Some More News - Even More Q's – Holiday Edition!

Episode Date: December 23, 2022

Another Even More Q's is here! Katy and Cody give A's to your Q's about holiday food, music, traditions, and explore what Nightmare Before Christmas-style holiday towns they'd lik...e to visit. Plus, they respond to a question regarding if they've been too hard on Biden. We're off for the next few weeks, so Happy Holidays, Happy New Year, and we'll see you in 2023! Please fill out our SURVEY: https://kastmedia.com/survey/ Support us on our PATREON: http://patreon.com/somemorenews Check out our MERCH STORE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/somemorenews?ref_id=9949 SUBSCRIBE to SOME MORE NEWS: https://tinyurl.com/ybfx89rh   Subscribe to the Even More News and SMN audio podcasts here: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/some-more-news/id1364825229 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ebqegozpFt9hY2WJ7TDiA?si=5keGjCe5SxejFN1XkQlZ3w&dl_branch=1 Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/even-more-news  Follow us on social media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/SomeMoreNews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/SomeMoreNews/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SomeMoreNews/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somemorenews  Athletic Greens is going to give you an immune-supporting FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase if you visit https://athleticgreens.com/morenews today.Support the show!: http://patreon.com.com/somemorenewsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 hello friends hi welcome back to even more cues this space for yous. Toos. Be woo us with your question. Yeah, to be woo us with your question. I'm Katie. Hi, Katie. I'm Cody. Hi, Cody. So nice to meet you. Oh, it's so nice to meet you too.
Starting point is 00:00:37 And Jonathan. Hello, Jonathan. Hello, Katie and Cody. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too. Hello. We had such a nice conversation going for a solid half hour before actually hitting record. Second we hit record, stilted, awkward.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Oh, I disagree. I think this is going well. Yeah, you do? It's naturally flowing of the words. Naturally flowing of the words. That's how we do it here folks we have questions posted by you guys and we're going to answer them as we've done before and we will continue to do in the future as well and we will unless this one goes disastrously i guess something awful happens
Starting point is 00:01:17 what oh geez we're not even entertaining that thought i mean i am. What if it's a disaster? What if the computer explodes? Katie, what if the computer explodes? I'd get a new one. Good. You'll need it. See, you're a practical problem solver. Yeah. You guys, I got something to tell you. What?
Starting point is 00:01:40 I have the cues and I'm ready to read them to you oh there it is it's back every week you should say it every single episode
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Starting point is 00:02:28 Questions. Questions? Okay, go. Okay. Okay. Crisis asks, what is the most memorable Christmas gift you ever received? Okay. Well, I'm just jumping right in here.
Starting point is 00:02:42 You said, okay, go. No, it was good. So I'm doing this while jumping around on treadmills Sorry go ahead Thank you please I was looking for a way for my I was trying to find a okay go pun And I lost it I never had it But I did have an immediate answer to this question
Starting point is 00:03:00 Christmas has always been a big deal In my family My grandma was born on christmas so we always celebrated she grew up celebrating christmas eve is a big thing my mom grew up with it special magical she goes above and beyond when especially when there's like kids around and you know she would get really crafty whatever she could so she she found this like old doll house and she refurbished it when i was a little girl and she made it all sweet and cute and she bought tons of little you know we used to do that we'd go to like little stores and find thrift stores and
Starting point is 00:03:36 find old miniatures and stuff it was a fun project for us to do together and so she found this beautiful old like looked like the gone with the wind plantation kind of like this, this thing. And she painted it fresh and she strung those tiny little white lights all around it to make it all looked at lit up for Christmas. And so when I came down in that morning and I was maybe five, it was so magical because it was still kind of dark out and she had already lit the fire. She really knew how to create a vibe, man. She still does. She out and she had already lit the fire she really knew how to create a vibe man she still does she's she's still with us anyway that's my answer that's lovely yeah my answer is less lovely i don't know i shouldn't have gone first uh no it's not uh well so i mean i feel like there's probably like a year where like my siblings and i got like aquanaut legos and it was
Starting point is 00:04:25 like oh we're gonna this is our our play time and we would fill the room with them and make little towns and stuff so that's always fun because it was less like oh i got this gift and it was more like oh this activity with my family was like that's why i like we don't do we're not like big on gift stuff it's more just well see the activity time that's actually much better right i mean that well it's that i mean that's i mean the other side of this is like there was we'd be a little spoiled by it you know it was so fun for the adults but like then there's the the meltdowns and you lose sight it took you know it you have to get a little bit older to gain the perspective of what the holiday is actually about and what actually is important.
