Some More News - Heat Records, Twitter Clones, and EVEN MORE Umbrella Covers

Episode Date: July 7, 2023

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Hello and welcome back to even more news, the first and only news podcast. My name is Katie Stoll. That's right, it is. Welcome, welcome, welcome to, to, to the thing, thing, thing that Katie, Katie, Katie just said, said, said. We have cars racing, racing, racing around the track. Hi, I'm Cody. I don't know what's going on. I do feel like you've done that before. I know that I have.

Maybe we should take suggestions for opening the show. You know no i take it back we're not doing that oh no guests today but jonathan's here and we love it i'm always here i always love it well except for those except for when you were gone months you left us for your baby. You're growing a child. I loved that too. Your cute child. I listened to the episodes. Oh, he was here the whole time. Over a span of five days, I listened to all the episodes. Okay.

So, yeah. Holidays. We have them. Oh, my gosh. Holidays. We always do. July 6th. Happy 4th of July.

Happy. Oh, yeah. That happened. The day it happened. You know what? Before we talk about holidays, I. We always do. July 6th. Happy 4th of July. Happy. Oh yeah, that happened. The day it happened. You know what? Before we talk about holidays, I just want to say, well, this is regarding holidays. Oh, so in addition to. But we're talking about the real ones, the heavy hitters, you know, the holidays that

we. The big boys. Yeah. That suck up all the holiday attention. I don't think they should happen midweek. I don't think it should be where you work a day and then you have a day off. What do you suggest is the solution, though?

Because the date is just... All holidays are on, I know. I mean, it's right there in the name of the holiday. It says the date and it's going to change, right? But this year, the 4th of July. It's year the 4th of July. It's not like the Sunday of July. It's not, you know. This year our national holiday for the 4th

is July 7th. Whatever. However it works. I'm not going to die on that hill. So you just think, just like rebrand, like no 4th of July. We're not saying the date. It's Independence Day and it happens to be every Sunday, first Sunday

of July or something like that. Well, I guess maybe we should just get rid of 4th of July altogether. It's not my fave. Okay. Well, next year it's on Thursday. Sorry to say. Also, unfortunately, although people could take Friday off of work, I guess. People tend to do that in

summers. We'll have to record on Wednesday. I'm already thinking ahead. Let's cross that bridge when we get to it. I'm going to be celebrating all week. But right now, let's talk about National Umbrella Cover Day. Oh, good. Okay. This I will be taking off for as well.

I don't have much to say about this weird holiday. I inherited an umbrella with the house when I moved in. The previous owner was like, do you want to buy this table and umbrella set for like two grand? Wait, table and umbrella set? Yeah, like a beautiful restoration hardware table and this gorgeous, wonderful, high-quality umbrella. But it was a package deal?

She was offering it to me, and I was like, no, you've got all my money already. I can't afford it. And she was like, well, it's too heavy to move, so I'm going to leave it for you. And you can pay me when you can. And I was like, cool. I'm not going to pay you for it.

But I'm happy to let it sit right where it is. So I have this. I inherited this umbrella. But I can't get the cover on it. Anyway, that was a lot of story for just that. Like a patio umbrella? Not like a rain umbrella. No.

I thought we were talking about patio furniture i see that now but now i see that that's not what it is at all but why would you put a cover over your normal umbrella who does that are you guys taking your umbrellas and putting them into a little cover when you store it that's what this holiday is all about oh wow, wow. Is those covers. Covers for rain umbrellas? Should I cut all of that? No. I think it's interesting because obviously patio table umbrellas have covers,

and I think that counts because this day covers all kinds of umbrella covers. It's all interesting, yeah. It is interesting how both of your brains went to one place and mine went to another.

Well, you just had a recent experience with an umbrella and an umbrella cover, right? Well, also, I don't know anybody who puts their umbrellas back in that little case it comes in. Sure. Do you? Jonathan, you're the person that might. Small umbrellas. Wait, why would I? Because you're organized.

That's true. Large umbrellas, no. Small umbrellas, yes. I put back you're organized. That's true. Large umbrellas, no. Small umbrellas, yes. I put back in the cover. Same. Wow. Why? Small umbrellas, yeah.

Because that's what it's for. That's what it comes in. You can put it in a little sleeve. It's also got a little strap you can just wrap around it. Yeah, you do the strap in order to fit it into the umbrella cover. You got to wrap it tight and then you put it in. Why? Why?

