Some More News - Even More News: Alien Enemies Are Apparently Whoever Trump Says They Are

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

Hi. Katy, Cody, and Jonathan kick off the week by looking at Trump's use of the 18th century Alien Enemies Act and his immediate defiance of a federal court that ordered a halt to those deportation flights. They also talk about last week's Democratic cave on the continuing resolution and Gavin Newsom's podcast woes. Produced by Moana Sherrill Edited by Jamie Kelly PATREON: patreon.com/somemorenews MERCH: shop.somemorenews.com

Hi, hello, good morning. Welcome back to a little less news. Our short form Monday podcast. I don't know. I'm trying it out. What do we think? I think we're here and we are newsing and I'm Cody. Hi, Katie.

I'm Katie. Hi. Honestly, working out the kinks still on this intro. I think it's great. Saying a title of the show and then being like, what do you think of the title? Perfect way to start the show every week. That's how every podcast does it every week.

Every week. Every single week, he's like, what do you think? With WTF with Mark Maron? I don't know, should I change it up? I think it's pretty good. A little bit of housekeeping editorial note. We're not posting a YouTube video version of this show this week, but that is just this week.

Our editor's out of town, so it's audio only. But no video this week. But no video. That's cool. That's fine. Plenty of news to talk about. You don't need to look at us. With our voices. I mean, we cute, but not that cute. We always cute.

We always cute. I've got wet hair today, so it's less cute. We do have news, so we're gonna launch right into it. We're wet with news. Ew, Cody. I know. Ew. It's Monday, that's how we start.

It is interesting, Monday morning show. My brain is catching up with my mouth. I'm just running circles around the morning, right? He looks pethy. Yeah, see? Jonathan. Hi. Jonathan agrees we're wet with news.

Yeah. Stop it. Gosh, that's gonna be a new piece of merch, isn't it? WWN, Wet with News. Welcome to Wet with News, our Monday morning show. I can't believe you said it, Katie. Yeah, I'm not gonna say it. This is how you get me.

Gosh, that's so easy. You say something that makes my stomach flip and then all of a sudden it's coming out of my mouth too. So easy, gosh. You know what else is easy? Talking about the news, Jonathan. Okay. Piece of cake.

I would love of cake. I would love some cake. All right. Trump and the Department of Justice have invoked or just said they're going to cite a law from 1798 called the Alien Enemies Act to speed up those mass deportations. I believe, let me, I have the exact number here.

1798. So more than 261 immigrants were expelled to El Salvador on Saturday, who I guess the White House says are all part of the Tren de Aragua gang from Venezuela. That's the claim. Has there been any evidence to support the fact that all of these people are members of this gang? We have not seen it.

Ah, shucking. Ah, shocking. Well, no, I saw a tweet from JD Vance that said they're all murderers and rapists. Okay, well that's a standup guy right there. Yeah, a Vance tweet is if that starts getting accepted in the courts, I think that's curtains, folks. I think that's a Vance tweet. Well, Trump says he can do this because his Article II

powers allow him to deport anyone if it's for a national security reason, right? Because the president has a duty to maintain the national security of the United States. So if he deports someone, it's because they're a national security threat. And thus, he can invoke the Alien Enemies Act, even though it's only supposed to be used in wartime.

When you're at war with the, when you have declared war against the country where you're deporting the people to, none of which has been the case. Pass it, yeah. Well, he's the peacetime president. He's not a war president, he's anti-war. So he's not gonna do a war so he can deport people. He's gonna-

He's not gonna officially declare a war or get any kind of congressional approval before dropping bombs on a place. He's gonna go around it. He's gonna pretend. Not good. Yeah, they're really going from all angles, trying to deport everybody possible from all angles.

