Some More News - Even More News: Conservatives Are Getting Scared Of Donald Trump’s Tariffs

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

Hi. On today’s episode of Monday News, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan discuss the ongoing Trump tariffs and Ben Shapiro and his fellow conservatives' confoundingly dumb justifications for them. Also, they are so very scared of the tariffs... and of Trump. They also discuss the Hands-Off protests and how everyone who attended them, even Grandma, is an enemy of the state, according to a CNN pundit. Also, Musk's sex life, because Musk definitely has had sex. PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hi, hello, welcome back to Even More News, Monday edition. No you welcome back. No you. Welcome back to you. Hi to you and welcome back. Hi, I'm Katie Stoll. I'm not, I'm you. Hi to you and welcome back. Hi, I'm Katie Stoll. I'm not, I'm Cody. Hi.

Johnston. Johnston. Ah, yeah. That's your full name, I think. That's what they say. And of course, Jonathan is also here. Hi. Ow. I think we'll actually be the first Tuesday release

in even more news history. Oh, gasping. Okay, let's go through some of this stuff this morning I think will actually be the first Tuesday release in even more news history. Oh Gasping okay, let's go through some of this stuff this morning today markets volatile on news of The continuing tariffs there was a brief like 10 to 20 minutes this morning where it looked like maybe Maybe not and it happened in the stupidest way possible. The director of the National Economic Council, Kevin Hassett, was on Fox and Friends, and he's asked by Brian Kilmeade if the administration would consider a 90-day tariff pause. Will you do a 90-day pause? Would you consider that?

Or a bill? Yeah. You know, I think that the president is going to decide what the president's going to decide. That clip was posted online, and no one really thought much about it because the guy didn't say anything. But then some Twitter guy who goes by Walter Bloomberg, not affiliated with any actual Bloomberg entity, just some Twitter guy. Do you think he changed his name to Bloomberg?

Bloomberg? I mean, he wants people to pay attention to him. So I will be Jonathan Reuters from now on to get people to care. That's actually got a nice little ring to it. Yeah, I know, it sounds nice. Hoity Associated Press. So this Walter Bloomberg fellow tweets, "'Trump is considering a 90-day pause in tariffs

for all countries except China.' And then the market jumped more than 7% on news of that tweet. And then nobody could find what that guy was talking about. And then the White House said, that's fake news. And we realized it's just because of that one appearance on Fox and Friends. And then the market went back down and everyone jumped off the proverbial ledge again. Well, then Trump announces potential 104% tariff on China.

Well, it's like he said, Trump's going to do what he's going to do. So he was right, actually. Yeah. No one knows what Trump's going to do, ever at any point. So he said, because of the Chinese retaliatory tariffs, that he was going to put an additional 50% tariff on China. And then people were like, oh oh 50% of what it is already 54% and then they said no 50% added to the 54% So now it's a hundred and four percent. So now anything from China just costs more than twice as much

That's fun. That's fun for everybody. It's funny in a way. Even that? If you kind of step back and think about it, it's a little funny. It's a little funny. It's a little funny in the way that tragedy equals comedy. Yeah, I mean, in the way tragedy equals comedy? Yeah, I mean, in the- That's the formula.

In the way, yeah, tragedy equals comedy. In the sense that didn't do reciprocal tariffs and they tried to calculate it in a way that was wrong to begin with, but then they did their wrong equation poorly, so they messed it up even worse. And then as Jonathan laid out, you hear 50% more. You're like, oh, to the thing?

No, no, no, the total number 50 is added to it. It's a little funny. Like, this is so absurd. But it doesn't seem, it seems nonsensical to somebody that's very bad at this kind of thing. Yeah, it's really stupid. But also like a terrible disaster, to be clear. I don't wanna be like, oh, what a funny time for everybody.

But it's a farce. Farses can still be bad, right? It shouldn't be this stupid, I think is my point. It's so stupid. and there's no intention and so many even every day there's like five people and they're all surrounding Trump and they all say different things and all different reasons for why the tariffs even exist.

