SmartLess - "Melissa McCarthy"
Episode Date: August 3, 2020Will surprises the gang with Oscar-nominated actress, Melissa McCarthy (Bridesmaids, Can You Ever Forgive Me?). They explore her early days at the Groundlings, strange auditions & on-stage d...isasters, her thoughts regarding salad etiquette, and much more. A guest who warms the heart while torturously tickling the funny bone. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hello, welcome to Smart List. I am Jason Bateman, one of the less smart hosts. Even less smart
is Will Arnett and truly dumb is Sean Hayes. We each have invited, well, one of us invites
a guest per week. The other two don't know who that person is. Some of it's going to
be funny. Hopefully you won't cry. And hopefully you learn a little something. So let's get
started. Don't threaten me with the record button. Okay. I'll give a shit if we're recording
right now. We're doing a podcast and I'm having my candy. Oh, what is it today, Will? It's
always Reese's. Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. God help us. Not sorry. It wasn't on the first
episode. It was. It was Cadbury. It was not. I never... How many of those do you eat during
the show? How many of those do you eat? I don't know, Sean. How many of you know that's
you, dude? That's what you sound like. You know? God. That's weird because I can hear
myself in my headphones. I don't really sound like that. What are you an investigative reporter
and the subject is how much chocolate do I eat? I don't know. Look at his face. I would
say four. Hey, our special guest, you're going to be really excited about this. Our special
guest is a eight-time congressperson from the state of Illinois. What? Probably not
properly said. A graduate. A eight-time congressperson? Congressperson. A graduate of Oxford University
in Oxford, England. Wow. Also, a current professor emeritus at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
Who is this? Please say hello to our guest, Melissa McCarthy. Thanks for doing just everything
I'm not. It really... So it's like... I love it. Hi, guys. Our guest is the funniest person
I know, I think. I think you're the funniest person I know. Melissa, to me, you are all
of those things. You are. Wait, thank you. I'll just say she's one of my favorite people
in the whole world. The whole world. You're one of my... Honestly. You're really doing
a center part, Bateman. Well, listen, I'm not putting... I haven't put product in my
hair since March 15th, and so what you're getting a chance to see is the true water
buffalo. I like you with longer hair. I think it looks good, actually. It's good, too. Yeah.
I bet it looks good. When you're brushing it out, I bet it looks good, but then when
you put it on, does it have the same consistency? Right. First of all... But also when that
humidity hits, forget it. It just curls up into a ball. I literally have not had a brush
in this hair since I was 12. Really? Truly. That's not true. I swear on my kid's life.
You have hair for like six people on top of your head. Yeah. That's a lot of it. Yeah.
Nobody else brushes it out when it's on the stump. I mean, this is the zipper one, so...
Oh, yeah. Not the snaps. The snaps, it takes a little bit longer. Yeah, the wind. But with
the zipper, it's good. It's a sport piece. It's nice. Wait, so this is what I didn't
know, and I love finding out more about you because I just think that you're the greatest.
Nobody makes me laugh the way you do, but you graduated from high school. You went to
high school in Joliet, Illinois. I did. Prison adjacent. Prison... So Dax and I shot that
prison movie at the Joliet prison. I drove... We drove by the prison every day to get to
high school, and my mom, whenever I would look over, my mom would always go, don't look
at them. You don't want to rile them up. I'm like... I wasn't like, pulling up my Catholic
spill girl outfit. I literally would just glance over. She's like, don't look at them.
Go get them riled up. There she is again. Here's a dumb interview question, but I've
always wanted to ask you. So now I've got you. How amazing is it to always work with
your husband and turn out great stuff? And then what is the most difficult part? Do you
ever just like... Because I make these stupid, fun, dumb videos with my husband, and it almost
always ends in a divorce. Yeah, almost always. Oh, we can't get it. We have to go in our
corners and think about our actions. That's going to be on your side too, because Scotty's
such a nice guy. That's got to be your fault. It's definitely Sean. And you just storm out?
It's both of us. Yeah, no, we're just like, well, then maybe we shouldn't do it. And then
we go away and then we count to 10 and then we come back. We've never had... We've never...