Starting point is 00:05:07 So to me, gifts have become the center spotlight. And we live in this consumerist society that really pushes the idea of Christmas. And like it can be stressful. The best gifts should just be thoughtful or small. And the best gift is spending time with your family. No, that's not what i was trying to say it's nice that you have a cute little story about like a thing like it's it's a magical moment that you had i just like don't have you know that that sort of relationship with the holiday necessarily although i was gonna say that like a memorable like not
Starting point is 00:05:42 like oh this like moment in christmas or like this activity winter this sort of trip or experience uh was from your mother um who uh my first christmas there i'd like i think i just met them i don't know yeah yeah right it was uh and uh she got me a PS3, and it was like... Well... It was like a used PS3 from your nephew, right? Yeah. Is what you were going to say. I mean, I'm not trying to detract from that. I just want to clarify that she didn't... But that's...
Starting point is 00:06:14 Yeah, no, I'm not saying, oh, she bought me a... But it was still just like... I was not expecting anything near that. I was like, I'm going to hear... This is actually a little bit sweeter story than that which is that my mom says aiden and i aiden is my nephew my little nephew goes aiden and i were thinking maybe we we should give cody his old ps3 and that's what's extra touching it was it was
Starting point is 00:06:42 like it really touched me it was uh it was like so thoughtful and it was overwhelming when i received it at the time because i was just like not expecting anything like that and it made me feel very welcome and loved and i really mission accomplished yeah no she really likes it it's like yeah we we get caught up in some consumerism culturally in my family around Christmas time. But it really is done with love, you know, first and foremost. And there's a lot of gratitude. Yeah, I wasn't like clamoring for a PS3. No, of course you were.
Starting point is 00:07:18 The idea and the thought of it was like, it very, very strongly touched me. Oh, I'm going to tell her you said that uh please do also come visit i was gonna invite you to thanksgiving but you've got plans that's nice yeah you guys thank you though i appreciate it sure i gotta i gotta make my going out to the to ohio for christmas yay oh yeah i said i said it like miserably, but like, no, I look forward to it greatly. No, but I'll add context without giving too much information, which is just I know that you have had some hellish Christmas. Oh, God. Like, yeah, unbelievably bad luck, diversions and delays and hotels and missing, not missing flights, but canceled flights.
Starting point is 00:08:07 And it's always a slog. And not being able to get on flights that weren't canceled. It was hell. Last year was hell. This year will be probably smoother. All right. Another question. Another question.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Marissa Lopez asks, which holiday songs make you the happiest? Mmm. Mmm. Love. asks, which holiday songs make you the happiest? Love. Honestly, it's hard to go wrong with All I Want for Christmas is You. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And Simply Having a Wonderful Christmas Time. What are some other good ones? I think we differ on that, but... What? Oh, on Simply Having a Wonderful Christmas Time. You don't like it? We'll get to that. I think there is a question about that.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I'll ask that sub-question after you after you say let's put a pin in that one yeah all i want for christmas is you i think is uh still like i know people like oh not just is playing everywhere and in october no it's awesome it's kicks ass it's like i honestly think it's appropriate any time of the year uh it uses the christmas chord effectively it's got all kinds of stuff going on and i think i i didn't really like the classics i think like you know like a silent night is beautiful um and what you got haunting uh yeah you got white christmas uh there's another one so i'm gonna get i'm gonna throw out of wait what was the exact wording of this question i'm not seeing it right now which holiday songs make you the happiest?
Starting point is 00:09:25 So the happiest. That's the thing. Okay. I'm going to elaborate here. Lots of Christmas music. Good Christmas music is special because it evokes deep feelings and nostalgia. And, you know, on Christmas Eve. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I like A Silent Night. I like that. I like any of those more morose ones. Beautiful, reflective. But for this season, I did a little sassy snap. I want something that's pepping me up. That's carrying me through present wrapping. That's like, we got holiday parties.
