them that guitar player dodge glass he thinks he's hot shit i've seen him i've seen him when it's just strutting around talking to all the bartenders he thinks he's something else play zz top motherfucker let's see you got free bird asshole i ain't heard it yet. Simple man. Play it. So, yeah, that's the kind of environment I'm feeling like this is, probably.

So there's a man named Steve Russ, and he's the guy, one of the participants in the fight. Steve Russ and Doug Kennedy know each other as well, as I feel like probably most people probably know each other in this town everybody wants to know doug too he's successful as fuck and if you need gas or drink at all you know doug that's the thing so i mean doug's a known fucking guy so everyone knows doug and steve and russ know each other and probably went to school together and who knows so well the little school they i'm sure went to it's realistic here. This is the panhandle of Florida. And the behavior in this could only be described as panhandle. It's the only way to describe it.

So he gets into a fight, Steve Russ, and Doug comes out to break up the fight as a bar owner. He's also the bouncer. He's also the bouncer. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's tough out in a bar. Now, there's several ways to break up a fight. I used to be a bouncer. You got a tough phone in a bar.

Now, there's several ways to break up a fight. I used to be a bouncer. You start by yelling, usually, because sometimes people realize that they're being caught and they'll stop. Sometimes you get that. Others are watching. Others are watching, things of that. Then you try to get the participants and pull them apart, or possibly, if there's no punches being thrown, maybe get in the middle and pry them apart.

There's a lot of ways to break up a fight. This is a different way. This is some Old West shit. This this is a shotgun fire into the air he comes out firing his pistol into the air boom boom boom yes break it up we didn't even have guns which is nobody's got a gun absolutely bonkers if there's a fight going on imagine every bar fight that happened was broken up with gunfire that's a man that holy shit pistol was like can't wait for the first goddamn fight first i feel like he's like i gotta clean it more now i feel like he has to clean this gun every three days it's just constant how many i gotta go buy more goddamn ammunition now you

goddamn assholes fighting in front of my bar i I bet he loved it. Three boxes a week. Did he fire it outdoors, just willy-nilly into the air? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Jesus Christ. He just walked outside, saw them fight, and started bucking shots off into the air. You fucking idiot. Probably into a peanut farm or somewhere like that.

This is rural panhandle. If it does come down, it's probably not going to happen. What an asshole. Even if it hits somebody, they won't notice that much. It will lower their IQ three, four points. Other than that, it's probably not what an asshole even if it hits somebody they won't notice that much lower their iq three four points other than that it's fine so uh yeah he's firing you can't just buck shots off to stop a fight this is not this isn't the old west i wish we could this is 1989 not 1889 i sure goddamn wish we could this is fucking Al Swearengen coming down from his office in Deadwood. Also, a pistol is crazy to fire into the air.

Oh. Like a shotgun, that's pellets that just- They're going to disperse. They go in different areas. I guess. I imagine they'll slow down a bit. I don't know. He probably had a.44.

Right. Just blasted. Hand cannon into the air. Huge rounds. Didn't give a shit. Yeah. So, Russ, apparently, was placed in what they call i don't know what this is community control that sounds like jail that jail without a jail it sounds like we ain't

got a jail yeah but we have this cage yeah that we keep like a we call it community control we once called a stray ostrich just a running through it was weird we did like where the hell that come from so we just put him in there. He became kind of like a mascot. Died a couple years ago. Now we just use it for just ruffians, people cutting up in town. We just stick them on in there for a while. It's a jail for everybody and everything.

So we call it community. It's community control. If another ostrich comes, we're going to put them right in there with Russ. Now, don't get me wrong. We're going to put them in there. They're now don't get me wrong we're gonna put him in there they're gonna have to get along i don't know why don't you call this jail because everything you can't jail a tiger they can't jail it but you can community control it you can control it inside the community in this cage with you come on in here so uh he's so he's placed steve russ is placed uh on community control for the incident and he filed a complaint against doug for shooting the gun at what he said at him

because apparently it was sort of in the air but not straight up in the air it was like i'm gonna shoot in your direction so maybe you can hear go by you know you know what i'm saying it was a it's not the wisest of choices i would say legit loose cannon oh doug is a loose cannon this is just the beginning of loose cannonry for doug he might as well it shouldn't his name shouldn't be doug kennedy it should be called doug loose kennedy it's his nickname. Doug Loose Kennedy. That's what we call him from now on. So a little while goes by, and Steve Russ ends up dropping the complaint against Doug. Probably because he wanted to go back to the bar and drink.

It's like, fuck, there's no other box. That's the only one. Shit. You know what, Doug? I was wrong. I was wrong. I shouldn't have been fighting on out in front of your place. And now I know that.

You were within your legal rights. know that that's fine now on sunday july 23rd 1989 doug and georgia and chris and was it angela is the other one yes angela the 18 year old uh they all went over to a friend's house for dinner yeah okay uh at some point during the evening doug fucking passed out okay just he's out cold i don't know he must have been doug by the way uh as if i needed to tell you this he loves the booze bit of an alcoholic doug he digs it doug is drinking most of the time right and i feel like that's why he bought the bar just as he's like well just cheaper and then he realized that those sometimes you can't sell but you know what's always open for booze? The gas station.

The gas station. I'll just bring it on in there. After hours, you know how it is. I sell booze. It's always open. Ammunition. Yeah. Gotta catch it, though.

I'll sell it by the box now. So, yeah, they go over to a friend's house they eat dinner and then doug passes out at the house so jesus christ so his family his family leaves so they just leave him at the friend's house he's passed out that's what i mean that's what i mean he must be drunk i passed out because otherwise you just shake him a little hey doug oh yeah sorry oh my bad if you're sober you just wake up and go yeah let's go yeah but if you're shithoused and you've been drinking since like 8 a.m you're out cold and it's a sunday in july who knows what he was doing anticipating pre-season football you know how it is two months in advance you know how you get yeah so he uh he passes out so about 9 a.m uh he wakes up comes to and says where's my wife right and

they were like i don't know stupid you fucking passed out she probably left it's monday yeah so no one knew where she was like i don't know she once she leaves here we're not positive where she goes yeah we figured you might know that oh wait you're drunk all night watching your chest go up and down to make sure you were still alive. I mean, we were hoping you weren't, but you were here. So he says, where's my wife? And no one knows where it was. So at this point, where she was, I can't find it.

Sorry. What are you looking for? Sorry, Georgia. Apologies. Maybe it's down at the Penders. I don't know. Find out. They got everything. It said if you can't find it anywhere else it's down at the Penders. I don't know. Find out. They got everything.

It said if you can't find it anywhere else, it'll be at Penders. So maybe your wife is there. I don't know. Can't find her nowhere else. It's where I'd go. So no one knew where she was. At this point, he was passed out all evening to the point they ate dinner and then he passed out.

So he's been out for a couple hours. He's still too drunk to drive. Awesome. That's how drunk he was. That's my guy. When he passed out so he's been out for a couple hours he's still too drunk to drive awesome that's how drunk he was that's my guy he passed out so when they showed up for dinner think about that yeah they walk you know it's the kids how you do and then him stumbling through the fucking door you know if you bump into a trailer door and the whole thing shakes right i feel like that's what happened to the doorway they're like oh shit he's gonna take the screen door off you know one of those guys so he's too drunk to drive even after being passed out for hours awesome and too drunk in his mind yeah is drunker than we're not talking oh i think i'm probably legally over the limit

right he's like i can't walk real well so i shouldn't drive that's his look because he'll drive otherwise this guy he doesn't give a fuck uh it's 1989 too yeah less frowned upon rural towns 1989 people would just drive with a police beer between their legs all the time get me another boy it's in the trunk yeah well some states and i think just until recently it was it's not an open container isn't illegal right it's you just have to be not drunk right it's like well you can drink beer just don't be hammered on it you know it's okay sure because i know like for a long time louisiana had like drive-through like where not like liquor stores where you could buy like a bottle of liquor but like bars where you could drive through and get like a fucking margarita unbelievable handed to you out the window while you're driving that sounds awesome that's what i mean that's how they used

to roll so it wasn't real frowned upon in the South. Drive-thru cheers? Basically, yeah. That's what they have down there, those drive-thru whatever fucking bars. That's awesome. I don't know if they still have them. That was like in the 80s. I mean, it's dangerous, but it's awesome.

It's excessively dangerous. We either all have to be sober or all have to be drunk while we're driving. That's the thing. So if we're all drunk, we'll get less hurt. But if we're all sober, we'll get in less accidents accidents but if just a few of us are drunk it's just gonna fuck everything up for everybody it's a mess i just wish that that more people were responsible and knew i mean i'm not gonna argue that it's not dangerous because it's obviously dangerous no it's yeah but it is i used to do it a lot and it was a bad decision yeah yeah yeah not a good

decision out in the desert like out in the woods, so much fun. Yeah, well, that's almost like a... Less people in danger. I was going to say, you're only going to hurt yourself out there, so that's, I guess, fine. It was so much fun. Hurt yourself is great. I used to do it all the time. You just don't want to hurt anybody else.

You want to wrap your, you know, fall off a mountain on your car, that's fine. Wrap your car around a goddamn tree. Whatever. You want a cactus? Knock yourself out. Go nuts. Don't hurt anyone else. So, yeah, Kennedy is, he's angry, too, that he can't fly.

How dare she leave me here? They're like, well, we tried to wake you up. This bitch. We're waking up, and he's like, I don't care. Yeah. When I pass out somewhere, you wait for me, damn it. So he's too drunk to drive so he calls his daughter to come pick him up and uh not pick him up and take him home yeah pick him up and take

him looking for my wife we're going to find ma we're looking for mom boy where is georgia so uh angela comes and picks uh him up they go all over town looking for his wife. They go over to different towns that basically just for like two hours they drive around. Every bar, every place where she might be. Let's drive by her friend's house, see if she's there. I'm finding Georgia. So looking for Georgia. No cell phones obviously in 1989.

So they go there. They never find her. They can't find her. She's gone. Disappears. So Doug calls the sheriff's office and reports are missing. Damn it. Where's my goddamn wife? Right. So the next morning, the next morning, he's calling around trying to find his wife still.

And Gerald Boisvert, a guy named Gerald Boisvert. He tells Doug that he had been with Georgia the night before and hanging out, and that he let Georgia out of his car at a truck stop. Why did you talk about that, man? I dropped her off at a truck stop because now she's, well, the cops are asking about her now. So now it's like, well, whatever we're doing, we've still got to talk about it. So he said, I was with her, and I let her out at a truck stop, and uh that's it so they're like well let's let's keep an eye on old gerald that sounds like a we've heard that story before it's a good lead the old i dropped her off at a truck stop lead yeah i saw her we was together he was together i left her somewhere nobody saw it yeah

nobody what was the one story we did where the guy just insisted that somebody left with a lady trucker yeah my wife she just left with a lady trucker? Yeah. My wife, she just left with a lady trucker, and that was that. I don't know what happened. She's clearly out there just being a lesbian now. She just must have flipped on me like that, and now she's gone. I just gave up, and I'm looking for a new girl.

If I'm the police here, I'm going down to Pender's and getting some two-egg stump thumper. Jumper. Stump jumper. Two-egg stump jumper. Getting some of that bait and trying to find him because he clearly did this. Oh, that's the thing. In Florida, it could be anybody. It could be a serial killer.

It could be the stump jumper. You never fucking know. It could be just some dude wandering around in his underwear and a gas mask. Might be a peanut truck in a peanut wagon. You never know what could happen to these people. So also, this is a little more to the gerald boys for thing than we when we know of before uh one of the officers a police officer he uh said a month before this incident uh happened in july a month before he had had to go over to gerald

boys for its resident boys of its residents to remove doug kennedy at the time uh boysford had called the cops saying kennedy wouldn't get out of his house uh the reason why he wouldn't get out of his house doug because doug was extremely upset that his wife was over there okay so yeah there's a there's a there's a beef here with these two she keeps going there and apparently at that point she georgia kennedy was scared to go home and uh and that's that's how it worked at the time so they had to remove uh doug from the house and and then angela the daughter had to come pick him up or he was going to jail basically come get your dad or i'm taking him to community control right i'm taking him to the old ostrich cage we just found a gator so you may want to get him quick

that's exactly uh so georgia caddy was not injured or anything like that she didn't report anything had been gone on gerald boysford didn't do anything to her husband didn't do anything to her and she was fine um so now after this the uh uh after this time goes on a little bit and uh the in the next month, Boisvert and Doug are still not getting along. Basically, Doug, from him finding his wife at the house, he is accusing Gerald of raping her. Now, she's not accusing Gerald of raping her. But he is. He's going around town saying, Gerald, rape my wife.

And she's saying, no. Do they have a sexual relationship? Oh, yeah. Oh no you know they have a sexual relationship oh yeah oh yeah they have a sexual relationship right so he insists and he insists to the point of telling people this and going to the police at one point and saying this even though she's not reporting this it's it's real it's the strangest case of of like like ego narcissist like weird like it's very strange like my wife couldn't have cheated on me she had to have been raped okay i mean that's the only way that this would have happened where she's like no you're just a drunken asshole who passes out of people's houses yeah two of them two business damn it two business so uh yeah apparently they after this they doug and gerald their relationship

fractured further obviously yeah it would yeah one's accusing him with the other of raping his wife and there's fights and you know all this just had a sexual relationship with his wife so that's the other thing you don't respect you're not gonna like that guy you're not gonna hang out with him and a little while later a little time goes by, and somewhere in town, Doug beats the shit out of Gerald somewhere. So he catches that he's talking about him. He's finding him, beating him up. There's a lot going on here. Jesus Christ.

