Snapped: Women Who Murder - Notorious: Ted Bundy - Part 2

Episode Date: June 6, 2021

In the 70’s, Ted Bundy brutally murdered at least 36 young women. Glamorized as a handsome, well-educated killer who outsmarted the law, was Bundy really an evil genius… or a con artist posing as privileged to hide the monster in plain sight?Snapped Notorious: Season 2, Episode 3Originally aired: July 15, 2018Watch full episodes of Snapped for FREE on the Oxygen app: https://oxygentv.app.link/WsLCJWqmIebSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hi, I'm Lindsey Graham, the host of Wondries Podcast American Scandal. Our newest series looks at the story of OxyContin, a popular painkiller that helps spur an epidemic of addiction and drug abuse, in which prompted a broad campaign to hold the pharmaceutical industry accountable. Listen to American Scandal on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Two weeks after his second escape from prison, Ted Bundy brutally assaults four Florida State University's sorority students while they were sleeping.

Tragically, he leaves to dead and another to unconscious. It was January the 15th, 1978, when I got a call. There's then what we think, multiple murders at the sorority house. I'm Ken Kusaurus. I was the sheriff of Leon County, Florida. I was on the scene and directed the Ted Bundy Murder Investigation. I knew that not only did we have a crime on campus, but there was something very different about what we faced. You could tell which victim was first, which one was second, you could tell which one was third,

and which one was fourth, because the first one was brutally, brutally deep. Like he was expending energy as he went. Exha exhausting himself. We were very fortunate that Needy Neary had seen the person exit Chyomega. She only saw him in profile, but we had a general description of what the person looked like,

and that description was given to everybody who was gonna camp this in the neighborhood. Ted Bundy had a non-threatening physical being. He fit into the crowd well. And my understanding was while emergency personnel were around the kind of mega-hots he was in the crowd

drinking a beer. I'd never hear it being that bad in my life because if you just act normal, people would not could just say, what would do it's wrong with you. The more apparent what you become the more likely it is you get to not start acting different. Act normal. People are not going to say what one do it's wrong with him. The more paranoid you become, the more likely it is you get caught.

It's going to start acting different. FSU was a homicidal boast. It was the place he was going to do something extraordinary. He wanted to go back to the same location, that same night, and assault another young woman, and he was successful in doing so. another young woman, and it was successful in doing so. Cheryl Thomas lived in the little duplex about five blocks to the west of Kaya Omega right on the edge of campus.

She occupied one side and then the other side was occupied by two young women. I'm Debatechick Rilly touched in. My name is Nancy Young. Cheryl Thomas, Nancy Young and myself. We lived together back in 1978. They were both students at the School of Dance. And let me tell you, you talk about beautiful dancers. Cheryl could have been something huge.

Cheryl had a first date that night, and we were all at the same bar. It was the night of the 14th. Went to Big Daddy's. Our usual disco dancing night. Cheryl left before we did. Proximately around midnight. Nancy and I got home around 2am. When we got home, Cheryl's light was out.

We figured she was home from her day early, and she had gone to sleep. Then we just went to bed. I normally am a very heavy sleeper for some reason that night I was not. And just this very loud noise woke me up, startled me. She woke me up, you know, and she's like, Nancy, what was that noise?

Debbie had just moved in with me like two months before that. So she was sleeping on the floor. Maybe that's why she heard noises before I did. I listened and we heard some knocking around. sleeping on the floor. Maybe that's why she heard noises before I did. I listened and we heard some knocking around. I said, I don't know, like, hate to admit it, but almost annoyed, like go back to sleep. We had no clue what was going on a coyote a few blocks away, but I just had this sick feeling that there was something not right.

She said, I'm gonna call my boyfriend. He said, leave her alone. She's probably with some guide. And I said, no, she's not, that's not Cheryl. Cheryl and I had made a pact that no matter what you're doing, no matter what time of day it is, who you're with, if the phone rings, answer it. Because maybe it's me needing help. So I said, if you're that worried, call her. She'll answer the phone. I called her, and we could hear the phone because the wall was so thin.