And it seems to be mildly effective. Well, so far, I mean, a US district judge shortly after he, you know, ordered these deportations temporarily blocked. Well, an activist judge, a far left activist judge. Well, that's what they're saying. But he temporarily blocked Trump from using the alien enemies act to remove these immigrants But a lot of them were already being the the Trump administration

Argument is they were already over international waters and thus it didn't apply So they've said one this this district judges Ruling is invalid and doesn't really apply to us But also we're not violating it because of this international waters money plane rule. There's so much to discuss here. I mean, this isn't even the only example of a horrific violation of rights

that have happened in the past few days, which we'll get to, but also just the rhetoric around, okay, now we're just going to remove these judges that aren't loyal to Donald Trump anybody that's not going to just roll over and show their bellies is going to be targeted right I mean we don't know exactly how many official members of the Trendy Aragwa gang were deported. We do know that there was a couple who was detained. They entered and they had temporary protected status.

So there's certain situations in this instance where it's unclear what people's legal status is and then of course there was a green card holder, I think from Germany, who was detained by ICE and stripped naked named Fabian Schmidt. I hadn't even heard about him. There was the other woman, I believe she's Lebanese, and a professor and doctor coming back to Brown University, detained in the airport and sent back. This is, this is not, and a note on that couple that we mentioned, like there are so,

there is so much information that we're waiting to, to hear and get more specifics. But from what I understand about that, they crossed the border, they asked for asylum and they had TPS. And when they were rounded up, they were separated from their young children. It's just, they did everything right.

From what I understand at this point, it is just a truly horrific onslaught of different stories that get muddled up because there's so much and it's so vitally important to keep track of this, especially once they're out of the country. What are we doing? Yeah, just kicking everybody out.

It's the fascist playbook. You're calling everybody, everybody illegals. Everybody is the best terrorist if you go against the president. There's no consistent reasoning or method. It's just whatever works at the time. And we're gonna see so many more examples of like, oh, yeah, we just said like this person. They like the claim is they had like sympathetic photos of Hezbollah.

And what does that mean? That's the professor from Brown who was deported to Lebanon. Yeah, I read that earlier. And it's just like you claim whatever and then they're gone. And then what do you do? Right. Like the same thing with these alleged gang members. It's deport first and claim the right to later. Exactly. Because they're not going to there's no follow up actually

that's going to happen because then we're going to be focused on the next group of people we're going to get rid of because they're going to get rid of like the alleged gang members. I can see JD Vance's tweet that says like, well, they were all bad. They all did these crimes. I prove it. Case closed. We like, there's due process and it's not just for American citizens.

That's very clear in the constitution. Every single thing they're doing, like we've talked about for years, it's sort of like softened people's opinions and like primed them to allow these things to happen. Cause if you call people illegals for years and years and years, then you're not gonna ask for evidence

or a trial or any sort, or any sense of due process, because you said they were illegal people, so we just get rid of them. They don't deserve their rights, even though they do have rights in this country, even if they weren't. Before the election, as we were talking about this,

and the whole specter of mass deportations, I've had conversations, I've seen people online having these conversations of like, calm down, we're just gonna get rid of known criminals. You don't want criminals here, do you? Like violent criminals and this whole rhetoric. And I go, we've got, we've had this conversation here. What does that mean?

Why are they called illegals? Define a criminal. What are you defining as criminal? Being here is their crime. They do believe that. They do. It's like you came here, you crossed illegally, that's a crime.

Actually, that's not the way that... I mean, it's a crime the way jaywalking is a crime. You don't get deported for it. This is what I mean. It's not apples and oranges here. Crossing the border is not the same as committing murder. It just isn't. Especially if, you know, in the case of this couple, sought asylum, was given TPS. So yeah,

this is it's it's truly horrifying and a fucking mess. Yeah, and the revoking of I mean, the indiscriminate revoking of green cards and just sort of being like, well, no, you're outta here. I guess technically it's not important because nothing matters, but like, it's interesting this sort of approach that the Trump administration generally has of sort of like going back on any sort of, like just being the least trustworthy person in the world.

So you have all these current cases of like, well, we're gonna take your green card away. But, but like, I did all this stuff to like, earn the right to be here. And like, nah, it doesn't matter. You're gone. They're also now trying to float this idea of selling gold cards for $5 million. So it's like this weird thing was like, okay, so you, you're just gonna take that money and then you can decide anytime to just deport that person, even though they paid this money too. Those aren't the people we wanna kick out though, Cody. It's not, that is true.

