SmartLess - "Tiffany Haddish"
Episode Date: September 13, 2021Actor and comedian Tiffany Haddish sits down with us on 'opportunity day.' She tells about growing up in South Central Los Angeles and her journey to the present, the transformative power of ...Roger Rabbit, her new grocery store project, and of course, the healing benefits of the soursop fruit. As lovers of stone fruit, it's time to add some soursop to the mix here at Camp SmartLess.Please support us by supporting our sponsors!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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So Jay, when you wash your hands, I've heard you refer to it before as boiling them
Yes, sure, well, but I don't, you know, I mean, if I don't boil them, that would kill a lot more than the germs
I don't even wash my hands with hot water
Sure, sure, you don't need to anymore
Hot water, it's a myth, right? The hot water does not help you with germs
Oh is that true? I didn't hear that
No, yeah it doesn't
So I'm gonna just do it in cold water now
And also eggs, eggs don't give you a cholesterol problem
This is true
It's also a myth
They were on and they were bad and now they're back on
Wait a second, we've talked about this before
But it's not in the same ballpark as the washing of your hand
Are you just talking about myths in general?
Yeah, well, you know, you're not gonna have hair on your palms if you masturbate
I mean, what are we doing here? Are we just going through the list?
I don't know, but you, I think you can over-electrolite yourself like you do
Go ahead, Jason, talk right now
What are you talking about?
Unbelievable with the eating
Well, at least I do it when someone else is talking
No, but you know what, after all this time and the shaming that you've done with me with the eating
You know what else I'm doing? I'm moving my head away from the microphone
When I chew, another trick you don't do
Except for now
You can go ahead and keep it there
Yeah, you need to get your point across
You made your point across while your mouth was full of food
Oh, God, what a sad sight
Do we get to our guest for God's sake?
I know, but last thing, can't you over-electrolite? Can't you over-hydrate?
If you want to hear something honest, I'm honesting right now
Here, I'm gonna honest with you
I was, you know, I'm very conscious of my puff factor on my face
Yeah, I got it
We are too
We're very aware too
And I was noticing I was holding quite a bit of water
And I was like, I'm not eating salt or sugar
Because those are the big puffers for me
And of course, I haven't had a sip of alcohol for 20 years
And so I was like, it's gotta be these goddamn electrolytes
I did a deep dive on the internet to see if electrolytes
Because it would stand a reason
Because you're trying to replace salts and sodium
I'm like, God, I figured it out
And that's not it
Oh, it's not it, what a story
So it's just your face
It's just my face
Oh, no
Because you've explained before that your people needed to hold on to water
Because in Malta, when you're pulling up the fish
The fish, because sometimes it'll get cold out there in the Mediterranean
I think it's actually from the other side of my family
That probably grew up in some sort of iceberg somewhere
That they had to hold on to, you know, a lot of fat and water
To insulate themselves
Have you thought about doing a victory lap down in Malta?
Just getting and letting the Maltese get a look at you
Call him the Maltese Falcon
Well, to say that I'm a countryman and be proud of me
Yeah, do you think this...
No, no, sorry
Excuse you
You know what that sound was?
That was the sound of our mystery guest pushing away from the table in their chair
Saying, that's enough
I'm out of here
You know, this is a good time to talk about our mystery guest
Because our guest today has emerged as a true treasure in this country
Our guest is a very, very funny person
Our guest is an Angelino
Oh, born and raised in Los Angeles
Our guest came out of, it seemed like was like shot out of a cannon
Into the comedy scene a few years ago
And before you knew it, this person was everywhere
And the top of every list to make every television program in every movie
Just like overnight, by the way, not overnight because...
We need to have a guest session
Let's guess on this one
Yeah, I would like to guess Amy Schumer
Okay, and Jason
That's a great guess
Michael Malley
Another great guest
Two very funny people
This person is an incredibly funny person
Who first came to prominence on The Carmichael Show
That was the breakthrough
This person is a stand-up comedian
This person then published...
Won an Emmy Award for her hosting of Saturday Night Live
She published a memoir called The Last Black Unicorn
She starts in a TV series called The Last OG
She executive produces and voices Tuka and Birdie
Tuka and Birdie on Netflix Adult Swim
She won a Grammy Award for her best comedy album
For her album Black Mitzvah
And she only made it the second African-American woman
To win this prize after Whoopi Goldberg
This person is none other than one of my favorite co-stars
From Lego Movie 2, Tiffany
Haddish, I had it
You should have let me guess it
Look at Tiffany
Hello fellas, how are you today?
Wow
Listener, we've got a blonde Tiffany Haddish
Wow
It's a hard hat, honey
I'm here for work
Is it for work?
It's for work
And what is the part?
Working with you
I'm appropriating the white culture
I'm playing a white woman
Please do
Please do
Y'all the smartest and funniest
That's the only reason I showed up
Because I'm gonna tell you right now
I was like, it's too early
I had my only day off
It's my only day off
Wait, what are you working on right now?
Success and prosperity
There it is
Okay, but there it is
Abundance and generational wealth
That's what I'm working on
Oh, yeah
But as I ask, what are you working on?
You really do have
Always 18,000 projects going on
You work so hard all the time
I do get away one week out of the month
I'll go to Panama or somewhere
I'm loving Panama right now
Do you go to Panama for the
She likes watching the ships go by
I'm going there, I want to start a farm
I want to own a farm
In Panama?
Yeah, I want to grow pineapples
I want to grow coconuts
I want to grow jackfruit and soursop
What's soursop?
It's the best freaking fruit you've ever had in your life
Full of auto nutrients and everything you need
It's a tropical fruit
It's like a dragon's egg
And when you eat it, it fills you up
With all the nutrients and everything that you need
For the day
What's it called?
Soursop
And it has properties that heal cancer
That cure it like
I wouldn't say cure
I don't want to get murdered by the drugs
It's like antioxidants
They'll push it off for a few years
It has everything you need to make your body heal itself
Really good on blood pressure
You know, black people have blood pressure
It's crazy and that soursop really regulates it
The world we live in right now
People are going to take this clip of you saying
That they're going to be like
Tiffany Haddish claims to cure cancer with this fruit
And then it's just going to be
Let's hope
Let's hope
Now, do you have wanderlust?