And I could hear her whimpering, and she was answering the telephone. And then we heard all the knocking around. And I could hear her whimpering, and she was answering the telephone. And then we heard all the knocking around. It just went from the middle of the house to the front of the house, and then back through by the bedroom and through the kitchen, and then it went silent. I said, hang up and call 911. I was standing outside of the sorority house when my radio crackles, they just had a call

that there was what appeared to be an assault going on. About six blocks away, it could be the same person. As inconceivable as that could be that somebody would strike twice within a small area, but you never know. Less than a minute. Get to the front door and peek through my curtain. Policemen are jumping out of their cars with their guns out, surrounding the house and pounding on her door.

And she's not answering. So they end up kicking it open. And we could hear them screaming freeze as they go in each room. We were scared. We didn't know what was going on. I looked at Nancy. She's like, holy crap. As they got back to her bedroom,

one of them very loudly said, she's alive. And at that point, Tavina, I just about melted. Cheryl Thomas was severely injured. One, they used the same law to beat her, that they used, at Kyle Mega. Everything was basically chaos. The entire enforcement community was responding to the two different scenes.

Requestion by multiple law enforcement. It just seemed endless. Nobody knew if the perpetrator was still there if he was on the campus, if he had fled. We were told by law enforcement, they had taken a chunk out of Cheryl's back door and a chunk out of our back door where the handle was. His fingerprints were on Cheryl's door

and our back door as well. That makes it harder to swallow, too. Of the five women assaulted that night, the three living victims are taken to the local ICU. Tragically, two victims, Margaret Bowman and Lisa Levy did not survive their injuries. It really never hit me hard until I went to the morgue and saw the two young ladies that were deceased. I was just flashing back to my two daughters

and it just sent shivers up my spine and I said, this person will pay for this. I personally examined the bodies. I wanted to see if there was anything I could pick up. I saw a bit of one of the victims, and I focused on it. I realized it wasn't just the bite. It was a double clamp, two really good bite impressions, almost like the signature.

My supervisor called me and said to go to the hospital that I should bring up pad of paper and not leave their sides. He felt like it would be more comfortable for young women to look at another young woman in case they were able to wake up and remember anything. They were so incredibly injured and there was so much facial damage that was miraculous that he didn't hit him all one more time

and it for them. We get reports on Cheryl every day in the put. The hospital wasn't letting us go because she was an ICU. Probably maybe five days in. but the hospital wasn't letting us go because she was an ICU. Probably maybe five days in, one of the policemen came and said, we would like you to come to the hospital and see Cheryl. She's asking, why am I here? What happened to me?

She knows there were other girls involved. The doctor just doesn't think she's improving like she should. He suspects that she thinks the next news coming is that it was you. The doctor really thinks she needs to see you. And so. That was really special, because she did get better.

So. That was really special, because she did get better. So... Why did Ted Bundy choose me? I still have no idea why. I can't remember it happening to me. I'm Cheryl Thomas, and I'm a survivor. On January 15, 1978, Tallahassee investigators responded to the most horrific crime scenes in their unit's history. The three assault victims who survived fight for their lives. Cathy Kline, Karen Chandler, and Cheryl Thomas were transported to Tallahassee Memorial Regional

Medical Center. They were so incredibly injured and there was so much facial damage that was miraculous that he didn't hit him all one more time and end it for them. I can't remember being attacked at all to wake up in a room that you don't recognize was quite baffling. And they didn't want to describe right away how I was hurt. But my mother told me I was very upset every time a male nurse came into my room. The police asked me, do you know of anyone that would want to do this to you?

I couldn't imagine anything that I had done to deserve that attack. It was shocking to see her injuries and all the bruising that comes from those injuries and stuff of me, she was hardly recognizable. That was a horror film in itself, too. See your roommate laying in a bed with purple and pink

all over her face from being beaten her jaw-wired shot She had a dark round baby here down to the middle of her back and it was awful of blood So it literally stood out like this just awful of blood I was a dancer and like this just all full of blood. I was a dancer. And suddenly, I'm not a dancer anymore. I wondered, am I going to let this world rest my life? I'm not a dancer anymore. I wonder, am I going to let this world rest my life?

