Some More News - EVEN MORE NEWS: Democrats Must Keep Talking About Illegal Deportations

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

Hi. On today's episode, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan discuss the Trump administration's ongoing, lawless kidnappings, Kilmar Abrego Garcia and other disappeared individuals, and why Democrats should not avoid this issue. They also talk about Elon Musk's weird "legion" compound and RFK Jr's offensive comments about people with autism. Get the world's news at https://ground.news/SMN to compare coverage and see through biased coverage. Subscribe for 40% off unlimited access through our link.NOTE: This was recorded a few hours before photos were released of Sen. Chris Van Hollen meeting with Kilmar Abrego Garcia in El Salvador. PATREON: https://patreon.com/somemorenewsMERCH: https://shop.somemorenews.comYOUTUBE MEMBERSHIP: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng/join#evenmorenews #kilmergarcia #donaldtrump Get 20% off plus a FREE rechargeable frother and glass beaker with our exclusive link:https://Piquelife.com/No matter how you say it, don’t overpay for it. Shop data plans at https://mintmobile.com/morenewsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Why hello there welcome back to even more news the first and only news podcast. My name is Katie Rae Stoll. Okay T Ray stole. Stoll, hi. Why hello? Why? Because it's polite to say hello. Hi, I'm Cody, how's it going? Your parents raised you right, Cody.

Exactly. And of course, Jonathan is also here. Jonathan Rae here is here. Mm-hmm. Don't believe him, that's not his middle name. No, people are guessing. One person guessed right, which I don't like. Oh no.

Yeah. Guys, stop guessing. Stop doing it. He said he didn't want you to know, so stop guessing. My dad called me Katie Ray as a kid. That's why I switched it up. Yeah, and I just called myself Jonathan Ray right now, which may stick. Jonathan Ray here. Jonathan Ray Romano. Jonathan Hiras. Yeah, and I just called myself Jonathan Ray right now, which may stick.

Jonathan Ray here. Jonathan Ray Romano. Jonathan here is. Yeah, Jonathan Ray Romano. Okay, what do we have today? We've got some holidays, we sure do. Oh boy, look at these, this is weird. Jonathan, you picked some weird ones.

He hasn't picked them, it's just what the day is. Well, he chooses which ones to use. Because there's always like 20. I love Jonathan's picking abilities. You act like that I came up with the bit and that the bit could be to choose real stuff. That's not the bit. No, and I came up with the bit.

I came up with the bit years ago. Yeah, you came up with the bit. I came up with the bit years ago. Yeah, you came up with the bit way pre-me. True. Made Jonathon choose these holidays. Well, anyway, Jonathon picked. For his idea of a segment. April 18th is National Lineman Appreciation Day. Jonathon, what are you doing to us?

Come on. But not Linemen who are very well paid. I was like Linemen, what could... Association day Jonathan. What are you doing to us? Come on I was like lineman what could it's not about the football lineman. No. No, it's about the power line lineman Oh Which you know what sure yeah, I appreciate your work I mean, I don't necessarily appreciate the companies you work for but you are out there doing hard work Yeah, hard work. In the middle of storms, they know.

I also thought it was like, lion. I did too. So I was like, what the fuck is this holiday? No, this makes more sense. Everyone should have recognition. Oh, and this is actually a holiday acknowledged through a congressional bill passed in 2013, recognizing the contributions of lion men and line women.

Super woke, they wouldn't have recognized line women today. They're all fired. Well, I think we've covered it all, folks. I think we would actually. We love you very much, bye. No, we are, we promise. Jonathan, you're up. Oh boy, God.

What's going on? I know what's going on. So much. We're gonna. Honestly, just so overwhelming before we. Is it normal in jail? Yeah. No, it's tough, it's panic inducing. If it's not one thing, it's another in the same vein. But let's start with the prospect of the Trump administration being held in criminal contempt for ignoring court orders, which they're just doing regularly now. Remember, like, a month ago, we're like,

now if they start ignoring court orders, that's when this really escalates. And they're just like, well, we're doing it, but we're not. And last week. Yeah. But Judge Boesberg, who's the judge in the You Can't Send People to El Salvador

without due process flight guy and halted them and then they sent them on the planes anyway, that case, he said there is probable cause to find the government in criminal contempt in the fact that it ignored that order. And Boesberg's decision was ultimately overturned by the Supreme Court, but the fact remains that they did nothing while that order was in effect. And we've got a recording of Trump in the Oval Office today reacting to that, asked, if a court holds you in contempt, will you take steps to bring Kilmar Abrego Garcia back to the US? Would you like to see his response? Well, I'm not involved in it.