It's a little slip where it goes. Storage. I do need to mention that I emailed and connected with the creator of this holiday. Wow. Yes. I had a hard time finding the origin of National Umbrella Cover Day. I found it on a few different websites, and one of them linked to something called the Umbrella Cover Museum on Peaks Island, Maine, and their website did not mention this holiday, but it did mention it.

A museum full of everyone's discarded umbrella covers because no one uses them. Well, they set the world record for most umbrella covers in a single location on July 7th, 2012. And I thought, well, July 7th, that's very close to July 6th. So I emailed Nancy Three Hoffman, who is the founder and creator of the Umbrella Cover Museum, and she did confirm that she created the holiday by emailing daysoftheyear.com since they had the most official seeming set of days. And they agreed to create the holiday. I do not why July 6th instead of July 7th was selected I decided to you know based on prior experience

leave the creator of the holiday alone sure sure yeah I don't want to but she was delightful and nice and if you're in Portland Maine and you want to take the ferry to Peaks Island you should go to the umbrella cover museum there cute find all those discarded umbrella covers at

that museum. Maybe it's on the... I'm sorry. Is her middle name three? Yes. The number three. Her middle name is the number or her middle initial

is the number three. No follow-up questions. Again, yeah, I didn't get into it. That's fine. I think maybe they chose July 6th, probably, because they didn't want to step on the toes of July 7th holiday,

which we're now getting into, which is... National Day of Rock and Roll. Oh, yeah. I'd say every day is National Day of Rock and Roll. You would say that. I don't have much to say about this holiday. No comment. Go rock and Roll. You would say that. I don't have much to say about this holiday. No comment. Go rock and roll.

Music's good. Okay, there is something we have to say about this holiday. I'm sorry. Oh, okay. I was researching this. There is a mini music festival taking place on July 7th

at Backstage Bar and Billiards to celebrate National Day of Rock and Roll. This day was created by a woman named Christina Alexander in 2020. I don't know why, but on the website for the mini event, she wrote July 7th is the designated National Day for Rock and Roll. I bought the rights to it on a crazy impulse in 2020 with no explanation about what it means to buy the rights to a holiday yeah wait do we owe people money for saying national day of rock and roll i don't know dang we'll cut this out oh my

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welcome back happy national day of taking ad breaks to you and yours we celebrate it wholeheartedly every thursday and friday thursday we record friday you listen um so we had a new video come out this week we're gonna start uh probably like talking about them semi-regularly maybe every week um is like reacting to the reaction to the video any sort of uh critiques or suggestions or nice things people say maybe a mean thing somebody says but just sort of uh engaging with feedback. Maybe we left something out. Maybe we put something in that didn't need to be there and so on and so forth. This week is Katie Stoll's first episode hosting without a warm bow,

without a Cody. And Katie, you've been working on this episode for a long time. Yeah. And do you, how do you feel about it it turned out great i feel uh pretty good about it i have felt sick about it for a long time i know um nervous um looking for excuses to pass the buck down the past the i don't know delay its release xyz all that um so i'm glad that it's out i'm um i'm pretty touched by the response uh i definitely was expecting a lot of pushback

because if you guys haven't seen the video, this is about our cultural obsession with weight and how we equate your weight to your health. And all the bullshit reasons why and how social media affects it and how it leads to all sorts of health consequences for all of us. It leads to all sorts of health consequences for all of us. And I was really blown away by the amount of people sharing their stories in the comments section. It felt like shockingly positive. And honestly, I've spent a lot of yesterday crying reading your stories. So thank you to everybody who's reached out and shared. It feels pretty good to have it done um there it's interesting uh this script originally was like 32 pages uh which is on par with our jordan peterson style and is absolutely unacceptable for my first video and we you know i think we got it down to a good place but there is absolutely unacceptable for my first video. And I think we got it down to a good place,

but there is so much for this topic. There are so many different avenues and things to unpack. And so I encourage you all to keep looking into it, keep for yourself and doing your own research because there's a lot to learn. What's one thing that got cut that you wished there had been room for? I think a lot of the cuts are probably for the best or definitely for the best because it's in a good place.