I wonder, am I going to let this world rest my life? It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. It's okay. She just wanted to be a professional ballerina, and he took that from her.

You know, she wasn't able to pursue her dream because of him. It's just you have to take your changes and move on. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that.

I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not, that's the method of communication. And absolutely, we felt that it was Ted Bundy. I called down to the Florida authorities who were investigating the Kyle Megham murders and warned them about him. He was quite possibly there. I was getting calls from around the country. I was getting agencies informing me about people on the run. I'd even heard that there was this guy named Ted Bundy,

who had escaped and was missing. It was just another name. We had a lot of names. Despite the fact that police have been tipped off to Bundy's potential presence in Florida, he remains at large for a full month after the Florida State University attacks. Ted Bundy was very chameleonic

and his behavior and his looks. He would often grow facial hair and shave his beard in a different way, sometimes dye his hair, and then help when he was a fugitive. I don't necessarily know that he was a chameleon. What he did is he grew a beard here and there. He changed his hair a little bit.

He was just a world ahead of law enforcement. He was definitely not a master of disguise. But in the 70s, bad guys look like bad guys. They definitely didn't look like Ted Bundy. ["Bundy's Soul of Anne"] ["Bundy's Soul of Anne"] ["Bundy's Soul of Anne"] Three weeks after being on the run, Bundy stole a van and drove a hundred miles east.

He stopped in front of a school in Lake City, and he was in Honday, North. And in that school was a little girl named Kim Leach, who was 12. Bundy grabbed her. And a man who witnessed it, just simply thought he was an angry parent, taking his child from the school. That was his last murder. a younger parent, taking his child from the school.

That was his last murder. It was just after 1 a.m. on February 15, 1978, that Ted Bundy was pulled over near the Alabama state line. Ted Bundy wasn't a very good driver. And when Ted Bundy saw a mark unit behind him, he just tried to drive off and drove through a couple of traffic lights and so the Escambia County deputy

pulled him over and got him out of the car. Ted Bundy's poor judgment and lack of caution would ultimately lead to his own downfall. Bundy ran from the officer with me and he ran after him, tackles him, and that was the end of Ted Bundy. As we think about it years later, it's too bad he didn't pull out his gun and shoot him.

When Bundy was arrested, at first he gave a false name. Kenneth Meisner. He had ID that belonged to Meisner. A Mike Minerva and as a public defender, a defendant had been named. The police contacted Meisner. Meisner of course was not guilty. Then the police were trying to find out who this person that they had in custody really was. Finally, he made the disclosure. My name is Ted Bundy. That name did not really mean anything

to law enforcement at that time, because Bundy was notorious in the West, but not in Florida at all. Once he identifies himself as Ted Bundy, Florida investigators begin to look into his criminal past. All the enforcement agencies in North Florida were heavily researching him at the time. And every day, there was more and more and more

that was revealed about the depth of his criminal activity. We were amazed. They found that he was on the FBI's 10 most wanted list. He began looking to see what he might have been doing when he was in Florida. He would follow everything through the media. If he did something, he couldn't wait to get the newspaper the next day

to see how it was going to be reported. Bundy matched the physical description of the man seen inside the Chi Omega house. There was hairs and fibers in the van that matched Kimberly Leach and matched Ted Bundy. Investigators finally conclude that not only have they captured the man responsible for six homicides and assaults in their state, they have captured one of the most heinous criminals in America. Oh, it's a proud moment for all of us.

Hey, you told him there, you're gonna get me. He said he was gonna get me. OK, you've got to get it. It's all you're gonna get. Don't read it. Let's go. Ted Bundy did not act like a psycho. He was charismatic.

He was very bright. He's not the great, slight killer that people thought he was. I mean, he made mistakes. And then he got him. I couldn't resist asking him, Ted, you're associated with 36 murders in four states. How do you react to that?

