Smosh Reads Reddit Stories - 2023's Worst Person | Reading Reddit Stories

Episode Date: December 30, 2023

We've read about a lot of horrible people this year, these might take the cake! 0:00-2:23 Intro 2:24-19:52 I found her TikTok after our date https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/17eo...d15/i_26m_found_her_28f_tiktok_after_we_went_on_a_date/ 19:53-30:44 I showed up at my ex's wedding https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/1053aix/aita_for_showing_up_at_my_exs_wedding_in_a_pretty/ 30:45-38:55 I asked my wife to open our relationship https://www.reddit.com/r/AmITheDevil/comments/109e130/i_32m_asked_my_wife30f_if_we_could_open_the/ 38:56-48:58 I made my ex "homeless" https://www.reddit.com/r/AmITheDevil/comments/152xy8n/aita_for_making_my_ex_homeless/ 48:59-1:05:07 I left sexts where my coworker could see them https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/17h8g6q/aita_for_leaving_sexuallyexplicit_messages_where/ 1:05:08-1:18:32 I refused to delete a video taken in public https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/17u00ba/aita_for_refusing_to_delete_a_video_taken_in/ SUBSCRIBE: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshPit WEAR OUR JOKES: https://smosh.com WHO YOU HEAR Anthony Padilla // https://www.instagram.com/anthonypadilla/ Shayne Topp // https://www.instagram.com/shaynetopp/ Arasha Lalani // https://www.instagram.com/arashalalani_/ WHO YOU DON’T HEAR (usually) Director: Kiana Parker Editor: Vida Robbins Director of Programming, Smosh Pit: Kiana Parker Associate Producer, Smosh Pit: Kimmy Jimenez Assistant Director: Amanda Barnes Art Director: Cassie Vance Assistant Art Director: Erin Kuschner Art Coordinator: Alex Aguilar Director Of Photography: Brennan Iketani Director, Design: Brittany Hobbs DIT/AE: Matt Duran Post Production Manager: Luke Baker Production, EVP: Zoe Moacanin Production Manager: Amanda Barnes Production Coordinator: Heidi Ha Production Assistant: Marcus Munguia Senior Manager, Channel & Strategy: Lizzy Jones Talent Coordinator: Selina Garcia Office PA: Ovsana Tsaturian OTHER SMOSHES: Smosh: https://smo.sh/Sub2Smosh Smosh Games: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshGames El Smosh (Spanish Dub): https://smo.sh/Sub2ElSmosh SmoshCast: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshCast FOLLOW US: TikTok: https://smo.sh/TikTok Snapchat: http://smo.sh/OnSnapchat Instagram: https://instagram.com/smosh Facebook: https://facebook.com/smosh Twitter: https://twitter.com/smosh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:25 reading some wild Reddit stories. And today I'm joined by two very special guests, Arasha and Anthony. Yeah. Yeah. That's special. Oh, not anymore. Oh, no. Oh, no, we can't wear the hats anymore.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Damn. Oh, no. When we walked in here, it's like, oh, there's hats. Oh. Oh. Am I the asshole? I made the hats purposely fall off. Am I the asshole for not wearing a stupid hat?
Starting point is 00:00:56 For a video is Castabean. Yeah, so anyways. I knew it. I knew no one was for it. All of these stories today are from 2023. And there are some wild ones. These are some of the biggest jerks from this year. Yeah, how was your your guy's year?
Starting point is 00:01:17 How was your 2023? I mean, Anthony, I feel like we know. I had my whole year out on display, I feel like. This year's been crazy. Yeah, for obvious reasons. It has been crazy. I would agree. This year, I feel like it's been the biggest year for a lot of people. I feel like it was a real relaunch for everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Like it's been almost three full years now, like since lockdown. So I feel like it was a huge time jump. Have you guys seen that thing where psychologists psychologists are calling it like the pandemic skip, where like you're still the age that you were when the pandemic happened? So it's really jarring for people who were like 18, but they were like 14 or 15 when the pandemic started and they're like, I don't feel like an adult. Yeah, and they didn't even get to go to real graduations and things like like like like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to.. And, th. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. the. the. the. the.'t even get to go to real graduations and things like that during that time. I feel so bad for them. So I feel like this was the first year that like things kind of started settling back to somewhat normal and and that was a little unsettling but in a lot of ways it was really great because
Starting point is 00:02:16 people could be out there again and doing their thing. I think this is the first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first the first the first the first the first th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi out out out out out out out th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi is thi is thi is the is thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the first year that I grew. I feel like from 2020 to 2022, I felt like I was just completely stagnant. Interesting. I can kind of relate to that. Yeah. It was a wild year, so I'm curious how these stories are going to be. I'm curious what this year was like for so many others. We're about to find out. Well, let's just hop right into these stories. Our first one comes from our relationship advice. Say 26-year-old man. I found her, a 28-year-old woman. I found her Tick-Tock after we went on a date.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Okay. Interesting. Found. Oops, I found this. Oh, I found your Tick-Tock by accident. This is honestly not something I expected to post about, but here's the thing. I have known this woman, who's 28, for a while since we are in the same friend groups. She's a nice person, attractive, and honestly, I've always enjoyed my talks with her. A few weeks ago, I asked her out on a date.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I figured if she says no, it's fine, but she actually agreed. We went on a date, and I today to to told, told, told, told, told, told, told, the told, out to dinner, had drinks, spent the rest of the night talking, and we even took a walk on a walking bridge over the town's lake. It's not a big one. I dropped her off and was elated. I absolutely loved the night. However, that night, when I was scrolling through Tick-Tock on my tip-tip. a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post, a post-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. toda-a Tick-Tock, appeared on my 4-U page. Essentially, she said in the post, getting ready for a date, I really don't want to go to. That was like a bucket of ice water being thrown on my head. I was so freaking happy, and I just
Starting point is 00:03:56 found out she didn't want to go on a date with me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying she has to want it, but please let me know if that's the case. We don't need to go out. We can forget I even asked her out, but doing this on the internet, it made me self-conscious? Not sure if that's the right word. Now I'm unsure about what to do. Should I tell her I saw to give this another try. I mean, she didn't want to go out with me in the first place, right? Damn. That's really sad.
Starting point is 00:04:29 That's super sad. Yeah. So I mean, I was making a joke that he accidentally found her Tick-Tock, when it sounds like he really was not trying to fuck it. Yeah, he stumbled upon that. For you pages are weird, I, I, tha, tha, tha, thiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's thi. That's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's that's that's tha, that's that's that's that's that's tha, that's that's that's that's tha, thi yeah. They like know your circle and who you're interacting with. That's, where's the asshole? Is it, is he asking if he's the asshole for asking her out in the first place? So this is, this is relationship advice.