But there's one thing that I did not put back in or put in, which was a couple months ago, in or put in, which was a couple months ago, Megan Fox came forward sharing that she has struggled with body dysmorphia for her entire life. And which is surprising, of course, probably for people, because she is an incredibly beautiful person. And the pushback online was really disgusting. It was all, oh, please give me a fucking break. She's incredibly privileged and hot and she just wants attention, X, Y, Z. The whole point is that you can be shocked and surprised by how this affects everybody,

that you can't look at somebody at the surface and know what they're going through or know how this stuff has affected them. So that was something that I had wanted to include. But yeah, I didn't. I mean, yeah, there's always,

there's only so much you can fit in, especially yeah. Big, like broader topics. Well, there's, there's also just certain things that, you know, you know, there are lots of different comments that people had of like, you know, broader topics. Well, there's, there's also just certain things that, you know, you know, there are lots of different comments that people had, like, I hope you say, this factor, this study, or

this is actually what's important for nutrition. And ultimately, I didn't want to be giving any kind of advice, because everybody's bodies work differently and have different needs. So there was like a segment about that specifically. But again, this isn't about nutrition advice. This isn't about any of that. This is about, you know, taking a step back from feeling the need to be like other people. I think people would be surprised at how frequently things get cut,

either because it breaks up the pacing of what we have in the show, or this is a really fun tangent, but it's part of a different episode, or that sometimes things like that get incorporated into other episodes. It's not like these scripts get slashed apart shortly before shooting,

but there are often things that are like the writer's baby that it's like, um, it just doesn't fit in here for, uh, whatever. Yeah. It can be tough, uh, sometimes to, yeah, get rid of stuff that like, maybe it wasn't like the impetus for the episode, but like something that was like, you're really focused on, like, I really want to say this and yet breaks up the pacing or like we had, um, even the AI episode we did recently uh there was an

entire section a few pages on like self-driving cars um and we were just like it doesn't there's other stuff this episode's about and originally we were like oh yeah we'll do like a self-driving car section um and now it's going to be a whole other episode um yeah exactly um yeah can't fit everything in in an hour and 10 minutes you know and i didn't want to make it a three-hour video we're open to it as you know just we could just do three videos with slightly different theses okay we should talk about the news news news what's News. News. News. News. What's going on in it? Lots, turns out. Oh. And today we're going to start off by talking about how, woof, it's hot out there, huh,

folks? Yikes. This is torture. Turning up the dial in that climate change situation. Monday was the hottest day ever recorded on earth y'all until tuesday that is poor monday it had such a bright future things are definitely a change in uh jonathan do you want to walk us through some of these yeah things definitely seem to be escalating. And I want to couch this in the knowledge that it's also an El Nino year. Sure. to a point where they will be permanently now. So you already mentioned that several days broke

the hottest day on record days, unofficially, of course. June 2023 was the hottest month on record, going back either decades or over 100 years, depending on the record you're looking at. Global sea ice has dropped by more than a million square kilometers below the previous low, which I'm told is a lot of square kilometers. It's the worst Canadian wildfire season on record. The number of wet bulb temperature days across the U.S. are going up, and the sunbelt in particular from Texas to Florida, it looks like summers there could get very, very rough for the foreseeable future, instigating a lot of adaptation. And the World Health Organization says that 1.4 million

deaths per year in Europe can be attributed to climate change and pollution. Does everyone have houses they can go into with AC? No. They do not. Did we fix that oh no we can't fix that we're we're cooked folks uh i i somebody was sharing this article about uh hottest day in decades and maybe centuries and uh the global the global temperature average was 62.9 degrees fahrenheit and there were just so many people commenting like but it was what are you talking about it was like 70 in florida or like what do you mean it was like 58 here and it's just uh i just worry about scientific literacy and general

literacy and just uh like and who's like being like honest and who's like a bot and it's just it's impossible anymore and it just bums me out to see uh people like we're getting we're getting gonna get another phase of the well it's actually like extremely cold take that global warming stuff and it's just very obnoxious oh yeah i got a lot of that over the window i can tell you really where you are i mean not a lot of it uh that actually seems to be something there's plenty of people that everyone knows understands that the climate is changing i think that the main argument is that the climate right now that i'm hearing is the climate's always changing. It's always changed. So, and it's wild.

