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Episode Date: May 10, 2024

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Hello and welcome back to Even More News, the first and only news podcast. My name is Katie Stoll. Hi, Katie Stoll. Thanks for welp- welco- no, that's good. Keep going. Thanks for welcoming me and me specifically to the podcast. I'm doing great. I'm speaking clearly. I'm articulating. I'm enunciating. We're doing great. We're just getting started. You're just warming up.

It feels like it's been forever since we've been here, but it's only been a week. It's only been a week. I'm warmed up from last week already. But it has been a minute since we've had our guests on and we're very excited to welcome back the cohost of the podcast. You are good. Alex Steed. Hello. Hello. What a delight to be here with you. The last time we talked Nikki Haley seemed like she might be an option and now we're in a much different place. But it's also the same place.

It's the exact same place. Actually, we're going to talk to you about that right after the holidays, because that's literally something we wanted to bring up. But we do have some holidays to celebrate. Thank goodness. Thank goodness. And honestly, kind of into both of them today. So Buckler, May 10th, Friday, May 10th. This is National Shrimp Day.

Oh, yeah. National Day calendar continues researching. Yeah. Oh, how dare you. It's the food that we like. We like our short kings, our short good kings. That's right. National Day Calendar continues researching the origins of the seafood holiday. No matter how we celebrate, though, we won't skimp on the shrimp. Wait a second. Yeah.

Continues researching. Yeah, this is a weird sentence. How long have they been doing that? How long have they been researching the origins of this day? Also, don't they get to decide what more do they have to do? They're excavating the library of Alexandria to try to find the origins of National Shrimp Day. Godspeed to them. Hope there are any snakes. When it proclaimed it.

So look, I used to be a vegetarian for a long time and then started introducing some protein. And I'm mostly pescatarian at this point, mostly plant-based, but then I'll eat seafood. But I feel great. I don't need people chiming in on my diet. But my sister-in-law told me to do this and I find it to be an incredible hack as I buy a bag of the cooked frozen shrimp and keep it in the freezer, obvi, and then defrost some when I'm making a quick dinner. So like a shrimp pasta or a stir fry or something like that. And I have found it to be very easy. Okay. Go out there and get a big bag of shrimp folks. So maybe maybe I'll make some thought. Maybe shrimp tacos. Kamala was celebrating early.

Shrimp and grits. Shrimp and grits for shrimp and grits. Did you all saw that? Jonathan doesn't look like you saw it. You saw it. Alex, did you see this? No, it's fine. It's fine. I already talked about this earlier. We got a different podcast, so I'll keep this very brief. Kamala came out of a restaurant and she was holding a bag and she was asked about Gaza and she said shrimp and grits. I would argue that's not how it happened.

She came out and immediately said, I got shrimp and grits like you asked me before I went in and then as she was saying that somebody was asking a question she didn't answer it. She got in the car. She went away. It's funny. The person who was asking that question was Eric Garcia, which is funny too. He's been on our show before. Oh, that's a full circle. Full circle. I wish you heard the question. And then May 11th, National Dog Moms Day. So I'm expecting the flowers in the mail, everybody. I'm assuming I don't know. Check my mother's resentful that the day before Mother's Day is National Dog Moms

Day. It's like the amount of times, not, okay, not all the time, but I've certainly heard the comment, like me doting on my dog, you know, pets aren't the same as children. I know that. People know that. People know that. People don't know that. Some people do.

You would be, every time I meet, cause I have a son who's just over a year old, and every time I talk to someone about what he's going through, someone who has a dog will be like, yes, they're at about the same intelligence level as my Muffy right now. They're doing just what Rutteger is doing.

And I'm like, stop comparing your dog to my human being. And I love dogs, but it's made me become a- One of those types? It's because, yeah, I'm becoming someone who doesn't like dogs Everyone's trying to compare them to my flesh and blood. I will never do that to you. I will never do that Although my dog although my dog I Mean he is a human trapped in a dog's body. So is Maggie No, Benny's a dog through and through anyway

I you maybe are confirming my suspicions that maybe some moms out there might be a little resentful that as dog moms Claimed the day before they were for mother's day. Yeah Yeah Anyway, okay Are we gonna talk about the queen of dog moms? Yeah, okay. Thank you. Yeah, we'll talk about her later Really good dog bombing on there. Okay, Alex as you brought up the last time you were here on the show We this one. Yeah, this one recap the first Republican presidential debate Yeah, we were talking about Ron D Santus Tim Scott Nikki Haley and the vague

rhymes with cake. Rhymes with cake. Ramashwami. Was it a waste of time or an extreme waste of time? I like if you just now were part of that intro was like a quiz and you were like, who was at the debate? I would have gotten two names maybe correctly. These have already burned out of my.

What is Vivek doing? Is he is he boiling animals somewhere? Like what is he up to? There I think he's still fighting for VP slash Podcast on daily wire. Yeah He I'll just read I'll just read this tweet that he tweeted yesterday about his his podcast or some podcast. He's doing called truth tweeted yesterday about his podcast or some podcast he's doing called Truth. Unbelievable, Vivek. First of all, pathetic name for your podcast. The Truth podcast.