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Starting point is 00:05:25 I don't want to go on, knowing that that person could potentially see that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's definitely tough, I think. I mean, I think the important thing is we are missing a lot of context, right? Because the thing with social media is, you know, she could have just been putting that out there as like a hook. She's like, oh I really want people to watch my Tick-Tock, people watch it if I talk about a date I don't want to go on, that's interesting, that's drama. We don't know what kind of content she makes. It could be a joke because she's already getting ready. Yeah, like and truly the only way to figure that out would be, and the only. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr- thr- thr- thr-I thr-I thr-I thr-I thi-I thr-I thi- thi- thi- tho tho thi- your Tick-Tock but I think it's like hey I saw this Tick-Tock I was super psyched about our date I thought that you felt the same way but this
Starting point is 00:06:11 suggests otherwise like I wasn't digging around but I just came across this like do you have any thing to share about it and I feel like the date did go well and she's super embarrassed she can be like that's so my bad you're right like I was just nervous as people do get on first dates like yeah those you kind of don't want to go on any first date because you're like dates are tough and hard. Circling back you know he said I have known this woman for a while since we were in the same friend groups someone they that he knew and knows her, could have seen it. You know, it's entirely possible. If I saw that, if I had a friend who was going on a date, and I saw their date post that, I would probably let my friend know.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I'd be like, hey, is this a joke? Is this? What is this? Yeah. That's kind of rude. It's super rude. My hope is that maybe he didn't see the date the date the date the date the date the date the date the date the date the date the date the date the date the date the the the the the the the the the that's theating theating theateateateateateateathea. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, the. the. theateateat. theateat. that's, theat. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that. It's super rude. My hope is that maybe he didn't see the date. Maybe it's something she had posted a while ago. I do agree. It's something you could post as a joke or trying to get engagement if you're trying to get followers. You know, if I don't know, but I think if I were to post the today, I know, I think if I was in his position, I probably wouldn't say anything. I was going to say the same thing. I was like, I think I would give the same advice as you, but I would just, I think if I were
Starting point is 00:07:28 him, I would not say anything. I'd probably just kind of be like, all right, I'm going to hold off and if she wants to go on a second date and says something, cool. Otherwise, I'm just going to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, I. I, I, I, I. I, I, I. I, I. I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. I'm just, th. I'm just just, th. I'm just just, th. I'm just just, th. I think. I think. th. I think. I think. I think, th. I think, I think, I'm just, then I'd be like, I'll just back off. What if, what if, like the second date, like she initiates it, it goes super well? Like, does anything get brought up? Then I would go, okay. I would probably bring it up in that instance and say, I thought you didn't want to go on this
Starting point is 00:07:55 because I saw your Tick-Tock. date. I would believe if she initiated a second date, I would then be like, okay, she actually is interested and maybe that's a joke. Maybe it's just maybe I misunderstood. That is totally fair. Because again, I feel like you think about the protocol after a first date and it's usually just like trying to pick up on any clues if both of you want a second date. And I think if you pick that clue up, it's kind of like, okay, I'm just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm th.... I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. I. I th. I th. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I th. I thi. th. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. th. th. thi. that. that. that. that's that's that's that's that's that's that clue up, it's kind of like, okay, I'm just gonna back off. Yeah. But I only really suggested that because it does seem like he's pretty giddy about her. And I, like I've been there. I feel like it sucks when you're on a first date that you feel like you're vibing with.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And you thought that they were vibing, and then you're like, wait. I think that's the right advice and while I still wouldn't take it, while I wouldn't take that advice myself, I do see how that would be better if I were to do that because otherwise I am going to perpetually be thinking about that. Every time I see her I'm just not going to be able to stop thinking about, I'm going like, it's not that big of a deal. I'll be like, it's not that big that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that would that would be, and that would be, and that would be, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'd that, I'd that, I'd that, I'd be, I'd be, I'd be, I'd be that would be that would be that would be that would be, I'd be, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better that would be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd that, I'd that, I'd that, I'd that, I'd that, I'd that, I'd that, I'd that, I'd that, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be that, I'd be that, I'd be that, I'd be that's that's that's that, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be better, I'd be talking to myself, you shouldn't really be worrying about this. It's not to make it. And then I would just be constant, this loop. I wouldn't be able to, I wouldn't be able to be comfortable on a date until I talked about it. I would have to. And but I would try to bring it up very lightly, just like,
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Starting point is 00:10:16 Batman couldn't get this information out of me. But it's like people just straight up put it out there. And I'm like, wow, you're saying to the internet, you're about to go on a date you don't want to go on to go on to go on to go on to go on the to internet you're about to go on a date you don't want to go on. That's true. That does say a lot about you as well. If you were agreeing to dates that you don't want to. I think it would be a red flag for me, even if it was, even if I found out, oh, that's that wasn't really, that's an interesting topic that I feel like I've been discussing with a lot of my friends in general.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Like how much of yourself should you put out there publicly? Like especially for all of us, like we're internet personalities, how much of our truth are we wanting to share? And what maybe is best to keep like within a friend group? Like maybe personal stuff stuff that could hurt other people, maybe that shouldn't go public, but I personally don't see any problem with being like get ready with me to go on a date, like if you want to talk about you being out there in the dating world totally fair, but I think the line of
Starting point is 00:11:15 when it could hurt somebody and when you're maybe being a little naive about how widespread this TikTok could really go. Like, that is asshole behavior. Yeah. I'd definitely say less is more in terms of giving out private information as content. I've had periods of time where I daily vlogged every single moment in my life, every single moment of my relationship. I literally vlogged me getting engaged and obviously that didn't work out.
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Starting point is 00:12:05 Whoa. Someone said, I would message her and simply say, hey, your Tick-Talk about getting ready for a date popped up on my feed. I'm sorry you didn't want to go. You could have simply told me, and that would have been fine. If she messages back trying to explain or still express interest in you, simply turn her down. No further explanation required. People don't change behaviors if they aren't made aware that it affects other people. Someone else said, as an introvert with some social anxiety, I don't think I've ever wanted
Starting point is 00:12:31 to go on a first date. Even if I really liked the guy and wanted to go to the location, my mind would always convince me I was going to be unhappy. Luckily most of my first dates had been fine or great, sprinkle in a few duds. As an older woman, I don't understand this need to post everything that goes on in your life or in your mind. Sometimes it's nice just letting passing thoughts pass. But I also understand younger people grew up immersed in social media, and this is normal to them.
Starting point is 00:12:56 This person has made it clear that she's going to post things publicly that you may think should be private. That alone may drive you to decline any future dates with her. And if so, just let her know you saw her Tick-Tock and aren't comfortable with your dates being the subject of her videos. Be for warne, she may post about it. If you choose to see her again, I think it's worth having an honest conversation and setting your boundary around what you aren't comfortable with her posting. the date went. I think, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you think, you think, just thi, think, think, think, think, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi, thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thii. thi. thi. th favorite of those is just posting and saying how the date went. I think that's like, it's a snarky back. It's simple and it's like you get it done.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Yeah. And it's kind of like charming. I think it's kind of light where, because also the reality here is that they're in similar friend groups, they're going to end up hanging out again. Yeah. And so you don't want to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make the the to their to their their their their their their their their th. their th. th. th. th. thi. their th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thin. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. thin. th. I'm th. th. th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th end up hanging out again. And so you don't want to make it super awkward. It's one date, you can just still kind of like let it, let it go without making it tense between the two of you. That is so tricky. I honestly can't say what I would do because I don't know how often they interact. Right. Yeah. I think other people pointed out something really great, which is yeah, like how she's going to continue to act in the relationship. Because right, like if they have that conversation and
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Starting point is 00:14:30 So let's see what happens. Uh, so let's see what happens. Uh, hello, everyone. Some people have reached out to me through comments or chat asking for an update on the situation. Sadly, there isn't much to share at the moment, but I'll toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe, toe, the the toe, the the the the toe, toe, the toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, to, to, to, to, toe, their, they, they, they, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the. the. together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, toe.e. toe. the. the. the. their, the situation. Sadly, there isn't much to share at the moment, but I'll provide what I can. Please keep in mind that I won't be discussing this further, nor will I reply to comments. Thank you for your understanding. After last week's post, I read almost every comment, or at least most of them.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I'm thankful to all those who commented. While I agree with their perspective and see no fault in not feeling like going out, what bothered me the most in this situation was having a post, what bothered me the most in this situation was having to post a Tick-Tock for a significant audience. I'm a private person by nature, and even my social media accounts like Instagram have only a single post. I I I th th th th th th th th, I I I th like th like th like th like I I th like th like to th. I th. I the the the, I the, I the, I the, the, the, the, I the, I'm thi, I'm theat, I'm the their, I their, I their, I their, I'm, I'm their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, single post. I don't really like to overtly share, nor do I want to be with someone who does. It's completely fine to share whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I just don't want to be part of it. So, I decided not to contact her. I chose to pretend I had never seen the post and let things be. I understand a lot of people might think this isn't the best choice, for both of us. Last Thursday, a few friends who also happened to know her invited me for drinks. We went to a bar and while we were eating and enjoying our drinks, a mutual friend asked me how my date went, as our circle was aware that we were going on a date. I didn't want to say much so I just replied, oh it was good but I don't think we clicked. This friend followed it by saying we figured, which made me feel rather uneasy. When I asked what he was talking about, he hesitated but eventually said that he had, that they had seen a Tick-Tock post from her about not wanting to go out. At this
Starting point is 00:16:09 point, I didn't really know what to say. This situation is just incredibly messy for me, but there's not much I can do about it. Still, I wasn't going to mention it, nor did I try to look up if there, there was any update. the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. thi, I tip. tip, I th tm. th th thi, I thi, I thi, I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I t. tt. ttttttttttttoda. today, today, today, that incident. It just wasn't doing me any good. Nevertheless, this past Saturday, she sent me a text. She mentioned that she enjoyed our date and asked if I wanted to go out again. I understand that she clearly stated that she enjoyed our time together. However, I don't want to be with someone who exposed so much of their personal life. It's not something that would be good for me. So I decided to tell her the truth and sent a text explaining that while I absolutely enjoyed our date, her company, and that I thought she was an amazing woman, her post from the night of our date came across my for you page on Tick-Tock and it made me feel
Starting point is 00:16:53 really self-conscious. While I understand that she enjoyed the date, contrary to what she felt, the today, and I thinininin, their, thin, thin, thin, thin, and, and, thin, and, and, thin, and, thin, and, thin, and, thin, thr, and, thr, and, thr, and, tho, and, tho, and, and, and, and, and, tho, and, tho, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, th, th, tho, tho, tho, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. And, th. I wished her the best and expressed hope that she finds someone whose lifestyle aligns with her. She has read the message and left me on red ever since. I don't think she will reply and I don't think we'll have a lot of social interactions going forward. I'm sorry if this wasn't the update you guys were expecting. But yeah, sadly, that's what the situation became. Anyhow, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish, wish that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho, the. thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean.ean. thean. thean. the. everyone a good day. Wow. That's curious. I got to be honest, I'm a little surprised she did ask him out again. Yeah. It has me leaning towards
Starting point is 00:17:32 the thought that maybe it was a social anxiety thing of like, oh I don't want to go on a date like, oh god. Yeah. I would have to see this Tick Talk, you know, but I also think he made the right choice because it just sounds like he's recognizing we're just such different people. And that's a fair thing to do. Oh yeah, no, he's a king. I think he was so calm and he wasn't like, he wasn't attacking of her in any way. Like he was like, that's your life, like this is how it made me feel. But also I just don't think that this is going to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work the to work to work the the to work tho tho tho tho thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toeeean. ti. tean. tean. tean. te. te. te. thea. thea. thea. thea. thi. I just don't think that this is going to work out because of that. And I think it says a lot that she didn't respond. Like I think usually when you, in a lot of cases, like not responding to somebody putting
Starting point is 00:18:14 their feelings out there, I think it's really immature. Absolutely. Like he was he was being just so honest and again like he said that he he wishes her the best and things like that like th. I I I I I I I I I I I I I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi. thi. I'm thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi her the best and things like that like I would think that she just got embarrassed and was like oh god I got a go yeah and again another sign that that relationship wouldn't work out had she maybe responded and been like I'm so embarrassed this is why I thi that that or like I shouldn't have done that I'm sorry I made a mistake like I'm sure he would have been like totally to to be a th I to be a to to th I to to th I to th I to to th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the. the. I the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the. I the. I the. I the. I'm the the the the the the the the the to theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the the the the th, totally fine, let's do that second date. I also feel it's poignant to bring up again, and it's not usually fair, but you know, she's 28 years old.