And at some point they're gonna get rid of them. And then once again, we're gonna be like, but I thought they were necessary to like abolish taxes or whatever. It nothing. Nobody knows. Nope, it doesn't make any sense. It's very silly.

Before we started, there's so much to be said. Before we started recording, I was telling the gentleman here that I was listening to the All In podcast yesterday. To try to make sense of this and I couldn't. You know, it was just all the heavy hitters. We've got Calcanis, we've got. Our Crypto Czar.

Was our Crypto Czar on there? Was Sax there? Oh no, our Sax, our Crypto man was not there. But Ben Shapiro, Ben Shapiro was there. And my blood pressure spiked a lot. But the truth is, is that none of these fools have any idea what's happening either. And the amount of like trying to justify,

trying to make sense of, and I learned nothing is basically my point. Except for Ben Shapiro saying, And I learned nothing is basically my point, except for Ben Shapiro saying, he said this, if anybody didn't take him seriously, well, that's your fault, basically. I sold my stocks and I bought bonds before all this started.

And then another point he also says, he's a realist. So if he sees what's happening in the market, he can change course and he will change course. He's taking control of the market. He's gonna like have all the companies give him a call and like he's just gonna be on the phone all day, just negotiating with all these different sectors and companies.

But I mean, good for Ben for being technically correct in an infuriating way, which is like, yeah, you should take him seriously. I haven't watched the whole thing. I've seen a few clips of Ben Shapiro on that podcast. And I think his rant about tariffs on that podcast is very similar to my rant about tariffs from a few days ago. It may be the closest match to anything that we've ever said before. be the closest match to anything that we've ever said before. Yesterday, President Trump declared that it was, in fact, Liberation Day, his giant tariff policy that he just dropped on the market unilaterally, probably unconstitutionally. Trump's reciprocal tariffs impose hundreds of billions of dollars in new taxes on Americans, be the largest tax increase since the Revenue Act of 1968.

One of the biggest tax increases on American consumers in the history of America. And it's going to cost American consumers. It will cost American producers who use inputs from other countries. The Dow Jones Industrial Average plummeted immediately more than a thousand points. The S&P 500 plummeted more than three percent. The Nasdaq plummeted almost four and a half percent. There are real world implications for this sort of stuff. Trade wars are, in fact, not good and not easy to win,

particularly if you don't actually have a plan. It is predicated on a bad idea of how international trade works. A fundamental misunderstanding of trade deficits. Trade deficits are an accounting procedure. Trade deficits have pretty much nothing to do with the health of an economy. I can name you a period in American history where there was a fairly large surplus in America's balance of trade the entire Great Depression some Trump ish folk have Started to you know, they still agree with all his policies. They still think he's got a plan

He's the brilliant king man the Bill Ackman's of the world some hedge fund managers I would say Jamie Dimon, who told everyone to get over it about tariffs, what, six weeks ago, is now saying, well, we're gonna have a recession, folks. A lot of people are gonna be in a real bad way. It seems like we were right again. I'm so tired of that. Yeah, don't you hate it?

And there does appear to be a rift in segments of the right about whether like, he must be stopped or we were stuck in this, we got a grin and bear it, or like Benny Johnson says, money is meaningless, you don't need it. Who cares man, money's fake. Yeah, some of these justifications are so fucking wild.

Chamath's tweet you've got here in our doc. The stock market has simply rung out Biden's last gasp of free money before he lost the election. We are back to where we were a year ago. The Benny Johnson, I'm gonna read it. Losing money means nothing, digital ones and zeros. In the end, you won't miss any of it. Citation needed. Losing our

country costs you everything. You will never get that back. Your kids will be slaves to foreign powers who hate us. Without America First policies, we become slaves. Fight. Just a few short months ago, just the complete opposite messaging. If money's so unimportant to Benny, why did he take it from the rush? Are we allowed to say that? I don't know. Oh, he takes hundreds of thousands of dollars

from the Kremlin. I think it's so fair. Also, in the end, you won't miss any of it? What are you talking about? It's so funny to be like, money's fake, and you shouldn't have any of it. Yeah, just me. The complete opposite of like what you should be taking from.

