Snapped: Women Who Murder - Tucker Moore-Reed

Episode Date: July 30, 2023

When a beloved plastic surgeon and his office manager are gunned down at work, detectives chase down several leads until they uncover one suspect hiding malicious intent.Season 30 Episode 05O...riginally aired: November 7, 2021Watch full episodes of Snapped for FREE on the Oxygen app: https://oxygentv.app.link/WatchSnappedPodSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:34 you'll find a collection of NPR episodes centered on the Black experience. Search NPR Black Stories, Black Truths, wherever you get podcasts. in PR Black Stories, Black Truths, wherever you get podcasts. On a remote ranch in Oregon, a family dispute takes a deadly turn. He's coming into the house.
Starting point is 00:00:54 God damn it. Are you in danger? Yes. Oh, God. She shot it! Oh! There was blood coming out of his nose and his mouth. And I didn't know where the blood was coming from.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Who shot him? I don't know. As the smoke clears, a multitude of suspects emerge. Anybody that is able to be put in handcuffs will go into handcuffs. In this real-life game of clue, investigators must sort through a cast of characters to figure out who is responsible and why. I didn't see anything, all I can tell you again went off.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And when the case is finally solved, it will prove that sometimes the truth really is stranger than fiction. She played the lead role in a horror movie when she was so good at the role. I had the gun. And I was like, what happened? It's very bizarre. It's something you couldn't make up. I knew the truth, and it was cold, blooded,
Starting point is 00:01:56 calculated murder. The remote town of Applegate Oregon, located in Jackson County, is known for its picturesque vineyards and quaint ranches. I grew up here, born and raised, and it's like I know everybody that knows everybody that knows everybody, so in that respect that kind of makes it a small town, you know. On the afternoon of July 26, 2016, Appalgates Pleasant facade is transformed into chaos. This is Jackson, 29th and 1st of March and 29th I need someone now and I need to ambulance. Tell me what the emergency is. I didn't see anything. All I can tell you is a gun went off.
Starting point is 00:02:54 The dispatcher was asking her questions. She was unclear. Somebody shot a gun. And there was now a male down on the front porch. OK, well, that one's OK. Where's the patient? Who are you at the front down on the front porch. Okay, hold on one second. Where's the patient? Who are you at the front door on the ground? Is the patient alive?
Starting point is 00:03:11 I don't know. I'm not going out there. Who shot him? I don't know. I'm a notary. I got calls. I'm doing the signing. And it's been so well. What does last thing change? Patrick Moore. M.00RE. In the chaos, Carlton Olson, Shane's roommate,
Starting point is 00:03:27 takes over the phone and agrees to follow the operator's instructions for CPR. Two breaths and 30 pumps. Carlton Olson was one of Shane Moore's friends, and I believe he lived out on the property on Thompson Creek Road with Shane. And he was a man who was a man who was a man who was a man who Carlton Oleson was one of Shane Moore's friends, and I believe he lived out on the property on Thompson Creek Road with Shane.
Starting point is 00:03:50 As Carlton attempts to save Shane's life, first responders make the 22-mile trek to the remote ranch on Thompson Creek Road. It took law enforcement approximately 30 minutes to get there. Hello, kids. Hello, sir. Hello, sir. I started hearing yelling and screaming, and I walked out. All I knew is that my sweet friend was laying there.
Starting point is 00:04:14 It didn't even register in my mind. He had been shot, not immediately. Shane Patrick Moore was born in New Jersey in 1953, the middle of five children. His dad was an admiral in the Navy. He got drug-around, you know, from location to location, and that was hard for him. Always on his heels was his younger sister of four years Kelly. So when Shane went to law school in California, Kelly did the same. Kelly was an attorney back in the early 90s.
