Sold a Story - 5: The Company

Episode Date: November 10, 2022

Teachers call books published by Heinemann their "bibles." The company's products are in schools all over the country. Some of the products used to teach reading are rooted in a... debunked idea about how children learn to read. But they've made the company and some of its authors millions.Map: Heinemann’s national reachRead: Transcript of this episodeSupport: Donate to APMMore: soldastory.org

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Starting point is 00:00:59 In the early 1990s, Temple Ireland Rosenberger got a temp job at a small company in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. And her supervisor said to her, whatever you do, do not enter the phone, Heineken. And the very first call I took, I said, good afternoon, Heineken. But she wasn't working at Heineken.
Starting point is 00:01:20 She was working at Heinemen. Heinemen is an educational publishing company. Temple says it was a great place to work. Gabriel Price too. It was really awesome. He was a sales rep. It's like one of those, you know, like you see in the sitcom or something like that,
Starting point is 00:01:36 where the guy skateboards to work and it's like skateboarding down the hallway. High-fighting, some 65 year old editor. It wasn't just a fun place. The work was meaningful. It was a place where people were passionate about education and passionate about helping teachers. We all were on a mission.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Lisa Ludicke was an editor. You know, I'd been a teacher every time I looked at a manuscript, I thought, how would I use that in my class? Hydnamen came to the United States from Britain in the late 1970s. At the time, the American publishing market was dominated by big traditional textbook companies. But Hydnamen decided to focus on a new kind of book, professional books for teachers. kind of book, professional books for teachers, kind of like self-help books full of tips and advice for how to teach reading and writing in particular. These books immediately took off. This is Dan Tobin. He worked in educational publishing for decades.
Starting point is 00:02:37 It became a very lucrative business. business. This is Episode 5 of Soul to Story, a podcast from American Public Media. I'm Emily Hanford. In Episode 1, I told you that in this podcast, we would be focusing on four authors and the company that publishes their work. Heinemann is that company. For more than two decades, Heinemann focused mostly on those professional books for teachers. Dedicated to teachers became the company's trademark tagline. But by the early 2000s, Heinemann was expanding beyond those professional books, into the kinds of products put
Starting point is 00:03:25 out by more traditional publishers. But Heinemann maintained its early identity as different from other publishing companies. And this helped Heinemann get its products into schools and helped the company make a lot of money. Despite evidence that shows some products they are selling don't work very well. The first book that Heinemann published for the US market was a collection of papers by Marie Clay, the woman from New Zealand who created the Reading Recovery Program. Heinemann published Lucy Cockin's first book in 1983 and almost every book she's written since. It published books by Irene Fountis and Gaysu Penel
Starting point is 00:04:09 and other authors too. This is Christine Wells, who was an account manager. You know, when they have those first day of school for the teachers, I had districts by thousands of copies of a single book just to give to every teacher. Heinemann had the stuff that was being circulated. You know, they just, they had the goods. That's Temple Ireland Rosenberger again,
Starting point is 00:04:31 the one who accidentally answered the phone, Heineken. She got a job in marketing, but she says Hyneman books didn't need that much marketing. I call it social media before there was social media, right? Like, it was, the social media was in the school. It was, I'm going to pass you my book. I'm going to pass you this thing. And it was trade shows.
Starting point is 00:04:49 It was going to, you know, like, oh, did you hear about this? She remembers going to these trade shows. I saw a teacher crying saying this book changed my life. Teachers who were desperate for help on how to teach reading told me these books were God's sense, like Christine Cronin. She's the teacher in Boston who tried to get on board with Bush's reading first program, but said the curriculum she was given felt old fashioned. She remembers looking at the pictures in books by Fountess and Penel and Lucy Cawkins
Starting point is 00:05:22 and thinking, that's what I want my classroom to be like. They framed a picture of reading instruction that seemed beautiful, like softly lit rooms. Kids were going to have cozy nooks where they were curling up with a good book. It got your heart, along with your mind. Hyneman wasn't just publishing books about how to teach. Heinemann was publishing books about the politics of teaching too,
Starting point is 00:05:50 and in particular, the politics of teaching reading. In the early 2000s, as the battle was heating up over Bush's reading first program, Heinemann published books with titles like this. Big brother and the national reading curriculum, how ideology trumped evidence. In defense of our children, when politics, profit, and education collide, reading for profit, how the bottom line leaves kids behind. The main message of these books was, leave schools alone. Teachers know what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:06:29 They don't need politicians and scientists telling them what to do. And the books were saying, this scientifically-based reading instruction stuff is mostly about publishing companies trying to profit off public education. Lucy Cawkins told The Washington Post in 2002 that the government wanted publishers to make programs that tell teachers what to do. And she said, of course, it is big business.