Like, well, money is actually kind of fake. Also, this idea that if you have a trade deficit with another country or if there's debt, right, the United States has debt, that that means you'll be slaves to a foreign power. the United States has debt, that that means you'll be slaves to a foreign power. There is no scenario where the trade deficit requires that Vietnam invade the United States and kidnap a bunch of Americans and make them work for them. You know what I'm saying? It's always presented as like, this is just a burden on your children and grandchildren.

They're going to be working for China. How exactly? Oh, it's all very silly. Again, I feel like every week there's a new excuse or reasoning that we have to sort of whittle down to like, but here's what tariffs do. And here's what a trade deficit means. It doesn't mean we're at war.

It's like, I know you, I think last week you were like, it's like if I'm at a restaurant, and the waiters like make me also like serve him food or whatever because of this weird relationship that like they're forcing on. It's like, that's just not, it doesn't make sense. And I have to point out, this is Benny Johnson's pinned tweet. He's really proud of this one.

I also wanna highlight Milo's This is Benny Johnson's pinned tweet. He's really proud of this one. I also wanna highlight Milo's, because I think it kinda goes with it. Men are depressed and addicted and broken because they have nothing to do. They get no stimulation or satisfaction from BS email jobs. I'm telling you, white Americans will love working in factories again,

making things in the image and likeness of God the maker. When we're talking about all of this, just all the just ways of carrying water, like actually, it's going to be really good for Americans to be working low paying jobs in our factories. You're going to love it. Not that people should be working in sweatshops anywhere. I'm not saying that, but there are a lot of gymnastics.

We yearn for the mines. Yeah, they've just sort of- But do they? No, they don't. Well, no, that's the thing. Benny Johnson can be like, actually it's good and you should get your hands dirty and lose all your money.

But Benny, you're not gonna do that. You don't wanna do that. It's like, who are you talking to? You're just, it's that, it's such a, obviously there's so many contradictions all the time, but don't they hate elitists telling the working people what to do and telling them, well, you're gonna suffer Like, don't they hate elitists telling the working people what to do and telling them, well, you're gonna suffer and you're gonna like it and you're gonna do these jobs?

Not me, I'm gonna keep my email job that also none of us respect. From all sides, they're just fashioning to each other's thoughts. It's scrambling for anything. Scott Bessent, the Treasury Secretary, was on TV Either yesterday or this morning talking about how well we just fired a bunch of federal employees there's your workforce for the factories that I assume have been built and have things to build and

Screw in and then Howard Lutnick the Commerce Secretary was on TV yesterday Saying these are the jobs screwing little screws into iPhones that are going to come to America. And then the quote, what he actually said was worse than the tweet because the quote said these are going to be automated jobs. All the factories, all that stuff, it's going to be automated here in America. Okay, so that's cheap goods, but everyone's unemployed and no one has the money to get it. Is that what you're saying?

Yeah. Like, it's just gibberish. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Like it's just gibberish. It's just gonna be scrambling. It's the whole hyper normalization thing. Everyone knows this can't continue forever and we'll just keep saying that forever. Yeah, spouting as much as they can. It'll stick, some things will stick with some people

and they'll just keep scrambling and doing this. It's so, and you're just watching. You're like, well, they're gonna, they're doing it. Should we talk about Donald Trump? The president? Golfing and his message of encouragement. There's the one where he talks about how only weak and stupid people don't like what's going on.

The United States has a chance to do something that should have been done decades ago. Don't be weak, don't be stupid, don't like what's going on. The United States has a chance to do something that should have been done decades ago. Don't be weak, don't be stupid, don't be a panicant, a new party based on weak and stupid people. Be strong, courageous, and patient, and greatness will be the result. So yeah, they got nothing.

Yeah, I wanna actually move on to something that is, I mean, it's terrible for so many reasons, but one is, the whole tariff thing kind of bumped me out a little bit for all the reasons we've talked about and all the reasons, but this is the one thing that seems to fire people up a lot. This is the thing that's making people sort of break from Trump for a lot of reasons, and that's good.

