SmartLess - "Jennifer Aniston"
Episode Date: September 28, 2020The one-and-only Jennifer Aniston joins us for a surprise-hang amongst true friends. We learn about The Businesstry, junk-food confidence, Fear & Courage... and (when it comes down to it)... how the sausage is madePlease support us by supporting our sponsors!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hey everybody, you're listening to Smart List hosted by Jason Bateman, Will Arnett, and myself, Sean Hayes.
I know, I wish my voice was more masculine too.
This show is about learning through laughter in the brains of people around the world who are far smarter than us three idiots.
And each week, one of us brings on a guest who the other two don't know about.
So with that, let's jump into the Smart List rocket ship and let's blast off into the universe together.
Ooh, I think I just turned myself on.
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Do you guys still game? Like, are you gamers?
Yeah. Uh-uh.
You aren't?
Absolutely not.
Because Will, you tried to get me gaming like 75 years ago and I like played one round with you.
Such a little, many, many years ago and I was like, I'm out. I can't figure it out.
But Scotty is obsessed with Mario Kart like on his phone.
Wisconsin listener, that is Sean's husband.
Yeah, so that's been Scotty.
Right. Okay. So listen, I recorded him. This is just like a half hour ago.
Getting really upset at the Mario Kart.
What are you supposed to do in the game?
I said that all I'm supposed to do is to hit these big, huge, giant mushrooms while I'm driving on the course and I keep missing all of them.
How does that make you feel?
Pretty upset because I'm better than that.
Wow.
And here's the disturbing part is that he didn't know you were recording him.
So that's the real, that's your real world that you're living in.
That kind of hostility.
And I love how Kurt, he got with, I said that.
Yeah, you're dealing with a real short fuse and a guy who doesn't like employment clearly, right?
This middle of the day.
He was working all day actually.
But he was, I was just tickled about how upset he gets at this little children's game.
Sean and I went on a trip to Istanbul.
We've been on a couple of vacays.
Jason, I remember you got real hurt about it before.
That's why I'm bringing it up again.
The point is the whole way there and back and that from LA to Istanbul is like a 13 hour flight or something.
Sean played Candy Crush both ways.
Yeah.
Oh, sure.
And I slept the whole way.
I woke up right before we were landing and stuff and Sean was just up.
So we do the things we're both good at.
I'm good at strategy and you're good at sleeping.
All right.
So first of all, do you guys get, are you more relaxed when you are hosting the guest
or are you more relaxed when you're in the blind?
Like you two guys are today because today's my guest.
In the blind.
Much more relaxed.
You don't get anxiety that like, what if the person that is the guest is somebody that either you're not interested in
or you know nothing about and you don't know what to ask?
Which gives you more stress?
I think it's kind of exciting.
It's exciting.
Except both are exciting.
I like meeting people that we all know.
So you're excited right now is what you're saying?
I'm very excited.
I'm so excited that I'm not willing to stand up.
Oh, well, temper that temper that because this is not, this is not one of our more attractive guests.
It's a good thing that a listener can't see this person.
They, they're certainly not known for their looks or their talent or kindness.
But if you were a fan of, let's say projects like Mac and me, or if you're a kitschy horror fan, you loved her in leprechaun.
Ladies and gentlemen.
By the way, I am a fan of leprechaun.
Well, then you should be just tickled.
Stay seated, Sean.
Don't stand up and show her.
No way.
Ladies and gentlemen, Jennifer Aniston.
No.
Hi, Jen.
No.
Wow.
You know what?
First of all, let me just say, Jen, you're gorgeous.
Jason, even in jest, don't ever say that about a lady.
She's gorgeous.
You're terrific, Jen.
So I take.
God bless.
Please, Jason, pretend.
Dare you.
Poor Jen.
She's tough to look at.
Can you turn your camera off, please?
Yes.
Hold on.
No.
Let me do that.
One of the more.
Are you, are you still, how many years were you the most beautiful people in the world?
Oh, please.
It must be.
I did 10 years.
I want to know what you're eating.
What is that right there?
It's Jason Bateman's favorite.
Is that the chopped salad?
Oh, my God.
Oh, that's so nice.
It might have some feta cheese in there.
You got the chicken in that?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And the Aniston dressing?
Yeah.
God, it's so good.
Got it all, babe.
By the way, every time I've been to your house, you're eating a chopped salad.
I know.
Every single time I'm eating a chopped salad.
Yeah.
There's always a chopped salad ready in case you want.
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Because I've had it many times.
Here's one of the things.
And I brought this up the other day that Jason loves to, as we know, he loves to eat almonds.
And he's always like picking at nuts and whatever.
And whatever Amanda lets him eat.
Yeah.
Just like little berries off the ground and stuff.
But when he comes to your house, he loves eating your jars of candy.
Because for some reason he feels like he didn't buy it so it doesn't count.
Right.
So he stands next to the M&Ms and he hammers them.
And I'm like, what are you doing, dude?