So you don't fuck a married man's wife? That's the thing here. So this night, though, of her being missing and all that sort of thing she doesn't come back until noon the next day and so uh yeah she's been gone for a while all night all night and then all night half the day and like i said doug has called the cops doug has called uh gerald yeah gerald said i was with her. Yeah, I was knocking the bottom of that. But then afterwards, I just dropped her off at the truck stop. After Doug had a hell of a snooze.

Yeah, that's how it works there. So someone finally drops Georgia off at home at noon. Somebody else drops her off. She just wanders in the house. And she tells Doug the same story that Gerald said. She said that she was with Gerald and then Gerald dropped her off at a truck stop and then she left the truck stop with another woman,

presumably a lady trucker. That's all I can think. Oh, yeah. So, God, the lady trucker rears her head again. I love it. And Georgia is having the time of her life. Yeah, she's out over here she's banging gerald she's hanging out with lady truckers you know when you fell asleep i went and just

fucked everybody i met everybody gerald lady trucker sheriff the two just two egg stump jumper i fucked them all damn it i fucked the ghost bride i scissored the ghost bride that's right you guys right doug it's because you don't pay attention to me i gotta go out and scissored the ghost bride that's right you guys right doug it's because you don't pay attention to me i gotta go out and scissor ghost bride her goddamn veil on fire i did it good though i did it metaphorically metaphorically lit it on fire she was like into that it was good stuff good stuff so what does she tell him now they tell you they say it you don't believe it but i hear there ain't no pussy like ghost pussy and i'm like that sound crass you know what i'm saying i'm like i don't

believe that that's just some crass son of a bitch out there but then you hear and you're like you know what it's kind of probably true it's gonna be true now uh so over the next few days doug i don't know why it took him days to notice this shit. But over the next few days, he noticed scratches on George's shoulders. I don't know why it took him a few days to notice this, but also that she didn't want to have sex with him at all, which the two egg stump jumper, two egg stump jumper. It's still coming out. It's still reverberating through my system. Not only that, i don't know maybe because you're a drunk right alcoholic you're a fucking monster fires guns

into the air and fucking calls the cops to find your wife when she's you know she's just banging gerald doug i'll be honest with you your wife's terrified of you that's where i think we're going with this probably and he's like why won't she have sex with me? She says he says that she said she won't have sex with her with him because she's, quote, hurting. Oh, just hurting. I don't know what that means. I don't know if down there in general or heart in the heart. Right.

We don't know. This is a metaphorical hurt. Is this a legendary hurt like the hurt of the stump jumper? Is this like a, what are we doing here? Is that her headache excuse? Is that what you're saying, Doug? I'm just hurting. I hurt right up in between the ears and the forehead, right behind my eyes and nose.

And in my front butt. I'm hurting. Both of them. All them areas, all hurt. So she's hurting. Yeah. Okay. She's hurting. She doesn't want to have sex with him, which don't blame her at all it doesn't sound pleasurable it does not sound like it's going to

be fun or good or about you at all put it that way doesn't sound like it's anything for georgia no i feel nothing at all i feel like if she if doug looked away for a minute and he replaced her with like she replaced herself with a blow-up doll he would never know the difference he'd just be humping away at it he wouldn't care yeah he's just need something to hump on because he's fucking crazy just clear out whatever wildlife is in the community control center yeah and just throw that on his lap he wouldn't have any idea it's warm it's warm it's good ostrich you know what these ostrich feathers tickle my balls it's not bad it's quite underrated you know what i hope i hope they put that little two-egg jump stomp and some bitch in here because i'm gonna fuck it i don't know what it is gender or what i'm gonna find out what it's inside it's got a hole somewhere and i'm gonna find it

use it to my advantage boy i'll tell you what i don't know why him fucking i don't know uh whatever it is forcing the stump jumper to toss a salad really makes me fucking really amuses me for some reason i don't know why i picture just a little furry guy yeah like et but covered in fur yeah very short arms very short arms that's the thing totally so now he puts this uh a couple of scratches on her shoulder and her hurting and obviously not wanting to have sex with him clearly there's an issue he puts this all together as gerald must have raped his wife the other night yeah i raped her again good lord raped her good this time though really messed her up for a while um yeah got her wife the other night. Yeah, raped her again. Good Lord. Raped her good this time, though. Really messed her up for a while. Yeah, got her good the other night when she was out.

So it took him a few days to put it together, put the puzzle together. He's not the brightest guy in the world, but he eventually, he puts it together, and he said, I bet that damn Gerald Boyce for rape my wife. I know he did. So he grabs Georgia, puts her in the car, and takes her.

Where is she going, Jimmy? To his house. Nope. Sheriff's department. We're going to the sheriff. Oh, my God. Okay. What's he going to say?

Sheriff, will you look at this? Does this look raped? Look at her. See them scratches? Now, she said she wasn't raped, but I don't believe her. Take them off. Does it look raped, sir? Literally, and we're not laughing at rape at all here.

We're laughing at an idiot who insists that someone must have been raped just because they don't want to have sex with him. That's the only possible other thing that could be. Not I'm unattractive and a monster. Not that. I'm unattractive physically and mentally. Yeah, repulsive and frightening. That's not, no, it can't be that.

It must be someone else did this. So he was taking her down there to file a complaint down at the sheriff's office. They get there at the police station. And generally, if you go to a police station and you go with someone for moral support who's filing a report, they want to talk to the person who the thing happened to yeah if you got victim yeah if someone came up and beat you up or something and i went with you to help you in something i wouldn't dominate the conversation i'd let you tell the story since it's you right uh doug on the other hand or if if uh you're you're reporting it they still don't want to talk to you.

You know what I mean? Even if you call the police and I'm watching somebody get beat up right now. Did you see anything? No. We'll get to you in a second. We'll go talk to those victims. Unless you saw something, we don't give a shit what you fucking have to say. You're just annoying and interfering.

Thank you for interfering. So, yeah, he, Jesus Christ, so so he goes down there he's the one dominating the conversation like they'll be like okay georgia yeah so you were with you were you're with mr boysford last night raped that's right and literally doug will just jump in he raped her and dropped her off at the truck stop this is the second time he did it look at her shoulder she scratched up and they're like um so georgia yeah back to uh where'd you go to high school like they're like we're not there yet and uh so he's doing this to the point where the officer finally says you have to leave the room you can't be in here anymore we

can't even talk to this person because you're answering questions that you weren't present for so can't get any more hearsay he didn't even hear it's just say right he's just saying shit there's no just made up say he's just talking shit believe it's called talking shit officially in court your honor objection talking shit sustained sustained that is you could refrain from the shit talking we would really that is a soom say he doesn't even know he has no fucking idea so uh after uh after some time alone in there with just georgia and the officer they emerged from the office with no charges for gerald because she says no i didn't he didn't fucking rape me i'm having a consensual relationship with gerald that my husband can't fathom for some reason you know this remember uh when the cop had to pull doug out of the house because i was over it's all been going on right so this is a thing so uh they just they leave the

office without pressing any charges nothing happens so uh also georgia you gotta leave georgia's gotta get the hell away from this guy i get that you have two kids and i get that you've been together a long time and you know you get you get half the business the gas station turns into one business which one do you want which one it's a double wide you can split it down the middle you each get a single wide i don't care please georgia get the hell away from this fucking relationship man it's not great so the the over the next two months georgia uh, Georgia is very depressed, and she's having a lot of personal problems just with her moods. Sure. And I don't blame her.

It's been a rough few months, and her husband is a severe alcoholic, like a blackout alcoholic who will burst into the other guy's house and have to be dragged out by cops. And as we said, he's a loose cannon. This guy is capable of anything and if you're his wife and he's mad at you you got to be worried about that shit and i assume too after this whole thing i bet you anything doug put her on some kind of little lockdown here yeah you're not going out and partying and doing all this shit and blah blah blah and so she's just getting very depressed uh by the whole situation and they still got both kids living at home. Both kids living at home, 18 and 15.

One's in the prime of his teens figuring out who he is. The kids, yeah, 18 and 15, they know exactly what's going on. It's not like, I think mom and dad are fighting and it's weird. They're like, oh yeah, mom did this and dad's pissed, or dad did this and mom's pissed. They know what's going on at that age. So George is so despondent that she tells several people over the summer of 1989 that she wished she was dead. She just says she wished she was dead. You know, she just can't take it anymore.

She hates her life. She's very sad. And now, Jesus Christ, Doug is obsessed, obsessed with Gerald Boyce for obsessed with him. And not only that, he's obsessed with him and other men that he also believes, believes have raped his wife. He thinks every guy in town is raped as well. No one's raped his wife. Has nobody ever had consensual sex in this guy's eyes?

In his mind? No. Everybody has. And it's literally he's got like a list of people who are like, this guy's eyes in his mind no everybody has and it's literally he's got like a list of people who are like this guy's great my wife this guy right my wife she doesn't say any of that it's not not according to her this is according to his own thoughts so uh yeah he uh he he does that uh he at one point uh lures Boyce Furt over to his house with, you know, we're going to squash this and blah, blah, blah. Just to, when he gets out of his car, to jump out from behind something and beat the shit out of him again.

Ha, gotcha. So, that's what Doug is doing. He hides and waits for Boyce Furt and then jumps out and beats the shit out of him in his yard and his own house, too. This is not even like meet me in a parking lot. He lured him to his house to beat him up, which is just a weird thing to do. How many God damn it's did Gerald say? God damn it again.

God damn it. Some bitch. Doug, stop. Doug, God damn it. Jesus Christ. So obviously this is an issue clearly um you can't be just luring people he's on the edge doug he's a loose cannon so so on one particular day oh boy uh doug doug starts drinking as is normal for him but But on this particular day, he thinks he's drunk anywhere.

He said at least 14 beers, but possibly as many as 26. Oh, boy. So somewhere between 14 and 26 beers. That's a lot. That's a lot of beer. I don't care who you are. There's a 12-beer disparagement between those. Yeah, that's how drunk he was anyway.

One or two 12-packs. Yeah, I'm going gonna go with two if you don't remember to go with the higher number give or take on a case of beer the less you remember the higher number i'm gonna probably go with put it that way so it's yeah he he drinks a shitload of beer and uh he says that he uh he is he is uh talking to his wife and they're in the living room and she's depressed that day and he believes that she's depressed because she's sad because gerald boisford raped her and that's what she's saying he's saying in the house this is all gerald's fault you feel like this and she's like no and he's like yes it is this is fucking nuts so he at this point he gets so mad he went and he got his 38 caliber

pistol yeah from a hiding place in his trailer and he starts to clean it yeah it's his it's his it's his peacemaker yeah it's his peacemaker he's got to clean it he's been firing that thing off like crazy so uh he's cleaning his gun now he says that his wife asked to uh his wife asked that he sit next to her on the living room couch and talk to him and talk to her maybe to calm him down whatever because he's when a guy's like it's that son of a bitch that raped you i'm gonna get my gun and starts cleaning it you want to calm that person down probably like let's let's chill out before you're getting your you're hiding guns let's calm here we'll chill so uh he you know she says to him according to him uh georgia tells him to sit down and he says here that uh as he started to get up to go

over to the couch he had the gun in his hand and he was cleaning oh boy and he said he tripped or his ankle gave out from under him one of the two happened when you're on about 26 years 26 years who knows and he said the way that happened he fell and the gun fired as he fell hitting his wife in the chest hitting georgia in the chest okay uh there uh hitting georgia in the chest she is dead like that very quickly must have hit her right in the heart got her good uh awful poor georgia jesus christ if life wasn't fucking bad enough right now now this happened so poor george is hitting the chest with a bullet and she is dead on the living room floor awful like i said god i wish you would have been able to get away from that situation that's

fucking horrible this is how it happens god damn it this is what i mean this is this is what happens when when things like this when you have a cycle like this. So now Christopher is home. The son. The son's there. Oh, he's home. Oh, boy. He says that he was watching a football game on TV. It's July.

What football game? Oh, no, this is September. I'm sorry. There's a football game on. It's a football game on TV, and he said he heard a commotion in another part of the trailer. And he just heard, you know, banging around. And with his parents, though, it's not like out of the question. It's one of those things where when you start to hear argument, you just turn the TV up because you're used to it.

It's one of those deals. So he said that they were, quote, fussing loudly is what he said. Fussing. Yeah. They're fussing. Damn it. 15 year old says that. Yeah.

It's a southern. Yeah. They were fussing on over there on the other side of the trailer. Yeah. teen year old says that yeah this is southern yeah they were fussing on over there on the other side of the trailer yeah and as he he says he passed his parents on the way to the bathroom his mother was sitting on the couch and his father was seated at the dining room table doing something with his gun he said he saw him going to the bathroom he said while he was in the bathroom is when he heard the gunshot it happened over the course of a pee and he said he came out

to find his mother on the floor and holy shit you know obviously christ mom's on the course of a pee and he said he came out to find his mother on the floor and holy shit you know obviously christ mom's on the floor with a fucking bleeding out this is not what i expected so uh chris says that at that point doug turned to him and said hand gun in hand yeah and said quote i had to do it oh then he said she's gone and she's not suffering anymore that's what he said that was it i had to do it now she's gone she's not suffering that's a hell of a step how is that chris is like huh what the fuck are you talking about so he's a little bit freaked out yeah obviously chris is as you one might imagine sober sober and 15 and his mom just got shot in

the chest and his dad's holding a gun saying crazy shit had to do it yeah if you're 15 and your dad's this guy right you know your dad's not a stable guy that's why you're in the room watching football not in your fucking living room watching football you don't want to be around this guy because he's a loose cannon you know it and he's been drinking all day that's the other thing and that's as anyone who's been around older people who uh as a kid that are alcoholics you know right to stay away from people at certain times you know that swing where it goes like you know when it's bad that one or two beers where you're like oh one more of these and there's gonna be a problem then they have it and you're like i gotta go somewhere else one more of these and then you end up like my grandfather who uh my cousin when

he was like maybe 10 yeah uh my grandfather who was a fucking alcoholic oh boy yeah um yeah he drank a lot and uh he was in one of his benders there like a driving gin right scotch scotch let me get on for the road and he was a dick when he was drunk and would be a bad guy so my grandmother would fucking steal his booze so he would always have cheap scotch in case it got thrown out so he had like in his work shed he had like a fucking gallon of plastic bottle scotch and like he had them all over the place in the garage he would have drinks that he would hide so one thanksgiving my cousin had done really nothing he was like 10 who knows some kid thing i mean he didn't burn the house down or anything.