We want him, I guess, to do stupid bad things. But you feel disappointed too? Well, I feel like there are other things. I wish people were more upset about like this rounding up of people who aren't criminals and deporting them and sending them to prisons in other countries. Absolutely. And all this sort of stuff doesn't seem to be breaking through as much and doesn't seem to bother people as much.

Well, I think it genuinely isn't breaking through as much because in conversations or people being detained over social media posts, the disappearing of people, all of this, and it is truly not breaking through to some. Yeah, there's this, and it is truly not breaking through to some. Yeah, there's this 60 Minutes looked into this, because we keep seeing like, oh, this person actually wasn't undocumented.

Oh, this person actually wasn't in a gang. Oh, this person, despite JD's lie, wasn't convicted of being in a gang. All these little stories, 60 Minutes looked into this, lie wasn't convicted of being in a gang. All these little stories, 60 Minutes looked into this and they could not find criminal records for 75% of the 238 men that Trump so far has sent to El Salvador. Of the 22% that do have records,

the vast majority are nonviolent offenders. So aside from people slipping through the cracks who shouldn't have even been considered for deportation, they're not deporting criminals, convicted criminals, violent criminals by and large, and they're seemingly fine with it. And when they do make a mistake, they say they can't do anything about it. And when the judge is like, you should bring that person back, they're like, well, this is an activist judge and you're undermining the presidency and all this

stuff. It's like, no, actually, the president's job is to execute on the law. And so if the law is being interpreted by a judge as this, then your job is actually to call them. Was it either JD Vance or some goon said, well, oh, I think it was Bondi probably. One of these freaks was like, well, if the judge wants the person to come back, maybe they should call the president of El Salvador.

That's not their job. That was the press secretary. Was the press secretary, one of the idiots, the press secretary. The judge's job is to interpret the law and tell you that this is what needs to happen. If you're telling the judge to call the president of El Salvador,

no, no, no, no, no, Trump loves being on the phone. It's his job to do that. Can you imagine the president of El Salvador. No, no, no, no, no. Trump loves being on the phone. It's his job to do that. Can you imagine the president of El Salvador just taking some random American judges phone call? What? It's absurd on its face, but also it's like that's infuriating. That's, you're lying.

You're doing the lie thing again. You're just doing more lies about how like, well, this isn't how it works. No, it is how it works. Stop lying so much. It's so infuriating. I think it doesn't break through as well, because there's still this initial reaction of like,

well, he's deporting criminals. You don't want to deport criminals? It hasn't broken through yet that these people are not criminals. And even though they're immigrants, he just said on the plane, the idea of deporting US citizens to this El Salvador prison.

We could take some of our 20 time wise guys and push people into subways and that hit people over the back of the head and that purposely run people over in cars. And then he's like, I don't know what the law says on that. I'm all for it. Look it up man

It's got like this the stock market is such a big deal and we see That it's gonna raise prices and cost people jobs that breaks through very quickly. It's so immediate. It's all over the material it's yeah, but once and I'm I'm sorry that You know Ramesa Oz Turk and Mahmoud Khalil, and Kilmar Abrego Garcia are not enough to break through to people. But once it's US citizens being shipped there, it's going to get very real to people and hopefully it's not too late. I do think so.

Yeah. I do think so. I mean, my God, it's just so terrifying. I've got friends that have been here legally for a long time and, you know, terrified to go see their parents. Legally here. They're like, I don't, there's no guarantee if I leave this country, I'm gonna be back in. What kind of a country is that?

How is that American? And I do believe that if more people understood that, that it would start to chip away. And I think you're right, Jonathan, it might actually take US citizens being- It might, it probably will. It's just even, even stuff like this, because this isn't the first time he's alluded to this. Like, oh yeah, we should send American citizens to these foreign prisons too. And like even that should be a chilling thing to hear. And him say, yeah, I love that.

I don't know the law, but that'd be great. Cause he's saying, yeah, these people, he's just saying random people who do crimes that he deems to be in the category of deportable. Like paid protester perhaps. What are some others potential crimes that he might think deserve? Keying a car.

