Sold a Story - 1: The Problem

Episode Date: October 20, 2022

Corinne Adams watches her son's lessons during Zoom school and discovers a dismaying truth: He can't read. Little Charlie isn't the only one. Sixty-five percent of fourth graders ...in the United States are not proficient readers. Kids need to learn specific skills to become good readers, and in many schools, those skills are not being taught.Read: Emily Hanford’s reading listRead: Transcript of this episodeSupport: Donate to APMMore: soldastory.org

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Whether you're doing a dance to your favorite artist in the office parking lot, or being guided into Warrior I in the break room before your shift, whether you're running on your Peloton tread at your mom's house while she watches the baby, or counting your breaths on the subway. Peloton is for all of us, wherever we are whenever we need it, download the free Peloton app today. Peloton app available through free tier or paid subscription starting at $12.99 per month. Guide dogs lead very interesting lives. For 10 or 12 years, they are in charge of guiding a blind person.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I got this recording from the U.S. Department of Education. They give a reading test every two years to a sample of kids. Most guide dogs are born at a camel. This is a fourth grader who did well on the test, reading a passage about guide dogs. The dogs train in large groups for about three months, but most kids don't do well on this test. Dogs are...
Starting point is 00:01:22 In fact, a third of fourth graders read so poorly, they sound more like this. This child gets through only a fraction of the passage and can't read several words that are key to understanding what's going on. Words like guide and blind. One in three kids in fourth grade reads like this. How did that happen? I'm Emily Hanford. I'm an education reporter. And about five years ago, I started to get really interested
Starting point is 00:01:55 in why so many kids are having a hard time learning to read. And what I discovered is that in schools all over this country and in other parts of the world too, kids are not being taught how to read. Schools think they're teaching kids to read, of course they do. But it turns out there's a big body of scientific research about reading and how kids learn to do it. This research shows there are important skills that all kids need to learn to become good readers. And in lots of schools, they aren't being taught these skills.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Over the past few years, I produced a series of radio documentaries and articles about this. And the response was like nothing I've ever experienced in my career. Thousands of emails and messages and posts on social media. And there were basically two kinds of things people were saying. The first was, I know, I know, I've been trying to tell people this for years. The other response was, I had no idea. This is what I heard from lots of teachers. They had no idea. They weren't teaching kids how to read. What I've been trying to figure out is why. Why didn't they know? Why haven't schools been teaching children how to read?
Starting point is 00:03:18 And I have an answer. an answer. This is Sold a Story, a podcast from American Public Media. I've got a lot to tell you over the next six episodes, but I'm going to tell you the answer to the question right now. Kids are not being taught how to read because for decades teachers have been sold an idea about reading and how children learn to do it and that idea is wrong. The people who have been selling this idea, I don't have any reason to believe they thought it was wrong. I think they wanted what I think everyone wants. They
Starting point is 00:04:02 wanted kids to learn how to read, they wanted kids to love reading. But they believed so deeply in their idea about how to do that, that they somehow ignored or explained a whole lot of evidence that showed the idea was wrong, and they went on to make a lot of money. In this podcast, we're going to focus on one publishing company and four of its top authors. They are not the only ones who've been selling this wrong idea about reading, but they've
Starting point is 00:04:33 been the most successful at it. Chances are you have no idea who this company and these people are, unless you've worked in an elementary school any time in the last 20 years or so. Then you probably know exactly who I'm talking about. She was like a rock star walking into that building. If Beyonce came and gave a private concert in my district, it would not have been a bigger deal for many of my teachers. Their books on teaching reading became must-habs for teachers.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I used to call them my Bibles. Yeah, I kept it as my Bible. Everything that I did was based off of their work. A generation of teachers believed what these authors and this company were telling them. They framed a picture of reading instruction that seemed beautiful, like softly lit rooms. Kids were gonna have cozy nooks where they were curling up with a good book.