Oh, I thought you said, Kruth. No, truth. As in the president's, the president's like social media. Whatever. It's truth. All caps period is their logo. Pathetic stuff. Really silly. Anyway. Oh, God, okay, so he had Ann Coulter on and here's his tweet about how that went. It's his pinned tweet, by

the way. Ann Coulter told me flat out to my face that she couldn't vote for me because you're an Indian even though she agreed with me more than most other candidates. I disagree with her but respect she had the guts to speak her mind. It was a riveting hour, the truth podcast is back. Yikes. That's what I said. Yikes. But you know, he's been having the important conversations of whether or not Ann Coulter

will vote for him because he's Indian or because he's not Indian enough. I don't know what her opinion is about that. That's gotta not feel good on some level, man. Probably. I mean, a lot of the voters during the time when he was pretending to think he could be the president said the exact same thing about him. And you know, it's got to be tough to hear and to be in a party that like really accepts that kind of like viewpoint, but at certain points like look around, to make what do you like?

What do you think you're doing? Yeah. Is he worried he's going to lose his podcast if he calls her a racist? Like, is that what his concern is? Because otherwise, why not just call her a weird? I don't know. I think that it probably he's got to play to the audience. And I think his audience that he's chasing here would like to be let off the hook for saying something that most people would consider quite racist.

You know? Yeah, it's very odd because also like who's really like. We'll and out and culture to like get her opinion on stuff in twenty twenty four. So like, it's OK to not respect and culture for saying out loud that she's racist. What's the line calculus? I mean, we've learned recently that it's don't brag about shooting a dog. But like, what is like, what do you think the calculus is

when people do this sort of thing? Like, who are they worried about burning? Who are they worried it coming? Coming up, it seems like no one is really worried about a whole lot, aside from, again, bragging about shooting dogs. But like, I don't I don't what is the line calculus that you think people people typically do in this case? Yeah. I mean, I think for like Vivek,

you're specifically probably in a lot of people about this kind of stuff. Sadly, it's kind of like Twitter blue stuff. It's like it's like online stuff, because I feel like whenever I see anybody in that camp, like point out just like this is kind of racist or like, I don't like this. The Babylon B, every once in a while, will post something that's like Nazis are bad and their comments get flooded with like, hey, I thought you were on the right side or whatever. Like this sort of baffled response of like, wait a second,

I thought we were all saying the same thing. And I think some of this is just sort of like avoiding that kind of backlash because it can't be like, like, oh, good. And Coulter was on and was racist and he didn't like tell her that. So now you get to have Steve Saylor on your podcast and are like, what's the yeah. What is the goal there? But I don't know. I'm not sure there is a line calculus. I'm not happy about any of the people who are going to be president,

but I'm happy he's not going to be the president. Yeah, he's someone I just want to see. He's like a twerp. He's like a classic 80s, 80s movie twerp. He's like a like the like the sex pest brother from like an 80s movie. Although he exudes none of that. He just he has a different kind of torpiness. And I energy. Yeah.

Yeah. Is that energy. And I just want to see him fail. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I do think we get to, but no twerps, no twerps in our White House or our podcasts or whatever he's going to be doing. Our Twitter circles. You hear that? That's a learning sound. You know, the human mouth can do a lot of great and terrible things. Recite poetry, eat mice and everything in between.

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Rules and restrictions may apply, or as they say in Espanja, rules and restrictions may apply if I were an English speaker in Spainain i would say it like that okay well i suppose we should do the thing that we are all gathered here today to do get married no okay no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, know. We're going to start off talking about Gaza, a few different stories and talking about the protests some more. So, Jonathan. Throwing to you. Yeah, there are a lot of updates here.

Israel earlier this week seized the Rafa crossing on the border of Gaza and Egypt. It is initiating its assault in that area, which we've known is coming for a long time where a million Palestinians have sought refuge. The WHO says that the city's healthcare facilities only has a few days of fuel left. The largest hospital in the area has ceased operations. The WHO as well as the UNRWA are begging Israel to reopen the border crossing so that aid can get in there. Meanwhile, President Biden, who has I guess to his credit said that an incursion into Rafa would be a bad idea for

a while. He withheld a shipment of... Do you want to dispute that? He's Hamas. He's Hamas. We know that now. President Biden withheld a shipment of. Yeah. Do you want to say that? Is Hamas? No, it's OK. We know that now. President Biden withheld a shipment of 3500 heavy bombs to Israel. In response, in a CNN interview, he admitted that American weapons have been used to kill civilians. He says if they go into Rafa, I'm not supplying the weapons that have been used historically to deal with Rafa, to deal with the cities,

to deal with that problem. It's just wrong. So I'm sorry, but we have been supplying them with weapons. I mean, they're still using our weapons. Just not the new ones. Also like it's so interesting hearing him talk. The phrase I'm not supplying the weapons that have been used historically to deal with this, like historically, you mean like for the past six months? Like, yeah, he does. It's like it's like very like just the language is very distancing. And I wonder if that's purposefully distancing

or if that's just how he talks. But it's an odd phrasing. Much like with Trump, it feels like you're trying to interpret what he means to say, because when you because that struck me to listening to him say this to Aaron Burnett on CNN, it's like, what do you mean by that? Historically, you're just talking. Right. Yeah. Is he just talking or is it a calculated like, no, I need to distance myself from this rhetorically for, you know, whatever secret reasons he has privately stewing in the White House. This is an interesting move that is unpopular with everyone for different reasons. Yeah, there's no wedding with this guy.

It's unlikely to appease the people who have been calling for him to withhold aid for months because we don't know if he's going to continue doing that, if this is part of a broader trend. And of course, all the pro-Israel people are now like Biden's Hamas. Biden's a Hamas lover. Yeah. I've never seen I've truly I mean, it's not surprising, but like I just truly have not seen someone less equipped for a moment. Oh, yeah. And I understand how I understand that, like

to make every there is no make everyone happy in this situation. Very obviously, and very sort of understandably considering the the the history of factions of support, etc. that exist. But I they are just so out of their league right now with regard to making anybody happy with any statement. And it's, it's, you know, as a person who does not want Trump to win, this is a lot to watch every day outside of the existing obvious horror of the situation.