Starting point is 00:04:54 While Kelly worked long hours making a name for herself as a high-powered corporate attorney, Shane decided practicing law wasn't for him. He opened an antique bookstore in San Francisco instead. It was just totally successful all the way around the board. And any book he had he had read. So he was a very, very intelligent guy. Not to be outdone by her brother, in 1989, Kelly wrote a book with her new husband,
Starting point is 00:05:26 Actor Dan Reed. She talked about being a writer and working on some books and that she had a book she was working on, a true crime story. Called Deadly Medicine, he made it into a made-for-cev movie. Just one month after the publication, Kelly and Dan welcomed a daughter,
Starting point is 00:05:44 Aisling Tucker more read. The couple went on to have two more children, but it was clear Kelly always saw something special in her first born. Kelly was supportive mom. It just had kind of a fun, like, playful energy about them, and they seemed very close. She was totally devoted to Tucker. Tucker was her favorite, and she made...
Starting point is 00:06:09 that wasn't a secret. It was also clear that young Tucker inherited the acting bug from her dad. She's a great actress. Oh, Lord, she's a great actress. Devoted to ensuring Tucker's talents didn't go to waste, Kelly left her career behind to be a full-time stage mom. She let the whole wide world know how that Tucker was going to be a star and was going
Starting point is 00:06:35 to make a million dollars and take care of her and her elderly age. As siblings, Kelly and Shane chased their dreams in California. In 2000, their parents retired to a picturesque ranch in Southern Oregon. It was between 150 and 160 acres. It's kind of a place that you can go and feel comfortable and not have to worry about what's going on around you. By 2000, Kelly and her husband were divorced. Since Kelly had abandoned her career to raise her children, her parents helped her out with a monthly allowance
Starting point is 00:07:12 and a place to live. When Kelly moved to Oregon, her parents purchased the second oldest home in Jacksonville, which is a beautiful historical home for her and her children to live in. Kelly's daughter Tucker was an instant hit in small town, Oregon. Tucker is a beautiful girl. She is very, very intelligent. She is well-educated and charming and talented. She's very talented. She was an action high school student.
Starting point is 00:07:46 She graduated from action high school, which has a lot of performing arts programs. I remember immediately just being wowed by her talent. She, you know, was really passionate about theater. She just had this kind of like energy about her that was, you know, she really seemed to radiate that like sort of confidence. While his sister and niece thrived in their new life in Oregon, Shane joined the family
Starting point is 00:08:17 there to care for his ailing father. Shane had taken care of his dad through his ALS disease. And for six and a half years, he was there waiting on him hand in foot to care everything that needed to be done out there. It's property. Though he and his sister Kelly had always been in competition, Uncle Shea was Tucker's biggest fan. She did Alice in Wonderland and he went and saw that. He was very, very proud of Tucker's performance.
Starting point is 00:08:47 He bragged about that a lot. Following high school, Tucker left Oregon for USC where she majored in drama. But once there, an unexpected event put her dreams on hold. Tucker said that her boyfriend at the time had wanted to have sex. She wasn't ready and he pressured her into having sex essentially. She accused him of rape and filed charges against him and then from what I understand, the college didn't see any evidence, the LA PD didn't see any evidence.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Didn't see any evidence, the plut- LA PD didn't see any evidence. However, Tucker decided to keep sharing her story. She went and started a blogging site and made allegations. She posted it all over social media and gained a lot of attention for that. She started a coalition at her school called SCAR, student coalition against rape. And, you know, she wanted to raise awareness about campus rapes, ultimately, a libel suit was filed against her. I think she had to take down the original blog post, and she wasn't allowed to mention him by name anywhere. They settled it
Starting point is 00:10:02 out of court, and then she'd move back to the area and worked as a reporter for a little while in Grand's Pass. In between gigs, Tucker often retreated to the family ranch, where her uncle Shane lived with roommates Carlton Olson and Stacey McKenzie while he continued to care for his 87-year-old mother, now a widow.
Starting point is 00:10:28 He took care of the property, to care of his mom. He did all the shopping for his mom twice a week, took her to her doctor's appointments, everything. As time passed, the sibling rivalry between Shane and Kelly began to resurface. There was always a fight going on between Kelly and Shane. Kelly had decided to use her mother's property to make some money. Shane had a large portion of it.