Starting point is 00:05:26 It got your heart, along with your mind. But a key idea in their work had been disproven before some of today's teachers were even born. A lot of teachers didn't know that. What I'm haunted by is when it wasn't working, I blamed it on children. I mean, I blamed it on children. I mean, I feel like I harmed kids to be honest with you
Starting point is 00:05:48 because I didn't give them what they needed. Teachers and parents and policymakers are waking up to the fact that there's a problem. We're all following this kind of benigned approach. How do we get into this mess? Why are we doing it this way? In this podcast, we're going to investigate where this wrong idea about reading came from, how it's harming kids, and why a company
Starting point is 00:06:13 and four of its top authors have been able to sell it for so long. I've been working on the story with another reporter. His name is Christopher Peek. We've interviewed more than 125 people. We've requested records from nearly 200 school districts. We scoured university archives and libraries as far away as New Zealand. We found old videotapes and bought a used VCR so we could watch them. We're going to get to that, tell you about the authors and the company and what we learned about them.
Starting point is 00:06:44 get to that. Tell you about the authors and the company and what we learned about them. But in this first episode, I'm going to tell you about how kids are being taught in classrooms where this wrong idea about reading has taken root. Okay, so we're recording. Okay, I'm Karen Adams. I live in South Kingston, Rhode Island. I have two kids, six and two boy and a girl. Her son is the older one. His name is Charlie. When she sent him off to kindergarten in the fall of 2019,
Starting point is 00:07:13 Corinne had no concerns. One of the reasons she and her husband had moved to South Kingston is everyone told them the schools were great. She had no idea how her son's school was teaching reading. Who thinks about that? I don't know how to teach a child how to read, so I just assumed that the children I sent to school would come back to me literate because that's what school does, right? At first everything seemed fine. Charlie would come home with these little books,
Starting point is 00:07:44 the same book every day for a week. And you'd practice that book and send it back At first, everything seemed fine. Charlie would come home with these little books, the same book every day for a week. And you'd practice that book and send it back, and that's what we did. There were directions for the parents about how to read these books with their children. It was like read the book to the child first, and then eventually the child will have practiced it enough
Starting point is 00:08:01 that they'll read it and it'll be great, you know? And he would listen to me read it, pay very close attention to what I was saying, repeat that. And if it was a new book mommy you read it to me first. Charlie wasn't interested in trying to read books. She hadn't already read to him. New books like freaked him out. He didn't want to do that. She was a little concerned maybe he was just memorizing the books. They were pretty simple stories with predictable patterns. Sentences like, I like to play with a train. I like to play with my dog. Charlie was able to read these books,
Starting point is 00:08:35 but was he really reading? She wasn't sure. But the school said he was doing great. They were telling me he was doing fine. They were telling me he was on level. When Charlie did well on something in school, the teacher would send home a little note. And he would get them all the time for like great reading.
Starting point is 00:08:52 He would get them in a soap backpack and I'd be like, oh, you're doing so great. And then March of 2020, the pandemic. Suddenly, Karin was in kindergarten too, watching as Charlie and his classmates were being taught over Zoom. So we sit together and I participate, you know, I help him make sure he can unmute himself and all that stuff. Corinne's a stay-at-home mom. She wasn't juggling online school with another job. So she was watching pretty closely. And the reading instructions seemed kind of odd to her. They gave us like these strategies to follow.
Starting point is 00:09:32 These were things kids were supposed to do when they came to a word they didn't know. Strategies to figure out the word. They were things like, look at the picture, look at the first letter of the word, think of a word that makes sense. Corinne wanted to tell Charlie to sound out the word, but handouts coming from school were telling her that wasn't a good idea, that sounding out words should be a last resort. So I was like, okay, well, this is a new different way,
Starting point is 00:10:00 and I'm sure they understand what they're doing, because I do remember sounding out. I do remember that activity. But Charlie and his classmates were being taught to use these other strategies. We're going to look at our book Zelda and Ivy the Runaways. This is a video Charlie's teacher had her students watch during Zoom school in first grade. It's not Charlie's teacher in the video, but it's a lesson from the curriculum the school district was using. I'm gonna read a little bit of this story to you,
Starting point is 00:10:29 and if I get stuck on a word, I want you to try to help me figure out what that word could be. The teacher reads the story. The kids can see the words on the screen, they're following along as she reads. And then the teacher comes to a word that she's covered up with a little yellow sticky note.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Okay, so we're going to stop right here on this covered word. And the teacher says, what could this word be? Let's look at the picture. We're going to see if the picture helps us to figure out what that word would be. The kids can't see the word. It's covered with the sticky note. So there's no way they can sound it out. They're just trying to figure out what the word could be's covered with the sticky note. So there's no way they can sound it out. They're just trying to figure out what the word could be based on what's going on in the story. If we think about what's happening so far in the story, we know Zelda and Ivy's dad
Starting point is 00:11:13 made cucumber sandwiches for lunch. And Zelda and Ivy didn't want to eat the sandwiches, so they ran away. And now they think their mom and dad will... Will what? Zelda and Ivy ran away, and now they think their mom and dad will scold them, find them. Do you think that covered word could be the word miss? Ah, miss them. Could it be the word miss? Because now that they're gone, maybe their parents will miss them?