Starting point is 00:09:58 We're going out. Then you gotta put on Mannheim Steamroller performing all the classic holiday songs. There we go. You gotta get fucking amped. Bob Dylan must be Santa. Rocking around the Christmas tree. Come on. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:13 In my head, you're dancing around. Absolutely. In fact, I should just... Maybe I'll film that as my Patreon bonus. I'll do a Christmas dance for you guys. Give the people what they want. Well, because rocking around the Christmas tree makes me think of Home Alone.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Yeah. Because that's where he dances with all of the posters and dolls and everything. Yeah. A lot of my life choices have been modeled after Kevin McAllister. I don't know. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. The map.
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Starting point is 00:12:07 dig your fingies in my pain fingies so that sub question was from Dan Benningfield wonderful Christmas time by Paul McCartney or happy Christmas war is over by John Lennon so like we got into this a little bit at the shoot this week.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Happy Christmas War is Over. Happy Xmas actually. Yeah that's what I typed. Okay. Just making sure. I'll change it on the top. So I'm gonna just read this out loud before we have this conversation. The lyrics to Merry Xmas
Starting point is 00:12:43 parentheses War is Over by our buddy i love john lennon favorite beetle for sure except for some of the abuse stuff um but here are the lyrics to happy xmas war is over so this is christmas and what have you done another year over. Another one just begun. And so this is Christmas. I hope you have fun. Well, if you read it like that. Simply happy. A wonderful Christmas time. It's too much. It's a little too much.
Starting point is 00:13:17 A very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Let's hope it's a good one without any fear. If you read it like. No, you're right. It's on the performance. I can If you're reading like, Merry Christmas. I can give that. And so this is Christmas. It's not a bad song.
Starting point is 00:13:30 I like it. I'm honestly just picking a hill to die on right now, but it just doesn't actually get in and feel like a Christmas song. Totally, I understand that. It feels like a protest song or something. And not that it's bad. I understand.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Not that it's bad. Yeah understand. Not that it's bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is Christmas. What have you done? So this is Christmas. Yeah, you know, there's definitely a tone that... Like, out of the gate. You're starting with that.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Or, or, alternatively, so this is Christmas. You know, like, that's nice. That's a nice little... What have you done? Like, so, what have you done? that's nice that's a nice little like so this is what have you done another year over and the new one just begun you know yeah the song is like merry christ also if merry xmas war is over yeah i know um i think it's i mean personally like i definitely understand what you're saying and it it definitely feels like, all right, this is like a little bit like of a downer. Let's hope it's a good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:29 But I also find simply having A Wonderful Christmas Time a bit obnoxious. And I know that's like a boring opinion to have about the song, but I still think so about it. I guess I shouldn't have said that it's a favorite because it gets old very fast and then you hear it everywhere. So I'll give you that. Also, the thing about Paul McCartney is that he's a corny fella, chap.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Sorry. Lad, he's a corny lad. He's a corny lad. And Christmas music is a a corny lad he's a corny lad and christmas music is a little corny so it does feel like the format was made for him does that make sense oh yeah no totally a spot for him to shine yeah it's like uh like we're talking you know ringo uh i think he's at his best when he's like novelty songs and like country songs right he? He's got the voice for it. Just do that.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And Paul similarly, although Paul obviously has a much wider range of songwriting ability and performance ability. But yeah, he's corny. He's going to do his little granny music, as John called it. You know, his like Martha, my dears, his his honey pies and so on. Martha, my dear. That kind of stuff stuff what a forgettable exactly so that problem i know it's frustrating because it's like obla de obla da is a catchy song that i like but it's tough because you sing along and you're saying
Starting point is 00:15:58 obla de obla da well that's the thing you know that's also you know that's uh mostly that's often where he shines yeah some jibber stuff or like just this phrase over and over simply having a wonderful christmas time although i will say a great kids album oh yeah uh he should do a kids album with the movie giants who have done several kids albums someone um get paul and they might be giants together for us. Do it. Did George ever do a Christmas thing? Oh, I don't know if he did. Got my mind set on you is about Santa.