Are you good about flying around the world
And exploring new places?
That's something I'd like to get better at
I'm working on it
I'm working on it
When the first time I went to Panama
My mind was blown
I knew that there was like
Some Spanish people that have dark skin
That speak Spanish, right?
Because I live in LA
But I didn't realize
That there were people that looked like they were straight off
Of the continent of Africa
Mixed with nothing
But just straight up African
That speak Spanish the way they do
And just celebrate life the way they do
And it's so relaxing
Oh my god
It's where the Pacific and the Atlantic Ocean meet
And there's no military there
Right?
Because it's a sanction
Something
Because all the goods from all over the world
Go through the Panama Canal
Which originally they were going to build it through Nicaragua
And then they started that project and they abandoned it
And they did Panama
True story
Right
Which a lot of islanders
A lot of Haitians and Jamaicans and Africans
Built that canal
That was a pretty audacious idea
Right?
Just carve
Let's just cut this whole area right here
And we'll connect
I've always thought I'd like to do banking
In Panama
Oh yeah
Yeah I'd like to do it
I'm gonna do it
I'm gonna open up a bank
Yeah open up a bank
Haddish federal
There is a lot of money laundering
Happening down in Panama
I guess that's what I'm saying
They got US dollars down there
They deal in all US dollars
I'd love to get in some money laundering
Jason will give us some tips
I'm not in the business of dry cleaning money
But I will make sure it's clean
Yeah just call Marty Bird he'll take care of it for you
Have you ever seen Jason's show
The Ozarks there? Have you ever seen it?
Yes I freaking love that show
Me and my man sit up and watch it
We ready for the next season
I know it's great
And your man if you've been living under a rock
Your man is common
That's his name
I like him
What a nice man
I love him
I was in a movie with him
I was in
Oh boy now I'm blanking on it
Oh my god
We were Pella talking about it
I don't remember what the name was
But he said that you were awesome to work with
I met him once up in Canada
Smokinacus
Smokinacus
My friend is so bad nowadays
He's very cool
He's such a talented dude
He's a great actor
And a nice nice nice man
I've never met him I would kill to meet him
I'm a huge fan of both of you
How long have you guys been together?
It's been a year
Where's he? Why don't you wake his ass up
And drag him into the frame
Well no he's at his house
And I'm at my house
I went to sleep at his house
And then I came to my
This is where I work my house
And then I do the other stuff at his house
I got you
Alright now what are you guys going to do later on today?
What type of stuff do you guys like to do on the weekends?
What's day plans look like
For Tiffany and Common?
I think he's going into the studio
I'm going to go do a comedy show
On a rooftop off of Wilshire Boulevard
At about two o'clock
And then
Well I'm going to go there at one
In the show and I go on at two thirty
Stand up
And then so I'm going to get a little litty
And eat good
Do my show
And then I'm going to go from there
And I'm going to go to the Jungle Cruise premiere
Wow awesome
I want to see that
So it's kind of a work day for you
You don't mind your weekends being a work day
No I feel like this is an opportunity day
This is a day to talk to people
That I really want to work with
Nice
Like all three of you are guys
That I really would like to work with
Will I already work with you
So whatever
But everybody else
It wasn't that great
Yeah likewise
Tiff did you grow up in L.A. your whole life?
Yeah
Yeah
And always loved it
Never wanted to live somewhere else
For a little bit
I used to go to Atlanta
To visit my friend in school
And I wanted to live there for a little bit
And then I realized
I don't want to live there
Because
No thank you
No
Yeah tell me
Because I spent a lot of time in Atlanta
You tell me
Because I mean
I mean I love it here in L.A.
But if I had to work somewhere else
Atlanta is just great people
Great crews
Incredible restaurant
Bubble bubble bubble bubble
What is it about that city
For you that was like
L.A. would be better
The men are crazy
Are they
The men are not necessarily
I'm used to L.A. dudes
That's like you know
They like get at you
And then they realize you're not the one
And they just disappear
But in Atlanta
They kind of stalkerish
Oh they'll just straight up follow you
In L.A. they are very aggressive
They grabbing ass
They grabbing your arms
Like it's just
Just no
And you'd rather know where you
Like you're not on an actual hunt
Like you can communicate with me
Use your words to catch me
You don't gotta actually grab me
You know what I'm saying
Like don't get your motherfucking hands off me
And I'm a fighter
So like you grab me
I got PTSD too
If you just snatch me up
I'm gonna first assess the situation
Are they shooting
No
Oh you just grab me
I start fighting
I would catch a case
Right
Let's go around the room here
We'll start with you Tiffany
When's the last time
You actually threw a punch
And it landed on someone
Actually the last time I threw a punch
And it landed on someone
Cause the last time I threw a punch
It missed
But
When I did night school
I punched Kevin
I didn't mean to
But I did
Okay that counts
So that was like three years ago
Well last time you threw a punch
The last time
Fourth grade
No I was 21
I got in a fight in a bar
In New York
You remember whether you won or lost
I won
Good for you
I think it was the only time I ever won
You lose a lot of
It was my last one
I went out of winter
Did you get any fights
When you were playing hockey
Like throwing off the gloves
No no no
I was a little kid
No no no
I wasn't like that
When I was a little kid
But I did one time
I was doing a scene
And I was supposed to
And I was supposed to
Miss the guy by a lot
And I was like
Kind of had him down
And my elbow caught him
You threw a haddish
And yeah
I threw a haddish
And I caught him pretty good
And I kind of like looked down
Like oh shit
But we just kept rolling
And God bless this guy
He kept going with this stunt guy
He took it
And then cut
And then immediately I ran back
I'm like Jesus Christ
I'm so
Did they end up using that take
No they cut the whole scene
No they cut the whole scene
I felt bad for him
Cause he caught my elbow
He got hit for nothing
Sean when's the last time
You threw a punch
And Scotty doesn't count
I haven't thrown a punch ever
I drank some punch
For breakfast this morning
That counts
That does count
But no but
When I was doing three stooges