Yeah, yeah, keying a specific kind of car. A specific kind of car would be ideal, yeah. Being just generally un-American by criticizing his administration. Yeah, being an activist judge, there are all kinds of labels that can be applied to anybody. And that is sort of the thing

that I hope breaks through to more people, which is this idea that like, there's no satiating fascism as it grows and takes hold. They're not going to be done with people. They're not going to run out of categories of people. Ultimately, they can decide who's a criminal and who's not. It's they're the arbiters of the law and the truth now. And they've made it clear they don't really care for either of them. So it's up to them and they can call you a criminal. And if you're an American being an American can be a criminal in their eyes. They can label you, however. Nobody is like safe from these mechanisms that are being developed and encouraged

and utilized right now. And to be clear, if it's this market stuff, if it's the tariff stuff that like gets people so freaked out, my retirement fund and everything, that it has a ground swell of resistance, I will take it, right? I won't, there's don't like, I don't want to scold people being like, oh, well you didn't like, Ben Shapiro, I'll scold. I'm mad for the right reasons, yeah.

Pundits, I will scold for that, but like, individuals who are like, I didn't know that it would be doing this to my money, like, cool. Welcome, welcome to the resistance all that stuff We're on board the end the anti-tariff resistance. They're like, you know, whatever It's a I don't understand it because this isn't how I'm operate through the world move through the world and my life But I do understand in theory. There's a lot of information There's a lot of to the average person that's just trying to get by and do their best. They might not know and they might not know who to believe. I don't know. You're telling me

that this is a bad idea. This person's telling me that it is a good idea. I don't know. And so they make their choice. There are people that live in that camp and this is breaking through to them and they don't trust the media and all of this shit. But it's going to be harder and harder and harder to ignore. I would say trust us, the people who've been right about everything. But I know I'm biased by saying we're the ones who've been right about everything. Speaking of paid protesters, I think it's important we talk about how many people got that paycheck this week, baby. The economy is booming, folks.

Thank you, Georgie. And to sort of bridge this gap, I like, here's an example of a tweet I'd like to say. It's from Scott Jennings, a dope of a liar on CNN, breaking, thousands of terror supporters have taken over Washington, DC, calling for a quote, global intifada. These people have no business being in America. That's the original tweet.

Scott Jennings, a dope on CNN, quote tweeted that and said, the enemies of Western civilization today in our nation's capital. They can call you whatever they want. They will call you enemies of the state who are calling for a global intifada and have no business being in America and some dope pundit on CNN who keeps getting paid

is gonna be like, yes, accurate, and they're destroying Western civilization. That's wild. Wild spin. That's what they're allowed to do, and it's so fucked up. In reality, these protests, really quite amazing, and at least the one I was at, quite peaceful and joyous, In reality, these protests, really quite amazing.

And at least the one I was at, quite peaceful and joyous, all things considered, and not what they just described. I didn't see a single sign calling for a global intifada. Well, that's what the tweet said, so. A global frittata. Oh, that sounds nice. That'll bring everybody together. A global frittata. Oh, that sounds nice. That'll bring everybody together. A global frittata with a bunch of different.

Yeah, I attended one here even in the mountains in Sonora, California. I don't live in Sonora, don't come looking for me there, but I did attend the one in Sonora, California. And Sonora maybe has 4,000 people. And I don't know, someone said there was 1,000 people there. I don't think so, but a significant amount of people. It felt really beautiful to me.

The amount of support, the amount of people driving by big rigged trucks were driving by laying on their horns. And it felt very galvanizing. Very weird though to leave that environment. There's the Facebook groups around here, a big source of information, so I use it again just for that. And it was really inspiring at first

and then demoralizing to read the comments about it. What are they protesting? Yeah, they're terrorists. I don't understand, well no, just genuine confusion. Oh. And then some conversations with people that I was like, I was at the protest and they're like, what were you protesting?

But why? And I went, oh, pick your thing. I think that is an interesting part of this protest. Super, super thrilled to see how many people showed up. But also there wasn't one thing. It's like, there's a laundry list. It became a catch-all protest for all sorts of issues. So that was an interesting element of it.