I love it. It's my favorite thing on earth. And we've never had a fight about it. I think
we always talk about whatever we're doing so much and often we've written it together
so we really know it. Yeah. And I think neither one of us really has much of an ego in that
way that it's like, oh, if you don't like it, that's probably a red flag and let's think
of something else. That's nice. Did you guys used to write sketches together? Like how
long have you... And the groundlings. Yeah, you did. So you guys would write stuff together
and then you got married and then you guys started making movies and TV shows and stuff
like that. And then you started working with some directors that maybe were not so you didn't
really like and you were like, oh, honey, I wish you were directing this thing. It's
like, great, I will. That's exactly. It was just that easy. We just did all happen in
like a week. No, I actually have loved almost all of the directors I've worked with. Like,
I mean, I've done a million things with Paul Feig and Ted Malfee. And so I'm pretty lucky
in that way. But it was really when we wrote Tammy, it was the first time somebody asked
us like, would you like want to write something? And Ben and I had already written Tammy. And
we were going through all these directors and people, you know, when you meet with someone,
they have kind of a very different idea of how to shoot it. And I think they wanted me
to be like wackier in it. And I was like, well, she's she's kind of a mess. It's a little
sad too. And then it was finally like we couldn't land on a director that really felt right.
And when we got an amazing opportunity where they're like, we were both supposed to direct
it at first. And then it's so complicated to do with two people that he just did it
because he's the man. Sure, sure. And that's how it works in America. You guys are so great
working together too. And then and the fact that you can travel with the girls too. And
it's I mean, it's just it's too good. Pretty dreamy. We mean, we live and travel like we're
circus people. But it's great. You hit on something really great, which is you said,
you know, that they wanted it to be sort of bigger or crazier or whatever. And of course,
you've had incredible success. I'm actually going to say something serious for once.
The guys are about to lose their minds. The music first of all, did you remember the first
time we met? Oh, boy, is this a serious part? I just thought about the first time we met.
I'm going to see if you get it right. I was wondering if it was with Dax. No, close
if you came to Groundlings. It was with somebody else. I was working with Santa Claus, Christina
Apple. Is that the first? I think so. There was the first time we actually like formally
met. Well, she's a real peach. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. So but I was going to say so you
so people you've had incredible success being super hilarious. But also you've had a lot
of success being very dramatic. You've, you know, you've been nominated for two Oscars.
That's incredible. One was for Bridesmaids for it's for being funny. But the other one
for Can You Ever Forgive Me that I thought was really such a, even though you were nominated,
it was still a very unheralded performance. You were so good. Unbelievable. Incredible.
Incredible. Oh, God, you guys loved it. Jason and I, we saw you, we spent a minute, we had
dinner one night and had lunch when you're in New York. I think you were probably shooting
that at that time. I think it was. I didn't realize that you were doing that and I'm such
a, I was such a fan of that movie. I was just, I found it to be so moving and, and Bateman
so jealous that you got nominated. Don't tell us this in the interview. Look how craven
his eyes are. You should see the hate mail from Bateman I get. It's intense. The voodoo
doll's got pins all over it. Even though he cuts out the magazine letter and you know
what's coming from Bateman. I know it's him. But, but do you, now that you'd kind of done
that a few times is, and you've really got that muscle like, is that something that you're
going to do more of? Or is that, is it something you even think about? You just kind of do
what you want to do in the moment? I mean, ideally until I'm run out of town, which will
inevitably happen. But I mean, I think doing both is so fun. It's like, I always kind of,
it's really, I fall in love with the character. And if it's a drama or comedy doesn't really
occur to me until later. Right, right. I was going to ask something along the same lines
because of you're so great at Mike and Molly. And we all know that like a, the schedule and
the lifestyle of a sitcom on television is pretty fantastic because it's, it's like going
to the office and you, you don't have to, you know, you're not doing 14, 15, 16 hours
a day. It's like we're in the office and you're the boss. Yeah. Yeah. And, and every day's
half day and every day's half day office. And do you miss that? I miss, I loved having
a live audience and I miss the people. I loved everybody I worked with on that show. We were
all really super close kind of right from the get go. We just all really clicked and
there's such a great group of people. I think I'd love to do something that is that format
without that need for like that certain rhythm. It was really, it was really hard to, because
I had never done it. And like even doing like the rehearsals for everybody and ahead of
time, they'd always be like, that has to get a lot more energy. And I always say on the
day, because I like save it. I'm like, well, I do a version of it, but I'll do it better.
Same. Yeah. Because, right. Because I never wanted to do it full. I mean, it's exhausting.