I'm going to respond by saying you'll have to speak to the lawyers, the DOJ. I've heard many things about him. And we'll have to find out what the truth is. Yes, we will have to find out what the truth is. It's too bad the most powerful president ever, most powerful person in the world ever. Can't, I don't really know.

I don't have anything to do with this. He's not involved. Yeah, what a bummer. It's not really my thing, man. He's such a good deal maker that this must just be too hard of a deal to strike, you know? I mean, he's not involved in it.

Like, if he's not involved, it's not involved, what are you, you know, what is he supposed to say? Is he gonna make, is he gonna make something up? It's gonna, like, no, he's not involved. So like, I'm just a humble president of a nation. What would it mean for the government to be held in contempt?

I don't know what that would even look like. Depends on the president at the time. It certainly wouldn't be Donald Trump being held in contempt. Well, it certainly wouldn't be Donald Trump being held in contempt. Well, usually if you say we're going to prosecute the person who disobeyed the order, but it would be the Department of Justice doing that and they're not going to do that. So the other thing would be a fine or throwing someone in jail until the order is complied with, but it's still not entirely clear who would be thrown in jail until the order is complied with,

but it's still not entirely clear who would be thrown in jail. The lawyer who's like, please, I don't know, they don't tell me anything, you can't throw Trump in jail. Stephen Miller, okay, I'm fine with that. But yeah, this is... It's not gonna happen.

This is clearly an attempt by the judge to be like, hey, we're gonna try to have some rules here. Law and order. The alternative is to not do anything about it, right? This is the first step in broaching this conversation, I suppose. It's not even happening yet, but it's just saying there's probable cause for it. Yeah, I just don't know how this possibly plays out. And it's interesting because the potential for contempt is not specifically about Kilmar Obrego Garcia,

but of course the question becomes, hey, if this happens, will you do the thing that you were ordered to do, nine to nothing? Again, with the quibbles about facilitate versus effectuate blah blah blah But they said you gotta do it you gotta do all that stuff They say it's the thing you gotta do it and like you know They've they're now saying that like it wasn't an accident or like it wasn't a mistake

Yeah, it was you say you say it multiple times It's in writing that you admitted that it was a mistake. And so there's all these, well, technically this, or these very high-minded Republicans, which is to say idiots like JD Vance, trying to talk around this as being an impossible thing or as being just a weird distraction or something. But you're establishing that, let's say there's a case where it's not even as murky.

Cause like they're trying to paint it as like, oh, this is murky thing. Like maybe he was, an informant said he was, he was a gang member, this, this, this, like all these details, they don't really matter actually. Right. And- It's also bullshit, but like-

Exactly, yes. Yeah, it needs to be clear that that's all bullshit. There is literally not, I have not seen a shred of evidence to support the claim. There's nothing. Except for the fact that somebody in 2019, an immigration officer, falsely apparently made the claim.

An officer who we like was not on the record or was not in the, did not talk to the immigration judge, said that a confidential informant said that he was in MS-13, and then when they found out who that officer was, it turned out he'd already been indicted and suspended for sharing classified information with a commercial sex worker. Anyway, the other evidence was-

So that is the evidence. Right, it was the other evidence. He was in a Home Depot parking lot at 2 p.m. near, maybe not even talking to other people, and he wore a Chicago Bulls hat. Hat. Ah yes, MS-13 in the Chicago Bulls. A high ranking member, as Pam Bondi says.

Because also I've also seen framed like, oh, so they're like, yeah, he was hanging out with drug dealers and gang members in the middle of the night, and it's like, you, like, so they're like, yeah, he was hanging out with like drug dealers and gang members like in the middle of the night. And it's like, you can't even read fucking military time. Like, what are you talking about? It's two in the afternoon at a Home Depot. That's- Where people go to get work.

The most- It's- Day labor work. That's just- Why do you think, yeah, it's, it's, but anyway, Cody, you're right, it does not matter. But right, exactly. It doesn't matter.

And it's indicative of how they will treat any case like this in the future when it inevitably happens again and again and again, and in more egregious examples, and more people get sent to these fucking torture prisons overseas for, see, probably nothing, seemingly nothing, or maybe something, but we don't know because they're not being given due process,

which is their right as a person with feet in the United States. You have to be like a citizen, you have to be born here, like all this stuff, you'd have to have your feet on the ground in the United States. But I guess technically it doesn't have anymore. So maybe that's, as soon as you're out, those are your rights to go on.