Starting point is 00:06:56 But of course, Heinemann was a business too. It needed to make money, like all businesses do. And in the early 2000s, Heinemann's parent company was looking for new areas of growth. In a 2004 earnings call, the CEO noted there was growing demand because of Bush's education policies, for assessment systems to gauge student progress, and for intervention noted there was growing demand because of Bush's education policies for assessment systems to gauge student progress and for intervention programs to help struggling readers. Heinemann began creating products to meet that demand. Hello, I'm Angela Everett and I'm here to help you unpack your LLI system.
Starting point is 00:07:42 One of Heinemann's new products was LLI, Leveled Literacy Intervention. This is a reading specialist in North Carolina unpacking a new LLI kit. She posted this video to YouTube. Leveled Literacy Intervention is a program for teachers to use with small groups of children who are struggling with reading. It's by Fountis and Penel. And it's based on the same flawed idea we've been talking about in this podcast. The idea that kids don't need to learn how to sound out words,
Starting point is 00:08:20 because there are other ways to figure out what the words say. I ordered one of these LLI kids from Heinemann. It cost $3,947. And when it arrived at my house, I was shocked. I think I was expecting one box, but there were 10, 10 big, heavy boxes. My sons hauled the boxes to our basement, and it took me more than three hours to unpack them all. I spent most of that time peeling plastic wrap off sets
Starting point is 00:08:52 of leveled books. You've been hearing about leveled books since the first episode. Remember when Corinne Adams was told that her son Charlie was on level and then he couldn't read the words in the book? His school was using leveled books and they were using a Fountis and Penel product to determine his reading level. It's called the Benchmark assessment system. It first came out in 2007. First the student reads a text orally. This is Irene Fountis in a training video. After the student has finished the oral reading, calculate the accuracy rate.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Fountis and Penel's benchmark assessment system comes with a specially designed calculator to help a teacher find a child's accuracy rate. The calculator has Fountis and Pen some panels logo on it. The teacher punches in the number of words in the book, then punches in the number of errors the child made. A book is at a beginning reader's independent reading level if the child got at least 95% of the words right and can answer some comprehension questions. We're going to come back to this assessment system in the second part of the episode to talk about the research on it. I'll tell you now that there isn't much research.
Starting point is 00:10:11 But found some panels benchmark assessment system and their leveled literacy intervention program for helping kids who are behind became blockbusters for Heinemann. In 2013, Heinemann's general manager said that half of Heinemann's sales were coming from those two products alone. Another top seller for Heinemann was the Lucy Kockins curriculum. Kockins created a kit of materials called units of study to help teachers do her reading and writing workshop. School districts were clamoring for these products by Kockins and Fountieson Penel. I would say nine times out of 10 our customers came to us.
Starting point is 00:10:50 This is Sarah Parker, who freelance does a sales rep for Heinemann in Northern California. I never did hard sales. Never had to. And former employees we talked to said that when they did initiate the sales call, they think they got a different kind of reception than they would have if they'd been calling from one of the more traditional publishing companies. I felt like every time I called and I said I was from Heinemann, people were almost like relieved.
Starting point is 00:11:21 This is Christine Wells again, who was an account manager. You heard her earlier. They just liked Heinemann, so and they trusted Heinemann. They know that they cared about teachers and they cared about schools and improving schools and helping teachers become more effective. We wanted to find out how much school districts spent on Heinemann products. So my colleague Christopher Peek sent records requests to the largest school districts in every state. And I asked some how much money they'd spent on high-end-end products in the last decade. So you sent out a hundred requests asking for these records.