Rich criminals are fine. They might be rich criminals, so. That is true. We must acknowledge that maybe they're rich criminals, so it's okay. I do find it like interesting, this sort of juxtaposition constantly, and it's not just with this one issue of just sort of like, oh, yeah Trump's gonna do this and this and this but why would you trust him to do that? Because he's going back on all this other stuff

Demonstrating that he will just go back on this again like in the future as well I mean this gets us into the pardon thing and I'll just say what the pardon thing is. Donald Trump truth socialed this morning that the pardons that sleepy Joe Biden, also crooked Joe Biden, that the pardons that he gave to the January 6th committee are invalid or as Trump said, void, vacant, and of no further force or effect in like his I hereby declare thing.

I hereby declare.. I hereby declare. Because he used auto pen instead of signing them. I guess that means I didn't properly file my taxes if we're not allowed to use auto pen anymore. Right. The point I want to make before we talk about how stupid that is, is that like if Trump is allowed to do all this stuff and he very well may end up being allowed to deport anyone on a national security basis, go after anyone with a criminal record and declare prior

pardons and prior declarations invalid, he better hope he's president forever because if he's not and the Democrats change their entire personality, he could be in a lot of trouble. That's a big if though, Jonathan. We're not really good at playing tit for tat. But like when you get, you know, we've been doing this back and forth for years where the executive takes more and more power for themselves and then they don't like it when the other side's in charge

and get to do the same things. Man, he better hope he's right and wins. This is so fucking preposterous. Yeah, and it's all, I guess to your point, like it doesn't matter what Democrats do because it's always gonna be framed as like, but you do it too. I'm even seeing ignoring this judge to deport these people.

I'm already seeing people be like, oh, Joe Biden did the same thing about student loan debt with Supreme Court and he's got owned. And it's just like, no, he didn't keep doing it. He stopped the thing they told him to stop and he tried to find other ways to do it that wouldn't be stopped by the Supreme Court. He certainly didn't threaten to remove the judge.

It's literally not the same thing. And I just keep seeing these stupidest people in the world just try to be like, owned, I got you. Your argument's invalid. That's not at all the same thing. You don't understand anything. And even if it was, you didn't like that, not because of the student, you didn't really mention,

yeah, you talk about how it's unfair, I paid my student loans, but also, you would say the president doesn't have this authority, he's being a tyrant and all this stuff. But now you think it's okay when it's your they want the most tyrannical person in the world and to frame their enemies as the most tyrannical people in the world. And also they want to just lie. That's not what happens.

You didn't just keep doing it. There is some psychological thing happening and I don't have a clear thesis on it, but I'm observing it. Again, every week we talk about what feels like overwhelming hypocrisy. How can you be saying this and behaving like this and forget the way what you were saying and behaving two years ago?

I don't think they forget, I think they just don't care. Because it was never about any of the things they pretended it was about. I agree. Give me any theory. I will agree with it. But I'm also trying to make some point about the cultiness of our fragmentation as a society here and how impossible it is for some people apparently to have any ounce of self-reflection.

And I don't just say that is true of the right. Present company excluded a lot of present company, listeners excluded. There is some sort of weird- Tim Wells is out there doing it. He's got it. He's got it. What did he do?

But he's just admitting that like they fucked up in a refreshing way, but most people don't, yes. But a lack of self-reflection, of inability, and it's like so much defensiveness and anger, and you're forgetting to rationalize, and just see with your eyes what's actually happening, and admit when you're wrong. Admit when there's a mistake that's been made.

So I do think there's a lot of people gripping on hard, and then there's the fucking die-hards that'll never admit anything. You want to admit he was wrong that one time. That one time, yeah. They're gonna get their gonna get stuff wrong. We will make mistakes and it will be swiftly corrected. Yeah, and if people die, they won't, they won't be dying.