Starting point is 00:18:51 It's like, dude, by 28, you should be able to withstand a conversation that makes you uncomfortable. You should be able to respond. Like, I understand when people are like, tea, like your early 20s you're still like gaining your confidence you're still figuring out how to interact with certain situations but by 26, 28 like come on you can show some respect. That's crazy behavior. It's disrespectful at any age but the older you get the more I'm just kind of like you didn't learn it by now? Right. You know like at a certain't learn it by now. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:25 You know, like at a certain point, you figure it out. I think it takes a lot of courage to have boundaries and to express those boundaries and at the same time be respectful in those. And he really was firm. He said, I don't think this is going to work. And she was so communicative tothat's why she didn't respond. Right. And for him to have like put on such a good date for her to like completely 180, he sounds like a great guy. Absolutely and you know bravo to him for he caught, he saw the red
Starting point is 00:19:55 flags that were red flags to him and he said I'm calling it here and I respect that. King. King. Yeah, King. King. King. All right, moving on. This next one is an Am I the Assault post. Now you can find out who's the asshole. We'll determine this time. Oh my God. It's not. Oh no. Don't read ahead. Am I the asshole for showing up at my ex's wedding in a pretty dress? Oh my God. Oh, what? It's not. Oh, you are not? Oh, okay. Oh, no. Oh, no, you the the you. Oh, no, no, no, no, you you you you you you you you you you you you you the you you you the the you you you you you the you you you you you you can you can you can you you you you you you you the you you, you you you you, you, you, you, you, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you you you you you you you you you you the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the the the thi the the the the the the thi the thi thi thi thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi the asshole for showing up at my ex's wedding in a pretty dress? You know this is the girl. It's funny because it's funny because you know that their interpretation was that I just showed it to the wedding in a pretty dress. That was it? The fact that you know there's more to it. It wasn't just that.
Starting point is 00:20:40 There's absolutely more, but just from that, you're not an assu. You did good, girly. My ex and I had a peaceful divorce. We co-parent our three children together and there haven't really been many issues. My ex is getting married to Stephanie. I like Stephanie. She has been great with my kids and makes my ex happy. My ex invited me to the wedding, and I was happy for him. the thii toe to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the their their their their their their their their thea. thea. thea. theax, the, their th. the, their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. We their. We their. We their. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. thea. theat theat theat. Wea. theat. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. Wea. Wea. We are thea. made sense for me to come. That was his reasoning. When I arrived at the wedding, Stephanie thanked me for dropping the kids off and brushed me off. We had never had any issues before. I explained that I was going to stay for the reception.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And she was very upset. I was confused because I assumed she knew I would be in attendance. It turned out she didn't consider that I would actually accept the invitation. I toled the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the the the the the the they.a, they.a, they.s, they.s, theyyyyyyr.s, theyyr.s, theyyr.s, the the th the tea, th thr-s, the invitation. I told her that I was invited and since I took the two-hour drive, I would be staying for the entire duration. She didn't like this response. Stephanie asked me to leave and I stood my ground. She went on to complain about my dress upstaging hers. My ex and former mother-in-law helped her to calm down, and the wedding shortly began. I thought that that was the end of it, but later in private, Stephanie accused me of trying to ruin her special day. She is convinced that I wanted to show off and make the wedding about my divorce. She said it was rude for me to not leave after the bride requested it because it was her special day. I told her that I am not responsible for her insecurities and once again reminded her that I have no interest in stealing my ex back. Okay, we have the dress. Oh, there's the dress in question.
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Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah. I mean, it is a wedding dress, it's just not white. If it's white, that is blatant. Okay, yeah, no. But it isn't, the white, she's an ass. You know, when you're going to a wedding of any sort, you're not going to look up wedding dresses and wear a wedding dress. No, no, but you do look up like wedding guest dresses and you know sometimes bridal gets thrown into the description. I will also say, this is not, I am not aware of this information.
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Starting point is 00:25:34 but this dress is pretty nice. Like I'm like, damn, that's, comments down below. Let us know what you think. With Indian weddings, like what I can say is like, the bride is like, there's, right, right, right, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, th, th, th, they, th, you, you, you, like, you, like, you, like, like, you. With Indian weddings, what I can say is like, the bride is like, there's a lot more to her than the dress. Like, she's got jewelry, she's got mann thee from head to toe. Like, she is all out. And personally, for my wedding, like, I want all of my friends to go all out. I want everybody to dress like in Indian clothes as well. I don't, I wouldn't think of it as like an upstaging or whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:07 But then like when you bring in the whole like, I know white is so big for traditional American weddings. And if that dress was white, like I'm livid, I'm on, I'm on the bride side, like you cannot do that. So if that's the case in terms of like the glam factor of this dress and it really did upset the bride like it's kind of hard to be upset at the bride for for feeling like that it is her special day. I think the context to of like this is his ex who has kids with like you know if you're some random
Starting point is 00:26:43 person at the wedding and you wear this it's like okay whatever right but you know, like, if you're some random person at the wedding and you wear this, it's like, okay, whatever. Right. But you know walking into this wedding that you are. Also, yeah, just not the, not just the ex, but we have three children together and we will always be connected in some way. Right. But I will say the moment the bride, if I were there, if the moment the bride asked the bride asked the bride asked the bride asked the bride the bride the bride the bride the bride the bride the bride the bride the bride the bride the bride the bride the bride the bride to the bride the bride to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toea to to to to to to told. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe. toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toea. toea... toea. toea. toea. toea. the thea. the thea. the thea. thea. thea. thea. toea. the thea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toeathat the bride, if I were there, if the moment the bride asked me to leave, even if it was a two-hour drive, I would not feel comfortable staying there anymore at
Starting point is 00:27:08 that point. I think I would have personally left, even if it was an uncomfortable two-hour drive home, just because I don't want to be there to try and I don't want to be there. Personally. or something like, I don't want to be there anymore. I'd get away. I'm in a hot dress and I'm going anywhere out. Go out. Be seen. So the comments, looking at the comments very quickly, solidifies my opinion on this. So someone asked, can you show us the dress,
Starting point is 00:27:37 which means she didn't put that photo up immediately. Oh, she was trying to withhold that information. And that's one of th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho to withhold that information. And that's one of those things where when people do that and Reddit post, I'm like, you're the asshole. Yeah, the moment that they're withholding. You were trying to get public favor without giving us the most important piece of information. Yeah. You're the asshaw, that's the asshue.