It's, it soon as you're out, you get, those are your rights to go on. It's frustrating. It's overwhelming to parse, yeah. I do think it's interesting, heartening, heartening, that's not the right word, but I've become very accustomed to news stories blipping in and out. You know, everything's happening all at once, and so it's hard to maintain the thread.

This certainly seems to have captured everybody's attention across the board in a more sustained way. So that's something. Unless you're an anonymous Democrat who hates that it's actually being a sustained story and thinks it's a distraction that we shouldn't be talking about because we got to talk about tariffs every day for all time.

I think this is an interesting point. What Cody is referencing is a report from Axios, where some anonymous House Democrats, centrists called the deportation issue a, quote, soup du jour, saying Trump is, quote, setting a trap for the Democrats and like usual were falling for it and Gavin Newsom In a kind of rambly incoherent, but you can kind of talk about if you really look at it Bit at a press conference yesterday called it a distraction. Yeah, it's a you know, this is the distraction of the day Yeah, it's a you know, this is the distraction of the day

The art of distraction don't get distracted by distractions. We saying here we zig and zag This is the debate they want This is their 80-20 issue as they've described it You know those that believe in the rule of law defending it But it's tough case because people are really are they defending MSR 13? Are defending, you know, someone who's out of sight out of mind in El Salvador? I mean, we're perfect sheep. So I want to answer your question. I don't know, I had much value answering it. I mean, are you kidding me? I do want to talk about this for a second, because the idea is that Trump's numbers are

so underwater on the economy and people always think that Democrats are bad with immigration, so let's focus on this stuff where we know it's a winner for us. It isn't so clear that the public is just super on board with the deportation stuff. In polls, when they ask, do you approve of Trump's handling of immigration, he's like plus seven. Fine, in the general broad sense. But when they ask about the things he's specifically doing,

it's extremely unpopular. When they're asked, hey, should the administration be allowed to take undocumented immigrants and send them not to their country of origin, but to a prison in El Salvador. It's like minus 32. Of course people don't think that's good. The numbers here, only 15% believe that undocumented immigrants with jobs should be deported. Only 5% want the spouses of US citizens deported.

People think there are these mass of undocumented immigrants who aren't working, who don't have families, who aren't in our society, in our communities. And it's just not the case. So when you ask about the specific issues, people aren't on board with it. And I don't think it's a political loser to focus on this stuff.

I completely agree. You're nailing it on the head. Like, when you zoom out, people say one thing. But when you dig into it and you see the reality of what this looks like, no. And even before the election, a lot of people was like, well, no, I don't mean mass deportations. They genuinely bought the lie of, yeah, violent criminals.

I think that that's the reasonable thing. You don't want violent criminals in. And again, the conversation that we were having leading up to is like, who do you think that they're gonna target? Do you really think it's gonna be, how do you prove who's a violent criminal? This is exactly what we predicted.

To the process, the process do them is how you show that, yeah. Yeah, it's always been clear what was going to happen. And as we've talked about, it's maybe good it's always been clear what was going to happen and I you know, as we've talked about it's maybe Good that people are sort of like seeing the actual thing instead of the slogan on a sign Because also like it starts with whoever and then it leads to basically everyone else or whoever else Grunts and at home groans exactly. He's talking about quote unquote home groans because he's a psychopath. But like you have this scenario now where,

and here's one thing about this like, oh so distractionist, this is this. It's morally correct. Exactly. It's politically, we don't know. Jonathan laid out the political sort of argument for why it's important. But it's also morally correct.

It's also like the law says, like it's a protection of like literally like these laws that we have on how our democracy and country functions, how our legal system functions, who is who is deserving of rights and who isn't. And it's everybody's deserving of rights. and who isn't. And it's everybody's deserving of rights. And part of this isn't just like, well, it's a distraction. It's like, it's a political loser for us. It's important because it is morally correct. And it is important for the future in protecting our rights.

We're talking about all these things being whittled away slowly. If they get away with it, then they'll do it more. They'll do it more aggressively. They'll do it with more people, with other kinds of people, with other people who are, like, are American citizens, whatever it is, they're gonna keep going harder and harder with it.

So it's important to address it and make it a point of contention now so that it potentially doesn't happen more and more. And like, I also find the whole thing, like, we gotta focus on terrorists. That's like the thing. It's gonna tank his poll numbers. It's fucking four months into this administration, three months. Who cares?

Who cares about like whether or not his approval is up or down at this point because of tariffs. You need to stop these like material things from happening and go after these like on the like in the ways that can affect them. You can talk about tariffs all day long. If Trump's approval rating goes down now, great. You have a year until midterms anyway. Like focus on these important things.