I just get so excited that there's jars of candy.
I don't know if I've ever seen you hammer the M&Ms like that.
I'm sneaky with it.
Kid who escaped from Fat Camp.
He's just there.
I follow my daughters in there and we just take down a whole bunch of it.
You know, the word for his kids, they'd believe, I think all of your kids actually, I don't know if your, well, your kids ever bought it, but that there's a camera looking at the candy jars.
So that they are terrified to actually steal candy without their mother or father knowing.
That's smart.
And it works.
Maple's the only believer actually.
Yeah.
By the way, like the Bateman girls are afraid of Jason.
I mean, let's be honest, right?
I do enjoy playing good cop.
Well, I think Amanda and I are pretty good at switching off back and forth between good cop, bad cop.
I would ask that to the group.
What would you say about that?
What about you and Amanda?
No, about like, do I come across and Jen, this is your interview, we're going to get to you in a second.
I want you to tell me.
I'm trying to pull up my script for Mack and me just to see.
Yeah.
Oh God.
It was so good.
That was your first film, right?
Please.
Come on.
1987.
Yeah.
Listen.
I sat on a blanket in the background.
Is that in my Wikipedia page?
Yeah.
I am the worst interview in the world.
It's all Wikipedia for me.
They're just conversation starters.
Oh my God.
But wait, but let's wrap me up for one second.
Sure.
Of course.
We'd love to wrap you.
Let's wrap you up in a tiny bow.
You were wrapped about 10 years ago, Bates.
Do I strike you as a disciplinarian or permissive?
I would like to answer that.
I think Amanda, because she's a strong, incredibly wonderful woman.
I just assume she's the enforcer.
You're the enabler.
Yup.
Because you're very sweet.
I worry about Amanda.
I sometimes feel like what's going to end up taking her life is she's going to one
time just roll her eyes into the back of her head and they're never going to come back.
It's going to be an eye rolling incident.
And that's what's going to finally take her.
All right.
All right.
Guys, we have Jennifer Aniston.
Come on now.
I know.
Let's tighten it up.
All right.
Listen.
Now let me tell you what Wikipedia has yielded here.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Go ahead.
Well, congratulations on your baby, Willie.
Thanks, Jen.
Thanks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's doing great.
That's amazing.
I congratulated him on that he made one.
Sean, you haven't done anything.
Okay.
Hi, Sean.
Hi, honey.
How are you?
Good.
How are you doing?
Good.
I'm a listener and I don't know you.
Like what would I ask you if we, right?
I know.
And so when I'm over your house, there's, it's so warm and friendly and it feels like home
and that sounds really cheesy to say it, but it feels like, yeah, this is, it's so easy.
Like you live there.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I could totally live there.
Yeah.
So I want to know like when you have gatherings like that is, is that fulfilled something
in you that you like, because you don't have kids.
It's like, because I do that too sometimes.
I love to entertain.
Yes.
And I love to light fires whilst entertaining.
You're being very modest and Sean is making a point which Jason will concur with because
he spends even more time there with, with you, but I've spent a lot of time at your house
as well.
You're very warm and you do love to entertain.
You love having people over.
And you're very maternal.
You're like instinctually maternal.
And your friends are like family and you have a lot of parties around a lot of holidays
and you get a lot of people together.
And I agree with Sean.
It's always a really good feeling being there.
You always feel very welcome.
There are a lot of laughs.
Everything's about laughing and having a good time.
Yeah.
And I've never left there being like, fuck those guys.
Like, you know what I mean?
It's always been, I mean about Bateman.
Horrible.
About Jason for sure, cause he always leaves early before Amanda as we know.
I like to clear out.
Can we just bust you on that?
Can we blow up your spot?
Jason likes to leave places about 90 minutes earlier than his wife.
Well, that's why we take two cars to Jen's often.
Often we take two cars.
Yeah.
Because unless you're on vacation with him, then he can't leave you.
Then we're, then we're just stuck with him.
No, but you pull some good late nights when we're, I mean late night, what midnight?
That's a pretty late night.
But it is true, Jen.
You have so many friends and just so many, and you have so many good friends.
You don't have just a lot of like sort of haphazard friends.
No.
You have really close relationships with people, a lot of one-on-one relationships.
You're good to a lot of people.
You're very sweet.
And it's a testament to somebody about how the quality of their friends and that you
have really great friends.
Would you guys agree?
Yes, I would agree.
I would even agree with that.
I don't mean that.
I'm not complimenting myself.
I mean, I am.
Well, you are.
I think this is really a plug for Will and being a great friend and being a really good
God.
Welcome to the podcast.
Jen, did you grow up in a house that had a lot of entertaining going on?
And was it always sort of nurturing and kind of like a fun, warm place to have a bunch
of friends over?
Or is that something that is wholly yours and came as a result of a particular period in
your life?
A period of time where my parents, when we had moved to New York City and my dad was
on a soap opera after we'd kind of been struggling for a while, you know, we were, my dad didn't
really hit it the way he wanted to.