They won't. Speaking of Democrats and Republicans in this whole show, should we talk briefly about? Well, so I was gonna say, we're like, oh, you know, Democrats, they don't like, they don't change, they don't like, you know, they're not reflective or whatever. We got our very own Gavin Newsom out there.

You know what, I just wanna do a little victory lap on this. Turns out Gavin Newsom's podcast with Nazis isn't doing so well for him because the point, you're polarizing the left, you're saying fuck you to them and you're not gaining support on the right because you're seen as fake. You're slimy little man. It looks like a PR move.

It looks like you're setting the stage to try to be president. Yeah, to be fair, everyone's doing that. It's just maybe the way you're going about it is bad and not going to work. That's a fair point. That is, you know what? To be fair, you are fair.

Most folks are doing it. But yeah, I think it's also, obviously we're doing it. Warmbo's doing it. We're all getting in on the 2028 action. Did he say when he started his podcast, he was only going to have people on from the right? Or did he say people I disagree with? Because then he could have someone who's 10 points left of center and like talk with them about stuff he disagrees with.

You don't even need to get, you know, a member of the squad. Yeah. Any Democrat that like is like a little away from him ideologically. Chris Murphy at this point. Chris Murphy. away from him ideologically. Chris Murphy at this point. Chris Murphy. It's interesting because, I mean, yeah, maybe he will eventually, but it's funny,

he's like, I'm gonna have real conversations with real people, really try to bridge that divide, but the first people you've had on, they can only be described as propagandists. Like there are other words actually you could use to describe them. But like their role, they are propagandists. They are, that is their job. Steve Bannon is a propagandist. That is what he does professionally. So is Charlie Kirk. He's paid to be a propagandist. He makes propaganda. That's his job. Why would you have these people on specifically? Like if you're going to have to have these conversations have like, I don't want to say Ted Cruz, but

like a person whose job is not to do that. Obviously Ted Cruz is like a propagandist and that he's like going to lie and like push his ideology and all these sort of things. But Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon, that's what they do. And you're just like having them on to spout their stuff and listen and not along. That's again, slimy, whatever. John Stewart on his podcast recently had, and I'm forgetting this person's name,

but a libertarian on and had a really great conversation, really great conversation of disagreeing at certain points, but saying like, I agree with you actually, it was a reasonable person. I accept that you're getting somebody else's perspective on, but they're not, as you said, a propagandist. This is actually make a conversation that makes a compelling case

to a few different types of audiences, and it's reasonable and it shows you a way forward of how to have these conversations. But the unreasonable people are just gonna continue to be spouting the bullshit. And yeah, anyway, we've now spent more time talking about Gavin Newsom than I intended. Let's talk about the rest of the Democratic Party.

Yeah, let's talk about the rest of the Democratic Party. We talked about it last week and then they immediately cave. So we cut that section saying that we would come in and have a fuller conversation about it. There's not that much to say. I would like to discuss a briefly what happens and lay it out and I have some thoughts. We will win.

So Jonathan, what happened? We will win. What we, what happened? We will win. What we're referencing is the budget resolution, which 10 Democrats in the Senate helped push over the finish line. Chuck Schumer's argument was that allowing the federal government to shut down would be worse, that it would let Musk and Doge and Trump further gut whatever they wanted and decide what funding could go out and what wouldn't and that that wasn't a reasonable thing to do.

So you know, they got Dick Durbin, you got Brian Schatz, John Fetterman, of course, and a few others. And that's that. And you know, we were talking before the show about how we don't really know, it's impossible to really know which of these two bad options would have been worse. But the fact that it went down with zero fight whatsoever with no concessions, given that the Democrats had the leverage

is incredibly disappointing. I'm of two different minds about it. Because first off, yeah, what your base is crying out for is leadership, is backbone, is reassurance that you are trying everything in your power to protect our rights, to protect our Constitution, to protect jobs, to protect cancer, whatever, all of it. saw was again, somebody rolling over and showing their belly immediately. And I also understand the other argument, which is to say it could have been much worse shutting down the government. Well, obviously these people are in no hurry to have it opened. We don't know what they ever would reopen our fund or how many jobs