But yeah. And I just think if I, I don't want to do it right and rehearsal and then bomb
for the camera. And you can't get that first reaction back. Yeah. So I was always like,
I, I know how to cross a room and I can say the line. Yeah. So it was always, but I don't
and that's where the acting comes in. But I can act it myself. No. But I would like to
try it and have a looser, non-traditional sitcom rhythm. Yeah. And how and still get
it like, you know, still have those same hours and still work in front of a live audience.
Cause I thought that was what was so incredibly fun. Well, here's what I love about you too.
I mean, you're just like a pioneer in so many ways and in comedy, just because of being
you and like, you know, I remember I also, cause you came across to America and it took
you five months to get through the mountain. Yeah. And I only ate one cousin, but they
were kind of terrible anyway. That's so crazy. She's a pioneer that way too.
Um, because when you, when you, it's so dumb, so dumb. When you, uh, when I, I was shooting
this movie in Atlanta, oh, what, this is fantastic. By the way, this is a great story. I was shooting
the three Stooges in Atlanta. I heard the applause. Yeah. Thank you. Just somebody, our
listener clapped and in Atlanta and I go by myself across the street to go see Bridesmaids.
The weekend it came out and, and I was like, Oh my God, that's Melissa. She's still the,
she's like, I know you've heard it your whole life because it kind of helped launch you
not that you weren't huge after Gilmore girls. I mean, you were a huge star after that, but,
but I just was like, this is so incredible. Like this, I don't know, you just, I was so
proud of you and so excited for you. And then in that same mall a week later, I go see the
Green Lantern with Ryan Reynolds. Yeah. And I walk into the same mall that I saw Bridesmaids
and there's Jason and Ryan shooting the change up. And I was, and I walked right in the middle
of the scene and I'm like, Hey, hey, Jason's gone on. It's like, what are you, what are
you doing here? And I'm like, Oh, Ryan, I'm going to go see your movie upstairs. Oh my
God. It's the craziest thing. That's so bizarre. And then you saw it. Isn't this story, you
saw it and then came down, you came down and you said, Ryan, can I talk to you for a second?
Yeah. After you saw it, right?
It's, it's the picture locked. I have ideas. It's the picture locked.
What about how I saw Bridesmaids at, even before it was in the theaters, I saw it at
one of these, one of those premieres things. And I immediately, I was working on a script
about identity theft where this, this guy gets his identity stolen from this other guy.
I called the producers real quick and I said, Hey, I just went to a premiere of something
last night. It hasn't even come out yet. This woman steals the whole thing.
They're like, we know what a premiere is, dude.
Let's switch the role to a woman and let's approach this woman before she blows up. We
can get her at a real price. We hammered her down. We got her for, we paid her $3.50 an
hour under minimum wage.
I remember you called me and we went and had lunch and you ordered a chicken salad.
Of course you did.
Boy, I'll never forget it.
Shocker.
Where'd you go?
Soho house.
Oh.
Oh.
It's fancy.
Gross.
Really fancy.
How did you not walk away after that? How gross?
Well, I was, I was basically just trying to get like a lunch out of him.
Yeah. Did he take his salad to go? Did he take his salad? Cause I'd be really embarrassed.
Did he talk, he talked, I mean, by the way, I'm talking with my mouth full of, full of, full
of salad.
Bayman loves to chat.
He loves to stuff his mouth full of salad and then go, so.
Well, it keeps it casual, you know, it keeps it, it keeps it real casual.
It's so gross.
You really, you do like to shovel in a salad like no one else have ever seen.
It's crazy, right?
I don't know where it started.
It's steady. It's constant. And I'm always like, it's not going to run out of the bowl.
You could, you could take it down a couple of matches. It's not going anywhere.
I got to eat it before it stops being cold and before the lettuce gets willty. That's
the race.
It's the big bowl of it. I've had to witness just the, like the huge silver, like kitchen
bowl that you'd.
I'll eat it with a spoon. I don't care.
Yeah.
Missy, I have another dumb question.
Yes.
What, like when you were growing up, like who did you were like, oh my God, she's so funny.
I wish I was like her or like, oh my God, I wish I'd give anything to be in that show.
I mean, Madeleine Khan.
All the best.
Like made me crazy.
Yeah.
Like Gilda Radner and, you know, everybody, everybody on SNL, I just was like, they're
so, also Carol Burnett, like I just loved how I love that feeling of when she would
do, she would do something that was so embarrassing that I would get embarrassed and I just.