I had to throw
I had to hit this guy
With a
Like a shovel thing
And it was made of rubber of course
But the top of it was metal
And it hit him right smack dab
In the middle of the forehead
And cut his head open
Yeah
And cut his head open
Third eye you busted his third eye
Yeah his third eye yeah
The only punch is that you guys
Have thrown that have all been set stories
Hollywood stories from acting
Or pathetic
Well didn't you want me to call out
The real stories
The real fights I had
Yeah of course
Me and my sister we had a squabble
About six years ago
Sisters can go huh
Yeah and then
I definitely punched my brother
In the chest
No when you fight a girl
Are you allowed to grab the hair
Yeah
I feel like that's a little unfair
No it's not
Okay
Everything is a fight
It's about whooping ass
Yeah
So snatch that here
You snatch it here
And you botch botch botch
In a face like that
You hold the head with one hand
And you grab the shirt
So you can get a guy down on the ground
I once
I was best friends with the guy
For a couple of years
So I thought I knew him pretty well
And then we were at a bar
And he got into it with some guy
And the guy said let's go outside
And my buddy said great fine
So we all followed him outside
And my buddy walks out there
And the first thing he does
He pulls off his shirt
And he says okay let's go
And I was like what the fuck
What's that move
Taken off your shirt
And I realized
You take off your shirt
So the guy can't grab you
And get an unfair advantage
And I was like Jesus Christ
That's strong
Next time I get in a fight
I'm taking off my shirt
And I'll be like let's go bitches
Yeah that's strong
Like it's not earrings and fingernails
It's shirt comes off
Yeah
That would be like
I'm gonna take my wig off
Yeah I'm not fucking with her
My wig off
You hoes don't know
What you mess with you
Yeah hold the phone
Let me take my heart out
Because you ain't fucking that up
Jason do you think you'd ever be mad enough
To take your wig off
No no no
Jason no I didn't think
Wait
I take my wig off her swim team
That's it
Let me so Tiffany talking about
All that sort of stuff
I mean you don't fight anymore
That much I don't imagine
I mean I would fight if I had to
If somebody hit me first
They better knock me the fuck out
Because I'm all the rage
All the angry back women
Gonna come out
All the anger from all the years
All the nose is gonna rise up
From my ovaries
And shoot at them
I'm gonna turn it to one of them
Mortal Kombat characters
Why are you acting like that
But I can't fight no more
Because they say they gonna sue you
People will sue you for whatever
And it's like
When they put their hands on me first
And I'm afraid for my life
So now instead of fighting
You laugh
This is kind of what I'm getting to
Which is like
I use my words
You use your words
And you came up
You're from Los Angeles
You grew up in South Central
What was that leap
How do you become a huge superstar
That you are today
What's that first step to
Getting into comedy
From where you grew up
Because that's a big leap, right?
Yeah, it's a huge leap
Well, first step is
I watched this movie
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
And there's a scene in a movie
Where the detective says to the rabbit
Why are all these people
Doing these nice things for you
He said because I make them laugh, Eddie
If you make people laugh
They'll do anything for you
So I was like
That's how I'm gonna get help
With my homework
That's how I'm gonna get people
To do things for me
So I was just
The silliest and funniest kid
In school
And I was already very shy
So I was like forcing this
To be funny
Were you really?
Yes, I was very shy
As a little girl
Because there was a lot going on
In my world
But when I came into school
I walk in like
Okay, this is the funny thing
That's gonna happen
I mean, I would plot and scheme
The funny things I would do
And say the night before
The things I would wear
And all of this
So that I could be funny
And I could get people
To let me copy their homework
And let me cheat off their test
Get them to read things to me
And memorize it
Like, I was very manipulative
Where'd you get your sense of humor from?
Was it one of your parents
Or a sibling or watching TV
Or movies?
My mom was pretty funny
She was always telling stories
And stuff
My grandma was hilarious
And I feel like TV
Gave me everything
You know what I mean?
I would always try to copy
Different characters on TV
Like, I would watch Bonanza
Right?
Like, that was one of my shows, Bonanza
And that's not necessarily a funny show
In Little House on a Pray
But I was like, okay
I'm gonna use this
Because when I started going to these schools
I had white kids in it
I'm like, I gotta use this
This is their history
So I gotta use this
So I started wearing
This is their history
Cowboy vest with tassels on it
And I'd be like, hello, partner
Howdy, partner
Like, they'd be like laughing
Like, it's so silly, Tiffany
I wear like a bonnet
You know, a bonnet
Like for Little House on a Pray
That you tie around
And I'd be like, hello, hello
Hey, come help me
Call me Lord Ingos
Like, you can even laugh
And we will be right back
And now, back to the show
Jason was on Little House on a Pray
When he was a kid, true story
I know
So you were actually telling his sister
But I love also that you
You're like, all the white kids
Their existence is
They all grew up in like, you know
Like the 1800s
Yeah
The poor strong carriages
Here goes my thing
I thought all white people lived in TV
I thought everybody white that I saw
Comes from some TV show, some program
So that's all I saw, right?
And then I'm in a community
Where it's just black and some Hispanic
When the police would come
I thought they were all from chips
I'm like, oh man, can I get your autograph?
I used to watch chips every day
They all had the freaking mustaches
And Miami Vice, the detective
Come to the house looking for my auntie
And I'm like, can I have your autograph, man?
Was there a black actor, a black show
That inspired you when that broke
And you were like, oh my god, that's not just TV
There are black people in the world, too
Well, yeah, well Martin was on TV
That shit was funny
Family matters
Family matters, yeah
What was the character that Martin played
The woman across as Shanae Nae?
Shanae Nae
Yes, Shanae Nae
So funny
My aunt, my aunt
I just had lunch with Martin
The other day I was like, this is so crazy
Because I used to watch every single show
Every single movie, every single film
And now I'm pitching movie ideas to him
For us to work together
And he wants to work with me, what?