So then we moved to Greece and then he was trying to go to medical school there.
How long did you live in Greece?
I lived in Greece for a year.
Wow.
I lived in Athens for six months and then Crete for six months.
Wow.
I didn't know that.
Wow.
Really?
It's not on my wiki page.
No.
Maybe it's on the...
Dancing on Checker's Gravis.
There it is.
Page six.
There it is.
There it is.
Greece.
Oh, look at you.
Oh, I didn't know you fish.
It's a great picture of you pulling up a lobster trap.
Yeah.
No.
No, look for the sheep.
Look for me.
There should be one of me milking a sheep.
I love that your dad said, fuck it to the acting business.
We're going to Greece and I'm becoming a doctor.
Yeah.
Isn't that crazy?
Those crazy Greeks.
Well, that didn't happen.
So then he...
He'd go back to New York.
He moves us to New York.
So we'd start out in California, born here, Sherman Oaks, Stern Avenue, right around
the corner from Casa Vega.
Remember we talked about that.
Oh, yeah.
I love that.
Yeah.
And then we moved and then we went to Greece and then he got a job on a soap opera, Love
of Life.
And the rest was the beginning of history.
Yeah.
How long was he on that soap opera for?
He was on that soap, I want to say for maybe five years and Christopher Reeves played his
son on that show.
So they would have poker parties.
They would have poker nights and there was always that sound of laughter and they'd put
me to bed and I would kind of always crawl out of the bedroom, down the hall to just
sort of peek around the corner and just watch all these people being fabulous and hearing
like ices and clanking and glasses and laughing and la-ha-ha.
I grew up very similarly.
Yeah.
So that sort of, I guess I kind of thought, and then it all crumbled and the family broke
apart.
By the way, same.
So yes, I'm still trying to recreate those happy moments in my life.
Is this the point of this whole thing is you're trying to make me cry?
You thankful you had a happy day.
You thankful you had one day.
So the seed was planted that adults entertain.
I like that.
All right.
Yeah.
It was nice.
They have fun.
They were having a good time.
One of the other things that interested me here, I'm going to skip right over friends
and I'm going to go to the four-year hiatus that followed friends and preceded your return
to film work in 96.
So have this right?
Oh, you were a film.
Are you a film actress?
What?
She sure is.
Oh.
What did you do?
I did a four-year gap after friends and before you started film work.
Is that right?
Absolutely not.
No?
That is incorrect.
Jason.
Who wrote this thing?
Well, did you write this?
The last name is Wikipedia.
I do not know his first name.
Well, Mr.Pedia needs some wiki.
All right.
Here's my favorite part about this.
Before you answer, Jen, I just want to cut off because I want you to know that listener
in Wisconsin that right after this, Jen's going to go and say to Amanda, like, Jason asked
me this stupid question and he didn't even, and he asked me if I took a four-year gap,
which you should, you were well within your right, and then Amanda's going to go, Jason,
what the fuck?
You asked her and you said this, Jen, a four-year gap, and Jason is going to get it.
And you deserve to be smashed.
I wanted to know what is it on purpose.
You want to, like, go back to Greece for four years or something, get it back.
This is where, this is now goes back to the podcast that I loved so much where you talked
about all the mirrors being put up and the amount of time it took Jason to ask the question.
Well, see, that's why we call it smart list.
I'm not a smart guy.
I'm not a great interviewer.
That's not true.
No, I'm not.
I'm wicked.
Well, right now, you're really, you're, this is, we're pushing it right now, but, but
I've been, by the way, a huge fan of this podcast.
Can I just say that?
Come on.
Well, we're a fan of yours.
Well, that's just not about me right now.
It is, actually.
This is about you and how good of an interviewer all of you are, and I've enjoyed it thoroughly.
Now, I took, let me explain to you, because you were in my first movie that preceded Friends,
which was called.
Leprechaun?
The Breakup.
The Breakup was the first film after Friends?
Yes.
All right.
Once Friends completed, we rolled right into Chicago, remember?
And you were in, you were in that film.
I do remember being in that film.
I loved that film.
That was a great film.
So you made all of those movies while you were on Friends, all those other movies, like,
I don't know.
Leprechaun and Mcamey?
No.
Okay, let's just stop, just stop talking about those two movies.
Okay.
Those were.
No, like Bruce Almighty and all those other movies.
Yes, that was during Friends.
Wow.
You just never took a break.
I didn't.
And I liked it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I really enjoy working.
What about now?
Well, I've been on this weird, you know, guys, I haven't really left the house lately.
I don't know about you guys.
What happened?
I have not been working lately.
It's very strange.
Wait a minute.
That because of the pandemic and because of the downtime, did you, is that a thing that
you enjoy being forced upon you, the break, or are you like going crazy and rather work?
I really leaned into the break, I have to say, I kind of, if someone says, no, you actually
cannot go to work and you just have to stay home.
That's like a happy birthday.