or how much doge would get done. Right, cause they're not really government, like they don't work for the government either. So like they can just still be in there. You know, and so that's actually a huge risk. And we're obviously looking at a situation where the train has gone off the guard rails and we don't know what they would be willing to do

or how far they would be willing to push it. And the other thing that worries me, I don't mind putting up a big fight and letting it be Republicans mess, like showing people how in disarray they are. However, our messaging, the Democratic Party's messaging is so bad. It is so fucking bad. I don't have trust that they would be able to sell the message or because the other side would just paint it as Democrats making a mess of the situation. I'm not saying that

you lead with fear, but I'm saying our Democratic Party is so sloppy and not on the same page and messaging or even goals at this point that I kind of feel like they would have messed it up, shutting down the government. I'm not happy with either way that this has played out is I guess the point I'm trying to make. Well, because they still have to, yeah, they still have to vote for shit that sucks. And that then they're then that's what they did. And, you know, I'm sure the Republican Party would be like the Dems shut down the government because they hate you. But like you're saying, like if there's an effective mechanism to

talk about, well, it's their fault, actually, they could take this out, they didn't need to do this, they can actually come and try to like, make a deal and compromise like we always fucking have to do. To avoid this, if they think it's bad, they can come to the table. But that's maybe not gonna work. Also, there's, yeah, there's no evidence that it will hurt you come the midterms that people will remember this specific decision if you let the government be shut down. But what will be remembered is that you didn't fight for, you know, the future of democracy

and everything we're talking about. There's a new poll that shows that Democrats in Congress have a record low 21% approval rating and that Democrats disapprove 49% more than they approve 40%. So it's not just us. People are mad. They want you to do something with any power you have because you're gonna have less and less

the more you capitulate. Chuck Schumer had to cancel his book tour or postpone his book tour because people were going to be there protesting. That's cool. When you're defending democracy and you know how important democracy is, it's important to cancel public appearances

so people can't protest you. Yeah, that's how this works. So Dem's in disarray, Dems approval in the toilet, and nobody seems to know like, well, who's in charge? Like, who are we, like, who's leading this party? Because Chuck Schumer is the Senate minority leader and 20%, like 10 votes from the Democrats for this is like that's a lot in the sense of like there's no unity there there's no like sense of like what are we supposed to do

I guess what do whatever and I've seen a lot of people with like I know Bernie is touring the nation talking about oligarchy uh there's like all this speculating always trying to run for president I really don't think he's going to be running for president folks I know that some people are doing tours now because they are like trying to see like should to run for president. I really don't think he's going to be running for president, folks. I know that some people are doing tours now because they are like trying to see like, should I run for president? Bernie's not doing that. I'm sorry.

Like, is this not happening? There was specifically reporting that said he waited a few weeks to see if someone else was gonna do anything and start spreading this message and nobody did, so he started a tour. Right. Nobody did and he's the person that has to do it. There's nobody else saying the right things

except for Bernie Sanders. And it is so unfortunate that we have shit on him for so long that he hasn't been allowed to have his message progress because it is the one that resonates. I still get people who voted for Trump that says I would have voted for Bernie. Yeah, of course they would have.

He's the antidote. He's always been, not him specifically, but that there's an antidote to Trump ism, which is a synonym for fascism. And it's Bernie Sanders politics and approach to politics. So it's good that he's doing that. But I just wanted to point out that in this sort of lack of legal, who's leading the Democratic Party? Well, nobody even the one guy who like knows what he's doing is not even a Democrat anymore, like officially, I've also seen people be like, well, he it's time that he needs to like, appoint a successor. First of all, what a silly thing to say. What are you talking about? This isn't the dynasty. This is one man and is like pretty good politics. And the idea

of like, we need to choose who are we going to follow now? Absurd, get it together, folks. Wait, Bernie needs to appoint a successor? Yeah, it's just discourse is fine. I thought you were talking about Chuck Schumer. No. Also, there's one kind of obvious answer, and I don't know if everyone's on board, but there is like a-

Well, there's a very obvious answer, and that's sort of what I wanted to get to, is aside from various people's issues and foibles with her, there's a recent poll among Democrats and Dem leaning independence. The question was which person best reflects the core values of the Democratic Party? And I will say it is abysmal. There's not a whole lot of confidence in anybody. But AOC obviously is the top person in that poll at, I'm sorry to say, only 10%. You look at it, you're like, OK, 10% for AOC. OK, 9% for Bernie.