It's alarming. It's concerning. Yeah, he is very uniquely just God, just god awful here. And it's wild to see. Because also like, you know, how long is, is he going to cave? Because also like the response to this from Netanyahu seems to be like, fuck you, I don't give a shit, we're doing it. Right. And, you know, whether like that could lead to withholding more or just like, OK, I guess it's going to happen anyway. So I guess we'll help you. It'll be interesting because if this, you know, there's.

If it does deter at all, you know, it would have been nice if this happened six months ago. Right. But if it does, then it's also like, well, see, you were wrong. We should. He shouldn't have done it at all. Like there's no world where this is like, you know, I don't know. At this point, it's largely symbolic because we've been supplying them with weapons and aids. It's largely symbolic unless we do this full divestment that so many people have been asking for. They already have all the weapons.

We talked about how for various reasons, Netanyahu needs to keep the war going because of Israeli politics. He's out for some reason if he can't keep this war going. I think he's out anyway. So, but right. Well, that's the thing, if there's no war, then he can't, like he is out, right?

And he will have not accomplished the thing he's been wanting to accomplish the whole time. Yeah. So like, obviously it's good that we're not giving him the 2000 pound bombs to drop on this place. It's still awful what's going on there and is probably getting... We also, we didn't give him that, this specific shipment, give him plenty. And we've also given cover. I'm saying like the whole thing we've allowed and we are continuing to allow it to happen.

And there, whether we give them the bombs or not, he knows that Biden's also not going to do anything to stop him in any capacity. Like it basically give him permission. I saw, like, obviously the pro-Isreal people aren't going to be happy that they're not getting all the bombs they want. I saw someone say, maybe this was Ari Fleischer, but Cody, you might know who wrote this that, or maybe it was Jonah Goldberg, I think, who said, well, if we're not giving them these like these super precision bombs, they're just going to use the non precision bombs. And that's going to be even worse, isn't it? And of course, to understand that you have

to ignore the last seven months of of super tight precision in terms of exactly. Yeah, I'm pretty sure those are you?ischer. I did see the exact same thing. There have been a lot of very interesting tweets from people reacting to this in totally normal ways. Well, because now it's too late for him to like, he can't like play both sides anymore. He can't say we still are supporting Israel and my position isn't changing, but also we're going to withhold a few bombs here and there to appease people. Like you're into deep

man. Right. Yeah. Like you're because you're not and you're not appeasing anybody. Yeah. Your genocide, Joe or a Hamas lover. And also like it doesn't seem to be like it's not necessarily in even in response to like the protest because he's been signaling privately for a while that this might be something that he would do to some degree. So it's not even like protesters, I hear you. Because like even after in his speech about the protests, he came out and was asked like, has this changed your position? And he said flat out, no.

And then he left. So it's not even addressing that. It's just this little like little move that won't really do anything. And then we'll probably end up giving them to them anyway. Yeah, it is a surreal moment for sure. A continued surreal moment. My brother goes to USC, he just finished his freshman year and USC is one of the campuses that is, you know, struggling to deal

with protests, I would say. And he says the attitude right now across students that he knows of any sort of ideological perspective is that they're, that they're, they're, the president is not handling things especially well on campus. And then the president overall is not doing things especially well. Yeah. It's wild. Like just from the top down, just like no, no part of this is being handled. A lot of radicalization happening this year, though. Yes. Everywhere. Yes. We love election years.

And of course, this assault on Rafa is hugely impactful for the civilians that have been told to go there to be safe and now are about to be under attack without access to aid and people are continuing to starve and not have medical treatment or it's fucking bad. Yeah, but they were told to go there. But they were told to go there. That's something I'd like the president to point out sometime. Not that these weapons have historically been used.

Like, what a guy. Yeah, I guess that's kind of my, it's like we, there's very little mention of that or concern about that element of this from the president. Well, that's I mean, in a way, that's the frustrating as protesters, like the largest issue is students asking for bad things to not happen elsewhere. Right. And also, I know that cynical sort of careerist, hypocritical politicians will use those protests as a means of saying, like, this is the problem. This is the problem. This is the problem, because it's immediate and in front of and sort of on the news,

not the thing that we are enabling by way of foreign policy. And I don't I never know what to do with that. I don't know what to do with that. It's frustrating. It's like you kind of have to, to a certain extent, ignore it and like, hope that it gets drowned out, because that's always going to be the case. There's always going to be this like this distraction used to to distract even more to point to like, oh, again, you know,

they've obviously written for years and years and years since the like dawn of time, college, college campuses or to whatever they called woke in the 1920s. Highfalutin. Exactly. These highfalutin libs on campus. But yeah, it's like it's always going to be used like that. And at a certain point, I'm just like over it and like tired. Like, I'm not even going to engage with this and argue because you're not here to argue.