Oh, that's great
I was mind blowing
By the way, of course he wants to work with you
But what I used to say when I was a kid
I used to sit and watch Martin and be like
One day I'm gonna work with him
I don't know how I'm gonna work with him
I don't know why he will work with me
But I'm gonna work with him in some kind of way
But you know what, that's how it works
As you know, it's like
It is that kind of like
That dreaming about it
And that thinking about like making it happen
And just going like, I want this to work out
I mean, it's not that easy
But you know what I mean
And was the attention you got from being funny
Did that motivate you to want to be an actor?
No, what motivated me to want to be an actor
Is this boy, he was in drama
We was going to this predominantly white school
It was 3% black
And he was the only black boy in drama
And I was like, oh, if I get in drama
Then we gonna have to kiss
They gonna have to put us together
So I got in drama
And turns out I was really good at it
Right
And
Did you get to kiss him?
No, because my damn teacher was all liberal
And open minded
She believed the interracial couples
So I never got to kiss him
I was so mad at her
Like, come on Miss Young
You got stuck with the white guys
But where is it?
What the racism not working for me today
Oh, she made me sick
But then we went into high school
And I followed him into drama in high school
Like basically any classes he was doing
And whatever he was trying to do
That's what I was trying to do
And he thought I was just like this silly girl
That was always trying to make her laugh
But I would save up money
And buy him candy grams
And I make sure he'd like
The candy grams usually just have blow pops
But I knew he liked Snickers
So I made sure there was a snicker in his candy grams
I was on it
And I would try to write him notes
But I spell really bad
It was like the worst speller, the worst reader
So I write him these notes
And it would be all misspelled
The only thing spelled right is my name
What happened to this guy?
Do you know where he is now?
So he ended up playing for the Washington Redskins
But I guess they're called something else now
The Washington football team now
Yeah, Washington football team
Washington football team
Ended up playing for them
And went to college and all that stuff
And now he does commercial real estate
He works for some big commercial real estate company
And he has like five kids
Are you guys still in touch?
He came to my comedy show at the Staples Center
And I wrote about him in my book
And he showed up with his wife
And in my book I talk about like
I gave him so much candy
He probably doesn't have any teeth anymore
And I hadn't seen him in over 20 years
He shows up to my comedy show
And he has like all brand new teeth
Like Hollywood teeth
That's my fault
That's hilarious
But the thing that I loved about him the most
Is that his laugh
His laugh was like the best laugh in the whole wide world
Like I just loved his laugh
And that's why I wanted to be around him all the time
And I used to do whatever it took to make him laugh
I would do it
Like his laugh just made me
When you were doing your show
Could you hear him in the audience laughing?
No, it was over 7,000 people
I couldn't hear
Come on, Jason
What do you think she's doing a show for five people?
Well, maybe she gave him a good seat
Where he was actually up front
No, it was over 7,000 people
7,000 people
You're talking to Tiffany Haddish, you asshole
He did come backstage
And it was like a high school reunion
Everybody I went to school with
They had flew in the town and everything
Because Tiffany Haddish was at the Staples
It was huge
And so he came backstage
And we had like a party
Back there and like
So all these people I went to school with was there
And he was there
And I was giving him all the attention
And his wife too
But I just wanted to hear him laugh
And I heard like his laugh
Made me feel like a little girl again
And made me feel so happy
Oh, that's so great
I love that
I wanted to record this
I was like, can you laugh into this recorder?
He's like, what?
I said, never mind
That's creepy
But I do like that idea
You guys probably remember too
There are certain people in your life
Especially or maybe in your family
Who you like the way it made you feel
When they laugh specifically them
Like the sound of their laugh
Or the way they laugh
Did you guys have people like that in your life?
Sean or Jason?
I did, yeah
I mean, my sisters laugh
Tracy, that's Tracy, my sister
But wait, Tiffany, did you
I think that says a lot about somebody
Who keeps in touch with all of those people
That you went to high school with
And you're still friends with them
And that's so great
They must just root for you
My best friend from junior high
She's got one of my favorite laughs too
Selena, we've been best friends
All these years since we were 12
How about that?
They all freak out where you are right now
Like in life
No, they knew it was going to happen at some point
They knew I was going to do something
It was like, either you're going to go to jail
Or you're going to be famous as well
So you're still so connected to where you're from
In fact, aren't you opening a
Or did you open a supermarket back
In the community that you came to?
I'm in the process of opening a grocery store
If you guys want to be on the board
You are more than welcome
That's so cool
That's really cool
Yeah, tell me about that
I just heard about that from our mutual friend
Who told me that you're doing that
Yeah, so
Which is so great
So I'm opening a grocery store
Because they're shutting down
Like I still live in South Central Los Angeles
And the area is transforming
It's definitely changing
This is probably why I have the blonde hair
And I want to fit into my community
But they've shut down like three grocery stores
Around here
Which is really not good
And there's no plans of implementing
Or putting into
Because of business?
Because of poor business?
No, because they don't want to pay
Five dollars more
Right
Right
They need to pay their employees
Five dollars more
Because they're essential workers
Or whatever
And they don't want to do it
So they're just shutting down the stores
Also, you know, like we were supposed
To have a Trader Joe's over here
When I bought my house
They were saying, oh, the Trader Joe's
Is going to open up over here
And they didn't open a Trader Joe's
And then, you know, in my research
Of trying to open
In the process of me opening this store
I found out that Trader Joe's
Only puts themselves in communities
That have a high college graduate demographic
Wow
So in South Central LA
It might not be a lot of college graduates
But there are a lot of business owners
And people that work with their hands
And, you know, service people
But they don't want to put a Trader Joe's
In this area
So that made me really upset
Then the whole thing with
Everything that was going on
With the injustices and the marching
And the protests
And I heard the police say
We're here to serve the owners
We're here to protect the owners
Like that's what we're supposed to do
Protect the owners
And so that made me really infuriated
Then I started reading all these books
And I'm reading the color of money
And how the other have banks
And I'm seeing all the things that have happened
And I started doing my research even more
And I'm seeing how in a black community
It circulates for six hours
But in every other community
Pretty much every community
Besides the black community
The dollar circulates for at least 18 hours
To 12 days
In the Asian community
12 to 13 days
I'm an idiot
What does that mean circulates?