Starting point is 00:27:54 that happens all the time when they're they they they they they they they they they the dress. She made people go to her profile to see the book. She gave them the referral link so if they bought it she'd get a commission. So that person who asked to see the dress they said after seeing the dress you're the asshole. That dress is too much for a guest at a wedding. Way too bright and unless this was a super elegant, too much. I doubt it is too elegant as you said barely any dress code was given besides no white. Someone else said not the asshole. Personally I think you should have left but I don't think you're the asshole for wearing a pretty dress and not leaving. Reason being Stephanie had two chances before her wedding day to address this. First she could have made sure you were not sent an invite.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Second she could have rescinded the invite once you RSVPed. Yes, it's her own fault for waiting until you showed up to deal with this. She ruined her own wedding day. Edit. I just saw the picture of the dress. Ha ha ha ha ha. There's no way you didn't know that would be too much for a wedding ex. Especially an ex. Are you kidding me? I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but now that I just saw a picture of the dress, you're the asshole. You absolutely knew what you were doing. Stop trying to pretend like you didn't.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Lastly, someone said, you wore a red lace wedding dress. thein dress. I saw the Amazon link you posted. It's literally a wedding dress just in red. You knew what you were doing. The listing says wedding dress. Yeah, for me, it's a little bit of the choice of like, it's one thing if you have a dress and it ends up accidentally, but it says wedding dress.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Right. I feel like that's easy to be like, I should find a different one. And you're so right about the way that she put it out there as incriminating her further. Because the headline, I wore a pretty dress. We were like, you did nothing wrong girlie, and then you pull out the dress, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you're, and you're, and you're, and you're, and you're, the the th, the the th, th, the th, th, th, th, the th, thin, thin, th, thin, th, th, th, thi, thin, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin-I, thin-I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I th, I th, I th, I, I th, I, I, I, I th, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I I I th, I th, I the th, I the the the the thin, I thin, I thin, thin, thin, thin, the, thin, the, the, thin, the. theee. theat, thin, the. thee. the. the, the, out the dress and you're like that's much more than a pretty dress. That's a full bridal gown and it is again the context of showing up to that knowing that your ex is the one getting married like it was intentional she left the dress out intentionally like she knows that what she did maybe wasn't the best thing and then she put it out there in a coerced way
Starting point is 00:30:06 of being like guys I just wore a pretty dress like tell me that this girl is crazy and everyone's like oh yeah but let's see that dress lame key key factor in all of this. It almost feels like it should be a tell-tell tell sign if you are writing a thing and then you're about to say or like you think that someone's that someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone the to be the to be the to be the the the the to be the the th so thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi thi thi thi that's thi that's thi thi that's thi thi thi thi thi that's thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. the thi. the the. the. the. that's the. that's that's that's that's tell that's that's that's that's that'sto say, or like you think that someone's going to want some information, but you're like, hmm, I probably shouldn't say that. Yeah. Yeah. I probably shouldn't show the picture. No. That's the sign right there.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Right, because then you know that you are the one in the wrong, but you're like, but I don't want to seem to that. Yeah. that's so to happen so to happen so to happen so to happen so to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the to be the to be the to be to be the to be to be that's. the that's. that. that. that. that. that's that's that's the the the that's that's that's that's that's that's the that's the that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. thro. thro. throoooo. thro. thing. thing. thing. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that from relationship advice but this also ended up being posted on Am I the Devil? Which is the worst place to end up. Is that the worst of the asshole? Yeah this is Am I the Devil's where they they gather up all the worst of the worst. Ooh. This is a 32-year-old man. I asked my wife who's 30 if we could open the relationship. She agreed and I'm feeling upset because although she's bisexual, she's only sleeping with men. Wait, sorry. He thought opening the relationship would mean she'd sleep with women.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Yeah. And he's like fine with that. Oh, God. No. I feel like this is one of our, we haven't read many posts like this. I see posts like this on Reddit all the time., oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, tho, tho, tho, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. tho, the, one of our, we haven't read many posts like this. I see posts like this on Reddit all the time. Oh yeah. Of people being like, yeah, we opened up our relationship and now things are going really bad.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Like, it's, she's took it up with other guys. What it is, is the, it's, what I've seen on Reddit is, the guy being like, okay, wait, we shouldn't do this. Let's see what this one is. Uh, 32 year old man and my wife is 30. After five years of marriage, I felt like she had given me all she had to offer. All right. Well, I want to leave. I'm going to get out of here. You know what?
Starting point is 00:32:01 You know what, let's pack this one up. She had nothing else to give me. He is the devil. I sucked her dry of everything she was worth. I got everything she had to offer. That's wild to say. I thought she had a few more years of something to offer me, but only five years. She just lays there now.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Now please don't judge me for saying that. He knows he's an asshole when he says that. But at least he's not holding back. He's not going to get to do that there. All right, I'm with him. I'm just being all this. No, of course. She just had a very low sex drive and I have a higher one. I figured opening the relationship would help out marriage and help me get my needs met. She originally said no, but after I explained to her the benefits, she said yes after a few days of asking. We seem both excited at the possibility of a threesome. Now, where the problem lies is that my wife is bisexual, and yet the only people she's been sleeping with,
Starting point is 00:32:56 have been men. When asked about this, she said she only sleeps with people she clicks with and they just happen to be men. When I told her my feelings about this, she said it's only fair because I'm sleeping with other women. While true, it makes me wonder if she's truly bisexual. No. Now he's questioning her sexuality? When I asked her, when I asked for her to also the marriage again. Hey babe, I have a request. Sleep with other women, please.
Starting point is 00:33:25 But babe, please. But babe. Or I'd want to close the marriage again. She rolled her eyes and said, no. One of the guys I fear is trying to seriously date her. He brings her flowers and food, pays for her nails, and never even acknowledges me getting frustrated. I want to close our marriage again. How do I approach this? Damn, this guy's treating you're better than me.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Yeah, literally. I was treating her like shit because I was done with her. She had nothing else to offer me. Now I see that she's worth something. You, this is so, this is so messed up. I don't think there's anything wrong. I personally know I wouldn't be able to ever do it, but I don't think there's anything wrong with people opening up their marriage. I think what people want to do is fine.
Starting point is 00:34:10 But when people do it as a means of fixing something in their relationship, I'm like, I think that's wrong. And I think any time, there are therapists who literally, there are sex therapists though, who you can talk to and be like, we're thinking of this. And they can be like, let's make sure this is what you both really want.
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Starting point is 00:35:05 And it's, and frankly, and I'm reading into this, but it sounds like she didn't have a low sex drive, it sounds like they weren't fostering their relationship in the connection, so she wasn't into it. And here he is saying she's given me all's not attracted to you. Yeah, like, that's your mindset? Sounds like she's attracted to people that she clicks with, she said that, and they just were not clicking, and it sounds like this man who felt like
Starting point is 00:35:32 this woman was worthless to him at this point, was not showing her that she had the value to him, that maybe he was showing her in the relationship, when maybe they he he he he he he he they they the they they they they their they they their they their they they their maybe they clicked better, maybe their sex life was better in the beginning. Right, right. He jumped to a solution, which is what he thought was opening up the relationship when it literally could have been communicating, seeing a therapist, going to some couples counseling, like actually coming up with what would be better, instead of just being like, oh, well, wait, maybe if she sleeps with other women, then she'll feel more enlightened and sexy and then she can offer me more again.