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So, Chris at this point says that Doug now, after he said, I had to do it, had to kill your, which is not what you want to hear. He wanted to hear, oh my God, it went off. It was an accident. I was cleaning it. That's what you want to hear. You don't want to hear, at least she's not suffering.

That's not right. So, at this point, Doug tells his son to get into the truck. Come on. Get in the truck. Where are we going, Dad? Gerald Boisvertz. Why? Well.

He's not going to help? He's not going to help, but fuck while I'm shooting people. Yeah. So on the way, Doug tells his son, I'm going to kill Gerald when we get there, by the way. Mom's already dead. Yeah. So, you know, I'm going to kill Gerald. And literally at a stop sign, would load start loading the gun next keep loading it and you know get the gun all loaded on the way now when they arrive at gerald's house obviously when this guy pulls in the yard if you're gerald

you're taking a step back yeah you should be you have half a fucking brain in your head a anybody's wife you're banging don't probably avoid them because probably he's not gonna be happy with you at any point and then when they invite you to their house for a fight that you didn't know was coming yeah you thought you were coming over for a reconciliation barbecue and this guy jumps out from behind a bush and starts beating the shit out of you like surprise fight invitations are no fun yeah you were Anytime you hear Doug's name, your head's on a swivel. Oh, shit. Where is he?

This dude's after me, man. Fuck that. So they pull into the yard. They pull into the driveway, which I assume is the yard, as I saw from any of the houses in this town. He pulled into the two ruts. He pulled into the ruts. And that one in the real estate report has circular ruts.

It's hilarious, dude. It's so funny. That's why live shows are great the horseshoe driveway it's a circ they made a circular driveway in the yard because they have no driveway the old horseshoe ruts we're making a horseshoe so it's classy right all right yeah if you drag your truck through that front yard a couple of times and get them good and deep it's good and deep yeah this is why live shows are great because you can see this and go holy shit shit. So they pull up. Gerald Boisvert is standing in his front yard with another man and this other man's two children.

Shirtless. So I was just going to say, I would bet $1,000 that he has no shirt on, probably flip flops. It's me. But jeans for some reason. Jeans and flip flops and's me it's you know but but jeans for some reason jeans and flip flops and no shirt i usually rock the cut off sweatpants yeah no shirt when i'm pulling weeds that's my son is my son yesterday got kicked out of virtual class for the corona disease because they're out of the yeah out of school yeah they do like virtual things my son got kicked out of the virtual chat because he was not wearing a shirt that's hilarious that's a wisman kid he put the beer down

he burped and didn't have a shirt on they're like that's enough of wisman today he just scratched his ass and picked his balls can't be having that unbelievable so yeah i assume there's maybe one shirt between the four people staring at. It's probably one of the two kids, I'm assuming. That's the shirt on. It's the girl. Let's be realistic. She's got a shirt.

No one else has a shirt on. No one. Shirt. What do you need a shirt for? Oh, and then I got the news that he got kicked out from it from the email of his teacher. It's her private email because she doesn't have access to the school yeah her email is god's girl dot at g don't give her email out but yeah it's that it's something with that of that formation god's girl 89 but yeah whatever number combination hilarious that's perfect awesome his teacher's fucking religious and

my kid's nipples are in class well not only religious she's claiming to have a pretty tight relationship it's god's girl with the savior himself which is i think at that point is it's a pretty heavy claim you're making i don't know if i trust this i don't think my boy's getting in i think she's a liar jimmy i take my kid out of that class immediately i don't think she's with God like that. I really just don't. I was dying. That's fucking great. I love that kid.

So that's fucking hilarious. So Jesus Christ, he pulls up. And like I said, Boyce Furtz in the yard. And you have to be like, oh, shit. Here we go. And he probably told the guy with him either stay here, stick around, or get your kids the fuck out of here. Hey, let's hide behind these kids yeah hey shit let's throw your son at him and then run what do you say so when they arrived

he stayed i guess gerald this is even more great had like a six-pack in his hand yeah like like the plastic the ring the holding yeah two like he's drinking one, the other guy's drinking one. Finger in each empty hole. And there's four. Four dangling down. Yeah. A Reno 911 Junior special there. One of those.

Mission Saturday. That's what that is. Yeah, it's one of those deals. So that's what he's got in his hand. So when they pull up, Kennedy says to Gerald, hey, what's up, Gerald? And he had to be a little bit like, hi, Doug, how's it going? We doing a surprise fact?

Yeah, do I need to get in stance or what? Right. So apparently at this point, Doug asks, he says, hey, can I get one of them beers? Oh, boy. Can you bring me one of them beers over here? And so Gerald, I think, just feels like, okay, maybe he's not here to beat the shit out of me maybe he actually wants to talk or maybe fine you know like he's not attacking me maybe i feel like he's just

trying to you know placate him because any normally people would be like fuck you i'm not giving you a fucking beer you've accused me a rape you fucking beat me up twice. Once luring me somewhere to fucking do it. This is insane. You've called the cops saying that I raped your wife when I didn't, when I'm just having an affair with her. God damn it. We're not buddies. Please get the hell off of my property.

Thank you. Goodbye. Or whatever. My landlord's property that I pay $125 a month for. I'm not sure how this is working out. Get off my lot fee. Get off my lot. So no, I don't't know and i don't know what gerald's doing i mean tarold he might be fine he might be a fine upstanding guy who just happens to you know dip his wick in the wrong place that might be his favorite thing is just because he knows that they're not coming back

maybe i don't know so anyway he uh he's in the front yard and Doug says, hey, bring me one of them beers. Bring one of them cold beers. He says, I'm sure, even though it's not cold. It's in the Florida sun. Christ, no. Dangling no. It's August. It's August.

September. Yeah, I think it's September. September. It's hot. That beer's warm. It's hot always there. The panhandle cools off in the winter, I believe, but it's still not great. The can is sweating, but it's fucking warm.

But it's warm, yeah. It's so weird. Oh, perfect. That's how I like it. How is this can sweating when it's so warm? It's so weird. Oh, perfect. That's how I like it. How is this can sweating when it's so warm? Dripping on my crotch and it's warm. Yes. This is weird.

So he says, come over here. So Gerald, for some reason, like I said, trusting enough, maybe just wanting to make peace. Maybe he's a nice guy that wants to make peace, Gerald. We have no idea. So Gerald says, okay, and heads over there with a beer for him over to over the truck so as he approaches the truck uh doug uh instead of reaching out for the beer pulls out his gun yeah and fires it hitting canady in the head several times holy shit in front of the kids in front of his kid yeah who is next to him in the car i mean his his kid is a foot away from him in the cab of the truck and he's fucking bucking shots there's two other kids oh my god in the

yard in the direction he's firing him by the way along with another innocent bystander who has nothing to do with him and this guy's just bucking shots off willy-nilly after at least 14 beers this is horrific so uh yeah he fires him uh hits him in the head several times must have been a good shot and then after that gets out of the truck after uh you know he falls down there gerald falls down doug gets out of the truck fucking reloads his gun up oh my word for what i'm not finished he's gonna shoot him again several times in the head so far he's this guy is gerald has had his his day the gun's empty and the dude's dead. Oh, yeah.

He emptied his.38 on him, and then he loads it back up again, stands over him, and shoots him again a couple more times just to make sure, pumps a couple more into him. Overall, Boyceford was shot seven times mostly in the head with a.38. Yeah. You don't need much. There's nothing. It'siss cheese at

that point there's no brain left he just pumping shots into his brain that's absolutely insane here uh there was the other guy there was russell dunaway yeah he was the guy with his who will never be the same i would say not after he probably tackled his kids to the ground i would think or pick them up and ran right like hell i don't know what he's still out of breath what do you even do there yeah do you cover them or run no i don't even know what to keep running until there's no more land i don't even that's what i mean how do you even get away like oh bullets fly maybe we get down but then what if he comes over here starts wanting to kill all of us who knows no witnesses um yeah he says that uh he heard gerald plead for his life beforehand, too.

He took the gun out and didn't just surprise him. He took it out, let him see it, let Gerald see it, and let Gerald beg him not to shoot him. Beg for his life, and then he shoots him a bunch of times, too. So if it couldn't get colder, that just got a little colder, I think. A little more cold-blooded than that. If someone begs for their life and you still kill them,'m sorry you couldn't even put a human form right you couldn't empathize in a human level with someone begging for their life yeah you're that's a different level of coldness it sounds like there was like a an argument with him in georgia where she got to the point where she was probably fed up and was said something like and it was good, motherfucker.

Yeah, yeah. So we had to go erase that, too? I don't know, man. Something had to be said, right? It had to be. It has to be. I don't even know. Or he might have, this guy is such a fucking loose cannon, you don't know.

That's what I mean. You have no idea. When he lured Gerald over and beat him up, there was no warning. And nothing predicated it. It wasn't like it was it wasn't an effect of a cause right it was just like sitting around one day and he was like fucking gerald i'm gonna kick his ass it's time to call him up it was like had nothing it wasn't like the night before he made him mad because he was out with george or some shit like

that it's really really weird shit here this whole thing is really weird and the pleading for their life thing is just i've heard of multiple uh very very terrible like legendary serial killers who've killed 30 people 20 people viciously carving people up and assaulting women and doing all this shit letting people go because of that because they beg for their life and they're sick as they fucking come right but even they humanize them enough to go oh god this guy's got a this woman said i can't remember who it was but the woman got away saying uh my dad has cancer and i take care of him and the guy and then the killer said my brother had cancer and died and that's terrible and get out of here go take care of your dad wow she made it up but it worked yeah but i mean dad died of cancer

later and she felt like a piece of shit well you know what dad At least I didn't get raped and murdered, so it's worth it. Isn't this worth it? Over his hospital bed. With the ventilator. It is. You're right. It is. This is so much better.

I feel good about this. I feel good. Let's get lunch. Thanks, dad. Thanks, dad. Feel good. Let's get lunch. Thanks, Dad.

Thanks, Dad. So to not give a shit or have any human empathy for someone who's begging for their life is a different level of coldness here. So he shoots him a bunch, gets back in his truck. Gets back in the truck. I don't know where the other people ran away. Looks over to his son. And he must be shell-shocked as shit. Pushed against the passenger door, for sure.

With a jaw on the floor. What's going on? Because you have to imagine, his mother just died 10 minutes ago in his house. He watched it. He watched his mother bleeding out and didn't get a chance to anything except get in the car.

We're going to kill Gerald now. Holy shit, this poor kid. Pushed against the truck door going, how does this movie end? Well, it ends here with, well, it doesn't end. It continues with Doug getting in, pulling out of the driveway. Got to get the fuck out of here, obviously. Yeah. There's going to be cops everywhere.

There's going to be cops. I'm sure. Literally hands the gun to Chris and says, reload that for me. Oh, boy. We're going somewhere else. Oh, where are we going, Dad? We got more scores to settle oh my god he's got the list we got we got scores to settle holy shit load it up yeah get get to loading mister oh boy so this kid's like okay at this point if i'm this kid's guy's son i'm doing anything he fucking says i am going to be

on his side till this at least till this little run is over with because i don't want him killing me he's clearly capable of anything if i say no who's to say you won't go fine i'll do it myself and then shoot me i don't know i'll reload i'm doing it if i'm chris so chris does uh or i'm sorry here he says here reload the gun chris says no yeah he does he says i'm not reloading the gun yeah i'm not doing it so uh uh okay uh kennedy then doug drives over to where steve russ lives remember steve russ the other guy steve russ is the guy who yeah who got in a fight in front of his bar and i've had some beef with him he's never never slept with his wife didn't rape his wife ever i don't think or at least even accused of it going over to his house and take care of some business. Some bitch fought in front of my bar.

How dare you? I missed him when I shot the first time. So during the trip, Doug tells him, look, we're going over to Steve Russ's house. I'm going to fucking kill him, too, for the shit he caused down at the bar. It's literally the reason he gives his kid. He's a little annoying at the bar. He's banned. I'm going to go to his house

and murder him because he annoyed me he's out of his mind at this point there's like did one might as well do two three fuck it who am i mad at the point is there's no solution here to this nope this is just now it's all fucked now it's fucked yeah oh boy he's just going uh now he he pulls up to the house he pulls up to russ's house russ is also outside yeah and he tries the same same ploy he has bears got a beer yeah why don't you bring me a beer he's trying to lure him over to the truck russ didn't have any beer he's like i don't have any and if he did he was probably like i'm staying away from you there's gunplay involved with you you're crazy so he asked for a beer and he said he didn't have any so doug uh

gets out of the truck and just at once pulls his gun out and starts shooting at russ russ goes holy shit he was standing in his front doorway he runs back in his house away from the bullets doug chases after him through the open doorway bucking shots through the house adam oh my god it's a chase now it's a goddamn chase so he's shooting him running through the thing uh he flees through the house at him oh my god it's a chase now it's a goddamn chase so he's shooting him running through the thing uh he flees through the house doug chases after him shooting again missing again russ ends up busting out the back door through there and is able to escape with doug chasing out behind him shooting him as he's fucking running through people's yards down the street yeah just fucking shots off like like they don't travel and hit other things besides what you want them to hit.