He kind of leaned back, rolled his eyes, and said, well, Ken, when you find the person that committed these murders, that person is going to be wanted for the murders of girls in the three digits in six states. Ah, the Bahamas. What if you could hang out with celebrities living a penthouse above the crystal clear ocean with all your best friends and have it be 100% paid for? FTX Founder Sam Bankman Fried made that dream a reality, but U.S. prosecutors say he

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rise and fall of FTX, and its founder, Sam Bankman Free. Follow Spellcaster, wherever you get your podcast. Hey, prime members, you can listen to episodes at free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. On February 15, 1978, the most wanted criminal in the country, Ted Bundy, is brought into custody in Florida. Is it ingenuity or simply the unassuming con he adopts

that helped Bundy evade the law for so long? Ted Bundy did not act like a psycho. He wasn't weird. He was charismatic. He was charming. He was funny. But he was a killing machine. After Ted Bundy was arrested here in Florida,

I received a call from authorities out in Colorado wanting to extradite him back to Colorado. I told them the session was 9-10s of the law, and he was staying right here until we were finished with him. My name is Larry Simpson. I prosecuted Ted Bundy for the Cheryl Thomas assault and Kyle Megas' awarding murders. The judge decided that the Cheryl Thomas assault

and the Kyle Megal murders would be tried at the same time. and Kalamega sorority murders. The judge decided that the Cheryl Thomas assault and the Kalamega murders would be tried at the same time. The judge felt that the crimes were likely done by the same perpetrator because of the proximity, the time, and the same weapon was used. The Kimberly Leach trial was scheduled separately to happen afterwards. In Bundy's case, we knew we didn't have anything like an affirmative offense, such as alibi.

So the best possible outcome was assigned plea agreement. Because of the circumstantial nature of the cases, we reached an understanding with Bundy's lawyers that he would plead guilty to all of the cases, we reached an understanding with Bundy's lawyers that he would plead guilty to all of the cases. He would receive life sentences, minimum, 75 years without parole. He would never get out of prison, but he wouldn't be executed. Unfortunately, we got to court the morning Bundy was supposed to plead guilty, and he started criticizing everybody involved in the case, and we pulled the deal. After I ran into Mike Minerva, I told him,

Mr. Bundy just passed up the deal of a lifetime. Refusing to accept a plea agreement is the first of many foolish decisions Bundy makes to his own detriment, decisions that would later be misconstrued as signs of his intellect. He botched the plea deal because of his ego. He insisted on going to trial. Had he taken that plea deal,ful he could be in the court

out with the judge, out with the prosecutor, and show off his smarts. Finally, the judge said, all right, you want to have more say-so in this? I'll make you co-counsel. Even though Ted Bundy never even finished law school, the judge allows him to basically represent himself. co-counsel. Even though Ted Bundy never even finished law school, the judge allows him to basically represent himself.

Ted Bundy thought he was a lot smarter than he really was. It was bizarre as characteristic of the whole Bundy episode, and it became a nightmare trying to defend him. Throughout several months of pretrial hearings, Bundy prepares for his own defense from the Leon County jail. But this time, authorities are taking no chances. I had him in custody in my detention center.

And in my mind, he had escaped twice before. So he was not going to escape from the Leon County jail. The state was like a bulldog to hold on to him and not let him go anywhere. We put him in a cell that we had lined with quarter inch steel that had three logs and three keys held by three different deputies. Where the light fixture was, we actually just simply cut openings. There was nothing for him to undo, crawl through,

there was no place that he could penetrate. Actually, he sued me for jail conditions. The light source was totally inadequate to revive. The only way one could read in that cell was to hold a document outside the bar to be available like the filters from the light source outside the cell. It frustrates my ability to participate in preparation for my own offenses.

The only lawsuit I lost was to Ted Bundy. Please be seated. The court will come to order. In June 1979, Bundy stands trial in Miami for the Chyomega and Cheryl Thomas attacks. The trial was transferred to Miami. After Judge Coward ruled, there was too much publicity in Tallahassee where the indictments were returned.