Starting point is 00:11:58 On the day that we're recording this, you've gotten records from 83 districts. What'd you learn? Well, let me say first, there are a lot of school districts the United States about 13,000 so this is a small number of districts but these 83 I heard from are some of the biggest. They represent a lot of students all but five of the districts we got records from bought high-end-end products in the last decade and they spent millions. Goennad County Schools in Georgia, they spent $14 million. Baltimore County in Maryland, $11 million. Chicago, $11 million.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Palm Beach County Schools, down in Florida, $9 million. The New York City Schools spent $21 million on the Heinemann products. So big picture here, from the 83 school districts that we have records for. We calculated that Heinemann received at least $215 million over the last 10 years. And that $215 million represents only a fraction of the company's sales. Do we know how much Heinemann makes in total every year?
Starting point is 00:13:00 Heinemann's parent company hasn't disclosed that recently. The last time they made public what Heinemann was earning was in 2013. Back then sales were $159 million a year. I wanted to figure out what Heinemann was making more recently. So I looked at corporate filings, and I was able to come up with an estimate of the total the company earned in the decade before the pandemic hit. What those records show is that Heinemann made at least $1.6 billion
Starting point is 00:13:23 in sales in that tenure period, and it could have been hundreds of millions of dollars more. So, that's how much the company has been taking in. At least $1.6 billion over a decade. What about the authors we've been looking at? We don't know how much Gabe Supinnell, Arian Fountess and Lucy Cawkins have made from the sales of these products. But we do know that they're best sellers for Heinemann
Starting point is 00:13:47 and we do know that they are wealthy people. And what do we know about their wealth? We know that Gaysu Penel set up an educational foundation around 2007. Tax return showed her foundation gave away at least $9.8 million. A lot of that money went to Ohio State to support reading recovery and her teaching methods. Someone out of Ohio State who I talked to told me Penel drove a Maserati. That's true. I found those records she did by a Maserati. All right, so what about her co-author Irene Fountis? Fountis owns a lot of real estate.
Starting point is 00:14:21 She paid $3.1 million in 2006 for the how she lives in. In record show, she peers to own or co-own at least seven other properties. And what about Lucy Cawkins? So in the last episode, you mentioned Cawkins has an LLC. This is where most of the districts send their money when they hire her or her team to do training. And I got court documents that show the value of that LLC.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Last year, it was worth nearly $23 million. Lucy Cochans and Gaysu Penel and Irene Fountis and their publisher Heinemann have made a lot of money. But what's the evidence behind what they're selling? Do their products work? It works because it's based on reading research. Not on market research, but on reading research. This is Lucy Cawkins in a promotional video produced by Heinemann in 2010. The year her curriculum first came out. It provides kids with the conditions that we now know all readers need.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Above all, the reading workshop provides kids with time to read and read. Read. Read. Read. Read. She says what she's selling is based on research, but there were no studies of her published curriculum when this video was made, not a single one. Studies are expensive and difficult to do, especially the kinds of studies that can actually show you if a program works. You have to identify two large groups of similar kids, have one group do the program, one group not, and compare
Starting point is 00:16:05 the results. Most programs don't get studied like this. But Heinemann did pay for two of these kinds of studies to be done on Fountis and Penels leveled literacy intervention program. Heinemann paid nearly $2 million for these studies. The studies were done by researchers at the University of Memphis. The studies showed that kindergarteners and first and second graders who were in the Fountesson panel leveled literacy intervention program got better at reading leveled books. But the studies also showed that the program had no discernible effects on their ability to sound out words. Another way to say that?