Starting point is 00:36:09 At no point did he mention her needs. That's true. It's entirely about his needs and now that they've opened up the relationship, she's now getting her needs met and he's upset about that. And it's like clearly she doesn't have a low sex drive, she doesn't want to have sex with you. Yeah, it's because he obviously didn't treat her as if she had value anymore. Even the way that he discusses her, she had nothing else to offer. Yeah. Her only, it seems like her only worth to him is sex. Is based on his description here. Now it's a short post, but let's read some comments here.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Please. Maybe you were the reason she had a low sex drive and now she found someone else who finds her exciting. You opened the marriage. You have to deal with the consequences. There are many threads on Reddit where one wants to open the marriage and the other finds a better partner. Maybe that is what is happening withue. That's the truth. Someone said, L-O-L, I too am rolling my eyes at you. You made this bed, now lie in it. Someone else said, cool, the reality didn't live up to your fantasy.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Lesson learned. You can't dictate who your wife sleeps with. That's gross. Also, as a woman sleeping with men is a tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. thiiiii. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiolk, thoomomomomomome. thi. thi. tooome, tooom. tooom. too. too. that's. that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that is. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's that's toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. that's that's that's that's the. the.'s much harder to find women who are open to hooking up with by-partnered women. And then lastly someone said, well, that's way too many words to justify cheating on your wife and hoping you would get a threesome with some hot women as an additional bonus for being a cheating clown. There's no way your hopeless ass had no one ready and on the standby before this pathetic attempt to open your marriage the way you wanted. L-L-L well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well the the they they they they they th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi. And the the the. the. And the. And the. And the. And the. And the. And the. And the. And th. And th. And th. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. thi. the. the. And the. the. the. thean. thean. thean. theatee. theeeeeate. thee. the. the. the. the. th pathetic attempt to open your marriage the way you wanted. L-O-L, what a heartwarming story. Tell your wife she's a rock star.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if he cheated because he did, but he did pester her until she said yes. It seems that's the case. Yeah. Yeah. Also he's like, I want to open it and I want to close it. And it's like, then he wants to open it. Then it just seems like he wanted to all be whatever will meet his needs in a very
Starting point is 00:38:07 specific time without ever considering her. And I think that's what the issue is at the root. Yeah, he's like you'll catch up if I want to open it. If I want to just be that will happen without him putting in the effort of the work in order for him to actually see the results that he wants he's given up on her he could be working harder to show her that he's a good partner that he cares about her maybe she would actually find him attractive again yeah you know who else does that the devil this guy is a devil I would also say he's just really stupid yeah I think he's very emotionally immature I thi th th th he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he has he has he has he has he has he has he has he has not he is he has not he has he has he has he has he has he has he's he's he has he is he is he is he is he he he is he he is he he is he he is he he is not he he is he he is he he is he he is he he is he he is he he is he he is he he is he he is he he is he he is he he is he he is not he is not he is not he is not he is not he is not he is not he is not he is not th thi to thi to to to to thi to to to to thi thi to thi thi to thi thi he's he he he he just really stupid. Yeah. I think he's very emotionally immature. I think he has not done work on himself.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I think he has not ever maybe spoken about where these feelings are coming from. It seems like he hasn't even tried to communicate with his wife about these feelings. Yeah. Seems like he just came up with an assumption of like, oh, well, she doesn't have anything else to offer me anymore, instead of like discussing why the relationship has become stagnant. All right, next story here. Oh. This is Am I the A. That's never a good side.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Stop reading ahead. That's how you started the last one. No, I didn't see the title. And I'm just like, this was also marriage man. Am I the devil for making my ex in quotations, homeless? Okay, I'm trying to think of a way that's justified like they both own a house together and they moved out and she didn't have as much money or something, but let's, where does this go? Okay, so if this, if reading this title out loud, the way it's written is,
Starting point is 00:39:46 Am I the assel for making my ex homeless? A while back, my wife and I got divorced, pretty amicably. Instead of selling our family home and splitting the money, I suggested that I take a loan using the house as collateral, and by myself another place. That way she could continue to live to live to live to live to live to live to live to live to live to live to live to live to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, I. the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I....... the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoom. thoom. the. the. the. thooooooooooooooom. the the the the the the the th. the the the the the. the the continue to live there and our kids would inherit it eventually. She was reluctant but eventually I convinced her. She's always been like that. Her reluctance to taking any chances has held me
Starting point is 00:40:11 back many times. Anyway, this was a good plan and it worked for a while. Eventually, however, I ran into money trouble. Everything was more expensive than I thought. The fixer-upor I bought needed a lot of renovation and I got deeper in debt. I kept paying the bank just not every month, sometimes less than the full amount due for the month, etc. Eventually the bank foreclosed and the house was sold to repay the debt. It was a shock to everyone. The bank had sent some threatening letters but as I was still paying, I didn't think they'd go that far. Anyway, my ex moved in with our youngest son. She is doing fine and is not in any way homeless, but she keeps complaining about losing the
Starting point is 00:40:47 house and my kids have gone low contact with me. They all go out of their way to help their mom while I only get scraps every now and then, even though I also needed help sometimes since then. I know I made a mistake, but it's not like I planned it like this. I lost a lot too. And even though I have the house that I bought back then, it's nothing fancy and it's expensive to maintain. Besides, my ex-got to live a loan in the house for a couple of years, rent free. Last time we met, I told my kids they should show more gratitude for my part in raising them. And they should think that they have two parents, not just one. They're all all all all all all doing all doing all doing all doing thing thing thing thininin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, thi, that, that, tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, the, th, th, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th for demanding anything of them after what I did to their mom. They said I should give her some money every month
Starting point is 00:41:28 to compensate for some of the loss. While I do earn more than her, I have expenses too, and it's not like she needs it really. She's living rent free and our son is pretty well off, so he won't be kicking her out. I admit that my plann't plan plan plan plan plan plan plan plan plan plan plan plan plan plan plan. work out and it caused her some loss, but am I really such an asshole for expecting my kids to help me too, like they help my ex? Oh boy. That is a lot to unpack.
Starting point is 00:41:51 It is a lot to unpack. I am, I don't know if it's a bias or just from reading a lot of these Reddit stories, whenever it's a parent and at any point they talk about their kids being low or no contact, I immediately am just kind of like, well you're probably the asshole. Like, it takes a lot for your kids to be like, by. Multiple kids to all be like, we don't want to deal with you. He was like, this was a good plan. She was reluctant.
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Starting point is 00:42:51 It's a huge risk. And then it's like, oh, I ended up in money troubles. It's like, well, yeah, like, that's the actual risk that you knew could happen. Totally. And it seems like she was aware that it could happen too. I feel bad for her. Yeah, my problem with this guy is that he came up with this plan and when it inevitably failed, he's like, well, but it was good enough for a while. And he's like, like, you lived rent free for multiple years. Yeah, he's like it failed, but it took time for it to fail. Yeah, and in that time that it wasn't, it hadn't failed yet. to thrown. the to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. the th. th. the the th. the the th. the th. th. that. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thee. theeeee. the. theee. the. the. the. the. the. to fail. And in that time that it hadn't failed yet, you got to live in that house rent-free. And now that it failed, and he is still living in his own place, he's like, well, you guys are doing fine. Like, you had everything that I gave you, and now you should help me out.
Starting point is 00:43:37 And it's like, no, you made a huge mistake, and you're not taking any accountability. I am sure that the ex and the kids would be able to hear him out if he was like Huge mistake like let's let's maybe have my place as where we both coexist for a bit like Trying to come up with some sort of troubleshooting instead he justified every moment of it. Yeah, and he's just like well I'm going through it. I need help and you're like no you're not offering anything else. And I have I have some theories you know he said eventually the bank foreclosed on the house he's like it was a shock to everyone. The bank had sent me some threatening letters but as I was still paying I didn't think they'd go that far I think it was either not a shock to everyone or it was a shock. to to the shock. the shock. to to the shock. to to their. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was not. It was not. It was not. It was not. It was not. It was not. It was not. It was not. It was not. It was not. It was not. It was not. It was not. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. It was not. It was a shock. It was either not a shock to everyone, or it was a shock to everyone because he wasn't relaying this information. You're getting threatening letters from the bank, like, dude, he just brushes it off. He's like, I didn't think it was not serious.
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Starting point is 00:45:34 Comments here. I'd bet money this wasn't the first promise he didn't keep. Someone else said, L-O-L, wife always held you back, huh? But when you go solo, you fail so spectacularly that you lose both houses and whatever goodwill remained with your family, yep, you're the asshole. Love the passive voice on why you failed with the renovation. Everything was more expensive. Not, I didn't do my research or have an actual feasible plan. True. Someone else said, you're the asshole. Foreclosure is not something that happens overnight.
Starting point is 00:46:07 You 100% knew it was coming and didn't tell her. That's what I believe. Yeah. At last, lastly, someone said, you're the asshole. The house should have been sold instead of you taking a loan using the house. Your inability to pay the loan causes foreclosure of the house causing your ex and youngest to move. Did you even give her any of the money from the sale of the house? Finally, your kids don't owe you anything. Clearly they can see that your
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Starting point is 00:46:52 After screwing everyone over the inside. Yeah. Hey, come on. Just being like you have two parents, you know, it's like has clearly gone through it with you. He's acting like his decisions only affected, you know, it's bad enough, but he's acting like it only affected his wife, but it affected everyone in the family. Yeah. Eventually, however, I ran into money trouble.