We have all these like people going to protests being like, why are you here? Look it up. It's available. That information is available. There's no like mystery to why these protests are going on, but it's just used to dismiss from everything else. It is. And I want everybody to know that I agree completely with the things that are said. And I want everybody to know that I agree completely with the things that are said, and I recognize that. I'll just be honest to everyone, say that I struggle sometimes. I don't want to dismiss that there may be some incidents for certain students where things are heated and they feel uncomfortable in some capacity. And I'm tentative about even bringing this up

because I don't want to contribute to a narrative that is, you know, fall into a narrative that is meant to dismiss the protests. I am so 1000% behind them. And, but you know, I want to create space for the fact that I've, I do have friends, people on here have heard me reference conversations to people. I did it last week and this isn't somebody I'm talking about who is very bad faith in their arguments, but people who are

very pro Palestine and anti-Nezion Yahoo and what's happening and genuinely feel kind of scared with the stuff that they're seeing shared. And I think that that is also the media playing it up. You know, there was this one article I saw this morning in the LA times about, you know, you know, are you a Zionist checkpoints at UCLA, encampment provoked fear among Jews or whatever. And there's some dishonest framing in there. You know, I think that one of the students maybe was provoking,

but I don't, I don't know. I know. I, I just don't want to outright dismiss the fact that there might be some isolated, some incidents where things are getting carried too far. And in fact, the shit that's happening, us our leadership not engaging with the facts of the situation, gaslighting us, continuing to escalate this conflict, not doing anything to all of that does feed into anti-Semitic acts that we see happening, not just on campuses,

but around the world. And I don't want to pretend like anti-Semitism isn't real in some capacity. And I don't think our listeners do. I don't think our listeners do. I just think. I think like the frame because the framing is like taking these isolated incidents, right. And and saying like, look at this anti-Semitic protest because of this instance or, you know what I mean?

And I think we I think we can acknowledge that those incidents are bad. This is an issue that this is an issue. I have I have been to Palestine. I've been to Israel. This is an issue that I've I've been paying attention to since 2004 when I was young and and loud and I would say learning nuance. And and I do not doubt that there are people who are new to the issue

who don't know that they're getting information from clunky or bad sources and have some growing to do. And I don't doubt that there are people who understandably in particular situations feel threatened either just by way of the elevation of tension and just by way of the elevation of tension and just by way of the messiness of sometimes people are learning here. I think that everyone in this situation would be better served if administrations were like we hear there's an issue and we want to think about and engage this meaningfully and thoughtfully with you and not just like shut the fuck up. Because that is what shoves everything underground.

That is what makes things sort of feel more elevated. That is. But I absolutely have had wrongheaded in coming to maturity in my ideology. Have got have had wrongheaded ideas that were elementary because I was just learning when tensions are high and it's multiplied by that. It's it's problematic. But then conversely, what happens and I know that you're not saying that this isn't happening, Katie, I know you're acknowledging this is happening, but conversely what happens is then because there's that clumsiness, people

will take that and amplify it and be like, this is the whole thing. So we're all trying to be so careful in a nuanced and beautiful way of saying like, there are legitimate concerns about safety and sort of clunkiness, but there are also these amplifications of saying that the messiness is the whole thing. And that is enabled when administrations at schools try to address things by shutting it down. Exactly. That's perfectly said, you know, because I don't want them to stop. I'm proud of these students and I'm proud of everybody that will not accept this. I just also, all the things that you have said and I understand that some students on campus might be overwhelmed by this.

Yeah, we're attempting to have a shared language here, right? But of course, there are huge factions that don't agree what being anti-Zionist means, right? So, if we can't agree on just what these people stand for, even when they're standing, they're saying it. They have a leader who's saying, I'm the one who's talking to the media, I'm saying it. But of course, there's thousands of people there, they're college students, anyone can say whatever. So this LA Times article that you shared, Katie, that I read, I think it tried to do

a good job because it did talk to people in the pro-Palestine encampment who were willing to speak, but then it shared and it used as the basis for its article. Well, one person was called a Zionist from far away, but then buried in that article was, but then they went to go engage even though the people inside the encampment have been told not to engage with anyone from outside who wants to like debate them. And the stories that got told were of, oh, well, this person was just ignorant of the history and it ended up that they were, in fact, a Zionist.

Or this person didn't know about that. And it couched it in a way so as to, I think, dismiss what the what the encampment was there to do. Totally. Now, does that mean that someone didn't go up to this person and say, oh, Hamas was good? I'm not saying that. I'm not doubting their story. Yeah, that's the thing. There's I saw somebody tweeted.

Sorry. Referencing a tweet. But like so many journalists and media like publications are treating this not like an organized protest, like you're saying, with like speakers and like goals and this they're treating it like a music festival where like they just sort of go and they're like, Hey, you, I want to talk to you. Like, what do you think? And like, they just they're looking for these things to amplify and frame it in this way. And I'm sure, you know, so many don't mention like all the like the various attacks, like, you know, the at UCLA, there was like a bunch of violence from pro-Israel and like counter protesters who went there to like basically be violent. Yeah, outside agitators.

That did get a lot of coverage though. It did. And they mention it in this article. But like you wouldn't know after finishing it that like the only violence has been perpetrated by the outside people who came in to start something. And so when you read and you're like, okay, I've read this 1500 words or whatever it is. And then you're like, what were the actual examples of quote unquote anti-Semitism or what were the, what is the anti-Israeli invective that got like thrown at these people?

And you say, okay, there was some graffiti. Maybe I don't agree with that. Maybe they should have left Royce Hall alone. That's a nice sacred place to UCLA students. And then some unnamed people who we will never see or hear from maybe shouted something. One thing that stood out to me, which I don't know what's true or what's not, are people not being

allowed to cross into the library or something. Like, shit like that. right, they had to go around to get around the encampment. But I do think there's like a difference between what we have, we're closing off this area, this is the encampment area for the time being. So you go around, I do think is different than like, we are gating off. But I, but I agree, like, I might not like it. And it's and it's. Absolutely. I don't disagree with this. I write it's just like it's impossible to acknowledge. It's framed so much as like they're not letting Jewish people into the encampments. Like, that's not it.