Starting point is 00:11:44 The teacher asks the kids to think about whether miss could be the word, using the strategies they've been taught. Let's do our triple check and see. Does it make sense? Does it sound right? How about the last part of our triple check? Does it look right? Let's uncover the word and see if it looks right. The teacher lifts up the sticky note and indeed the word is miss.
Starting point is 00:12:10 It looks right too. Good job. Very good job. Go ahead and click on the next slide so you can practice this strategy on our next part of our story. This seemed weird to Corinne. Why have kids guess the word? Why not have them look at the word and try to actually read it? And I said to my sense teacher, I was like, this isn't how we learned how to read, like meaning me and her. And I just, like, kept nagging at me, like, at the back of my mind, like, this isn't how we did it, right? Like, this can't be right, right? at me, like in the back of my mind, like this isn't how we did it, right? Like this can't be right, right? What made it all weirder is that the kids were actually being taught some things about how to sound out words. The teacher did some phonics lessons. But when it came to reading books, all that instruction
Starting point is 00:12:59 seemed to go out the window. The books the kids were supposed to read had all kinds of words with spelling patterns they hadn't been taught. So for example they were giving him oh wait was that Christmas time and it was from the book Chicken Soup with Rice. Chicken Soup with Rice is a book by Maurice Sendak that was turned into a song by Carol King. I loved this song when I was a kid. It goes through every month of the year, January through December. In December, I will be a bottle offangled Christmas Christmas. And it's like, in December, I will be a bobbled, bangled Christmas tree. And they wanted him to read that.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I just was like, how? She knew there was no way Charlie could read bobbled or bangled, or even guess those words by using the pictures. It's possible Corinne would have just brushed all this off whatever he'll figure it out. The school says he's doing fine. But she also had to give Charlie a reading assessment at home. Not something apparent would normally be asked to do, but this was
Starting point is 00:14:11 COVID. And I wasn't allowed to read it to him first and I couldn't help him in any way. I just I could point to the words for him and that was that he had to read it. She gave him the test. They're sitting in their kitchen. Charlie's two-year-old sister is playing in the background. They're sitting in their kitchen, Charlie's two-year-old sister is playing in the background, and Charlie has to read a book called How Things Move. How things move? This is that reading assessment. Corinne recorded it. You...is...my.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Here's the sentence Charlie is trying to read. This toy moves when you push it. There's a picture in the book of a girl pushing a truck. You? It's Charlie's body part. Charlie is grasping for straws. He has no idea how to read most of the words in this book. Some of the words he is saying are not even on the page.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Ah, blocks. It was just like eye-popping, and I went into my bedroom and cried. Ha, ha. MUSIC And then she went to her computer and she started googling, what was this way that her kid was being taught how to read? And she found some of the articles and documentaries I had written. That's when it was like a realization that what is happening, oh my god, what's happening. She tried talking to some other parents.
Starting point is 00:15:46 And they kind of looked at me like I was insane. Their kids were doing fine or so they thought, because that's what Corinne had thought too. Then she started posting about her experience on Twitter. There were parents who were like, oh my God, like, this is my kid. This is happening to me. Like, this is happening to me and I'm in Chicago
Starting point is 00:16:05 or I'm in California or I'm in wherever else. It didn't seem like they were really teaching them to read. This is one of those parents. It seemed like they were teaching them to sound like they could read. I contacted this parent after I saw his post on Twitter. His name is Lee Gull. He lives in New York City.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And in the middle of COVID, finally vaccinated, I hopped on a train from DC where I live, and I met Lee on the upper east side of Manhattan. So we see tomorrow, we see tomorrow. We're picking Lee's daughter up from school. Her name is Zoe, and she's just about to finish first grade. She goes to the public school that's a few blocks from their apartment. The school was using the same reading curriculum that Charlie's school was using.