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Starting point is 00:48:16 Look man, banks don't give a shit. Like, they really don't. I feel like this guy is used to like skipping out on taxes this year, skipping jury duty. He's like, it's not really that serious. No, a bank will ruin your life. Yeah, they're true. And it sounds like he still literally did not learn his lesson. He's like, well, at least we were good for a while.
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Starting point is 00:49:06 I don't think it was a good plan. I don't think it was a good plan. I know who else does that? The devil? The devil. The devil. Moving on. Am I the sexual harassment
Starting point is 00:49:26 training course, thing, like the online course. I think this is literally one of the examples. Yeah, pretty sure. They show like these two guys like, oops, I accidentally left this message here in front of my colleague and it's like, that is a no no. And it's like that person looks at the camera and they're like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th.. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, that, th. Yeah, like, th. Yeah, like, like, th. Yeah, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,they're like, what do I do? I would kill to be an actor in one of those. I did those ones. I did those ones in college. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bet I could find them too. What was it for? I did it for like inside of high schools, like if students are asking teachers like I can't afford my textbooks, could you help me out? Oh? And then the professor would be like, the professor, like th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi thate did thateateateateateat. I did tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th. I did th. I did th. I did th. I did did did did did did did th. I did did th. I did did th. I did th. I did th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. Did the. Did the. I the. Did the. Did the. Did the. Did the. I tho. Did tho. Did the. Did the. I the. be like, what do I do? So this is something they show to the professors to say like, this might happen to you.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah, yeah. I definitely have the footage, you guys, and I'm willing to share. That's crazy. Oh, it's insane. Am I the asshole for leaving sexually explicit messages where my colleague could see them? I, a 35-year-old woman, a thirty-year-year-year-year-year-year-year-year-year-year-year-year-year-old woman, I'm a teacher at an alternative school where each class has two teachers. My co-teacher, who's 34, is very in your face, in your business, and doesn't understand boundaries very well. She is always looking over my shoulder. She will straight up yank my laptop away from me and look at what I'm typing. If my phone goes off, she goes, ooh, who who is that? And things of that nature. I've gently thiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, I's, I's, I's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-a, th. th. th. th. th. thr-i, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thri. theei. thr. thr. thri. thei. thr. thr. thea explain to her that I don't want her touching my stuff like that. She'll say stuff like, oh, well, I'm an open book, it's no big deal. When I've explained less gently to her, she borderline cries and gets into an anxiety loop, where
Starting point is 00:50:52 she accuses me of being mean and or mad at her. I'm currently in a long distance, relationship and I rely a lot on sexting to keep our relationship funn, toe, their, thia, thia, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and I, and I's, and I's, thi, thi, thi, and I's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, and, thri, and, and, tooooooooooooooooooooooi. And, thr-s, thi. When, th different time zone, so the things I send him at night won't get responses until the next morning sometimes. Today I noticed he was sending me text responses to photos I had taken last night about what they made him want to do with me. I want to point out quickly that there were no kids in this room at this time and even if one had wandered in, they're too short to get my phone and too young to read. I decided to leave my phone on a tall standing desk by my own laptop while going to get a cup of coffee, knowing my co-teacher would probably look at it. When I got back, my co-teacher told me in a very serious voice that I need to be careful about what I am doing at work because she saw my disgusting and in a todeaaauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.... thiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm told, told told to thi thi. I'm told told told told told told told told told told told told told told to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. I their their their their their their their the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the thean, thean theat thei. thau. told told told told s? I told her she wouldn't have seen them if she hadn't been looking for them. And she said that wasn't the point
Starting point is 00:51:48 that she felt sexually harassed but wouldn't go to HR about it because the children wouldn't be able to handle a change in teachers. Wow! Oh! I am actually curious about just like legally and HR-wise, the interpretation of that. Let me, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, the interpretation of that. Let me, because we've had stories like this before. I think anyone who is like invasive in this way is an asshole. You're an asshole. Whether an HR person would say that what she did was wrong, whether she, but I also am like,
Starting point is 00:52:17 but I also am like, I never, I never see what's on anyone's phone. Ever. Like, I do view that on my personal level, I do view that as almost like what's going on in your head. Like I'm like, that's your own private space. Like that's, I'm not going to see that, so I don't really care. So I don't know where I stand on this because I ultimately just think this person sounds annoying as fuck. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Oh yeah. Oh yeah, who is it? Like, sure, if you're like one of my best friends and my phone goes off, like I'm going to tell you to text me. Even if you're your best friend at work, you're not doing this. No, that's like when you're hanging out, somebody's phone's going off you might be like who's calling but like I agree people's business are their own business like you have really no right I love what you said like yeah it's their head it's their thoughts that they're like typing out to other people particularly too in this relationship that is
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Starting point is 00:53:45 We've had stories like this, and I know a lot of people disagree with me on it, and I think that's okay, because I do think this person's an assel. I think you're an assel if you're invasive in any sort of way. But it's the matter of purposefully, like knowing in your head they're about to see this and you want them to see it. Do you think that's what it was like she wanted? She knowing my co-teacher would probably look at it. She said that. I left it there knowing my co-teacher. Now I can't relate to that because I just wouldn't want anyone to see it. Right. Especially if I don't know what my like a significant other is gonna say you're like fuck. There work time and you teach kids. Now there were no kids in the room, but it's like you don't know what your partner might
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Starting point is 00:55:12 Yeah. My privacy is being invaded. Yeah. Totally. It is funny that she threatened the HR thing when she could have had HR called on her this entire time. Certainly. The verdict was everyone sucks. OK. I see it. I see it. Someone said, everyone sucks here. She shouldn't have been snooping.
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Starting point is 00:56:08 O.P. said, kids are pre-K. They were at recess and couldn't come back without an adult escort walking them past the break room where I was getting coffee. Standing desk is at the back corner. I had my phone my laptop and the wall. The only way for her to see the text is to walk to the back corner, lean over my laptop, and tap the screen to see previews. I was gone for a maximum of five minutes. 41 down votes, but I mean, like, if it was truly like that's secure and she had to to tap it to look at it, I mean, I would hate someone who's doing them. Yeah. I would hate them. They, no, definitely, she should have reported the invasive person and that could have all been avoided.
Starting point is 00:56:50 I, I think the verdict makes sense, everyone sucks, but I don't think that the person who, again, like she said, she wasn't sexting at work, she was just like, I'm not even going to respond to this because I'm at work, I'm with, I'm with, I'm with, I'm with, I'm with, I'm with, I'm with, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th.......... I, th, th, th, th, th, th.a, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I'm, thi, thi, thi, to, toeea, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm with these kids, like she left it there. It's a good question of, I'm so, I have so many questions of like, are you responsible for texts you received? Right. Like if you didn't send anything inappropriate but someone happens to send you something inappropriate and your phone is out, is that your responsibility? I feel like it wouldn't be your responsibility, but in this case it is her responsibility because this is a habit and routine. This is something, it sounds like she knew this was happening and she, it sounds like it was a conscious decision to leave
Starting point is 00:57:36 the previews on the phone. Yeah, it's something I am conflicted about and I'm so curious what our comments will say. Well, here's what I'll alsoed about and I'm so curious what our comments will say. Well, here's what I'll also say with HR getting involved. She would have a much stronger case if this wasn't a habit or a pattern. I just am confident that that HR person would be like, has this happened before where she touches your phone? And the answer will be like, oh yeah, she does it all the time. And then it's like, okay, well, why didn't you report that?
Starting point is 00:58:05 Right. Like, that is a huge privacy matter that could have then avoided this whole situation. Someone, last comment here is it's not so much about whether you're an asshole or not, but rather whether you'd be willing to lose your job just to be shocking to this woman. Probably not not a a smart a smart a smart a smart, thiii. smart move career-wise. I think that's what I agree with. Yeah. Most of all, I'm like, you purposefully left previews up. She was trying to be shocking.
Starting point is 00:58:27 You were trying to show this to him. And I'm like, that's where I get it. Because I know that that would cross my mind too. If I was dealing with an invasive person where I'd be like, You're risking a lot for that for that catharsis. I feel like there's something unspoken here, because I want to know why is she trying to have her see this. If it was just a little funny prank, I might put, I might have my partner text me something that was about that person as a joke or something, but it was just random little... Well, let's see, because...