So does he run out of ammo eventually? The guy turns a corner and he can't find them anymore. So now he's on foot in a neighborhood. You're never going to get him. So Doug's like, well, I guess that's that then. Yeah. So, you know, whatever. So he gets back in the truck with Chris.

Chris is still in the truck. Yeah. Shell shocked. Empty again. Oh, boy. Yeah. Chris is still in the truck. Yeah.

Shell shocked. Empty again. Oh, boy. Yeah. So as they return home, though, what he doesn't realize is that a police car has been following at a pretty healthy distance behind him. They had heard what happened at the first house and then heard about more gunshots. Right. And then they assume it's him and they're following him.

But they have no guns in that county. They're like, let's just wait until he runs out. Let's wait until he stops, basically. Not until he's actively shooting, maybe, is what it was. So they do that. They drive home. He just drives home with Chris. Not even we're escaping now.

He's like, go home now. I guess the game's on. Like, fuck it. Dinner's almost ready. Weird as shit. So they go home. As they get home, he sees that the police are coming and uh doug puts the gun and the bullets under the truck seat because he'll never look there

hide these and never search my truck now he doesn't watch cops or live pd not at all it's like they never look under this heat god search my truck come on now so before doing that though as he's putting the bullets and gun down there he told chris he tells tolds he told chris he told them jesus i'm spending too much time talking about panhandle florida he tells chris that he knows he's going to prison he goes look i know i'm going to prison so i'm gonna hide this gun and uh you know so for whatever that's worth so jesus christ man uh they go home uh well this is i forgot to say this there's there's another part to this that's when they get home before they get home that was the second time they go home well this is I forgot to say this there's another part to this that's when they get home

before they get home that was the second time they got home they went home the first time after all the shootings and realized they didn't have a key oh they didn't have a key

so they had to go down to Parsons they had to no they had to go to where what's it called Penders Penders they had to go to the store

maybe Penders not sure where Angela the daughter works to get her key to get back in. So they go there, and then once they go there, that's when the police car spots them in town and follows them at a safe distance back, and he stuffs everything under his truck seat. I pray to Christ it was Pender's. God, I wish it was Pender's. I hope so. Just because it's the house key.

It's amazing. I don't have the house key. I think they have one. They have it. It's at Pender's. I'm telling you, man. It's one of them big old-timey keys. It doesn't have the house key. I think they have one. They have it. That's at Bender's. I'm telling you, man. It's one of them big old-timey keys. It doesn't look like it'll fit.

It's a skeleton key. It'll fit. It's going to fit. So the cause of death for Georgia is a single bullet directly to the heart. Perfect. I mean, couldn't have been more of a perfect deal there. Causing internal bleeding and a very quick death, they said, for her. Didn't take very long. Perfect deal there. Causing internal bleeding and a very quick death, they said, for her.

Didn't take very long. Now, Boisvert, they said, died slowly from seven shots, which caused internal bleeding in his brain over the course of many minutes, they said. Oh, no. So, it took up to like 10 minutes for him to die there, which it's true. Getting shot in the head doesn't necessarily mean. Yeah, it doesn't guarantee in the head doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't guarantee it doesn't and it's sad when you hear about people who uh i know someone who killed himself and uh it did not come quickly or easily i know a guy that tried and it did nothing but clean his eyes out yeah i remember you telling me about that boy this he succeeded but it took a while it must have been awful and it's horrible so anyway uh

this obviously is he's arrested for this clearly they asked what happened dad's shooting everybody that's what happened holy crap everybody without a gun dad's shooting he's just shooting at him you armed i hope so because he's gonna shoot at you otherwise so uh they go to court and uh the claims of of he says 14 to 26 beers and he's gonna really rest his hat on that to try to say that he was so out of it he had no idea what was going on no control over his actions and uh all of that except the only evidence of his beer consumption is his word right nobody watched him drink 26 beers maybe georgia did but she's not talking so even if he drank 26 beers how if he can't if he can function enough to drive a car thank you you are fucking

damn sure culpable for your behavior and able to hit a man in the head with a bullet your hand's pretty steady i think yeah so you know he he's and doug's going to testify on his own behalf too really and he's gonna he doesn't mention exactly how much he drank but he also talks about how he said he ate breakfast and drank coffee in addition to drinking beer so there was food and coffee mixed in with the beer as well so you know whatever it's a other stuff was in his stomach he wasn't an empty stomach uh he is six foot tall 185 pounds so they're saying that uh it's in court they say it strains credibility to believe he ate a full meal plus coffee then drank 26 cans of alcoholic beverage then acted like he did in the course of his crimes right like that just doesn't seem right uh at all that's six to eight beer behavior

that's six to eight exactly six to eight angry beer behavior totally that's you're 100 right now there's an officer here because doug as uh he's a regular in town yeah as we might say that the cops are aware of him he's been pulled out of places before like fights and drunken shit and whatever every all the cops know of his behavior so there's an officer earl cloud he uh he said that he said that uh kennedy when arrested for all the murders here was able to drive walk and climb stairs without seeming drunk so he said uh he he this guy says he another officer officer widner said that he's seen kennedy shit-faced drunk and he didn't think he was incapacitated at all on this day it's like

i've seen him shit-faced and he wasn't shit-faced. He would have had to drink a six-pack of tequila the last time he was shit-faced. Sounds like it, yeah. Sounds like this is the type of guy who stumbles and drools and falls, because otherwise he's a functioning alcoholic. Right. 14 beers, this guy will go drive around, go to work, and he'll do fucking chores on 14 beers.

That's nothing for him. That's a Sunday. That's a Sunday. It's like my grandfather used to go out and do yard work with the scotch in there. It was just probably an excuse to drink scotch in the workshop,

but still. My uncle drank 30 beers a night, a 30-pack a night, man. That's just so much. It's so much volume. How much do you piss? That's my thing

is I don't understand how he gets that much inside him. That's crazy. You'd be like, oh, I'm so full. Yeah, the amount of liquid itself how often

is he pissing i don't know probably his pants he died of it i mean he'd pass out underneath his fucking car working on it with like parts that he's told me that oil and shit everywhere pull the thing out you gotta pull the creepy out his hands are just dangling with a socket wrench in his hands. Is he dead? Oh, no, he's drunk. No, no, no. His chest is moving. His face is drunk. It's okay. That's crazy. I would say. Now, they talk to Steve Russ, who's a live potential victim.

By the grace of Christ. Jesus. He's quick and agile, I guess. He's as Baptist as it comes today. Oh, you know he is. Today he is so Baptist. Oh, Jesus. You know he is. He's God's guy it comes today. Oh, you know he is. Today he is so Baptist. Oh, Jesus. You know he is.

He's God's guy, is his email. Leading the choir. Leading the choir. Godsguy at gmail.com. I've got good news. I've got great good news. He's up there just saying things. Him and Pat Boone are doing duets.

You hit the awesome God part. Come come on let's go pat he's got good news he's like one of the best he's a backup singer he's got good news i am god's guy.com man so uh steve russ he says that he identifies himself as a drinking buddy of Doug's. He's not even he didn't even have beef with Doug. No, Doug literally was like, he pissed me off, too. Like he was getting into like, who can I shoot now? Not even like I have this overwhelming desire to kill this person and all these people. It was who can I shoot now? Well, he made me mad.

Sure. It's his place is on the way home. Might as well stop by and bug a couple shots at him. Now, that he's drank with with canady more times than he can count so he's a very good judge of how drunk he is okay you know your friends where they are yeah you know what i mean he says on that uh quote on a sobriety scale of zero to ten zero being sober and ten being staggering drunk canady was about a five or six that day. So he's, yeah, he's sauced up to the point. That's 16 pissed off.

He's moving. That's what it sounds like. That's what I'm saying. So he said his whole thing is my, my ankle slipped. It was a total accident. And, uh, you know, same when I was in the truck. Well, that's a different story. But his wife, he, his claims are this.

My wife was an accident i don't even remember shooting gerald i don't even remember 26 blacked out drunk i remember shooting my wife but that was a total accident i slipped he actually talks about a floorboard might have been loose at one point it's a fucking double wide trailer what floorboard do you have what particle board the linoleum was fucking corner of the linoleum was sticking up what's going on here so uh dave willens is a firearms expert he testifies to uh about his 38 caliber smith and wesson that doug had here and he said after testing the gun he concluded that it could not have possibly fired by accident it's perfectly functional condition there's no like doesn't have a weird mechanism that's off or anything. It's perfectly fine. Now, his defense, like I said, is accident on the wife and insanity to the killing of Boyce for it.

I was so drunk. I was crazy. What are the two ways to get out of this accident and insanity? Those are them. That's me. Both times. It's just sounds like my afternoon. Ever have a bad day?

This is what it is. Sometimes a bad day? This is what it is sometimes. A bad day. And sometimes you bring your 15-year-old. You bring your sophomore with you to take it all in. It's a murder day. Jesus. Let's take your son to work.

Bring your sophomore to murder day. Bring your sophomore to murder day, everybody. Come on down. You got to prep him for the work. They can't go to school now. So if you're going to murder, bring your sophomore with you now. Get him some life experience. Run him along.

Christ. So that's his deal here. During trial, he's allowed to produce evidence that he felt. They let him produce evidence. They let him use the defense that he would have went to Gerald's house because he was upset about the alleged rape. So they basically make it so if they'll give him that to do. But he has to, to like prove that his wife was raped then well prove why you did because if he if this guy really did rape his wife and she

was despondent for months and all that then this would be another story we'd be looking at a manslaughter or there'd be a lot of sympathy with the jury yeah a lot of sympathy even if you had two months to think about it the sympathy of the jury is you could as a defense attorney you can go up and say what if somebody raped your wife to a guy and he'd go i'd fucking kill him yeah so i'd want to kill him at least i get it you know i can understand yeah i may not do it but i can damn sure understand i understand it's like chris rock with oj yeah not saying i kill it but i understand i get it yeah no obviously that was ridiculous. But yeah, so they allow him evidence to the opportunity to try to produce evidence that he felt that Boisvert had raped his wife.

He proves nothing of that. Obviously, he doesn't do that. All it is is that all he can prove is that he thought that basically it's all he can prove, which means nothing. He does offer, though, the hearsay testimony of his daughter. says my daughter told me something that's why it was he said uh angela was told by her mother so she told her who told me who told him who told this one who told the clerk at pender's in case anyone wants to know i'm about to tell you i'm about to tell you something that that's how the alleged rape came out. I heard from my daughter who heard directly from her mother about the rape.

So but no evidence was offered to show that he knew about this conversation or was acting in response to it or he just heard it and said, I'm going to clean my fucking gun. That would make sense. And since since the subject of what Angela, the daughter, knew wasn't really relevant, they wouldn't let him do that. That was considered hearsay and that was okay. But that's what he was trying to get in, basically. Dr. Macaluso, this guy, he's one of the defense people, he just takes, at face value, he had 26 beers.

But he said he didn't think that was credible this guy uh but the uh and the court didn't find him credible because they the judge said that he found his arm sorry one of the jurors later said they found his testimony evasive this doctor uh included the assertion that basically what he says is, look, this guy had 26 beers. His assertion is that, quote, intoxication destroys mental intent without impeding physical performance. So he basically turns you into a mindless zombie person. You're a fucking mind. That your body can go around and do everything that you can do, but your brain has no control over it. That's a guy that's never had a drink.

That's what I'm saying. They usually go about in tandem with each other, usually. you know actually close it's quite the opposite my brain's kicking at a motherfucking rate you know yeah i'm having so much fun in there that my body's like jimmy slow it down we're gonna puke we're gonna puke no shit uh he says this this doctor he says that a motorist who drinks and drive is impaired because he's showing bad judgment but if his blood alcohol level is below at the time was the legal limit 0.10 by the way used to be the legal limit uh he is not presumed to be physically impaired so that's that's what he's saying so he's showing bad judgment to drive even though he's not impaired what he's saying makes no

fucking sense uh yeah he says uh he he said that canady doug could divest himself of criminal intent without impairing motor skills or such non-criminal intent as going to a particular location going to angela's store to retrieve her key or refusing to speak to the police or hiding the gun under the seat and all this shit basically yeah he he could not have intent to do it but his body could be going through the motions of all this stuff. Okay. Perfectly fine without his brain being attached to it. This is unbelievable.

If he was stolen by pod people, this is what ends up happening here. I mean, I've seen it, but I've also seen it where they're so drunk and they're going to the bathroom. Like, they're walking towards the bathroom in their head head yeah they're actually walking towards their child's room and then they piss in the toy box instead of the toilet that's what happens i know a guy used to piss on his curtains all the time his wife used to yell at him for it this guy's acting like you in your you you get drunk and blackout and then you go right to the bathroom piss in the toilet that's not how that works that's the thing you think that's where you are you in your brain all right yeah he could have went to a preschool and shot you know indiscriminate

amount of children and just been like i got rust 13 times a fucking mickey mouse stuffed animal and thought he said i shot that gerald song bitch a whole lot of times actually you didn't that would make sense mickey and now uh minnie is lonely yeah also here uh the two other doctors said that they thought doug was sane and competent during these murders the state doctors his doctor the macaluso guy also says that uh doug's brain has a atrophy there's a ton of atrophy in his brain so he's just fucked up he's like a wrestler has been hit with too many share shots he just can't okay doesn't know what he's doing uh although the other doctors gave him cat

scans and an eeg and they're all perfectly normal so he just pulled the atrophy out of his out of his astrophy he just fucking made it up apparently i don't know i don't know how you can tell brain atrophy when all of the ways they tell that say that he doesn't have brain atrophy exactly so he just said he did the defense calls lots of uh witnesses and they all have a certain uh reason why i'll run them down quick uh they recall a deputy to testify deputy baggett to testify that kennedy was a drinker so in case that needed to be established uh he they call billy blizzard oh boy who is that he sounds like he was married to joe exotic he sounds like he's joe exotic's third husband i think after the one guy killed himself, they were just like, you know what?