To what degree? For what reasons? Like what? Oh God, that's frustrating. And so I, it is frustrating. But sure, if you want to say that, what I want people to agree with is that we should do something,

that we should be investing in this. But I want people to be investing in infrastructure. I want us to be solving some social problems so that we are prepared when disasters come. And you would think that that could be seen as job creation. You would think that that could be seen as an opportunity to strengthen America. There's so many different ways you can look at this problem. I just need you to do it.

But it is frustrating. Yeah. Do you get any of that? It ebbs and flows because also there's this um, this sort of climate change denial path sort of thing and like you're saying like well they're saying like climate always changes you know five years ago it's like it's not changing or like it is or it's not but if it was it's okay and then well it's actually uh it's changing but it's not our fault. And like, there are all these sort of steps of pulling, you know, a good portion of the country to just accepting that it's happening. Do you get, have you heard anybody make the claim, because I see this a lot again nowadays, a lot of blue check accounts,

that scientists made up the term climate change because of like weather changing. We're like, Oh, well it's cold. So the term global warming wasn't working for them. So they changed it to climate change because I haven't had that. But to be honest, I haven't had that many in depth conversations about it.

Cause I think that that's something probably because that's a more tenuous argument for them at this point. You know, I, it's more like eye rolling and it was a quite, but I'll find out. I'll get, Oh,

just, I'm just curious because I see it online a lot and it's one of the easiest things in the world to debunk aside from the fact that like they've scientists talked about climate change for decades and decades and decades and use that term. But it was like in the zeitgeist it was a choice by the republican party after a focus group by frank lutz uh who found out well global warming is like scary to people so we should use climate change so it doesn't seem as scary um so we don't do anything about it um and i've never seen somebody hear that information

and react to it because they're just going to ignore it on Twitter. And I'm just curious what that reaction would be. I'm excited too. I'm excited for you. I've heard this story before. We've talked about this before. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I certainly will be bringing that out at the appropriate time. I'm sure which will present itself this summer. Please do. Apologies to our audience I've definitely brought that up before and I will continue to bring it up forever it's frustrating because we thought that at a certain point

once things became undeniable we'll all get on the same page once it's too late and now we're confronting the fact that we won't all get on the same page like we're going to be in an era we already are in an era but it's going to be more of an era of climate influenced mass migration and then that's going to be the political issue of all of these you know we're seeing it in europe of people complaining about oh we're being invaded and all this stuff and we just we skip the conversation about climate change or doing anything about it

and get right to the racism. And that's going to be the next 30 years. Meanwhile, there are tens of millions of people living in, you know, sun-scorched places that are going to become very hard to inhabit. And we're going to be right to adaptation in Texas, in Louisiana, without any acknowledgement that, not that it would help, right? Not that it would help to have it acknowledged of who was right the entire time.

Right, right. Well, I mean, it might to a degree because, well, it won't. But like, you know, the idea of being like, well, yeah, we're right. So maybe like listen to like now, like what we do we do now right it would help if an inspired action right but it's yeah it's gonna skip the actually talking about the problem part and kind of go straight to like yes the racism and also just the like well it's happening so we can't so what are we gonna do like they're already sort of in that mode of like yeah maybe it, maybe it's happening, but, like, there's nothing to be done, and we won't mitigate it because it's already, like, it's already happened. And then it's interesting, the mass migration thing, too, because it's one of those things where, like, yeah, look at all the, like, in other areas of mass migration that we also demonize and like reject.

And like we're, we're good, really good at like causing problems in other parts of the world and then rejecting people from entering our country when they're fleeing the problems that we created. And climate change is just another one of those. It's interesting. entering our country when they're fleeing the problems that we created um and uh climate change is just another one of those it's interesting it's not good or funny or anything it's just like oh yeah we it's not the first time uh we like doing that this was the first week

when i saw scientists talk legitimately about, well, it looks like we're not ending our reliance on fossil fuels. That's just not happening. So maybe this sunshade in space is going to be something that helps. Maybe solar radiation management. It's gotten to that point where we're looking at ideas that once would have been considered science fiction, and now we talked about this earlier this week with Dave,

like, well, hopefully one of these things can bail us out. And I saw a Newsmax clip that was like, Biden wants to block out the sun now, and it just was so deflating. Like, we're just going to do this, even if scientists figure something out, something that saves all of our necks. It does feel like people, the powers that be, the corporations that run our country know what's up.