And that's so much of like what I see. Yeah. Superpower and super flaw, which is I do. I fly maybe lying. No, sorry. Yeah, my flying. It's my biggest strength and weakness. No, I genuinely I can. Sounds like such a brag.

I have empathy. No, I understand people. I listen to I can understand unless you're like truly awful create. I can hear what you're saying and imagine coming from your perspective it doesn't change my perspective on what I want and so sometimes when I'm hearing all of this stuff I just want to acknowledge that this is a really messy complicated thing for a lot of people and that yeah well and I think frankly again frankly the thing that makes it messy and

complicated like I went to school I went to school, to college in a place where we talked. We had big uncomfortable conversations. We talked about shit like buildings got occupied. We did this sort of thing at all. It all happened. And it was uncomfortable for a lot of people. And I think that that was important. I do think that like a lot of the problems come from when an administrate

all this nuance is when an administration says that the way to handle this is to send a bunch of cops in. Yes. Yes. That is when things get. Because of discomfort, right? Because of discomfort, because of just because the safe space, because they don't for some reason, all this stuff has been happening on campuses in a heightened way for since the beginning of time and they still don't have a protocol for when this happens about bringing people together about sort of having like, I don't think that all of the nuance I think is extraordinarily important. It's important to think about where people are coming from.

I do understand different people feel uncomfortable for different reasons. I assume especially in sort of like with heightened anti-Semitism that comes from people on top of all this, in addition to all of this, who intentionally and willingly and willfully are using this to perpetuate particular like right wing stereotypes. Like there's all sorts of stuff that happens here. But the second that you start to deal with people who are making social demands by sending in a bunch of cops or shutting it down, you turn off what we're doing here and you make it an extremely black and white thing. Yeah, I agree. I agree.

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Do we want to? I think we should have some fun and talk about Christy Noem we solved everything else so now we can talk about Christy Noem's autobiography so South Dakota governor Christy Noem thinks she is going to be the vice president so So she released a book, her second autobiography, No Going Back, members of the press got advanced. Sorry, does she need to? No. She's had a very full life.

I now know two things that have happened in her life, one of which probably happened and the other which definitely didn't. Yeah, yeah. So the first thing that everyone was talking about once the press got advanced copies is this passage where she once killed her own dog. Cricket, who was 14 months old since it was aggressive, untrainable, attacked a neighbor's

chickens. She said Cricket behaved like a trained assassin. She also tells a story about killing a goat that smelled, but people haven't been at, I guess it's, we just consider it more reasonable in our society to kill a goat and not as much to kill. How'd that baby dog become untrainable? Also, well, real quick, wash the goat. Well, it was scaring the children.

It was mean to the children. It wasn't just smelly. Okay, it wasn't just dirty. Okay. Yeah, the untrainable is odd because dogs are trainable. And also her story seems to have slowly like morphed away from like, oh, it was untrainable and like, it was aggressive. And then at a certain point, she was like, no away from like, oh, it was untrainable and like, it was aggressive. And then at a certain point she was like, no, it like was attacking the kids or something.

It was threatening the children. Threatening the children, which is not what was in the book. A lot of animals threatening children in her orbit between the goat and the dog. Yeah. So this, so the idea, right? Was the idea here. The idea was to say, like rural, real Americans have to make hard choices sometimes like shooting puppies. And you can count on me.

And just this happened to be the one in only time someone tried to lower the bar and everyone was like, ah, there is still like, surprise. There's still a bar. Is that, is that what happened? Yeah. Well, cause also she does want to be the vice president. And Trump does have a long history of like saying like, shoot him like a dog fired him like a dog. Like he does, like, just rhetorically seem to have contempt for dogs. But yeah, it's like, like, shoot him like a dog, fired him like a dog. Like he does, like, just rhetorically seem to have contempt for dogs.

But yeah, it's like, yeah, I make tough decisions. I'm a real American out in the country and I shoot dogs or puppies in this case, and I throw them in a gravel pit. And I think it was just, yeah, this miscalculation of, oh, you don't. Want that exactly. You want like, oh, he was like this dog, it was old and like, or like, you know, like an old yeller situation. I even saw people being like, it's just like old yeller.

That is not like old yeller. This is not the same thing. It's funny because it is it seems like even the right wing is like, well, we can sacrifice this person for our fun, because Jesse Waters going after Stewart Varney on Fox Business is like, well, it's not a puppy that you killed. But that's kind of the interesting thing. Like you I'm sure you all have covered this over time, where it's like every once in a while.

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I thought the fact that she made up that she met Kim Jong-un and then appeared to admit that okay So she in the book it says I remember when I met with North Korean met Kim Jong-un and then appeared to admit that. OK, so she in the book, it says, I remember when I met with North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un, I'm sure he underestimated me, having no clue about my experience staring down little tyrants. I'd been a children's pastor after all. Then she's asked about this on Face the Nation and they're like, did you? We would have known about that. You didn't meet the dictator of North Korea, did you?

And she said, well, as soon as this was brought to my attention, I certainly made some changes and looked at this passage. As soon as it was brought to my attention, did you know, right? Right. It's like, are you not even pretending that you wrote the book or pretending that you read the book or pretending that you read the book before a bunch of copies were sent out. Like we all know that politicians have ghostwriters and stuff. Of course, he probably maybe she read it, but didn't expect people to react.