It's the first-ever trial to be televised nationally in the US and is covered by over 250 reporters from five different continents. Camers in the courtroom.S. and is covered by over 250 reporters from five different continents. Cameras in the courtroom were brand new, to certainly the biggest case that they've ever been televised before. It was a little bit surreal. Each day, the courtroom is filled with spectators

drawn by a fascination with the Adore Bundy himself or by the gruesome details of the crimes. I'm not afraid of him. He just doesn't look like the type to kill somebody. It's been said that he's the sexiest serial killer of all crimes. I'm not afraid of him. He just doesn't look like the type to kill somebody. It's been said that he's the sexiest serial killer of all time. What's sexy about murdering women? Bundy would be considered different from other serial killers. He represented himself through his trows.

He felt like he was smarter than his attorneys. He was not one that should have been assisting himself. He didn't know enough about the law. He just knew enough to get himself in trouble. Bundy was going to be his own worst enemy, and was going to help the state convict him. Because he was co-counsel, Bundy was actually allowed in a destructive kind of way

to cross-examined witnesses. One of the things that happened was Mr. Bundy decided that he wanted to question an FSU police officer about what the crime scene looked like with the Kalamega house. Did you notice blood on any areas of the room other than what you testified to earlier? Thurman, a large amount of blood around the top of the head and it's bl you testified to earlier. There was a large amount of blood around the top of the head, and it's

blooded on the walls. Bundy brought out every single brutal detail that was found in that room. Longer's no better than to play up the truestiness of the evidence if they don't have to. Bundy did it himself. Do you know what happened to you? I've been told. I mean, from your own birth, I don't have to. Bundy did it himself. Do you know what happened to him?

I've been told. I mean, from your own birth to your own. Do you know him? Can I remember? Yes. No. We all were summoned to go to Miami to appear on the stand in front of Ted Bundy.

As a 20-year-old little girl, I was scared. It was a very odd situation because he was representing himself. I was nervous because Ted Bundy would be sitting right in front of me. The women would say he was so handsome, but knowing what he did, I don't see this handsome man. He was writing, feverishly writing. He never looked up at me. When Nancy Young came back, she said the same.

When I gave my testimony, I never even made eye contact with him. Like, I didn't have anything that he cared about. But Cheryl, when she was on the stand and she looked over at him, he stared her down, and he would not stop searing at her until she walked off. At the trial, the prosecution presented three key pieces of evidence. First, night witnesses that placed head Bundy in the vicinity of the victims on the night they were attacked.

Bundy was identified as being in shards that night. Nightclub, that was right next door to the guy on Mega House. The second piece of evidence was Neeta Mary's eyewitness testimony. She saw the offender exit, Kayomega, on the night of the attacks. next door to the guy Omega House. The second piece of evidence was Nita Mary's eyewitness testimony. She saw the offender exit, Kyle Mega, on the night of the attacks. Do you recall the man that she saw at the door of the time, Omega House?

Yes, I do. We were pointing out four splits. Instruct soon with the rent high. That's very much but I'm coming. But the most fascinating testimony of the whole trial came from a dentist. During the attack on Lisa Levy, the perpetrator had bitten her buttocks.

We wanted to make a comparison between Mr. Bundy's teeth and the bite mark itself. To my knowledge, it has never been done before, but we couldn't think of any reason why we couldn't do it. One night after dark, I went to his cell. And I said, Mr. Bundy, we're going out. I know he was scared because he'd never been taken out at night like that.

When we entered the dental office, all of a sudden, he knew what we're going to do, and Ted Bundy started screaming. Where's my attorney? I want my attorney. I said, Ted Bundy, sit in that chair. We have a warrant to read to you. Dr. Suvoron brought with him some contraptions that are used for post mortem removal of white impressions

to keep the mouth open. And I said, showing what we're gonna use if we have to. Ted Bundy looked at me. He sat down in the dental chair. He laid back, opened his mouth, and he said, can, you know I'm not a violent person. I believe we served the first search warrant in history for a man's mouth.

The state tried to portray bite marks virtually the same as fingerprints and that no two are alike. The defense followed tooth and nail to keep that out. The lead expert for the state eventually came to the point of saying, no other teeth than Bundy's could have made these bite marks. The trial of Ted Bundy, one of America's most notorious serial killers, grips the nation through the summer of 1979. Every time it turns around, I kind of get that feeling, no, no, you know,

gonna get me next. But yet you're fascinated by him. Bundy represents himself at his trials, promoting an image of a brilliant and charming criminal that would persist long after his death. Bundy's self-perception was that he was a bright, good-looking guy who could have done anything. He said to me several times, you know, I could be sitting on the other side of that table.