They don't care. Right now, ratings, it's so tribal. Everything's tribal. Burn it to the ground and make as much money as possible. I always come back to that clip of, it's like the pilot of Succession. Alan Ruck's character is talking to a kid, holding up a bottle of water, saying,

sweetie, this is going to be the future. Everybody's going to want this, so we have it. Whatever it is. Explaining, charging money for water, and you're like, yeah, they know. Oh, yeah, they all know. Yeah, they're making their little bunkers. But meanwhile, people at home, that's what's frustrating.

So many people that watch Fox News or Newsmax and all these places, they want to be anti-establishment, feel like you can't trust. What they do trust is completely wrong. I'm preaching to the choir here. It's like you don't understand that you're spouting off propaganda just like you think the left is. Oh, yeah. It's maybe not every case, but usually the case where it's like,

yeah, I'm so anti-establishment, and I climate change is fake and everything the companies are doing like we yeah it's just it's a funny mix of like helping companies that are destroying the planet um but posturing you're helping them yeah elon has gone not so far as to say like i, I don't believe in climate change anymore. He's done his, like, I actually think that the population crisis is a bigger deal than climate change. He's just downplaying what used to be his thing. He's getting closer and closer. It's interesting to watch. I wonder if he'll ever actually, like, say it or if he'll just, like, dance around it.

Because I feel like there's a lot of opinions he has that are sort of based on like, will the blue checks still like me? Like, will I have an audience that likes me still? Testing it out. Yeah, because he was so all in on climate change being a thing that should be concerned about. That's literally why he has a couple of his companies. And now just sort of like slowly getting closer to being like, actually, it's no big deal, and maybe not happening.

Maybe we shouldn't do anything. I don't know. It feels very transparent, his transition, how he's going about. I will say that I think that a lot of average citizens maybe just don't want to feel guilty about living their life, maybe just don't feel to feel guilty about living their life maybe just don't feel powerless and will accept it and they hear like this might not be so bad and they're like yes great i want to trust that you know i think that it's been a lot well so like a lot of campaigning

of like on the idea that it is on an individual level and people you shouldn't you shouldn't feel guilty about living your life unless you're like a fucking billionaire and your life is destroying the planet um and exploiting people and uh siphoning off resources uh for your massive horde of wealth um but everyday people have been sort of conditioned to feel like they have to feel guilty and so work you know our brains work really hard to reject those kind of feelings and people definitely feel powerless every news organization in the country knows that you have to report on climate stuff that's happening and they also know that it's a ratings killer so So we've got to get away from it. We have to talk about it because it's really bad and it's happening,

but we can't stay on it because people tune out. Because it's like, even here, it's like, okay, what do you want us to do? We talk about this every so often. And media organizations have to think of ways to keep people engaged, right? So the line goes up. Right. Exactly. But, you know.

And there's a lot of spinning wheels and stuff. Like, you know, like the global warming climate change little factoids. Like, yeah, talk about, it's a lot of talking in circles and just sort of commiserating. Like, yeah, it's awful, right? Yeah. Fast apocalypse, great for ratings. Slow apocalypse, terrible. Yeah. Very, very, very bad.

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Please stop. No. What's going on in the news? French? We talk about the... Ah, The French! Vintage? Dated? The news has always been admired for its excellence.

Jonathan's going to walk us through this story. I just wanted to start by saying, I wanted to talk... There's lots of reasons we can talk about this and the parallels of the United States, but I've been so frustrated with the online discourse around this. So frustrated by what Twitter blue checks are saying and what's rising to the surface between what is actually happening.

So Jonathan, what's actually happening? We'll get to that. Yeah, we, yeah, we will. Our listeners don't know what we're talking about.

Cause all I did was say, ah, the French. So maybe, maybe, uh, tuned in folks. We'll know what that, yeah. Yeah, we will. Our listeners don't know what we're talking about because all I did was say, ah, the French. So maybe tuned in folks will know what we're getting to. So there have been mass protests going on in France after a 17-year-old was shot and killed by a police officer in a suburb of Paris on June 27th. You know, this is a shooting that everyone agrees was horrible.