Starting point is 00:10:55 He didn't want it logged because he didn't want the property being devalued by taking all the trees down. I'm just thinking to myself, why would you, you know, you guys are brothers and sisters, why would you guys be arguing like this? MUSIC And on July 26, tensions at the Moore Family Ranch
Starting point is 00:11:16 have come to a head as first responders rush to Shane's lifeless body. It's their job to find all the people at the scene and separate them and hold them until the detectives arrived. Tragically, efforts to save Shane's life are unsuccessful. The EMS had pronounced Shane deceased at the scene. As investigators with the Jackson County Sheriff's Office arrive behind first responders, they find
Starting point is 00:11:49 Shane Moore dead and four potential killers. We don't have a clear indication of who is suspect. Anybody that is able to be put in handcuffs. We'll go into handcuffs. Coming off, detectives track down a fifth suspect who has fled the scene. The notary was not on scene. She had left. And a rift in the family takes shape.
Starting point is 00:12:20 She's wrestling with the door and saying, you know, he's trying to come in. He's trying to come in. He was going to kill us. If Tiger didn't drop his charges. July 26, 2016, Applegate, Oregon. Surrounded by several members of his family, Shane Moore lies dead from a gunshot wound on his family ranch, and there's no shortage of potential suspects.
Starting point is 00:12:49 The people that we identified as being there during the incident were Shane Moore, Tucker Moore Reed, Kelly Moore, Laurie Moore, Kelly and Shane's mother. Carlton Olison was there. He's Shane's roommate. They lived together in the separate residence on the property. However, the woman who made the initial call to 911 is nowhere to be found.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Carla Triber, the notary, was not on scene. She had left. While deputies fan out in search of Carla, investigators begin processing the scene, starting with Shane's body. There was a single hole in his shirt in the upper chest area, and then, as the medical examiner removed his shirt, a single bullet entrance hole in the sternum area. Investigators must wait for a search warrant to get a look inside the house for further evidence. The residents had been taped up with caution tape to prevent any entry and exit to the crime
Starting point is 00:13:55 scene prior to a search warrant being executed. While they wait, investigators get word that the notary Carla Tribor has been found. When investigators speak to the shaken witness, Carla explains she was summoned to the ranch to assist siblings Shane and Kelly Moore with a property transfer from their elderly mother. What Carla told us during the interview was that she had received a call from Shane Moore to come up to the residents and get a quick claim deed signed, splitting the property 50-50 between he and Kelly.
Starting point is 00:14:36 When Carla arrived, she found Shane's mother, sister, niece, and a roommate named Carlton, but no shame. When the door opened, Kelly Moore was yelling the whole time, you know, what do you want, what do you need? It was just one right after another. And we went over to the table. She wanted me to sit right in one certain space. I hadn't really seen the papers, so I picked them up to explain what it was and to read over them.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Carla says that's when the chaos began. So there a spute was that they didn't know it was grand-dead. They thought it was a will. So she comes back to the table and she grabs the paper that was to my left with my stuff. And she goes, that's a grand deed. I was told it was a will. She's not signing it, so she rips it up.
Starting point is 00:15:33 That's when Carla spotted Shane on the front porch watching through a window. And she says, oh, that's just my brother. So when he got to the front, Kelly got up from the table and went over to the door. Moments later, Carla heard Shane's sister and a young woman confront Shane at a door just out of sight. She's wrestling with the door and saying,
Starting point is 00:15:59 you know, he's trying to come in, he's trying to come in. And I hear the gun go off, and I'm like, oh, good God. At that point, I was really, really scared. Remember, I just started talking, you know, to grandma, because I just, I didn't know what to do. When Carla finally realized Shane had been shot, she scrambled to contact authorities.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I was shaking so bad I couldn't dial the phone. I was trying to dial 911. She really needed to leave immediately. And that's the reason why she passed the phone off to just anybody that could take it during the 911 call and got out of there. Though Carla didn't see the shooting firsthand, she does know who wasn't on the porch during the scuffle.