Fuck it. We'll get Billy Blizzard in here. The heir apparent to the tiger empire here, Billy Blizzard. Is his middle name Chillin' Grill? That's what I mean. This is awesome. I so wish this was Crime and Sports because he would be a character. Billy Blizzard would so be a character.

Kudos to his parents for torturing his full fucking life. William Blizzard. Perfect. No one can say anything bad about that. So Billy Blizzard is a cellmate of Doug's after his arrest. Of course he is. Yeah, Billy Blizzard's in jail. That guy didn't keep it together?

Nope. Sucking, isn't it? Are you surprised that Billy Blizzard isn't more of an upstanding citizen? He doesn't own several businesses. Super weird. He owns the other gas station. So he's a cellmate. It's called a blizzness.

Yes. Me and my blizznesses. Boom. Flicking dollar bills at you. He says that he was in the cell that Kennedy was plunked into after his arrest. And he said that Kennedy looked drunk when arrested. That's his expert testimony. Were you in the cell yeah your name's billy blizzard right okay everyone take this with a grain of salt billy blizzard you were in the cell yeah was he drunk he looked drunk

to me thank you for your and then he leaves that's literally his contribution to this thing holy shit uh tom baxter who's another guy who's a friend of Doug's. He's there to testify that Doug thought that Gerald raped Georgia. Okay. He thought that, but that doesn't matter. Who called these people? The defense attorney. Unbelievable. Deputy Davis, another deputy to testify that Kennedy was a drinker.

So he is a drunk. Yes. The judge at some point had to just stop and go, jury, he's a fucking drunk. Everybody get that. He's a drunk. He loves to jury, he's a fucking drunk. Everybody get that. He's a drunk. He loves to drink. How many more witnesses? It's over.

Everyone knows he's drunk. Next to witness for whatever else you're trying to prove. Yeah, we get it. Also, George Kennedy, who is his brother, testifying to Doug's drinking and Doug's suspicion that Gerald had raped Georgia again. Another deputy to testify that kennedy was drunk uh when booked but he doesn't testify to that that's what the defense wants out of him like wasn't he drunk when you booked him and he was like i don't know he seemed to be okay he followed her instructions and shit like that and they're like but he was drunk right they're

like i don't know seemed fine to me i'm not yeah i didn't check that's the thing field sobriety tests they're half to see if you're if you're sober enough to follow instructions that's half of it that's why they tell you to do this and like little things that you don't seem to matter yeah that's just to see if you'll remember them because sober people remember instructions and drunk people don't that's the fucking reason so that's what drunk people tell you the same story 17 times yeah this guy says thumb and he gave you his thumb right then he's you know at least he's functional enough to know where he is uh another deputy testified to a suicide attempt made by canady uh while he was in in holding apparently he had a suicide attempt after all this he held his breath uh yeah

they were like he was blue uh but then he just went and then it was fine after that and then all his color came it was weird it was totally fine suicide it was it's an attempt though we had to put him in isolation so uh he is uh and also that he'd been drinking uh morris pope to testify that kennedy is a drinker uh kenneth king the pope and the king they got here how many people call a pope and a king and a blizzard in the same fucking in the same deal it's awesome that is amazing uh he's to testify about uh that he also drinks that that doug drinks they had angela the daughter to testify about the events leading up to the murder that george just seemed despondent

and all that kind of shit uh also the doctor who we talked about to tell you about you know that idiot uh and then doug testifying on his own behalf obviously uh he says here um while he's testifying he kind of departs a bit from his alcoholism defense and testifies that the shooting of georgia really was nothing more than an accident he doesn't even remember 10 minutes later shooting gerald but he remembers this in such detailed perfect perfectness that he knows that it was an accident and this and this and this yeah so somehow without drinking anymore he went from shotgun 26 beers between the time yeah he went from like a 2 to a 15 on the drunk scale

in that short amount of time he tells he said that he he discharged the gun when he gripped his chair to get up uh he claimed at trial that a spring broke on his chair okay as he was getting up a spring broke on his chair as he was getting up and then his ankle popped he heard like his ankle popped and it moved and then his gun butt hit the arm of the chair when his ankle popped he like kind of put his hand down to grip himself and the gun butt hit the arm of the chair and he says maybe his finger was on the trigger at that point i'm not sure but it discharged a bullet that hit my wife fucking dead center in the heart lucky lucky it's a lucky shot i'm a good what do you want for me he's like joe pesci and goodfellas i'm a good fucking shot what

do you want for me i don't know that's his when he shot spider yeah he shot me i'm a good fucking shot i don't know it's a it's not a good shot when you shoot somebody six times fucking dead tommy i'm a good shot what do you want from me. He's fucking dead, Tommy. I'm a good shot. What do you want from me? I ain't got no fucking line. I got the fucking line. Take a fucking hole. First fucking hole I ever dug before. That's a great line, considering how many times.

Well, he said he's dead. I'm a good fucking shot. What do you want from me? I didn't hit him in the arm or anything. You hit him center mass six times. That's not a good shot. That's just a lot. With a 45.

That's just a lot. That's just a lot. You don't even really have to aim in that close of range. So he then also testifies that once his wife was shot, that he said his son Chris came into the room and he said he this is amazing he comforted chris yeah uh telling her that telling chris that his mom's suffering was over now and it's going to be okay that's real comforting right not comforting shot mom dead she's feeling better now son don't you feel good no my mom's dead what about that part where is he not even acknowledging he said i had to do it he's saying that was that was to comfort chris that was just to comfort chris like she's she's she's better now now she's out of her

misery type of thing like she's a deer got hit by a car all right so um yeah he testifies he gives no explanation of killing uh boisford at all they ask him so then you got in the car and you went over to gerald's house and you went i don't know yeah i don't know i mean ask chris he would know i'm not sure he said so you shot him this many times not sure they explained you stood over him shot him more you shot in the direction of children right while you were discharging the fucking firearm he goes doesn't ring a bell doesn't sound like me sound like something i sound like something I would do. I'm much safer with weapons than that. I don't think so, really.

I don't really. No, I don't want to do that now that I'm thinking about it. That ain't me. So the jury here. Yeah. I mean, what do you have in your lap with this case? What is it? Temporary insanity.

Okay. And accidental temporary insanity. And the other choice is first degree? I mean... The other choice is first. Death penalty's on the table. It's Florida, the whole deal. They're pushing for the death penalty here.

Because, I mean, obviously, Gerald's is pretty fucking calculated. Even if his wife's was an accident, he then went, well, in for a penny, in for a pound. Let's do this shit. What about that part where he could run? You know what I mean? When he was chasing Russ. Yeah, there you go. Remember when you ran?

Remember that part? Jesus. The jury comes back and says, guilty. Yeah. Both times. Fuck you. Murder, murder. He wanted manslaughter and an acquittal.

He wanted manslaughter for his wife because it's an accident and then her negligent homicide or whatever. And then, you know, for Gerald, they wanted temporary insanity. Anybody, when they would get into a drunken stupor, their first thing was their body would automatically go to a place where there's a person who you think raped your wife, even though they didn't. I think eight years is fair. It seems fair. Jesus Christ. Now, during the penalty phase, Doug Kennedy you know doug kennedy speaks for himself

and requests the death penalty he does he said i'd like the death penalty please tried to kill myself couldn't pull that off if someone could kill me that'd be great somebody hold my nose so i can hold my breath which is yeah please which is kind of a shitty thing to do considering you have two kids and you killed their mother right so now you're saying kill me too fuck my kids yeah fuck my kids i don't give a fuck about they can grow up with no parents nobody i don't care at least if he's there maybe they'd be mad at him for a while but eventually they might have some sort of relationship with him we see this shit all the time it happens a lot uh so uh he for himself. The court also called a doctor to witness to testify to his mental state. Because when you have anybody standing up there going, I'd like the death penalty, they generally go, let's make sure he's not crazy.

Because that's something where you could then appeal later saying, I was out of my mind when I said that. I don't want the death penalty now. So he insisted that he did not murder his wife but that he did murder boysford and deserved to be executed for doing it he's like i don't remember doing it but i did it so fucking off with my head here let's do this shit so uh this is what they do here uh they're looking at the one of the uh issues here uh uh that they're looking at for death or not death is whether it was cold calculated and premeditated. Okay.

That's one. Now for Georgia, they said he had to retrieve his gun from its hiding place. He took care to sit and clean his gun. He cleaned it before he did this. Then he loaded the gun after he cleaned it. When you clean one of those, it has to be empty pretty much.

Yeah. Otherwise either the bullets will fall out. Number one. And number two, it's hard to clean the fucking chambers where the bullets are. If there's bullets in them. You generally push those out. It's difficult.

Yeah, it's not easy to do. So he reloaded the gun and they said he must have aimed the handgun to put the one shot right into George's heart. That would be a hell of a coincidence. I mean, it's happened before. From the hip? That's nuts. Yeah, just from the chair?

Yeah. It's probably not going to happen. Take it easy, Doc Holliday. Absolutely. They said there's no reason for this. And not going to happen. Take it easy, Doc Holliday. Absolutely. They said there's no reason for this, and he told his son, quote, I had to do it. So one thing if he says, well, she's not suffering now, that's, I guess, an attempt at comforting if you're drunk. But to say, had to do it, that's not good. Those words are damning.

Yeah. Now, to Gerald Boysford, the court notes that he had brought an extra box of ammunition with him. Because then he got an extra box to take in the truck with him to go shoot Gerald. That's a lot. That's a lot. He wanted to make sure. Because who knows how many more people he was going to shoot. He was going to shoot Steve Russ.

Maybe he had another one after Steve. Because the only reason he went home is because Steve got away. So he figured Steve was going to call the cops on him. So he's like, well, I better go home and get my shit together. I don't know. So they say that he brought an extra box of ammunition he had time to reflect yeah not only as he drove to his house but in the weeks and months since any of this has gone by uh he declared his intentions to chris ahead of time there you go that's another one

then he lured him over to the truck then he uh then he did not uh did not like uh adhere to his begging for his life and then not only did he shoot him a bunch he then got out reloaded the gun which you need to be pretty calm to be able to put the bullets in there and get out and do it again yeah so uh i think about that a lot like because i got guns and what at that time when you've got to reload if i didn't hit him and end it, it's over. It's over. I'm going to get shot. Yeah, you need those.

There's no fucking way I'm going to be able to plug those back into the... How the fuck are you going to get? Oh, my God. That's insane. With a shaking ass hand? No way. And a revolver? No.

And I got to get five in there? No, not happening. I'll be lucky if I get one. That's the thing there. So the jury comes back and they are going to vote. They vote 10 to 2 in favor of you, sir. May fuck off. Death penalty for Mr. Kennedy.

10 to 2 is enough? At the time it is. In 89 it is. That's the problem. That seems a bit... Yeah. At that time it was like, well, fuck it. That's enough.

Majority rules, everybody. Moving on. Ordering pizza. Can we ask those two what they were thinking, maybe? Can we talk to them a little more? They're treating it like they just asked them what they want for dinner. Yeah. And people said pizza and two said lasagna.

And they're like, suck it up, fuckers. Pizza it is. And pepperoni. That's it, man. Hope you like it. Yeah. We'll put sausage on yours. So he has his first appeal appeal and it's just based on

uh merits of the case and shit like that or if they there's a couple things he was appealing on like jury selection and we go over that shit a million times i don't care i don't like the way the uh the uh attorney the defense attorney handled it but he didn't really have much he's not given much here and this guy's i mean the the um the actual person the defendant is the one who's driving the defense if the defense if the lawyer says this is how we're going to mount the defense and the defendant says no you're not i this is my defense you gotta go with that it's like you can't you can't go against it he makes it real hard to like him too he makes it impossible to like him he killed people in front of his son which is a terrible thing right there with other kids present

in the one thing everything he's done is really a man around a neighborhood it's difficult he's reckless as shit too that's the other thing you got to look at is this guy has no regard not only for the people that he's shooting at anybody else else. He doesn't give a fuck. It's just about him. So, yeah. Finally, though. So the one appeal gets denied. He gets another appeal in 1993 here. And in this one, the justices find that the trial court was wrong to find that the murder of Georgia Kennedy was heinous, atrocious or cruel as an aggravating factor used for the death penalty. cruel as an aggravating factor used for the death penalty and the aggravating factors intend they say it's intended for torturous murders that are committed in such a way to cause a lot of pain

rather than hers she died very quickly uh they said so that's you know they they also ruled that the murder of georgia was not cold calculated and premeditated either even though he went and got a gun and you could take that either way though uh those two aggravating factors overturned uh for uh that death sentence they overturn it and put a life sentence for because he has two death sentences for both murders so so he's got a life and a death he's got a life and a death so he's just in case yeah he's holding the spare here spare tire in the back pocket so uh now they order they vacate the death sentence for his for gerald boys for its murder as well what and order another sentencing hearing uh it rejected the aggravating factors as it did

for georgia and the justices said her murder uh should be could be considered a prior violent felony conviction and that could be used to justify the death penalty for the boys for trying to do it that way. Got to redo it. Yeah. Turns out, though, anyway, it doesn't matter. They concurred that all six justices are up for getting rid of the death penalty for him and try having a resentence. And on the resentencing, it has to be they passed the Supreme Court, passed a law in between the time he was convicted of death

and 93 that says that it has to be unanimous. Yeah. So a law in between the time he was convicted of death and 93 that says that it has to be unanimous yeah so that is also on the table so he ends up being sentenced to life without parole okay on the resentence on everything yeah two life sentences without parole okay and then there's like a firearms charge and he's got some bullshit too you know who the fuck knows so he ends up going to prison in florida uh and he sits there from 1989 uh all the way up until december 12th 2019 just happened when he died oh damn it he just died i guess that's life he up and croaked on you he's almost 80 yeah fucking an alcoholic yeah who's almost 80 he lasted so he lasted it

out my uncle got to like 54 that's most yeah most people do my grandfather didn't last very long this guy fucking well i guess he stopped though yeah he went to jail even if he's drinking prison wine he's not drinking enough of it to get himself my uncle stopped too yeah he stopped one of the cases i was looking at for this particular day that might have that we're maybe would have done in place of this had a guy in prison said he drank three gallons of rubbing alcohol in prison what like in a city on like a saturday afternoon you do that yeah oh i almost did that case just for that just for us to talk about rubbing alcohol and how much of it you could possibly stand to drink.