Starting point is 00:16:54 All right, I'm supposed to meet Catherine in the middle circle in Grande Park. Oh, see how her to get a plan, looks good. It's a gorgeous spring day and we're on our way to the park around the corner from Zoe's school. The park is full of kids and parents and nannies. The sprinklers are on. The children are running around. We're in one of the richest zip codes in the United States. Zoe goes to a school with a great reputation.
Starting point is 00:17:21 You'd think she'd be taught how to read. But that's not what Lee was seeing. When the pandemic hit, he lost his job. So when Zoe was at home doing Zoom school, he was there watching everything just like Corinne was. I would hear her reading and I would hear the other kids reading. This was the first time we talked. I was at home and he was at home.
Starting point is 00:17:43 And the audio quality isn't very good. They weren't reading. They were doing what the teachers told them, and they were just guessing. I mean, there's no two ways about it. They were guessing, and I just thought like, okay, well eventually they guessed their way into being able to read on the swimming.
Starting point is 00:18:01 But it wasn't happening for Zoe. She didn't seem to be getting it and she was frustrated. Lee went to the internet. He came up with the reporting I had done too. He followed the footnotes, started reading some of the research himself, and he was shocked, confused, concerned. He tried to talk to the other parents at the park about what was going on with reading instruction at their school. A couple of parents were like, yeah, I know, I'm just so frustrated with it, I can't even deal with it. But for the most part, people responded to him the way they responded to Corinne. It was almost like saying, I saw aliens, I saw the ship and you have to believe me, right?
Starting point is 00:18:39 Like, people were like, oh, yeah, okay. I go, yeah, okay. No one wants to believe their child's school isn't teaching kids how to read. And a school with a great reputation on the upper east side of Manhattan. Lee says, if he hadn't been sitting there watching the instruction, he and his wife probably would have thought
Starting point is 00:19:02 there was something wrong with Zoe. She wasn't learning to read because she had a problem. We probably would be like, okay, what's wrong with her? Like let's get her somehow. Let's take her to, you know, counselors and psychologists and hearing experts and seeing experts and figure all this stuff out. But he didn't think the problem was with Zoe. He didn't think she had a reading disability.
Starting point is 00:19:27 The problem was, she wasn't being taught how to read. So, he decided to teach her himself. More on that, after a break. What you watch depends on what kind of major in. Sometimes you're craving comedies like friends or South Park, and sometimes you're more into dramas like HBO's Succession and House of the Dragon. There's also cooking shows like Chopped and Beat Bobby Flay and even movies like The Lord of the Rings and Shazam, Theory of the Gods.
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Starting point is 00:20:16 Our only agenda is to find the truth and share it with you, to identify who holds power in influence and hold them accountable. We count undonations to do this important work. You can make a gift to support us today at soldastory.org slash donate. You can also find a link in our show notes. In the summer of 2021, on an unseasonably cool day for Washington DC, I went to the Georgetown Public Library.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I'm here to meet one of the children's librarians. Her name is Ruth Fitz. She's doing story time for preschoolers outside on a Saturday morning. Our first book was requested last week. The monster at the end of this book, starring lovable furry old rover. Hello everybody! The children are quiet and adorable, sitting on little carpet squares
Starting point is 00:21:21 wearing colorful masks to keep the virus at bay. I came here to see Ruth Fitz because I'd been talking to a friend of hers, a former teacher who is now a private reading tutor. We were talking about the perception that it's mostly kids from poor families who struggle to learn how to read, and she said, go talk to Ruth, because she's a librarian in one of the richest neighborhoods in Washington. And parents are coming to her all the time and asking, do you have a book I can use to teach my child to read? I've had so many interactions with highly educated parents who were been told like, my child
Starting point is 00:22:03 is behind and there's all this guilt and like, what have I not done? She says there's a big belief out there that kids just naturally learn to read if their parents read to them enough. When you ask them what is the child been learning in school, a lot of it is just practice reading. No instruction in how to read. We're just going to practice and you're just going to figure it out. Some kids do figure it out. They don't need much instruction. But a whole bunch of research shows this is not actually true for most kids. They need to be taught how to read. It doesn't happen naturally through exposure to books. Ruth says it comes as a shock to a lot of families
Starting point is 00:22:51 when they realize schools aren't teaching their kids how to read. Suddenly, they realize they have to teach their kids themselves or hire a tutor, which she says a lot of them do. But not everyone has the money to hire a tutor or the time to do the teaching themselves. And what you heard about the way Charlie and Zoe were being taught, that can actually harm kids. Those word reading strategies can create bad habits that are really hard to break. He doesn't look at all the letters and words, he doesn't look at all the words and sentences, and reading is miserable for him.