Starting point is 00:16:43 She had told us Carlton was not involved, that it was Kelly and Tucker and Shane. And so they were taken down for a formal interview, the rest of the witnesses were not determined to be either persons of interest or suspects at the time. When investigators sit down with Shane's sister, 59-year-old Kelly Moore, she is eager to tell detectives that Shane was a bad seed. When Kelly was interviewed by the detectives with the Medford Police Department,
Starting point is 00:17:10 she talked about how Shane lived out at the property, how she believed he was using drugs out there. There's a big barn back here. His marijuana growing is here. There's a meat block where downstairs were, I have every reason to believe that he's making methamphetamines. Kelly says she and her daughter Tucker were staying at the ranch with her mom because of her brother's dangerous behavior. She's afraid. She's afraid of change. She's afraid of dying.
Starting point is 00:17:44 She makes us stay here with her. behavior. She's afraid. She's afraid of change. She's afraid of dying. She makes a stinger with her. So we reluctantly stayed with her. We didn't want to be out there. But according to Kelly, Shane took their presence as a threat. Kelly explains that nine months ago, the tension came to a head. September of 2015, Shane was
Starting point is 00:18:04 getting ready to leave the residence, and Tucker said something. I think she cursed Adam or something similar to that. So Shane picked up a plastic cord of oil and threw it back towards the front door, which was closed. But it was just the screen, and it went through the screen and hit her in the face. Locked her down to the floor, it hit her so hard.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Couldn't have taken out her eye, but it hit her on the cheekbones, split open her skin, she's permanently scarred from it. And she called the police. There's a criminal case and Shane, he ended up getting charged with fourth degree assault and the court issues a no contact order. Kelly claims the move only further
Starting point is 00:18:51 infuriated Shane and the threats escalated. He was going to kill us. If the tiger didn't take drop for charges, tiger didn't drop for charges. He's going to kill us. Knowing Shane's biggest fear was to lose his share of the inheritance, Kelly harkened back to her days as an attorney and came up with what she hoped
Starting point is 00:19:12 would be a solution. I was gonna adulterate the world with additional language that said that if anything happened to my mother or my family or, you know, or property damage or anything else because we had damage to our cars. But he would be immediately disinherited. I felt like that would be our insurance. We would be safe.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I wouldn't have to worry about him anymore. So when Kelly realized Shane had asked the notary to prepare a grant deed to ensure the property was split equally between them instead of a will, she was furious. I said, oh no, my mother is not signing this. This is her property. She's not signing this. And I ripped it into four pieces. And Shane was outside just sliding glass doors, looking in. And he started to come around to the front door. And I popped to myself, oh my god, I locked the door. And no contact order was in place on the date of this incident, which
Starting point is 00:20:17 would prohibit Shane from having contact with Tucker. And I'm trying to shut the door. And he's shoving it into me, shoving it into me. And I'm leaning forward, trying to shut the door and he's shabbin' it into me, shabbin' it into me. And I'm leaning forward, trying to shut the door. Take your time. It's okay. And he was trying to come in. He was trying to hurt me. And God only knows what else he was going to do. Though investigators feel a confession
Starting point is 00:20:50 might be on the horizon, the interview takes an unexpected turn. OK. It won't happen to have us in here. That's the end of my statement. I don't want to pretend Tellas behind that? No, I don't. Coming up, a final witness tells a harrowing tale.