It speaks to a fundamental problem here with the Democrats. Well, with politics, but in the United States, they're so much more concerned with polling and. It's loser talk. And well, you know, trying to put your finger up, engage the wind to see what's the right political strategy to implement instead of doing the right thing or creating policy that actually benefits Americans,

America, which includes a healthy immigration system. So they're too terrified enough to have their heads up America, which includes a healthy immigration system. So they're too terrified enough to have their heads up their own asses to realize, even though it gets proven over and over and over again, then that's not the way to govern and that's not what we need or want. It's just ignoring the writing on the wall to try to find the safest bet

instead of doing anything substantial. If they are like, well, it would be politically expedient to concede on Trump ignoring a Supreme Court ruling, like you don't have- What does your future look like? You don't deserve to be the opposition party. You don't deserve to get anyone's votes, which you're going to be asking for, and I very much hope you get in 18 months or whatever it is.

Also, by the way, Trump ignoring a Supreme Court ruling is incredibly unpopular, as you would expect. It's not like, oh, this will be a distraction to say like, hey, rule of law, law and order, blah, blah, blah. That's what everyone wants. And he's flouting it. Maybe bring that up every time you speak. Exactly. Well, like this is a, you know, not every politician, but more and more these days Democrats are like, yeah, like remember when last year when we were like, he's a fascist and he hates democracy and he wants to crumble democracy and wants to destroy our economy

and all these sort of things. Well, he's doing all of that now. And if you are sort of, yeah, capitulating or being like, ah, it's a distraction that he's trying to strip away people's rights and due process and then ignoring Supreme Court decisions. What does that mean for anything that happens in the future for you? It's not like, oh, he'll only ignore

these Supreme Court rulings when it's about immigration. Like, it's safe if it's about immigration, but anything else, it doesn't follow, it's absurd. It's very frustrating to see. Maybe there's a reason that many people in that Axios piece wanted to remain anonymous. It's a very weird thing to be like, as a reasonable centrist who's like, common sense,

we should not be ignoring talking about this distraction. It's very funny to say that, but also want to be anonymous. If it's common sense and it's a political loser for you, you should feel like comfortable saying it out loud with your face attached to it and your name attached to it and say that it's a distraction. Otherwise, maybe you think maybe people aren't actually gonna be happy about that.

Like we're talking about him. He's one person among hundreds of people who have been sent to this prison. And we don't know Many with no criminal records. The majority of whom have no criminal records. And of course, even if they do, they shouldn't be sent there with no due process, etc. You know, even if they do, they shouldn't be sent there with no due process, etc. You know, Pam Bondi said, I think, press secretary Carolyn Levitt said this as well, even if he were to come back, we would just deport him right back again. And you know, it's really interesting because immigration court is not the same as like

a trial. Immigration judges are like employees of the department of justice. They're not like other judges. The bar to clear is much, much lower, which is why an immigration judge said, well, some cop heard that he was in MS 13. I'm supposed to just take their word for it. And that's what it is. They might be able to strip him of that special protected status he was given and deport him, which brings up the question of,

okay, so if it's that easy to do, why won't you just do that? It makes you worry about his condition down there and the condition of many of these other people. Mirwell Gutierrez is a 19-year-old asylum seeker with no criminal history who was living in the Bronx. He was one of 200 Venezuelans taken by ICE in February and sent to that prison. His father was there during the raid.

He said the officers grabbed him and two other boys right at the entrance to our building. One said, no, he's not the one, like they were looking for someone else, but the other said, take, he's not the one. Like they were looking for someone else. But the other said, take him anyway. Arturo Suarez Trejo was a 33-year-old musician living in the US. He called his wife and newborn daughter who were in Venezuela. He said, hey, I'm in a holding center, a detention center in Texas.

They're sending me back. So at least we'll be reunited soon. But less than a day later, Mr. Suarez was shackled, loaded onto a plane and sent to a maximum security prison in El Salvador, according to an internal government, the Taney's obtained by the New York Times. There are more stories like this of people who have been sent to this prison or have people who are just being deported for holding views the administration disagrees with or who have been mistaken

for someone else. Just today, we read about Juan Carlos Lopez Gomez. Born in Georgia in the United States, was detained during a traffic stop for unauthorized alien enter Florida without inspection, maybe because his name resembles a similar name on a different list. His mother showed up to the courthouse today with his birth certificate and social security card and the judge found there was no probable Cause for any immigration related charge, but the judge said she could not release him as he still had an ice hold But like it goes on and on so we're focusing on this one person and I think with good cause because I think his story is really worth

Highlighting but any of these people could be the face of this on this one person and I think with good cause because I think his story is really worth highlighting, but any of these people could be the face of this movement. That's the thing, it's, thank you for going through some of those people because it is easy to focus on the one story, but the point is that it could be anybody. I wanna highlight the quote you said of, "'Take him anyway.'"