Starting point is 00:23:31 This is Kenny Alden, she lives in California. She was in her car when we talked, waiting for her kids who were at soccer practice. She has two boys who were 12 and 14 at the time. It's her younger one one she's worried about. He omits words, he adds words, he'll substitute a word that makes sense in the context that has a few of the same letters as the actual word
Starting point is 00:23:57 and just cruise right on. She gives an example. He was reading out loud and the word was irrepressible, but he said, irresponsible. And I've got so many examples like that just the other day. The word was misguided and he said misjudged. He said effective when it says efficient. I could give examples from now until forever. These kinds of mistakes can really get in the way when it comes to understanding what you read.
Starting point is 00:24:28 A middle school teacher gave me the example of a kid who thought that in 1939 Poland invited the Germans into their country. That's a lot different from what really happened. The Germans invaded Poland. What's going on with my son is that he was made to feel successful by not looking at all the letters in the words. He learned those strategies, things like look at the first letter, use the picture, think
Starting point is 00:24:54 of a word that makes sense. That's what he was taught, and that's what he did. And so that habit of not looking at the words just continued on. He got farther and farther behind as a reader and writer. And he kept doing the same thing until we are where we are now. He's a kid who doesn't like reading and doesn't like school. He's not failing. Kenny says he does okay. His test scores are actually pretty good.
Starting point is 00:25:32 But he can't spell. He does everything in his power to avoid reading and writing. The idea of him going to high school makes Kenny really anxious. As we're talking, she's looking at the window of her car toward the field where her kids are playing soccer. She's full of regret, because she knew something was wrong when her son was little. She knew. I always knew it was a problem, and maybe there was a time when I should have just stopped
Starting point is 00:26:00 everything. Just, I don't know, a tan leaf of absence from work or something and just fixed it. But I didn't. She and her son's other mom thought about sending him to a different school. But all the public schools where they live in Berkeley, California taught reading the same way. There was no getting away from it.
Starting point is 00:26:21 She was just kind of hoping it would all work out. And it didn't. He stuck with the strategies he was taught, and he never learned how to read very well. So Zoey, why don't you come over here for a second? Let's look at the SIO and stuff that we did before. I'm back with Lee and Zoey on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. Lee is showing me some of the materials he used to teach Zoe how to read. So this is SION and we did TiON before. So look at this word. What is this word? Addition. Yeah, that's right. What is this word?
Starting point is 00:27:05 We're in their apartment. It's a tiny one bedroom. When Lee decided he was going to teach Zoe to read, he scoured the internet for resources. Totted some things about how to sound out words, and got what are known as decodable books. Do you remember what it felt like the first time we read a decodable book? Yeah, it was kind of hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:34 A decodable is a book with words that have spelling patterns a child has been taught. So she can try to read the words. She doesn't have to guess them. And we started reading that book. You I said, have a decodable book. I want you to read it. And let's try and reading it. You're like, okay, okay. And we started reading that book. I said, I have a decodable book. I want you to read it. And let's try and reading it. You're like, OK, OK. And we started reading it.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And I had to stop you after 54 pages, because you read 54 pages of it. Remember that? Yeah. I think both of us were kind of blown away, right? It was like the best thing ever. Yeah, it was so fun to read it wasn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Yeah. Do you have any books you can read to me now? What are you reading? I'm reading the zombie diaries. They're really fun. We read a little bit to me how do you feel about that? Yeah. Do you want to go grab it really quick?