Did you look at any, any of the, of the dramatic actresses and, and think that that's, that's
something you want to do?
Or is that something that became more appealing to you as you got more and more sort of accomplished
with comedy and just wanted to challenge something new?
I never thought of, I never thought about doing that.
I just loved, I really loved like the character work when someone could be someone so kind
of peculiar and I think as I was so sick of, you know, really until kind of recently, most
female parts were always like so perfect and so quaffed and everything was so kind of not
everything, but so many parts were kind of so boring because you're just like, you're
just always pleasant and nice and there's no bumps and bruises.
So when I would see women doing comedic characters that were irritating or weird or bizarre,
I just thought, oh my God, that's so much more into this day, it's still so much more
interesting to me.
I'm like, I don't know how to play pleasant.
But your approach to your characters, it takes so much acting talent to do the kinds of comedic
characters that you do and make them believable, which is what makes them so funny.
I mean, so do you so then do you find the dramatic characters I put in quotes that that's somewhat
easier because the bar to be believable is much lower because the eccentricities are
less.
No, I don't think they're less, I don't think they necessarily are less eccentric or specific.
I think you don't have the added thing, you can just be believable.
So if you're grounded, I think you're doing it.
The thing that makes comedy so hard is you have to be believable and then you're swinging
for the fences.
You're trying to land a joke than any joke.
The best joke in the world out of 100 people, 60 will love it, 20 don't get it, 10 are offended.
You know, it's so hard and then the show and then the Sean Hayes.
So then the drama is easier than yeah, I think it's easier to be considered like that was
a successful role because comedy is so subjective, even though it really I think it's I mean,
you guys all know it's it's harder.
You know, yeah, well, dying is easy, comedy is hard.
Have you guys heard that?
No, no.
And so, so no, and nobody's heard that and nobody wants to hear it.
Do you think there's any knowing how hard it is to land a joke that way?
Do you think Sean will ever do it?
Like, will he ever let it see what I think we're going to go just right there.
And I was like, this is a different show as I pull my pants up to my nipples.
Wait, Missy, I want to ask you something else.
Yes.
Here's what's so cool about you and so amazing is like, you know, all of the acting roles
and all the accolades and then you go on and you'll be this producer and this unbelievable
producer that, you know, like what made you want to do that and and it's it is kind of
so inspiring.
And you are such like you seem to me, although we've never worked together and I hope we
do one day.
I know.
Isn't that odd?
Isn't that crazy?
I feel like in my heart we have so but so like what made you want to do it?
Because to me, you seem like you'd be the most incredible boss.
You'd be like respectful and a monster.
No, you're not.
Only to those who deserve it.
Right, Melissa?
It's true.
If you deserve it, you'll you'll get it.
Taste my fist.
No.
You know what?
I think it's because, especially all the whole time I was in New York for probably
seven years, just doing really just all dramatic work and started doing stand up and then the
rooms freaked me out because people were the hecklers.
I just I didn't want to fight people.
I just wanted to tell dumb bits.
Yeah.
And such part of the comedy rooms are like, there is a guy in every single room.
I never went on one night ever when as you're walking to stage, there's a guy that's like,
take your top off.
Every single time or like show us your blue, you know, and every single time I'm like, are
you the same guy, are you the sad, lonely guy that's like, you've come here and like,
you really want me to take my shirt off?
Like, I'll do it.
That'll fix you.
By the way, I hope it's the same guy because if it is, it's a good bit.
It was it was Ben and it was it was that was that was his big move.
Now I know.
That's why he looked familiar to me.
Well, but do you want to be because you're so good at that, do you want to do other things
that where you're the boss?
Yeah, I think it's also from doing so many play.
Like it was always like, I produce, you know, I say produce very loosely.
Basically I'd pick a play, you'd get a cheap place to do it, you'd carry folding chairs
up, you know, three flights because I got a deal on this theater, which is really a rehearsal
room.
Right.
And I did that for so many years.
And then even at Groundlings, like you do all your, you're responsible for your own.
If you want to do a show, you have to do it to get the costume to get the people to
see it.
So kind of, I think I didn't know when you started that I wasn't just supposed to do
everything.
And also I started on sets as a PA.
So it's to this day, I still weirdly like, if somebody's like, we got to get the coffee
table moved.
I'm like, I'm on it.
And like I'm constantly, I'm forever being asked to stop moving furniture, but it's like,
I love that.