Starting point is 00:21:14 She started opening the door entering the house. I was absolutely sure he was going to kill my mother. And a chilling call from Shane just hours before his death three surfaces. I don't know what the hell they're thinking about. I don't want any trouble. It's debatable whether it was self-defense, whether this was something more sinister. Just hours after the mysterious murder of 63-year-old Shane Moore, investigators in Jackson County
Starting point is 00:21:50 are at a stalemate with Shane's sister, 59-year-old Kelly Moore. That was the end of my statement, as I think what she said. That's the end of my statement. Detectives hope Kelly's daughter Tucker will be more forthcoming. Tucker brought up the incident with her and her uncle Shane. Tucker was, yeah, he purposely threw it at my face, threw the door, knowing I was standing back there. That case was filed as an assault for
Starting point is 00:22:18 constituting domestic violence and harassment. And when it cases charged with those charges, there's a no-contact order that goes into place. But even with a no-contact order in place, Tucker claims Shane continued to threaten her. You ever threaten to kill you? Yes. Although eager to express her fear,
Starting point is 00:22:44 Tucker is less keen to talk about what happened on the ranch just a few hours earlier. She didn't like me impressed for specific information. If it was broad, she would answer it, no problem. But the details are where she would get hanked up a little bit and not want to answer. We know there's a past established it.
Starting point is 00:23:06 A lot led you to where we're at today, but we've got to have it from you. You were there, I wasn't. Feeling the pressure, Tucker slowly begins to talk. I found a gun that I believed belonged to my grandfather. I wanted to know if it was loaded. I took it outside on the porch, and I fired it. That was this morning.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Tucker says she gave the gun to her mother. Once I showed her the scum, she's like, let's put it in a central place. And there's a napkin over at her. So the nobby wasn't scared. It was staged there, just in case something needed to be down to protect the residents. Sure enough, Tucker claims trouble started brewing when she
Starting point is 00:23:51 spotted Shane outside the window watching as her mother tore up the demon. Everybody was screaming from what I can remember. And Shane started opening the door and entering the house. Look at it. And he was banging the door into my mother, and my mother was screaming, and he was screaming. Tucker says that's when she grabbed the gun
Starting point is 00:24:13 from under the napkin. I was absolutely sure he was going to kill my mother. He told her earlier in the day that he was going to kill her. She messed anything up for him, and she ripped pieces of paper out right in front of them. She described him pushing the door to the residence with his shoulder and reaching around the back of the door,
Starting point is 00:24:35 like from a horror movie. I have the god. I'm sorry. OK, just take your photos. I'm sorry. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay, just take your photos.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I'm sorry. Okay, just take your photos. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay, just take your photos. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay, just take your photos.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Okay. I'm sorry. Okay, just take your photos. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay, just take your photos. Okay. Okay. This is so good. Did you get in the lock? Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:10 The difference is super good. Did you think Shane was going to cause more and come through the door? Yes. Despite Tucker's claims of self-defense, detectives decide to press charges. At this point, manslaughter was the only crime that seemed to fit. We had murder without intent, which is manslaughter.
Starting point is 00:25:39 The next morning, Tucker makes bail and investigators head to the ranch armed with a search warrant. We recovered the firearm from the console table right inside the front door, numerous pieces of civil paperwork regarding the incident. We found the one that was ripped into four pieces that Kelly had torn. Upon closer examination, the murder weapon reveals compelling evidence. So you open the cylinder, and it showed that one round had been fired. So what that means, if the same gun had been fired earlier in the day, which Tucker had told us
Starting point is 00:26:15 that it was the same gun, somebody had had to take the time to pull that spent casing out from the earlier firing and reload it, so it's ready with a full cylinder of rounds for later on. So it was a premeditated. Suddenly, Tucker's claims of self-defense don't seem so clear-cut. It's debatable whether, you know, obviously,
Starting point is 00:26:41 whether it was self-defense, whether this was something more sinister. As investigators wrap up at the ranch, they learn that before the notary called 9-1-1, there was another call for help at 140 PM from the Moore homestead. OK, what's your last name? My last name is Moore.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Hey, Christine. Shane is a J&E. Shane Moore had reported that Tucker read fire to gun on the property that day. Shane was under the impression that his niece Tucker was doing this to try and scare him. I'm expecting another public to be here at 2 o'clock to 2.30. And I know one of the trouble with my sister doing the housey. The kid fired off a gun over here this morning. You know, like, they were, I don't know what the hell.