Starting point is 00:28:23 Yeah. Okay. Stay. I'll stay here and just it really quick? Yeah. Okay. Stay. I'll stay here and just get up so you can get by. Zoe scooches past her dad across their apartment to her bedroom and then she's back with her book. This is Book 1 and Book 2. And she starts reading.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I decided to walk Skelly to school today. One thing about Skelly is that she really wait Skelly whatever I'm okay with. Really likes to talk. Zoe is still learning, but at the end of first grade she's clearly on her way to becoming a good reader. Kids who are not on this path by the end of first grade rarely catch up. And that's because of this thing that's been dubbed the Matthew Effect. It's a biblical reference. Basically, when it comes to reading, the rich get richer. If you get off to a good start, you tend to like reading more. You tend to do it more. And the more you read, the better you get off to a good start, you tend to like reading more. You tend to do it more.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And the more you read, the better you get at reading. But the opposite can happen. You don't get off to a good start. Reading is confusing and frustrating, and you don't really like it. Zoe didn't get off to a good start with reading, and then her dad swooped in and changed that. Squid. Squid. Squid.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Zoe was lucky and Charlie was too, because his mom Corinne did exactly what Lee did. After that disastrous reading assessment when she realized Charlie had no idea how to read the words, she decided to teach him herself. She went to the internet, she bought books, and he learned pretty easily. Which tells you that Charlie wasn't struggling because he has a reading disability. He was struggling because he wasn't being taught. Just like Zoe. I shudder to think what would be if I hadn't been home all this time and seeing it, you know. It's possible Zoe would have been fine and Charlie too, if their parents hadn't intervened.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Some kids do eventually put it all together. they don't need much instruction. But 65% of fourth graders in this country are not proficient readers, according to that test I told you about at the beginning of the episode. Scores on that test have been terrible for decades, and the problem is even worse when you look beyond the average and focus on specific groups of children. The most alarming statistic, 82% of Black fourth graders are not proficient readers. That's more than eight in 10 Black children. I think a lot of people just expect that some kids will never read.
Starting point is 00:31:18 What Korean Adams just said, lots of people have said this to me. Reading scores have been so low for so long that many people have come to accept that this is just the way things are. Not something schools can do much about. Karin Adams says what she's learned over the past couple of years is that if you want to make sure your children can read, you should teach them yourself. That's like such a messed up way to have a public school system in this country.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Public schools should be like the sacred trust. I'm going to give you my child and you're going to teach him how to read. And that shattered for me, that was broken. She drafted an email about all this to the principal of her son's school. But she didn't end up sending it because she likes the school, she likes the teachers, she doesn't want to be the problem parent telling them they're doing something wrong, and she doesn't really think this is their fault. Like, I really don't blame teachers. Teachers all over this country think they're doing the right thing. They're teaching, reading the way their curriculum and materials tell them to.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And the people who are selling those materials are trusted, revered, considered the nation's top experts when it comes to teaching reading. Not everything those experts are promoting is wrong, but something is. One really important idea about how kids learn to read. In the next episode, I'm going to tell you about this idea, where it came from, and what's wrong with it. Soul to Story is a podcast from American Public Media. It's reported and produced by me, Emily Hanford, with Christopher Peake.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Our editor is Catherine Winter. Digital editors are Dave Mann and Andy Cruz. Mixing and sound design by Chris Jullin and Emily Havik. We had reporting and production help from Angela Caputo, Will Callen, and Cole Marie Rivera, and fact checking from Betsy Towner Levine. Special thanks to Chris Worlington, Lauren Humbert, and Christine Hutchins. Our theme music is by Jim Brumberg and Ben Landsberg of Wonderly. The final mix of this episode was by Derek Ramirez. We have five more episodes coming.
Starting point is 00:33:48 You'll be able to find them all on our website, soldhistory.org. You can find links to all of our previous articles and documentaries about reading at that website too. Again, it's soldhistory.org. Support for this podcast comes from the Hollyhawk Foundation, the Oak Foundation, and Wendy in www.wendyandstiefengall.com In 2012, a new charity bursts onto the scene. It's called Believe in Magic and it grants wishes to seriously ill children. It has the support of the biggest boy band in the world, One Direction. It's run by an inspirational 16 year old girl called Megan Barry,
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