Circulate means like
Okay, so me going to get my hair done
And then going to the gas station
And then going to the grocery store
And then going to like, you know
Buy clothing and do activities
Like once I go get my hair done
That's it
There's nothing else that's owned by a black person
There's not a lot of places to circulate that money
I see
Not a lot of like, owned businesses
It's what I'm saying
It's not a lot of places to circulate
That's wild
So, like, I don't know if you notice this
If you go to Koreatown
There's Korean everything
There's a Korean grocery store
There's Korean bank
There's Korean, you know, clothing store
Korean carpenters
It's Korean everything
When you go to a Mexican part of town
There's a Mexican grocery store
It's on every corner
Little grocery stores
Big grocery stores
Like, Mexican this, Mexican that
Right, even banks
When you go to a black community
What do you see?
Liquor stores run by Asians
You see a lot of churches
You know
And once I get my tides over to the church
That's pretty much it
You know
You see hair salons
Once I get my hair cut or hair done
That's it
So how are we supposed to maintain
Generational wealth
How are we supposed to keep people from going to jail
Committing crimes
If there's no opportunity
Something else I'm just remembering
I saw you somewhere
Speak about this
I'm going to get it wrong
So please correct me
You really said the importance about
Really thinking about how to
Reach the goal of owning something
I thought that was so great
Right
So that's why I'm opening this grocery store
Because I feel like
What kind of business holds thousands of businesses
In one place
Grocery stores
There's a million
There's 100,000 companies
In a grocery store, right?
So if I make sure that 75% of those products
In that grocery store come from black vendors
Black farmers
Which I don't know if you know
The disparity that's happening with black farmers
When we used to be the main farmers
And now we get pushed out of farming
So anyways
I want to create a place for that synergy to happen
Right
And then not just
It can be a mixture of things
Because I know there's not
There's not enough black owned businesses
To fill up the grocery store
But have that be a priority
And then it's not really a grocery store
It's a community center
Because I want there to be cooking classes
Because they took home economics out of school
Which I think is to destroy the families
Yeah
I think that was to destroy the family structure
Because if you can't feed your family
If you can't maintain the bills
And all this stuff
That's what home economics teaches you how to do
Then you
The family falls apart
When the family falls apart
The community falls apart
When the community falls apart
People are getting shot and killed
There's crime happening
Because families are root of everything
So I want to teach financial literacy
As well
So once you have
People that know how to
Understand money
And how it works
And you have people that are eating better
Which is going to help with the mental health
Right
Jason
And they're able to cook for themselves
And sense of pride
Right
Then they'll be stronger
When they're stronger
Their family is stronger
When the family is stronger
The community is stronger
And less need for violence
That's
This is fantastic
How do I
I want to get involved in that
You're more than welcome to come
You got my number, Sean
I do, girl
Call me
I'll put you on my board
Count me and Will in as well
We just had someone on the show
LeBron James
Who's very, very involved
With community and family
And all that stuff too
I bet you he'd lend a helping hand
As well
Especially in Los Angeles
Well, I'm definitely
My next step is to reach out
To a lot of the athletes
But Kevin's on my board
Lil' Ralph Hallory's on my board
Jada Pinkett Smith
Snoop
We got people from the community
But I need your help too
Listen, count us in
Anything I can do
Count all three of us in
Tiffany, you're incredible
I love
Yeah, it's so motivating
You're such a self-starter
And there's nothing that holds you back
You're just like
This is a problem
Let's go to the root of the problem
Let's do it
And I think you
I feel like you're like that
In every aspect of your life
You make shit happen
I'm a visionary
I'm a visionary
And then I try to pull the people together
To help me make this thing happen
I love it
I've been sitting with City Council
Like sitting with the City Council members
Been sitting with the City Supervisors
And I've come up with like two locations
That I think are great
I got to figure out how much it's going to cost
That's the part
I faved up all this money
Literally
Because the government
Be trying to take all your money
Right
So I figured out a way to put
The money to the side
For the community
So like
And it's like tax-free
And it's for the community
This is where Panama comes in
This is Panama
This is old Panama
Have you considered money, Carlo?
And the Cayman Islands as well
You just need a big duffel bag
I've been to the Cayman Islands
Not interested
Haven't been to Monte Carlo
But I will check it out
The Monaco is incredible for banking
So what does your vision look like
For ten years from now?
Because your ascension has been incredible
I even have a whole book
Okay
This is how hard I've been working on it
I have a whole book phone
What it would be
For the co-op
Yes, for the co-op
For the grocery store
So what's the ratio that you would love to see
Between your philanthropy
And your career
And your life with common
And all kinds of things
Like, is there...
Are you the kind of person that has a firm vision
Of what the next year, five, ten years looks like
And that's what guides you?
Yeah, I have a plan
I have a plan
But I don't know
Of course you do
But it's God's plan, right?
I have an idea of what I want
But whatever God has in store
That's what's going to happen, right?
But I have it all written out
Like, you know, in my mind
I'm going to open a grocery store
Up in two to three years
It'll open
I have Discovery Plus
Following me around
Recording all of it
Because, you know
In my community, a lot of people are like
Why don't Oprah come back
And open up a bank?
Why don't they...
These people get all famous
And they don't do anything in the community
And it's like, it's really difficult
If you don't have the proper help
If you're not willing to like
Talk to your friends
And ask for help
And be like, who do you know
That can help me get this done
Like, if you're not willing to do that
Put yourself out there like that
It's very difficult to do
Right
So I've been putting myself out there
And trying
So in my mind
The store opened in two years
Maybe three
And then I'll open them up
All over the country
And in ten years
They'll be in every
Underserved community all over
That's so exciting
And then people will have
More home ownership
America will be great
America will be great again
Because they'll be more
Secure people mentally, physically
And financially
Yeah, I love that
Look at you go
Are you in common going to get married
Or are you going to remain
Just common law partners
I have no idea
Well, first of all
We're not necessarily common law
Because we don't live
In the same house
Oh, that's true
I would love for him
To always be my friend
If he decides he wants to marry me
Who he gonna have to...
I don't want to ring
I want an apartment building
You know what I mean
I can know how they'd like
Present you with a ring
I don't want him to present me
With the deed to a duplex
Or a 36plex
Present me with an apartment building
Because then...