Well, I was standing next to the coffee table.
I know it's like union rules, union rules.
I can move the chair.
It's just my, I think it's my Midwestern nature of like, same, I'll just do it.
And I find it all super creative.
I like all the monotony of what's the rug going to be?
Where do we want to shoot?
What's the location?
I love the whole process.
Melissa, this, the start of doing acting, comedy, what have you?
Sure.
What did it come from?
Like looking at the, the funny acts on SNL and, and Carol Burnett, or did it start earlier
than that as sort of like, um, trying to figure out who I am.
So I'm going to pretend I'm different people.
What are you hiding from, Melissa?
It's me.
I'm projecting.
What are you running?
Oh my God.
This is the place to tell it when I killed that.
No one will see you cry on the radio.
You're like, if only they would call me to be on so I could reveal the true me.
Um, no, I, I, again, I went into it like in a weird way.
I, I moved to New York to go to FIT and to do women's fashion.
I didn't know that.
That's so cool.
That's still something you pursue.
Right.
You got a clothing line.
Yeah.
It's still something I do.
Um, the, the first, I've always loved it.
And that's what all through high school, through college, like a little bit, I went
to college.
I was in clothing and textiles.
And um,
All right.
Cause you have your clothesline.
I forgot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And when I got there, I moved in with one of my closest friends from, uh, back in
Illinois, uh, Brian Atwood, he's a great shoe designer now.
And he, we got, he had a village voice and I think the second, maybe my first full night
in New York, he's like, you're going and you're going to do stand up.
I was like, all right, I mean, it was 20.
So I was like, how hard can that be?
I also didn't know you were supposed to prepare for it.
I didn't know you were supposed to write.
I just kind of got up on stage.
I had like two pretty stiff drinks.
I got up on stage and was like, just freestyled.
Yeah.
That's what I thought you did.
I didn't know any.
I was just oblivious.
You're like, Brian told me.
And then it was, it was really fun.
So I, that's kind of the whole way I got into it.
Wow.
Like two days later, I was like, I don't think I'm finishing college mom and dad.
No way.
My favorite thing to hear is your best, your like favorite audition story gone wrong and
your favorite, like theater mishap, like, because you said you went up and winged it.
Like what was the worst?
Worst audition, I have to say was I went in for like, like it was like some Western.
It was like a sequel to some very, you know, harsh Western.
And it was a scene where I was supposed to be, I was found wandering naked in the desert
because I had been raped by like 12 American Indians.
I read for the same part.
Yes.
Yes.
Um, and then I'd watched like three of my three children be murdered in front of me.
And I was like, despondent wandering in the desert.
So I did this part and it was so funny, so funny.
Um, and I did the scene and it was like, you know, it was like a full.
Like you were, I was mentally like out of my mind for obvious reasons.
And when I finished and I was like, I felt really connected to that, the guy goes, you
know, some good actors, they can do something, but they don't have to overdo.
They don't have to do so much like you did.
You know, when good actors do that and he just kept referring and I'm still kind of
like crying because I've been crying so hard during the audition.
So I don't quite have my breath back and he just kept mentioning like, you know, when
you watch good actors and do this.
And I just said, well, I'm sorry.
I guess I, I just, um, I guess if I were raped and my children were killed in front
of me and I was left wandering in the desert, I guess I would be more upset than those good
actors because that's really what I thought.
Did you say that?
That's perfect.
Yes.
I did because I was, I was so confused.
I was like, was I supposed to play it as really like and I just walked out crying and
unbelievable.
It sounds like a sweet guy.
He was great.
He was great.
And then the worst theater one was Ben and I groundlings or ground, oh, groundlings.
And the second we were, the site was just about to open up and then we were going to
enter and literally like it is maybe within the same second that they're about to open
up and Ben and I just look at each other and as if it's just occurred to us, I was
like, Oh my God, this is a funny at all.
We were in matching outfits, we were in like white jeans and like yellow turtlenecks and
matching curly wigs, like there was no, there was no scene written.
I did.
We bought like funny outfits and I knew it and, and maybe even worse, we were going
to get like glamour shots as a couple and I'm like, there's no point to the scene.
There's no, there's no, there's nothing there.
And so about halfway through the scene, by the way, the audience was like, you guys suck.
Like the palpable energy of them wanting us to go away.