Starting point is 00:16:37 It's going to take a lot of money to get all those gifts. Ding dong, ding dong. To do it right. Ding dong, ding dong. All right, we got to play it. Ring out the old, ring the new, and so on. Although I will say, so like, if you're, you know, to your point about War is Over, you know, you could do the same for Wonderful Christmas Time. You can do, oh, the mood is right.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Oh, the spirit's up. Let's see. Oh, we're here tonight. And that's enough. That's so fucking different. I know. That's so different. I just, I just don't know that war needs to be mentioned in any Christmas song.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Well, you know. Let alone in the title. I mean, aren't there other Christmas songs about war? Or are these Christmas songs that are associated with war? The War on Christmas? No, I think I'm just thinking of old stories about Silent Night being sung during Christmas time in war.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Yeah, I'm sure that they sang it back and forth. I'm sure people sung Christmas songs through a great many tragic events as long as the tragic events aren't mentioned in the songs. Yeah. Okay, let's do another question uh let's bounce to some food stuff what is your go-to holiday celebration meal meal uh that's
Starting point is 00:17:57 tough i think there's a lot of ways to take that um yeah there are a lot of ways well so like for my family would always do uh like a ham for christmas dinner usually that was like one of the meals um and i don't i haven't eaten like pig pork products probably for like eight years or so so that's not in the cards for me anymore and a lot of like yeah just like family recipe stuff there's like lasagna that's made and things like that. But again, I'm always I always sort of come back to like, I don't know, whatever we eat together during that time. That's what makes the Christmas time feeling. Although now I get a hankering for a shrimp cocktail.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Yeah. During Christmas time when I'm with family. And so now pretty much every single time my sister and I will get, specifically go to the grocery store to get wine and shrimp cocktail. Yeah, that's all. There you go. That's the one.
Starting point is 00:18:52 So there you go. Yeah. Katie, before you answer, I want to add some other food related questions in this so you can hit them all at once. First of all, that first question was from Draylon Dragon Fox. I didn't say.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And then they also ask eggnog, yes or no? And then Andrew Stanworthy asks, what's your favorite Thanksgiving side dish? And I figured you could just add holiday side dishes to all of this. Yeah. All right. This is a lot of ground to cover.
Starting point is 00:19:16 First off, go-to holiday celebration meal. Gosh, just singing my mother's praises. My mom had a catering company for my whole life and uh so she another thing just events we all she likes to put on a but it would change yeah so like she would try do this special change the menu for the holiday party we would always have every year with our close family friends and their kids and whatnot. But what stands out to me, okay, first, sugar cookies. Sugar cookies dipped in white chocolate. You know, that is a staple.
Starting point is 00:19:55 But on Christmas morning, she always makes frittata and mimosas and hot chocolate. And we just have. And she usually gets like cinnamon rolls too. And so you have this like pretty cozy decadent breakfast while you're opening your stockings and stuff. That's nice. Oh my god. It makes a specific French toast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:19 In the morning as well. It's delicious. And my mom has like, you know, the Christmas cookies. Every. Like everybody has those. Yeah. Little treats.og i've never had eggnog i'll try it sometime i don't think i have either um i had a little bit of a type liqueur mixer sort of thing recently which was fine and like a hot chocolatey deal yeah yeah yeah like a pump of syrup or something yeah but like i haven't uh it was like a bottle like with like it's like alcoholic sort of eggnoggy kind of thing but
Starting point is 00:20:48 i've never had like there's a glass of eggnog because a egg is in the name the name and the concept that i'm basing off of the name they have alcohol. It's disgusting to me. You can get it with or without Yeah, you can put alcohol. Yeah, you can put you can put Alcohol in anything there. I have to pick something name something name anything salad. You can put alcohol in salad. Okay, you can Tell me you can't I mean You're gonna eat your alcohol or dip it and like a like a dressing What you know you need dressing? Boozy vinaigrette exactly favorite Thanksgiving side dish Islamic vinaigrette I I think my favorite Thanksgiving side dish Is probably stuffing hmm or mashed potatoes?