The Bundy trial lasted close to a month. This was not a slam dunk case. It was totally circumstantial. Then we knew it was a risky case. We had to connect the dots and hope the jury agreed with us. We, the public defenders office, try to weaken the state's case with contradictions and impeachment of witnesses, improbability,

these logical arguments that says there cannot be a conviction because the state has not proven the case beyond a reasonable doubt. Once the jury went out with a little over six hours, nobody knew what was going to happen. Before pronouncing the sentence, Judge Edward Coward led Bundy make a statement. I'm not asking for mercy.

For I find it absurd to ask for mercy for something I did not do. The jury does here by imposed death penalty upon the defendant's theater Robert Bundy. Dead Bundy was sentenced to death after a jury recommendation of seven to five for death. It was a tremendous amount of relief that we had accomplished what we set out to do.

That was amazing news, but still not totally comforting because knowing how he had escaped in the past. There was a chance it could happen again, and he had my name. I lived in fear until the day he was executed. In January 1980, Bundy is tried at the old Orange County Courthouse in Orlando for the abduction and murder of Kimberly Leech. Bundy went to trial for the Kimberly Leech murder

approximately a month after the Chalmega case was over. And he was convicted, and he was sentenced to death. And that Kimberly Leach case as well. MUSIC After his sentencing, Bundy begins serving his time on death row in Florida, while awaiting his execution date, and FBI profiler Bill Hagmeyer

is tasked with profiling one of the country's most notorious killers. I believe when you're dealing with a person like Ted Bundy with Ego, he has your best talking skills, or listening, because he'd like to hear himself talk. Does it matter how intelligent somebody is, we all have weaknesses, we all have warts, and it usually has to do with IGA. For the first three years, he never admitted anything. We would often talk about his crimes, without him actually saying, I Ted Bundy did them.

He would speak in the third person. He would talk about a serial killer. Later on, he decided to use the I word and confess several murders. They call it bones for time, and he was willing to come clean on who he killed, how he killed them, and where the bodies were located. For him to be negotiating for his life

over the bodies of victims, it's despicable. It was a bargaining ploy. He thought that if he tantalized the police with enough information, he wouldn't be executed. Even though every state in the country thought that he may have killed people there, and there were literally hundreds of agencies that wanted to be there,

they decided that they would invite people from the states of Washington, Utah, Colorado, and Idaho. He was hoping that we would speak in his behalf to the governor and attorney general in Florida. But we knew Florida wasn't doing anything. I'm here at Florida State Prison. It's late at night, Mr. Munney's been spending the whole day attempting to help authorities resolve unsolved homicides. You've been involved in how many homicides? We came up with 30. Would you just try to summarize what states they were in and what periods of time? California, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Utah, Colorado, Florida, between 1973 and 1978.

The best thing that he told me about was his abduction of one of the University of Washington girls, George Ann Hawkins, where he got into pretty good detail about how he abducted this lady and took her out to the Issaquah site. He told me where her head would be. You shared with us that in a couple of the cases, you opted to sever the heads from the victims. And not how many were there to call a 30-thousand? Oh, what perhaps happened to us?

We had people up there searching and digging and everything and never found her skull. It's a very complicated issue. There are offenders, Ted Bundy, being one of them, who will drag out something just as long as possible with a little tease of how much more information he's going to give, and he'll be manipulative with law enforcement for just as long as you let him. You could always tell by this smirk on his face

that he definitely had knowledge of something where you're headed towards, that he didn't want to talk about anything that we didn't know anything about. When it came obvious that there was no other information, there was no reason for me to be there anymore, it was over. No one in the world can save his life right now. He knows he's going to die. After confessing to the murders of at least 30 young women across the country between 1973 and 1978,

one of America's most prolific serial killers, Ted Bundy, is scheduled to be executed by electric chair on January 24, 1989. He has become infamous not only for his murders, but for his characterization in the press as unusually smart and handsome. Ted Bundy is an articulate, attractive 42-year-old man, a former Boy Scout law student and Republican Party activist. He also is the object of widespread loathing. I would take a great deal of personal satisfaction in seeing Ted Bundy die.