Starting point is 00:16:46 Kids moved up reading levels, but they didn't get better at reading. I tried to get an interview with the lead researcher to ask her about this, but she wouldn't talk to me. Other researchers I discussed these studies with say the studies were well-designed, but they say the studies don't show that the level literacy intervention program works when it comes to teaching kids the foundational skills that are necessary for becoming a good reader. And yet, Fountesson Pennell and Heinemann point to these studies as evidence that their
Starting point is 00:17:23 level literacy intervention program does work. They have links to these studies on their website. They're not trying to bury the results. I emailed Heinemann last month with questions about these studies, but the company declined to answer my questions. We wanted to talk to the people in school districts who were making the decisions to buy Heinemann products.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Had they read the studies on Fountesson Penells' Level Literacy Intervention Program, did they know that there were no studies of the Lucy Cockins curriculum when they bought it? We tried to get interviews with superintendents, chief academic officers, principals, school board members. Many of them ignored our emails. Some refused to talk to us. Others would only talk off the record. But we did get some interviews. One person who agreed to an interview was the former superintendent in Palo Alto, California. The guy who was in charge when the schools there
Starting point is 00:18:22 started using the Lucy Cawkinskins units of study for teaching reading. His name is Max McGee. I asked him if he knew whether Cawkins and her team had any studies that showed their curriculum worked. I can't tell you if they did or didn't. And I can't tell you if necessarily how it's aligned to state standards, but I can tell you it was engaging I mean just you know going into the class of seeing the kids with their own little personal libraries Reading what the teachers had posted on the wall listening to the reading their table reading discussions and the program came from an institution he trusted I have great regard for the teachers college of
Starting point is 00:19:06 Columbia University I went to university in Chicago and we had read plenty of research that came out of Teachers College. So the association with that, I think, is by association that this is not something that has not been vetted in research. Teachers I talked to in Palo Alto thought the same thing. Do you remember ever asking, is there like researcher evidence behind this program? No, we just assumed there was. This is Christa Velasquez, the teacher in Palo Alto you met in the last episode.
Starting point is 00:19:42 We assumed if someone was writing a curriculum and our school district was buying it, I assumed that it was backed by research. We're going to take a break. When we come back, we're going to look at Fountess and Penels' popular system for figuring out a child's reading level. And what research says about how accurate those levels really are. What you watch depends on what kind of majoring. Sometimes you're craving comedies like friends or South Park and sometimes you're more into dramas like HBO's Succession and House of the Dragon. There's also cooking shows like Chopped and Beat Bobby Flay and even movies like The Lord
Starting point is 00:20:22 of the Rings and Shazam, Theory of the Gods. Well, Max is the streaming destination that has the best of entertainment for whatever mood you're in anytime. And plant start at his little is $9.99 a month. Max, the one to watch. Subscription required, visit max.com. Missy Purcell could have been a spokesperson for Lucy Cawkins. At some point in my life, I read or purchased every book that Lucy Cawkins ever wrote.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I used to call them my Bibles. Not just books by Lucy Cawkins, she says books by Fountis and Penel were her Bibles too. Missy started teaching in the Gwinnett County Public Schools in Georgia in 1999. She had learned the balance literacy approach when she was in college. Balance literacy is another name for what caucons and fountains in panel and others have been selling. There's not a precise definition of balance literacy. But what I've learned in my reporting
Starting point is 00:21:28 is that in schools that say they do balance literacy, you're very likely to find Lucy Cawkins and Fountison Penel. And you're almost certain to find those leveled books I've been telling you about. The basic idea with leveled books is that if kids are moving up levels, they're learning how to read. Missy believed in this idea.
Starting point is 00:21:51 She even taught other teachers how to do balance literacy with those leveled books. I'm literally training teachers. Teachers are coming to my classroom. In fact, my second grade teacher was a group that came from another county up in North Georgia. And she walked into my room and I was like, oh my gosh, Miss Calloway! Missy taught elementary school for eight years,
Starting point is 00:22:10 and then she left to raise her three sons. They went off to their local public school, same school district where she'd been a teacher, and when it came to her kids in reading, everything was fine at first. Her two older boys learned pretty easily. And then her third son. Matthew just wasn't picking up on things this quickly. He was really struggling with letters and just anything that had to do
Starting point is 00:22:37 with print. Matthew's school was using Fountis and Penels Benchmark Assessment System to gauge student progress. There are 26 levels in the Fountis and Penels System, one for each letter of the alphabet. Level A books are the easiest. Level Z are the most difficult. That's how you feel like your kid is making progress, right? They give you the letters and you're like, oh, they're making progress. Matthew's school wanted kids to be reading level D books by the end of kindergarten, but Matthew had only made it to a level B.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Missy was worried. That summer, she gathered a bunch of books on his level and had him read every day. But in first grade, he was still behind. So Matthew was put in the Reading Recovery Program. And by the end of the year, the school said he had caught up. He was at a level J, which was right where the school wanted first graders to be. But Missy was skeptical. We weren't seeing any progress at home. What she could see was that Matthew was memorizing the books he was bringing home from school,
Starting point is 00:23:48 but he was lost with a book that he'd never seen before. He didn't know what the words were. By the time Matthew was in the middle of second grade, the Fountesson Penal System was indicating that he had slipped below grade level again. He was back to a level E, five levels lower than he'd been the year before. And Missy was thinking, what is up with these letters? It was starting to seem like some kind of alphabet soup, and she just wanted to know, why can't my child read?