OK, I think it was like 9% for Kalma Harris, Bernie at 8%, Hakeem Jeffries at 6%, and that just keeps getting lower and lower and lower. Federman at effectively 0 at, is effectively zero. Oh, effectively zero. Newsom, you got a 2%, great job. So nobody does, but it's very clear that there's a specific type of politics

that people would like to gravitate towards, and Trump is like lying to like hoover people up into. We'll see what she does, but she's gonna be the president no matter what. Again, I've said this before, I'm sorry folks, it's happening. Yeah, it's all very abysmal. There is no clear leadership,

there is no clear organization, even within the party, not just how it's relating to how the voters view them, but within them, Hakeem Jeffries gets asked if he supports Chuck Schumer, and he just says, no comment. Oh my God, did that happen? Over and over, refuses, maybe he says, next question. But the point is, there's just zero unity.

There's zero, I have zero faith in them at this moment. It's the kind of thing that like, we're more and more people are saying, you know, like it's not just us, it's not just like the that more and more people are saying. You know, it's not just us, it's not just like the lefties in the party or whatever. It's like every generation of Democrat is like, what are you doing? This is the bad situation that you had been warning about for years. And here we are. The hope is that they're slowly catching on.

I guess we got to do stuff and be more active and do something, but that is, it's about two months in. I think it's ridiculous that Hakeem Jeffries did the no comment thing, because he clearly doesn't know what the correct answer is for his voters, because he would have done, I believe, the exact same thing. But although this is Mr. Hakeem Jeffries's Mr. I'm trying to figure out what our leverage

is. Chuck Schumer in the Senate had leverage and gave it up because he was scared to use it because he thought the other option would be worse. Would you have used that leverage? That's a good question. I mean, that's the thing about even with Hakeakeem. It's like well, I don't honestly care that much about what you think because I'm finding you to be just as ineffective and terrible at communicating and Dropping the ball. So, you know, alright, let's move on and

Cover something else real quick. Maybe before we have to wrap this up. Remember this is supposed to be the quick show Did you see this Elon Musk retweet of? Rothmus which is I guess a Nazi account so Rothmus Cited at the Alice Smith who wrote Stalin Mao and Hitler didn't murder millions of people their public Sector workers did Elon Musk reposted. Well, he's a stupid man. That's a stupid thing to say, and the idea is that these.

Well, it's Nazi propaganda is what it is. Yes, it is. But the what? The public sector workers who gassed everyone were what? Going rogue? Is that what you're saying? Exactly, this is, to me, I'm like, what is even the point being made here?

That it's individual people's fault that that happened? That they just built the gas chambers themselves, you see, not at the direction of anybody in charge. I just saw somebody respond to this with Hitler's excuse for the Holocaust. I was just issuing orders. What are you talking about, Elon? It was like that scene in the Zone of Interest where Rudolf Hush gets the phone call from Hitler,

who's like, stop killing the Jews and start being nice to them. And he says, no. As a bureaucrat. What do you? It's disgusting. This is emblematic of the terrible state things. So many Nazis on the website just tweeting out these dumb as fuck thoughts that are effectively Nazi propaganda.

JD Vance follows a bunch of literal Nazis. Like this isn't like everybody just like no, no, they're just white supremacists and Nazis. They talk about Nazis all the time. Anything about multiculturalism, they will go into the comments and identify the Jewish people involved. They are all Nazis. It is disgusting. Elon and JD Vance follow all of these people publicly.

They all have burner accounts. They don't need to follow these people publicly. They want to see their tweets all the time. Recently, I don't know if you've seen this sort of like Christ is King crisis among the right. A lot of like the daily wire folks are starting to see more of the Nazi stuff in their replies and in their content and seeing people like Candice Owens and a lot of that group being like Christ is King, but it's very pointedly like, and like we hate Jews is what they're saying.