And that is the big problem, and there are many big problems, but that's one of the main problems, is that they don't care. They're not, and you see this in obviously the vances of the world and the GOP generally, but also all the conservative punditry. Greg Gutfeld was on.

Being very funny, very funny. okay, I wanna make it clear. He's hilarious. I'm not being, this isn't biased, he's very funny, hard not to laugh, and I did. No, he's like doing this rant about this case and basically like coming down on the fact that he doesn't care. Like maybe he, you know, like, they're like,

oh, they're framing him like he's a father, a family man, like all this stuff and sort of mocking the idea that he was a human being and then saying that I don't care that some people will slip through the cracks is what they're saying It's not admitting that many way ice palantir that is providing the facial recognition surveillance technology says undoubtedly There's gonna be mistakes. We're trying to be responsible with this. And that's what Gutfeld said. At worst, a guy gets sent to a country he doesn't want to go to. You know what?

I can live with that. Into a prison camp? Not just out in Hawaii. Look, I'm not, I'm sorry, Jessica. I understand your concern, but I refuse to care about one person who is an illegal alien when the mental shelf space that I have is now reserved for victims of crime which I've been talking about for years this manufactured narrative family man father of

3 coming from the media who with the same intensity talked about having children was bad for the climate are now telling us that when you have children you are now a pillar of the community if that guy was a white American citizen, they would just call him a MAGA extremist. But he's an illegal alien and he has kids. And now he's the spirit of the community. He's a good guy. What if it was your son, Greg? Exactly. Also, I think Jessica Tarlov immediately was like a torture prison.

Yeah, into a prison camp. Like a prison camp. And he's like, still, he's like, I don't care, you're being like emotional or whatever, I forget the rest of it. But like, that was what he was saying. I don't care. People are going to suffer who don't deserve it.

But as long as the people who I think do deserve it are suffering, then it's okay. It disrupts his mental shelf space, he says. Yes, it disrupts his mental shelf space. You're a millionaire, Gutfeld. Shut up. Eat your own shit, Gutfeld. Eat it, puke it out, eat that puke, shit that out,

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And every day there's someone like, wow, I can't believe he's doing this. Like I lost my vote. Well, first of all, no, he didn't because the election is over. You voted. He won. You helped him win. But like, I can't believe he's doing every single thing he said he's going to do. That's it. That's what's going on. He's just doing everything doing every single thing he said he's going to do. That's it. That's what's going on. He's just doing everything, a single thing he said he

was going to do and more. It is different than the first term when he wasn't able to follow through on shit. If we had upstanding guys like Jeff Sessions and Rex Tillerson reigning him in. That's right. Exactly. And who knew that was working? Mnuchin was in there. Who knew that worked? Yeah, Mnuchin. Who knew how good we were eating?

John Kelly, Miles Taylor, who's now there's an executive order being like he's shitty. Miles Taylor is the anonymous I am the resistance inside the Trump administration, who's also a Havana Syndrome sufferer and member of the Forward Party. It doesn't matter, he doesn't deserve

to have an executive order attacking him. We still on that one? Sorry, I know a lot of this guy. That's so many things about that guy. Yeah, it's, I mean, we'll see. We just wanted to mention it as like, this is a thing that's happening. Yeah, it goes along with this conversation for sure.

This is all part of it. And again, it's like, they don't care. They just wanna get as many people out as possible. Even like, and they don't care their reasoning. I'm not going to talk about Gutfeld a whole lot more, but I have to mention his, one of his fucking things during his rant was about how like, they say like, oh, he's a family man.

He has kids when they were telling you to not have kids because of climate change. Who are they? Who are you talking about? It's just like, you're, you, you've got this, like, you got it like something in your craw from five years ago, some tweet you saw, and then you painted it. That's everybody.

And so I'm gonna use this as my argument for deporting it. It's all he's got. They're gonna just pull out all the stops and dig into the well of political theater attacks and use that as a justification to create a big, soupy mess of confusion. I saw an article that said climate change of kids. What do you guys think about checking in on the economy real quick? How are we looking with tariffs, Jonathan?