Starting point is 00:59:03 Oh, thank God! We need this update! So I decided to take everyone's advice and went to HR about my colleague snooping, and they determined she is in the wrong for snooping and that I hadn't done anything wrong since. Great. I don't send any non-work-related texts at work unless it's my lunch break, and I never text my boyfriend from work, which is backed up by C. Keep my phone in my work apron whenever kids might be around. My co-teacher has hers out often, so I usually know when we're getting work-related messages
Starting point is 00:59:32 because she sees them first and is incapable of not commenting on them verbally. I had put my phone in a discreet corner of the room, in the back of my desk, between my laptop and the wall. My colleague had walked to the back of the room as soon as the door shut behind me, leaned across my laptop and tapped the screen to view text previews after my screen had gone dark and picked up my phone to look at them, which was on CCTV.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Ooh, Jesus. You cannot do that. No, that's absolutely insane. A few other clarifications. I I the the the the tha tha tha tha tha tha, I I thuu, I thu, thu, thu, thu, thus, thus, thus, th, thus, thus, th, th, thus, thus, tho, thus, thi, thus, the too, the too, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t, t, t, t, t, t. ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta.. ta. ta.. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta,ifications. I have text previews on and image previews off. Pictures just show up as the word image in my preview. The reason I have text previews turned on is that my job uses the same messaging app as my boyfriend, and when you're working with kids, it's good to be able to see what's going on immediately rather than logging in and slogging through a dozen text through the work group chat and I don't reply outside of designated hours and they hate being left on red.
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Starting point is 01:01:26 My phone was only visible to someone who was looking for it and who would have to tap the screen and pick up the phone to look at the previews. So that's it. Was it petty and risky for me to do what I did? For sure. Should I have complained to HR on my tune. sooner, yes, I wouldn't recommend it, but it's done and hopefully snooping is now over. Yeah, some context here too. Even though she's using her phone for work, if her job is not paying for her cell phone
Starting point is 01:01:52 or providing a separate work phone, they likely cannot police what content is on her phone. Interesting. Oh. Yeah, knowing that this woman walked up, like grabbed her phone, like, tapping someone else's phone, insane. I was just thinking like, imagine literally anybody in the room, just you walking in and them being on your phone, you would immediately be like, what are you doing? Like, that's inappropriate.
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Starting point is 01:02:46 I mean, it's true. Everything is house to the air. It's no different than looking through someone's email inbox or looking through, you know, it's like looking through someone's safe in their house. It is the same. And I'm like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like stuff that like their thoughts are out there it's it's more just that no you you are putting things down on your phone that you aren't expecting other people to see like that is the big thing is that you feel safe and private in your phone you feel safe texting another person
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Starting point is 01:03:50 She wanted to shock her. She wanted to make her feel bad about snooping. And that's not the, we've had stories like that before. And I get it. I get that like, well, they're not going to stop doing it, so I want to make them. But especially in a work setting, you should go about it professionally. Yeah. Because seeking out that revenge, you might sacrifice your job in the process. Right. And she admits she could have gone to HR sooner, but instead she took the route of, I'm
Starting point is 01:04:17 going to shock them because it sounds would see, it almost seems like that. It seems a little planned out, but I am fully in forgiveness of her because it sounds like she is holding responsibility for all of it. Yeah, it's also wild that this all happened with when they have CCTV. And I'm like, oh, it's there. You're saying she's grabbing your devices, it's on camera. And they could go back through all the CCTV footage and they did and they all the times that this woman's grabbing her shit. Yeah I'm just I'm imagining it too and the desk is just in this corner and if she's saying like it's between her laptop
Starting point is 01:04:50 and the wall it could not be further away. Yeah. Children from her work space like this other woman is intentionally trying to go over, pick up the phone, and then act like it affected her and like she is the victim of this situation. Sounds like this invasive person just always has on their mind like what's on everyone else's phones? Right. What's on their phones? It's like the last thing. I don't understand that mindset. Yeah. I'm a private person. I also really try to respect other people's privacy. As you should. All right. Last story. Am I the a last story. Am. Last story. th. th. Last story. th. th. th. th. th. Last story. th. th. th. th. th. th. Last story. th. th. th. Last story. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. What's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's. What's. What's. th. What's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. It's. It's on. It's on. the. It's on. It's on. It's on. It's on. It's on. It's on. It's on. the. th. It's. th. th. th. the asshole for refusing to delete a video taken in public? I think we might have another, there could be another devil. Sounds like a yes to me because if you refuse to take down a video that someone else requested
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Starting point is 01:05:55 Here we go. Am I the asshole for refusing to delete a video taken in public? This weekend, my girlfriend and I were walking at a local reservoir. When down by the water, we saw a lady going past us with hundreds of ducks following her. I am not exaggerating at all. I'd say there were at least 200 to 300 birds, if not more, quacking and splashing and climbing all over each other, trying to get closer to the food she was tossing. It was a hell of a scene. So I started recording it because, frankly, I'd never the the the say the path where we were was about 30 or 40 feet back from the water,
Starting point is 01:06:29 so it was from a pretty respectable distance, not getting up in her face or anything. For a good minute or two, I'm just filming all these ducks going crazy. Well, the lady looks up and sees me and says, Are you recording? I tell her, yeah, I'm recording it. There are like 300 ducks back there. So she yells, I don't want to be in the picture. Delete that video. I didn't give you permission. I tell her no, I'm not deleting it. We're out in public.
Starting point is 01:06:51 I don't need permission to take pictures of things. I'm not even taking a video of you. You just happen to be in it walking past. if I take a picture of you and pulls out her phone, I tell her, I don't care, go ahead. What are you going to do? Frame it. So she's just standing there taking pictures of us until finally we all walk away, pissed off. So am I the asshole? I guess this lady thought I was being rude, but I didn't see anything wrong with what I was doing. Especially since it wasn't even her I was really taking the video up. This is Duck Lady who was complaining? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:26 The Duck Lady was saying. So the Duck lady started taking photos of them and and yeah. I could see this because legally I think legally you are allowed to take videos in a public I think legally he was he's within his rights. Yes. It's not a legal conversation. It's an ass a legal conversation. It's not a technicality. It's an asshole conversation. Someone be like, hey, I don't want to be in your video. I think it's fair to say I don't want to be in a video.
Starting point is 01:07:51 And then you, I think the respectful thing to do is say, okay? Yeah. It sounds like those ducks aren't going anywhere. It sounds like the thanks. Can I record these ducks? Yeah, we'll crop you out. Like, you can't complain if someone's recording something that you're not in. Right. So it sounds like he could have easily just been like, oh, sorry, I'll delete this one and then I'm gonna film these ducks.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Yes. It's asshole behavior to be like, noo! Yeah. Somebody's asking you to do something. being kind and respecting it. Just be a little bit respectful. And honestly, nowadays, man, like videos fucking go viral. And like, it doesn't, she's not doing anything wrong in the video, but like, the next day she could wake up and suddenly it's like, duck lady! And it's like, you're all over Tick-Tock and Twitter and people are talking about
Starting point is 01:08:34 duck lady. Or this is what ramifications she imagined there would be, but if someone says, please don't record me, obviously you say, okay, I won't record you. She's trying to gatekeep, the ducks. It could potentially, I don't know, it could potentially be illegal to feed the birds here or something in this reservoir. She's like, eh, like, don't. But if, to me, my take is, I'm like, to to to to to to to to be, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, toe.e.e.e. too. toe. too. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to, to me, my take is, I'm like, dude, it's so easy to just like not have this be a situation. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Like, because frankly, look, I get it. You run into like, I'm imagining this is an older woman. You can run into just like crazy people who are like, hey, are you recording? Like, I'm going to record the ducks over here. to give him some credit me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me to record me to record me to record me to record me to record me, I. I to record me to record to record to record to record to record to record to record to record to record, I. I to record, I'm to record, I'm to record to record thi. I'm to record thi. I'm thi. thi. thi. this. this. this. this. I'm this. I'm this. I'm this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I I I I this. I I this. I this. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. thi. the. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. to the. the. the. I'm thi. this. this let me just avoid this situation. I'll go record the ducks over here. To give him some credit to, it doesn't sound like she was the coolest about it too. Like, yelling from 30 feet away, it's obviously not very easy to be receptive to that. And then being like, well, I'm going to take your picture.