Give a shit. But also like here. At this point, you got to know as soon as it was brought to my attention, I made the changes about my lie that I that somebody else wrote in this. And you're going on a show to talk about this. Work on your phrasing ahead of time. Be able to know what you're going to say. Don't be like, yeah, I didn't know about it. And then somebody was like, hey, did you write this?

And I changed it like, no, prepare. She said she should have blamed an editor who cut the line, the phrase in my mind. I remember in my mind when I met some version where it's like, yeah, I wrote it. It was like a fantasy, like a section of the book or something like that. And they took out the premise. And so now it just reads as fact. She couldn't have even read the book. Like you're going out on a book tour.

I already know this story. I don't need to read it. It's so funny. The miscalculation also like just that, you know, because Trump, we'll see what happens with that guy. It really does seem like the only way to get rid of him is for him to die someday soon. Maybe I don't know, but he historically has pretty much gotten away with it all. Like if Trump wrote this in a book, he would handle it so fucking smoothly. He'd be like, yeah, I said it. I don't know. Okay. Like he was not,

he would brush it off and it would be fine. And I feel like so many people in the realm of politics, especially in the Republican party think that they have that juice and that ability to be Teflon in situations like this. And not everybody does, not most people do. And she certainly doesn't seem to. And it's just funny to see that sort of like, just like not a care in the world, like, oh, yeah, I'll write about how I shot my puppy. And I'll write about how I, my fantasy of meeting this dictator, and it's not working out. And it's just funny to see when that calculation really comes like comes back.

And it's like, no, you're not you're not this guy. A lot of these people were like, and I'm not giving Trump any credit. I need that to be clear. But like he was like forged in the fire of being a scumbag his whole life. Like he was like, he came from a family of scumbags and like that. And they do things a particular way and they operate by way of literal mob rule and they understand how he speaks scumbag. He knows it. And it's not just style. It's not his style and the things that he says. He kind of just like

he operates almost like sort of a mythic, like a mythic, like evil machine that just like walks through. Like, that's like what he does. He's always moved through the world in kind of a bubble. He's always. Yes. He has his method in tactics. They outrageously rich people tend to live in a different world than the rest of us. But add to it, his predisposition and his family and his background and experiences. He there is it is hard to take him down, but not everybody can rise to that. Christie is not Donald Trump.

Yeah, it's not like they think that it's his they think it's the things that he says or the ways that he says to say it. And he's so good at that, but it's not. And then when sometimes when they try to do it, they're like, oh, it's not going to work for me because I don't have the judge. Exactly. Yeah. He should brag during one of his speeches. He should be like, I could kill a dog and then, you know, like, he could.

And like, you'd be like, I would have shot. I would have shot the dog better. Fifth Avenue. I would have been better shooting that puppy and there'd be more puppies in that gravel pit if it were me and they'd be fucking on board with that. Anyway, she's canceled or she's been canceling a bunch of dates at the end of her book tour. He's never met Kim Jong-un. There are some people like, yeah, I guess he never met him.

I don't know. There are some people that genuinely don't think it's bad to shoot your dog. Well, that is it. And I'm not like again. I do know. I do know that. But like there was an interesting I think it was like in time where where they went to like go talk with sort of like dog specialists in rural America or whatever. And someone was like, yeah, like sometimes like in in rural situations, like people aren't going to take their dog to a vet.

They're going to shoot them. They're going to sort of do it in theoretically in a humane way. And the person was like, the thing that's weird to me, though, is no one who has to do that gleefully celebrates. Like it should be a completely difficult decision to make. Not because you're it's not like you're putting it on your campaign website. You know, it's like this tragic thing I had to do. Exactly. I guess maybe she's, you know, a hunting dog can't put in doesn't matter.

And just like train it better, Do better. Train it better. Train it better. What do you mean untrainable? Don't have to be a hunting dog or whatever the fuck. Anywho. Also as a bunch of people pointed out to like in terms of like rural living and like dogs and stuff, you're, you know, your dog, it's a hunting dog. It's trained to like, yeah, kill chickens and stuff. Well actually they want your hunting dog to not be destructive to the chickens Well, so here's the thing soft mouth on the chickens

I've seen a lot of people just sort of point out like if you have this dog Don't let the dog out near the chickens exactly like literally just like that's what I'm saying Don't just don't don't let it be there right And I've seen a lot of people who was like, no, I had a similar problem and I stopped letting it near the chicken. I didn't have to shoot the dog. Her ghostwriter must have. Taken a story about her going from South Dakota to North Dakota

and been like, but what if that was Korea? Is there a demilitarized zone that people meet in? He must have had this like great or she had this great concept for like an interesting life and added it. In there, why would the governor of South Dakota need to meet? Why? What would be the purpose? It's so funny. It's such a funny. Let alone that one.

Do you think she meant like him? Like, like, I haven't read the books. I don't know. It is pretty wild. It's pretty out there. Democratic People's Republic of Dakota. You know what else is wild? R.F.K. Junior having a literal brain worm. Apparently, Jonathan, what's happening?

Yeah. Alive or is it dead? Oh, the worm. The worms got to be dead. They don't live that long. And R.F.K. Jr. is alive. R.F.K. Jr. alive. Worm dead. Worm almost certainly existed. Worm doesn't eat brains. Anyway, here's the thing, though.