Starting point is 00:24:22 By now, Matthew was getting leveled literacy intervention, the program for struggling readers by Fountess in Penel. And he'd been put into special education too. The school had determined that Matthew has a reading disability, dyslexia. And under federal law, kids with reading disabilities who are behind in school are entitled to get special support and monitoring. Missy had been doing a lot of reading on her own
Starting point is 00:24:49 about dyslexia. She was glad that Matthew had been put in special education. She thought, finally, I'm gonna get some answers about what's going on and how to help him. She remembers going to a meeting at the school. We expected when we got to this meeting that we were gonna be given a lot of information on what he had mastered, like specific decoding skills that we knew he was weak in, and all I get is a fontos of penile letter. That was it. She says that was all the information the school had for her, and she was furious. She didn't trust that level
Starting point is 00:25:25 reading system anymore, and she was thinking, maybe the school doesn't know how to help Matthew. This reading level idea has been around for a long time, back to at least the 1940s, long before Fountesson Penel. It makes intuitive sense. This is Matt Burns. He's a professor at the University of Missouri, whose studies reading assessments. He says there is nothing inherently wrong with the idea of trying to find a child's reading level and putting kids who have similar learning
Starting point is 00:26:05 needs into small groups together. In fact, that's a good idea. The problem, he says, is with the books themselves and how they are leveled, and whether a leveled reading system can really assess a child's reading ability. Let me start with the books. One of the trickiest things about leveled reading has always been how do you determine what level a book is. This is where found to some panel come in. Back in the 1990s they came up with a system for leveling books. Their leveling system takes into account things like themes and content and illustrations, but not how difficult it is to sound out the words. The books at the lowest levels in Fountess and Penel's system are written to encourage children to use the pictures and the context
Starting point is 00:27:00 to get the words, not sound them out. In their level A books, for example, there are words like climb and dance. Those are not easy words to decode. Beginning readers can guess those words by looking at the pictures, but many of them can't actually read those words. And then there's those letter levels. Missy's son Matthew had made it to a level J in the Fountess and Penal System, and then he went back to a level E. What's up with that? Well, unfortunately, that's predictable. This is Matt Burns again, the professor at the University of Missouri. I give the kid the test one day, each of G, the next day it's an I, next day it's a G the next day it's an I next day it's an E next day it's an F. He says there's not enough of a difference between a level E book and a level G book for that to be a
Starting point is 00:27:50 reliable way to determine a child's reading ability. And a child's ability to read a particular book has a lot to do with their background knowledge. Take for example a struggling reader who loves baseball. Maybe her dad reads her a lot of books about baseball, so she's seen certain words a lot, words like ball and bat, and maybe even field and diamond. Give her a level C book about baseball. She recognizes most of the words, and she understands what the story is about, no problem. But give her a level C book about something else, like farming, and she's lost. That's why leveled books are not a good way on their own to determine a child's reading ability.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And Matt Burns says there's a problem with the Fountess and Penel benchmark assessment system in particular. The problem is that it's being used to try to identify the children who are struggling with reading and need extra help. Because Fountess and Penel say that their system can be used this way. Matt noticed that claim when he was flipping through the manual for their benchmark assessment system. It says that this measure that benchmark assessment system can be used for universal screening. So that means it can be used to identify kids who are struggling to learn how to read or to have experience and difficulties with reading. He was surprised because a new of no research that shows leveled reading systems can be used in this way. And he
Starting point is 00:29:25 didn't see any research in Fountesson Penel's Manual to back up their statement. So he and some colleagues decided to see if it was true. And we did a study with almost a thousand kids in Minnesota. They gave the kids three different tests, the benchmark assessment system, and two other tests that studies had already shown do reliably identify kids who are struggling with reading. The researchers wanted to know, did the benchmark assessment system accurately measure children's reading ability?