Does he know this?
Yes, he's aware
He said I'm crazy for that
I said no, I'm not crazy
I'm smart because a marriage
Is a union of two businesses
And the whole point of coming together
Is to grow yourselves
But also grow a family
And make sure they have something
To inherit
So this ring
They can inherit the ring
But that ain't...
What's that?
Two thousand, three thousand
Maybe ten thousand dollars
What is that?
But if you get an apartment building
That will increase in value
The children will always be able
To go to school
We'll always have something
If we get sick or something
We'll have something to cash out
And be able to take care of ourselves
There'll be something there for us
God bless you
That's what I want
That's great, I love that
Come at me with a deed, baby
Don't come at me with a ring
Yeah, put a deed on it
Because if you're trying to buy my life
And change my last name
To your last name
His name's so common
The ring ain't gonna do it
We can get the ring after you get the building
You're lucky he doesn't have a last name
I mean, that's the good part
He does have a last name
Oh, he does, I know
It's O-N
No
It's Lynn
All right, back to the show
You seem to have it all figured out
I don't have it all figured out
I'm just...
No, you got it all figured out
Having a plan is seventy-five percent
Of the way there
So you and Kevin have known each other
At Kevin Hart
I've known Kevin for a long time, too
For twenty years or something
I met him, he was doing a pilot
With my ex-wife years ago
Such a good guy
Yeah, I agree
Such a great dude
How big of a part did Kevin play
In your life when you were starting out?
Well, in the first beginnings
Like I started in ninety-seven
So in the first beginnings, not much
But me and Kevin, we met like
2004, 2005
And he's been like a big brother to me
Ever since
Giving me great advice, guidance
When I was homeless
He gave me a few hundred dollars
To get a place to stay
Hold on
He was like, stay in a hotel
For a week and I'm like
Let's pause there
When were you homeless?
Walk us through that
Three different times
The first time is when I was emancipated
From foster care
I was homeless
The next time is when
When me and my auntie were sharing an apartment
And then we basically got evicted
Because they were selling the apartment
And there was no money
You know how when they ask you to leave
They give you like your deposit back
And all that
What they were taking forever to give that back
So my auntie moved in with her dude
I moved into my car
I got into my car
And so I was like sitting in front of
It was crazy because I was like
Sitting in front of the department
Children services office
Because I found out they had
An independent living program
For emancipated foster youth
And so an independent living program
They teach you how to pay your bills
How to pay rent
How to you know
Fill out applications
How to apply for jobs
And all this stuff
And I already had a job
I just didn't have a place to stay
So I was getting on these social workers' nerves too
Two weeks I was in their office
Every day washing my ass
Sitting in their lobby
Go to work
Come back
Sleep in front of their building in my car
And then finally they gave me an apartment
And things worked out great
But then I was emancipated from that
You know you could only be there for so long
And they gave me my money to move
But
Things didn't just didn't just didn't pan out
They didn't pan
My credit wasn't good enough
A lot of things wasn't good
I didn't understand the power of credit
I didn't understand
It was a lot of things I didn't know
Because I didn't have a mother or a father
Or anybody teaching me about like certain things
So it was very difficult right
It's incredible the way that you figured
Everything out and you put
You put everything in front of you
And you knocked it down
It's just it's really stunning
I mean good for you
So I would go do these comedy shows
I would go do these comedy shows
I'm at the Laugh Factory
And that's where I would get to eat
Right and that's where I get to be around people
And I would just I would just try to be as happy
As possible right
Just as much joy as possible
And it was so crazy because Kevin
Like I had all my stuff in the car
And Kevin pulled up behind me one day
And I would show up like 10, 15 minutes late
Like I'd be down the street but I would wake
So nobody could see all the shit in my car
And Kevin pulled up behind me
He saw it all and he was like
What's going on with you?
And I was like nothing, nothing
He was like what's all that in your car?
I'm just in between places
I'm moving right now
And at this point I'm sleeping in front of like
These houses and Beverly Hills
You know just in like washing up my job
And just you know trying to
And always make sure my hair was done
And my nails were done
Because I figured if my hair and nails are always done
Nobody will know you know
And I keep baby wipes always smell good
Like nobody will know
But me but Kevin figured it out
At a conversation with me
He's like write out a list of goals
He's like I want you to get
Here's a few hundred dollars
Write out a list of goals
He starts doing one thing every day
Towards that goal
You can do at least one thing
Every day towards the goal
You'll accomplish it
I talk to, I go to
I have a scholarship set up
In my alma mater Illinois State University
And when I go down there
And talk to the kids
It's the first thing I say
I always talk about writing out your goals
And exactly everything you're saying
It's so true
That's the first step
You got to see it
If you see it
It becomes infectious
Wow Tiffany that's incredible
Tiffany it's so incredible
Like you go from this thing
And talking about you know
Even just now when you're talking about it
Obviously it's very emotional
About being in that place
Where I mean real struggle
Really real struggle
And then your day
And then what you're going to do
Is you're going at night
And you're making people laugh
Out of your own struggle
The flip of it is
You're going and making people laugh
There's something sort of
So bigger than all of us in that
There's something really really powerful
About that
That you were able to go and do that
Because I know for me
I would feel such a sense of give up
Like fuck I want to be able to do it
And to hear how
Not only are you able to get it
But that was my drug
It's still my drug
It's the laughter
It's my drug
I get that
I mean yeah
I needed it to even be able to sleep
To even be able to feel okay
About like anything
What was the one moment though
Through all of that
And all of that pain and that struggle
What was that one
What was the first glimmer of light
What was the first moment you were like
Wait a minute
I think this might be the gate out of here
Kevin caring
Somebody actually caring
In like trying to help
Then Paul Mooney found out
And Paul Mooney's like
I heard you was homeless
You need to get your
You need a place to stay
My sister
She got kids
She need a nanny
You could go stay over there
And take care of her kids
I'm like
I'd much rather be homeless
Than be a nanny
But no wonder you're so focused
On giving back
And providing some hope
And some guidance
And some advice to folks
That might be right where you were
X number of years ago
And just even just letting them know
That it's possible
And here was my path
Good for you
So inspiring
It's so inspiring
I mean it's a long ass road
It's a long long journey
Jason you wouldn't have been able
To go live in your car Jason right
Because the Porsche is so small
In those days
Like you would have
But I had a Geometro bro
I was in a two hour hatchback
Geometro
You can live in anything
If you want to live
My God
It's so inspiring
It makes me
It is inspiring
It is incredible
You're such a force
I will say again
When we first got to know each other
And Tiffy
You don't have kids though
Do you want kids?