Starting point is 00:21:42 Or mushroom gravy I don't eat normal normal gravy but all of them together is the perfect bite but fuck yeah something like that i don't know i'm not like i i always enjoy like thanksgiving meal stuff but it's not like i'm never like oh fuck yeah we got this we got that we got the mash we got this stuff like it's not like there's nothing about uh any specific like traditionally thanksgiving style food that i'm like i fucking love this shit um cranberry sauce is pretty good i will say you cody all right um said like a lot you don't want schitt's creek you david no i don't know what you're talking about. Also, I had something else to say, and then it left my mind
Starting point is 00:22:28 because now I'm just thinking about Schitt's Creek, a show I've never seen. Yeah. Now I'm thinking about trying to do a Jennifer Coolidge impression, which has nothing to do
Starting point is 00:22:37 with Schitt's Creek, but... All right, I'm going to move on to the next question, but if you think of it, shout it out. You got it. Just shout it out. Hell yeah. Bingo Frog asks, but if you think of it, shout it out. Just shout it out.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Bingo Frog asks, in the nightmare before Christmas, we see several trees with doorways into various holiday worlds. The movie only takes us inside Christmas and Halloween worlds, but there are also doors for Easter, Thanksgiving, Fourth of July, St. Patrick's, and Valentine's. Which of these holiday worlds would you most like to visit?
Starting point is 00:23:03 That's a good question i got two answers because i think valentine's day would be very interesting and probably extremely horny and i'm curious what the representation of that would be but also so there's like rules that i think would need to be defined to really answer this effectively because like thanksgiving obviously is a holiday uh built on genocide and you know we know thanksgiving but the idea behind thanksgiving that we say that it is is like a wonderful idea you're grateful uh you share you share that gratitude you share you share food with everybody in your life and like the idea of it is very nice so like maybe the expression of that through this door would only be that or would it include like you know does it like does it does it incorporate the
Starting point is 00:23:58 the start of the holiday does it incorporate all all the history of the holiday does the Christmas world incorporate? You know is is the net is like the official drink of that? world coca-cola You know is it like it they never they ever get into that so it's hard It's a little hard to answer. I think but I would say Thanksgiving or Valentine's Day for the horniness I'd go Valentine's Day or maybe some st. Patrick's yeah day um for the horniness i'd go valentine's day or maybe some saint patrick's yeah but also valentine's day is mostly love it is like love based so might not be horny at all it might just be like a very romantic place and that might be nauseating uh if it's too much flag day is just a
Starting point is 00:24:36 mega rally that's the thing there's like flag day like oh like saint patrick's day sounds like hell uh fourth of july sounds like hell although there's Day sounds like hell. Fourth of July sounds like hell. Although, there's some words, like Fourth of July could be really fun because it's like just chaos. But then again, it's like after, you know, 20 minutes, maybe you're going to get exploded. Easter could be cool. Arbor Day would be nice. Just a bunch of, like, that would be very calming, probably. Earth Day would be like Avatar.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Planting trees, yeah. National Sibling Day. So your siblings, everybody or just you celebrate your siblings. National Pet Day. National Pet Day. If we're talking there have to be different towns for all of the holidays that we talk about on this show. Then you just go into
Starting point is 00:25:20 you go through a door and a tree in a forest and it's just Vichyssoise all over the place. Vichyssoise Day. National Pumpkin Pie pie day i really don't want this i don't want no one wants that we don't need a a leak soup a cold leak soup but well i think i think i do want to adjust my answer to say i think arbor day or earth day because i think that would be very relaxing and beautiful all right hopefully again it's like i don't know the rules exactly of the doors, like what's being expressed, what's being suppressed. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:50 They need to make a sequel and really explore it. Explore this. Dig into that. Make a really make a really bad premise that nobody actually watches. Julie Scott asks if your parents have questionable morals, but you don't want to get cut out of the will because then all the generational wealth will go to your kiss up sister. No. No. You're fine.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I mean, if that's dependent on you not disagreeing with them or like being you know true to yourself then like fuck it do we gotta do yeah my perspective is is like well also so i mean this is obviously like you know doesn't mean you're a bad person and also i don't know what questionable morals means you know there are some definitions and some details that i think would help elucidate this a bit they're still your parents they're still your parents but like you know if if like they're like requiring their children to suck up to them for their inheritance like i don't know there's a certain amount of this is like phrased funny and we had our initial reactions but there's a certain amount of reading between the lines and like making an a guess as to what your situation is and you know if it matters to
Starting point is 00:27:11 your parents so much that you follow their will or agree with them on everything so much that they would cut you out of uh their will something that we all recognize is something, you know, is a very helpful thing. Navigating the world that's coming. You know, I don't personally see there. There's anything wrong with making a choice that suits you. However, also they're your parents and you probably love them.