But yeah, there have been these interesting ups and downs of moments where you just like
feel this anxiety and of course it's because you've watched the news or you see what's
going on in the world and it is absolutely devastating and unthinkable.
Yeah, I had to turn it off after a while.
You have to, but...
And it also feels so impotent to help, right?
Like they're asking us to help by being passive.
Stay in your house is the best thing you can do.
And it's like, okay, if I do go out, I wear a mask, like that's all, I mean, I see all
these people working so hard to save all these lives and everything, it's like, wow.
And look at them.
It feels unfair.
I know.
But I kind of feel like at this point that weirdly just sort of by luck because you have
to that finally, like Jason, for instance, that finally something good is happening
with like make a virtue out of necessity, like in your case, your impotence now is really
valuable.
Yeah.
It's valuable to be impotent.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are you finding that as a big asset?
All right.
Or you can learn from it.
Yeah.
No, finally it's, I don't feel quite as bad.
Everyone's in the same boat as me now.
How about this?
How about what's the closest you ever got to quitting?
The business?
Yeah.
Great question.
The business?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, that's good.
I don't, oh, I would have to say the last two years that has crossed my mind, which
it never did before.
Really?
Why is that?
Because you feel satisfied?
No.
Or before you started the morning show, you mean?
Before the morning show.
It was after a job I had completed and I was like, whoa, that was really, that sucked.
The life out of me.
And I don't know if this is what interests me.
And I had this fantasy of just sort of, what if you just, you know.
Was it a creative sort of wall that you hit or was it more about like the people you were
working with or was it just sort of like over it all?
It was an unprepared project, you know, that was, we've all been a part of them and you
always say, I'll never again, never again.
Part of one right now.
I will never back up into a start date, you know.
Right, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Lack of organization.
And the script isn't ready.
And then you're stuck there for three months.
Stuck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or so.
This is why I always sort of push you into directing because you are so professional
and you are so responsible and you are so aware of how the sausage is made and could
provide great leadership for that large group of people it takes.
I just, I'm just a big fan of your abilities.
I hope that you jump into that chair more.
I would love to jump into that chair more.
I enjoy it thoroughly and I think it's.
I would love to see you making some sausage.
Yeah.
Let me just, just for what it's worth.
Just from a distance, yeah.
From a distance.
I do have to say, don't you love, Jason's metaphors are just fantastic.
Pack of casing.
They're incredible.
I often wonder where he collects them because I know he collects them and then he distributes
them.
It's a little spiral book.
Wrinkles.
Yeah.
Do you store them?
Like where are they?
Yeah.
That's why that hair is so thick.
How good is his hair?
How good is Jason's hair?
I know.
We haven't talked about it in a few episodes.
I'm so glad we're back to me again.
Okay.
So anyway.
I wanted to ask about that because I think a lot of people when they've been in the
business a long time kind of toy with, well, gosh, Wisconsin listener, we mean show business.
Keep going.
Sean.
Business tree.
The business tree.
The business tree.
That we've gotten a lot out of it and well, we put a lot into it too, but that we come
towards a crossword kind of where we're like, gosh, if I could do something, what else would
I do?
And could I leave this all behind?
Because a lot of people, like we were talking about before in another episode that we love
when actors announce their retirement.
Yeah.
Right?
And never do it.
It's like, don't ever say you're quitting smoking, don't, don't see your retirement.
Don't do that.
Anything.
Right.
But what would that other thing be that if you had to pick something else?
Interior design, probably.
Interior design, you're very good at that.
Yeah.
You'd be good at that.
Yeah.
I love it.
It's my happy place.
It's really a happy place for me.
Do you do it for other people?
Do you ever like have friends who are like, hey, you know what?
I know you didn't ask me, but let me help you with that.
I'm not that kind of person.
But I think it.
Yeah.
I've also offered help to people where they say, come over and just help me with this.
And I go, well, first of all, that's got to go.
And they're like, no, I can't.
I love that.
That's my husband.
Yeah.
Which is usually where I start, by the way.
That's Jason.
Because that's usually what happens.
That's Jason.
That's the problem.
Can I ask you another regular person question?
You don't want me to go back into the Wikipedia stuff?
Why didn't you do leprechaun too?
Was it the script where you're not happy with the script?
When I was a kid, I loved that movie.
I loved that movie.
Don't say when you were a kid ever to me again, ever.
Okay.
Sorry.
We're the same age.
Oh yeah.
That's right.
That's when you made it, right?
15, 16?
No, it was 21.
Oh, never mind.
Smart enough to know better.
What is the most favorite job you've ever had?
You're like, if you think about it, you're like, oh my God, I wish every job could be
like that.
I laughed so much.
I made some friends.
I still connect, blah, blah, blah.
I've had a lot of them.
So many.
Yeah.
All right.
Next question.
Kidding.
Kidding.
Might allow more than one answer.
Yes.
I loved, well, obviously friends.
That's a no-brainer.
It's got to be number one, right?
Yeah.