That man's piss was flammable. Oh, you know it. Had to be. So he's dead. Yeah. Doug Kennedy's dead. That's good news. Hopefully Angela and Chris have, I don't know, gotten this.

Some kind of life. I don't know. That's just scary, man. Who took care of them? I don't know. I hope the family stepped up. The government likely was just like, listen, you're 18. Go do it.

Well, you're 18. Yeah. The yeah the 15 year old had to go somewhere i mean i just i hope the kids stuck together and i hope that they i hope she runs the bar and he runs the gas that would be fucking amazing that'd be beautiful i hope they are a were able to like move on past this and your mom dead and your dad being sent away forever just the stigma of that i hope they i hope they moved away from this fucking area, went somewhere better or different or bigger, and just started new lives and changed their names and forgot that this ever happened. Live in Portland and harvest weed.

Great. You know what? That'd be amazing. That's a good life for anybody, really. That's what I hope. I hope they got into the weed market at the bottom floor. That would be awesome.

Right when it came through. Like, fucking, they were already doing it. Yeah. So he's dead. Everybody's dead except for the kids and there we go uh one moment and just a moment here we'll be doing the prisoner dating game yeah but uh if you like that please get on apple podcast the purple icon there give us five stars doesn't matter what you say say you're following instructions following directions uh do all of that stuff. We'll get this house cleaning stuff here. Then we'll do the prisoner dating game.

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Are you ready to do Love After Lockup? Yes. Which if you have not watched Love After Lockup, fuck, you are missing out. And this is how Love After Lockup starts. Oh, boy. If you don't know what Love After Lockup is, it's a show where people find prisoners. Yeah. Like this.

Like this. This way. This way. And they write to them and they become engaged to them, basically. And they have this big relationship and they send these people money. Right. One woman was in jail for 10 years and got $800,000 for men for drugs in jail. $90,000 from one man.

From one man. Right. So it's crazy. It's wild. They get out. 90% of the time it works out horribly. Only two couples worked out. One worked out, yeah.

One worked out. Britney and Marcelino there. They're good. That one worked out. They're okay. The other one did not work out. It's very shaky. Yeah, it's shaky.

The other one that you thought worked out, you're like, I don't know about that. That's working out. She's still a crack horse. She's a crack head. The other one that you thought worked out, you're like, I don't know about that. That's working out. She's still a crack horse. She's a crack head. He's punching his truck in the driveway. Things are not going, everybody got what they wanted. Just assaulting a Chevy. That was awesome.

His own Chevy. That's the other thing. Stop punching your own truck, stupid. Good life. How many times did that phone take a flight, too? Oh, God. Dude, he threw it into the bushes he threw it across the yard it was all cracked and shit and you're like you no wonder why it's

cracked dummy good lord you throw it every time you get mad and then he has a thing i guess if you look him up like he's admitted that he he used to do meth and you're like yeah no shit you did you're 37 you look 58 he looked older than dad. He had abrasions on his face. All the time. For months. Never explained them. For months. New ones.

He always had new ones. It looked like he worked with exotic birds or something. They were always pecking at him like he was a zookeeper in the bird thing. Those fucking things are always... Just constantly a cut face. The flamingos are dicks. I'm telling you right now. It's always cut up. You're not supposed and not supposed to have that hell is wrong with not scratches either slices yeah just like

the diagonal cut is so strange so with that said let's play the prisoner dating game right i've lined up four of the most eligible young gentlemen and four of the most eligible young ladies for you jimmy let's get right to it wonderful with our first of the night here uh let's see start right at the top here my name is damon jerome richardson i'm 55 years of age a little older fellow for you jimmy i think there might be a little maturity what you need i'm a former death row inmate oh he got commuted having spent 17 and a half years on death row for a crime I did not commit. Very important. Well, upon unanimous reversal of my conviction, your sentencing, your conviction. You're still there. Calm down.

I was released from death row and placed in general population. I'm currently being held for a, quote, organized crime charge for which I had prior been sentenced to death. OK, so, yeah, probably doing bad things. Yeah. sentenced to death okay so uh yeah probably doing bad things yeah uh due to due to spending such a lengthy period of time on death row i've lost all my friends and most of my family therefore i'm interested in finding a pen pal a pen friend someone who is open-minded honest and not judgmental you know because i'm a murderer right you know that goes people that judge sort of murder sort of bags sort of was on death row.

I would like to be accepted for who I am rather than on the basis of what I've been accused of or the negative characteristics generally associated with being a death row prisoner. You're going to have negative connotations to being so bad that we decided the only way to handle you is to kill you. Nobody's been sentenced to death for money laundering. Not usually. You are a murderer, man. You either murdered someone or you're totally innocent but there's nothing in between there's nothing in between you're like i really was hungry so i stole a ham and then they put me to death for it that doesn't happen i had this whole ham stealing operation crazy so they put me to death but then they were like now we can't kill him it's just hormel sorry murder or nothing that's it fucking guy then he

says quote uh essentially if i must be judged at all then let it be on the contents of my character i am formerly a small business owner yeah we know that i enjoy writing and listening to a variety of music my greatest love is art which i find extremely fascinating currently i'm devoted to exercising and weightlifting in order to keep my body in perfect condition. I prefer corresponding with someone who's 30 years of age or older. Hopefully, I can find someone with a fondness for being close to nature. I like discussing politics, current and global events, like it matters to you, and matters that impact the future of humanity. Sincerely, Damon Jerome Richardson.

He's very smart. He's very eloquent with words. He's good at this. And he knows you don't go after young girls because they're not sending you money. Young girls expect you to send them money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You find some 45-year-old woman who's lonely. Somebody that reads books.

As we've watched from all these reality shows, whether it be Love After Lockup or even 90 Day Fiance, or that's who's looking for the lonely you know i'm getting worried i'm not gonna you know i'm gonna be alone it's this is their middle age crisis exactly exactly uh now he's a sagittarius uh he is let's see here uh brown eyes black hair he's single multi-racial yeah uh non-denominational religion he's not looking to further his education he is seeking legal help and prayer partners yeah so there's that and uh let's see here he is in for uh he's in for organized crime that's all it says organized crime like he said uh up next and we'll tell you what they did after yeah we get

after we describe them so you can choose like that up next is this guy jimmy hell yeah he has a hair boy he has hair made of tattoos. Yeah. His hairline is done with tattoos. Everywhere that there's not tattoos, he has bright pink skin. Jesus. And he has tattoos under his eyes. Oh, he does.

And here we go. Hi. Uh-huh. Howdy. Are you sick of games and lies from immature guys? He looks very mature, this man. I'll give him that here. Would you like someone who will respect you,

value you, and put you first? Good news, I'm right here. And I ain't going anywhere. Did I mention that? I'm going to sit here for a while. Oh, my God. I know I'm not quite a GQ underwear model, but if you're a fan of kindness, loyalty,

respect, and dedication, I'm the guy for you. I live life by this motto. the only person you should try to better than what the only person you should try to be better than is the one you were yesterday yeah it's tattooed on my face it's all on my hair here i've been blessed with a great life with some awesome friends but something is missing you right and And the outdoors. Right. Jesus. I've been blessed with a great 25 to life.

How long is he in for? Shit. I'd like to build a solid friendship with a woman who loves to laugh, loves to have fun, and has a bright, cheerful personality. You can email me at jpay.com, of course, or you can snail mail me at the address below. If you email me, leave your contact. Since I can't email you back, I'll always respond the same day I get your message.

Go ahead and hit me up. You'll be glad you did. Oh, boy. He turned into a used car salesman. Come on down. What's his name? Come on down to Greg's Motors. You'll be glad you did.

He's a Leo. Let's see here. Red hair, blue eyes. That's what he put? Oh, yeah. He's from Oklahoma. There. He's a Christian. Single. And he's in for armed robbery. Oh, boy.. That's what he put? Oh yeah, he's from Oklahoma. There, he's a Christian, single,

and he's in for armed robbery. Oh boy. So there's that. Up next, oh, this is a good one here. Here he is. You can see, I won't give you his thing, but there's his face there. Oh my god, why do they all have so many tattoos? A lot of facial tattoos. A lot of shit above the shirt. Lots. Lots that can't be covered up.

I'm a beautiful amazing person that's how he starts my mom said so beautiful amazing person but due to a couple terrible choices i'm stuck in this dark ugly place with little chance of getting out so i'm looking for someone who can maybe brighten up uh brighten up my life a little maybe put a smile on my face and keep me positive i hate to say I need someone, but I do. Maybe that someone could be you? Question mark? Yeah.

Possibly. Please. I've robbed several banks. Oh, my God. This is his next sentence. Been in high-speed chase and killed a man. So, interesting stories. I have plenty.

Oh, my God. Oh, wow. Would you like to hear about the time I killed a man? Okay, we've done this a few times. We've never heard anybody try to use their crimes as a come on before. They're usually like, hey, that's not me. That's just some shit I have. And he's like, I'll talk about it with you if you want.

Want to hear what it's like to kill a motherfucker? I know. I'll tell you. Rob DeBank got in a high speed chase. Kill the motherfucker. How was your Thursday? Want to see what it's like to see the light leave a man's eyes? Because I'll fucking tell you. Rob DeBank got in a high-speed chase. Kill the motherfucker. Let's see what it's like to see. How was your Thursday? I want to see what it's like to see a, I want to hear what it's like to see the light leave a man's eyes,

because I'll fucking tell you. I got that shit clocked. This fucking guy is nuts. This guy is amazing. He's balls in, though. He's going all out, man. He doesn't care at all. He doesn't give a shit anymore.

He's just talking. He knows. He's had little chance of getting fucking zero chance. He said, I've loved, lost and loved again. So, yes, I have feelings, too. I play Scrabble and chess. I write poems. So my intellect is not lacking.

I'm young, tattooed and I stay in shape. My appearance is attractive. That's nice. Yeah, I guess minus the life sentence i'm the total package then he puts smile in in parentheses like he's laughing that's his lol wrote it hit me up well they don't give us emojis around here no so you just have to put smile in parentheses you get those hard eyes motherfuckers they'll be raping each other over that he's a virgo yeah here he's he's 31 years old he's from dayton ohio uh he is not interested in furthering his

education he is interested in legal help but not interested in seeking any prayer uh prayer partners at all here uh does this sound like i'm religious i'll tell you a story of when I took a man's life. His soonest release date is never. Yeah. He's in for life, incarcerated for attempted murder, bank robbery, weapons under disability, and, oh yeah, murder. He's a bad man. He's a bad man, this guy.

That's the worst guy I've ever heard of. Not a good guy at all. Not good. And next, our last fella of the night here. Here he is, Jimmy. What do you think of him right there? Oh, boy. Look at him.

He's a little older. He's an older guy. He's jacked, though. He's jacked. He is. He starts out, ladies, dot, dot, dot. All right. Ladies, please allow me this.

He's a fucking suave, this guy. Please allow me this opportunity to introduce myself. Wow. You're wasting words motherfucker my name is phil yeah it is hey phil how you doing i'm an italian american who arrived in this country as a young boy oh he's an actual from italy all right arrived in this country as a young boy i communicate fluently in italian as well as spanish yeah because if you speak one you speak the same fucking language trust me i work in restaurants i got the gist of what

you're saying i don't know exactly what some of those connecting words were but i know what the rest of it was i know what table number you're talking about table number pasta i got it i get it beautiful uh i maintain a beautiful house in italy near the romantic amalfi coast and have plans on returning there upon my release in a couple of years. I hope you enjoy traveling. I'm gonna kidnap you to another country. I'm gonna take you here and drown you right off the romantic Amalfi Coast.

What the fuck is happening? Go on. I am a law school graduate having had my own firm as a managing partner along with other attorneys i was also once elected official five terms i was once an elected official five terms in office what i was elected at a young age i'm financially secure i'm not seeking money from women besides that's not the gentlemanly thing to do phil he's a fucking getting this guy this is a guy hey you know what i don't want your fucking money I got my own money when I get out of here yeah I'll take care of you take you on a nice

trip drown you off the romantic Amalfi Coast did I say that I didn't mean to say that you try to pay for a goddamn thing I'll put your head under the water I'll drown you I'm not kidding I'm not kidding embarrass me in front of my friends you sons of bitches he says I believe beauty transcends race religion and place of origin and therefore i invite all women to respond but it does not uh it does not supersede transcend uh genitalia i'm seeking someone to co-author an exciting story are you interested oh that was classy that's classy he's an aries he's willing to correspond outside the U.S. He's from Comac, New York. He's divorced.