And it's very, very clear what's going on. And some people on the right slowly being like, oh my gosh, my goodness. And it's like, you need to listen to anybody over the past 10 years. Tucker Carlson also alluding to his opinion that he thinks that maybe things would have been better if Hitler won the war.

He said that on his show, I believe. It is said in the way that anti-Semites say these things, where it's like, well, I didn't say it literally, but he alludes to it and then he stops himself. He literally says like, well, this is gonna get clipped. I shouldn't say it literally, but he alludes to it and then he stops himself. He literally says, like, wow, I just going to get clipped. I shouldn't say that. It is very clear that he and this isn't a new thing. It's not a new phenomenon.

It's something seen a lot in these spaces of just sort of like floating the idea that like maybe actually the war was like necessary. And like Hitler was right, because multiculturalism has destroyed the world. And maybe if it was the other way around Things would be better now that is the that is the underlying claim that they're trying to push now and Elon the next time he's in front of cameras is not going to be asked Do you disavow this statement that you reposted the way any Democrat is asked about? You know what the most radical?

Democrat is asked about, you know, what the most radical pro-Palestinian Protester said do you disavow this comment etc. He's never gonna be asked that no, of course not He wasn't seriously asked about the Hitler salute the salute the Nazi salute that he did I don't see why he would be seriously asked about this But speaking of him bit of fun news to wrap things up Teslas are being recalled again cyber trucks being recalled on account of them being bad cars. And parts fall off in the cold. I'm still delighted by that image we had a couple of years ago of the Cybertruck trying to haul a Christmas tree

and not being able to do it. They're bad cars, folks. Oh yeah. Don't buy them. There's a great video of this. You know that you can find a lot of videos of people just basically like not beating up on the Cybertruck, but like trying to break it compared to other trucks. You see a lot of videos of people trying to prove that it's a bad truck. There's one in particular that they just beat the shit out of the Cybertruck.

It falls apart. They pull everything off it. They can't tow anything. And they basically made it clear, like, if you tow something, if you use this truck for truck reasons, it deteriorates slowly because of how it's made. And like the way it's like all these different pieces sort of glued together. And the quality deteriorates. Whereas most trucks like the F-150, it's one complete steel piece and it doesn't do that. You can get a 15-year-old truck and do something that a Cybertruck cannot do now. And it's just very entertaining to watch.

If you have a Cybertruck and you have a bumper sticker that says you bought it before Elon was bad, no you didn't, he was bad when they released them, that's a silly thing to have in your truck. If you key a Cybertruck, you're now deemed a domestic terrorist by the government, that's silly and alarming, keep an eye on that folks. Yeah, a lot of alarming things to be aware of

if you're out there protesting. But yeah, I'll push back slightly. Well, maybe not on your Cybertruck because we've known he's bad since Cybertruck. I think some people in good faith bought their regular old Teslas before fully understanding this man before he leaned in. Yeah, that's fine.

We probably have some listeners with Teslas. Yeah, you know. We accept you. Yeah, absolutely. Cybertrucks though, no, Tesla. Yeah, you know. We accept you. Yeah, absolutely. Cybertrucks though, no, no, sorry, sorry folks. I think we probably have zero Cybertruck listeners. I don't know, I don't wanna make an assumption, but probably not.

I mean, we're a big umbrella here. We're a big umbrella. I think that if we have a listener that owns a Cybertruck, they get it by now. Jonathan, you have a correction you wanna make? Earlier in the episode, I said that 261 immigrants were expelled to El Salvador under the Alien Enemies Act. Only 137 of those 261 were expelled, citing that act. The other 100 and change were deported for other Trump reasons.

Very small distinction, but I wanted to point that out. It's important and in good faith, we want to accurately report or as accurately as we can. All right, that's it for us today. We gotta get this off of the editor so that you can listen to it this evening, hopefully. Thanks for being here. It's true.

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