Starting point is 00:27:29 They're making it. I need to know the public to get rid of my mother. I don't want any trouble. I wonder if I can get a sheriff after that. But the Jackson County Sheriff never responded to Sheen's request. Unfortunately, we don't get involved in civil cases. That's not our job. And so for those reasons, we don't go out there.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Between the fully loaded gun and Shane's call for help, investigators have even more doubts about Tucker and Kelly's claims of self-defense. The only people involved that talked to us were Kelly and Tucker, who were claiming self-defense. We didn't have anything to clearly refute their story. Nobody else saw what had happened there. We needed Shane's story, but we weren't going to get it. After five days of no solid leads, on August 1st, detectives receive a call from Shane's roommate, Stacey McKenzie, that might shed some light on Shane's perspective. She did not want to talk to us that day because she
Starting point is 00:28:32 had an outstanding warrant for her arrest. She kind of disappeared from the scene the day of, and I guess she had some good information. Once at the station, Stacey tells them that it was Shane who was scared for his life that day, not Tucker and Kelly. They were not afraid. They were not afraid of Shane at all. Shane was afraid of them. Shane actually told me the day that he died. He goes, I'm afraid for my life, Stacey. Because I'm afraid that somebody's going to kill me. One of them are going to kill me.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Coming up, family secrets are revealed. She would take whatever she could get from anybody. She always had her hand out. And detectives get an unbelievable firsthand look at Shane's final moments. Get out! I got it! Get it! Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh After 26-year-old Tucker Moore read shot her uncle Shane Moore, his roommate Stacey McKenzie
Starting point is 00:29:47 has come forward with new information regarding Shane's sister Kelly. Kelly is the greediest person that I know that I've ever known in my whole life. They used to fight like cats and dogs horribly. Many, always many, his sister always had this dire need for lots and lots of money. And she would take whatever she could get for anybody. Kelly hadn't worked since, I don't know, the late 90s according to family members and was living off her parents at the time.
Starting point is 00:30:24 According to Stacey, Kelly believed Shane's full-time caretaking of their aging mother was a ruse to move in on their inheritance. She made multiple statements over years, periods of time that Shane wasn't going to get anything. The property was supposed to be worth somewhere between two to three million dollars. Stacey explains, Shane decided that as soon as his mother died,
Starting point is 00:30:54 he was leaving Kelly and the ranch behind. In an effort to prevent any disputes over her will down the road, he'd asked his mother to help him settle the matter now. If mom passed away, then he would be able to cash in the quick claim deed and get his money and just leave, and not have any problems whatsoever, and that's what he wanted. And his mom was like in total compliance with that,
Starting point is 00:31:17 she was like, yeah, that's not a problem, Shane. On the afternoon of July 26, when the signing was to take place, Shane left their house to head down to his mother's. Not long after, Stacy heard the screams. I just bolted and ran out the door and ran over there. And when I got over there, Shane was on the ground. I was yelling and screaming at Tucker. The screaming heard it, get the hell away from him.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Because she was standing over the top of him with the gun in her hand. And she was yelling him to die. The next thing I heard was Kelly screaming out the door. What do you mean he's not dead yet? And there was blood coming out of his nose and his mouth, and I didn't know where the blood was coming from. Based on what you saw, it didn't look like Kelly was willing
Starting point is 00:32:13 to help in any way. Oh, God no. Kelly stood there in yellow that Shane haven't you died yet? You piece of s***. Why aren't you dead yet? Stacey believes that when Tucker and Kelly stashed the gun in the kitchen that day, they did so with one thing in mind. I knew the truth, and it wasn't man-slotter.