Christian. Not interested in furthering education. He's a fucking, got a law degree. He doesn't need to. He's not seeking legal help because he's a lawyer. He's got his own. And he's not seeking prayer partners at all. He's looking for straight girls.

That's all he's looking for. Let's see here. Where is he in for? Nearest, soonest release date. He could be released as soon as july 26 2023 oh and his latest release date though is 2034 oh okay that can be rough i got a feeling you're not leaving this country till 2034 this is your guy right this is your guy so far so far here he's in for yeah sexual abuse of children oh boy violation of public trust. Sounded like a real nice guy, didn't he? Sounded fun. Whoops.

Hey. Hope you like to travel. Bring the kitties. I was thinking that maybe he got in trouble like lawyering or something. No, money laundering. Nope. Fucking kids. Scumbag.

Doing something to him. God damn it. Not good. He's even staying in shape so he can wrestle him to the ground. And violation of public trust, which is probably, it might have been a client yeah something like that because he was a lawyer he might have all that's disturbing oh that's so much just move on to the ladies yeah they fuck kids less so it's better with guy number one you're going with one yeah okay because he's never getting out one okay that's true you can just have a nice safe so number one is jimmy's choice there that was uh jimmy jimmy jimmy jimmy jimmy jimmy jimmy jimmy jimmy jimmy jimmy jimmy jimmy jimmy Number one is Jimmy's choice there. That was Damon. Jerome. Damon. Yeah. Damon Jerome.

Damon Jerome Richardson. There you go, Jimmy. That's our guy. Nice black guy in Texas for you. That's going to work out. Here's the ladies. Here we go. Hi.

You can take a look. I can't believe that guy fucks kids. Oh, he fucks kids. Yeah, I didn't believe that either. All right. She's nice. Hi. Normal. Hi.

My name is Carrie. I am fun, loving, not fun loving, fun comma loving. Have a great sense of humor, extremely loyal, and overall a very strong woman. I'm hoping to make a connection, whether it be a lifelong friend, lover, or even a potential boss. What does that mean? You're going to hire her, I guess? This is how you're applying for jobs on writerprisoner.com? Not the best way to do it.

This isn't monster.com, Drew. This is like LinkedIn, like linkedin monster craigslist sometimes but i'm gonna go with fucking write a prisoner.com uh wow he's a cheap secretary yeah uh someone that is supportive and non-judgmental of my past i enjoy camping four-wheeling and swimming at the lake this is your girl my gal i love anything to do with the outdoors. I choose to embrace the child within me. I listen to and love all kinds of music, from alt-rock to hip-hop, even classical. I enjoy writing, laughing, good cuisine, and animals. I am open and quite love learning new things.

Anything that will help me succeed in bettering my life. This is a little about myself. I am more interested in hearing about you and your story but she has done this before that's smart she's a cancer yeah that's what i'm saying uh let's see she's only 26 she's a young one her hometown is sitka alaska oh no which is one of our small town murder hometown so if you want to hear a little bit more about sitka it's a weird place listen to that it'll help you a little bit more with this uh she is not seeking uh furthering education no prayer partners or any shit like that not interested in that shit uh she is only in for felony failure to appear two counts oh so i mean she had to appear for something to begin with that

was a felony but still she's not a murderer she's that's not bad she's getting out and she's getting out soon she is she's getting out in uh two years i think here yeah 2021 felony did not appear two years failure to appear two years on that i don't know what she got in that's a steep price it is steep yeah we don't know what she was doing ahead of time but maybe she's learned her lesson uh here is number two. That is a very close-up picture that she's doing there. Oh, boy. Hi. Yeah, hi. She's got short arms.

Oh, yeah. Hold the camera very close. Yeah, zoom it. My name is Tabitha. I'm 38 years old, and I'm from Columbus, Ohio. I'm 5'7 and 175 pounds. I have light brown hair and blue eyes with a curvy frame. I am very fun, bubbly, open-minded woman.

Yeah, they're all fun. Everyone's a fun. You're in prison. How much fun can you be? If you're interested in writing a prisoner, that's your kind of fun. That's what we get. This is fun. We know what fun you are.

Yeah, yeah. Yet serious when I need to be. Okay. All right. I enjoy laying on the beach, boating, fishing, movies, and I love trying new things. But they just cast a wide net. Yeah. They're like, what are rich guys like?

Boating, fishing, traveling. Yeah. What's a man's man? A guy that's going to be interested in a prisoner, what kind of shit does he do? Yeah. What's his deal? Fishing, boating. Fishing, boating.

He likes bubbly bitches. Bubbly and fun. Curvy. But serious when I need to be. If I need to be. You know what I mean. You know, if I need to beat one of your kids, curvy. But serious when I need to be. If I need to be. You know what I mean. If I need to beat one of your kids, I will. Family is one of the utmost importance to me.

One of the, I think she meant to say, is of the, and she put one in there. That's fine. She's in prison. She's from Ohio. And she's from Ohio. I have three wonderful daughters. I also believe education is very important. While incarcerated, I attended sinclair's college

for social work and i plan on becoming a chemical dependency counselor once released i'm very positive open-minded person you already said all that shit said you're fun and bubbly and open she said i'm fun very fun bubbly open-minded now she says i'm open-minded and looking forward to meeting new positive people who are also looking for the same i'm currently single but that could change if the right person came along or I get the right cellmate. Thank you for taking the time to read my profile. My bunkie's hot. That's right.

Sends out bigger fists. If you're looking for a great friend, I would love... Sorry. You were looking at me like you'd be a little fucker. That's gross. I would love to hear from you. Until then, take care. Bowtab with this.

She's a Gemini. Look at that here. Not willing to talk to anyone outside the US. She needs someone close by here. She's non-denominational. Her earliest release date, I think it passed here because it was January of 2020 was her earliest release date. Latest release date's only 2022.

Oh, she could be out now. Our girl could be out very soon, and she is incarcerated for two counts of drug trafficking and theft. Okay. So, I mean, that could be, you could work with that. I mean, I don't know.

I got kids. I got kids, man. You can't have that shit around, though. You can't be bringing these damn people around. Now, two more left here. Very interesting. Here's one there. As you can see,

she's got a nice... Oh, she's got some gray hair? What's happening there? No, no, that's like her picture. Oh, she's got it all shadowed out. And she has a big tattoo that says Felix above her eye.

All right. So that's helpful. She better explain who the fuck he is. No, her name's Brandy, so it's not her. She says, I'm a single white female

that's a bit wild and crazy. Well, no shit. I want to find someone to shine light into my darkness. Oh, boy. It's been a lonely highway to hell. Oh, my. This is getting great.

I'm open-minded with no limits to conversation. I'm a very loyal female that's also very independent. Yeah, I tattooed my ex-boyfriend's fucking name on my face. Above my eye.

That's as loyal as it comes. And I think there's a picture of him right below it. Lord, she had a portrait on her cheek? Yeah, just in case. No, you're the wrong Felix. Not that Felix. This Felix. Jesus, dick's hanging out.

I'm very different from anyone you'll ever meet. I doubt it. I love when people say that. Nope, lots of people just like you. You're not unique. Very different from anyone you'll ever meet. I doubt it. I love when people say that. Nope. Lots of people just like you. You're not unique. I'm wanting the Joker to my Harley Quinn. Oh, she's a nightmare.

Right away. Nightmare. Nightmare. I love to laugh and make others laugh. I need someone who can handle this princess of darkness. A sense of humor is a must. I love to travel, go to casinos, cook, and spend time with loved ones. Go to casinos? Who loves to go to casinos?inos nobody loves that that's old people or people that have to one of

the two you know who loves it desperate desperate people yeah who else goes who's in prison james people that were desperate you can j pay me but i can't j pay you i need an address to write you back write me i promise you will not be disappointed she's a libra uh she's 45 years old she's a horrifying 45 yeah they look they look tough she's divorced from taylor texas she's a baptist yeah hey she's looking for that she's bisexual yeah so she don't really care here you go into prison you're bisexual now uh earliest release date is 2022 oh my god that's terrifying latest is 2028 and uh she is incarcerated for forgery from an elderly individual oh you ass doll from old people ah you dick you are a fucking jerk next up i saved this one for last jimmy because i don't know why i just have a feeling

you're gonna like her oh yeah you're kind of. She looks like a girl that would wear a diaper and drive four states to be with you. Yeah, totally. You're kind of girl. Here is her profile. Hot off the press, a damsel in distress. All right. That's what it says with four exclamation points. She's got a sales pitch.

Help her. She's in need of saving. This hazel-eyed beauty goes by the name Felicia. Those close to her call her Fi. Okay, you can drop the third person now. We don't need a narrator. Drop it. Write it as yourself, Fee. She's a hopeless romantic

and loves to give. Makes other smiles and her favorite is laughing. Her heart is kind and gentle, but don't let it fool you. Her spice is hotter than a ghost pepper. Hell yeah. Oh boy. I'm back on board. The best parts about her, Jimmy, is her smile and. Hell yeah. Oh, boy. I'm back on board. The best parts about her, Jimmy,

is her smile and her long legs. Oh. Those eyes. Yeah. Dot, dot, dot. They will find your soul. Are you a hero? Please rescue her from this loneliness.

Okay. Please rescue me from this tower surrounded by barbed wire and barking dogs. Yeah. And so I looked into her a little bit yeah uh she's a gemini she's only 28 years old six two days her birthday's two days off from mine except in 1991 uh she's single blah blah blah um earliest release date february 7th 2041 what did you do latest release date 2066 holy shit said holy shit what the fuck did you do yeah second degree murder is what she did oh boy so i looked it up and figured out who the fuck she was yeah turns out uh down in florida that she was caught because there was people looking

at a used white chevy malibu Malibu for sale, a car. And the problem is this car is where her and her boyfriend murdered a man. And then they drove to Florida to hang out at the beach and try to sell the car to get rid of it. What? That's what they did. So the police took the car off the market and found it. They found it in St. Petersburg Beach, Florida with a for sale sign in the window. This was their evidence.

So they said the genesee county prosecutor said uh we didn't want our evidence sold this is from flint michigan so we bought it so we just got it so they believe that she was 17 at the time by the way when this was going on uh her boyfriend chris neely who was 19 and her philly uh felicia mccarty who's 17 took the malibu to flor Florida after killing a man named Herbert Nesbitt Biggs inside the car on the east side of Flint. They shot him in the car and then just pushed his body into the street and drove away. Yeah, the car was seen leaving the scene of where his body was found, and witnesses told

Flint police that Neely and McCarty were involved. They drove all the way across the fucking country. Yep, they did. They drove from michigan to florida the cops got word that they'd gone south there to st petersburg and uh they went and went down there uh neely uh they were they had a house down there they found it outside a house they put the house under surveillance and then when the two came outside they arrested them and impounded the malibu and uh yeah so they uh they said uh we'll we'll get them back here one way or another they're going to expedite them there warrants

are for felony murder conspiracy to commit felony murder and use of a firearm during a felony and mccarty is charged with carrying concealed weapon because she had the gun it's hers it was her she was carrying it when they left what an asshole so uh what do you think jimmy oh my god which of those four maybe i run with uh fee just because she sounds hot she is hot she's sweet she has great words and i'll never have to meet you'll never have to meet her never if you don't give her money she'll ditch you oh yeah she won't have anything to do with you there she'll be shacking up with uh the girl with felix on yeah what about tabitha our drug trafficker uh who loves to boat and fish and is curvy? What about her?

I do like that. That's good. But I can't have her around my kids with all her drugs. How about Sitka Alaskan Girl again? Remember her? I don't know. She wasn't that bad. She likes four-wheeling.

She's getting out soon, too. Swimming at the lake. I do like her. That's good. Yeah. Right? Those are good. She's a simple girl.

Failure to appear. That's all it is. That's all it is. But what's a failure to appear for? That's the thing. What do you go with, right? Those are good. She's a simple girl. Failure to appear. That's all it is. That's all it is. But what's a failure to appear for? That's the thing. What do you go with, Jimmy? Do you go with the early out and the failure to appear and a nicer thing? Or do you just say, fuck it, I'll go with the cold-blooded murderer and see what happens?

She is hot. One or four, Jimmy? One or four? She is hot. You eliminated two and three. One. One! Bachelorette number one, come on down.

Let's actually meet. Oh, man. one bachelorette number one come on down let's actually meet oh man no i what i want to do is is hook bachelorette number one and bachelor number one up together to be mr and mrs prison how great would that be a share of share of ramen noodles and a toilet whiskey it's gonna be romantic as shit more toilet wine pouring it with a ladle. There you are. So that's the prisoner dating game. Holy shit. What a day. We found Jimmy Love, which is wonderful. And we found love for these nice people and everything like that.

So that said, I hope you guys enjoyed another edition of the prisoner dating game. We need to get to shout out. I do. Jimmy, tell me. I need it. God damn it. It's a crazy long week and nutty things are happening. I need the list of the people who just we can't live without.

Hit me with them right now. This week's executive producers are John Buck, Tanya Volanek, Jordan Bennett, Alex Eicht, Ryan Sargent donated both ways. Thank you, Ryan. Thank you. Holy cow. Amy Spicer, Emmanuel Lemus, Simon Watts, Andrea Stanson, Raptor 1 to Raptor 2, happy birthday. That's what she wanted to be said.