Starting point is 00:29:56 And more importantly, did it identify the kids who are struggling and needed extra help? Okay, so we found that the fontos and penel benchmark assessment system had about 54% diagnostic accuracy. It identified children as good readers and struggling readers about as accurately as if you were to flip a coin. And in fact, the results were even more alarming because the benchmark assessment system,
Starting point is 00:30:24 according to Burns Study, was particularly bad at identifying the kids who were struggling. The study showed that in a school where 100 children needed reading intervention, the benchmark assessment system would identify only 31 of those kids. 69 children who needed help would fly under the radar.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Flipping a coin would actually be better. In other words, a school has a better chance of finding the children who need help if they just flip a coin rather than spending thousands of dollars on benchmark assessment kits and spending the time that it takes to do the assessment. It takes about 20 to 30 minutes for a teacher to do a benchmark assessment on one child. That's 20 to 30 minutes for each student in a class. Matt Burns says there are a number of other good assessments that can tell a teacher if a student is struggling, and the assessments take only a few minutes, and they don't cost anything, they are free.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Matt Burns and his colleagues published their research in a series of papers in peer-reviewed academic journals in 2015. We had really hoped that would cause schools to stop in pause and take a look and think this is really an effective approach. And then he realized how naive that was. He went to a conference and walked into the exhibition hall where vendors display their products. And I look across this huge room at this large reading conference and you see this huge banner that says 5th to 7th L
Starting point is 00:32:02 and you walk over and they've got these wonderful displays and these incredible anecdotes of all these kids being helped and these teachers saying this is great. What he realized is that a researcher with peer-reviewed papers is no match for an influential publishing company with a marketing budget. Matt Burns says he doesn't know of a school in the United States that does not use some kind of leveled reading assessment system, and he says in his experience, the most popular one by far is Founders and Penels benchmark assessment. Survey show that about a quarter of elementary schools use it. But the Matt Burns study that I just told you about
Starting point is 00:32:47 is the only independent peer-reviewed research that he's aware of on Fountess and Penales Benchmark Assessment System. That's it, one study. Fountess and Penale have their own study to support their Benchmark Assessment System. It's on their website. But the only way that they evaluated whether their system accurately identified a beginning readers level was to compare their
Starting point is 00:33:13 system to the leveling system that Marie Clay used for reading recovery. What they found is that their system was consistent with Marie Clay's system, which isn't really a surprise. Found to some panel built their leveling system based on Clay's queuing theory. I don't know why Found to some panel didn't compare their system to something else. As you know, I haven't been able to talk to them. What I think, based on the reporting I've done, is that they believed that if their system was as good as Mari Clay's,
Starting point is 00:33:51 their system was as good as it could be. Mari was the goddess, you know, and I followed it faithfully. I loved it, yeah. This is Sandra Iverson, the reading recovery teacher from New Zealand you met in episode two. She's not a Marie Clay follower anymore, and it's because Sandra ended up doing her own research on reading recovery, research that compared reading recovery to something else. It was the early 1990s. Sandra had come to the United States to train reading recovery teachers in Rhode Island.
Starting point is 00:34:31 She was still a big believer in clay and her program. Because all this confidence that reading recovery and the pure form was perfect. I think it convinced. But Sandra was working on a master's degree at the time, and her thesis advisor thought that maybe reading recovery could be more effective. There were already a number of studies on reading recovery by Gaysu Penel and others. Those studies showed that kids who got reading recovery did better than kids who didn't get reading recovery did better than kids who didn't get reading recovery. But what if reading recovery included explicit instruction in how to sound outwritten words?