So a worm in somebody's brain is going to make that person say that the worm's. That's all that's true. That's right. That's exactly what a worm would say. Like is the worm puppeting him? I don't know. Like a crane. That's what I'm doing. Or like Yerkes. Probably Animorph fans and the listeners out there. Here's the levy before you know what. This are three. All right, go on. Here's the actual story so Robert F. Kennedy jr. Running for president independent doesn't matter he told the New York Times that in the early 2010s He was experiencing memory loss and mental fogginess Doctors thought he might have a brain tumor, but ultimately

One doctor and then I think more doctors this this article describes And I think more doctors, this article describes, settled on a dead parasite, a worm in his head. He says the mental fogginess is gone. The memory loss is gone. A bunch of experts that the Times talked to said, it's probably more likely that he would have had those symptoms from mercury poisoning, which he also had from eating tuna fish every day. He ate tuna and perch all the time, which are

mercury-rich fish and that could have caused the symptoms. They said a dead parasite in his head would have been unlikely to eat literal brain. Yeah, they don't really do that, right? They like, the goal is to like, live there and survive. And they think he, they, and again, these are people that haven't treated him. They They like, the goal is to like, live there and survive. And they think he they and again, these are people that haven't treated him. They just like read the story and they're like, well, it's probably this a pork tapeworm larva from eating undercooked pork and then the were made its way up into into the old noggin. Oh, horrendous. So he's just eating he's just eating undercooked pork and tuna, shoveling it into his mouth every day.

It's very sad because he has a lot of problems. While atrial fibrillation, he's got a lot of issues. He does not seem physically fit for the job, for the office. Well, he lifts a lot like you can see him. He does like these videos. I don't know. When you're lifting your stacks of paper from your desk. I don't know. He's like a decade younger than the other guys.

Yeah. But it's not good. Also, it's National Shrimp Day. I want to say that I did, reading about mercury poisoning, check it out. Shrimp, very low. Excellent. Perfect. Very low. Very, very low risk of eating too much shrimp and getting mercury poisoned. So everybody can just breathe a sigh of relief on National Shrimp Day. Eat more shrimp. Can I give a quick shrimp recipe, a very quick shrimp recipe to go with your to go with your shrimp desires? I mean, please cook them.

What if we're doing a defrosted shrimp? I'm just literally making defrosted shrimp. No, I'm telling you, I want to give you a recipe. I want to suggest this. What you do with that. You were asking, quizzing me. No, no, no, no. No, I want to I want to judge your shrimp.

I think it's the the the with the defrosted ones that you're talking about in the bag. You can do great things with them. You just put some oil in the pan, fry the shrimp until they're almost cooked. Put good like a like two tablespoons of good tomato paste. Finish some chopped garlic in there. Salt, pepper, stir it until it's good and then sprinkle a little cilantro on top. And then squeeze a full lime on there.

Delicious. Absolutely. That's so easy. That's a meal that I have just stand alone a lot of the time. I love that. I'm going to try that. A shrimp recipe from me to you. It's a I appreciate it so much. I just I'm putting it down. Happy Shrimp Day. Happy Shrimp Day to everyone.

I mean, honestly, everyone go make that shrimp and tag it on your socials. Go do it. Tag your brain worms on social. OK. Does anybody familiar with what happened to his voice? I'm not. I'm asking when we ask about his. That's a whole other thing. Oh, it's a condition. I forget what it's called. Spasmodic dysphonia. It's a lot of stuff he's been dealing with.

Yeah, he's just got a lot of ailments, which doesn't necessarily mean that he's he shouldn't be the president, but the short and long term memory seems to be not. It's those are all the memories. He does say that that's fixed, which is good. But maybe he forgot that it isn't. Yeah, it's one of the things where it's like you hear like, oh, short, short term memory loss and long term memory loss. And it's like, well, that's both of them.

Yeah, it's all the memory. Those are all the ones that you can have. So not great, but it's God, I don't know. Yeah, his positions on the issues are pretty clearly why he shouldn't be president and he won't be president. He'll say, Iiphon some votes. It appears from Trump more than Biden. If the polls are to be believed.

I think so, totally. If you're anti-vax, that would be your guy. I answered it as I was saying, you think? I was like, yeah. He'll pull from him more. Alicia Silverstone is a big fan of his, I think. So it's going to pull the Alicia Silverstone vote, which is a bummer. And a bunch of Trump votes.

Well, I mean, if you're talking brainworms, we should talk to somebody who feeds their kids like baby birds, right? Anyone remember that? Alicia Silverstone feeds her kids like baby birds. How dare you remind me of that? Yeah, sorry. I've never heard that. How dare you. Yeah, she like chews up the food and spits it in her mouth.

Hopefully she's moved on from that. Probably not worms, like really, like human food, but that's what she said, so. Very good way to connect all those things. I'm impressed. Oh, that's so gross to me. Yeah. Probably to the kids too. Poor children. Yeah. Yeah, you would imagine. Maybe not, they're used to it probably. It's the kids too. Poor children. Yeah. Yeah, you would imagine.

Maybe not. They're used to it probably. It's all they know. If all you know is Baby Bird, then you're fine with it. I think we maybe did it. I think we maybe arrived at the end of our show. What do you guys think? We could talk about the office reboot, but like... Oh, Cody wants to talk about the office reboot.

It's just silly. What? So, they're doing an office reboot. Well, they're not, but. But they're not. And the why is because TV's, they're, everyone's just struggling out there. Streamers, they're just struggling. They gotta have something. And they know that people love watching The Office

on their terrible app, by the way. I need to, an aside, Peacock of all the streaming apps, it is the worst one. Functionally, terrible. There goes our Peacock sponsorship. Peacock of all the streaming apps. It is the worst one functionally terrible. There goes our Peacock sponsorship. If you fix it, we'll sponsor and we'll say, look, they fixed it. Um, look how much they listened to their users anyway. Uh, so we could have the minions read an ad. That would be great.