I don't have any kids
I do want to adopt
I don't know if I'm even
Physically capable
Of actually giving birth
You know that's on God
But definitely I want to adopt
Because I wish somebody
Would have adopted me
And taught me
Like a better way
So I want to do that
For somebody else
Everything I wish would have
Happened for me
Is what I'm trying to give
To others
You know that's what I'm trying
To do for somebody else
That's so
That's just
That's such a basic
Sort of
You know some people
We all sort of grow up
With a certain level of
You know pluses and minuses
And all of our situations
And every kid has a choice
To whether
We're going to take
And learn from it
Or sort of spend their life
You know everyone's
Going to pay the bill now
You know but taking it
And sort of seeing
Well this is the opposite
Of what I want
And I'm going to do
The positive side of it
The different side of it
It's just such a generous
And a lovely way to
Approach life
With such a healthier
Perspective
I literally just wrote down
What you said
Who me?
No not me
No what Tiffy just said
Everything I wish happened
To me is what I want
To get back to others
I love that
Yeah
Would you rather
Your entire year be spent
On stage doing stand up
Or do you love being on sets
In that whole process
Because it's a wildly
Different thing
On stage
On stage much more fun
On stage because it's
Immediate gratification
Right
Immediate
Unless it's like a
Super dope ass crew
Like if the crew's
Really dope
And we like have
A really great time together
Which like that was girls' trip
We would have so much fun together
And they'd be like
Cut and we're all laughing
And they'd be like
I can't believe you just did that
Like if it's that thing
Then great but on stage is
Well you're now in a position
To any set that you're on
You can control the
Or certainly influence the
The vibe, the atmosphere
The harmony on that set
You can set an example
And basically say
Let's not all take ourselves seriously
And let's have fun out here
Yeah and we always have fun
And no matter what set I'm on
We have a good time
I always have a good time
Even if I'm like
Feeling sick or something
I'll be like everybody
I don't feel that best today
So I might be a little bit
Out of character
But just work with me
But I feel like
I'm turning into the devil himself
Okay
But we gonna work with him
In action
Hey guys
One day we were doing press
And you were really sick
Remember you were really sick
And then we went over to England
And you were so tired
But she wouldn't take a day off
You were like doing shows
And you were doing the thing
And then you flew to England
You were like sick
But you could not tell
Once they were rolling
You were like
You were in it
In action
Yeah
Wait tip you have a show tonight
This afternoon
This afternoon
Oh my god
I wanna see you do
One of those big huge venue shows
Cause I feel like that used to happen
A lot more when I was a little kid
Like you know the
George Carlins
Or the Richard Priers
Or Eddie Murphy's
Or those big shows
Robin Williams do them
Right
Do we have many of those anymore
I mean I guess we do right
Netflix does tons of those
Yeah
You should look on the internet dude
I do tons of them
Like I go on tour
And it's like just theaters
I do theaters
Like you know 4,000, 5,000 seat theaters
And do you walk around each day
With like a little pad of paper
In your back pocket
And when you see
Or think of something funny
You jot it down
Or is your mind
Can you just like
Remember that stuff
I voice record
I voice record it
Yeah
On my phone
I also like
If somebody ever got a hold of my phone
And listened to
Or my voice memo
They would be like
What the
That's what she thinking
I would kill to hear that
I would love to hear that
Like it's some crazy stuff
And then what's your process after that
I'll call my friends
And talk about it
Oh so you'll talk to your friends about it
But then will you write it down
And actually try to structure it
In some sort of like
How much do you rely on
Kind of the written word
Or will you just kind of
Freestyle it
And just kind of have a concept
If I feel like it's a big concept
A big idea
I will sit down in my notebook
And I'll write it down
Usually
Right before I go to bed
I'll listen to
All the voice memos
That I've done
And I'll write down
The biggest ideas
Right
And the biggest ideas
I'll like put little
Like a
Remember how in school
Used to do the
The thought bubble
And then all the little
Bubbles all around it
Right
So
And I'll do that
Like little bubbles all around
Like little punch lines
Potential funny things
How would I tell this
As a story
And then I let it go
And I stick it under my pillow
And I go to sleep
Right
And
I imagine it's happening
In my brain
As I'm sleeping
I love that
Is that a process
That someone taught you
Or is that you created
Your own way
To do it that way
I'm kind of just doing that
In comedy camp
When I went to the
Laugh Factory comedy camp
They would teach us
Like
If you have a punch line
The thing that's funny
You write that down
And then
You write it out as a story
Then write it out as a story
And how do you get to that punch line
But always go with the story
Like the stories are the best things
The best comedians tell a story
And it's filled up with punches
Right
And your laughs per minute
You want
You know, you want to
Depends on you as a person
Do you want 30 laughs per minute
You want
So like every two seconds
Somebody's laughing
Or do you want
You know
5 or 10 or 15 laughs per minute
Depends on the
Design of the story though
Right
Like how do you want it
And how physical is the comedy
Then I start watching a lot of
Like Jerry Lewis and Charlie Chaplin
And all these
Because they were resonating
All over the world
Well, how do you resonate
All over the world
If you don't speak
The languages of
All over the world
Physical
You got to use your instrument
You got to use your body
You got to have
In the tone of your voice
The way that you talk
And the way you squint your face
It's like
People understand that
No matter what
Yeah
No matter what they speak
They feel
They know energy
Right
So make sure your energy's on
And you can
Like
And learn how to gauge that
With the words
You seem to have
Sean, do you think you'll ever get
Above zero laughs per minute
No
I'm
Look, if I get one
If I get one
No, that'd be so good
Right, if you got one
That'd be so good
I go for one every like
Four or five hours
Yeah
You're crushing it
But Tiffany
You seem to have like
Endless, bountiful energy
Yeah
And
And positivity
And
Oh no, I'm an asshole
First thing in the morning
Yeah
Piece of shit
Yeah, but who is it?