Starting point is 00:35:11 Would kids do even better? That's what Sandra Iverson's thesis advisor wanted her to test. I didn't for one minute think it might have sounded a bit different, you know. But she did the study. One group of kids got reading recovery in its original form. And another group got reading recovery but with an added element.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Explicit instruction in how to sound out words. And the students who got the explicit instruction needed far fewer lessons to be successful. And that to me was significant because it meant that you could recover more children and that then you would have otherwise. Sandra says when the study was published, many reading recovery supporters were not happy with her. And ever since then it's been like a big black mark, a big bit cross against my name. Because you're not supposed to do things like that,
Starting point is 00:36:06 you're not supposed to fiddle with the program. Mary always said, you know, you can't sway from the program because once you do it or you know, it'll just decay sort of thing more and more and more. We found a document from the 1980s in an archive at Ohio State that said one of the responsibilities of someone like Sandra
Starting point is 00:36:25 who trained reading recovery teachers was to quote, maintain model purity. Sandra had violated that. She says once she was cast out, she started questioning other things about reading recovery. Like Mari Clay's claim that kids who were successful in reading recovery would never need reading help again. This is like an immunization. This is Marie Clay. You heard this in episode two. It's something you bring in early. Or another way I look at it as I call it, it's like an insurance policy. But what Sandra Iverson began to notice is that kids could be successful in reading recovery
Starting point is 00:37:10 without really learning how to read. They could look like they were reading those leveled books by using the strategies they'd been taught. But as the books got harder, as the words got longer, as the pictures went away, some of those kids fell apart because they didn't know how to actually read the words. Those students who come in out of reading recovery, many of them just do not make progress in the classroom. They are the stand still or they move back. That was her observation. Other former reading recovery teachers I interviewed told me the same thing.
Starting point is 00:37:52 That many kids who were successful in reading recovery in first grade were not doing that well a few years later. There were some studies that indicated this too. Reading recovery supporters disputed these studies. They pointed to their own studies. And it was kind of a battle of the studies. And then there was a really big study of reading recovery, thousands of kids. The initial results of this study were published a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Hello, and welcome to this week's research minutes, presented by the Ze the Supreme Knowledge Hub. The researchers who did the study discussed the results on a podcast about education research back in 2018. We found significant positive effects of reading recovery on students reading achievement. Kids in reading recovery were doing better than the other kids at the end of first grade, right after they'd finished the Reading Recovery Program. The study was good news for Reading Recovery. The Reading Recovery Council of North America posted the study on its website, celebrated the results.
Starting point is 00:38:55 This was one of the largest studies ever of an education intervention program. It was part of a big scale-up of reading recovery, and it was paid for with a grant that Ohio State got from the federal government in 2010. Amazing, I know, given that the federal government had just spent billions of dollars on the reading first program, and one of the goals of reading first was to get rid of the queuing system. But there was a new administration in Washington by 2010 and a huge recession. And this federal grant to expand reading recovery
Starting point is 00:39:31 was part of the economic stimulus package. It was $45 million from the federal government and another 10 million from private matching funds. The private funders were not disclosed, but through a public records request, we were able to learn that one of those private funders was Gaisu Penel. Her education foundation provided nearly a million dollars for the reading recovery expansion and the study. And like I said, the study was good news for reading recovery. At first.
Starting point is 00:40:08 But the study didn't end with first grade. The researchers got another federal grant to collect more data. To see how the kids who were successful in reading recovery in first grade were doing a few years later. And earlier this year, they released the results. When we look at the results, this is Henry May, the lead researcher. He's a professor at the University of Delaware. The kids who received reading recovery actually had test scores that were below the third and fourth grade test scores of kids that did not receive reading recovery.
Starting point is 00:40:41 To be clear here, this study was not comparing kids who got reading recovery to all the kids in a school. It was just comparing the kids who got reading recovery to a group of kids who were also struggling with reading in first grade and did not get reading recovery. And the kids who got reading recovery were doing worse on average by third and fourth grade.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Was Henry May surprised? Yeah, very much so. When you see kids in reading recovery, you see that they're learning to read these books and it looks to be pretty miraculous. So to see a negative result and have it show up as statistically significant, that the kids that receive reading recovery are actually earning test scores on the state tests in third and fourth grade that are below where they would have been expected to score have they not gotten reading recovery.
Starting point is 00:41:35 That's very surprising. The study could not answer the question why. That's one of the frustrating things about studies like this. They can tell you if an intervention worked or not, but not why it succeeded or failed. It's possible that reading recovery worked great in first grade. Maybe the students in the program weren't just memorizing words and using the pictures. Maybe they were really learning how to read. And that wasn't enough for most of them. Struggling readers tend to need a lot of instruction and support. We know that from lots of research.