So we were sitting up on these blocks, like posing and doing like, we just had to keep
doing like zany poses while the audience like hated us.
And so I flipped back.
I did a black flip off of the box and I hid down behind them and I reached my hand up
above the box and gave the signal to the light moves to black it out because I couldn't
take it anymore and it was just my hand, my like yellow turtleneck arm coming up, doing
this motion for them to turn off the lights and they wouldn't.
And I looked up, I peeked up over the box and I saw that these two sweet guys in the
lighting booth just laughing hysterically and saying, no.
So then I had to go, whoops, I fell.
Let's begin again.
And we had to pick up the scene that I'd now made even longer and finish doing more poses
and then the scene blacked out and we just walked off stage in silence.
Oh my God.
Because no one clapped.
I would kill to see that scene.
I would give anything to see that.
I would give anything.
It was just awful.
Tell us about your goth period.
You've told me little pieces about it before, but I want it again.
Did you ever go, hey, wait, did you ever go dance at Medusa's downtown?
Oh my God, I was there every weekend.
So was I.
Oh my God, we've probably danced with really surly faces together.
That's so great.
Right.
Totally.
Would you get up on the scaffolding?
Absolutely.
I needed to be looked at.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
I would dance.
I would dance my ass off.
To be looked at.
What kind of intoxicants happen at this place?
And Medusa's was a juice bar.
It was a juice bar.
What is that called?
But we pounded alcohol before going in.
Don't do that, kids.
Stay in school.
Any whippet hits or things like that?
No.
No whippets.
Just like Boone's Farm, Everclear, classy stuff.
Sure.
Sure.
Stuff like that.
No ecstasy.
There's no ecstasy.
No.
No, not in high school.
None of that.
Well, because Jason said goth and then I'm thinking Chicago and then I was thinking Medusa's.
You know, like that's like crazy.
Literally every weekend.
So maybe you just didn't recognize Melissa because she was so banged up with her.
Yeah, it looked like if B York and Susie and the Banshees and Robert Smith all jointly had
a baby.
The dream come true.
Wow.
Are there pictures?
There's got to be pictures.
There's not that many because we didn't photograph ourselves every second because it was like,
I would say 16-ish, 17-18 and then like through my first two years of college, like, super
like full, full length, like black cloaks, huge platforms when no one wore platforms
and I was like, can I get rubber stacked on to make me even taller and just total kabuki?
Like black hair.
But isn't that, isn't that so hilarious?
I have so few photos from 17 to 25, so few of myself.
I have lots of other people.
Oh, you do?
They're not, they're not great.
You're not missing anything.
No.
But so you, so this period of your life is fairly undocumented.
Thank God.
Yes.
Thank God.
And it was just me, we would like go to, we lived in gay bars and like anywhere where
you could dance.
I'm sure we hung out.
Did you go to Berlin?
Yes.
How did we not see each other?
I will, I bet for sure we danced.
Berlin is a bar, not the city.
Yes.
It was just like a year, a year or two ago, we were driving, I was in Chicago and I literally
screamed as if we'd hit someone and I was there, I think for, I think we were working
there on something and I made the driver pull over and like people were rattled because
I didn't mean to, but I screamed in such a weird way and I was like, oh my God, it's
Berlin.
It's still there.
And I took a picture in front of it, but they were like, we thought that literally someone
got like hit by a car and I was like, no, it's Berlin.
It was like the best club and the best music ever.
I loved it.
It was great.
I can't believe it.
I'm sure we were there at the exact same time.
For sure.
Isn't that weird?
That's so crazy.
Yeah.
That is crazy.
Melissa, are you loving all this home time?
Like what's a perfect day for you now that you're at home?
Like do you sleep in late?
Do you go to bed late?
No.
I get up super early.
Yeah.
I get up super early and I go and I sit out in my yard and I have like a couple coffees.
You got a laptop with you out there?
Yeah.
Sometimes I'll listen to like a podcast.
Sometimes I'll like I'll look through the paper.
Sometimes I watch a Bosch.
I'm really hitting Bosch.
What's a Bosch?
What's a Bosch?
You hitting Bosch?
Bosch.
Oh, the show.
Oh, the show.
Yeah.
I'm hitting Bosch like.
Come on.
Pretty hard.
So it's like 6 a.m.
I'm out there just watching.
Bosch.
And that's on the, that's on the outdoor TV or is it on a laptop?
Just on my iPad, but like that's what I'm doing at 615 or I'm like reading the paper.