Starting point is 01:09:40 I'm sure that that riled him up and he was like, great, I'll pose. Like, I'm sure that that just made the whole altercation. Oh, yeah. It almost just became like, principle. It's like, I can legally do this, though. Yeah. It's like, okay. Cool, but how about you just be a nice person about it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:57 We don't know the gender their girlfriend. I would say if it was a man by himself, I 100% understand someone not wanted to be recorded by some guy. Sure. But if it's a couple and they're clearly stating like, they're clearly stating like, oh, I'm here. There's 300 ducks here. I want to record this.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Yeah. I get that. And when it was brought up, he was like, the ducks, they're cool, right? Like, it didn't really seem like he was, he made it pretty obvious it wasn't about her. Right, yeah. No, I think this lady might be a little nuts, but like. The context was clear though that it was about the ducks, it wasn't about her. And I think you're absolutely right. Whatever the gender was of whoever was taking the video, they they they they they they. And I always, whenever I see at least just a man with a girl, I'm like, okay, he's with a woman, he's safer. She thinks he's safe.
Starting point is 01:10:46 I trust it. Yeah, no, exactly. I trust that she's not going to be with a bad man. So I trust this couple. So I think, I think that just gives, that would give me a little bit more ease and I would hope that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that would hope that would hope that would hope that would hope that would hope that would hope that would hope that would hope that would hope that would hope that would hope that would hope that would hope that would ha, I would ha, I would hope that would ha that would happen that would happen that would that would that would that would that would that would happen that would that would happen that would happen that would that would that would that would that would happen that would happen that would happen that would happen that would happen that would happen that would happen that would happen that would happen that would happen that would happen that would happen that would happen that would h still felt targeted. Some comments here. You're the asshole. It might be legal, but if someone doesn't want to be recorded, you should respect that. Someone else said, agreed.
Starting point is 01:11:12 You might be on legally solid ground, not sure, but that seems right. But that doesn't make you scot-free on the asshole scale. You're the asshole. Someone else asked for some info. They said, info. If if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if you th if you th if you th if you th you th. th you th. th you th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho, if you said, info, if you post it online or save to show others, will you be editing her out of it or downloading something to hide her privacy? OP responded, I don't really plan to post it online and in any case all you really see of this lady is the side slash back of her head as she goes by, which was mostly covered
Starting point is 01:11:40 by a hat and from like 30 feet away. Someone said, so the answer to my question is, no then, you will not be doing anything to protect your privacy, you're the asshole. OPE says, not doing anything to protect your privacy. You mean other than keeping the video private, and you can't even see who she is anyways. 69 down votes, nice. Yeah, yeah, is privacy, is privacy, is privacy, is, is privacy, is, is privacy, is privacy, is, is privacy, is, is privacy, is, is, is privacy, is privacy, is, is, is, is privacy, is, is, is privacy, is, is, is privacy, is, is, is privacy, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they????? they? they? they? they? they? they? the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the answer? they, the answer? they? th.s?s?s?s?s?s?s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s. the, the, they. they? they. the, is privacy, is privacy not posting it online? Or is privacy, like, oh, but you still have that video. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Someone has a video of you. Like, that is uncomfortable. I guess someone with that logic could argue that they record you. And they're like, oh, but it's private. It's like, oh, but he very well could have just been like, yeah, I'm not going to post this. This is for my private collection. I put it in my hidden folder, it's cool. I mean, he easily could have just lied as well. I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm going to delete it because she's not going to see it on the
Starting point is 01:12:31 internet. Is she going to swim over, like, whatever, paddle over? God. I hope when I'm want to go on video. And you know I'm going to see that dress pop up as a sponsor? They're listening to me. Someone said, so in my country, it would be illegal for you to post that if the person in the recording does not consent. Because here, there really is an expectation of privacy even when in public. Not everyone has the need nor desire to be trending on Tick-Tock. Some of us also don't want our image slash likeness scattered on the internet. You would be the asshole if you post it unedited. Do what you can to remove or blur her out if possible. Have a shred of understanding that some people just don't want to be recorded
Starting point is 01:13:13 and spread to the entire world population. Keep in mind, this is only if you post it online. Recording for your own private use only, that's not really a concern. O.P. said, yeah, I've got no interest in posting it on the internet. Not everything has to be viral. 644 upboats. Someone responded to that, saying, I did chuckle when you got all annoyed and left because she turned the tables and filmed you. Do you still not understand why you doing it to her was intrusive and annoying, even when you felt the same thian thian thian thian thian thian thian thiii, thi, thi, thi, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, th, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-s. thr-s, the the the the the theuu. the. theu. the. theu. thoooo. tho. th yourself, you're the asshole for an entitled lack of empathy. People aren't just props for your life. OP responded to that saying,
Starting point is 01:13:48 I didn't feel the same thing myself. I honestly didn't care that she was taking pictures of me. It wasn't intrusive or annoying. It was just stupid at that point to keep standing around, arguing with this ding bat, devolved to. A hundred and twenty six down votes on that one. Thank God. Someone said, if a woman asked you to stop staring at her, the not creepy and non-asshole thing to do is stop. I don't see why you think making a personal video of someone who asked you not to is
Starting point is 01:14:13 so different. The fact that he's like, well, I didn't feel intrusive and I didn't feel weird or annoyed about it and it's like, okay, but not everybody thinks like you do. Like, she clearly expressed that she was not cool with you filming her, so her turning around, like, yeah, that was obviously a bad argument on her part to be like, well, I'm going to film you, but the whole point is that they both came off of that, understanding it differently. I feel like this boils down to the common thing that we're all told is like treat others like you want to be treated and I think some people
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Starting point is 01:15:28 me so I'm just gonna treat you how I want to be treated. You mean treat people with respect? No that's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. No that's a lot. That's all our stories. Who do we think was the biggest who made his ex-homeless. We've got the lady who wore a wedding dress to a wedding. Kind of iconic. We have the guy who opened up his relationship and is mad his wife's not sleeping with women. It's him. It's him. It's him.
Starting point is 01:15:52 We have the lady who's snooping around way too much. She's just annoying. Yeah. Oh, and the guy, oh yeah, you said, you said, you said, you the the the the guy, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you the, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you the, you, you, you the, you, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the the, you the the the the the, you the the the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you said, th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th thi. th th thi. th th thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the thi yeah, you said the homeless thing, and the guy taking photos of the woman. Yeah. I'm split between the guy that made his wife homeless. Yeah. And the guy that wanted to open his relationship to meet his needs and when his wife's needs started getting met, he got pissed off. Yeah, it is a tie between them.
Starting point is 01:16:21 I would say I'm gonna go with the house because I think more, I feel like more damage was done there. But I don't know, that's tough. It's hard to know. That's relationship versus financial, because I feel like, I feel like that relationship one, it's just gonna end. Like, I think she's probably about- And it does feel like she might have other guys. It seemed like it worked out for her, whereas the house one, she got really screwed over, now she doesn't have a house, and the kids are low contact.
Starting point is 01:16:48 It's impossible to compare these. Yeah. It's ultimately, like, in the comments, let us know your vote. the vote. Yeah. I just didn't like the language around the whole opening of the relationship. A lot of it comes everything to offer like that really just didn't sit right with any of us. The way it was written exactly the tone the way this guy thinks about himself and his wife and his place in the marriage that
Starting point is 01:17:10 I think that wins the biggest asshole just in the term terms of the way he's going about it. Oh and the girl who made the think that she's anywhere here like the devil. The same caliber, yeah. Well, let us know your opinions down in the comments below, and we will see you next Saturday for a massive Reddit story compilation. It's going to be all of our favorite stories from this whole series, frankly, and it's going to be awesome. It's going to be cozy. It'll be 2024. It's going to be unbelievably cozy. Like, long cozy, long cozy stream. And you're recording new bits for it or?
Starting point is 01:17:54 I filmed a bunch of interstitials. Oh, wow. It's going to be a long, it's going to be a long video. Like, these interstitials are going to come around like every hour. Like, it's, and I get cozier and cozier as it goes. It's great. So check that out. And thank you both for being here. Oh yeah. Hey, man, 2024 is going to be pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:18:17 It's going to be big. I'm getting nice and settled in with Smosh in 2024. in 2024. Wow. Things are going to get even better. Unless you have to delete the video because I don't want to be on it. Yeah, you decided last minute you don't want to have it. Yeah, I don't want to have a private person. I'm like it was just for me. Okay, well then that's fine. I'm just having our team edit it just for me. Okay, that's fine.

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