Piece of shit after my cold shower
I mean, do you have
Do you have energy
Do you have energy like this
All day, every day?
No
When I'm at home
And I'm not
I'm working
And I'm alone
I'm very quiet
Very like
Reserved
Even like when I'm
With my man
I'm very quiet
He has to talk
You talk to me
And then I'll talk back
Like I'm very
Like
Contempt
When I'm not at work
Would you say you're an introvert?
Because I know I am
No
No, because if I see something
That I'm into
I'm gonna
I light up
Yeah
But most of the time
I'm on like
I'm trying to keep
Maintaining my energy
So
Yeah
I'm quiet
A lot of the time
Till you talk to me
Yeah
But introvert
No
Because maybe when I was younger
Yes
Yeah
Because I was scared
A lot of the times
Yeah
Fear makes you
Like
It's risky
You know
It feels like you flipped
All that fear
Like you used
Yeah
I learned how to control fear
Yeah
Yeah, you used the fear
Like fear is a tool
God gave it to us
For a reason
For using
Right
How to use it
But that's also why
I don't do scary movies
Because I know
That that shit
That fear feels real
And I'm gonna take that home
And then
Yeah
Yeah
Shit
It's like
I love a good drama
Because I'm about that drama
But woo
That scary demons and shit
Woo
I wanna quickly just
Tiffany ask you about your new movie
Talk to us a little bit about your movie
Well talk to us about
Which one
Which one do you want to talk about
Which one do you want to talk about
Your choice
You've got so many movies
Well
Here today just came
Outstreaming
It's now streaming
It's a movie with Billy Crystal and I
It's very powerful comedy
Dramity I would say
I saw the trailer for that
It looks great
Yeah
It's really great
I wanna see that
It's very moving
You need to be prepared to laugh
And potentially cry a little bit
Because this is about a man
That's going through dementia
And about a woman who sees him
And realizes he doesn't have
The help that he needs
And she wants to help
She wants to be a service
He's one of our greats
I bet you enjoyed working with him
Oh my God
I learned so much
Yeah
I learned so much
So
Card counters coming out in September
I'm going to the Venice Film Festival
To be my first time ever going to Venice
Oh wow
It's a
Sean and I have been there together
Sean and I went to Venice together
It's beautiful
Years ago
You'll love it
Any tips, any advice
They told me I can only bring
One person with me
But I'm gonna pay to bring other people
Yeah
Like hair and makeup
Right
Yeah of course
Security
Any advice
You know what
We took the boat out to some
Location near Venice
And saw some church that was built
Thousands of years ago
I highly recommend it
I'll text you with more
Specific information
No that sounds pretty specific
Nice tip
You ever work for Fedors?
So yeah
My recommendation is just bring
Some rubber boots
Because the water level is rising
There
Yeah
But it's beautiful
Just enjoy all of it
I mean it's unbelievable
Tiff thank you for being here today
And also thank you for
Such
For being open like you always are
And inspiring
Not just me and us
But whoever is listening to this
You really are such a magnet
Incredible story
Of will
Thank you
You're an incredible story
An incredible person
I agree with Sean
You're a special person
So this has been awesome
Having you here today
So thank you so much
I'm gonna go the other way on this
Hold on a second
Tiffany I find it all very
No
I absolutely agree
And just so happy
That you spent some time with us today
And we're so generous
With your story
And your
Well thank you
Well I'm always open to share
And I look forward to working with you all
At some point
Yeah likewise
Will?
Yes Steve
God bless
Jason
I can't wait to work with you
Did you guys come out with another season of Ozark
Because I want to know what the fuck happened
We are working on it now
To bet you first part of next year it'll be out
And Sean and I
We're gonna do a sketch show together
Correct Sean?
Yes that is correct
One of these days
We made a deal together
And we're gonna do a sketch show
I would watch the hell out of that
Because I'm like
What the hell is going on
COVID happened
And shut the whole thing down
But it's gonna happen
We gotta make it happen
We are
I'm gonna make it happen
Let's all meet at the supermarket
We'll meet at the new supermarket
And we'll work it all out
Let's do it
We'll see you at the co-op
Alright
Tiffany my god
Thank you so much
Love you
See y'all later
Bye Tiffany thank you
Bye Tiffany
Bye sweetie
Bye
Bye bye
What a sweetheart
I will say
We got along so great
And I love spending time with her
We got to spend a bunch of time together
Over the course of a few weeks
And we laughed so much
And had so much fun
And she does have a magnetic personality
She really does
So authentic
So funny
So authentic
So honest
And those are my favorite stories
Of all time
I love those stories
People really lifting themselves up
And making stuff happen
You know my therapist calls those types of people
Figure it outers
And she goes
Oh you are a figure it outer
Sean
Your therapist sounds like a real genius
Yeah it sounds like
Real way with words
Do you get a deal on this one?
What happened?
We just left 20 bucks an hour
Never tell anybody else that story
Is my advice to you
I will
20 bucks an hour
And that's a break for me
It's usually 25 or something
Oh boy
I talked her down
But Tiffany
Yeah I love her
Tiffany is amazing
And all the stuff she does
And you know she's
I heard that she was
Trying to put this supermarket together
Back in her community
Where she grew up
And
I'm so into that
I really want to get involved somehow
No kidding
Me too
By the way
People listening are like
Yeah I listen to these guys
Who probably never do it
It's for real
Like she's
Yeah no I'm serious
Yeah same same same
Jason doesn't want to do it
No you know what I'm doing
I find myself sitting here
Trying to think of
How can I work a buy into this thing
And you know it's
I should be thinking about the conversation
And not about trying to figure out
How to say goodbye
In a creative
You're trying to work out
Yeah I'm trying to think like
What's in a supermarket
That starts with a buy
Well just about everything
You can buy
Buy
Ah
God that's right
Right there
Bye
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