It's like, it's, it's one or the other.
And I garden.
Oh, wow.
Physical paper.
Do you get a paper delivery?
No.
No.
Not anymore.
I love a real paper, but.
Sure.
Did you say garden?
I'm gardening like crazy.
Are you really?
What are you growing?
Vegetables or fruit or?
This just officially turned into an NPR show.
Oh, yeah.
I know.
I'm like, I'm proving that I'm the world's most boring person.
No, no.
I've gotten super into things that you can regrow.
Like if you cut romaine and leeks and celery, you can set them in water and they regrow.
Like a celery nub will regrow a whole thing of celery.
Oh, I'm into that.
Really?
And they keep doing it.
And I'm fascinated with it.
I have like 20 growing around my yard and I have, you know, tomatoes and artichokes.
I'm doing that with my organs.
I'm doing that with my organs in the bathroom.
I'm doing that.
Listen, Bateman.
This is a little tip of it in a dish.
Just tell Bateman what you're going and he'll crack that window behind him and yell at his
gardeners to grow the same thing and you guys will have the same stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now are you taking these vegetables to farmers market or are you cooking them?
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's out in Brentwood every Saturday for six hours, Bateman.
Come on down.
Go fuck yourself, Bateman.
Jesus Christ.
And I bargain hard.
Yeah.
Are the girls helping you or are they making fun of you?
No, they make fun of me.
They make fun of me.
And like every time I bring in, I'm like, look, this is a bowl of strawberries from
art.
They're like, that's great.
Yeah.
And we grew these.
Like I grew these for you and they're like, yeah, okay.
Now Melissa McCarthy, do you, do your children show any signs of wanting to do what mom and
dad does?
I think so.
I don't know if they want to admit it like Viv, my 13 year old, she played me in something
that we just filmed and she had like a pretty sizable part in it.
So good.
And it was so, and she's, she was really like strangely good.
Like I was so nervous to be like, I don't want her to feel pressured and like, what are
we doing?
And leading up to it, I was like, oh my God, I'm ruining, like, what are we doing?
I mean, she said we would never let them do anything until they were like an adult.
And she really wanted to and she was so weirdly good at not trying just like, really kind
of like, you could see her like, if somebody would say something to her, you watched her
like hear them and then like, sometimes she would improvise like just a really earnest
line back.
And I was like, what is going on?
Like people were like, holy God.
I asked her if she wants to do more and she's like, I don't know.
I don't know.
And then my little one's like, yes, she wants to be an actor and a chiropractor.
There are a lot of those in LA.
There's a lot.
Diamond doesn't.
What is the, what is, what is the first and strongest piece of advice you'd give to both
of them if they said, yes, here I go, I'm doing it.
Jason, have yours shown interest?
It's, I feel like it's starting to come on.
Yeah.
Do you think so?
Yeah.
And it's probably the influence of those devils over there at your house.
My terrible thing.
You're terrible children.
I would just, I think the only advice I would just say, do, do everything that interests
you and don't worry about the outcome and just keep working at it.
Don't expect, don't expect to work.
Period.
Just do the work.
Yeah.
Do the work and the job will come later, but right.
Yeah.
What terrible advice.
What terrible fucking advice.
I say, expect everything.
The world owes you a living and expect it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And get a shorter short.
Yeah.
Get a shorter short.
Tand up and get a shorter short, girls.
The only thing that should be shorter than your shorts is your fuse.
Have a real short fuse.
I was waiting and I was like, what should be shorter than?
It's a real powder keg over here all the time.
I got four boys now as well.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
And it's a, it's a real.
It's a real powder keg over here.
Are you getting up?
Are you helpful?
Yes.
Don't I look helpful?
No.
No.
It looks like you.
You don't.
Are you for real?
You look like you've been sleeping since noon.
No.
I know I look like I do, but these guys know I am a very, uh, hands on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It makes us all look bad.
Really?
I am, I am, I am literally 11 year in a row dad of the year.
It's true.
It's true.
I don't know how you do it.
Will, do your kids show any signs about Archie doesn't, who's 11, Abel does, um, yeah, consistently
Abel's really.
Would you be into that?
No.
I mean, I can always saying we don't want them to have anything to do with it.
And then why is that?
You know, I don't have kids and I hear all the time people who do have kids that are
in the business don't want their kids to do the business they're doing.
Why is that?