I'm sure there are some people online defending it, but President Emmanuel Macron said it was inexcusable and unforgivable. The police initially said the driver of the vehicle was in a position to run over police, but video then spread on social media showing that the vehicle being pursued was not in a position to threaten officers. Nevertheless, the protests have been intense. There have been 45,000 French police deployed to quell the protests. They've arrested more than 2,000 people, and 30% of all the protesters are under the age of 18. While there has been some looting and fires reported on public roads, there have also been a lot of complete fabrications spreading on social media, likely in the hopes that it will make the protest movement seem like the problem and not the police. And if you're on social media, any platform,

you've probably seen some of these. There's a blue check account on Twitter called I am yes, you are no. They've shared a video of a fire or a photo of a fire near the Eiffel Tower with the caption France is no longer France. But that photo comes from seven years ago when people were trying to get into a closed off viewing area of the Euro 2016 soccer final. There's been footage from the fate of the furious of cars flying off a car park that people have said are from the current protests. have said are from the current protests. There's been a truly staggering amount of misinformation that has been hard to keep up with. And the intent, of course, is to demonize protesters, and particularly people of color. In France, the teenager killed was of a French person of Algerian descent. And in France, young men perceived to be black or Arab are 20 times as likely as their peers to be stopped by police. hatred about being spewed and the blame being cast on migrants and you know and just absolute racist bullshit um an app very very very pushback from accounts underneath it like i mean it's just

it's just so misrepresenting what's happening and what the problem or what's the issue. There's barely any – anyway, go ahead, Cody. Oh, I mean, yeah, I don't disagree. I think it's harder now to get accurate information, and it's harder to push back on inaccurate information. That soccer photo or video you mentioned, it has a community note on it now that explains what it's from. But I assume that that community note showed up like 24 hours after the tweet got, you know, 100,000, 100,000 views and stuff like it takes a long time. And then you look at the top replies of this blue-checked I am yes, you are no account. Top replies, all blue checks.

My whole life I kept saying we can't let America turn into Europe. Because look, another person, kind of interesting. They invaded a country without a single tank. It's just all this stuff. It's like people agreeing. Yeah. They're like, yeah, this is definitely what happened. And look how bad it is. But there's also one um there's one person that was after a soccer game not now

but could happen there we are very helpful um this community note added context yeah crypto account of course so yeah it's just frustrating and absurd. Because also, so many of these accounts, like, know that it's dishonest. Right. And even, so, like, this account embedded the video from another person's tweet. Paris, Republic Square, France has fallen. That's what I was going to say. France has fallen uh that's what i was gonna say france has fallen was just trending for a couple days yeah um and i think i feel like this person this original poster

knows that it's full of shit because they ripped the video from somewhere they got the video from somewhere um it it's not it because they uploaded it but then the tweet that we're talking about embedded this video. So I feel like it's just like these credulous blue checks, like, oh, I saw a video, it's this. And then they help boost it even more because again, money reasons. So it's just a hell hole.

Yeah, it sure is. But boy, this has been said before, but I'll say it again. France sure knows how to do it, right? Oh, the French. Oh, the French. Oh, the French. It does feel like, I know there are people in the United States right now, in Atlanta specifically, taking to the streets with intense action.

It does feel like France has the energy to do this every few months, and we do not. Oh, yeah. They go for it. They follow through. Yeah, there were huge protests over Macron raising the retirement age. And it feels like the United States,

for whatever reason, needs like five to ten years of decompression time. Because some truly awful police killings have happened in this country since George Floyd. And I'm not even criticizing. I haven't been out in the streets since the summer of 2020. It just feels like there's this collective exhaustion. The difference between us and them i like there is something baked into french culture at this point i think they there's people i can speak to this much more articulately than me but it they do it they show up they are very um forceful

with their you know with their voices. You would think that that would also be a part of the American ideology. You would think that we also would want to protect our freedoms and our democracy and our rights, but it's hard to get people. Well, we do. We just disagree on what those things mean, right? There's no consensus anymore about what any of these words mean or what represents freedom. So, you know, half the country protests and the other half is like, you idiots, you don't believe in anything.

And the other half protests for something else. And the other half is like, what are you doing? I would have to assume that that's also true in France. That there are different perspectives. I would have to assume that that's also true in France. Sure. That there are different perspectives, but yeah. I do think the French have a social safety net that allows them the mental space to care about things. Again, that's not an excuse,

but I think 35-hour work weeks probably help you have the capacity to get really passionate about your society and want to take action. And there is a collective exhaustion in this country because of how the cost of living, how much everyone works. Everyone wants things to be different, but...