Starting point is 00:27:40 And that doesn't make you a bad person. Having parents that have questionable morals, doesn't make you a bad person. Having parents that have questionable morals doesn't make you a bad person. Are those questionable morals leaking into what you do? Is it smiling and nodding or is it like, well, they're requiring you
Starting point is 00:27:55 to do this terrible action that hurts people? Is the smiling and nodding hurting anybody? It does, I think, depend on what questionable morals. Oh, wait wait they're asking for a friend so it's not them well their friend is like one of the characters in succession i think yeah right it's gonna all go to shiv i can't let that happen and it's like yeah logan roy does have questionable morals that is one way to say it yeah right right yeah it's also like what do you plan on doing with uh inherit the inheritance and the generational wealth like that's another question apes aplenty asks you guys rag on
Starting point is 00:28:31 biden a lot despite him passing a lot of progressive policies that even obama couldn't or wouldn't do what would biden have to do to be considered worth voting for in 2024 retire run against a republican run against a republican yeah you know i mean worth voting is another phrase i'm like well what do you mean worth voting for uh i think it's worth voting for somebody uh if the other guy's worse yeah um and i think you know uh maybe not so much on the podcast um maybe we focus on other things but like on like some more news i feel like we do try to give him credit when it's due and talk about things that he's done or his administration is moving towards uh while also you know with a grain of salt kind of thing
Starting point is 00:29:16 their elements like even like the the weed uh news recently it's like oh that's really cool that's good it's good that that's a move but also knowing like it doesn't actually affect a lot of people and it's not you know um affecting like illegal immigrants and things like that and uh the number of people that actually helps is uh low compared to what he could be doing then things like that i think it's important to give context and you know a measured uh read of it just because a lot of stuff also turns out to not be as spectacular as it seems on the surface but i do think we we do try to give him credit where it's due um and acknowledge like even in our episode about like when we talk about like drone strikes
Starting point is 00:30:00 we're like well yeah the number's down it's weird that he's not bragging about that and he's not like making it a thing of like you know we're reducing the number of drone strikes because that to me tells me that maybe he doesn't think it's like necessarily like something something to brag about but like you know i don't know so like acknowledging that that's the case but yeah so this is interesting question i think rag rag on Biden is also it. We have to be able to acknowledge and call out the things that we don't like. You know, point taken. I do think we try to.
Starting point is 00:30:37 But I think in terms of like what he could do to make it worth it again, like worth it is like, well, I don't know what's worth it. Is it worth it to make sure the other guy doesn't win? Is worth it to you know do what promises is he making you know um what is his 2024 campaign based off of is it just is it like moving forward with things we've been doing is it like so you know i don't know like you said there's a lot of stuff that he's done that on paper at first blush are good but then when you look at it a little bit closer, you're like, oh, that was mostly just, you know, flourish or something like, you know, with with the weed convictions. And right now, you know, I personally as excited as I am about student loan debt relief. I kind of feel like there was a missed opportunity for a bigger conversation.
Starting point is 00:31:24 And right now that's held up you know and i i think that that my it's not that i think biden is um doing everything wrong it's that i'm i think somebody else could have done things better and i think that he is he feels like a vulnerable candidate still to me, because what I hear and see is frustration with him on all sides. I don't think that we made progress in the midterms in the way that we did because of Biden. I think we did that, you know, irregardless of Biden. Yeah, it's kind of in spite of that. And that the stuff that's happening, the gestures are kind of because people have been pushing and asking for these kinds of things and because he knows that he has to play to a certain side of this base
Starting point is 00:32:13 in order to keep us, just to keep us, you know? But it does kind of feel like the bare minimum to me, and maybe that's not fair. But again, I'm not saying he's terrible. And like Cody said, I mean, like, the worst. He's not fair. But again, I'm not saying he's terrible. And like Cody said, I mean, like the worst, he's not Donald Trump. And so what would he have to do to be considered worth voting for in 2024? Be the candidate that I have to vote for. You know, I mean, and I don't think it's quite fair.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I think that we can we can make jokes on the podcast and stuff. But you're right. And maybe we can be more mindful of that but i don't know that we're that unfair especially if you look at the the scope of our work and not between the channel as well you know we give him credit where it's due i mean even the most recent episode that went up there's a whole like the last third of it is about his administration and their sort of antitrust moves. But I also just want to say that just about any politician or president, I don't like even if Bernie Sanders was president, I think it would be very important for us to have these kinds of conversations because. I mean, even when Bernie Sanders is president. When. But I just don't think that we should ever trust them completely.