Starting point is 00:42:13 So maybe the fault was not with reading recovery, but with a lack of follow-up after reading recovery. But interestingly, what the study found is that kids who had been in the Reading Recovery Program in First Grade got more reading intervention in Second, Third, and Fourth grades, more than the other struggling readers. And the intervention that they were most likely to get, according to the study, was the Level Literacy Intervention Program by Fountison Penel. Here's what's happening to many children in this country. They go to a balanced literacy school that uses Fountison Penel and Lucy Cockins.
Starting point is 00:42:59 They're taught the queuing strategies. Their reading ability is measured using leveled books. If they're struggling and someone notices, they might get reading recovery in first grade, where they get queuing and leveled books. And if they're still struggling after that, many of them get leveled literacy intervention, more queuing, more leveled books.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Struggling readers keep getting more of the same. leveled books. Struggling readers keep getting more of the same. That's what happened to Matthew, Missy's son, Inguinette County, Georgia. She and her husband ended up hiring a private tutor to help Matthew. She remembers calling the tutor. And she was like, you finally arrived at the place where most of us arrive. She had given up on the idea that the school was gonna teach her son how to read. And she decided she was gonna have to take care
Starting point is 00:43:54 of the problem herself. It's what Corinne Adams did with her son Charlie. It's what Lee Gaul did in New York City with his daughter Zoe. It's what Kenny Alden in California wishes she had done with her son. Missy says the private tutoring helped Matthew, but she felt like the balance literacy instruction he was getting at school was undercutting what he was learning from his tutor. His tutor was teaching him how to decode words. At school,
Starting point is 00:44:26 he was being taught the queuing system. So last year, she and her husband pulled him out of public school, and they put him in a private school for kids with dyslexia. Matthew is in sixth grade now, and Missy says he's doing really well. After just one year at the private school, she says he was almost up to grade level in reading and writing. For Missy, what's especially painful about all this is that she had been a teacher. She advocated for Lucy Cawkins and found a sympanel in her school district.
Starting point is 00:45:03 She taught other teachers how to do balance literacy with the queuing and the leveled books. I think that's what fuels my passion to change it. Knowing that I spent so many years trying to help other people understand, reading or writing workshop and found to Simpanal and got it reading, and I led them down that path and maybe in some way district who have the same concerns she has. They've met with the superintendent and other Gwinnett County school officials. They're pushing for change. And the school system seems to be listening. This year, the district is piloting two new
Starting point is 00:45:57 curriculums. But they're still using Clay's Reading Recovery Program and the Level Literacy Intervention Program from Fountesson Penel. An official from the Gwinnett County Schools told us the district has no current plans to drop either of those programs. I asked Missy how she feels now about Lucy Cawkins and Fountesson Penel and Heineman. She's angry. I want them to be held accountable. They've promoted flawed theories. They're not round in science and they have profited off of it. In my early days of teaching, if someone had handed me you know research that showed me what the science of reading was. Instead of a guided reading book
Starting point is 00:46:41 by Founderson Penel, I would have been a different teacher. Had I known I was doing the wrong thing, I would have fixed it in a heartbeat. In our next and final episode, I talk to the former general manager of Heinemann. I'll tell you how Irene Fountis and Gaysu Penel are reacting to criticism of their work. And what Lucy Cawkins is saying about changes that she's making to her units of study for teaching reading. We've fixed up a few of the places where the science of reading has been, you know, pointing out we were like messed up. That's next time on Soul to Story. Stop. That's next time on Soul to Story. Soul to Story is a podcast from American Public Media. It's reported and produced by me, Emily Hanford, and Christopher Peake. Our editor is Catherine Winter. Digital editors are Andy Cruz
Starting point is 00:47:40 and Dave Mann. We had mixing and sound design from Emily Havik and Chris Jullin, and original music by Chris Jullin. Reporting in production help from Will Callin, Colmarie Rivera and Angela Caputo. Fact checking by Betsy Tanner Levine. Our theme music is by Jim Brunberg and Ben Land's Verk of Wonderly. The final master of this episode was by Alex Simpson.
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