I would love it. So this office reboot, I'll just, it's about allegedly a dying historic Midwestern newspaper and the publisher trying to revive it with volunteer reporters. First of all, you know, fine idea, I guess. I have maybe, we'll see how they portray it, but like volunteer reporters is like, what? And like, I don't know, kind of just like dismisses like the value of journalism a little bit.

Like, oh, just volunteer. I don't know. I don't know what they're gonna do with the show. Who knows? That's not the office reboot. No. That's a different show called the newspaper or something. The only connective tissue seems to be

that it's the same documentary crew following them. It's supposed to be in the same universe, but have nothing to do with the same camera people. Is it the is it the boom operator that tries to fuck Pam? Probably not, because you got fired. So it's just so they can say this is connected to the office. And then once a season, they can have Toby show up

or whatever. Like this great strangler just murders you. They can make some reference to it. They'll have someone show up and be like, oh, the thing we all liked. But hopefully this is a good show on its own. I mean, it's created by Greg, co-created by Greg Daniels, who created the U.S. version of The Office Starring Donal Gleason and Sabrina and Pachatorre. They're good

Could be good. It's just like they're they wanted to make a new show and Peacock was like is it The Office? He's like no, it's a different show and they're like, let's connect it to the office. Can it be the office? Only way to get it Right like sure why the fuck not? Let's put it in the office universe. If we if some more news was going to be and they'd be like, can Spider-Man be here? We'd say like, sure, if we can make the show and send it to hundreds of millions of people, Spider-Man can be the first. Let's do it. Yeah. Yeah. Who cares?

Yeah, it also implies like so like was Parks and Rec like a reboot of the office to is Abbott Elementary a reboot of The Office because they have offices at the school? It's just like an absurd thing to do. Did you guys see I'm only thinking about this because I'm accidentally wearing a Ric Flair shirt right now. Did you see the Ric Flair news? I can't believe I didn't introduce this to when you were asking for news. So Ric Flair, who I love, who I is, is as a human, a scumbag,

but as a character in wrestling, amazing. And he he had a viral what's it called? The Instagram post that was putting Paisano's pizza restaurant in Fort Lauderdale on blast, telling people not he just spent fifteen hundred dollars in cash at Paisanos, gave them a bunch of autographs. And then he was disappointed with them because he had to wait too long for a manager to use the bathroom.

So he came after Paisanos in Fort Lauderdale. And I love everything about that. I love that this man who's like in his 70s is using social media to turn people into restaurant called Paisanos. It turns out from management reporting or people who are related to management reporting that kind of not surprising. If you know anything about Ric Flair, he might have been the problem. Maybe that would be my guess. surprising if you know anything about Ric Flair. He might have been the problem. Maybe. Maybe he was.

He might have been someone to ask, like, what do you think someone spends $1500 on Paisanos is like, well, if I know Ric Flair, probably like 30 pitchers of beer. So I think that maybe that had something to do with it. Maybe the joke with this is that everyone was sharing this with like a Tim Robinson character above it, because the way this is that everyone was sharing this with like a Tim Robinson character above it, because the way this is phrased sounds like a Tim Robinson character is like yelling it to camera. Like he's bought an ad, like I spent fifteen hundred dollars at Paisano's.

Something that is perplexing about Ric Flair is his his like typed out narrative is every every word, every like it's like a headline. Like every the beginning of every word is capitalized, but not the whole word. So he has to put in so much effort to capitalize every word. Right. It's not natural because you're not getting the caps lock. You just have to capitalize every the beginning of every word. Oh, my God. This tweet is incredible. Can you read the title of I'm curious to read texts like this? Oh my god, this tweet is incredible

The tweet just so everyone has context and then we can Stop this I spent $1,500 SFP to be disrespected more than I ever have in my entire life after taking 20 pictures with customers and stuff I was asked to leave because of an issue I had with the kitchen manager taking too long in the bathroom I would recommend that anyone who wants to enjoy a relaxing time in Gainesville at a nice restaurant to never visit this place Whoo? Wild incredible Kitchen manager taking Dude

Like what how do you think that that interaction played out? Do we in there, man? An issue I had with the kitchen manager taking too long in the bathroom is an incredible phrase. The kitchen manager having the worst night of their life because they're just like they're in intense guttural pain. And then Ric Flair is yelling at you. Right. And now we know. He should put this on a shirt and sell it as merch.

He totally should. Yeah. Can we put this on a shirt? It's not a merch. Let's look into it. Any lawyers out there confirm that we can take Rick Flair's tweet and put it on a shirt. Just take out Paisanos and put it in the name of the show. I spent $1500 at even more notes to be disrespected. I spent $1500 at being disrespected.

Actually, that's fun. There is a community note proposed on this tweet. I am in the community notes community. The proposed note says a video has come to light show Ric Flair being drunk, disorderly and abusive to staff, including offering a waitress $1,000 to tell the manager to kiss Rick's ass. He was asked to leave multiple times. Okay. At the back of the shirt should have the community note. I'm going to rate, I'm going to rate that note as helpful.

The way some of these community notes are phrased is so funny. So good. Thank you for reading it. It really brought me joy. This was fun. Thank you for bringing this to our attention as a fun little treat at the end of this episode. And now I want to go eat at Paisano's to be honest. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

Be very nice to their staff. They deserve that. Oh, that'd be so nice. And honestly, I'll let everybody go ahead and be in line because I'm chill like that, even though I always have to pee. Bring a bag of shrimp. Shrimp for everybody Pizano's PIE sano, so it's like pizza pie, but also pies on us

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