Really good point. I mean, if you're not worried about losing your health care also. Ah, the news. Vintage? Dated? Look, it's impossible to really keep up with current events. It's not true. It's very possible.

There are resources. It's difficult on Twitter, though? It's difficult on Twitter specifically. And it's been like that for a while. And we've talked about it before and it's just, it's just something I think we have to accept of like, you know, it used to be like a really good source of information and like knowing like, Oh, this person is who they say they are. Look at this journalist is on, they're on the ground and I

know who they are. Um, I think those days are just gone and I don't think there's going to be a solid replacement necessarily, at least for a long time, like everybody is. And that's just a bummer, I'll just say. They're all in a cage match right now. It's going to figure itself out. But kind of first this Titanic has to finish sinking. Well, yeah. So it's not gone.

It's still there. It's still there every day. But it's not like it's like it's not gone it's still there still there every day but it's just it's lost all of its juice um and literally it's running out of fumes and eight dollar check marks um to keep the lights on here we are because they're not paying their bills to keep the lights on and uh exactly you're reaching your fucking limit of tweets you get we should talk about what's been going on twitter's wild weekend right to give some context yeah twitter's on an on a yeah tell us catch us up jonathan well the two big things that happened late last week and over the weekend is twitter began to block unregistered users from seeing tweets and the other thing was that people who were logged in were limited in the number of tweets they were allowed to see each day and elon musk's official reason for this was

to address quote extreme levels of data scraping and system manipulation. The real reason was almost certainly the fact that Twitter did not pay its Google Cloud bill and had trouble keeping its infrastructure up and had to limit people literally using the website. Wow, what an interesting timeline. Did you guys exceed your rate limit? I did briefly, but then they upped it again uh you can have some of mine i'm barely using it that's okay i don't want it it's uh it's the it's one of those tales as old as time where he makes a claim and then it's very

obvious what the real reason is and then just moving on just the liar lying more and more okay so he began to block users then what happened well they quietly reversed that um right days later uh there's no longer the login requirement i also i just find it it's certainly frustrating um this guy sucks so much uh he doesn't it's there's this sort of promise of a figure like him and a promise that he uh wanted people to buy into one that he wanted to present himself as obviously there's like the tony stark stuff but there's also this sort of like uh carl sagan aspect to him that he wants a little bit, and this idea of hope and expanding consciousness

and the possibilities of the future. He even says stuff like, I don't believe in patents because it stalls progress and innovation. His belief in open AI like open source stuff and this sort of like philosophy pretending like he loves like sci-fi and like star trek right um and there's that one book series i forget what it's called that he has claimed that he likes and i can't think of it i'm sorry listeners um but he has this like i like what the future the possibility of the future um and i it's just there's such a gross

tension there because the guy who's saying like oh we can get to we can get to a star trek future oh you mean like luxury space communism that's based on exploration and like money is stupid to them? You're going to charge people $8 to have a voice on your platform and not let people access it unless they like... It's just this weird gatekeeping

to technology and products that yeah, I get it. He owns a business and stuff and he's a capitalist and all that sort of thing but like don't you also want to pretend that you believe that those things are bad it's just this this tension of like the things he claims to believe in versus i'm actually one of the richest people on the planet and you have to pay to use my thing and if you don't you can't use it and also all the information here is inaccessible

to you actually unless you pay me thousands of dollars you can't make a fun little bot that entertains people without paying me like two thousand grand a month or two thousand dollars a month or something like that and it's just this uh this constant tension with him specifically about what he wants to present

himself as and what he wants people to see himself as and it's just not there he doesn't actually believe it or do it and it sucks and i hate it um because space is cool and like the future is possible there's so many possibilities um but he doesn't actually want to live there he wants to rule that place he wants to be king of mars it would just be easier if this wasn't the app that journalists used that the media didn't use to catch up on things and relay information if If this was just debacle after debacle at Snapchat, it would affect people, sure. A lot of people would be really upset about it.