How how are we looking? They're still happening and they're still worse than anyone thought they were going to be. Better. Oh, no, it's not. No, it's not. The economy is thriving, though, right? The market's bad, consumer sentiment's down. Damn, damn. People who get things from China

to make products in this country are not able to do that. And I know we're bringing manufacturing back, but manufacturing is down in this country because we did make stuff, we made clean energy stuff, and now the people who make the clean energy stuff don't have the subsidies and can't get the materials they need. So the prospects for future manufacturing

is less than it was a month ago. So actually this is sounding bad? It's bad. It is in fact bad. We need to start building factories during that week. And then if we had built the factories in a week, we could have been ready. Just need to print the factories.

We simply needed to change our climate to grow bananas in that one week. My jaw dropped when I, was it Tuesday, Monday, Tuesday? We're like, he starts floating the idea of 245% tariffs on China. That'll fix it. No, you know what? Honestly, 372% tariffs.

Why not round up? Like, let's just do it. Yeah, 245 rounds up to 372. I do have to say that it wasn't like, I'm sorry, it wasn't like a new thing. Buried in like one of their statements. It said China faces up to 245 percent tariffs and everyone was like wait, what where did the 245 come from? It was very well This is the 125 percent we put on them plus the 20 percent fentanyl tariffs Which we put on them and then there was a 100 percent tariff on certain products

That Biden put into place specifically on Chinese electric vehicles and syringes because it's like, no, no, no, we want to help our American electric vehicle companies like Tesla because Biden was so anti-business and was so mean to Elon Musk. He hated Tesla. There were already tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles. So anyway, if you are importing a Chinese syringe, specifically, which comes loaded with COVID or the virus.

And fentanyl. And fentanyl. COVID and fentanyl, yeah. It's 245%. But the point is, is that the White House will release these statements, these like PR statements of how much we're doing and then Writers for the Wall Street Journal will be like what the fuck what does this mean? How and then importers will be like what I need to know what the payment process is and I don't

It's a complete mess as Admit it and order, all right? We already talked about the law, which we figured out, and now we're talking about the order, which we've. We'll figure out. We're gonna figure it out. Walk into the sea in an orderly fashion.

In an orderly fashion, single file. Single file. Hide your numbers. Anyway, stock markets aren't doing so good. Bond markets seem dicey. Yeah. I don't know, it's scary. We don't need to good. Bond markets seem dicey. Yeah. I don't know. It's scary. We don't need to tell.

No, the 10-year treasury yield, which we all know. Who wants me to talk for 10 minutes if I'm joking? Oh, yeah. Please. I am not prepared to do that. I've been thinking about this for years. I've been chomping at the bit waiting for Johnny's. I am sorry.

Jonathan Ray. Jonathan Ray. Jonathan Ray The 10-year Treasury yield we all give a shit about that sorry, okay? Well, that's the other thing too where it's like I don't know. This is a distraction. You just talk about tariffs. I don't know if people want to hear about Yeah, it's the details of it like I mean like the sort of minutiae, like they're like, well, actually, like these high yield, but like, all right, most people are going to tune that out. Tell me is toilet paper available? Can I afford rent is that what they want? They want the number of the numbers that I have. Are they going to get a lot lower because the other

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Or is it? It is. Or it is. Or... It is. The Wall Street Journal published an article about how Elon Musk manages the women who

give birth to his children and how he propositions women through the app he owns to have his children. And there's some really fantastic tidbits here that I want Cody to point out the stuff he wants to talk about the most. But I want to start by saying that he refers to all of his offspring as Legion, as if they're part of his army. And he, in a text message to Ashley St. Clair, one of the mothers of one of his children, Romulus, although he disputes, even though he named the child,

that maybe it's not his, but she's very upset. He said, to reach Legion level before the apocalypse, we will need to use surrogates. That is so fucking chilling to me. It's repulsive. It's repulsive. It's disgusting. Chilling is also a good word for it.

Just that mentality, the mentality of it. You know you sound like a super villain. And I know you think it's cool. But it makes you sound like a weird loser. I know you're technically winning because you're like the richest man on the planet. And you're like technically the president too. But this is loser talk. you're like the richest man on the planet and you're like technically the president too. But

this is loser talk. What a so repulsive and to be so transparently using the website that you bought to to facilitate this is so again it's like loser stuff and like we know one of the subjects of this And like we know one of the subjects of this piece is, what's her name? Tiffany Fong. And this is a sort of a series of events that we've all come to recognize as what's actually going on. And I distinctly remember this from, was it last year or like months ago,

where this user of his website was bragging about her earnings for having Twitter blue and getting so much engagement. And amidst that, you also saw a lot of replies from Elon Musk specifically to her tweets in that disgusting sort of like desperation dripping. Like, I guess you could call it flirting, but I don't know what it actually is. All of his replies, 100%. Wow. Oh my gosh. Don't you hate woke people? And then her payout stopped and you stopped seeing so many of her tweets and he unfollowed her on his website. And everyone who watched was like, oh, he tried to give her his sperm.