It was hard for me to describe just one thing or another when people asked me that. Because everyone's so upset, rightfully so, there are many reasons to be upset. It is interesting seeing people try to not hijack the protest, but be like, ah, yes, this upswell of anti-tariff sentiment, this anti-tariff resistance. And it's like, yeah, people are mad at the tariffs,

but that's not. Like, just trying to take their pet issue and turn it like, look, this is the issue. We need to like unite around. And it's, you know, your mileage may vary on that, I guess. It felt, and I know there's numbers to back this up that have come out this week that the poll numbers are beginning to resemble the resistance poll numbers of January 2017.

But there was a huge, the big hands-off protest was in downtown LA. But I was driving through West LA and I saw a little pocket of one. A lot of very pleasant, happy seniors. There is a lot of seniors out. Hands off. Yes, they were feeling, and so I feel, I felt heartened that this is not a, and I don't even wanna say this because like-

Now we've lost Gen Z to the Trumps. No, no, no, I don't think that's the case, but. They also like quite a bit. And I also don't wanna say like, we need the normies to be in on this before there can be a resistance, but it's good to have them. Oh yeah. Absolutely.

And you know, people are honking and it felt like, okay, we're like, we're so back in resistance land. Like maybe Robert Mueller and the rule of law can be like, we can bring all that back. Finally Mueller time. Okay, we're gonna wrap things up, but Cody has told us that he has three things he wants to rapid fire.

We're gonna see how rapid fire they rapid fire though. There's so many things that happen and I don't want to do a disservice to these stories. The first transgender woman to get arrested for being in a men's bath or a women's bathroom in Florida happened. So we will be following up on that because that's something again we've talked about a lot and it seems like it was going to be a problem and guess what it happened and it was a problem. So we'll keep an eye on that and hopefully update.

Seems like maybe it's a bad law that will continue to have bad implications and situations. The White House is still doing their little oo-oo fascism bullshit, posting their little studio Ghibli things with this quote from JD Vance. We do not ask permission from far left Democrats before we deport illegal immigrants. Well, they weren't illegal immigrants, they didn't do crime, they wasn't a convicted gang member and they're a judge,

so you should listen to them, I guess is my point. Also- That little video of the deportation. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, yeah, I know, it's really disgusting. Yeah, I know, it's really disgusting. Yeah, you guys, we've mentioned it, don't look at it. It is so fucking gross. In the midst of all of this going on,

in the midst of us all knowing that they've been deporting people unlawfully for bullshit reasons and refusing to take the back, you're gonna fucking put that shit out? They're still doing, yeah, they're doing it more and it's like every day now. Gruesome, it's gruesome. Obviously they want attention, they want engagement

and they know what they're doing and they're like poking at everybody but it's still really gross. So fuck them in their faces. And one last- Number three. Number three, number three is, so over the weekend Bill Burr was interviewed, and he made some little funny comments,

and one of them was about how the Doge guys and Elon Musk can't get laid. And so on the news, on Fox News, the news program, The Five, Jesse Waters took time out of his day to talk about how actually I looked into it, and Elon Musk does have sex with women and the Doge guys are they're actually like they get it. He said Musk and his Doge boys were nerds who couldn't get girls when they were young.

Now I went and did a deep dive on the girls they were getting. Of course. Musk's girlfriend in college was very pretty. Very pretty. And she was thin and she had a nice face and she was very pretty. And then he had another girlfriend and they ended up getting married together and having like four children.

So he had never had a problem with getting girls. What a good use of time. And thank God they have such a good sense of humor. Think iComedy is back, baby, and they understand jokes. Also, I thought men needed to work with their hands and men become addicted to stuff. I thought the whole problem that they were lashing out about is because they aren't getting laid

and no one will talk to them. Isn't that the whole thing? What is it? Now they're like, no, that's actually not happening at all. We have sex. We have sex. So that was two baddies and a funny, is I guess what those three.

Another good title for a potential show. Thank you guys. Hang in there till we are back again in a few days with even more news. Some more news and then some even more news. Also, we fucking love you so very much. I'm not saying that on this episode or this version of the podcast.

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