Who's in the warden's office? I would take a great deal of personal satisfaction in seeing Ted Bundy die. I was in the warden's office. Just waiting for it to happen. We knew he was executed when we heard heard by the Screamin' and Yellen. People shooting fireworks off, and it was, you know, we're thousand people out there. And their perception,

Joseph, was finally served. Theater Bundy was executed at 716 in the electric carat Florida State Prison. Cat Bundy deserved the death penalty. The electric carat is too good for him. He should have some of the same things done to him as he did to all the girls. Is that him?

He's a bad dog. Even people that were anti-death penalty would tell me, share, I'm OK with this one. One, two, three, four, five, Cheryl Thomas. Thank you. 40 years after Bundy's attacks at Florida State, Cheryl Thomas prepares to reunite with her college housemates for the first time since the trial. I'm not ashamed of who I am, and I'm proud and thankful to be a survivor. It would give a

Ted Bundy power to let the attack take control. Hey, she got nervous. And that's the fight in me and not to let someone victimize you. It's not the end. Hey, Debbie! How are you? You look great! You look so happy to see you. It's been a long time. Hey!

How are you? So nice to see you. Oh my god. Longer picture! Here we go! I need to clean next. Yeah, I know. Oh, so many stories to share. I can't believe it's been 40 years.

What a thought that we wouldn't get together. My gosh. So are these yours? Yeah, I brought these in. I never saw these pictures. That's a front of our duplet. Your door was right there on the right side of mine with Honda, left, and that's me, and my bedroom. front of our de-clad. Your door was right there on the right side of mine was on the left.

And that's me in my bedroom. Look at this is all coming back the halter tops and the short shorts. What we wear that now. Where did we take that? We were in Miami after the trial? Right, we were leaving for the airport. You know what? This was the last time we were together if that was the Miami. It was the same, huh? Yeah, we do. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. One two three. You would like to think that Dan's apartment would have let me dance your part even if I wasn't. Because we were best friends. Right, and I knew that. But I did get to dance your part.

That was cool. So that was really good. And this one I brought, you both know, on Sheriff Pizarras. He was a really nice person. We had a lot of friends over at the policeman. We had a lot of friends that were policemen. We had a lot of law enforcement friends.

We were going through one of the scariest times in our lives. We knew that we had people that we could turn to. Did you know the law enforcement? They gave you the credit for saving my life. Because if you had not called me when you did, I would have died. We just did what you do, we're a friend, and I just wanted to say it. Thank you, I'm so glad that you were my neighbors and friends. Your friends, we're family.

We're a family. Life time. Well, especially after you go through something that we've gone through. That's true. That's true. We're true survivors. Yeah, that's true. We are. that we've gone through. That's true. That's true. We're true survivors.

Yeah, that's true. We are. MUSIC The thinking is that there were at least 30 victims. But he said the number is much greater than that. It's been said that he's a genius. His escape from Colorado was easy for him. That he's a master of disguise. He was very chameleonic and his behavior and his looks.

That he evaded law enforcement by not leaving any evidence behind. Now, we have DNA, very technical hair exams, and red light cameras. People are idealizing this killer. The truth of the matter is Ted Bundy was a monster. He just doesn't look like the type to kill somebody. He was not the kind of person that would provoke suspicion, and that made it easier for him to escape law enforcement.

He was pretty unique, but one of the things he said to me, you ever have a daughter? Protect her because I'm not the only one out there. There's more than one Ted Bundy. You've ever physically harmed anyone? Ever physically harmed anyone? No. No. The myth that Ted Bundy was so handsome and clever is dangerous.

There's been a lot of glamorization. You forget about the women that did survive and those that did not. And I never wanted to glamorize Ted Bundy. For more information on notorious, go to oxygen.com.