That's all family.
I would have to say that's number, that would be number one.
I always loved shooting with Sandler.
Yeah.
He's the dynamics man.
Just go with it.
It was super fun.
We shot it in Hawaii.
So that was half of why that was incredibly fun and, you know, we've known each other
since we were 19, so.
How many films have you done with?
You've done three with him, I want to say?
Two.
Two.
Two, right?
One with the murder mystery, and then just that was it?
Mm-hmm.
So break it down.
So let me ask you this then.
Obviously friends.
Doing another one though.
You're doing another one with Sandler?
Mm-hmm.
That's great.
That's great.
That's so good to hear.
So obviously friends, it's like the number one, and we get it why, and you guys get along
so great, and you're all still friends in real life, which is so awesome, and all those
people are really great people, and it's like Jason said, it's a family.
What was your favorite film that you made that you felt the most, and not to disparage
any of the other ones?
Mm-hmm.
It's not sort of like ranking them.
It's more like the experience times, how you thought it came out, and how proud you were
of it.
What I got from the experience.
Yeah, what you got from it.
Yeah.
I think you could just go ahead and speak it in the mic.
That'd be great.
I was told very clearly how far just.
We're getting great level from her.
Am I too loud?
No, we're so good.
Because I tend to scream on these things.
Yeah.
How is your sippy there going?
Yeah, Sean, it's like the microphone is.
He couldn't even move to the side for that sippy.
It was like.
You're like competing.
Like the water's got to compete with the microphone for your mouth.
Like Jesus.
Listener, Sean has a tremendously large microphone in front of his face.
He does.
It's like a cartoon.
It's like a cartoon.
So Jen, what was your, what was that favorite, though?
What was that movie that you did that you were like, yes?
I would have to say personally it was the movie Cake.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
It was great.
Even though that was incredibly hard work.
You were fantastic in that movie.
Fantastic.
So good.
Thank you.
So great.
Yes.
Appreciate it deeply, deeply.
That was an experience that was creatively fulfilling because all of my, everything
I imagined as an actor I would be completely afraid of and suck at.
I didn't so bad.
Yeah.
I'll say.
Any truth to the rumor that the sequel Pie is in the works?
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
By the way, easiest audience, those are my favorite jokes.
Sean is the easiest audience on the planet.
I will FaceTime Sean sometimes twice a day because I'll be like, this is a dumb bit.
Alexander's not laughing.
Nobody around here, but you know who's going to laugh at this.
So stupid.
But wait, I want to say, I want to say, because now you've experienced and excelled and like
nobody's business in all areas of show business, movies and TV and everything else.
Not musicals yet.
Not musicals, but you sang amazing on Morning Show.
I loved that.
I texted you after.
I was like, oh my God, that was so great.
But would you ever want to do, do you ever miss the schedule of a sitcom and would you
ever want to do one again?
Every day.
Every single day.
The best schedule ever.
Really.
It's the best schedule ever on the planet.
So you would do another one.
If I knew it would be the same experiences I'd had with those guys, yes, and I doubt
that will ever happen.
Yeah.
No, it won't happen that way.
But I remember when I was doing that, the, we were doing The Millers with Jimmy Brose.
With Jimmy Brose.
Yeah.
And like every weekend and we'd be, and you'd always be like, oh my God, like you just wanted
to know.
I was so envious.
I wanted to be there.
I visited the set a couple times.
You came and visited the set.
Yeah.
Who else was on that show?
Well, with you.
You.
Oh, that's right.
You.
Sean.
Well done, Sean.
I was going to say you looked so much like the guy who did it.
Come here.
It was you, of course.
And Margot Martin.
Wasn't Margot on that?
Margot.
Margot Martin.
Margot Martindale.
Love, worship.
The three of us.
How hard did we laugh?
How fun is she?
We laughed.
I cried laughing.
She's a cry, make you cry laughing kind of girl.
I did another movie with her actually.
Oh, management with Steve Zahn.
Another funny, very talented man.
Steve Zahn.
Very funny guy.
Oh.
You changed gear to an emotional thing, I suppose.
I want to talk about fear.
Oh, shit.
Oh, I love that.
Just speaking from, we're all actors here and I'm sure many of our listeners are not
if they know it's good for them.
But how fear affects you with respect to success and what was your fear like before you found
success and what is your fear like now post-success?
Like, how have you found, I guess I'm couching all this and your success is gone is what
you're saying.
No, you're such a generous, happy, warm person and you're an incredible actor, but you can't
fake that.
So that's coming from a place of security.
That's a place of not a ton of fear or at least it's healthy fear in certain areas.
How has that changed?
Have you always been like that?
Because success is a really complicated thing.
Fame is a complicated thing.
And somehow you've managed to keep that warm, wonderful, safe, trusting side of you intact
when a lot of people with your level of success and fame are not trusting.
And actually the fear becomes increased, but you seem to have kept yourself from that.
Well, I think all of us are kind of lucky that we found our success before the internet
and before social media.