Shannon Russell, Melissa Turner, Stan Bromley, Madison Hughes, Fartbox, not Madison Hughes' Fartbox, but Madison Hughes and Fartbox. Those are two different people. Well, both of them? Now, it's one thing if you get Madison Hughes, but when you get Fartbox and together, then you got something. David Baker, Jessica Smith, Wendy McGast's granddaughter turned two, and Jason Christensen, who is oh so important to Jessica and their kiddo Joey.

She's the one that was in the hospital. Oh, yeah. And then they have a son also. The four of them all listen to this. Wow, thank you. Thank you so much for everything you guys do for us. Other producers this week are Thomas Smith, Matt Gary, Randy Zamore, Beth Castro, Michelle Pierce, Mike Jewell, Casey Campbell, Jenny Phillips, Patrick O'Kane, Hannah Kirk, Kendall Passmore, Kirsten Jewell, Philip Jensen, Amanda with no last name, Amy Schultz, Ryan Ming, Stephen Henry, George Danfield. No, that is Banfield. Gregory Desroker.

Annette Konecki. No. Brett Schaefer. Braden Depart. Deputies. No. DeVries. Deverys.

Braden Devery. Okay. Sally Beetz. Rebecca Sanchez. Ashley Haik. James Bonavita. Dee DeVilleur, DeVilleur,

Ryan with no last name, Ashley Veo, Robin Anderson, Sarah Surridge, Shosana Hurtala, Carl Bittner, Peyton Meadows, Jackie Sukup, Andrew Mattili, Marissa Cole, Hannah Hart, James Martyr, Stephen Rood, Jude Kendall,

Gary Howard, Kevin Dobler, Tegan Boyko, Brooke Kale. She donated both ways. Thank you. Thank you. Listen, Brooke, you can't go assuming shit. There's one in the NBA. That's true.

Kingfisher Design, Liz Vasquez, Dominique Figuere, Steve Schnell, and with no last name, Rob Padola and all around fan Jory Reed Janice Hill Judy Jennings Matthew Wint Holly Glavinich I think

Glavich Scott Barr Hannah Simmons Keegan with no last name Thriller Jackson Jesse Pitts who by the way the fuck

thank you so much Jesse for everything thanks for sticking through yeah I would say so Nashville is a motherfucker right now even with all with all this stuff happening, and it's way worse there. Brandon Munchbach, Emily Hyatt, Jeremy DiPredo, Amanda Knight, John Hogan, Lori Bobskill,

Erin Edrington, Nicole with no last name, Josie Blake, Amanda Packard-Wilkie, Ashley O'Connor, Amanda Murray, Jesus, Tyler Gwill, Nicole Watson, Tracy Renninger, Trey Volkanar, and moving on. You guys are so amazing. You guys are so awesome to us. Thank you. Bobby Freedom, Katie Wood, Aaron Wamek, Darcy Meyer, Daniela Ibarra, Madison Rae Hall, Diane Saladino, Rachel Ann with no last name, Teresa with no last name, Snowden with no last name, Al, you're the best, Al. Hey, you're the best, Al.

Alex Taylor, Don Brostek, Randy Barano, Jonathan Gorostetta, Jennifer Swan, Rhiannon Garrett, Paul Buchanan, Gene Seguin, Steven Heather, Lynn Thurston, Thurston, Thurston? Oh, don't know. Brandon Wood, Andrew Johnson, like the president, that I learned is the president. Christy Foster, Philippa, no, Bettany, Philippi, Philippa, Bettany, hmm. Alex, Alexis, believe it or not, I read these and then wrote them down.

Yeah, I was going to say, you've had two different ways. Two different ways. Alexis Westerhaus, Rebecca Shekoski, Shekoski, Sheakisk. One of those. Damian Blomley, Wicked Counselor, Lindsay Glenn, Dwayne Lerman, Nicole Auld, Foo Fam, that's a person, Jeremy Meadows, Edgar Cordera, Gracie Butterfield, Molly Chapman, Shelley Reynolds, Lana with no last name jennifer boone no that's bond bone it's two ends don't don't look at me danielle del philippe

there's no reason i should have said that like that precious benjamin a gate malaria agate uh alexandra reed jonathan huff chris melinger melinger melinger uh chris hickey chris wonderlay Alexandra Reed, Jonathan Huff, Chris Malinger, Chris Hickey, Chris Wunderlay, Nick Rice, Michelle Mixel, Sean Jennings, Dan Limonde, Graciela Martinez, Maddie Paraguay, probably not Prangley, Haley Mager, Gary Smith, Randy Otis, Ann Evans, Anna Evans, Joy Schwant, I think I said that, Caitlin Mitchell, Richard Mondragon, D.L. No, that's Dr. Smith Aroa. Dr. Smith Aroa. That's one name. Raven Goad, Caitlin Mitchell, Jessica

Jones, Christopher Miller, Chopper and Emily, Michael Caso? No? What did I write? Sorry, Michael Caso, no, Caso? What did I write? Sorry, Michael. Cas, no. It's probably not right.

Jennifer Kolb, Josh Branco, Emily Carter, Kimberly Thompson, Jennifer Caseland, Joyce Adams, Eric Raposo, Angela Sorensen, yeah. Angel Espinosa, Marissa Byrne. Kristen with no last name. M. Din. M. Diane. Din Flanny. Flansbury.

No. Yes. Trent Tudor. Miranda Land. Him. Me. Me. Him.

Him. Me. Sorry. Frista Kyle Lamke. Krista. Not Frista. Why would I say Frista? Krista's more likely. Robin Mossop.

Benjamin Henderson. Emily Brewster. Last. Here we go. Jackie Bay. Nikki. No. Kiki. why would i say frista christ is more likely robin mose up benjamin henderson emily brewster last here we go jackie bay nicky no kiki i think that's kiki k-i-k-k-i yeah yeah kiki probably kiki emily peters samatha samantha not samatha hey samatha how you doing samatha wow poor samatha coleman raspity no bassity cassidy oh it's a c oh shannon grim megan skinner stack jericho jessie jessie ricky spaminor some more spominor no those are not close to each other i don't know what i did emily sullen stephanie no steven steven beaston god damn it reverend doc john karpash john karpash he's a reverend doctor uh amanda amanda boerschmidt bowerschmidt jennifer bigelow uh jim kirk evan

henderson sarah catherine nela nila crawford felicia star i think my height my voice goes Jennifer Bigelow, Jim Kirk, Evan Henderson, Sarah Catherine, Naila Crawford, Felicia Starr. I think my voice goes higher when I don't know. Heather Carson, Jennifer Rogers, Gershjvon Kempion. No. Robert Schwartz, Carrie Grocery. No. Go-Gurdy? Go-Gurdy.

Go-Gurdy. That's gross. Like Go-Gurdy? Why? Yes. Go-Gurdydy please don't be gogerdy carrie rose please don't mike ingram casey cruz joyce ridzik uh ridzik uh sarah wedley jordan with no last name angelise annalise with no last name jessica with no last name anna with no last name josh and or josh ort Bellamy, Kiva Hartfield, Lauren, what is this, with no last name.

She would like a shout out, but she didn't give a last name. She was wondering, how do I get my name in there, as she donated and then didn't give us a last name. Lauren. Lauren. We've said it. Hey. Hi, Lauren. we've said hey hi lauren uh michael lefley jonathan barber uh joanne gilbert michael duarte andy smith jen oh jenny oh like the meat stephanie garrison troy lindsey ashley

drid drid dridgenberg brett with no last name eileen uh oka oka cella uh jamie lund london brett with no last name james markham uh William Carsey, I said that, Carlos Calwood, Calwood, I don't know what that is, Aaron Bluey, Michael Chumley, Robin with no last name, Shannon Kinney-Jenner with no last name, Kevin Van Dorn or Dern, Danny Cav or Cave, Stevan, no, Devon, Devon or Devon Stewart. Listen, I had two friends and i in i've had devons and devon yeah there was a black kid and a white kid in the same class one named devon one named devon and i always fucked it up i could tell you which is which i always mixed up i'd be like devon he's

like come on man come on i was gonna say uh abby abby anderson spencer klein carl carl anderson uh brandy foster kelly schmidt tara pratt thomas brian rick brunt brant amber scarlet whore beast lane uh cameron mitchell brenda with no last name e p k second second sayaka sayaka yeah yeah cool probably uh site Prescott. Yep. Cool. Probably. No. Sayaka Matasara Matsukawa. That's it. Awesome. Just slow down, Wisman. Christina Cobb, I think. Josh Puckerbrush.

Kimberly with no last name. Barbara Miller. Jen Harrington. Kalt or K-A-L. Kate. That's what that is. K-A-I-T. See how that works?

Hey. Courtney Diziak. Blanca Singh, Morgan Rocky, Austin Van Vleck, Sarah Felix, Ryan Fields, Felix, no, Felice Stewart, Joanna Dennis, and Home Stretch. My goodness. Here we go. You ready? I'm going to do this really fast. Sarah Wedley, Mark with no last name, Kevin Koch, Eric with no last name, Jesse Johnson, You ready? I'm going to do this really fast. Jackie Paulson, Sarah, no, that's Jason, Ulcith, Daniela Ibarra, Lee Furlonger, Jeff Bowman, Mary, no, Megan Reba, Hope Rodriguez, Beth Grievenstein, Flores, no, Natalie Meyer, Lorraine Cowell, no, Jean Ramsey, Adrian Jackson, Jonathan Claymans, Julie Miller, Stacey Elms, Meredith Miller, Beth Dester, Kelsey Neal,

Diane Hasteldean's, no, it's Dylan Hazeltine's birthday. Happy birthday, Dylan, that I called Diane. Ryan O'Connor, Chelsea Acamano, Chad Roberts, Penny Boyce, Christy Cottrell, Kim Blevins and Drake, thank you both, CGB, Donald O'Ryan, Christina Smith, Christy Hudson, no, Knudson, Michael Bollinger, Bethany Whitaker, Beth Smith, Christy Hudson, no, Knudsen, Knudsen, Michael Bollinger, Bethany Whitaker, Beth Dester, I said that already, Reed Polk, Courtney Sladziky, Sean Fury, Aaron with no last name, Ryan Stafford, Renee, oh, that's an R, Renee, Renee McLeod, Edward Daniel Smith, Daniel, sorry.

Yeah, there you go. Matt Newberg, Philip DeFleutel, Adrian Tobias, Susie Egan, Blair Dunham, Rurd Gould, Rachel Schultz, Tora Schokla, Torska Varka, Corrine Krause, Patrick Sharp, Zoe Bednasak, Aaron Clancy, Dana Stairs, and Tinas Yo. You guys, and all of our goddamn Patreon supporters, you guys are amazing, especially the ones that I don't know what the name is. And I have to add this on to the shoutouts. You've heard Jimmy Reed. Yeah.

We've had a lot of people say like, for a bonus episode, you should do a thing where you guys switch places. That'd be really fun. You don't want that. I get what you're saying.

I get that that would be funny. There's some allure. We have. One time, Jimmy was going to be, I said, you read the copy for this ad and it's a minute and a half ad

and it took him seven minutes. To not get it right. And it was never all the way through. It wasn't like he got it in one take in seven minutes to get it right and it was never all the way through it wasn't like he got it one take in seven minutes he finally got all the words out in seven minutes no no it's not gonna happen it'll take us a week to record this thank you everybody honestly thank you thank you we know shit is crazy right now and and things are tight for people and you know we get it that's we're you see live shows

falling like dominoes we're bleeding also we understand it's your pain thank you guys for for guys just some of you guys have just said you know what i'm going to give them extra and she's like that's crazy we just can't thank you enough just for even thinking of us at all thank you so much that's kind of why we're doing the stevie thing we just want to say thank you and just give back to everybody our whole audience anybody who wants to to say thank you and just give back to everybody, our whole audience, anybody who wants to watch it. If you don't give a shit, you don't give a shit. But anybody who...

We understand. Anybody who wants to watch it and see us lose our minds laughing at Rednecks. And it's on Amazon Prime. It's free on Prime. So if you have Amazon, you can watch along with us. Yeah, you can watch along with us. We'll tell you when to queue it up and we'll all watch it together. So the moments are happening as they're happening and everything.

So we'll have to tell Jimmy to pee ahead of time because otherwise i'll have to pee 14 times i may have to get up in the middle it'll happen and that'll be fine i'm allowed won't be the end of the world then i'll talk shit about you while you're gone you won't even know it'll be perfect there's no replay oh no so uh yeah thank you guys for everything you do for us jimmy what if they wanted to say anything to you thank you you picked the wrong prisoner anything like that how could they do it you can find me at whisman sucks whisman sucks on twitter instagram and uh facebook but it's gone yeah it's all we're full on there and uh the mayor of uh of danbury yes thank you so much for recommending us that was very very kind of you uh mark boughton is his name or is it bofton it's b-a-b-o-u-g-h-t-o-n that's to be boff or bouton or bought sure vote

for him though he's fucking vote and i've heard move to danbury and vote for him man too that's what i'm told so i i don't know him personally this is what let's take it also i just want to say uh sarah out there from 90 day fiance our friend uh quickest recovery to you please uh stay in there and stand strong. Hang in there. We're all rooting for you over here, so hang in there. And that said... Where can they find you?

You can find me at JimmyPIsFunny or just copy and paste my last name, my first and last name from the show description and look me up that way. You can find me and we'll do that. You can all look me up on Instagram tomorrow because I'll have to do it because of this stupid goddamn stream shit.

So we'll do that. We'll run it off the show's page but that's all technical you don't need to know that that's fine we'll get through it this we'll get through it until next week everybody it's been our pleasure Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Small Town Murder early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. Or you can listen early and ad-free with Wondery Plus and Apple Podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at wondery.com slash survey.