Starting point is 00:32:36 It was murder. It was cold-blooded, calculated murder. Over the next few weeks, investigators reach out to other family members to build their case against Tucker. I spoke to Ryan Moore, Shane and Kelly's brother who lived somewhere in Northern California. He said that there's, I think, four or five siblings total. And he said Kelly and Shane haven't gotten along for a long time. It was Kelly's doing not shanes. They're falling out.
Starting point is 00:33:10 That she was just very manipulative and arrogant. From my perspective, my sister's blood, my parents dry. Ryan admits that Shane didn't have a job either, but he at least earned his keep. Shane was taking care of the farm. He was working hard. He was working harder than I was going to work. He was taking care of the orchards,
Starting point is 00:33:36 clearing the creeks, and cutting brush. According to Ryan, his brother has always been a gentle soul. It has shamed ever been a aggressive or violent person, as far as you know. I never witnessed him being aggressive or violent. However, Ryan says he has plenty of stories to tell about his sister Kelly's temper. Ryan said he cut ties with Kelly years ago after a family reunion.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Ryan confronted Kelly about mooching off of her parents and financially, and Kelly had taken offense to that and went after Ryan with a fireplace poker. As for Tucker, Ryan says the Apple didn't fall far from the tree. She's got the crazy, rages. She is her mother's daughter. That's what I would say. Following the interviews with Ryan and Stacey,
Starting point is 00:34:43 investigators suspect the story Tucker and Kelly are spinning isn't the whole truth, but they need to prove it. Finally, after six months of little traction in the investigation, detectives get a break from an unlikely source, Tucker. This is coming from the DA's office who's speaking with her defense attorney.
Starting point is 00:35:06 There's a video from her cell phone from that day of the incident. Tucker's attorney claims the video will prove that Tucker acted in self-defense. The DA who's assigned to the case calls me and says, hey, you gotta come watch the video. Is grandma coming out? Oh, I don't think she was aware of what was going on.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Well, she has to come out and you have to take all the dog. She needs to stay away from the property. She's narrating, she's saying, I see this man, Shane, he's aggressive and dangerous. This man, this man, he threatened this woman's life, my mother, unless she signed that paper. He's just standing there, doing nothing, wearing flip flops and a tank top and a hat.
Starting point is 00:35:53 He's not doing anything aggressive. She's not signing your hand-dealing on you. She's not signing a grand-dee. I was told it wasn't in her. She was told it wasn't inheritance or will. And an addendum to her will. A will. This is a grant deed. You're not signing a grant deed, Father.
Starting point is 00:36:12 No, I am not signing a grant deed. He's coming into the house. God damn it. What's the problem, help? Pick up the gun. She's not signing a grant deed, Shane. I thought it was a will. She's not signing a grant deed show. I thought it was a will. She's not signing a grand beach.
Starting point is 00:36:25 You son of a bitch! Kelly runs over to the front door, screaming, and then Tucker goes to the table and picks up a gun that's under a napkin that's sitting on the table, and runs over to the front door. Get out! I got it! Get it, buddy! Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, It's proven in our case. Coming up, Tucker's talents go on display.
Starting point is 00:37:07 When she first bailed out, she decided that she was going to act in this movie from the dark. They told us, in our movie, she shoots somebody. When she shoots this character, she absolutely believes she's doing it out of self-defense. doing it out of self-defense. MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC murder. Essentially this is what we needed. I mean all this self-defense claims got thrown
Starting point is 00:37:45 out the door as soon as the video came to us. So it did the opposite of what the defense was hoping that it would do. But the wheels of justice turned slowly. I talked to the D80s like now we're staying with manslaughter. Something came up where we had to take it back through grand jury, just change some verbiage in the manslaughter statute that needed to be added. It was about a year before we had the murder and indictment reached by the Grand Jury after the video it surfaced.