And I think there was, I don't think I ever really had fear.
I don't think I had fear.
I mean, I had fear of other irrational things, you know, like, as you know, flying.
You do.
You hate flying.
Oh, hate it.
Why?
Because it's too heavy and it doesn't make sense.
And yet it gets off the ground.
It goes and then it stays there.
I know there's all the things and I've been, it's irrational.
It's control.
I don't have any fear of flying.
Why?
Why?
You mean why?
Because that big piece of metal going in the sky at 500 miles an hour, that's why, man.
That's why.
Yeah.
And I've also had some pretty scary flight experiences, but anyway.
But so those fears, I also was the one person to remember when we were on an airplane to
a surprise trip for my birthday and we'd lost a wheel, I was the only one not afraid and
everyone else's in tears writing emails and notes to their family.
And I'm thinking.
Did that surprise you?
That you kind of clicked into a mother hand there and was strong for everybody?
What I realized was, oh, just how irrational my fear is of flying because here we are in
a moment where there could actually be something going terribly wrong and I have complete faith
in our pilot.
I have complete faith in what's happening.
Right.
And I'm not done, Sean.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I get excited.
I know I can see that.
So my girlfriend, Dre and Kristen, we, the three of us, were like, we're not afraid.
And Courtney, who is like her dad's a pilot, she's never afraid.
Molly, Amanda, Amanda's like, I'm not going down on the plane, my dad.
And so that's irrational.
That was that insight into that.
But in terms of the business, it takes a lot of work to maintain everything that you said
because I don't want to ever lose that.
I don't want to stop trusting people.
And I see how it can happen.
And I've had reason to.
I've had all sorts of not great things happen to me where your trust could easily be broken.
But I'm not going to do it.
Not going to do it.
And so there's therapy.
Right.
But you seem to have taken the assets and the capital that Successor fame has given
you.
And instead of buying yachts and whatnot, you've actually taken that as an opportunity to,
when somebody approaches you, you get their best self, right?
Because when they meet you, they're happy, they're in a good mood.
They want to talk to you.
They're asking questions.
And you take that opportunity to actually put people at ease and bring them in and give
them a good experience.
And I just find that that's a really generous instinct of yours.
And I suppose my question somewhere in all of this is how.
Jason's question is, how could you do that?
Because he could never do that.
Yeah.
Like, you just see it.
Have you always been like that?
Or was it something that you made a conscious decision where I'm going to take this capital
and I'm going to take this sort of junk food confidence and actually switch it into something
that can benefit my life and my friends and the people that come into my circle?
Because it's a nice thing.
Junk food confidence.
Another good one.
Yeah.
Junk food confidence.
You know, when I was a little kid and we were at Joe Allen's, I don't know if anybody
remembers Joe Allen's.
Of course.
That's in New York.
In New York City.
It's a big after-broadway dinner restaurant.
After-broadway place.
And I was there and there was a guy that was on Sesame Street in the restaurant.
And I remember walking over to him at seven years old.
I was seven.
And I walked over to his table and I tugged on his jacket and he literally whipped his
head around with fiery anger in his eyes and said, cookie, give me cookie.
What did he say?
No, honey.
It was not a muppet.
It was not a puppet.
It was a human being.
Okay.
He burst into tears, basically was like, I'm having dinner and I didn't know any better,
but that's not something that you do when someone's in the middle of dinner.
So and there was a couple of moments.
I also just know that that's something I don't want to be, these people are why we
work.
Right.
So it was just a part of you.
You've always been like that.
And thank God for all of us.
Yeah.
You know what I would say, Jen?
Yes, honey.
I would say the other thing though.
I know that story about being on the plane and I also get nervous of flying and do you?
Yeah, I do.
I don't think I know that about you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then he's on the plane for almost a few years.
He hates it.
And he does the same thing I do, which is like, there's bumps and then you're like, why is
everybody not paying attention?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And everybody's so calm.
And everybody's so calm.
They're like, why are you relaxed?
Like, I'll be watching a movie and then there's bumps and I flip it down and I'm like, I
can't watch the movie.
I'm like, looking around like, how can you watch the movie in this, you know?
Whatever.
Anyway, my point was...
Do you ever feel that you go to the pilot or look to the whoever the person is on the
to see if anybody else is panicking.
Cause I used to look, I used to look to the flight attendants.
Flight attendants, always.
If they're calm and they're normal
and they're just like holding on, then I'm fine.
Always do that.
And so, but what I was going to say was
that your ability in that moment where the wheel falls off
and it's like, holy shit, where most people would freak out.
Whereas before most people in normal turbulence
would not freak out and it's the reverse, right?
All of a sudden, when there's a real issue,
you're not freaking out.
And it really speaks to kind of what Jason,
you were saying before about fear.
Your fear of, you have a fearlessness in what you do.
And that's what makes you so good at what you do.
Because when the moment, you're so good at being
in the moment all the time.