But it wouldn't affect the information architecture of our country. Yeah, right. And I think we talked about this a little before. But it's before we recorded. But there's also obviously this aspect of like he's got very thin skin because he's a billionaire all billionaires have very thin skin they're very vindictive and spiteful uh child child babies is what they are

um and so he also has over the years of people actually doing journalism on him and his companies and his and the structure of his companies and the racism and harassment, all these things, um, and his companies. And so he also has this sort of, uh, contempt for just like journalism that doesn't praise him and go after his

perceived enemies. Um, so it almost, it's just like this, it's, it's that coupled with like john that you're saying like if it wasn't just destroying this thing that was working okay for what it was it was it was it had problems but i could tell what was going on for the most part sifting through it and it just seems like part of it is based on spite.

It's like he's kind of happy that he's destroying this thing because people on Twitter don't like him and made him mad and made him sad. Well, ultimately, this project, his little Twitter project can fail and he'll still be an exceptionally wealthy person. He'll be protected. He'll be protected. He'll be whatever.

Maybe it's making way for his future stuff. Maybe it's making, maybe that loss helps him. I don't know, but he doesn't give a shit. Yeah. And just every step of the way, um,

he's Twitter is apparently, uh, threatening to sue, uh, threads or meta or Facebook or whatever the fuck you want to call it because they made a Twitter clone it's just Twitter

which, you know, if they wanted to make Twitter they should have not made it and just paid 44 billion dollars for it it's so funny yes, legally he owns it, he paid the money for it but this idea that Twitter's mine actually, and I made the great app that

everybody loves everybody loves twitter and being on twitter because of me it's he always does this like you're i can't believe you're complaining about twitter on twitter my app buddy you paid billions of dollars for it it's not like yes it's yours again legally it's yours but like you didn't do it there's nothing about Twitter that's good now. I own my house. I didn't make my house. Exactly. And again, it's like this long history that he has of just like, this is mine, actually.

I did it, actually. Which again, sort of like laughs in the face of his purported philosophy, whatever. So Meta made a very obvious Twitter clone. whatever um so meta made a very obvious twitter clone um and uh a lot of twitter clones out there um because it was at one point a pretty decent app um and now they're threatening to sue twitter's threatening to sue meta but part of it is because they allegedly like poached or stole employees to copy twitter and this guy fucking sucks so bad buddy you fired everybody you fired everybody and then mocked them for being upset that they're fired and mocked everybody for saying it was bad that you fired everybody your app's gonna break and they should go make another app that's like your app

this was all laid out you tweeted about it constantly you laughed in their faces It was bad that you fired everybody and your app's going to break and they should go make another app that's like your app. This was all laid out. You tweeted about it constantly. You laughed in their faces. You fired them all. So, of course, they're going to go do this. It's so maddening to see like you poached my employees. No, you fired them all and told them to go fuck themselves. Fuck themselves.

You fired them all knowing that right now everybody is making their competition to you because you fire because of all the things you know what's happening. If the rest of us could have seen this coming, how could you not? He just does not give a single fuck about anybody. And it's so obvious, like even on like we did a Tucker, and he's like, we may have to ask these people, some people to come back, because I shouldn't have fired everybody. Yeah, no shit. You shouldn't have fired everybody.

You should have been like, oh, whoops, instead of laughing about it constantly. Fucking asshole. Fucking hate him so much. It is the Spite app, and it's very funny. Katie, what you were saying is right. He thinks of it as his house so anything bad you say about it you're saying it about him and his house it's like it's as if you invited us all over

and you were like hey check out take a look at this decoration i put up and everyone was like this sucks we hate this and like that would be very rude and that's what he thinks every criticism on twitter is is being that the rudeness that that would be to you that's what he thinks every criticism on Twitter is, is being that the rudeness that that would be to you. That's what people are being to him by criticizing his stupid app on his stupid app. Exactly. He's trying like he's going to rename it. You're going to rename the app X eventually. It's going to be called X on your phone.

You're going to download. You're going to be tweeting on X. Just go make that fucking idiot. On that note, it is time for us to wrap this up for the day. But what fun we've had. What fun we've had. Happy Umbrella Day or whatever.

But what fun we've had. Happy Umbrella Cover Day. Or whatever. However you interpret it. However you choose to interpret it. Keep on being cool. Keep on being real. Keep on being real. Keep on being cool. Keep on being real. Keep on being real. Keep on keeping on.

Keep on and chive on. Shut up, Cody. Sorry. Keep calm. Chive on. You know what? We love you very much. Much.