And she said no. And then he unfollowed her and took away her payments. And it's very obvious that that was what's going on. Literally, that's exactly what happened. It's same thing with Ashley St. Clair. It was very clear like, oh, Elon's trying to do this. This is one of his like targets. And correct about that again,

it's just he's a freaky little freak. He's a freak man. He uses his power to manipulate women and then own them basically. They say like, yeah, he's like, here's how he manages these women. No, here's how he controls these women. And his legion of children.

He's building his compound or has this area where everyone lives in the same compound but has their own houses. But Grimes would not join him there, which bothered him. Because she's the most normal. Congratulations to Grimes on being the most normal. Or that's his goal. That's what he wanted is to have them all move

into the same space. He wants his big love compound. He wants a big love compound, but only Gene Triple Horn agreed to do it. Yes, exactly. No one else would agree to go through with it. Just Von Zillis, I think. And he wants his kid Legion to be there.

And, and, and, and, they can't hate me. Yeah, they can. Well, they can. They just can't tweet about it. They can't legally hate me. God, I can't stop. I was reading this, I couldn't stop thinking, Cody, I sent you the video of Gabby Wendy's Elon Musk. You love that so much. Look up Gabby Wendy talking about Elon Musk. He just sucks.

You get a baby, you get a baby, you get a baby. She's great. But also, you kind of don't. You get my baby that I control, and if you act out, then I get to go after you. Yeah, your baby's gonna be sent to Mars to start the colony, whether you like it or not. Exactly.

That's not ever gonna happen. I wanna highlight one other part of this piece about birth rates. Separately, Musk has said... Yes, thank you, Sirigar. Ah, yes, tying it all in. Musk has said he is concerned about what he called third world countries having higher birth rates than the US and Europe, a person familiar with the conversation said.

One of the most important ways to change these dynamics, he has repeatedly told people close to him, is for educated people to have more children. What's he mean by that? I wonder. Well, because, okay. So like, okay, it's fine. It's actually good and normal. No, this is a, he's a weird little Nazi guy. He is a eugenicist white nationalist guy who wants only white European people to a eugenicist, white nationalist guy who wants only white European people to breed. He's pretty explicit about it. If you have listened to him, seen any of his tweets for the past two, three, four years, it's very clear what's going on there. If you have educated parents, Elon, do you think that education transfers to the child's genetics?

Is that the education? If you're educated, that's just, you went to school, you got educated, that's knowledge that you've accumulated. Well, if that was the case, you would want you'd want more education. You'd want better education available to more people. So that doesn't seem to be the play here. You also, if you were just, again, to my point earlier,

specifically concerned about birth rates, you would want people to come to the United States. You wouldn't want to end birthright citizenship, and you would want them to have an education, unless that's not really what you care about. You don't want third world countries having higher birth rates. And he's also, we've talked about this before,

he's mentioned very explicitly a couple of times, like the way birth rates are raised is that you're uneducated and you're poor and you're more religious. And that seems to be related to everything he's trying to do to America at this current moment is to make everybody poorer and less educated and more religious. And then all of his rich friends who are not religious, he encourages them to take his sperm. And

then he can have them make a little circle around him and they'll just walk along with him wherever he goes so that he doesn't get assassinated, which is his main concern. Do you wanna talk about this RFK Jr. thing he said about autistic people now? Well, because we've already talked, we talked earlier this week about some of RFK's claims about his upcoming blockbuster report about autism

and what causes it. Spoiler alert, it's probably going to say vaccines. They're not going to be doing studies, although they did announce the doctor is going to do the studies, who seems to be disgraced. I said that on Monday. Yeah, he seems to be quite disgraced and not doing anything the way normal scientists or doctors would do research or studying these

sort of things. There are many people who have done that and you can we can look at those studies which RFK would like to ignore them. So sort of this campaign being like we're going to release our report that we're putting together instead of these studies and he said this thing about autism. You'll hear the intro to this but to be clear clear, he's not saying, by the way, I'm only talking about severely disabled, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and if he did that, still this would be bad. But he is just simply blanket referring to autistic people, I believe. Autism destroys families.

More importantly, it destroys our greatest resource, which are children. These are children who should not be suffering like this. These are kids who, many of them, were fully functional and regressed because of some environmental exposure into autism when they're two years old. And these are kids who will never pay taxes, they'll never hold a job, they'll never play baseball, they'll never write a poem, they'll never go out on a date, many of them will never use a toilet unassisted. And we have to recognize we are doing this to our children. And we need to put an end to it.