And when the moment calls for it,
and even if it's whatever, like you,
so there's a thing going that you have to deal with it.
There's nothing you can do.
You have to be in that moment.
And I think that that really, it doesn't surprise me
that you weren't scared in that moment.
Right, because that's what I was gonna ask too,
is Jen, don't you, when something like that happens,
do you click into a different kind of mode
when like a crisis happens or something big happens,
we're like, okay, I gotta take care of it, blah, blah, blah.
That sometimes happens to me when,
I look like I can't even get myself dressed in the morning.
Yeah, but you do click in.
I know what you mean, Shawn.
Like she did like, remember the fires a couple of years
ago and it got really close to your house
and you were up on the roof taking those videos.
Yeah.
And we were all like, Jesus.
And you're like, I know, look how close it is.
And I was like.
That was actually a scary moment.
I had to get the dogs and I had to get in the car
because no one could get up to the house either.
Yeah, but you weren't flipping out in that moment,
even though you did clear out for a few days,
you weren't flipping out.
No.
Well, you've been handling a lot of responsibility
for a long time, right?
You're practiced at that.
I'm my own, you know, it's me and me and me and me.
Very self-sufficient.
Yeah.
Jen, I wanna know something.
Who do you, because you seem to me to be so together
and maybe it's the meditation,
maybe it's just life experience,
maybe it's just who you are.
I'm not, I'm really not, I'm a hot mess.
But you do, you seem, so am I, I'm a hot or mess.
But you do seem so together and so strong.
Key word, seem.
No, no, that I always.
I'm an ice cold mess.
Like, I feel like you're way more enlightened in a sense
than I am or most people are
because of the work that you've put in.
And so who do you look to,
because I sometimes look to you like,
Jen, what do you do for this?
And how do you think about this?
And we just talked to each other a week ago
and it was great about like advice about this certain issue.
And so.
What did she say, just put cream on it?
I said, there's a salve for this.
Yeah.
But who is that, who is that for you?
God, it's none of you guys.
I've got great cream advice.
I'm actually kidding.
I find every, but every one of my friends
has something wonderful to offer.
I'm, oh, I mean.
You're covered.
I'm so covered.
You are covered.
I feel so covered.
I mean, JB, I go to you for certain issues, topics,
you know, well.
Nothing.
Do you go to JB for like box office stuff?
Like tracking, tracking.
Deadline, any kind of like, you know.
Tracking ratings, stuff like that.
But by the way, yes.
Yes, no, I know.
Who you go to for that?
If there's any, it's like my own walking deadline.
I'm not proud of that.
Wait a minute, I'm not proud of that.
Why?
It's incredible.
It's what you're known for.
What do you mean?
All you're known for.
Well, I pay attention to what we do for a living.
Your nickname is Junkit, by the way.
That's the adorable thing.
Which I love.
He loves a Junkit.
I don't want any info sneaking up on me, you know?
No, I agree.
Jen, remember you did that?
What was that thing you did with the rocks
and we all had to write down like our thing that we loved.
Everybody had to write their thing on the rocks
about what they wanted or whatever.
And then.
An intention.
What's the most important thing in your life?
And you know what you wrote, Will, on your rock?
What?
My boys.
And you know where that rock is?
It's on my dresser.
I took that rock and I put it on my dresser
and I'm gonna send you a picture when I get back.
Is that true?
Yeah.
You stole my rock?
That's my rock.
Those are my rocks.
I think you said, yeah, you guys can take them with you
if you want or something like that.
And Will, I think you just walked away from it.
And I was so warmed by your little rock,
Willie, that I took it for you.
Now I'm not gonna make my shot at you.
I'm not gonna take a shot at you because.
If I had to write something that I wanted on a rock,
what would it be?
Whip cream.
Cookies?
Milkshakes.
Milkshakes.
Jennifer, Margaret, Jasmine, Aniston.
Incredible that you joined us.
That is?
That's how that goes.
We've taken, we've actually, you've been more generous.
Did we talk about anything?
No, well, that's what this show is.
Like, we're not interviewers, we're not bright,
and we just have a conversation.
Oh, stop saying that about yourselves.
Don't talk about my friend like that.
Yeah, well, it's smartless.
We're living up to our title.
Yeah.
But you have been very, very generous with your time.
Yes, thank you.
Well, I love you all dearly.
I love you very much.
Love you.
And thank you for all of the wonderful compliments.
My God, this is the place to be.
You need a little booster.
Little booster shot, a little love bomb from my boys.
We got plenty.
We don't do it to everybody, so.
No, you should hear some of them.
We love you dearly, so much.
Love you, honey.
Love you so much.
Love you too.
All right, I'll probably see you in about an hour.
Yeah, see you soon.
Love you.
Love you.
Love you.
Bye.
Okay, bye.
Bye, love you.
You know what?
I like that Jen, she added the,
which we could start.
We should start kissing.
No, no, no, we don't need to add that at all.
No, we should start kissing.
I do think that Bye did, may have started at her house.