I mean, for this particular business is that it's just not a meritocracy, you know, like
I wouldn't, I wouldn't want my kid to, while they're young enough to, to really decide
one way or the other, I'd rather them go into a line of work where a diploma, a degree can
guarantee a certain, a sort of a starting salary, some sense of longevity and job security.
You know, this is, uh, it's so sort of subjective that, you know, that's a good for me.
That's more, I don't want the competition because I keep, I look so young.
I don't want to be going up for the same parts, you know, I mean, just for like,
That makes me want to hire your kids so desperately.
I'm going to go on a real tangent to just get your kids work.
Yeah.
Uh, one question I've always wanted.
So you made, you made, can you ever forgive me with Richard Grant?
Um, I think we've talked about it, one of my favorite, and I got to, um, sort of spend
a little bit of time with him at a certain point.
He's one of the most influential guys on my career.
Uh, one of the real true sort of idols I had, especially that performance in With Nell
and I is my favorite film of all time.
He's an amazing, amazing guy.
Right.
Amazing.
And Marielle Heller, whom I've known for a long time through Yorma.
Oh yeah.
Um, and I've known her for a long, long time.
What, what was that experience?
Again, cause I know I already gushed, I loved that movie, but it was such a quiet, great
movie.
It was an impossible schedule.
I mean, we shot it in, I think like 28 days or something all over New York.
And there was something about, I think when Richard and I first started doing press for
it and people were like, Oh my God, you shot that in like such a short time.
And we're like, they, they always asked, did it feel rushed because the scenes were so
didn't, and Richard and I just kept saying, Marie is so amazing.
That somehow we felt like we had all the rehearsal time and all the takes we wanted, but clearly
that wasn't happening because we were moving as fast as we humanly could, but she's such
an amazing way of being like concise and there wasn't an extra word or extra motion
and a move in that film that didn't need to be there.
So we weren't shooting any excess stuff.
And the way her brain works and her taste level is like nothing I've seen.
I think she is just an incredible force that we know she's great.
I think people, I think she will be one of the best directors ever.
I agree.
I think that she's an incredible director and I think that you're right.
That efficiency of words and emotion of those scenes really comes through.
You get it.
And there's not, it's the, it's the hallmark of a great, I always say that about with
now and I, there's not a wasted moment in that film.
Anyway, um, wow, Missy, this has been such a treat having you.
Thanks.
This was fun.
You guys are very excited to see you.
We love you so much.
We just think you're the greatest.
I'd love to get a curling iron at that hair though.
Yeah.
If we start potting up, I'm going to, I'm going to give you a perm with my whole, I'm
going to give you a lilt.
Time for the product again.
All go well.
It's thick though.
Isn't it?
It's great.
It really is, but I want a desperately permit, please.
We love you.
We love your family.
Please give them all a hug and a kiss from us and thank you for saying yes to this.
Enjoy the rest of your night.
Thanks for asking.
Yeah.
All right.
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This is fucking good.
No, but you saw her and you go, well, yeah, like you,
Jason, like you said, you're like, who,
I mean, I knew who she was, but it's like,
who is this all over again?
You just felt like this is incredible.
And she just keeps getting better and better.
Yeah, yeah, I guess she was doing maybe Mike and Molly
the first time I met her.
And then I was like, oh, hey, she was super nice
or maybe she was on Gilmore Girls.
I can't remember, but I also remember that moment
of senior and bridesmaids and going, oh my God.
Yeah.
This is a, this is just, this is like a talent overload.
You know, this is it.
Right.
And then the one line is that, what was it?
I apologize, I'm not quite sure which end that came out of.
Was that what it was when she burped?
But then she goes on and then goes on
to also has this other gear.
And I found her so, that performance of hers,
and can you ever forgive me?
So quiet.
Yeah, incredible.
I mean, so surprising.
And I think, look, she's set.
Good, good one, Will.
Love her.
Lot of fun, right?
Yeah.
God, she's fine.
Best.
Love you guys.
Love you.
Love you guys too.
What do you guys got for the rest of the day?
You just going to chill?
I'm busy.
Yeah, busy.
I'm busy.
Back to back.
In fact, I think I'm losing you.
Are you going over to Canyon or is it me?
I'm going over to Canyon.
I'm just going to be idling.
I'll be idling in the driveway.
OK, bye.
You still here?
Bye, bye, bye.
Bye.
Bye.
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