Starting point is 00:33:26 And they will always do things that we don't necessarily agree with yeah of course end of answer uh let's end on a another holiday one and it's kind of open-ended so gretchen hints asks what's your favorite holiday traditions good question i will simply start talking and hope that i land on something because uh who doesn't love the holidays and traditions i just kind of feel like i've set them all oh yeah we i feel like we have covered some of them um and yeah it's like certain meals certain um i guess get together activities um i don't know like when when i'm with my family for the holidays it's not necessarily like yeah they're like places we'll go to like oh we'll go to get um a burger from like this restaurant we like or whatever but um it's mostly just like yeah we put
Starting point is 00:34:17 on music and we hang out all day maybe there's like the you know let's watch this movie we used to watch or something like that for example i was talking about this last night, the Christmas toy, I believe is what it's called. I don't know if anyone knows this, but or of this or like many people do. It's a Jim Henson movie from the 80s, and it's basically Toy Story. It is toys come alive when you're not in the room with them when you uh leave the room they come to life when you enter the room they like play they play toy sounds cute it's it's very cute um and then the children in the story who don't really see much of are uh they get a there's a new toy and it's like a space toy it's like a like a perceived to be evil space toy
Starting point is 00:35:06 and they have to deal with that crisis of like uh getting along with it and teaching it that it's a toy and all this sort of stuff it's just toy story um but it's uh it's jim henson and it's cute um yeah i don't know like we'll watch to watch put things on watch home movies sometimes not the show uh but like the thing the home movies of the family but yeah it's mostly just uh a lot of being in the same space together and going on walks and stuff like that the christmas toy is on uh prime video and canopy if anyone's interested i have not watched it since i was a little kid so you you do know. I have seen this, yes. Okay. Yeah, it's
Starting point is 00:35:47 cute. The little mouse. Feels like Toy Story kind of ripped off a story about toys. No question. And improved on it. Toy Story is great. Great film. Movie, whatever you want to call it. But it definitely is just this
Starting point is 00:36:03 movie. Well, I'll have to check that one out. Woody is Rugby the Tiger. Also, Kermit introduces it. Hmm. In a little Santa hat. I think that sounds really fun. It is. My favorite tradition...
Starting point is 00:36:17 I don't know. I like... That's it. End of answer. I mean, I definitely like holiday parties with friends. Just in general, that's the End of answer. I mean, I definitely like holiday parties with friends. There's just, in general, that's the season of that, of just, you know. But I think in terms of my family and Christmas specifically, when we were still in the Bay Area, you know, there's areas that have Christmas tree lanes.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Your cities might have similar things. LA does too, but that would be a fun thing with my family or even just driving around the rich people's neighborhoods and seeing what lights they put up on their mansions. And then we'd talk shit. That's tacky. All that money and you did that with it?
Starting point is 00:36:59 You know? I look forward to that. That is fun. Yeah, that is fun. OK, that is it for us this month. Even more cues. Holiday edition. We love you so very much. Much.
Starting point is 00:37:15 So grateful for your support for the community you built. I am going to do something serious right now, Cody, which is with everything that's going on. You may continue. I like spooked a sneeze out of you. Just with everything that's going on and Twitter and like, it's, I feel like comforted knowing that there's this community of people here
Starting point is 00:37:42 that, you know, shares our shares our values yeah it's awesome uh i i was thinking about that uh sort of last night like i don't think twitter's like dead or whatever we know that's a whole other conversation um but seeing sort of this outpouring was really it's kind of neat and just thinking like well if it does if it is dead which is not that would be sad um i everybody uh it's nice to have in the community of like pals and stuff with their little our little jokes online you know and their little jokes and facts yeah uh i agree with you completely you do my point yeah okay i think that does it for us today on this holiday edition of Even More Cues.
Starting point is 00:38:26 We're going to dip out for a bit. Spend some time with the fam. Malie. Malie, even. And we're going to be back in a couple weeks. Weeks. I hope you have a happy holiday, however you celebrate it. Happy holiday, however you celebrate it. And please remember that we love you very much.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Much.

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