I mean, we didn't, we took it off of some sort of
television show or film,
because it's been around for a while, but.
Yeah.
But yeah, I feel like I've heard that from her before.
One of the great things about this age that we live in,
say that, and we'll keep, this'll be on the show.
And then in the comments, it'll be like,
that did not fucking, it actually came from like, okay, man.
That started on, say it by the bell, these sons of bitches.
Yeah, Milliman, how dare you
and appropriate my fucking expression by,
and like, okay, man.
I was the first person to put six E's on Bye.
Yeah.
I think it was welcome back, Connor,
when one of the sweat hogs said, bye.
Actually, it turns out I just looked into it.
My uncle used to work at it, and I just,
I have the proof, and I have the thing on YouTube,
like, fuck off.
Who cares about your fucking opinion?
Shut up.
We don't care.
We're saying it, and now it's law.
And you can shut up.
Who get it, Will?
Will's the police.
We're back in a Will's dinner hour here, you can tell.
I know, I already had dinner.
Guess what, you're not gonna be surprised
I had cake for dessert.
I'm sure you did.
In celebration of Jen?
In celebration, I didn't know there's Jen coming on.
I didn't know it was him.
She was in the movie Cake.
Oh, well, I can't, yeah, I can't, look it,
it's exhausting explaining things to you.
I can't be your go-to guy for everything that's...
I'm gonna go celebrate the sequel
and have a piece of pie right now.
Yeah, see, I love it.
I love it.
I love you keep selling that joke.
But Jason, thanks for bringing her on,
because we're all friends with her.
She is a light.
There's a reason she's Jennifer Aniston
and super, super famous and lovely,
because she is real and normal and relatable and accessible.
And she is...
Well, it's a tricky thing
that we're all having to deal with too, right?
Because we're having a lot of our friends on the show.
We want to talk to them.
I think some listeners want to hear from them.
And but we like, for instance, Jen, perfect example.
I know tons about her just personally.
So like, I literally do have to go to the God damn
Wikipedia page to find out what the hell would I ask her
that I don't already know.
And it is an interesting piece of research
that one has to do when you're inviting somebody on
that you've known forever.
We're dealing with that.
Yeah, but it's also really fun
because it can just be a shoot and a shit.
Right, right, which is what it ended up being.
And I don't know if it was worth listening to,
but I loved it.
But it is, you know, as Sean, like you said,
like it's not always the case,
but I think that we, as we've gotten older too,
you kind of whittle down
and you choose to spend the time with the people
who are the most genuine and the three of us spend time
with a lot of similar people and no drama.
And Jen is one of those people and she's really close
with you guys, both you guys and with Amanda, very close.
And for years, and I'm closer with her as well.
And it's that idea of like, she's such a genuine person.
The person that we talk to here is the same person
that you'll talk to at her house in an hour,
is the same person who's at the junket three months from now,
is the same person who's on set with Adam Sandler in Hawaii,
is always the same person.
And it never changes.
Sweet, genuine, nice.
We should bring on somebody
that we all mutually know that we can't stand.
That's a good idea.
Somebody that I challenge you guys,
just pick somebody that we hate.
I got somebody.
You got somebody.
I do.
I've got somebody.
We'll know as soon as it's revealed.
We'll go, oh.
You'll know as soon as they come on.
It's a guy.
And I know as soon as I have this person on,
after you're gonna be like, holy fuck.
You know what this reminds me of?
Did you ever see that they tried to do a remake too?
They called it Dinner with Idiots or?
Oh, Dinner for Schmucks.
Dinner for Schmucks.
But in the French, I saw the original French because-
Sure, of course, because you speak French, blah, blah, blah.
We get it.
Sorry, I think in French too, I'm so sorry.
But, so, Dine des Can,
which is like the dinner for idiots, right?
So Schmucks.
And that is what this will be.
It's kind of like, who can bring-
It's sort of made fun of them the whole time, right?
Yeah, so who can, you have to though,
the goal of that was that to bring
the most idiotic dinner guest.
And so that's gonna be this.
We're gonna have to bring the most idiotic-
Are you sure it's not us three already?
No, we're the idiots for sure.
Like the joke's already on us, guaranteed.
I think we all got invited.
No, but you know what, it's not gonna be that.
It's gonna be bringing on a person who,
because there is no time for drama and all that.
And it's somebody who, there are a few, not a lot,
but there are a few people left who are just dicks
and they're just assholes.
Well, you know, my theory is,
and I shared this last time,
whatever job you go on,
because there's always an asshole on every job,
if you look around and you can't find one,
it's probably you.
And that's our episode, everybody.
Yeah.
Way to go on a high note, Sean.
That's our theme.
That's actually, that is an interesting point.
All right, well, she was great.
We love her.
What a great guest, Jay.
That was awesome.
A little like just sunshine walking.
That's right.
She really is.
All right.
Love you.
Bye.
Bye.
Yes.
Smart.
Loss.
Smart.
Loss.