This is just so wrong. So frustrating and patently false. It's, you speak to, I don't think you can speak in generalizations, say everybody, but every family of an autistic person I've ever met has been so filled with joy and talk about how wonderful they are. There's nothing wrong with being autistic. People are high-functioning. People are autistic and hold jobs, pay taxes, have

beautiful lives and families, and even if they didn't, who fucking cares? You're still a joyous human life. And you are, it's the whole idea that you need to be productive in some way to be a valuable member of society. Also autistic people are very productive. What is productivity? If you bring a smile to one person's face,

I think that you are productive. Also you don't need to be productive. I'm rambling. Also, Elon Musk is apparently autistic. That's what he says. That's what he says. I'm enraged by this quote. I am.

Because there's a spectrum. And there are some people who struggle more than others. Sure. But there's like, with like patients and care, everybody can like live a life worth living. than others, but there's like, you know, with like patients and care, everybody can like live a life worth living. And it just seems like he's framing this as like, it's like a life not worth living.

And that is really, really gross and depressing without even getting into like the details of like, of all the, you know, the different experiences people have. And I did note that it was kind of funny to start with paying taxes as like, hey, you'll never get to pay taxes. Oh no, we never, like, I think everybody would love to not do that.

But it does speak to what you're talking about and this sort of like, this idea of like, oh, it's not a life worth living is what his whole, like, that whole statement was kind of saying. And it does in some ways, hearken back to the Nazis and sort of like this,

like you're unworthy of life. Life unworthy of life is a common phrase there. Useless eaters sort of like, well, if you're not being productive, if you're not like paying taxes, having a job or going on a date or whatever it is, it's like a wasted life. And that's a very, very like dark road to go down. And it's just very, very alarming to hear

this guy in this position talk about it in that way. And to sort of paint an entire community, which again, like the law, wide range of experiences where we as a society can actually like, we can all live together and live fulfilling lives without, yeah. He's also pretending that he's being compassionate. That goes out the window when your first thing on your list is never get to pay taxes, in my opinion. Any semblance of being empathetic to autistic children, you don't really give a shit about their life experience. Well, right, and notwithstanding, obviously he's lying about the environmental exposure. There are many different factors.

We know this, he's full of shit and a liar and wrong, and I think believes it, so maybe he's not intentionally a liar, he and wrong and I think believes it. So maybe he's not like intentionally a liar He's just wrong and dumb about it. But he's also just being defamatory and saying like, okay To go back to Gutfeld's phrase who are the people were not supposed to have mental shelf space for anymore? Okay Immigrants not just immigrants maybe just brown people in general. Okay, thanks, Greg. Autistic people, maybe it's going to be anyone with a disability soon. Maybe it already is, right?

Like, they're three months in, they are adding so many people to this list of, as you said, the useless eaters. He didn't use that phrase, but it's very clear the implication. If we can't get this turned around, if we can't end autism the useless eaters. He didn't use that phrase, but it's very clear the implication. If we can't get this turned around, if we can't end autism once and for all, then what? Then, exactly. And you know, science is complicated.

It takes a long time. It's hard to control for a number of factors. But because of the anti-vaccine movement, vaccine rates have decreased in the past several years, and yet the rate of autism, or at least the rate of diagnosing autism, has gone up. Wouldn't you expect the rate to go down if vaccine use had gone down?

I don't know, I'm not the first person to make these points, but like, what are we? I know, no, I know. If you're making them out there, like, yes, we're thinking about this stuff. This is, he's an asshole. Yeah, and just like, so many things in just such a, like that was a 20 second clip of him talking, and it's like, well, that's wrong

because it's like factually incorrect. Like, we know this, we know this, we know this. Also, like, that's pretty disgusting. Also, like, just every step of the way, it's just gross and wrong. And it's, yeah, it's another one of those alarming things that you hear, and it could go in a very, very worst direction, or maybe it won't.

But it's just something to note, I guess. Noted. I don't know. All right, I think all of our nervous systems need a break, so we're gonna wrap it up. Thank you guys for your support. You don't look at me like that, Cody. I'm just listening. I look judged.

No. I look second guessed. No. Yeah. Keep talking. I'll do my listening face. Is it the Trump Grimp? that's the best face in the world Oh God we probably can't use that in the thumbnail because it's not

That was the most unappealing thumbnail I could ever imagine is us all doing that face gosh, okay, that's it. We're done We'll see you again early next week, bright and early next week. Have a nice weekend. And most important, please remember. Okay. We love you very much. Much. Much!

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