Starting point is 00:38:16 On September 4, 2018, Jackson County investigators arrest 28-year-old Tucker Moore read again. This time, upgrading the charges against her from manslaughter to murder in the 2016 shooting death of her uncle, Shane Moore. Following the arrest, Tucker appears before a judge for her bail hearing. She decided there will be no bail. That's when Tucker lost her mind. I mean, I was sitting two feet away from her,
Starting point is 00:38:48 and it was loud. Even in another room, you know, even a room away, you could still hear these intense whaling. It was something that was just chilling at the time. Following the hearing, investigators are approached by a local filmmaker, Matthew Spickard. He tells them that while Tucker was out on bail last year, he cast her in a film. When she first bailed out, she decided that she was going to act in this movie from the dark that was filmed in Josephine County.
Starting point is 00:39:22 They had wrapped up their filming by the time we got the murder indictment and arrested her on that charge later on. Matthew and his daughter Trinity, a writer on the film, described their first meeting with Tucker as she auditioned for the horror flick. Before shooting began, we held an open casting call on Facebook and that's where we met Tucker, who was going by the name Win Reed at the time. We held an open casting call on Facebook, and that's where we met Tucker, who was going by the name Win Reed at the time. He did stand out right away as someone that looked like
Starting point is 00:39:51 could fit the role on the right age. I was very impressed with her. We were like, oh, yes, we have this wonderful, talented girl who's gonna really take our movie to this next level. Matthew says that when he learned of the murder charge, he immediately reached out to police. They told us, in our movie, she shoot somebody.
Starting point is 00:40:14 So we requested the director's cut of the movie for evidence to review and look. Investigators focus on one scene in particular. Following a party, Tucker's character finds herself armed and in the dark. It's a very intense atmosphere. There's lots of fear. There's lots of panic and confusion. The scene is her holding up a cell phone for a flashlight and a gun, you know. And then the guy comes out basically from this doorway
Starting point is 00:40:47 of this other room trying to like, talk her down and say, you know, give me the gun and she just out of her fear of the whole situation, shoot. I'm right here, hold the screen. Basically, when she shoots this character, she absolutely believes she's doing it out of self-defense because of the situation.
Starting point is 00:41:09 But when you see the movie, you'll see that, oh, that is technically murder. He slayed the lead role in a horror movie when he was so good at the role. The scenes similarities with real life are both uncanny and unnerving. It's very bizarre. It's something you couldn't make up. But anyone eager to see Tucker's next performance at her trial has to wait.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Over the course of the case, Ms. Moore Reed had multiple attorneys, and so when a new attorney would sign on to the case or file a notice of appearance, they of course had to be brought up to speed before any trial dates could get set. I did call the district attorney a few times, you know, asking why is it taking, you know, so long what's going on, you know, what's the update? And it was always, you know, well,
Starting point is 00:42:00 she's getting another attorney, well, she got a different attorney. In the meantime, prosecutors' worried Tucker's continued claims of self-defense will be a difficult hurdle to overcome during trial. The DAs were under the assumption that there would at least be one juror every single time that would vote not guilty,
Starting point is 00:42:22 possibly deciding this sounds like it was self-defense. By May 2020, nearly four years after the murder, 30-year-old Tucker finally settles on an attorney and soon reaches a deal with prosecutors. Tucker ended up with 75 months for a plea deal associated with a manslaughter in the second degree crime. That's what they settled on with credit for time served, so essentially that means she'll get released in just a few years.
Starting point is 00:42:56 We didn't want to have to retry this over and over again if the jury were not to come to a conclusion unanimously, either all guilty or all not guilty. That is just a gourd when I gave her six years. It's nowhere near enough. [♪eerie music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in There was no evidence of conspiracy, even though the thoughts were always in the back of our minds. There's a lot that I never was able to understand. I've never known anybody to be so loving and caring
Starting point is 00:43:35 and giving his chain and to be treated the way that he was by his own family. And his don't know, his greed. That's what it comes down to, is greed. Tucker Moore Read could be released from prison as early as November 25th, 2024, at the age of 35. Shane's mother, Laura, continues to live on the ranch in Oregon with her daughter Kelly nearby.
Starting point is 00:44:04 with her daughter Kelly nearby.

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